New Stars
The BOP directive is out, dated 03 February 2012:
- Each week the Human Resources Division will send out an AMFN fax message that identifies the distribution point and which units are scheduled to participate in the exchange process.
Supposedly, these are the stars with the RFID chip embedded in them (if rumors are to be believed.) Ten seconds in the microwave ought to take care of that.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
90 Comments:
word is that you will be required to show your hat shield when exchanging your star. not sure why?
yea SCC they say NYPD/CPD
they're NYPD shields
Won't matter if they put the chip in the stars because they will break and not function shortly after. Everything the CPD buys breaks or fails shortly after. PDT's work 50% of the time, CLEAR down 70% of the time, cameras don't function often, GPS fails, doors to lock-up broken for months, copiers and printers broken constantly, alarms going off in the station for hours on end, etc. etc. Hell, just look at the junk "news" stars we got a few years back. They are embarrassing with the letters and numbers missing on nearly everyones. I have been coloring mine with a black marker just to make it look respectable. This department is one big comedy.
what's a rfid chip
Sounds like a carcinigen to me
If you don't want to have to answer for your disabled or damaged star, you can buy RFID blocking wallet inserts for your wallet. But that will only help you off-duty. The microwave is a 24 hr solution.
Anonymous said...
OT. It happened again. Crazy 13th district Lt DS was accused of battering a PO. The CR was initiated. It's about time someone in this department takes care of this goof before another incident occurs Enough is enough
2/03/2012 08:44:00 PM
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When will the depasrtment realize thast this loose cannon of a Lt is a ticking time bomb and a threat to the safety of our P.O'S . Yep the jag Lt S committed battery to a P.O. and there was a C.R intiated & this time there were lots of witnesses. How can the Dept turn the cheek/ look the other way on this asshole a second time in a month. Thank God the P.O. kept a level head when and while being provoked by the Lt. The P.O. is a good kid and yet the commander does nothing and neither the Department. Lets see if he gets stripped now !!! or will violence in the workplace continue !!! STAY TUNED !!!
To put that chip in to track you they'd need a judge to sign a warrant for each one and update it every 30 days.
Freezer myself LoL Can always blame it on Chicago's Winters
No problem, I'll just make sure to leave my star at work in my locker when I'm not working. Come to think of it, maybe I'll just leave it in my locker all the time.
I understand that the new stars are not supposed to say police officer, they are supposed to say public safety officer, anyone know if thats true?
There is already the matrix online of who gets them when.
Dont't believe that chip rumor. Paranoia can destroy ya.
My star never leaves my locker its of no use to me off duty there used to be a day when it did but that was years ago. Im sure im not the only one.
Microwave? With embroidered stars, I only wear the star on St Jude Sunday.
Go ahead & put that star in the microwave.
Let us know the results, ok?
Is that so we can keep track of the Supe?????
RFID not rumor. It's a fact. Wife works in personnel.
Even though its a piece of shit id like to have my old star put in luicite...its my first one...but that will never happen
word is that you will be required to show your hat shield when exchanging your star. not sure why?
had mine replaced and asked for nothing but a signature and my old star, unless something has changed, doubt the will request shield.. also, I saw the metro depts stars when they got them,(made by same company), and they had a plastic barcode/chip applied to the back of their stars for gps, ours don't. I really don't ours have gps otherwise would have the same feature as theirs do. none the less, microwaving sounds good...
Under new law the department would have to get a warrant signed by a judge for everyone one of us every 30 days to track us using a GPS device. Soooooo False on the chip
It's not paranoia if they are really after you!
Waste of Money
Thanks Rahm
Hillatd wanted new stars way back look what it has cost us
they're NYPD shields
Ok They haven't changed NYPD Shields in over 100 yrs
Why need new stars again?
Where's our equipment?
New Cars?
New POs?
Laugh we are lead by Clowns
They've had em out awhile. The new ones are thicker and the center rises out alot farther.
I still like mine that's missing a lake and about more than half the letters. Has 'character,' just like the rest of the city.
Since I always leave my star in the station locker, does that mean that I can put in a slip for o.t since I never go home.
Anyone who thinks there are RFID chips in the stars or in much of anything else, certainly does not know a thing about RFID. You must also be looking the the " black helicopters" in the sky and believe in the new one world order??
RFID chips ...COOL!!
so pooki can now find all the coverts in the club..
RFID. Wrf is that?
the new star will have your precinct number on it.
So when there's a compliance problem the mayor and alderman will just send everyone down to the VET to get the implanted versions.
1984
Dont't believe that chip rumor. Paranoia can destroy ya.
2/04/2012 02:56:00 AM
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Just because you're paranoid, that doesn't mean the whole world is NOT out to get you
So we are going to subject our officers to even more radiation?
Don't matter to me. Since I have those star patches on my vest and coat I never carry my star. It's in my locker.
I've had mine since last fall. The middle sticks out further (rfid chip?) and the star is slightly thicker that the old ones. The letters and numbers are supposed to stay on better than the last star. Pin clasp is heavy duty also. They probably should have spent the money last time. The company that makes them is normally pretty expensive and I'm sure City said give us the cheapest piece of crap you have...and they did. Star still says Police Officer, Sergeant, ...etc.
I have been coloring mine with a black marker just to make it look respectable. This department is one big comedy.
2/04/2012 12:38:00 AM
I've been coloring mine since week one because it might be mistaken for a fake star!
Cheap ass city.
I have my doubts that the dept. can effectively track us using RFID. The maximum distance an RFID chip can be scanned is 300 ft.
Even if the city does get RFID readers, do you think they will work as designed? After all this is the same city that buys all of its equipment at military fire sales operated by a politician's relative.
The chip is true. It will work on the same premise as a Garvin. On the back of each star will be a code index. This number if accessed by the Dept. in the event of a lost or stolen star will give a location of the star.
I doubt very much that any of us are that important that the Dept will track us 24/7.
Unless they suspect your dirty.
You don't have to wear the actual star anymore so why would you?
And there are RFID blockers on the market now, go buy one.
Won't matter if they put the chip in the stars because they will break and not function shortly after. Everything the CPD buys breaks or fails shortly after.
True dat!
So a few years ago, they decided we needed to update the stars. Nobody liked the new stars. Try to find a person who takes credit for the decision. Nobody is talking.
Flash forward a few years and they are falling apart. Again, no one wants to take credit for these crappy stars. Here is the best part, we go back to the same manufacturer to replace them. We are paying them again.
"Hell, just look at the junk "news" stars we got a few years back. They are embarrassing with the letters and numbers missing on nearly everyones. I have been coloring mine with a black marker just to make it look respectable. This department is one big comedy.
2/04/2012 12:38:00 AM"
I leave mine just the way it is.
Indicative of this department,Decrepit& Unsightly
Daley's son has the contract for the new star.
WOW! New stars! Can I buy my old one, and have it put in accrylic, too? Super neato! I can start my own police collection. All of my memorabilia will be placed in my newly decorated bathroom, so when I take a dump I can be reminded of this crappy police department.
rfid to track is a bust. You would need readers all over the city to pick up the signal. Maybe for inventory purposes in manufacturing/shipping, or for scanning stars for authenticity, but nothing more. Think about dogs that have a chip, you must bring the dog to the scanner to read the contents. No different here, unless you see our stars now sporting a battery pack on the back. At that rate, GPS is more believable; however, you would need a constant power source to feed the transmitter, batteries will only last for so long. So unless these things come out looking like an arc reactor like in the movie Iron Man, no one should be concerned.
Anonymous said...
what's a rfid chip
2/04/2012 12:51:00 AM
Google it.
How do you people survive in this big, bad world, anyway???
Sheesh!
no truth to chip. they look the exact same as the one's we currently have, only heavier. i have one already.
"I understand that the new stars are not supposed to say police officer, they are supposed to say public safety officer, anyone know if thats true?"
--2/04/2012 02:48:00 AM
It's actually MPSC -- Multicultural Public Safety Coordinator.
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Dont be an idiot and put the star in the microwave You will ruin the microwave. Ever accidentally put something in the microwave that you did not know contained metal . You will know quickly
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Find an old Hi-Fi nut and borrow his bulk tape eraser. You can scramble the chip without sparking up your microwave.
what's a rfid chip
2/04/2012 12:51:00 AM
It is a paranoid delusion made up by people who think IAD give a rat's ass ( pun intended ) what they are doing or where they are going. I remember working with an old timer 10-12 years ago who refused to allow a pdt in the car because "they" can track you. Mind you, we never did anything other than our job, but the paranoia runs so deep in this City!
RFID's have been in your ID's for years now...did you guys microwave those too?
These new stars have been at 35th street for over a year now. I took my star to be repaired and they said I could just wait for the new one. There IS a chip in the back of the new star. It is not a tracking device. The star will be "activated" when you pick it up and "deactivated" should it be lost or stolen. It will be used for timekeeping. You will wave your star over a pad and it will record your time in and time out.
You can learn all about them by going to the Blackington star website. They are called "smart badges".
RFID chips are very similar to barcodes in the sense that a certain amount of data is contained within them, and then transmitted to a reading device which then processes and utilizes the information. The major difference is that barcodes have to be physically visible to the reading device, which is usually only able to scan them at a distance of a 12 inches or less. RFID tags, on the other hand, do not have to be visible to the reading device. They can be scanned through clothes, wallets, and even cars. The distance from which they can be read is also much greater than that of a barcode. At DEFCON an RFID tag was scanned at a distance of 69 feet, and that was back in 2005, the possible reading distance now is probably much greater than that.
There are a few different categories of RFID tags, but the most common ones, and the ones we will be dealing with in this instructable, are the "passive" type. Passive RFID chips contain no internal power supply. They contain an antenna which is able to have a current induced in it when within range of the RFID reader. The tag then uses that electricity to power the internal chip, which bounces its data back out through the antenna, where it will be picked up by the reader.
The main reason someone would want to block or destroy RFID chips would be to maintain privacy. In the last step I explained that RFID tags can be read from very long distances. The potential for abuse of this technology grows as more and more products and devices are being created with these tags built in.
Companies are getting consumers to blindly accept many RFID tagged products with the promise of convenience; however, most of the devices that contain RFID tags don't really need them. The tags may save a few seconds, but sacrifice an enormous amount of privacy and security. It is now possible for someone, with relatively simple equipment, to walk down a busy sidewalk and pickup the personal information of people carrying RFID tagged devices, without them even knowing.
Being able to block or destroy these chips allows people to decide what type of information they are willing to sacrifice for convenience.
"Companies are getting consumers to blindly accept many RFID tagged products with the promise of convenience; however, most of the devices that contain RFID tags don't really need them. The tags may save a few seconds, but sacrifice an enormous amount of privacy and security. It is now possible for someone, with relatively simple equipment, to walk down a busy sidewalk and pickup the personal information of people carrying RFID tagged devices, without them even knowing. "
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JUST IN TIME FOR G8.......so we could all be identified when the lawsuits come in.....!!!!!!!
You guys really are fucking mental!!!! STOP with the paranoia!!!!
To put that chip in to track you they'd need a judge to sign a warrant for each one and update it every 30 days.
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Just what I was thinking, supreme cort ruling remember? And fishing is illegal, just like the in car cameras pointed at officers. Cost is impractical
Make sure when you go to personnel to drop it off you ask for Mel Gibson. Boy you guys are so easy sometimes
Anonymous said...
If you don't want to have to answer for your disabled or damaged star, you can buy RFID blocking wallet inserts for your wallet. But that will only help you off-duty. The microwave is a 24 hr solution.
2/04/2012 01:12:00 AM
a single layer of foil works just as well, as those wallets are just aluminum. in fact, the inserts are basically just foil anyway. people seem to confuse passive RFID with GPS, which (for the most part) requires a power source. as RFID would be use to log in/out etc., it wouldn't need to be 'disabled' off duty unless you spend your free time at work. being tracked outside of work isn't an issue, but protecting whatever identifying info that is encoded on the chip from proximity sniffing could be... its not difficult to build a cheap device that can read an RFID chip on a person without physically touching them, although you have to come pretty close. if one were to then theoretically reencode that info onto a blank chip, one would not only have the original owner's clearance but could also create a false trail... the proxim sniffing has been demonstrated ages ago, using the RFID in most newer credit cards. like the CC companies, i guess some agencies find that saving four seconds is worth a gaping security hole. here is an old article from some silly cop blog...
http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2009/09/gps-badges.html
How do these rumors get started and why do people believe them?
The sky is falling!!!!
Put a fluorescent light bulb in a microwave and it lights up and eventiually it blows up too.
Cool!
if the stars are still made by Blackinton go to www.blackinton.com its called SmartShield
Anonymous said...
Even though its a piece of shit id like to have my old star put in luicite...its my first one...but that will never happen
2/04/2012 06:43:00 AM
I got both my old PO and Sgts stars in lucite when the the current stars came out. We had to pay for them. I'm sure they'd love to get some cash out of your star than nothing. Trust me... they'll be happy to sell it to you!
i cover car antenna with aluminum foil and wear aluminum foil under my hat , now i'm an XO
Even though its a piece of shit id like to have my old star put in luicite...its my first one...but that will never happen
If you want it that badly, then take the day for it.
very strong electromagnet in close proximity, or attached to it, for a short period of time is probably a safer way to disable the chip.
placed on a cookie sheet in an oven at 500 degrees for a hour would do it too.
My star never leaves my locker its of no use to me off duty there used to be a day when it did but that was years ago. Im sure im not the only one.
AMNEN I try not to let anyone know i'm CPD
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Um, just thinking about those who say they need a warrant to track the stars. I believe you are incorrect. The stars are tge property of the city. The city has a right to be able to track it's property, sane as a trucking company has a right to track it's trucks. Now I would agree with you if they wanted to place a tracking device in your weapon, because that weapon is your property, but the badge? That is theirs, no warrant needed
The book spychip has the answer:)
RFID won't work if mounted in a metal star. If you stick the star in a microwave, the microwave with burn out before it effects the RFID chip.
If you put two plastic RFID cards together it reduces the range to practically nothing.
You guys really are fucking mental!!!! STOP with the paranoia!!!!
2/04/2012 01:47:00 PM
I was never paranoid until I became certain people were talking about me, so stop it people!
i have been pulled over in 37 states. not one trooper believed i was the police once i flashed my current star. Cooter
To put that chip in to track you they'd need a judge to sign a warrant for each one and update it every 30 days.
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Just what I was thinking, supreme cort ruling remember? And fishing is illegal, just like the in car cameras pointed at officers. Cost is impractical
Really Retards?
"The user's database may contain information such as Badge ID or location..."
READ THIS NUMBNUTS!
http://www.blackinton.com/products/product_view/smartshield_system.htm
Schedule says 021 to pick them up in sept. I thought it was closing??
Someone will say it's for our safety. It can also be used at "big events" (G8/NATO) to track who's there and if a protester has a reader they can confirms they talked to you. Plus vehicles may soon have them, so as you approach the vechile it will be confirmed that you had contact with a motorist.
CNET News News.context
January 13, 2003 6:26 AM PST
Perspective: RFID tags: Big Brother in small packages
Could we be constantly tracked through our clothes, shoes or even our cash in the future?
I'm not talking about having a microchip surgically implanted beneath your skin, which is what Applied Digital Systems of Palm Beach, Fla., would like to do. Nor am I talking about John Poindexter's creepy Total Information Awareness spy-veillance system, which I wrote about last week.
Instead, in the future, we could be tracked because we'll be wearing, eating and carrying objects that are carefully designed to do so.
The generic name for this technology is RFID, which stands for radio frequency identification. RFID tags are miniscule microchips, which already have shrunk to half the size of a grain of sand. They listen for a radio query and respond by transmitting their unique ID code. Most RFID tags have no batteries: They use the power from the initial radio signal to transmit their response.
You should become familiar with RFID technology because you'll be hearing much more about it soon. Retailers adore the concept, and CNET News.com's own Alorie Gilbert wrote last week about how Wal-Mart and the U.K.-based grocery chain Tesco are starting to install "smart shelves" with networked RFID readers. In what will become the largest test of the technology, consumer goods giant Gillette recently said it would purchase 500 million RFID tags from Alien Technology of Morgan Hill, Calif.
all of these comments except for a few are mistaking RFID for GPS. this is not an issue of tracking, needing to get a warrant, stars being city property, etc.
...and its not paranoia to expect technology thats been commonplace everywhere else for a decade.
Um, just thinking about those who say they need a warrant to track the stars. I believe you are incorrect. The stars are tge property of the city. The city has a right to be able to track it's property, sane as a trucking company has a right to track it's trucks. Now I would agree with you if they wanted to place a tracking device in your weapon, because that weapon is your property, but the badge? That is theirs, no warrant needed
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That means the state could put a tracking chip in every state ID, driver's license, registration plate, I-pass, and law enforcement can access it, its state property correct by that logic.
what's a rfid chip
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There will be readers available to clock you in and out for time keeping purposes.
Also to open secured doors instead of using a key or card. It will also be used as part of the log in process on department computers.
All kinds of very useful things.
That means the state could put a tracking chip in every state ID, driver's license, registration plate, I-pass, and law enforcement can access it, its state property correct by that logic.
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What do you think an I-Pass is?
In any case, there is a huge difference between something required only in connection with one's employment, and a DL.
Passports have them these days.
Wow... RFID chips are not GPS! RFID are like barcodes that are read by a recorder of some sort.. IE opening doors or like swiping in at work.. Its like in the new stations the electronic key cards. You swipe them on the pad and they activate doors etc.. That is a RFID chip. Its not gpd. If it was GPS it would have to be powered by something. Unless they have you somehow charge up your stars or put batteries in them they are not gps. but it doesnt matter because they dont have RFID chips in them. Ive already seen the new star, no RFID, they would be put on the back of the star and there would be a plastic white bump on the back of the star. You cant put a rfid chip inside of the star. They pour our stars out of hot liquid metal when they are made.. If any hot liquid anything were to touch that chip it would melt instantly... dont believe the hype and paranoia.
There are no chips in the stars we ordered then from blackinton the same crappy company our last stars were ordered from the only difference is the city seal is baked in instead if painted on the star and the metal quality of the star is heavier. Instead of losing a random painted letter the entire center seal is likely to fall off because it is only glued onto the star. We did not pay that much more for these stars and in my opinion they are a complete waste of money. So for those of you spreading rumors about chips in the stars --shut the f-up because you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Make up rumors about something thy matters like hiring more officers.
2/4/2012 6:30am if your wife works in personnel and she told you that the stars have a chip she is an FN liar. The stars do not have chips they are from blackinton and they were only a step up in quality from the other crappy stars we have. The chips were not even a thought when we ordered them because they would go over our budget. Ladner made the final decision on this order. So do your self a favor unless you know what you are talking about zip it. Tell you wife she also needs to stop spreading rumors because she doesn't know what the hell she Is talking about.
i have been pulled over in 37 states. not one trooper believed i was the police once i flashed my current star. Cooter
2/04/2012 10:39:00 PM
Stop driving like a shithead and you done have to worry about it.
Ladner made the final decision on this order.
2/05/2012 03:02:00 PM
There are a ton of sworn exempts in the HQ Building. Why couldn't they have assigned one of them to the new star purchase instead of the goof Ladner? Yes, she is the head of HR, but she is a civilian that has outright contempt and no respect for the sworn culture and the new stars impact every, single sworn member on our department. Play-police sworn member Brian Murphy could have assigned someone else because he is Ladner's boss, but he is nothing more than a clout-heavy, political-climber without any balls. Thanks Brian.
. . .Just because you're paranoid, that doesn't mean the whole world is NOT out to get you
-Wish I could spend 9 hours in a beat car w/you. . . that is some funny sh*t! Still laffin.
Any news about this what he is doing now
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