050 and 051 to Close?
Shaved is reporting that the Department of Aviation (amusingly abbreviated DOA) is about to or has just purchased weapons and vests for their officers in anticipation of actually being allowed to go about the airport grounds armed.
If true, what is the implication?
If true, what is the implication?
- The Chicago Police presence has become redundant, meaning yet another unit (or units) will be closed and the officers scattered to the corners of the city
This may result in another wave of retirements as the high seniority and clout-heavy officers who don't want to go to 007 or 011 bail out.
The good news is Rahm can claim another few hundred officers pulled out of his ass and "redeployed" to the streets.
The better news is that Aldercreature Burke won't have to take his city vehicle over the border to Wisconsin for the golf outing this year, resulting is massive savings for taxpayers.
Who's got the info on this one?
The good news is Rahm can claim another few hundred officers pulled out of his ass and "redeployed" to the streets.
The better news is that Aldercreature Burke won't have to take his city vehicle over the border to Wisconsin for the golf outing this year, resulting is massive savings for taxpayers.
Who's got the info on this one?
Labels: rumors
posted by SCC at 6:01 AM
184 Comments:
Gonna need those officers to set-up the rolling road closures as the 7,000+ dignitaries that are bringing the Apocalypse here will want to sight see, travel back and forth to the airports and maybe hit a few of the suburban casinos while they're here.
Those guys won't be able to take those weapons home!
You have to sign those out like radios and tazers!
More Rent a cop "stupidity"!
Carry and Conceal for all law abiding citizens is the answer these days!
Illinois is just a FUCKED UP State!
The Shaver is usually right on the money. I believe it!
Is that 86 year old guy still working out there the one who lives in a suburb? He would be a good guy to have armed and policing the airport.
Excellent next should be officers on larabee close the school and send officers back to the street the online training is the best way to train. Also all school officers should be assign to the street ASAP no need for officers in schools ! . City wide everyone should work the same hours no more 8 hours for some and not all . Good Job Mayor Emanuel .
DOA has always had vests and weapons... just can't carry on airport property.
This should have been done the moment they created that outfit! The concept of a bunch of trained cops without the ability to protect anyone or anything was an expensive joke!
The move will add some cops and perhaps free up regular CPD officers for street patrol.
These were phantom units anyway. Some of the in custody jobs midway would call in you'd swear were done by the keystone cops. Guys with over twenty years that act like recruits. And don't expect anyone to go to court either.
Plus the special police wanted to carry guns years ago and dayle said no. They will be turned into cpd when it's finished.
If true I know a few Officers out at O'Hare are going to have nervous breakdowns for FEAR of going to the streets to work! After all when daddy takes care of his boy or girl and tells them you don't need to work out amongest the "savages"!
If this is true then mayor Emanuel is essentially on purpose laying off police officers. He knows in his right mind that most of the officers at the two airports have very high seniority. Now their units get disbanded and they end up working in shit districts. They know the officers will just say "thanks but not thanks, I will just retire and call it quits".
Mayor Emanuel has a great strategy; make life very miserable for police officers. So they retire. Thus saving him a lot of money. Then you don't replace the officers that do retire.
To keep a lid on crime in the south and west sides of Chicago, you just deploy as many officers from the department as possible. Even if that means stripping the already depleted thin ranks from the north, northwest and southwest sides of Chicago (you know the "low crime districts"). While the professional criminal goes out there and turns those "low crime districts" into shit.
It all sounds like a plan to me. A disaster plan that is.
Signed, a police officer who weeps for his beloved city.
Ellyn will retire for sure, so this is a win-win
If true, Rahm is truly insane......while they (DOA officers) are nice guys, they nowhere near pack the gear to do what is needed.
The Feds will never allow it, even LAPD absorbed the LAX police after 9/11
The PAPD in NY/NJ is different.
Bullshit
This May will be very bad! check this link out they are getting ready. http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/tactical-briefing-25.html
Wait until the know it all female on afternoons has to work in a district. hahahahahahahaha. She won't be able to hold herself on nonexistent missions, ignore the radio, get a job and scream "squad I was just about to call you", or shop at Cosco while on duty anymore.
Why don't the officer stationed there buy their own gear. Enough of those uniform checks going for sports bets.
Who cares?? I for one would like to see some of those dinosaurs walking around 011 and 007 trying to be the police. The majority are clout babies that have been hidden for the majority of their 'careers'...if you even want to call it that. Let them finish out their days being denied lunch and running from one bullshit ghetto drama call to the next while dealing with a**hole supervisors (most, not all). Welcome back is what I say!! And let them all know that their car trunks will have to be OK for lockers for now.
Dept. of Aviation did get Homeland Security funds for vests long ago, it's just now they're spending it. DOA does get involved in many functions on the borders of the airfield, they should be armed as well. There is some buzz about the G8/NATO dignitary security or lack thereof. This may be why it's rumored. But, if given additional police powers of arrest, good for them. We can use they help. There may not be any immediate plans to disband, but many of last years incoming bid spots are already retiring, so 050/051 manpower will be back down to where it was by 2013. We don't expect any openings, the supplement will likely be DOA.
Was that a DOA Golf Outing. Sounds like all my golf outings and the state of my game. I liked it better when my game was on life support, at least I was making some putts.
who cares?
If that is true, to leave the hands of the airport in the TSA and the rejects we know as DOA, I will never ever fly again.
Department of Aviation couldn't police their way out of a paper bag.
all i know is that the C/O LT @ midway needs medication.
looks like they found out yet another big secret...meaning...everything has to run its course...ask anyone that works at the airports...they dont do a thing...this is just another do nothing unit Rahm found...good luck in retirement...and for those who cant retire...good luck in "da hood"
This is a bullshit rumor from some jealous fuck. Trust me, I know because my frickin juice told me that I'm not going anywhere. He guaranteed me that I can end my career out here.
Freakin haters.
Awesome great news . Put more officer on the street . We should only have 1 secretary for commanders .everyone else on the street no need for 2 commanders secretary . All sworn timekeeper back on the street . Review
Officer only 1 needed everyone else back on the street.
Oh my gosh! What will Robards-Dillon's little princess on midnights do now?! Where will she go now with her vast knowledge of police skills?!
Retirements - Pensions
Tribune reports LA suing a bank for bad investments. LAPD has their pensions nearly fully funded and they earned 21 percent last year. Sounds like strong aggressive management and oversight.
Did our pension fund get bad investment guidance that would merit a similar lawsuit to recover lost monies?
Not true CPD is staying.
I do beleve the Racoon's story of putting more cops on the street is wearing pretty thin.
OMG. What is Lt. ES gonna do now? You know, she is one of the greatest bosses ever. Just ask her.
That is 100% false! Take it to the bank! Aviation is not being armed! They are not trained as long as CPD! Aviation police are nothing more than security guards!
The guns were purchased for use at the academy. Also the vests are under a match grant.
There was a plan of reducing CPD at the airport and having the aviation police tak over more duties, such as traffic. They already do some of this unarmed, even though they are state certified and qualify one a year same as CPD.
The CPD is already so short of manpower at the airport that they would have to add manpower to come up to the level of a joint CPD/DOA force.
Is it my imagination or are a lot of murders being classified as " Death Investigations"? Hey New York boys this has been tried before by past superintendents in an attempt to cloud the homicide rate. Comp Stat is not working and the January Homicide rate is nothing but a speck to what it will be in the spring and summer months. YOU ARE NOT FOOLING ANYONE with your fudging of the numbers and it's only a matter of time befor it bites you in the ass!
Are Bruce H and Al H from 050 really going to 007? You boys are going to wish you had those foot posts back in 023.
050 guys to stay, but unit might be rolled into 016 and 008 at midway
The airlines, who pay the bill, are starting to ask questions about all the ghost payroll at the airports.
It's about time they arm the aviation police. I've always thought it was the dumbest thing to have state certified and trained police officers standing at an airport in the post 9-11 world (or even pre 9-11 world)unarmed. The city allows them to drive around in marked police vehicles, yet no firearms. I can't think of another city anywhere in the U.S. that has unarmed police officers stationed at their airports. And as far as I'm concerned, the old timers still carrying revolvers wearing old worn out blue vest covers loitering around the airport looks bad when people are traveling through the city. And as far as anybody complaining that some at the aviation police are goofs, just look around our department (CPD) and you will see a plethera of goofs from P.O.'s all the way up to commanders. If Rahm arms the DOA and allows them to enforce the law (which they are trained to do already), that will be one of the few good decisions that I feel he has made so far. I'm sure many will disagree with me.
The buzz at 35th is not about 050 and 051 its about 701 and 702.
There is talk that the CTA should utilize their new pod cameras more and hire a private security firm (read: hiring off-duty p.o.s) to patrol the transit system. There could be grant money involved thus putting more police back in patrol.
It is no secret that there are not a lot of personnel in Mass Transit and their lack of activity reflect that. A private security firm would not have to payout pensions, medical, and other benefits thus saving the CTA and City money.
Doubt it.
I said it before. If you are a patrolmen and you think closing units is good, then you are retarded. Good luck being in area 2 for 15-20years.
Illinois State Rep Constance Howard from Chicago has introduced House Bill 1205 which will make residential burglary a probationable offense. This bill is scheduled for a hearing in the House Judicial Committee next Tuesday
OT: anyone know when we're going to get our w2's? Seems like it gets later and later each year.
who is the norman Bates on crack look a like dude wearing a dept of avation uniform who walks the midway terminals wearing sap gloves, knee high steel toe combat boots and holding an asp baton?
On the face of it, it certainly seems like a good idea.
SCC here is the real scoop! The airlines pay the salaries,and the benefits,+ pay for all the vehicles and fuel for CPD. The coppers cost the city budget ZERO, My brother is a station supervisor for Southwest airlines,and said that the airline would never allow CPD to be pulled out in favor of DOA! Aviation police were called aviation security up to 3 years ago,and there reflects this as the AS for aviation security denotes on the vehicles. The AVP (Aviation police department),have no lock up or processing facilities,have never done a case report,have never written a traffic ticket,never did an arrest report,as a matter of fact they have never even arrested ANYONE!
It is true the city aviation department bought them vest because they had extra in the budget and did not want it to go back as next year they would not receive the same amount.
Another dirty secret is that the guy in charge was former Bensenville police chief who as we well know the city forced that village to sell their nice homes, so they could plow through that once nice suburb to make more runways that airlines don't want! Look yesterday American Airlines is laying off (FIRING) 13,000+ workers! Now the former chief a young guy, was given this plum assignment,little police experience but his wet dream is to head a department like AVP!
Apparently like we see with CPD superintendents the officers in Chicago are not qualified to run a department,so outsiders are brought in to run roughshod on working coppers. Also many of the AVP officers have so many issues that make CPD look like a college team VS a grade school team. When calls come out where is APD?
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This just in,news caught and tape as his wife watches the new boss of the airports WHOOOOOOOOOO!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGS9KxLQ7bw
Interesting in conjuction with the fax put out this week dealing with location codes etc for both airports in regard to aira etc for reporting purposes and charging
Off Topic: RIP Soul Train's Don Cornelius...Not too many people know, but he was a Chicago Copper
Ray Charles could have seen this one coming!
There will be few tears shed by those without clout! The Airport Police had their own little scam going with a Special Employment which was exclusively for them. Patrolmen were making Sgts. pay and Sgts. making Lts. pay, while nobody else could get any Special.
From the Occupy Chicago Facebook site....
“The mayor of Chicago has a clear choice,” said Bernadine Dorhn, former member of the Weather Underground and associate professor of law at Northwestern University, who spoke out against Chicago police actions at the 1968 DNC. “He can represent Chicago as an Open City: open the parks and public spaces, and welcome debate, dissent and arts … Or he can shut down speech and assembly, and prepare for the apocalypse: arm and prepare police for violence and confrontation, close the parks, schools and public places, and barricade the warmakers of NATO and G-8 as they meet for the new military/economic order.”
These assholes sure aren't preaching "peaceful, Ghandi-like protest" in their rhetoric. Instead, they seem to be gearing everyone up for a big war imo. Don't believe their bullshit for a second.
RAHM says romney out of touch. Guee Ballarino worth how much over 15 million? Kids too good for public schools
.....Please
not gonna happen. Aviation is fine from a security standpoint, but once you give them powers of arrest, deadly force, etc. there are checks and balances that have to be put into play.
They need an internal investigative body, detective division, independent police review, just to name a few.
They are titled "police" because Maurer searched to empower them, but in reality, they are no more than unarmed security guards driving around and watching as CPD does the arrest work, actual confrontation, etc.
unit $$ 55
wilbur is way too expensive
Rahm is adamant about not hiring so this would allow him to put more boots on the ground without having to hire.
There'd be a lot of upset prima donnas though.
I don't see it happening. We write the reports, we handle the arrestees, we deal with the traffic in and around the airports. All this means is they will be armed while they key the radio, calling for us.
Preckwinkle To Eliminate Sheriff's Police
Cook County President Toni Preckwinkle is announcing that 80% of Cook County suburbs responded affirmatively to a survey asking if they would annex unincorporated areas, where the County would pay the suburban police a contracted fee for police service there instead of paying Sheriff's Police.
Sheriff's officials have been shown signed documents that purport to show 80% of Cook County suburbs support this back-door plan to eliminate 232 Sheriff's Police patrol officer positions that currently cost $19 million a year. This tiny fraction of the massive $4 billion County budget is the latest sacrificial lamb.
If they are state certified hire them in Chicago....
Anonymous said...
Excellent next should be officers on larabee close the school and send officers back to the street the online training is the best way to train. Also all school officers should be assign to the street ASAP no need for officers in schools ! . City wide everyone should work the same hours no more 8 hours for some and not all . Good Job Mayor Emanuel .
2/02/2012 06:34:00 AM
Huh? Are you being serious? Sometimes it's hard to tell from the text.
First off, if you really believe that online training is better or as good as in person hands on training, you are nuts. I've had some really good training at Near North, some not so good. The active shooter was really good. Needs more scenario's tho. The terrorist one really blew tho. Just horrible and incredibly boring.
But we should be pushing for way more training than NONE!
You're advocating sending everyone back to the districts and having basically no more training. That would mean that pretty much those 6 months in the academy however many years ago are it. You know how much shit has changed since i've been in the academy and how many better tactics and options for dealing with situations are available now than what i learned years ago in there. As soon as you're involved in a shooting or something crazy situation, believe me, you'll wish you had WAY more training. Anything to give us more options, recognition and calmness when dealing with these crazies out there is a good thing.
I used to work for DOA. Its true they are getting vest but no guns. There are some solid officers out there but some real goofs as well. If they arm them they would have to let half their dept go because the majority of the officers won't be able to qualify. PS who gives a fuck about the clout babies having to leave the airport and come back to the streets?
Anonymous said...
Is that 86 year old guy still working out there the one who lives in a suburb? He would be a good guy to have armed and policing the airport.
2/02/2012 06:34:00 AM
That 86 year old guy is actually a retired CPD lieutenant. And ... he was just terminated for living out of the city.
Big command changes coming tomorrow. Lots of boxes being packed tonight!
The bald headed harda** at rifle training should be next. Send that pud back to pushin a beat car.. its about all he is worth in this department.
I am a DOA copper and its true. Not only are we getting weapons but our supervisors have been going thru riot training and word is us officers are next. I guess the plan is to use us as casualty replacements during the summits. Also as a combat experience military man I have been task with drawing up a plan to start a rapid response unit which is a basically a swat team. I'm already slated to attend the FBI swat school at Great Lakes. Upon my return I will hand pick 11 other officers for my squad. We have federal and airline(nothing from the city) money and will basically receive the same training as CPD swat only we will be task with boarding planes and responding to tactical incidents thru out the airports.
06h you are always two blocks away, you are awesome!
Anonymous said...
Those guys won't be able to take those weapons home!
You have to sign those out like radios and tazers!
More Rent a cop "stupidity"!
Carry and Conceal for all law abiding citizens is the answer these days!
Illinois is just a FUCKED UP State!
2/02/2012 06:28:00 AM
It's probably a good thing because the dinosaurs that are out there now don't want to do a damm thing. No young guys there at all. Nothing but old timers there that want the OT and do nothing.
Anonymous said...
OT: anyone know when we're going to get our w2's? Seems like it gets later and later each year.
2/02/2012 11:15:00 AM
Got ours January 31st You should have too.
DOA sgt said its all true. There was a staff meeting and apparently the city figured out that every other major city in America has its own airport police dept with fully functional units. Word is that a lot of the older DOA guys will be getting notices soon letting them know the dept is going in a different direction and their services will no longer be needed.
Still plenty of room for more "soft landers" in 018.
Awesome great news . Put more officer on the street . We should only have 1 secretary for commanders .everyone else on the street no need for 2 commanders secretary . All sworn timekeeper back on the street . Review
Officer only 1 needed everyone else back on the street.
2/02/2012 08:42:00 AM
Seriously? In my south side district we've got 3 commanders secretaries, 2 timekeepers(1 civilian,1sworn),
2 review officers and a sworn full duty p.o. as district manager/crossing guard supervisor!
That's a total of 7 sworn working up in the administrative office. Come on Dave wake up!
maybe hire the fat asses at O'Hare, who bark at motorists trying to pick up arriving passengers..."Hey, asshole, you can't stop there!"...."okay, then do the arriving passengers throw their bags into the car when I drive by?" Welcome to Chicago!
someone google Dohrn, and that whole movement.....
OT: anyone know when we're going to get our w2's? Seems like it gets later and later each year.
2/02/2012 11:15:00 AM
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By law you have to have your w2's by 31 Jan. They were distributed on Monday. You have to sign for them. It must be your unit that dropped the ball. Ask you unit secretary.
191 now thats useful
DEPT Aviation PO PO wheres do they go?
Toughest assignment 050 officers have to make daily is where to go to lunch? Frannies, buena beef , culvers, rosatis, chipotle .Lucky bastards!!0
OT: anyone know when we're going to get our w2's? Seems like it gets later and later each year.
2/02/2012 11:15:00 AM
Where do you work? They were sent out a few days ago (31Jan12). They waited to the last possible day as usual to have to give them to us. Did you bother to check your station. They are probably sitting out in the open, on top of a desk, unsecured, for everyone to look at or take just like the paychecks!!
It's about time they arm the aviation police. I've always thought it was the dumbest thing to have state certified and trained police officers standing at an airport in the post 9-11 world (or even pre 9-11 world)unarmed. The city allows them to drive around in marked police vehicles, yet no firearms. I can't think of another city anywhere in the U.S. that has unarmed police officers stationed at their airports. And as far as I'm concerned, the old timers still carrying revolvers wearing old worn out blue vest covers loitering around the airport looks bad when people are traveling through the city. And as far as anybody complaining that some at the aviation police are goofs, just look around our department (CPD) and you will see a plethera of goofs from P.O.'s all the way up to commanders. If Rahm arms the DOA and allows them to enforce the law (which they are trained to do already), that will be one of the few good decisions that I feel he has made so far. I'm sure many will disagree with me.
2/02/2012 10:27:00 AM
The Aviation Police were a Daley friend contract deal. Why should the airlines pay for them. The CPD has been there for decades long before someone decided to line their pockets. Be careful what you wish for.
It's probably a good thing because the dinosaurs that are out there now don't want to do a damm thing. No young guys there at all. Nothing but old timers there that want the OT and do nothing.
2/02/2012 04:18:00 PM
Wrong. There are plenty of young officers.
I am a DOA copper and its true. Not only are we getting weapons but our supervisors have been going thru riot training and word is us officers are next. I guess the plan is to use us as casualty replacements during the summits. Also as a combat experience military man I have been task with drawing up a plan to start a rapid response unit which is a basically a swat team. I'm already slated to attend the FBI swat school at Great Lakes. Upon my return I will hand pick 11 other officers for my squad. We have federal and airline(nothing from the city) money and will basically receive the same training as CPD swat only we will be task with boarding planes and responding to tactical incidents thru out the airports.
You're a complete STROKE buddy!
maybe hire the fat asses at O'Hare, who bark at motorists trying to pick up arriving passengers..."Hey, asshole, you can't stop there!"...."okay, then do the arriving passengers throw their bags into the car when I drive by?" Welcome to Chicago!
2/02/2012 04:39:00 PM
Oh how true. I had to pick up a family member at the airport(you know the arrival area). The person I was picking up wasn't outside yet so I passed as I was waved frantically and yelled at by the P.O.s to keep moving. I had to make 6 trips around the airport and back up to the arrival area until my family member was outside waiting. I stopped the car and low and behold a P.O. comes running up and says I can't park or stand there. My family member had to put one bag in the back seat and get in, so a matter of 20 seconds I was there. Again the airport P.O. starts yelling at me about parking. I told said P.O. that I'am a fellow CPD and inquired how am I supposed to pick up a person who just arrived at the airport in the arrival pick-up without briefly stopping the car to let them in. I joking stated that should I drive by slowly with the doors open and have them jump in. I saw the officer then standing behind my car as I was pulling away writing on his hand(my plate). A few weeks later I received a parking ticket. So my question to all you airport police who have it so rough, How do you pick up a person at the airport without stopping the car without getting attitude and a ticket from you. Signed a fellow P.O. who's been working the streets in a beat car for over 20 years not in a clouted unit.
Well, guess who could not make it to observe the three day g-8 training today? Neither Kirby nor Georgas could find the time to came and observe the training. However, both of them had no problem clearing their schedules to make it Hawaii at tax payer expense! Passing along their wisdom and expertise no doubt. Kirby even manages to make it to Monterey every couple of weeks to support her efforts at the Naval Post Graduate School. With that pedigree and her expertise navigating the rocks and shoals of the g-8/nato summits she will probably wind up an admiral.
The Aviation Police have been around since 1991 or 1992. Their first boss, or Superintendent, was Ira Harris, formerly a Deputy Superintendent with CPD. The first groups received exactly the same training as CPD, with the addition of some hours relative to policing airports. They took the same state exam as CPD, and were quelified to carry weapons. It was Ira Harris' decision to NOT arm them. A lot of people tried to to persuade him to change his mind, but he was adamant that they not be armed. I never quite understood his thought process. Quite likely it was a political decision made above his level.
Ellyn gone, no big loss, just reason for a party!
Hot off the press the airport unit will close and everyone will be sent to 7
Does anybody know what the likely water consumption of an average person is? I ask this because it might be i significant amount over a 12-16 hour period.
I'm sure Deb "Pepper" Kirby an "Stevie Wonder" Georgas will have plenty to eat and drink from their Wolfschanze at the Inter-Continental or the Trump Tower.
Screw u haters!!!! I bid here in 2010 with 28 yrs on....boo hoo.....
Where will they send the P.O. who stands at the CTA turnstyles at O'Hare, wearing all the ribbons that make him look like a South American General, be sent?
2/02/2012 08:20:00 AM
And how would you react to being told to go shell out $$$ for First Issue?
Anonymous said...
I don't see it happening. We write the reports, we handle the arrestees, we deal with the traffic in and around the airports. All this means is they will be armed while they key the radio, calling for us.
2/02/2012 02:31:00 PM
You don't do SHIT!!! Who the hell are you kidding?! You guys work harder trying to figure out how not to work. Lets be honest, you left the districts because of clout or you cant deal with the streets anymore. You are at the airport because its easier than the districts and you don't want to work. Example,someone waiting an hour for credential check. Really an hour CPD what did you come from midway? I am not talking about all the CPD officers at ohare but most. Let me be the first to say thanks to the CPD officers that work together as a team with APD. As far as hacks like you...don't lie to yourself.
disband unit 701 , cpd needs police in districts not public transportation section
i'll gladly work my day off riding thje bus and train for cta $$$
Awesome great news . Put more officer on the street . We should only have 1 secretary for commanders .everyone else on the street no need for 2 commanders secretary . All sworn timekeeper back on the street . Review
Officer only 1 needed everyone else back on the street.
Watch what you wish for. You should try working in the office, been there done that and got out it's not an easy job. Civilians aren't the answer maybe more automation.
All this talk has been going on for a long time, believe it when it happens. I can say yes APD/DOA/CDA whatever you want to call the department has been fitted for Bullet proof vests. The guns have been a rumor, but Im pretty sure the guns were bought for the academy guys. Rumor says we will be getting them also. I honestly dont see CPD just being taken out of the airports just like that. CPD has great officers and do nothing hacks. APD is no different. I can say one thing, if it does change and I will believe it when I see it, you clout excuse, negative talking pricks will be BEGGING to come work at the airports.
unit $$ 55
wilbur is way too expensive
-Hey Idiot me and my Horse work hard.You can thank me are the G8 NATO crowd contoll
I would love to hear from the REAL CPD front line officers. The ones that are in the districts and really doing the job. Not these lazy Cpd officers at 050 051. ( again most not all at 050 051) like anything else if it happens GOOD FOR YOU AVIATION POLICE SECURITY SPECIAL POLICE PUBLIC SAFETY WHATEVER!!! Keep making that pay check and providing for your family just like CPD.
It's time for Ellyn to go one of the worst bosses I ever worked for
The bald headed harda** at rifle training should be next. Send that pud back to pushin a beat car.. its about all he is worth in this department.
You're gonna have to be a little more specific. Half the rifle instructors are bald. Which one of them hurt your feelings?
Ot
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Teens in cab attack will not be charged with hate crimes
Three juveniles who allegedly assaulted a cab driver and his passenger in Center City Saturday night while shouting racial slurs will not be charged with a hate crime, according to the Philadelphia District Attorney's Office.
3:53 P.M.:You Sir is all Bullshit !If they armed you knuckleheads you would be shooting each other before the week was up!
TO: They are not trained as long as CPD! Aviation police are nothing more than security guards
You're absolutely right, they are not trained as long as CPD...The state training requirement is 480 hours (or 12 weeks).... That is what most agencies send their people to and they are STILL the police
Don't worry K.S. and R.J., Area 3 Dep. Chief will still take care of you.
Who cares its easy to go after units. Go after the office workers who spent a career inside and have no intention of ever working the street. They are in every dist. , area and 35th st. Check the transfer order, they go from an area desk to another at 35th street. Go after the 100s hidden in all the special teams.
How about checking their work career. Anyone who spent a career inside switch with light duty, there is a body on the street. Or no one can work inside with less than 15 yrs min.
OT: They are laying off 48 Milwaukee County Sheriff Deputies with between 9-10 years on.
Seriously? In my south side district we've got 3 commanders secretaries, 2 timekeepers(1 civilian,1sworn), 2 review officers and a sworn full duty p.o. as district manager/crossing guard supervisor! That's a total of 7 sworn working up in the administrative office. Come on Dave wake up!
2/02/2012 04:37:00 PM
That's it? 006 has roughly 15 sworn po in commanders office plus a sgt who's only job is to initiate cr#'s on people. That is not including CAPS.
It's probably a good thing because the dinosaurs that are out there now don't want to do a damm thing. No young guys there at all. Nothing but old timers there that want the OT and do nothing.
2/02/2012 04:18:00
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Many of those dinosaurs were the working police at one time.
I would take anything "Shaved" has to say about the airports with a grain of salt since he might still be upset about being thwarted in his attempts to serve process papers in a police facility and threatened CR's even though h really didn't want to get a number on a copper as he put it.
LAX Police were created to re-assign LAPD Officer back to the street. Still to this day, LAPD officer are assigned to the airport, they do foot patrols in the foot court, enforce traffic adjectent to LAX, and conduct follow-up investigations. LAX police do not have a detective division, youth officers, or SWAT. They use the city for this.
RAHM says romney out of touch. Guee Ballarino worth how much over 15 million? Kids too good for public schools
.....Please
2/02/2012 12:54:00 PM
Rahm criticizing Romney is like the pot calling the kettle black! Rahm, sitting on his gift wrapped $18 million nest egg, is completely out of touch with the average tax paying citizen. He talks like he sympathizes with the working stiff yet he's forever nickel and diming the legitimate, tax paying lower middle to middle class.
Hey Rahm zip it and go fuck yourself.
Anonymous said...
Excellent next should be officers on larabee close the school and send officers back to the street the online training is the best way to train. Also all school officers should be assign to the street ASAP no need for officers in schools ! . City wide everyone should work the same hours no more 8 hours for some and not all . Good Job Mayor Emanuel .
you sounds like a liberal paper pusher, i hope you dont get a paper cut and bleed out.
do you ever think some officer are hidden for a reason their worthless and are in units, inside, or some held on useless a mission car.
The G-8 Polka is gonna be fun to watch. Is it true that Tony Preckwinkle, Timothy Evans and Danny Davis are all retired alderman who have city pensions to add to their big government salaries? How come the Sun Times or Pam Zeckman don't report on these 'Double Dippers' ?
do we need po's to deliver mail?
I am a DOA copper and its true. Not only are we getting weapons but our supervisors have been going thru riot training and word is us officers are next. I guess the plan is to use us as casualty replacements during the summits. Also as a combat experience military man I have been task with drawing up a plan to start a rapid response unit which is a basically a swat team. I'm already slated to attend the FBI swat school at Great Lakes. Upon my return I will hand pick 11 other officers for my squad. We have federal and airline(nothing from the city) money and will basically receive the same training as CPD swat only we will be task with boarding planes and responding to tactical incidents thru out the airports.
LOL!!! WOW, exactly why I wouldn't this person with ANY weapon, let alone a gun
I guess tuffy in 011 left the airports in just the right time.. oh wait thats right.. tuffy didnt leave, he was told to leave because everyone was tired of his tough guy attituide and "war stories". But, when your a guy like tuffy its just another day getting dumped from something.. sos, robbery teams, 008 tac teams, fugitive apprehension, a/1 mission team and the list goes on and on and on. Are the guys in 011 sick of you yet tuffy?? Or do those puds actually like your B.S warstories about "back in the day" yo yo yo kid!
By PoliceOne Staff
CALUMET CITY, Ill. — Two police officers fired shots during a call involving a teen with Asperger's syndrome, who later died at the hospital.
Officers had been to the home of Stephon Watts, 15, for eleven domestic disturbances prior to Wednesday's incident, the Chicago Sun-Times reported. Five officers arrived and as two descended into the basement, the 5-foot-10, 220-lb. teen appeared and "made slashing strikes" while holding a knife, according to police.
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The roll call training vids wont teach about this one
O' Brien said...
The Aviation Police have been around since 1991 or 1992. Their first boss, or Superintendent, was Ira Harris, formerly a Deputy Superintendent with CPD. The first groups received exactly the same training as CPD, with the addition of some hours relative to policing airports. They took the same state exam as CPD, and were quelified to carry weapons. It was Ira Harris' decision to NOT arm them.
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Not True. The airport police got the metro program which is half as long as the CPD program. Many in that first class were people who failed our screening process, drug testing, were fired from the CPD, or flunked out of the CPD recruit training. Yes they did get a State Certificate if they passed the state exam but those first classes were so bad they did not get a CPD certificate.
Most of those screw-ups are gone but not all. The difference is even the worst of our worst people have worked the streets for some time even if it was only a couple of years for the management people. The older 65% all had 25 years or more before they could bid out there.
p.s. They were armed to start with until they had shots fired at a check point and were forced to disarm. They only qualified once a year to keep the peace officer status.
The avaiation "police" are a joke.. Have you ever been to the range when these idiots go for qualifications??!! WOW... The Maurer and Fitzgerald clan was running these buffoons...figures... Keep them in empty holsters..they are certainly unorganozed and not professional.
"There are some solid officers out there but some real goofs as well."
That's true of CPD, too.
"PS who gives a fuck about the clout babies having to leave the airport and come back to the streets?"
They're clouted. They'll just end up in some other soft spot. Don't be stupid and think they'll stay on the street.
"Send that pud back to pushin a beat car.. its about all he is worth in this department."
Yeah, because you're the lowest form of life if you're "pushin a beat car".
Thanks a lot, dumbass.
I am a DOA copper and its true. Not only are we getting weapons but our supervisors have been going thru riot training and word is us officers are next. I guess the plan is to use us as casualty replacements during the summits. Also as a combat experience military man I have been task with drawing up a plan to start a rapid response unit which is a basically a swat team. I'm already slated to attend the FBI swat school at Great Lakes. Upon my return I will hand pick 11 other officers for my squad. We have federal and airline(nothing from the city) money and will basically receive the same training as CPD swat only we will be task with boarding planes and responding to tactical incidents thru out the airports.
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Go back to playing Modern Warfare on your X-Box, goof.
"Awesome great news . Put more officer on the street ."
Sure. More on the street. More seniority than you, too. Be careful what you wish for, junior.
"do we need po's to deliver mail?"
Maybe not, but they also deliver guns and your one-bag dope pinch evidence to Homan Square.
Would you want to hand carry all the crap associated with your arrests?
(Or do you even make arrests?)
Anonymous said...
OT: anyone know when we're going to get our w2's? Seems like it gets later and later each year.
2/02/2012 11:15:00 AM
Go to work sometime! They were in on the 31st!
It;s truly amazig that the Supt. who has been here since May, still does not realize that he can put another 1,000 cops in 7 and 11 and these savages will still act up, it;s the law of the land and frankly I could care less about these folks in those areas. These shit holes will never ever get better, why becauyse the fine residents like it the way it is, and the good people stuck there want a free ride out, never mind working hard, having some pride and get out on their own.
059 marine unit could be next fasten your seat belts.
Everybody should know the facts before leaving posts on here! There are plenty of inaccuracies on here regarding DOA Police. To the poster with a brother at Southwest Airlines, First off, the Aviation Police title came in 2005 and not 3 years ago like you state! Secondly, The "AS" on the vehicles stand for "Aviation Squad" not security like you state! Thirdly, you are correct about DOA not having lock-up or processing facilities, when aviation officers have an arrest, other agencies facilities are utilized, however, you are wrong about the rest of that statement, Aviation officers have arrest powers and have used them over the years, also have done reports, attend criminal court when needed and write state traffic tickets! Fourth, Aviation responds to whatever calls they are dispatched to so im not sure where you are going with that 1! Please know the facts before posting! And maybe your brother should stick to his airline job! Thank you!
They know these old times will leave and that's what he city wants. Thanks for your service, now get the fuck out...
OT...blogger is busted again, can't view comments over 200 on a post.
K9 @ O'hare are making piles of $$$ with their in house overtime. one K9 officer i spoke with made over $150,000 last year!
Traffic unit busted up years ago after some were indicted.
Leftovers scattered to districts citywide.
25 year guy sent to 011, been awhile since he pushed a beat car if ever.
No sweat he said at roll call and went out 99.
First call he got was see the rape victim.
Arrives to find the rape victim dead in bed with offender with gun on the scene.
Had no clue how to handle any of it and was outta 011 real fast.
Good luck to the seasoned airport police if they find themselves evicted.
do you ever think some officer are hidden for a reason their worthless and are in units, inside, or some held on useless a mission car.
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??? Spell check my friend.
Who cares my life is not going to change
Commander Bucky Notsobright and Lieutenant Yellen Schitz must be in straight-jackets over this news!
Good luck!!!!!!!!!!
p.s. They were armed to start with until they had shots fired at a check point and were forced to disarm. They only qualified once a year to keep the peace officer status.
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Sorry, You don't know what the fuck your talking about..they have never been armed to date since inception back in 1987!
2/02/2012 03:53:00 PM
Have fun, and good luck...
To 9:01:00pm.....
It's usually civilians...po's handle evidence....you know chain of custody and stuff.....mush
O' Brien said...
The Aviation Police have been around since 1991 or 1992. Their first boss, or Superintendent, was Ira Harris, formerly a Deputy Superintendent
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I started out there in 1988 and I was in the 2nd or 3rd class... The Metro program was 13 weeks long. I believe Leroy O'Shields was in charge along with Ira Harris.. I'm a little foggy on that because neither of them stayed for very long. Rich Kuninki (spelling) and his side kick Jim Joyce Ran the show... Joyce was prob. assist Commisioner 20 or so years before his demise.
I am current CPD, former DOA. DOA are state certified police, but yes not all of them are qualified to be police (and at a higher percentage thsn CPD). There are also a lot of good professional officers who would love to have more responsibility and to stop being treated like children. They have had a high turnover rate because young guys get on, get disgusted with being glorified security, and are snatched up by the suburbs (already state certified= massive savings because they have already been through the academy). A lot are retired from, or as I was, waiting to get on CPD. They do make an occasional arrest, but have to hand it over to CPD.
I guess tuffy in 011 left the airports in just the right time.. oh wait thats right.. tuffy didnt leave, he was told to leave because everyone was tired of his tough guy attituide and "war stories". But, when your a guy like tuffy its just another day getting dumped from something.. sos, robbery teams, 008 tac teams, fugitive apprehension, a/1 mission team and the list goes on and on and on. Are the guys in 011 sick of you yet tuffy?? Or do those puds actually like your B.S warstories about "back in the day" yo yo yo kid!
sounds like you spend enough time around him to have nailed him. So why don't you tell him yourself? Why because he would knock your pussy ass out. He may yap a lot, tell the same stories over and over, but if the shit hits the fan you want him next to you!!
Can't we all just get along!! The new telephone tough guys, bloggers!!
It was Ira Harris' decision to NOT arm them. A lot of people tried to to persuade him to change his mind, but he was adamant that they not be armed. I never quite understood his thought process. Quite likely it was a political decision made above his level.
Harris was one of the most spineless CPD bosses I
ever met on the job. It's a miracle he was able to
even walk...what a freakin' jellyfish.
maybe hire the fat asses at O'Hare, who bark at motorists trying to pick up arriving passengers..."Hey, asshole, you can't stop there!"...."okay, then do the arriving passengers throw their bags into the car when I drive by?" Welcome to Chicago!
2/02/2012 04:39:00 PM
Oh how true. I had to pick up a family member at the airport(you know the arrival area). The person I was picking up wasn't outside yet so I passed as I was waved frantically and yelled at by the P.O.s to keep moving. I had to make 6 trips around the airport and back up to the arrival area until my family member was outside waiting. I stopped the car and low and behold a P.O. comes running up and says I can't park or stand there. My family member had to put one bag in the back seat and get in, so a matter of 20 seconds I was there. Again the airport P.O. starts yelling at me about parking. I told said P.O. that I'am a fellow CPD and inquired how am I supposed to pick up a person who just arrived at the airport in the arrival pick-up without briefly stopping the car to let them in. I joking stated that should I drive by slowly with the doors open and have them jump in. I saw the officer then standing behind my car as I was pulling away writing on his hand(my plate). A few weeks later I received a parking ticket. So my question to all you airport police who have it so rough, How do you pick up a person at the airport without stopping the car without getting attitude and a ticket from you. Signed a fellow P.O. who's been working the streets in a beat car for over 20 years not in a clouted unit.
2/02/2012 05:31:00 PM
If they don't want you to stand or stop there, why have a street there? Why don't they make a special place where you CAN pick up people and park for a few minutes?
Even in the winter in feb,zone 10 still blew up last night on first watch, great job by all that showed up and responded.
I said it before. If you are a patrolmen and you think closing units is good, then you are retarded. Good luck being in area 2 for 15-20years
Ive been in A/2 for 18 years anyway jaggoff because I dont have any juice like you.Units are and have always been a place to hide bosses kids!
Watch what you wish for. You should try working in the office, been there done that and got out it's not an easy job. Civilians aren't the answer maybe more automation.
You were hired as the police not a secretary! In my district the commander has at least 8 P.O.s working in the office. Fuck that, get civilians for 25K not police for 80K and it would help the guys who constantly get denied a day off. Either you want to be the police or go find an office job. And another thing, please spare us the office jobs are so difficult bullshit. People stay there because they are scared, period!!
The move will add some cops and perhaps free up regular CPD officers for street patrol.
In most cases I would agree. But the average time on the job for a copper at either airport is 25+ years and they are there because they have worked the streets and got tired of it.
We are going to see a shit load of retirements from the airports.
THIS IS THE SECOND BIGGEST MISTAKE THE TINY DANCER JOO BOY AND McDrunk SO FAR.
Wait til the see the invisible people and evacuate O'hare for 4 ir 5 hours with air traffic backed up to Moscow burning millions of dollars in fuel.
Nobody will fly thru Chicago and lose their luggage and sleep in the gutter.
The good news is that new runway will last a long long long time unused and I'll get some sleep.
Shoot a few tourists while your at it and we can shop at the new O'Hare MALL?
where you CAN pick up people and park for a few minutes
-They workd for Gary Schenkel
Hillards buddie who wasnt the police and isnt from chicago
Anonymous said...
Off Topic: RIP Soul Train's Don Cornelius...Not too many people know, but he was a Chicago Copper
2/02/2012 12:34:00 PM
False, just urban legend.
4:39P.M. The C.P.D. has not been responsible for curbside traffic in about 7yrs. At first it was City of Chicago Traffic Aides, next up and currently it is the Traffic Management Authority. Most of the Police could give a shit if you parked on the sidewalk!
Once again who cares worry about healthcare and your pensions if you are so easily distracted by this nonsense. I agree it sucks for people when they close a unit but we still have a good paying job with good benefits. The only thing we should be worried about is our health and pensions.
Sheriff's officials have been shown signed documents that purport to show 80% of Cook County suburbs support this back-door plan to eliminate 232 Sheriff's Police patrol officer positions that currently cost $19 million a year. This tiny fraction of the massive $4 billion County budget is the latest sacrificial lamb.
And yet the unwashed masses we deal with are given free (to them) medical care, the LINK card that acts like an ATM card, and the ability to live free from paying rent for up to 6 months at a time until the Sheriff's Police evicts them.
All subsidized by Mr and Mrs tax payer.
If the "big changes" people hear are gonna happen today, we in 025 have our fingers crossed that we get a new Dist cmdr...morale is the lowest it's ever been. Hope he takes that goof tact lt with him.
Anonymous said...
O' Brien said...
The Aviation Police have been around since 1991 or 1992. Their first boss, or Superintendent, was Ira Harris, formerly a Deputy Superintendent with CPD. The first groups received exactly the same training as CPD, with the addition of some hours relative to policing airports. They took the same state exam as CPD, and were quelified to carry weapons. It was Ira Harris' decision to NOT arm them.
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Not True. The airport police got the metro program which is half as long as the CPD program. Many in that first class were people who failed our screening process, drug testing, were fired from the CPD, or flunked out of the CPD recruit training. Yes they did get a State Certificate if they passed the state exam but those first classes were so bad they did not get a CPD certificate.
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p.s. They were armed to start with until they had shots fired at a check point and were forced to disarm. They only qualified once a year to keep the peace officer status.
2/02/2012 09:50:00 PM
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Well I'm sorry, but, without giving away too much, it is sufficient to say that I was around when they started and was very involved in some of the coordination with them and the Dept. of Aviation. Horris was quite insistant that they go through the entire CPD program, and as I said, they did with slight modification, even though most of us involved saw it as a complete waste of time and resources. He never considered arming them, but they all did receive state certification. I don't believe they were certified as Chicago Police Officers simply because they were not.
To the guy, 2/03/2012 12:47:00 AM, who said he was there in 1988 and went through the Metro Class and alludes to Leroy O;Shield being the boss, I think you are mistaken. I believe that pre-dates the Dept of Aviation Police and was actually some kind of security force that O'Shield dreamed up. I believe he was commisioner of Aviation at the time. I will admit that it might have been 1990, not 1991 or 1992 that they started. That was a long time ago.
Oh my! Where and when will Tim Have time to work out?
2/03/2012 03:20:00 AM
So false, at Ohare its all TMA's so I know you are a civilian puke. Secondly why the fuck would I let someone who I don't know stop under a structure at an Airport that is a target on a terror list? Right I'll just let you leave your vehicle packed with explosives under a suspended structure. Also try using that thing called the cell phone lot. I know it's hard but hey what the fuck do I know?
The bald headed harda** at rifle training should be next. Send that pud back to pushin a beat car.. its about all he is worth in this department.
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Wow, sorry your experience was bad. Did you fail? Most of us are pretty fair and patient. It can be a very tough class bot physically and mentally, but we are by no means forgiving on safety. Maybe you could narrow the group down since "the bald guy" narrows it down to 4. If you'll recall over 10 years ago on the range, you would be at front lean and rest if you asked honest questions. We are not the range instructors of old.
Good , more bodies in district patrol . More officers will have a partner , less 1 man cars and time due granted . Disband all the BS units , just keep tactical in districts , we can handle anything.
Here's a clue for the clueless.
Park in the cell phone lot until your party gets their bags and are walking out the door and call you on their cell phone.
To kill time play with you Ipad, Ipod, Iphone and get home stress free.
Its funny how a lot of you slam the aviation guys, a lot of them came from other less paying departments, served in the military during desert storm, iraq and afghanistan. Shouldn't be throwing stones from a glass house heros!!
its about time do a gets the recognition it deserves they are trained same as any police officer
Anonymous said...
That is 100% false! Take it to the bank! Aviation is not being armed! They are not trained as long as CPD! Aviation police are nothing more than security guards!
2/02/2012 09:35:00 AM
In that case does it mean that all the Suburban Departments that went through the academy with Aviation Police are also nothing more than security guards. Just because they have been treated like that doesn't mean they aren't trained or cannot do the job.
Anonymous said...
maybe hire the fat asses at O'Hare, who bark at motorists trying to pick up arriving passengers..."Hey, asshole, you can't stop there!"...."okay, then do the arriving passengers throw their bags into the car when I drive by?" Welcome to Chicago!
2/02/2012 04:39:00 PM
Oh how true. I had to pick up a family member at the airport(you know the arrival area). The person I was picking up wasn't outside yet so I passed as I was waved frantically and yelled at by the P.O.s to keep moving. I had to make 6 trips around the airport and back up to the arrival area until my family member was outside waiting. I stopped the car and low and behold a P.O. comes running up and says I can't park or stand there. My family member had to put one bag in the back seat and get in, so a matter of 20 seconds I was there. Again the airport P.O. starts yelling at me about parking. I told said P.O. that I'am a fellow CPD and inquired how am I supposed to pick up a person who just arrived at the airport in the arrival pick-up without briefly stopping the car to let them in. I joking stated that should I drive by slowly with the doors open and have them jump in. I saw the officer then standing behind my car as I was pulling away writing on his hand(my plate). A few weeks later I received a parking ticket. So my question to all you airport police who have it so rough, How do you pick up a person at the airport without stopping the car without getting attitude and a ticket from you. Signed a fellow P.O. who's been working the streets in a beat car for over 20 years not in a clouted unit.
2/02/2012 05:31:00 PM
If they don't want you to stand or stop there, why have a street there? Why don't they make a special place where you CAN pick up people and park for a few minutes?
2/03/2012 03:20:00 AM
I hope this is B.S.( Let us know the Star# of the issuing officer) The T.M.A.'s handle the traffic at O'Hare and issue tickets at the terminals. O'Hare has two free lots to wait at. The "Kiss and Fly" and the "Cell Phone".
Big command changes coming tomorrow. Lots of boxes being packed tonight!
2/02/2012 03:36:00 PM
Blah,blah,blah. Wish I had a nickel for every time I've heard that.
Sheriff's officials have been shown signed documents that purport to show 80% of Cook County suburbs support this back-door plan to eliminate 232 Sheriff's Police patrol officer positions that currently cost $19 million a year. This tiny fraction of the massive $4 billion County budget is the latest sacrificial lamb.
"And yet the unwashed masses we deal with are given free (to them) medical care, the LINK card that acts like an ATM card, and the ability to live free from paying rent for up to 6 months at a time until the Sheriff's Police evicts them.
All subsidized by Mr and Mrs tax payer."
good point......does the working class taxpayer even know what's going on?...and, do the section 8 folks vote heavy for the Democrats, and Obama?....just asking..
Anonymous said...
The move will add some cops and perhaps free up regular CPD officers for street patrol.
In most cases I would agree. But the average time on the job for a copper at either airport is 25+ years and they are there because they have worked the streets and got tired of it.
We are going to see a shit load of retirements from the airports.
2/03/2012 06:45:00 AM
Except for three really clouted ones at O;Hare
I doubt they have twenty firve years combined.
Dick Clark said...
Anonymous said...
Off Topic: RIP Soul Train's Don Cornelius...Not too many people know, but he was a Chicago Copper
2/02/2012 12:34:00 PM
False, just urban legend.
2/03/2012 08:22:00 AM
Anonymous
...Thank you to the poster for the condolences for Don Cornelius, creator of Soul Train. Yes, he was a Chicago police officer AND quite a legend, not an urban legend. He was proud to have hailed from Chicago and to have worked for the CPD, albeit a very short time. To the poster who claimed he was an urban legend, please get educated!
Nothing lasts forever, "It was a good run"....
I enjoy watching the cops at Midway, they are really busting their asses. It's very difficult to sit in baggage claim and read the newspapper all day.
this is not about man power this is about destroying the chicago unions..
remember that when they start training tma types to do your job for way cheaper..
Good , more bodies in district patrol . More officers will have a partner , less 1 man cars and time due granted . Disband all the BS units , just keep tactical in districts , we can handle anything.
2/03/2012 01:15:00 PM
Oh, you mean more time for you to dog out jobs. Plenty of cars up where I work. Plenty of cars not doing shit either. Enjoy your career in A/2, stroke.
The bald headed harda** at rifle training should be next. Send that pud back to pushin a beat car.. its about all he is worth in this department.
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Wow, sorry your experience was bad. Did you fail? Most of us are pretty fair and patient. It can be a very tough class bot physically and mentally, but we are by no means forgiving on safety. Maybe you could narrow the group down since "the bald guy" narrows it down to 4. If you'll recall over 10 years ago on the range, you would be at front lean and rest if you asked honest questions. We are not the range instructors of old.
The only way I can explain him is younger, bald, musclehead who thinks that he is teaching a class for navy seals. His tight black shirt and his khaki pants tucked into his boots like a fool not to mention he talks to fellow police officers like they are idiots... I did not fail the class and I dont think anyone failed.. and yes, I too am HUGE on safety.. its of paramount importance.. his attituide has nothing to do with safety, it has everything to do with personality and being a stroke. Every instructor in there was decent, personable and talked to the guys like it was one blueshirt talking to another blue shirt.. not like this moron talking to everyone like he is the real deal and everyone else is his little minion. I guarantee if he talked to people like that off duty on the street he would be getting his ass kicked by alot of people... cant stand hardasses on this job anymore. when the hell did coppers stop loosing their sense of humor????
To the guy, 2/03/2012 12:47:00 AM, who said he was there in 1988 and went through the Metro Class and alludes to Leroy O;Shield being the boss, I think you are mistaken. I believe that pre-dates the Dept of Aviation Police and was actually some kind of security force that O'Shield dreamed up. I believe he was commisioner of Aviation at the time. I will admit that it might have been 1990, not 1991 or 1992 that they started. That was a long time ago.
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That's Funny..I was hired and entered the Metro Class in Nov of 1988 and was one of the First classes of 50 Aviation officers hired that were hired off the street... Prior classes consisted of both fresh officers from the street and previous security personnel who were already emp. by DOA. I worked there for 3 Years until Nov 1991 when I joined CPD 18 Nov 91. My earlier statement was that I was unsure who was in charge whether Ira or Leroy neither of which stayed very long....non the less, The Aviation Security (police) started prior to my arrival in 1988.. There's one thing a copper Knows and that's his aniver. date!
In most cases I would agree. But the average time on the job for a copper at either airport is 25+ years and they are there because they have worked the streets and got tired of it.
there are p.o.'s at Midway who have been there for nearly 25 years!
So where will they go when they get dumped?? Can't hang out in the food court hitting on female passengers no more???
Lets face the facts cpd is changing (do more with less) if they close the airports on us what are we going to do ? So what let them. How many guys are left out at Ohare ? Stop bad mouthing DOA guys some of the officers that work there are cpd coppers sons and family menbers so stop already we can't change what is going to happen and some of us will never be sent out there to work either. Good luck DOA I hope they make you guys hole.. Just get along already we all work for the same place CITY OF CHICAGO.
The only way I can explain him is younger, bald, musclehead who thinks that he is teaching a class for navy seals. His tight black shirt and his khaki pants tucked into his boots like a fool not to mention he talks to fellow police officers like they are idiots... I did not fail the class and I dont think anyone failed.. and yes, I too am HUGE on safety.. its of paramount importance.. his attituide has nothing to do with safety, it has everything to do with personality and being a stroke. Every instructor in there was decent, personable and talked to the guys like it was one blueshirt talking to another blue shirt.. not like this moron talking to everyone like he is the real deal and everyone else is his little minion. I guarantee if he talked to people like that off duty on the street he would be getting his ass kicked by alot of people... cant stand hardasses on this job anymore. when the hell did coppers stop loosing their sense of humor????
2/03/2012 10:02:00 PM
Agreed. This kid is full of himself and thinks he's some kind of boy wonder because he did one hitch with the peacetime Marines. No one is impressed.
Anonymous said...
Here's a clue for the clueless.
Park in the cell phone lot until your party gets their bags and are walking out the door and call you on their cell phone.
To kill time play with you Ipad, Ipod, Iphone and get home stress free.
2/03/2012 01:34:00 PM
I never had a problem picking up family and friends at O'Hare. It is called common sense which some CPD seem to lack. Follow the rules and use some common sense. The officers in 050 have to deal with obnoxious people every day so why should we add to their misery? Same thing when ODPO's expect special treatment every day? Keep a low profile, and work around the problem. I used the cell phone lot or park on River road until the family member has their luggage and ready to go. Sometimes we are pur own worst enemy.
Funny how so many police officers are retiring, and are not being replaced, the city budget for the police remains the same for the same amount of officers.
What is happening to the taxpayer money that is budgeted for 13,500 officers but there are only about 11,000 officers? What is happening to the money that is budgeted for those 2,500 officers who aren't there?
Good question for which no answer is given by the mayor of Chicagostan.
Here's a clue for the clueless.
Park in the cell phone lot until your party gets their bags and are walking out the door and call you on their cell phone.
To kill time play with you Ipad, Ipod, Iphone and get home stress free.
2/03/2012 01:34:00 PM
Sorry, I'm not clueless. I didn't need to park in the cell phone lot since the person I was to pick up was ready. So my point was if that person is standing outside with bag in hand waiting to get picked up shouldn't I be able to pull my car over for 5 seconds to let them in without getting hassled and a ticket?
Oh how true. I had to pick up a family member at the airport(you know the arrival area). The person I was picking up wasn't outside yet so I passed as I was waved frantically and yelled at by the P.O.s to keep moving. I had to make 6 trips around the airport and back up to the arrival area until my family member was outside waiting. I stopped the car and low and behold a P.O. comes running up and says I can't park or stand there. My family member had to put one bag in the back seat and get in, so a matter of 20 seconds I was there. Again the airport P.O. starts yelling at me about parking. I told said P.O. that I'am a fellow CPD and inquired how am I supposed to pick up a person who just arrived at the airport in the arrival pick-up without briefly stopping the car to let them in. I joking stated that should I drive by slowly with the doors open and have them jump in. I saw the officer then standing behind my car as I was pulling away writing on his hand(my plate). A few weeks later I received a parking ticket. So my question to all you airport police who have it so rough, How do you pick up a person at the airport without stopping the car without getting attitude and a ticket from you. Signed a fellow P.O. who's been working the streets in a beat car for over 20 years not in a clouted unit. Have them go upstairs, and pick them up at the departures. Much easier.
Mary, Mary...where 'ya goin' to?
LOL...
The airport has one dumbass comander!
Yep they are closing them down,and mass transit,vice,narcotics everything! Enough hallucinating!
Also, neither CPD or APD does traffic at the terminals, that's TMA whose harassing everyone out here. They don't even let us stand to pick up someone. I have to call 050 to get permission so I'm not ticketed and towed. Then again look at the types of mush TMA employs
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