School Strike Prep
The Chicago Teachers Union polled its 25,000 members Thursday on questions involving the school board as part of what one official called a "dry run" for a potential strike vote.
Union officials said they undertook the poll in part to figure out logistics for a strike vote if negotiations with the district break down. Under a state education reform passed last year, the union would need to get approval from 75 percent of its total membership before a strike could occur.
What with Rahm's latest Springfield tactics, we imagine this is going to go forward. Funny how Shortshanks kept the teachers in line by lying, promising them the world, passing the buck to Springfield, and Rahm can't keep up the pretense for a full year before a strike vote is going to go down.
This gives a few of our readers a bright idea - what if a certain Fraternal Order took an informal poll? Something along the lines of this:
- Although the FOP is not allowed to strike, and any advocacy of a strike is grounds for immediate termination and dissolution of the union, would you, as a Chicago Police Officer, vote for a strike if the opportunity was granted to you?
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
75 Comments:
For copper strike being a 25 year vet I would vote 110% YES!!
yes
Is there an option for "hell yes"
I vote 'Yes' for a strike.During the NATO Conference..
No.
I's say strike faster than an umpire calling out Giovanny Soto if I could. But I can't, so I won't.
Since the day I was hired I had planned on retiring on my 50th birthday. I've been making plans and looking forward to moving on from this Democrap hell hole of a State. If they make me stay an additional 5 years I will seriously lose my mind and possibly become a liability to myself and definitely to this city.
I didn't create this problem. I did what I've been told to do and them some. I swear to God, things will get ugly if this asshole Rahm's plan goes through. These thieving aldermanic scum should all be publically hung along with Daley. They'll be sitting on nice fat pensions without ever having suffered an injury on duty, much less the sheer stress of dealing with ghetto domestics for 20+ years!
Way to stand up for us there M.K. Shields. Just cave immediately and say "yes master" to these politicians. Fuck every one of you lame brains who voted against Bella, who had the knowledge and the balls to at least TRY to do something about this. Now he retired and we are left with this ignorant yes man! What a terrible, terrible mistake that will haunt this Department for decades to come. Nice job!
There are days I can barely walk due to past IOD's and I'm still early 40's. Now I have to worry about this shit? I'm beyond disgusted. And the absolute worst part of it is, the only thing I can do about any of it is bitch and moan on here cause Rahm's going to get his way and there's nothing we can do about it.
I say yes to a strike. The power of a stike is not to hurt he employer but is used a slast resort to get the attention of the business and the public that there are serious wrongs being done to the workers. A good example is the cataplar workers who went out when the compnay called for no raises for the workers for SIX years. Im sure that Cat apliar will not raise the oprice of their equipoment in the next six years, yeah sure. The workers in my opinion had no choice but to walk. If we did strike I think that our rreasonable demands would be quickly met. We are not asking fro the world but for a fair and just wage.
Nope. Sorry, call me a sell out but I was raised to honor my word unlike the dirty f*cks in charge who have violated the contract left and right and then left again.
YES! (From 15 YOJ)
•"Although the FOP is not allowed to strike, and any advocacy of a strike is grounds for immediate termination and dissolution of the union,"
As long as the collective bargaining agreement remains in place. You can't get 4,000 Officers to mail in a friggn FOP Ballot. Strike? keep on dreaming
YES!!!
I would vote YES in a heartbeat. I've always wanted to strike.
And who says the FOP can't strike?
If they can break the law and take our pensions, then we can fuckin strike.
And FK U George Clooney who helped raise 15 million for ObamaRhama. Hope you turn old and ugly fast.
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Yes i would strike but i have a back up money maker. I can't say that for everyone else. I don't understand how teachers get away with going on strike. Aren't they civil servant workers also. Not that I don't think they should. I've said since day one, 16 1/2 years ago, I'd strike in a minute. They couldn't fire us all. Hence the word union, United we stand.
Dad was a teacher. I will either be walking the picket line with them or I will be supplying the bottled water and snacks, but I WILL be with them, supporting them. Thank goodness I'm retired, too, SCC. ;-)
yes
It's strange how an organization that supports the murderer of a police officer can find supportive words on a police blog. So in that regard, speaking of the Chicago Teachers Union and a "tremdous slap in the face"...
Apr 20, 2012
WASHINGTON, D.C. – The memo has gone out, the date has been saved.
This coming Tuesday, radicals of all stripes will descend upon the U.S. Department of Justice in Washington D.C. to rally in support of convicted cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal.
Organizers are hoping to speak with U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder about why Mumia should be set free. They’re also planning acts of civil disobedience to draw media attention to their cause.
Among Mumia’s many well-wishers in the K-12 community is Milwaukee Teachers’ Education Association President Bob Peterson, the entire Chicago Teachers Union , and the Rethinking Schools crew who produce anti-American lesson plans and teaching materials that are used in countless classrooms.
Entire 1st Watch, YES!
Yes
Yes, Yes, and H**l yes! Thats 3 votes the Chicago way
No. i took an oath not a job. i'm not a fireman, a teacher, or a scumbag politician who goes back on their word.
Since the day I was hired I had planned on retiring on my 50th birthday. I've been making plans and looking forward to moving on from this Democrap hell hole of a State. If they make me stay an additional 5 years I will seriously lose my mind and possibly become a liability to myself and definitely to this city.
I didn't create this problem. I did what I've been told to do and them some. I swear to God, things will get ugly if this asshole Rahm's plan goes through. These thieving aldermanic scum should all be publically hung along with Daley. They'll be sitting on nice fat pensions without ever having suffered an injury on duty, much less the sheer stress of dealing with ghetto domestics for 20+ years!
Way to stand up for us there M.K. Shields. Just cave immediately and say "yes master" to these politicians. Fuck every one of you lame brains who voted against Bella, who had the knowledge and the balls to at least TRY to do something about this. Now he retired and we are left with this ignorant yes man! What a terrible, terrible mistake that will haunt this Department for decades to come. Nice job!
There are days I can barely walk due to past IOD's and I'm still early 40's. Now I have to worry about this shit? I'm beyond disgusted. And the absolute worst part of it is, the only thing I can do about any of it is bitch and moan on here cause Rahm's going to get his way and there's nothing we can do about it.
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Hey furious, Switch to a CityWide!!!
for many years, no strike....but now, yes, even but for a few hours; it's time
To the asshat saying all teachers support mumia...
Drinking the MSM kool aid? Sure, we have jagbags like yourself in our organization, but I'd say far more of us CTU members support CPD than that asshole.
You should be more worried about Rahm's sodimization of the unions and try to stick together with us on this one. We have the option of strike, and if we do it'll help all unionized city employees when we give 9.5 that finger he's missing.
I wish I can recall my Vote for Mike. What was I thinking? Greg, I am sorry for not having the faith in you that I should have.
all city workers should strike then let raccoon deal with it.
Heard that more than 6,000 BoE employees, mostly teachers, have submitted papers to retire this year. This could pose a significant problem for administrators, maybe some of them would even need to begin teaching! Can anyone verify.
We can't strike but we sure in hell can Sloooowwww DOWN. Just as effective. Cut off the money stream of tickets and tows. that is how you get the attention of the Racoon. $$$$$
Great idea. Spend 30k on a poll that doesn't mean shit. Maybe the PBPA should pay for it.
Hold on boys. We don't work side jobs because we are wealthy. How many of us live paycheck to paycheck? Any picket line would never last. Not to mention that you wouldn't have a job to go back to and you would forfeit your pension on top of that. Cooler heads need to prevail.
Can you run one on here SCC?
Fuck Yes!! cause if they plan of changing pension reform, might as well quit cause this job will be worth ZERO!!
And FK U George Clooney who helped raise 15 million for ObamaRhama. Hope you turn old and ugly fast.
5/11/2012 01:22:00 AM
He already is--I see nothing attractive about that man. He's been upstaged by a lot younger studs out there. What surrounds him is media hype. He's gray and old and a has-been. He won't be doing a lot more movies. Lot hotter guys in La-La-land. Notice he's playing 'Dad' roles now. He's a fuckin' turd--I'd rather jump Chewy (Chelsea Lately) than him! Well, you get the idea.
How many of us would be able to keep up mortgage/tuition payments during an extended strike? How many of us who can afford to do so would be willing to dip heavily into our retirement savings to do it?
Seems like we'd be cutting off our nose to spite our face.
I vote no!
no pension no work!
We may not be able to strike or advocate a work action. BUT, we can exercise discretion and verbal warnings instead of tickets for parking, moving and ANOV violations.
We did that about 20 years ago and the city lost millions of dollar.
yes
The city breaks our contract and the politicians steal from our pensions.
Then I'm on strike! Its called no activity!
Fuck off Rahm and Mc stupid!
Da Pelon
I say strike! The ugly ballerina does not believe in contracts, so in theory we wouldn't be doing anything wrong.
Yes I would strike. Like I have said before.... could you imagine the blu flu from 19 thru 21st of May! LMAO Rahm would stump his other fingers from knawing them off!
Referendum for term limits for all these walking rats called alderman and the king rodent, Rahm...Can we sue for breach of contract? The city has shown no honor to it's contractual obligations therefore we should at least send a message we are united.........for once. STRIKE if we could.
SCC, You have not really thought this one out. Since we can't strike and will be fired immediately if we do, why would anyone say "no" to this "advisory" poll? The poll anser will likely be 100% in favor of a strike we cannot do. Meaningless.
hell F'n YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"A couple of voices from Mayor Emanuel's 'education reform' choir are up in arms because some public school teachers are now talking seriously about the possibility of a teachers' strike in Chicago later this summer."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-farmer/chicago-teachers-strike_b_1504773.html?ref=chicago
isn't that a lot like voting for the sun to rise in the west tomorrow if it could?
yes
first lets strike /boycott clooney films
I remember when I first came on the job and the coppers did slow down. We couldn't strike, but we didn't write movers or parkers and some even came down with the Blue Flu.
when i first came on this job 26yrs ago we were promised many things,they put them in contracts they made a constitution promising everything will be there when we retire. and all we had to do was do are jobs and survive long enough to get all that was promised and that we earned over a long a tough career, well i did all i was suppose to do and then some, over the yrs i lost my marriage of over twenty years had broken or dislocated many parts of my body all for my dedication to duty,city and even our mayors,only to be told after all these yrs and all i went thru and put my family thru that now i'm near the end that all that was promised will now be taken away and that i may not be able to retire beacause of possible cut in pension reduction and benifits taken away ect.ect. then if they are going to break the law and the state constitution thaen they force me to do the same and strike and to stay strike until we keep all that was promised to us and all the policmen that took forever to get, i took an oath like everybody else but so did they so if they break their words then we should too. strike!!!
Yes. These asshats dont realize their in this mess because of what they didnt do. Now u want to screw us? They meaning city hall will never stop screwing us until we stand as one. This is our lives their screwing with
sorry NO STRIKE.....couldn't live with myself knowing how many buttholes would take advantage of an already victimized public
Way to stand up for us there M.K. Shields. Just cave immediately and say "yes master" to these politicians. Fuck every one of you lame brains who voted against Bella, who had the knowledge and the balls to at least TRY to do something about this. Now he retired and we are left with this ignorant yes man! What a terrible, terrible mistake that will haunt this Department for decades to come. Nice job!
There are days I can barely walk due to past IOD's and I'm still early 40's. Now I have to worry about this shit? I'm beyond disgusted. And the absolute worst part of it is, the only thing I can do about any of it is bitch and moan on here cause Rahm's going to get his way and there's nothing we can do about it.
5/11/2012 12:32:00 AM
But there WAS something you could've done about it, hardass. YOU could've run for an FOP office and brought your vast political and financial knowledge to the table to singlehandedly make all these pension woes a moot point.
For someone that claims 20+ years OTJ, you sure are pretty naive to think any one person can ruin or save the state of our pension or has the ultimate say-so in contractual issues.
As far as M.K. Shields being a "yes man" --- nothing can be further from the truth. If you attended FOP meetings, read the newsletter, watched the news or read a paper, you'd see that Mike has been the most vocal president since you came on the job. He's been quick to rattle cages and call "bullshit" on things borne of both the Daley and current administrations, things your hero Bella failed to do during his tenure as a board member of your union. If someone was in the pocket of the mayor, they sure as hell wouldn't publicly lambast his "Enron-style accounting" practices.
And speaking of Bella, why don't you ask him about the overpayments to his lawyer buddy - overpayments paid by YOUR union dues.
Obtuse fellas like yourself seem to think things like pension reform and strategy sessions happen overnight. You're completely ignorant to the depth of and processes involved in the issues our union has to navigate daily in our best interests. For someone approaching midlife, you sure seem more cut from the Generation Y instant gratification entitlement cloth.
Instead of whining anonymously on a blog about something you know little about, get involved. Educate yourself on the issues that effect us all and then get on board and direct some of your misplaced energy towards the greater good of our union.
But I know your type. I've also been on this job for over two decades, and know first hand that most coppers that came on the job during this time are all bark and no bite. Most talk a great game, but few step up and put their money where their mouth is when it's time. And probably the most damaging aspect of this fact is that these people now dominate the supervisory ranks - but that's a topic for future discussion.
Yes, I marched around City Hall. Yes, I was on one of the busses that went to Springfield. Yes, I was at the pension board when Huberman was confronted. Yes, I do regularly attend FOP meetings.
I'd rather get informed and get involved than anonymously and indiscriminately point the finger of blame from behind the screen of a computer.
UNITY FUCKERS. UNITY.
We don't have to strike, just a work slow down.
Have some BALLS coppers. WTF.
We are doomed.
yes!!
If all the cop "worker ants" just refused to do any work...tickets, real patrol, and anything else that generates money and arrest we could bring this little midget fuck to his knees. The only power the Racoon has is what WE give him. He is a great poker player. He rules by intimidation. Call his bluff. Go to work...get in your car...and just answer your calls. Do it slow and take your time. The Fuckheads at City Hall will get the message. They can't and won't fire anybody. By law we can't walk out and go on a picket line. But we sure can go slow motion and get our point across.
Do any of you fucking dimwits ever think anything through? A slowdown that results in a loss of revenue plays directly into the City's hand. It makes its claim of being broke even more valid. You want to make a point? Hammer the shit out of union drivers like beer trucks, semis, ups, etc. Have em lined up outside the station as tvbs. I guarantee those unions would be on the mayor's ass like white on rice. Plus its hard to do anything else while you're down on traffic. All while revenue keeps pouring in.
My dad was a paramedic, I can still remember the fireman's strike. That was the only way my uncle got to be a fireman. To this day he is still called a scab. Thought I was young, my dad told me what they were striking for. I never joined but always respected cops, firemen, paramedics and teachers. You guys are getting fucked in the ass no lube about this pension bullshit. Why do politicians even get a damn pension for a part time gig in the first place? And they can increase it based on a gig that last a month, and they can get another six figure gig on top of the pension? And they can sit on a board and collect more money? All legal, unethical but legal. Daley and his family are laughing at all of us. And many of you thought Harold Washington was going to be a problem?
yes 20 yrs
How about a bout of Anarchy/Occupy Flu ? seems there can't be anything illegal or against the contract if you are simply sick for a day or so???
Here is the best part about CPD on strike, we would only have to strike for about 2 hours or less to get the point across.
YEP!!!!
I have always honored my word....I also honored my word years ago when I married...but someone else did not & I did what I had to do for my kids!! Well looks like the city is not keeping their word & it's again is harming my family!!! Fair is Fair!!!
No
Nope. Years of pension payouts to the city and others costing us a fortune. Frauds all of them. I've got iod's and lots of pain. Attend a Fop meeting a lot different now. Walk in unity around city hall again. Show a united front.
Hey guys, it's a moot point (look up the definition), just remember what Reagan did to those air traffic controllers when they went out on strike...be wise and find a way.
It's strange how an organization that supports the murderer of a police officer can find supportive words on a police blog. So in that regard, speaking of the Chicago Teachers Union and a "tremdous slap in the face"...
Apr 20, 2012
WASHINGTON, D.C. – The memo has gone out, the date has been saved.
This coming Tuesday, radicals of all stripes will descend upon the U.S. Department of Justice in Washington D.C. to rally in support of convicted cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal.
Organizers are hoping to speak with U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder about why Mumia should be set free. They’re also planning acts of civil disobedience to draw media attention to their cause.
Among Mumia’s many well-wishers in the K-12 community is Milwaukee Teachers’ Education Association President Bob Peterson, the entire Chicago Teachers Union , and the Rethinking Schools crew who produce anti-American lesson plans and teaching materials that are used in countless classrooms.
5/11/2012 03:18:00 AM
That's the second post with news reported in the media regarding the Chicago Teachers Union backing politically divisive cause. First it was the occupy protestors, now this. They have a right to believe what they want to believe, however they should only be able to do this in their private lives. No union should back any socially divisive cause. That's not what union members pay dues for. I personally think the teachers unions need to be separated from all other pension plans. They are a major cause for the drain on state and municipal pensions for other city and state workers who already have challenged pension funding. On top of that they are teaching our children to fight for ridiculous causes. That is not their job to pass on private personal beliefs. It's inappropriate and irresponsible.
To the asshat saying all teachers support mumia...
Drinking the MSM kool aid? Sure, we have jagbags like yourself in our organization, but I'd say far more of us CTU members support CPD than that asshole.
You should be more worried about Rahm's sodimization of the unions and try to stick together with us on this one. We have the option of strike, and if we do it'll help all unionized city employees when we give 9.5 that finger he's missing.
5/11/2012 06:21:00 AM
Sorry Teach, you guys allow your unions to support these nefarious causes. There is no way that CPD is going to be sticking with you guys for this reason amongst others. You guys are not on this side of the fence and will use any opportunity to trash the police during interviews. Maybe you ought to talk toyour union leaders about changing the climate of extreme liberalism? The world needs SOME order and lawfulness. Teach THAT to the children and forget your strike.
There's more that you can do than bitch, vote these assholes out of office. Take their income away
Strike? NO. You took an oath. Stand by your oath. If you cant then leave the job. It does not matter if others viiolate their oaths, it only matters if YOU do.
yes
Strike? NO. You took an oath. Stand by your oath. If you cant then leave the job. It does not matter if others viiolate their oaths, it only matters if YOU do.
5/12/2012 11:01:00 AM
Good grief, this isn't a vote to strike; the question was would you vote to strike if we were legally able to. It's got nothing to do with violating your oath. (I don't remember the part where we swore not to WISH WE COULD strike, though.)
A no strike clause is worth the same paper our pension was written on.
Teachers should be banned by law from striking as all public employees should not be able to strike. Go to binding interest arbitration. Only teachers think that , despite recessions and near depressions, they are entitled to a raise and improved benefits every year. Lts have a study to see how much time teachers actually spend in the classrooma and " preparing lesson plans", not what they claim to be spending.
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