Rahm v Schools Gets Ugly
It's nice to see someone giving it to Rahm as much as Rahm dishes it out:
Mayor Rahm Emanuel said Tuesday there's no truth to the contention made earlier this week that he'd given up on 25 percent of Chicago's students and said his actions speak louder than words.
[...] In a sit-down interview with NBC Chicago earlier this week, Chicago Teachers Union President Karen Lewis recalled a conversation she had with then Mayor-elect Emanuel.
"In that conversation, he did say to me that 25 percent of the students in this city are never going to be anything, never going to amount to anything and he was never going to throw money at them," Lewis said Monday.
Knowing Rahm's history in Washington DC and Lewis' contention that Rahm motherfucked her in a private meeting, we have no doubt that Rahm said something, if not exactly, then pretty near what Lewis is claiming. Rahm cares only about himself, his next move and what it takes to get to the next spot. And if that means writing off 25% of the Chicago Public Schools student body, then he'll do it.
Actually, we're surprised it's only 25% he'd write off seeing as how Rahm would gladly see 100% of the teachers union disbanded and 100% of the coppers unequipped for G-8 and 100% of firefighters eating cat food after they retire.
Actually, we're surprised it's only 25% he'd write off seeing as how Rahm would gladly see 100% of the teachers union disbanded and 100% of the coppers unequipped for G-8 and 100% of firefighters eating cat food after they retire.
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I won't fault Rahm for that comment, it's true. Actually, only about 50% graduate from the CPS system.
Less than 10% are successful in college
Rahm isn't lying about 25% of Chicago students not amounting to shit. If anything his projection is short by 3%.
This city is such a hot mess!
Oh, that 25% will be something. They'll be our IR#, and a waste of tax dollars wheh in prison.
Karen Lewis is as big a piece of shit as Tiny Dancer 9.5. I also think that the vast majority of the SCC readers would agree that, at least, 25% of the CPS students won't amount to shit. I agree with anyone who thinks the failed monstrosity that is the CPS needs to be aggressively pruned. It is not the CFD or CPD unions that are ruining this city. It is the elected officials and the likes of the teachers and street and sans unions that are the drain. It is absurd that a garbage man is making the same if not more than a police officer or fire fighter. It is absurd that a kindergarten teacher is making more than the first responders. We can't even get our act together when it comes to our own "union" let alone show support for other unions that by all rights are part of the problem. I hate Rahm Emanuel. But if he wants to go after the teachers and the truck drivers, I say have at it. And before anyone starts saying "if we don't stop him now we'll be next", give me one good example when we have been able to stop a Chicago Mayor from doing anything.
I think it's time for a march... Hint hint Shields. Maybe a combined CPD/CFD march before the G8? Maybe invite the Teachers Union too. The more, the merrier. Get some NRA/gun rights people to join in.
Karen Lewis is questionable.
Teachers need a better rep.
Had Karen Lewis known 9.5's ultimate motives at the time of their one-on-one meeting, I bet she would've beat the fuck out of that little bitch when he started bumpin' his disrespectful gums.
Beneath her consistently educated and professional public decorum lies (I believe) the 'Ghetto Switch' just waiting to be flipped. And I, for one, can't wait to see the fireworks show this broad brings to the party.
I only hope that whatever momentum she may start is followed in suit by the other unions (that's a hint, FOP). Maybe even a concerted effort between the 3 unions (CPD, CFD & CTU) is in order?? There'll probably never be a better or more appropriate time to join ranks and make the Fifth Floor Tyrant's life a living hell..
The Rahm is out to screw the teachers. Rahm wont put the blame for failure where it belongs on the parents of the children.
It make no sense to close the schools and fire the staff because the children are not learning unless you want to privatize the schools so you can get campaign contributions. what does the janitor and lunch room people have to do with education why fir them unless you are union busting.
Rahm is a prick he is srewing the teachers, parents, children and of course the police
Not that it will ever happen, but I'd wear a wire into any meeting with Tiny Dancer
I believe Karen Lewis. The Racoon has no morals. He lies even when he is sleeping. Fuck that conniving POS.
The CTU really put a fool in charge. I guess the FOP may have too.
I would really, really love to know which 25% he was referring to! Any guesses?
Twenty-five percent will never amount to anything eh?
Well I guess that depends on what your metrics are, how you measure success.
Right now I'd say that at least a part of that so-called 25% is running this city. Some of them probably have more clout with the city lawmakers than Rahm has and he don't see it and will never see it because he's living in his own little fantasy world.
In fact, the way this capitalistic system is going right now Rahm may be about to find out that everything that he once thought has value means nothing and by the time he's set to retire the known nothing kids will take his worldly possessions away.
There will come a time when the torch gets passed and they won't forget.
"In that conversation, he did say to me that 25 percent of the students in this city are never going to be anything, never going to amount to anything"
I believe Rahm never said that... Any one with half a brain knows the amount of these mutts never amounting to anything is way over 50%
Teachers should strike!
25% is being generous.
Rahm's kids go to private shool do they not? That itself speaks volumes. Where he lives, his kids would have to go to the shool at Foster and Damen I think.
Wake up, stop defending Rahm's opinion of ghetto kids.
Emanuel is a North Shore global elitist who thinks cops are in the same category as the minorities that he despises. He just needs their votes.
It's time to engage in mutiny against Chicago's corrupt leaders, I agree, an organized march before the summit/G8 would be a great time for it.
I actually agree with Rahm on this. Also, after her "Educational Apartheid" speech at Operation "TUSH" , she can rot in hell.
Where the fuck is Gary Chico? Is Rahm gonna have a free ride in the next mayoral election? I thought this was a democracy? Oh wait -- it's Chicago, home of the Machine, which Daley says doesn't exist. Meanwhile, I think someone should shave Rahm's head to see if there's a little 666 on the back of his skull. Hello?
Hey I agree w/ Rahm ... you can't be an astronaut little Johnny, you're too fucking stupid
Karen Lewis is as big a piece of shit ...
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You're right but so what? She's out there flapping her gums and the cameras are on her ....
She's winning
It's far more than 25%. But Rahm is still a POS toolbag regardless.
Mikey isn't gonna do anything. He is too busy selling us out.
"Anonymous said...
Teachers should strike!
3/01/2012 04:15:00 AM"
Test scores and Graduation rates would go up
I don't buy this for a second. I do think it's probably true that 9.5 does think that (or even a higher %), but no way in hell is he dumb enough to say something like that to Karen Lewis.
We all know rahm is right...But that's not the point....This is the mayor who's doing everything "for the children". now he's saying that 25% wont amount to shit.....And in that language???? I'm glad karen lewis ousted his shit bag comment. Rahm's a dirty little prick and the public needs to know it.... One term mayor and hopefully he'll go fuck some other city and state up.
Whenever this bitch mayor has a plan to screw the taxpayers out of their $$$ and put it into HIS pet programs, (eg. the sanctuary city, DREAM Act, CPS, etc), it's "ALL ABOUT THE CHILDREN".
Now he's basically saying the children aren't REALLY worth it.
Typical a**hole politician, talking out of both sides of his mouth and pandering to his audience of the moment.
I hope 90 days from now, we'll be reading accounts from the national media about how admirably the CPD handled the G8/NATO summits, but that MILLION$ of dollars of destruction in the City of Chicago can be DIRECTLY attributed to Rahm Emanuel's and Garry McCarthy's total inability to recognize and prepare for these violent events. Nothing would make me happier than to know that THESE SUMMITS will be forever remembered as the events that ENDED both of their careers!
Stay safe always!
Rahm knows the numbers. He also knows by reducing CPD and CFD manpower he will say millions, but at the expense of. Dead citzens, Cops or fireman. If it's the last 2 it's a win win situation with possibly a small cost. More one man cars and less fireman on a trunk. Closed fire and police houses. He's cold blooded and will do anything for the big prize,, the white house. He reminds me of that slimy character running for president in The Dead Zone. We can only hope he meets the same fate.
I believe that Rahm said that and probably more. The problem for teachers is Lewis is an idiot. I heard her interview on 890am and she should not be allowed to speak in public. The teachers are going to get their ass's kicked in this contract because Lewis is a joke.
As for marching around City Hall you are wasting your time. you could walk around that bunker until you get dizzy and pass out. Then the Racoon will emerge from his hole and walk over your prostate bodies and get into his limo and go home to his nest. The place to go are the ward offices of these spinless useless Alderfolls who suck up to this little conniving prick every day to get favors. These bastard Alderfools don't work for us...THEY WORK FOR THEMSELVES. Maybe a loud protest around the Alderfools houses would be a nice touch. Let these fucks know we are alive and pissed off. Block traffic and piss off their neighbors. Piss behind their houses and walk your dogs on their lawns. Fuck these self serving POS's!
I agree with 1229 am. Its time for a unified MARCH! Let's get this party started and show these asshole politicians we're sick of there shitcago way. Come on UNION earn that 500 bucks u take out of my paycheck every year.
SCC, maybe you could take a poll? How many readers children attend public vs. private schools?
And those 25% become politicians or appointed by one to run some agency or department in the public sector. All the smart and successful ones become small business owners, entreprenuers, doctors, nurses, lawyers, scientists, astronauts, cops, firefighter, EMT, auto mechanic, dentist,electrical or chemical engineer, etc..... you get the picture. "Know your politics or you will be ruled by your inferiors"
Karen Lewis is as big a piece of shit as Tiny Dancer 9.5. I also think that the vast majority of the SCC readers would agree that, at least, 25% of the CPS students won't amount to shit. I agree with anyone who thinks the failed monstrosity that is the CPS needs to be aggressively pruned. It is not the CFD or CPD unions that are ruining this city. It is the elected officials and the likes of the teachers and street and sans unions that are the drain. It is absurd that a garbage man is making the same if not more than a police officer or fire fighter. It is absurd that a kindergarten teacher is making more than the first responders. We can't even get our act together when it comes to our own "union" let alone show support for other unions that by all rights are part of the problem. I hate Rahm Emanuel. But if he wants to go after the teachers and the truck drivers, I say have at it. And before anyone starts saying "if we don't stop him now we'll be next", give me one good example when we have been able to stop a Chicago Mayor from doing anything.
3/01/2012 12:24:00 AM
You need to stop smoking. That stuff will come up in a piss test. Teachers are the drain? If you think you can go and teach and come across money easier than as a copper you're a nut job. I'm just talking OT and side jobs, I'm not even getting into medical and sick leave abuse. You should do yourself a favor and pipe down. The truth is government jobs (you didn't forget coppers are public employees to, did you?) are probably going to get you more in loopholes and ill policies here than almost any other city you go to. EVERYBODY has gotten a little something out of these bad policies except the people who pay into them but never got city jobs. I thought about being a teacher back in the day. ONE DAY of shadowing a friend killed that one for me. I gotta lot of teacher friends and I don't know of any of them making more than coppers.
I would write off 90% of CPS students...
The CTU really put a fool in charge. I guess the FOP may have too.
3/01/2012 02:28:00 AM
You're asleep. Lewis had given Rahm way more hell than Mikey. Mike's first success in the media (that I recall) was the riot helmets. Lewis got the city to back down off the extended days for this school year at least. She hasn't back down from him once and she's not afraid of him.
Does anyone find it unusual that Rahm would go and join the Israeli army instead of the American military when the Gulf War was getting ready to kick off?
Is that a divided loyalty or what? Should Mexicans join the Mexican army? Italians join the Italian army? Shoud the Greeks go running back to Greece in their time of need?
And this guy is now an American politician? Where are his loyalties? Will he vote to support Israel even if it is not in the interest of the United States? We already know he's an untrustworthy lying piece of Chicago political filth.
the number is more like 50%. he should be applauded for being honest.
They closed the beaches because it was too hot. You better believe that. The red light and speeding cameras are to protect the children. You better believe that.
Rahm doesn't lie or swear or talk down to people. You better believe that.
I agree that Karen Lewis may not be the best leader for Chicago Teachers Union but at least she's speaking out about what an asshole Rahm is.
He's on a mission to destroy the teachers union, our FOP and the firefighters union. He's a union busting, egotistical maniac.
I heard he wants to take the current collective bargaining agreement between the city and teachers union down to a 30 page document. It's currently 200 pages! What does that tell you about his intent?
He wants to set our unions back 30- 40 years.
We must expose all his antics to the public and media.
Perhaps he meant special education students. That number is better represented by the 25% than the others mentioned.
"In that conversation, he did say to me that 25 percent of the students in this city are never going to be anything, never going to amount to anything and he was never going to throw money at them," Lewis said Monday."
I don't care what multiculti stroking he does in public -- he knows the score. His kids go to a private school.
This doesn't mean that your taxes are going to go anywhere but up. I know the "charter school" thing encourages the creation of militant religious/racialist bastions among "Hispanics," for one thing -- I've not yet had time to read up on the money trail, though. This being Chicago, I get the feeling that it's something else we'll be paying for twice instead of once, with some Vanecko or other pocketing the difference.
"Actually, we're surprised it's only 25% he'd write off seeing as how Rahm would gladly see 100% of the teachers union disbanded and 100% of the coppers unequipped for G-8 and 100% of firefighters eating cat food after they retire."
...and somehow your taxes would still double, triple...
Satan walks among us.
12:24am...I disagree with you about saying that that teachers and sanitation workers deserve alot less than us and fire. The garbagemen are exposed to every kind of germ out there not to mention diseases, rats, needles, tetanus, hepatitis etc. Maybe a couple of bucks less an hour but not much. They take everything you put out, name a suburb that will do that- NONE. Teachers get to supervise and teach alot of little bastards all day within a confined space, we deal with them intermittently. Grow up before you start bashing others.
wasn't it rahm the one while in washington dc, go into the mens shower to strong arm someone ?
of course what he said abiout the 25 percent of students was correct,
What is Mike Shields (FOP Union President) connection to an Rahm supporter?
I heard the supporter donated a $100,000.00 to Rahm and employs Shields as a consultant. This could be a conflict of interest for us.
OT--but since this thread is about Rahm, it seems to fit.
Yesterday on WXRT, they had a news story about the Hubbard Street Dance theater doing something as a Tribute to Emanuel and his love for dance...
The next song Lin Brehmer played out of the report was....
"Tiny Dancer", by Elton John.
I applauded.
I don't buy this for a second. I do think it's probably true that 9.5 does think that (or even a higher %), but no way in hell is he dumb enough to say something like that to Karen Lewis.
3/01/2012 09:14:00 AM
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No, he isn't dumb enough; he sure IS arrogant enough to say it, though.
who's next to get a dead fish wrapped in newspaper?
Boy, you talk about "Rahm's 25% Failure Club"
1 dead, 1 hurt in Chicago school stabbing
Updated at 05:05 PM today
March 1, 2012 (CHICAGO) (WLS) --
"Classes were canceled at Infinity School Thursday after two students were stabbed by a classmate Thursday morning. One of the victims died.
"The second victim was seriously wounded, although the extent of those injuries has not been released. Police say a suspect is in custody. No one has been identified.
"Witnesses said the stabbing took place around 7:30 a.m. outside Infinity School, located in the 10200-block of South Crandon, as students were preparing to go through the security checkpoint to enter the building..."
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=8564975
These Daley/Emanuel "charter schools" are goin' wild. This "special needs" school is located in the former Goldsmith public school building at 10211 S. Crandon. Coppers up on the roof, coppers all over the place. There are only 25 students in the whole building and they have 15 staff members, and it still isn't enough to keep the lid on!
There are prison camps in this state holding 400 grown men, and I don't think they have 15 staff there at one time!
Rahm is on to something. But I say 70% won't amount to shit and of that 70%, 65 % will get incarcerated. Thus job security for us. So I say thank you CTU for helping produce all these past, present & future criminals. Oh also a big shout-out to ALL the minority parents who have helped pay my kids way thru catholic schools.
Rahm you are hated by just about everyone these days. Can't believe you would be stupid enough to make a statement like that. This is the kind of stuff that gets you dumped. Time to demand a recall and get rid of this egomaniac Mayor and his puppet for Police Superintendent.
karen lewis is an embarrassment
This evening on Chicago Tonight, the first twenty minutes was devoted to a new initative that Bill Clinton was in town to support. He and the Mayor want to use private funds to rebuild public buildings and infrastructure. The only problem is that public pension funds are also included in the funding (I bet the majority). This appears the way that they will try to tap public pensions. Clinton said that if Rahm gets city council approval every mayor in the country will call him for advice on how to do it in their local towns. His point man and a labor leader were in the studio to discuss the benefits. Beware of what they have planned. Somebody with more contacts needs to examine this. The FOP and our pension board members need to determine what this is all about and the process they will use to impelment this.
To 11:13 am, they are public employees. Go look up the salaries of the CTU members. In the CPS, a teacher is told what to teach, when to teach it, and how to teach it. Then they are given a big book with all the answers. On top of all that they get a cumulative of 5 months a year off. So don't fucking tell me they deserve the amount of money they are getting. And to 1:06 pm, you have to be some type of socialist to believe people who pick up garbage should be making the amount of money they currently are. Whether you like it or not, the reason they are garbagemen is because they couldn't get anything better for whatever reason. Just because their working conditions aren't idyllic doesn't justify them making as much as they do. According to your logic, janitors should be making six figures. How the fuck can you two idiots sit there and believe teachers and truck drivers in the city of Chicago should be making the same as first responders? Once you pull your heads from your asses you'll realize what we do for a living is a hell of a lot riskier and socially important than teachers and truck drivers. We don't get paid for what we do everyday. We get paid for what we may have to do everyday we go to work. $80,000 to drive a garbage truck? $80,000 for a 7 months out of the year babysitter? Get real and take off the socialist rose-colored glasses. Fucktards.
957pm. I'm a cop and was a teacher. I made more money in a year and a half of being on the job than with 5 years senority teaching. What's your highest degree? With a BA, it takes a teacher close to 7 years to earn 60K. The 80k you speak of, not a real number. I knew two teachers making 80k they 20 years plus and 2 masters degrees. Go bark up someone elses skirt dick. We all work for the city. -id like to see you teach for 1 day, you'll go crying to mama. A job is a job- apparentley your superman- you mean to tell me teachers don't run a risk of getting shot at work everyday? Really... At Least we can back each other up and are equipt to defend ourselves. (As much as possible).
Well if you think society can do without garbage men I am sure you think teachers are expendable.
Any one who has done either job knows they are worth what they are paid.
Look the people who run this city think of us just like the teachers and garbage men and think we are all over paid. The bastards who go the Ivy league schools that we could never afford to send our children to run it all. Guess we are in this boat with the other city workers and we must hang together or they will screw us all one at a time
I won't fault Rahm for that comment, it's true. Actually, only about 50% graduate from the CPS system.
That's true, only because they don't want to have 21 yr olds in the classrooms.
"Screw us all at one time..." June 30th to be exact!
Anonymous said...
Does anyone find it unusual that Rahm would go and join the Israeli army instead of the American military when the Gulf War was getting ready to kick off?
Is that a divided loyalty or what? Should Mexicans join the Mexican army? Italians join the Italian army? Shoud the Greeks go running back to Greece in their time of need?
And this guy is now an American politician? Where are his loyalties? Will he vote to support Israel even if it is not in the interest of the United States? We already know he's an untrustworthy lying piece of Chicago political filth.
3/01/2012 11:50:00 AM
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he's a dual citizen, that pretty much means he can disloyal to either .... personally, I don't think a dual-citizen should be allowed to hold office in the USA. You can't serve two masters.
@1224am- Put on your big boy pants and stop crying. If you dont like your job then quit but dont bash other public employees for what they make. Teachers need at least a 4yr degree to work in their profession, what do you need to work in yours?
Teachers get 5 months off a year? Sounds like fuzzy math to me. Do we take work home with us? No, we get paid time and a half if our work goes past the 9 hour mark, and usually thats alot of waiting around while waiting for others to do their job. What we do is way more important than what they do? If they don't teach, we get more ignorant assholes on the street. I wouldn't expect you to understand though, anyone who thinks they are clever because they can merge the work fucking with the word retard into fucktard is just plain fucknorant.
Emanulie was employed by the
same thieving, lying parasites who destroyed the housing market with criminal instruments such MBS, CDO's and MERS.
This investment banking scumbag worked for Wasserstein Perela & Company. This helped him hone his skills to perpetrate the theft of the greedy to jam the truly needy.
He embraces Race to the Slop and Common Whore Standards and the recent skanksters get out of prosecution free bailout like the Mafia embraced Murder Incorporated.
To Hell with him and all his acolytes. To Hell with whomever taught them.
9:57PM,
This is 11:13AM. You coulda just listened to me and then 12:17AM wouldn't have had to rip your argument to shreds with firsthand experience. The funny thing is you say people are garbagemen because they couldn't do anything better but people used to (and some still do) say the EXACT same thing about coppers. You wanna know what made me wanna be a copper? My old man took a few college classes but nothing major. He made so much more money than my mom with her degrees it was ridiculous. In fact, that was my major argument when he begged me to stay in school longer (though I listened and finished). That and the fact I loved the military, well this was the next best thing. Say whatever you want, and be as blind as you want, but college grads and graduate degree holders are applying to be coppers like never before. Why? Because despite the craziness of the job, the pay is much better and you get increases much faster than most of other jobs out there. And I know cuz I had one and the pay was an insult. I worked hard, got no comp time, exemp from overtime and was way overqualified for the job. One of my buddies spent one summer working CPS and had to pay back all his teacher scholarship money because he refused to do that for a career. What did he do instead? Copper. You can say what you want but you know the house mouse and hardcharger get the same base pay and you will not find people able to abuse the system and get paid like they do outside of taxpayer funded work this coming from someone who has done government work at the federal and local level and non-profit.
Listen, when I say teachers and garbagemen are less important than first responders (especially police) I am talking about the complete breakdown of society. In this breakdown it is more important to have peacekeepers than teachers and garbagemen. Now that we've cleared that up let's move on. A teachers risk of being shot everyday is the same for everyone else in civilized society with the exception of first responders. To say otherwise is ludicrous. If in fact it is higher, then they should all be made to wear body armor. As far as not lasting a day of teaching, you really think that low of the typical LEO that he couldn't do the exact same job with the same results as the CPS? That's on you. To switch focus, take a look at streets and sans. Again, I'm not saying unnecessary. I'm saying someone who drives a truck around picking up garbage should not be making anywhere near first responders. What you have to realize here is too many unions will be the downfall of this city/country. What do you think was a big part of the McCormick Place fiasco? You had to hire an electrician to plug into a wall socket for christ's sake. I am in full support of our "union" and fire's. But we cannot hitch our wagon to a union conglomerate. There are many things wrong with every department in this city. I would venture to guess 50% of the "leaders" here should be indicted. It's not a perfect world, but it is my belief that some of the fat that needs to be trimmed is in large part due to the overinflated wages of the CTU and streets and sans. Before I go, I can't take credit for inventing the term fucktard. That wouldn't be right. But thank you anyway.
"...a new initative that Bill Clinton was in town to support. He and the Mayor want to use private funds to rebuild public buildings and infrastructure. The only problem is that public pension funds are also included in the funding (I bet the majority). This appears the way that they will try to tap public pensions. Clinton said that if Rahm gets city council approval every mayor in the country will call him for advice on how to do it in their local towns..."
--3/01/2012 08:51:00 PM
Everyone will call Mayor Daley and his son Patrick. They have offices downtown for exactly the "consulting business" of teaching other cities to "privatize" this, sell off that -- "sell off their birthright for a mess of pottage," as it were. Expect him to be point man...oh, with a "referral fee" back to Emanuel and Clinton's "favorite charities," of course.
To 934pm The counrty needs unions and so does the city. If places like mcormick place didn't have union rules-who would be doing the work? You got it, illegal immagrants for a dollar an hour, or some extremely over paid consultant buddy of the clout! Some union rules are rediculous, but that can be solved. Again, you think this job is more important than Anytyhing else. .. explain this to rahm because unless I m wrong he goes out of his way to ensure we have what we need and supports us!
I will not buy into this fucktarded arguement until the city stops over paying consultants(friends), selling off its responsibility, and stops paying off every single ghetto lottey ticket. After all that, then we can talk about "trimming the fat" as you say-across the board. We are first responders because we chose to be, you can't say the job is more important than any other. They all have a place in society in order for it to function. By your logic, obama should be making way more money than the highest paid sports player! Is the presidents job more important than First responders? jobs do not receive equal pay for risk. As soon as you come to grips with that, the better you'll sleep at night.
To 11:01 am
"...Unless I m wrong he goes out of his way to ensure we have what we need and supports us"!
You expect me to take your argument seriously when you are of the belief that Rahm Emanuel goes out of his way to ensure we have what we need and supports us? If this is true, I hope you and all of your siblings are sterilized because this world cannot afford to have creatures like you procreating.
Back at you 11:08
Guess you missed the sarcasm lesson. You graduate from the CPS? Or did you graduate from liberal media press school because your an expert in taking text out of context. Then you go attack my family- sure sign a person lost an argument.
And a good day to you sir.
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