Media Misses Connections
When police arrived at a dangerously overcrowded club in Garfield Park early Friday, they found utter pandemonium that included a fight, two car crashes and a man shooting wildly into the air.
Police were called about 1 a.m. to Brick’s Sports Bar and Grill, 4422 W. Madison St., after a patron called to complain of dangerous overcrowding, [...]. When officers arrived they were not allowed inside and the doors were locked, trapping all the patrons inside.
Someone eventually got the doors open and patrons streamed out, [...]. Police counted 273 people leaving the 99-person-capacity club, but had to stop their count because a man was firing shots in a parking lot across the street.
- At the same time, two women were fighting and one got in her car and tried to leave, [...]. Several patrons tried to stop her, resulting in her crashing into several parked cars and hitting one patron, who was taken to Stroger Hospital in good condition.
Pretty cut and dried - out of control club, drunks and guns. Then we opened our e-mail:
- SCC,
This "club" has been a big problem for a while now. It's been opened under a bunch of different names and has never had a club license. 011 shut it down a few weeks ago with another few hundred people and no licenses.
The trouble is 28th Ward Alderman Jason Ervin is connected to the club - you remember Ervin? The son of retired commander Claudell. The owner keeps dropping his name. Last time she got locked up, Ervin was on the phone with the Watch Commander within the hour. Ervin even had his inauguration party at this club. The patrons love to threaten the police, too. When 011 shut it down a month ago, the fine citizens told the officers that "This is why you burying your own, you fucking with the wrong people."
How long until there is an E2 type disaster at this club? They keep opening and flouting the licensing board because Ervin is their clout.
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76 Comments:
Fuck it! 19P every call you get there...let them kill each other!
"Bulldoze the building? Or bring the heat on Ervin".
I suggest bulldozing or catching it afire the next time it's filled at four times the allowed capacity.
Is hoping for an E2 repeat a bad thing?
Sounds like the old ET lounge in 007 at 72nd pl and Racine. The city finally did come in and bolt the doors closed. Of course all it took was three people getting shot for the city to act.
The next question is, what is Ervin's relationship to the liquor commissioner?
Two doors down from Brick's Casket Company. We drop 'em AND box 'em.
Let an E2 type disaster happen. Show up and calmly tell everyone that fire is on the way. In the meantime let them crush, stab, shoot and whatever else they want to do to each other.
Sheeeit!
Bulldoze is about right...
Then salt the shit out of the ground so even weeds won't grow.
Speaking of pillar of salt and all that... How's our psuedo man of the quasi-cloth Claudell doing these days anyway?
Ya ol' grinning, empty-eyed skull with a stingy mustache you...
He was over-promoted working the park car at Columbus Park...
A few of the old 011 family members spotted him a couple years ago trying to be security at the United Center and looking crazy...
A lot of "rev'runs" and alderfools owe ol' Claudell a solid for constantly running interference whenever their bad-assed little bastards got lagged by The Police for UUW, PCS, PSMV or dammit, the ghetto trifecta...
Who can forget the sight of Coppers typing up GOCRs with bandages while family members of the offender(s) were having coffee and yukking it up in his office?
That might explain why Coppers weren't given shit for recognition on his watch when A LOT of dynamite Policing was (and still is) being done in 011.
What the hell ever happened to those boxes of awards and commendations found in the D/C's bathroom when he finally retired?
Oh well... it looks like baby boy is continuing the proud family tradition.
Stay safe and watch each other's backs boys & girls!
well maybe try have inspectors come and cite the building for "voilations"
then try turning off the water in the street:) no water no toilets
posibly no heat ehtier( boiler)
if there is enough complaints in the mayors ear it will get shut down
Mice with matches....... Just sayin......
Why bother.
When E2 happens the end result will be the same.
The blame will be placed on the police.
Because there's no way you can hold clout heavy MINORITY business men accountable.
Just like E2 overpacked the place locked the emergency exits...yet it was CPD's fault.
There are a ton of nightclubs and businesses in this city operating with some type of criminal activity that continue to remain open - all thanks to city hall.
The police are always hitting these type of places and making arrests/ANOVS, whether it be for drugs, alcohol, prositution, gangs, etc - or some type of license violation.
We all know of locations with repeat violations and arrests, every week or every month. And how many of these places are ever closed down permanently - none. Why? City hall keeps these places open for the revenue. A slap on the wrist and a fine = thats all that happens. But who gets blamed when shit hits the fan - we do.
If Chicago had true investigative medias, they would pull the records of many of these repeat violator locations and find a "straw" owner, who is always the connection to why this corrupt city lets the place remain open.
Hard to believe one of our upstanding Ghetto Alderfools might be on the "take". This place could be another E2 in the making. Rev. Jesse Jackson had his greasy greedy prints all over that one. He is the one who always greased the way for that club to operate. When the shit hit the fan after the fiasco Jackson's name came up and then went cold. Only in Chicago.
We will have to do what we normally do...pick up the pieces and clean up the mess, then listen to the media blame us for the blameless not following the various laws and codes It's not going to change anytime soon. Just keep watching each others backs and go home safe.
Excellent idea !!!!
"dynamite Policing"
Sounds like Bob's Malibu lounge. That was twenty years ago in 007, never mind , just having a senior moment.
open more clubs in the ghetto so that they dont come downtown..
And ANOTHER unlicensed 'social club' bites the dust!
Cops Shut Down West Side Club
Chicago Police shut down a party early Saturday morning after getting a report of a person with a gun and arriving to find an unlicensed “social club” called Cash Money on Deck.
The group – also known as CMOD – was described by police as a motorcycle and car club.
The club occupied the first floor of a building on the 3400 block of West Lake Street in the East Garfield Park neighborhood. Upstairs was a church.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/
breaking/chi-cops-shut-down-club-on-west-side-20120204,0,3821649.story
Anonymous said:
"Because there's no way you can hold clout heavy MINORITY business men accountable."
You can't hold ANY clout heavy businessman accountable in this town dumbass.
How about bulldoze it when Baby Ervin is inside. He's a rat and so was his father...
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/investigative/jason-ervin-maywood-officials-spend-thousands-on-village-credit-cards-lie-about-bills-20120203
Ole' jason seems very busy these days.
Damn, bring a welder and some steel plate over there. Get everyone out and weld that steel plate to the doors.
Totally on Liquid & License Commition!
Take Transit in 013. The amount of calls for service, fights, and aggr.batt. homicide incidents in and out is mind boggling. .!
Yet Barry Paddor enjoys free on everything.His Security Boys should be locked up for quite a few years.
Why no postings about this "ANONYMOUS" group? They are coming to Chicago! Be vigilant boys and girls.
The ET lounge was owned anc controlled by gangs and the commander knew it and refused to take enforcement action against the club. Theyhad two back rooms where they had parties, all unlicensed. The problem with private clubs in Chicago is the Dept. of Revenue does not want to take enforcement action and no one backs the police officers on the street. These private clubs are nothing but unlicensed and untaxed taverns who think they can operate 24/7. The state charter is just the start of what they need to do to become a true private club. Selling alcohol is only a small part of this. Yes, clout reins supreme. In west side precints where alcohol was banned by voters, the private clubs were everywhere and most protected by tact Lts., district commanders or alderman.
Heh...hey, let 'em pitch tents on the roof if there's no room inside.
We gotta reverend on the south side been doing it for 11 weeks now and
Rahm don't give a shit about that law why should he care about club licenses? We gotta get these speed trap cameras in -- there's no time for that piddly stuff.
They're probably right though you're messin' with the wrong people.
They got clout like that fire captain down by the river a few months back and stuff.
Here's what CPD needs to do to straighten this krap out.
Remember when we were in Afghanistan and they printed up decks of playing cards with the pictures of the wanted AL Queda leaders? We do that for the teflon people here..that's all. You know what I'm sayin?
Isn't that the location of the old "heads and Tails Showplace" from the '80's? I remember the same type of madness there back in the day, once a guy emptied his pistol into the crowd, big fat women packed in there like greasy sardines, everyone went running out of there screaming, it looked like one of those classic Godzilla movies. And, in the end.....no one was shot.
Good times.
But if we wait for the crisis to get bigger we can get a huge photo op out of the deal.
You are aware that election time is around the corner?
to many aldercreatures
no enforcement by police
district commanders
XO's should be in the field conducting License Investigations at all bars in the 7th and 11th districts after midmight ,0001hrs
Put all the alderfucks in there first.....then bulldoze it!!!
And how many of these places are ever closed down permanently - none. Why? City hall keeps these places open for the revenue. A slap on the wrist and a fine = thats all that happens. But who gets blamed when shit hits the fan - we do.
If Chicago had true investigative medias, they would pull the records of many of these repeat violator locations and find a "straw" owner, who is always the connection to why this corrupt city lets the place remain open.
2/04/2012 03:16:00 AM
Since these places are totally illegal, do you really think the City gets any revenue from them? Doubt it. The local politician? Probably. As far as the revenue, if the all the coppers it takes to close one of these hell holes wrote one parker each instead, we'd get more revenue.
You need more than a dozen coppers and some of the Licensing Unit expertise to close a place. WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER. More deaths on the way, guaranteed. Thanks Mr. Mayor!
I got a Greek uncle that can help.
Well fuck it...those in the ward voted for his ass and when another tragedy happens, then the report can come out who had the clout! I am sick and tired of the bullshit in this city because of dumb ass people voting for the same shits everytime.
Similar thing happened in 023 about 15 years ago. Sgt found an overcrowded gay bar and attempted to take action. He was transferred out by Cmdr JdL for messing with the wrong people. Meanwhile, the investigative media is busy with dirty sheets in motels and digging up useless stuff on old cases. The corruption filters down from the top.
Did the media miss something?
Or did police officers who choose not to mention anything to the reporter?
The reporter clearly asked about previous incidents.
An anonymous email or better, a signed email which you ask to be off-the-record, can do wonders. But it has to happen quick, since they're unlikely to revisit the story a day later.
......if the public only knew what the police know. One can only hope!Thanks SCC.
With any luck there will be a Great White type incident and everyone will burn. Then they can bury their own. Oh wait , these bust never have money to bury their own so they can just join the pile at the morgue.
......and what is Ervin earning in tax dollars? ...and he is making the city a better place how?
You newbies have no clue.
You want to cry to the alderman for help? You want to bring "heat" on him? How? From where shall this heat come? The media?
For all the TV news you guys watch, here's something you have yet to realize. No one gives a shit. No one cares if the ghetto alderman panders to the ghetto voters. No one cares if he hangs at da club, or fucks da bitches, or smokes da rock. No one outside his ward cares and everyone inside loves it.
The club causes you problems and you want to cause them problems. Here's how.
Make it clear to every piece of shit dealer and robber within four miles that it is open season on the club. When a club member is shot, chase away all witnesses, write a vague or otherwise completely incorrect case report, and never again ask anyone what happened. When a club member is robbed, write in your report that the victim was so intoxicated he could not provide a description of the offender. Stop all dealers within a block of the club, but never stop them as long as they deal directly in front of the club. DUI every patron who leaves.
Think outside the media box. Just because something is on TV or in the paper doesn't mean you got even. If you are going to get even, then get serious and really get even.
This city deserves to become the cesspool that it has devolved into. Just try to keep the $hit outta yours and my neighborhoods and lets retire and get the FU** OUT!
Perhaps Ms Mitchell also is also a supporter and brunch goer with this owner??
average suburban civilian white boy here with my little naive observation and thought > Chicago IS going to be Detroit in LESS than 20 yrs.
Employment occassionally takes me into & thru your cities South and West sides AND >>> it's MORE obvious to us outsiders than you who see the urban plight daily that the entire South and West sides are on verge of total collapse, yet supported ONLY by the yet revenue producing airports, loop and Nside.
Coming soon to a location near YOU in YOUR lifetime > The calamitious collapse of America's 'Second City'
"I suggest bulldozing or catching it afire the next time it's filled at four times the allowed capacity.
"Is hoping for an E2 repeat a bad thing?"
--2/04/2012 12:20:00 AM
I'd say that all you need is one angry patron who was 86ed --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire
--except that everyone is locked IN this joint, no matter what they're doing.
"...let them crush, stab, shoot and whatever else they want to do to each other."
--2/04/2012 12:52:00 AM
Yeah, how could you tell when the disaster started?
"Mice with matches....... Just sayin......"
--2/04/2012 01:19:00 AM
Oh, that's an old one. Hadn't heard that in years.
>pfft<
>snicker<
"Police were called about 1 a.m. to Brick’s Sports Bar and Grill, 4422 W. Madison St., after a patron called to complain of dangerous overcrowding..."
How many times...
Someone didn't get a free drink or something. They constantly drop dimes on each other, will call in "shots fired" when they get "disrespected" after puking on themselves, etc. It is bug-eyed, liquored-up hysteria in there.
One moment of quiet would trigger your mass panic for you.
"WHAT'S THAT?"
If they don't care and don't listen then youve exhaused all measures to keeping it safe then yes 19P... 011 has alot more going on then a few hundred gathering for a gangster party!!
problem is many clubs are connected and have a political spokesman behind it. Dont get caught in any negative issues with them cause once city hall calls down youre for sure gonna be on call back...
"well maybe try have inspectors come and cite the building for "voilations"
then try turning off the water in the street:) no water no toilets
posibly no heat ehtier( boiler)
if there is enough complaints in the mayors ear it will get shut down"
--2/04/2012 01:14:00 AM
Health inspector roof inspector wall inspector floor inspector sink inspector toilet inspector cat rat dog and squirrel inspector. Nothin prettier than a front door glued shut with about 18 Day-Glo city notices glommed all over it.
Quit botherin old people about "Mayor Daley's Dilapidated Garage Program" and go do some good.
Investigative reports in this city suck! They read blog all the time but if its crime-ridden areas, FUGET ABOUT IT! go to Wrigleyville or Lincoln Park and follow the police parking around the ballparks! Where is the SUPE and the REVS marching around shouting, "STOP THE VIOLENCE?" Englewood should be fenced in and one way in and out! Now thats one way of crime reduction! Passports, papers please!
"Chicago Police shut down a party early Saturday morning after getting a report of a person with a gun and arriving to find an unlicensed “social club” called Cash Money on Deck.
"The group – also known as CMOD – was described...as a motorcycle and car club.
"The club occupied the first floor of a building on the 3400 block of West Lake Street in the East Garfield Park neighborhood.
--2/04/2012 06:58:00 AM
"Upstairs was a church."
1. No connection between the two.
Of that we can be certain.
2. All this C.M.O.D. in the middle of the "Food Desert."
"Car Club" but can't find a supermarket anywhere.
"With any luck there will be a Great White type incident and everyone will burn. Then they can bury their own. Oh wait, these bust never have money to bury their own so they can just join the pile at the morgue."
--2/04/2012 11:09:00 AM
"Meet me at the mall, it's goin' down
Meet me at the club, it's goin' down."
Yeah, bustouts, shovin that CMOD over the bar top and actin the fool with gold fronts and a flash roll, but you're supposed to pick up the rest of the tab, literally cradle-to-grave.
What's wrong with this picture?
"Meanwhile, the investigative media is busy with dirty sheets in motels and digging up useless stuff on old cases."
--2/04/2012 10:59:00 AM
...and criticizing "police descriptions so vague as to be useless" (Whatshisname Krauser, WBBM radio) while they themselves censor the race of offenders -- someone might catch them otherwise -- and shut off online comments when they get anywhere near the truth.
In the meantime, while being useless -- big chase ended in 025 yesterday. Everyone went home safe, except for offenders who went to lockup.
Police capture 5 bank robbery suspects
February 3, 2012 (CHICAGO) (WLS)
"Chicago police captured five bank robbery suspects Friday with the help of a witness and a bystander.
"Some of the suspects may have also been involved in two other bank robberies.
"Friday's heist happened at the Chase Bank branch in the 4800 block of W. Irving Park Rd...."
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=8531084
The city and police department could care less if there is over-crowding anymore. Sure, they pretended to care after the E2 incident but now, nobody does. The safe limit for people in any club is usually a couple hundred people. Most clubs are packed to the gills and when the police are called, it's a quick 19-P.
Most club owners either know the commander or alderman or someone who knows someone. Another tragedy waiting to happen.
"...once a guy emptied his pistol into the crowd, big fat women packed in there like greasy sardines, everyone went running out of there screaming..."
--2/04/2012 09:07:00 AM
People act like this while endlessly complaining that someone should stop it.
Go figure.
Why no postings about this "ANONYMOUS" group? They are coming to Chicago! Be vigilant boys and girls.
Are you guys trying to throw us off, or what?
Do I know you? Are you Agent 87?
Signed - Another Anonymous
Earvin showed up to the 011th district Xmas party. I've seen him at caps meetings and the like. I wouldn't trust him to clean dog shit on the street. Not sure why the voters fall for his bullshit. He hasn't missed a meal lately.
The city since Daley II has made it impossible to have a LEGIT club.
People are going to go somewhere.
Where are the places now that years ago produced entertainers like the Cotton Club, or the Club Alabam which produced Jazz Greats such as Louis Armstrong and Cab Calloway.
These places had rules, they paid taxes and they kept the peace because they had an investment to protect. They attracted the gang element of that day, but a popular highline club was neutral territory so best behavior. And back in the day, they took care of the police, if you know what I mean.
Did the media miss something?
Or did police officers who choose not to mention anything to the reporter?
The reporter clearly asked about previous incidents.
An anonymous email or better, a signed email which you ask to be off-the-record, can do wonders. But it has to happen quick, since they're unlikely to revisit the story a day later.
2/04/2012 11:05:00 AM
your syntax is perfect for meeting the current standards the msm is holding their 'reporters' to.
as is your mindset.
read my lips.
The CLOUTED again. Luckily nobody died then they would blame the PoPo
XO's should be in the field conducting License Investigations at all bars in the 7th and 11th districts after midmight ,0001hrs
2/04/2012 09:58:00 AM
HAAAHAA Horiatio Who the fuck Ya Kiddin? Worked in 007,011,005(the worst) and the rest of the south side, with a little A/4 sprinkled in.
(Ret Lt) For GOOD REASON!
Be Safe All-Please Back Up Each Other Up!
No One Else Will.
St. Michael the Arch Angel Pray For US-Be Safe
Send in the Dept. of Revenue investigators, these guys don't need warrants or consent to search. I remember about 3 yrs ago on a summer night they were having some type of party next door at the motorcycle club and I was a Sgt. in MSF, we went there at the request for help and wound up at this bar, We went in, had a few problems but locked up a whole bunch, towed and ticketed cars parked up on the sidewalk, etc. You see the problem arises when certain ethnic group members think that because they may know the Alderman or reverend that the police have to fear them, they further think that because they have a job, any job that this along with heavily starched pants and shirts and a car with armour alled tires and just been washed look, entitles them to Fuck with the Police, threaten with the loss of our jobs, law suits and other bashings that they should be allowed to act like animals in the wild. I say to this, let these people cram all the bodies they want into this club, let them shoot each other and fornicate in the parking lots and reak havoc onto their own kind. I hope I don'T sound prejudiced but I have had enough bashing of the police by ignorant people of all races other then white, Sorry that's the way I feel and this is in no way the feelings of my fellow officers.
"Spooky 3 2; Use 105 Shells; Bring The Rain."
Sigh, in a just world maybe.
--except that everyone is locked IN this joint, no matter what they're doing.
Great, keep the door locked till they're urn ready. Save on the county having to bury them.
You need more than a dozen coppers and some of the Licensing Unit expertise to close a place. WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER. More deaths on the way, guaranteed. Thanks Mr. Mayor
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The licensing unit has as much expertise on license violations as any officer. The licensing unit in CPD today consists of 7 officers total.
Seek out Revenue investigators at least two days prior to your team planning on hitting a joint. They will write all the violations and video tape the place and put a cease and desist on the owner that night.
The revenue that city hall generates comes from the repeated fines that these unruly places must pay. And that is why the city never officially closes these joints - they create revenue.
What ever happened to two brothers and a stranger?
in the Dept. of Revenue investigators, these guys don't need warrants or consent to search. I remember about 3 yrs ago on a summer night they were having some type of party next door at the motorcycle club and I was a Sgt. in MSF, we went there at the request for help and wound up at this bar, We went in, had
You don't need a search warrant or consent to search on a business establishment. You can do a license check at any time..Duh
Ervin always WAS a piece of gobshite. PLAIN & SIMPLE TRUTH. If you weren't of HIS ilk, and had a BULLSHIT beef on you, he'd not give two flying fux.
But, if you were on HIS team? Dude had yo back…ya feel me?
Did the media miss something?
Or did police officers who choose not to mention anything to the reporter?
The reporter clearly asked about previous incidents.
An anonymous email or better, a signed email which you ask to be off-the-record, can do wonders. But it has to happen quick, since they're unlikely to revisit the story a day later.
2/04/2012 11:05:00 AM
your syntax is perfect for meeting the current standards the msm is holding their 'reporters' to.
as is your mindset.
read my lips.
-----
You jagbag. Who do you think you are, e.e. cummings or c.s. lewis?
Read my butt hairs. Mindset your head to my ass.
You don't need a search warrant or consent to search on a business establishment. You can do a license check at any time..Duh
2/05/2012 12:29:00 AM
Where the hell do you work? A license premise check means verifying business licenses. It doesn't give you the lawful authority to search the premises. You do need a search warrant or consent to search.
in the Dept. of Revenue investigators, these guys don't need warrants or consent to search. I remember about 3 yrs ago on a summer night they were having some type of party next door at the motorcycle club and I was a Sgt. in MSF, we went there at the request for help and wound up at this bar, We went in, had
You don't need a search warrant or consent to search on a business establishment. You can do a license check at any time..Duh
2/05/2012 12:29:00 AM
I thought about telling the good old "Sgt" the same thing. But I have gotten multiple arguments with retards over this and the "probable cause" they need to write contact cards.
sometimes former retired show up at community meetings to act like they still have power over the current commanders
this would help them in the business community where they once controlled what place was closed down , ticketed etc
if you get my drift
Claudell Ervin was the area one commander and he had a connection to the Bulls. A detective went out and purchased a professional ball for his child which Ervin said he would get Jordan to sign. Guess what....Ervin got no signature and kept the ball. Real class ass.
You jagbag. Who do you think you are, e.e. cummings or c.s. lewis?
Read my butt hairs. Mindset your head to my ass.
2/05/2012 07:39:00 AM
since your ass is where you do all of your thinking, may we conclude that you also, on occasion, wear a hat?
The 011th dist managers better document every conversation they have with this ervin guy before another e2 explodes. Then they're gonna say "da police never did anything" about dis club..blah, blah, blah..
Where the hell do you work? A license premise check means verifying business licenses. It doesn't give you the lawful authority to search the premises. You do need a search warrant or consent to search.
2/05/2012 11:02:00 AM
Yes, because you can only walk into a tavern check the license and walk out. Nevermind if there is prostitution, gambling, narcotic sales, minors, etc.
Because the police cannot do anything but walk into a tavern to "verify a business license"
4-60-141 Illegal conduct on licensed premises – Cooperation with police.
(a) No licensee shall permit or allow any illegal activity on the licensed premises.
(b) It is the affirmative duty of a licensee to report promptly to the police department all illegal activity reported to or observed by the licensee on or within sight of the licensed premises; to answer fully and truthfully all questions of an identified police officer who inquires or investigates concerning persons or events in or around the licensed business; to cooperate with the police in any such inquiry or investigation, including the giving of oral or written statements to the police at reasonable times and locations in the course of investigations; and to sign a complaint against any person whom the licensee observes in any illegal conduct or activity on or within sight of the licensed premises.
(c) For purposes of this section, “licensee” includes an employee or agent of a licensee.
(Added Coun. J. 5-17-95, p. 1241)
Where the hell do you work? A license premise check means verifying business licenses. It doesn't give you the lawful authority to search the premises. You do need a search warrant or consent to search.
2/05/2012 11:02:00 AM
Yes, because you can only walk into a tavern check the license and walk out. Nevermind if there is prostitution, gambling, narcotic sales, minors, etc.
Because the police cannot do anything but walk into a tavern to "verify a business license"
4-60-141 Illegal conduct on licensed premises – Cooperation with police.
(a) No licensee shall permit or allow any illegal activity on the licensed premises.
(b) It is the affirmative duty of a licensee to report promptly to............................
Blah blah blah. This is exactly the point. You do not build an investigation based on what you call plain view. Not to be offensive, but your response is exactly what the problem is with todays police. Uneducated/inexperienced on how to build a solid case. This department is way too young and led by even younger.
"Build a solid case"?!? You are watching way to many episodes of Law and Order. This is Chicago/Cook county. You could present the CCSA office with a "rock solid" case and they would plead it out to a municipal ordinance violation. You are an asshat and not the police, so GFY.
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