Time Due at CompStat
Evidently, McDumbass has been ripping on exempts for "allowing" people to use time due, especially on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. He and his people have come up with numerous examples concerning percentages of officers taking the day off and he is not happy about it.
Hey McAsshole, Time Due isn't a gift. We earned it. We did the City of Chicago a favor by not taking cash overtime money, instead, opting for time off at a later date for the extra hours we spent here serving and protecting, many times to the detriment of our family situations.
And another thing - the rest of the world doesn't really operate on the CPD schedule. We run 24/7/365. The rest of the world gets off on weekends and that's when they plan family events, large parties, gatherings and celebrations. Any given year, we can rattle off ten of more events that we miss due to having to work. That makes it all the more important that when those events come up that are truly important to us and our families, we'd like to not miss them.
But of course, that wouldn't matter to some McBarFly who left their family out-of-state and spends all sorts of off-hours in bars with twenty-and-thirty-something star chasing groupies. And of course, not one single exempt points any of this out. Gutless, ball-less cowards, yes-men/women, each and every one of you. Thank god we retired along with a few hundred other people, leaving this disaster to enjoy the family we are currently re-connecting with.
Hey McAsshole, Time Due isn't a gift. We earned it. We did the City of Chicago a favor by not taking cash overtime money, instead, opting for time off at a later date for the extra hours we spent here serving and protecting, many times to the detriment of our family situations.
And another thing - the rest of the world doesn't really operate on the CPD schedule. We run 24/7/365. The rest of the world gets off on weekends and that's when they plan family events, large parties, gatherings and celebrations. Any given year, we can rattle off ten of more events that we miss due to having to work. That makes it all the more important that when those events come up that are truly important to us and our families, we'd like to not miss them.
But of course, that wouldn't matter to some McBarFly who left their family out-of-state and spends all sorts of off-hours in bars with twenty-and-thirty-something star chasing groupies. And of course, not one single exempt points any of this out. Gutless, ball-less cowards, yes-men/women, each and every one of you. Thank god we retired along with a few hundred other people, leaving this disaster to enjoy the family we are currently re-connecting with.
Labels: silly people
posted by SCC (retired) at 12:04 AM
93 Comments:
Thank you for addressing this.
I personally will not be bringing in any activity until this restriction is rescinded.
And per FLSA comp time cannot be denied.
Hey McBarfly, go have a few cold ones then go home and have a big cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP !!! You talk like a dummy with a paper asshole !!!
plus an arbitrator ruled they can't deny time due. implemented the switch with someone rule etc. unless its emergency etc...
"...not one single exempt points any of this out. Gutless, ball-less cowards, yes-men/women, each and every one of you."
Yes sir. No sir. Three bags full!
Well said SCC! Thanks!
SCC, I couldn't agree with you more, about that COWARD part! It gained much traction under
J-Fled, and it seems the field of cowards has
actually increased under Rahm/McNutty...
If this idiot ever worked the streets, he would know that it is Saturday in the ghetto, EVERYDAY.
People will be killed, robbed or beaten regardless of the amount of police working.
Pissing off the workers, will only result in less activity
SCC is retired?? When and where was the retirement party?? Damn I missed it!
Give us a better schedule: 10-HOUR DAY!!!! More time off and we dont have to drop so many slips that are gonna get denied. EVERYBODY is happy than.
Remember this next time a boss gives you the rah-rah go gettem speech. They want you to go out there and be aggressive while they cower like eunuchs at the compsat meeting. No leaders just Wal Mart like managers. There must be something in those gold stars that kills testosterone.
"Fartingt," that's your momas fart Raiken the Bitch is loud!
Anyone guess what movie line that was from?
I would hate to be that boss who denies someone time due, when I know we would get by fine without him,and then have to go and face his family when the unthinkable occurs.
Supt. should lead by example.
He should work a beat car in 3, 7 or 11 and show us how it is done.
Supt. keeps telling everyone at compstat that the beat car is accountable.
Take Tracy with u for a period so then we can compstat your work results.
Let's find out how tough the New Yorkers are on the street.
I refuse to sit in court during my time off only to be denied time due, pure insanity.
Thank you for addressing this.
I personally will not be bringing in any activity until this restriction is rescinded.
5/11/2012 12:16:00 AM
I'll bet you weren't bringing in any activity anyway. If they gave you everything you wanted, you'd just find another reason to be a dog ass.
this schedule sucks...better than 6 and 2...
Well SOMEBODY has to work the cars.
the simple minds can't understand two simple words TIME and DUE ?
I don't know why everyone doesn't read the Comp-post minutes. McDrunkSkunk has been harping on this for months--he is especially focused on Sunday. He has told his people to do whatever they have to do to eliminate officers taking weekend days off.
Anyone who doesn't read those minutes is missing a lot of critical info about what McStupid's game plan is.
no activity and it will shut this asshole up for good! don't do any more than you have to..
I have a solution. Hire more police you fickin idiots!!
OT- To the people complaining about being sent to 003 on the weekends, its only because 3rd watch in 003 has the laziest/dumbest officers (if you can call them that) in the department. Never coding jobs, 4 hours on a report that is not even close to being done correctly. Very sad. This is why 003 leads the city in shootings. Can't wait to bid out of here.
g-mac, you haven't seen anything yet--- just wait until periods 6-9 when people really start putting slips in for time--- it usually coincides with the end of school--- it's a time when may of us law enforcement types like to take a vacation with kids we never see or have a barbecue on a friday or saturday night when all of the normal people do it--- good bosses know it is the kiss of death to deny time--- workers turn into pooches when they can't go to weddings or graduation parties because the slip they dropped over a month ago got denied--- get ready to have a bunch of 99 units working citywide--- over the past 3 years 350 officers were hired and about 1800 retired--- possum head went public and stated we need more police and was muzzled by king richie--- now g-mac tells the media we have plenty of manpower and we just have to use our resources more wisely--- apparently that means denying time due on weekends--- not a good time to be saying that, especially after your dominatrix went down to springfield and opened his north shore liberal mouth about working until you're 60 and maxing out at 65 percent and cutting the COLA increases for 10 years....
Tuesday I took a PTO day off as I'm exhausted and trying to dump this cold. Since my company uses COMPSTAT, I was told that even though I had earned time off that I will still need to comply with all my stats for the month including my PTO day off. WTF?
Shut up about the 10hr day already, just be glad were still not working the 6 and 2.
so well said triple thumbs up on this post!!! Mr. Mcfly you truely are a disgrace to the city and the dept. perhaps you will see the light one day and realize what an idiot you are, please consider resigning or just flat out quit! so sad to see moral so low in a such great dept!!!!
If he wants to restrict time due than the FOP needs to argue the fact that we cannot sell back our time. I'm sure that would go over like a lead balloon at city hall. FOP needs to document all comp time that has been denied for the arbitrators.
rumor that all overtime will be paid in our next contract , no more time due . this will save alot of money because officers will be forced use bfd and personal days if they want time off.
It's my time and i'll use it when i need to....F/U Mcdousch!!!!
"...not one single exempt points any of this out. Gutless, ball-less cowards, yes-men/women, each and every one of you."
VERY well said! I just found I was officially denied the 20th off, thereby having to miss a college graduation.
Fuck these asshole cowards!
They just gave you the answer, Take the money every chance you get. See how the city likes that. Cash is King. Don't check "time " anymore. Take the money. Check the money box. Take the money on every overtime slip. Let's see who's doing who a favor. It's not personal, it's just business. No more favors. No one watching your backs anymore. Their cutting your benefits that it took 40 years to get. And you thought they had your backs. They cheated the pensions, now they want you to pay more and take cuts. Maybe occupy has a point. Everyone talking about cutting is already rich.
You'd think he would come up with that AFTER the pending cluster----.
McCarthy is gone by August. Rahm's advisors are pushing to dump him. The crime numbers are horrible. Chicago will certainly be the homicide capital for 2012. Rahm will need to show he is making changes and the first change will be dumping McCarthy.
ok let say that they say you can only give 5 percent of the watch off any given day. well lets say the ghetto district has 150 people assigned to each watch, that would be 7.5 officers per day, per watch. well in the 016th district we have 60 officers per watch, thats would not be fair to these officers. it is not their fault that the city gives most manpower to the ghetto. Im not hear to be yelled at by my fellow officers about who needs more officers or not. im just saying i want what everyone get from the pie..
My Promise To The CPD & The Citizens Of Chicago:
For every day I am denied off, I promise to make it up 3-fold via hitting the medical. If ordered to report for duty and miss a significant family event, I promise to twist an ankle or throw out my back the first step taken out of the roll call room.
This city's handlers have no clue how close the mutiny really is.
I DEMAND that Rahm & Co. open the TIF books and disclose every last dollar and explain why a good portion can't be used to shore-up our pension shortages. We seem to have hundreds of millions for everything else, why not actually invest some of that cash in your biggest assets?
Note to Rahm: a happy employee is a productive employee, and a productive employee brings in revenue. See how simple that equation is?
And per FLSA comp time cannot be denied.
5/11/2012 12:36:00 AM
You mean FLSA time cannot be denied. They can still deny normal comp time. FLSA is OT earned when you work over a certain amount of OT per period. You get paid at a higher rate too.
If it isn't some of the Citizenry shooting at you guys/gals, it's the higher ups sticking it to you when you want to take off time you have earned. What a great f'n city we have here.
..........a citizen
Anonymous said...
And per FLSA comp time cannot be denied.
5/11/2012 12:36:00 AM
Not quite. Per FLSA, any FLSA overtime accured, that being time in excess of 171 hours in a cycle, cannot be denied when a request to use it is sought. Any other o/t can be denied. Almost no one has any FLSA time on the books anymore. Check with your timekeeper to see if you have any but I doubt it. Any time you request time due, the first time used is your FLSA hours. There are only a handful of people who have any on the books.
SCC kudos that was awesome. I really am becoming a huge fan of yours and truly believe your impact as a social media goes far beyond our police family. I am a proud second generation Chicago Police Officer and lucky enough to live my dream every day as hoky as that sounds its true. Sadly, I have a long way to go until I can retire, but I am happy for you and hope you enjoy it with your family for a LONG TIME!!!
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Well if you have 200 hours on the books, how do you break up that time between flsa and comp time. I'll bet there is no way to do it.
F- this city lets all take money!
it's easy to say, hey, McFlurry, wake up!.....to the gold stars, hey, speak up!.....but maybe it's time for someone, anyone, to say....hey, what about the employees, the officers, who put themselves on the line everyday, whose next call may be their last.....they can't ask for a day off on a weekend, to attend a family function, or just be with family?.....
Why are they making a class of sergeants when we need more patrol officers?
024 has more sergeants than police officers!!!
Just got a mailer ticket in the mail from 019 that some jagball didn't hang on my car for parking in an alleged no parking zone. Only thing is it is a designated police vehicles only spot on the side street along the station. Had he or she taken the time to look at my car rather than just write down my plate they would have seen my fop medallion and sticker on my windows. total asshole move
Anonymous said...
OT- To the people complaining about being sent to 003 on the weekends, its only because 3rd watch in 003 has the laziest/dumbest officers (if you can call them that) in the department. Never coding jobs, 4 hours on a report that is not even close to being done correctly. Very sad. This is why 003 leads the city in shootings. Can't wait to bid out of here.
5/11/2012 08:05:00 AM
The safest place is 74/ Kingston.
Know one thing love him or hate him your mayor is a smart, tough guy. I'm sure his showing up at that police, fire boxing match was as much about showing you he is not afraid of you, walking into your house, as it was his love of boxing. He is showing very quickly he is running this whole state. Even the once powerful leprechaun's Burke and Madigan have fallin in line. Boys and girls you better not take this man lightly he is not like the fool before him. Just some advice.
They stopped hiring officers. When most of us started we did not have kids and a family so no one wanted to take time off during the weekends. Shame on them for not planning ahead. Rookies work the weekends because they want to. If you don't look ahead then you wont get ahead.
Wah, wah, wah, the things we have to do and put up with for 50k plus a year plus all the other benefits, wish I was in private industry. Most of them get every weekend off when they are working steady.
Back in the day you couldn't carry any more than 75 hours of td from period to period. No cash money.
Seems to me 30+ yrs ago you could only carry up to 60 hrs a period, and use your time by 31Dec....new year was brand new start....so much for progress. TAKE THE MONEY!
Know one thing love him or hate him your mayor is a smart, tough guy. I'm sure his showing up at that police, fire boxing match was as much about showing you he is not afraid of you, walking into your house, as it was his love of boxing. He is showing very quickly he is running this whole state. Even the once powerful leprechaun's Burke and Madigan have fallin in line. Boys and girls you better not take this man lightly he is not like the fool before him. Just some advice.
5/11/2012 07:55:00 PM
Ummm.....ok Rahm
Wah, wah, wah, the things we have to do and put up with for 50k plus a year plus all the other benefits, wish I was in private industry. Most of them get every weekend off when they are working steady.
5/11/2012 08:42:00 PM
STFU asshole
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Know one thing love him or hate him your mayor is a smart, tough guy. I'm sure his showing up at that police, fire boxing match was as much about showing you he is not afraid of you, walking into your house, as it was his love of boxing. He is showing very quickly he is running this whole state. Even the once powerful leprechaun's Burke and Madigan have fallin in line. Boys and girls you better not take this man lightly he is not like the fool before him. Just some advice.
5/11/2012 07:55:00 PM
This is an excellent piece of advice, folks....
Some changes happenin 'round here...
Anonymous said...
Just got a mailer ticket in the mail from 019 that some jagball didn't hang on my car for parking in an alleged no parking zone. Only thing is it is a designated police vehicles only spot on the side street along the station. Had he or she taken the time to look at my car rather than just write down my plate they would have seen my fop medallion and sticker on my windows. total asshole move
5/11/2012 05:43:00 PM
Um, since when is your personal car a "Police Vehicle?" So what you're saying is if I put a USMC sticker on my car, I can park anywhere it says, "Designated military vehicle?" Those spots are for police cars. You know, the ones with the M plates on them!
Stop being a lazy slob and park in the lot and walk the extra 100 feet. The exercise will do ya good!
Check the money box and make sure you make copy of the time due slip in case the timekeeper claims she "goofed" and gives you time.
Just got a mailer ticket in the mail from 019 that some jagball didn't hang on my car for parking in an alleged no parking zone. Only thing is it is a designated police vehicles only spot on the side street along the station. Had he or she taken the time to look at my car rather than just write down my plate they would have seen my fop medallion and sticker on my windows. total asshole move
Wait, Fop medallion and fop sticker on your window... oh ok, so your one of those guys.. I guess you didnt get the designated police vehicles only sign. Talk about an asshole move..... take off your stickers because you want everyone to know your the police off duty....geek
"Chicago will certainly be the homicide capital for 2012."
Woo Hoo!
Why keep track if you're not going to be #1!!??
Chalkie
"Supt. should lead by example.
He should work a beat car in 3, 7 or 11 and show us how it is done."
Been saying that for years! ALL exempts should have to work a beat car at least once a year, performing to the desired "standard" and working within the rules, regulations and laws (both criminal and civil) that we have to!
Otherwise they lose touch with reality.
Well if you have 200 hours on the books, how do you break up that time between flsa and comp time. I'll bet there is no way to do it.
5/11/2012 02:37:00 PM
Honestly, you probably dont have any FLSA time. I know when you take money it says on your stub FLSA OT and its a higher pay rate so Im sure it noted somewhere. I'm not saying Im awesome, Im just saying most people who are hitting the OT hard for a period are taking cash.
Just got a mailer ticket in the mail from 019 that some jagball didn't hang on my car for parking in an alleged no parking zone. Only thing is it is a designated police vehicles only spot on the side street along the station. Had he or she taken the time to look at my car rather than just write down my plate they would have seen my fop medallion and sticker on my windows. total asshole move
I write cars with fop medallions, too many posers out there have them on their cars.
Anonymous said...
Well if you have 200 hours on the books, how do you break up that time between flsa and comp time. I'll bet there is no way to do it.
5/11/2012 02:37:00 PM
Honestly, you probably dont have any FLSA time. I know when you take money it says on your stub FLSA OT and its a higher pay rate so Im sure it noted somewhere. I'm not saying Im awesome, Im just saying most people who are hitting the OT hard for a period are taking cash.
5/12/2012 02:27:00 AM
FLSA time is actual overtime earned, not holiday time or court OT that gives you 3 hours for 30 minutes in court. The 30 minutes would be FLSA time, the rest is non FLSA. And the timekeeper is required to use up the FLSA time first before non FLSA time when you put in a slip. Timekeeper must now keep track of the different amounts.
Anonymous said...
Know one thing love him or hate him your mayor is a smart, tough guy. I'm sure his showing up at that police, fire boxing match was as much about showing you he is not afraid of you, walking into your house, as it was his love of boxing. He is showing very quickly he is running this whole state. Even the once powerful leprechaun's Burke and Madigan have fallin in line. Boys and girls you better not take this man lightly he is not like the fool before him. Just some advice.
5/11/2012 07:55:00 PM
Soon he will be forced to recruit and select a Praetorian Guard to protect him from the common police officers he is all set to screw. But if you are a Section 8 LINK Card carrying scumbag, fear not.
He is already on record committing himself to cutting our pensions while building a new Malcolm X College for $250 million.
I hope all the 019 do nothing PO's who step on each other to rush on over to guard 4228 N Hermitage remember that as they sit doing more nothing in back of the emperor's palace.
Anonymous said...
"Supt. should lead by example.
He should work a beat car in 3, 7 or 11 and show us how it is done."
Been saying that for years! ALL exempts should have to work a beat car at least once a year, performing to the desired "standard" and working within the rules, regulations and laws (both criminal and civil) that we have to!
Otherwise they lose touch with reality.
5/12/2012 01:20:00 AM
Yep. you're right. Go down on a "station assignment" or "reports" right out of the station, then get coffee or other refreshment, then handle a job or two and milk them as long as possible, then go order lunch, eat, come back from the job and request lunch. Then perhaps into the station on "reports" again, then hopefully get some paper job that will get you to the end of the tour. All of this will really snap the bosses back to "reality." Give it up already, asswipe.
When can I sell all my 2300 Hours on the
Show me the Money .
if exempts work a beat car in 7 , 11 , 15 make them wear a blue shirt
and respond 10-99
that would wake those political hacks up
If you took this job to have barbecue or go ...fishing, go work for walmart we are the POLICE.....start acting like it
Leave the department and get a job in private industry. Maybe selling insurance. In a good year you will work nights and weekends and maybe make 60-70 grand.In a bad year you will work nights and weekends and make 40 grand. Salesman dont have OT or time due and certainly dont have a pension. If you want every weekend off and never want to miss a family event, then why in the hell did you become a cop? You knew going in that this is a 24/7 job. Now just because you have some time on the books you think you can take it whenever you want and if you are not given what you want everyone is an ahole?? What a narrow minded stupid way to look at things, not to say selfish.
They constantly use manpower as an excuse to deny the time WE EARNED and is now DUE to US! Then McDrunk is touting how we are fully staffed and have enough officers on the street- so which one is it??? You can't have a fully staffed police force and say your manpower is at full strength in one breath, then tell your commanders to deny time to their officers because the percentage of officers off work is inadequate. I can honestly say this job has become a real circus- and it used to be bad enough just having to deal with the savages. Now, we have to deal with bosses and clueless administrators that put their own professional and financial gain before the safety and welfare of the patrolmen. I rarely asked for time due when I first came on the job because I knew that I had to suck it up being the rookie and those with seniority would be granted comp time before me. Apparently seniority doesn't mean crap around here now because the guys with 5yrs get regular assigned cars and partners (and no, they are not hard chargers), working the radio room, while the people with 10+ yrs are shuffled from car to car, and stuck with any shit detail that comes up. The bosses are shaky as hell and very few are respected or liked by the officers. I am stuck amongst the officers with at least another 10-15yrs to go, and like many of them I have a mortgage and bills to pay, but I'll walk off this job tomorrow if they take our pension- it is the last thing holding most of us here.
we need everyone at the next union meeting A lot of new information is flying around (rumors) Please we need to unite and be strong....
JG
To the people condoning writing another copper a ticket, you are jagoffs and total company men. You are easy to spot. The one complaining at roll call about how the city is screwing over coppers and about how you wont write tickets or do anywork. Yet as soon as you get out there you look for movers and parkers so you can tell the boss how much activity you bring in because you are a kiss ass. But when someone calls for an assist you never show up. Out of the hundreds of possible parkers you couldve wrote that day you wrote a coworker. And to top it off you airmailed it. Just remember karma is a bitch and one day you will get yours. But wait it wont be from the REAL police because they wouldnt fuck over another copper.
"But of course, that wouldn't matter to some McBarFly who left their family out-of-state and spends all sorts of off-hours in bars with twenty-and-thirty-something star chasing groupies."
The Entertainment Detail has done an exemplary job protecting McBarFly from himself. Many an exempt sole has gotten lost in the Viagra Triangle Patch. Perhaps some recognition is dew: a Unit Meritorious Performance Award is in order for Our 018th District Heroes.
Know one thing love him or hate him your mayor is a smart, tough guy. I'm sure his showing up at that police, fire boxing match was as much about showing you he is not afraid of you, walking into your house, as it was his love of boxing. He is showing very quickly he is running this whole state. Even the once powerful leprechaun's Burke and Madigan have fallin in line. Boys and girls you better not take this man lightly he is not like the fool before him. Just some advice.
Sure he is, just look at how well Fannie Mae did on his watch
McCarthy is gone by August. Rahm's advisors are pushing to dump him. The crime numbers are horrible. Chicago will certainly be the homicide capital for 2012. Rahm will need to show he is making changes and the first change will be dumping McCarthy.
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And somehow changing to someone else will have some positive impact on crime numbers? I can't imagine Rahm or his advisers are dumb enough to believe there is anyone out there who can magically come in and reduce crime as police super.
As a tactic to avoid taking the blame themselves they might do it.
Crime is about a whole lot more than policing. You can't fix a problem like that without attacking it from the other angles. And I do not mean by giving more handouts to those who refuse to work for a living.
Policing is a lot like being the trash collector. You don't get to reduce the amount of trash generated. About all you can really do as a trash collector is improve the trash collection operation a little here and there.
I thought the Illinois Supreme Court (and other state's as well) already addressed this matter
Wah, wah, wah, the things we have to do and put up with for 50k plus a year plus all the other benefits, wish I was in private industry. Most of them get every weekend off when they are working steady.
5/11/2012 08:42:00 PM
Occupy, you wouldn't last four hours doing our job. Go away.
OT- To the people complaining about being sent to 003 on the weekends, its only because 3rd watch in 003 has the laziest/dumbest officers (if you can call them that) in the department. Never coding jobs, 4 hours on a report that is not even close to being done correctly. Very sad. This is why 003 leads the city in shootings. Can't wait to bid out of here.
Yep, was a great watch in 2005-2008. Horrible now-a-days, filled with the biggest group of idiots I ever met. Which is sad because the Sergeants are pretty good too. All the decent coppers either went to Tact or left.
Just got a mailer ticket in the mail from 019 that some jagball didn't hang on my car for parking in an alleged no parking zone. Only thing is it is a designated police vehicles only spot on the side street along the station. Had he or she taken the time to look at my car rather than just write down my plate they would have seen my fop medallion and sticker on my windows. total asshole move
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While I don't wish that you were given the ticket here's a bulletin, Einstein: Your personal car is NOT a police vehicle. That blue and white vehicle that you ride around in while you are busting your balls figuring out a way not to do anything? That's a police car. You can't miss them, they have blue lights on top.
Dumbass
I sense something wrong in the work ethic of a few people who post on this blog. You think that people who do a reasonable amount of work, write a few tickets and respond to their calls are kiss asses? Wow. Twisted thinking at the very least. You have a job that you were hired to do. You are being paid for this job. Negotiate to the best of your ability to better the work conditions and benefits. Until then do you job to the best of your ability or quit or risk getting fired. The sad part of it is no on really gets fired or disciplined for doing little or nothing. Then these malcontents critisize those who want to work. Upside down at the very least. You work in a department that has put up with do nothings for many years and rewarded some of these do nothings because theyhad clout. Try this bullshit in some other departments and see how far it goes. I sure hope they change the system here soon and weed out these people or at the very lease never promote or transfer them.
Anonymous said...
Back in the day you couldn't carry any more than 75 hours of td from period to period. No cash money.
5/11/2012 09:25:00 PM
Anonymous said...
Seems to me 30+ yrs ago you could only carry up to 60 hrs a period, and use your time by 31Dec....new year was brand new start....so much for progress. TAKE THE MONEY!
5/11/2012 10:24:00 PM
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GRAMPA!!!! I haven't heard from you in years!
Re: Anonymous said...
I would hate to be that boss who denies someone time due, when I know we would get by fine without him,and then have to go and face his family when the unthinkable occurs.
How short some people's memories are....Ask the Flisk family about this. RIP Mike!!!!
No one has FLSA time on the books anymore. All FLSA time was cashed out involuntarily a few years ago. Any FLSA OT earned now is paid. FYI
Im retired and living in NC. Believe me guys, the cops here, especially the State Police dont care if youre a cop or not. You go 10 over, youre getting a ticket. One guy wrote me for 15 over, and down here thats an automatic suspension. I had to pay a lawyer to get it redcuced and pled guilty to 9 over
Anonymous said...
To the people condoning writing another copper a ticket, you are jagoffs and total company men. You are easy to spot. The one complaining at roll call about how the city is screwing over coppers and about how you wont write tickets or do anywork. Yet as soon as you get out there you look for movers and parkers so you can tell the boss how much activity you bring in because you are a kiss ass. But when someone calls for an assist you never show up. Out of the hundreds of possible parkers you couldve wrote that day you wrote a coworker. And to top it off you airmailed it. Just remember karma is a bitch and one day you will get yours. But wait it wont be from the REAL police because they wouldnt fuck over another copper.
5/12/2012 11:24:00 AM
Thanks for posting that. I am really in shock that anyone on the blog would be in favor of what went down here. This is a sad world we live in where a copper would willingly write a parking ticket that does nothing but generate revenue for a city who repeatedly fucks us over and justify it the way the guys here have. And where does someone get the idea that I ride around in a car all day looking to avoid working and I'm some kind of guy that these guys are better than? The way I see it someone writing me a ticket and not having the balls to hang it tells me he or she is well aware that they might be writing a copper and somehow that's justifiable ? I've got plenty of time on this job and can tell you that those spots have always been used by private vehicles across the whole city. Show me where on those signs it says city owned or department owned vehicles only. If I'm the police and it's my vehicle you really would argue the issue with me parking there? The garage says district personnel only and I never said I worked there. I stopped in for something and I guarantee you my cr was not the one civilian car amongst a sea of blue and whites. Think of the guys who have gotten jammed up sending mailers and you guys would really take the stand that I am in the wrong ???
There was a time when we would look out for our own and I am in utter amazement that any copper would really have issue with me having an FOP medallion and an active member sticker on my window. Im still proud of being the police and what I've been through with the guys I've worked with through my career. This I the kind of mentality that has evolved into guys driving by other coppers on street stops without slowing down or driving the other way when someone needs help. Unbelievable
Anonymous said...
To the people condoning writing another copper a ticket, you are jagoffs and total company men. You are easy to spot. The one complaining at roll call about how the city is screwing over coppers and about how you wont write tickets or do anywork. Yet as soon as you get out there you look for movers and parkers so you can tell the boss how much activity you bring in because you are a kiss ass. But when someone calls for an assist you never show up. Out of the hundreds of possible parkers you couldve wrote that day you wrote a coworker. And to top it off you airmailed it. Just remember karma is a bitch and one day you will get yours. But wait it wont be from the REAL police because they wouldnt fuck over another copper.
5/12/2012 11:24:00 AM
One more thing to the guy who wrote this, I wish I knew who you were so I could shake your hand. Very well said
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Anonymous said...
To the people condoning writing another copper a ticket, you are jagoffs and total company men. You are easy to spot. The one complaining at roll call about how the city is screwing over coppers and about how you wont write tickets or do anywork. Yet as soon as you get out there you look for movers and parkers so you can tell the boss how much activity you bring in because you are a kiss ass. But when someone calls for an assist you never show up. Out of the hundreds of possible parkers you couldve wrote that day you wrote a coworker. And to top it off you airmailed it. Just remember karma is a bitch and one day you will get yours. But wait it wont be from the REAL police because they wouldnt fuck over another copper.
AMEN BROTHER! AMEN
VERY well said! I just found I was officially denied the 20th off, thereby having to miss a college graduation.
Fuck these asshole cowards!
5/11/2012 09:57:00 AM
Anonymous said...
They just gave you the answer, Take the money every chance you get. See how the city likes that. Cash is King. Don't check "time " anymore. Take the money. Check the money box. Take the money on every overtime slip. Let's see who's doing who a favor. It's not personal, it's just business. No more favors. No one watching your backs anymore. Their cutting your benefits that it took 40 years to get. And you thought they had your backs. They cheated the pensions, now they want you to pay more and take cuts. Maybe occupy has a point. Everyone talking about cutting is already rich.
5/11/2012 10:20:00 AM
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To the first person quoted above: Maybe you have never been to a college graduation, but if you are denied time for it, you don't know how lucky you are. Go to the party after work and forget about it.
To the second quote above: You are wrong! The city obviously would rather pay you your time now than 2, 5, 10, etc. years from now. The financial burden for the city is much less. If you can't figure that out, it means that you will be earning more per hour in future years.
I sense something wrong in the work ethic of a few people who post on this blog. You think that people who do a reasonable amount of work, write a few tickets and respond to their calls are kiss asses? Wow. Twisted thinking at the very least. You have a job that you were hired to do. You are being paid for this job. Negotiate to the best of your ability to better the work conditions and benefits. Until then do you job to the best of your ability or quit or risk getting fired. The sad part of it is no on really gets fired or disciplined for doing little or nothing. Then these malcontents critisize those who want to work. Upside down at the very least. You work in a department that has put up with do nothings for many years and rewarded some of these do nothings because theyhad clout. Try this bullshit in some other departments and see how far it goes. I sure hope they change the system here soon and weed out these people or at the very lease never promote or transfer them.
5/12/2012 07:00:00 PM
Rahm, how did you find time to post on the blog during this busy, busy week!!!
Anonymous said...
Im retired and living in NC. Believe me guys, the cops here, especially the State Police dont care if youre a cop or not. You go 10 over, youre getting a ticket. One guy wrote me for 15 over, and down here thats an automatic suspension. I had to pay a lawyer to get it redcuced and pled guilty to 9 over
5/13/2012 12:29:00 AM
I couldn't live in a state where the police have broomsticks shoved up their ass so far that they write speeding tickets to fellow police officers.
I got a speeding ticket in Montana from the State Police or Highway Patrol or whatever they call themselves. The guy did me a "favor" by making it only 10 over and took $20 cash on the spot for bond. It is about the money there, they know you are not coming back to the middle of Montana for court and bond is forfeited. Thankfully they don't also report to your home state.
I was leaving Canada later that trip and got to talking to the Border Patrol/Customs guys and learned they all get tickets from Montana too. Some of them have to drive a damn far ways to go to work and if the Montana State guys get them, they get a ticket too.
But thanks for the word about the NC police, that knocks North Carolina off my list of potential retirement states. In fact, the only southern state still on my list is Tennessee. And that is only because of no state income tax.
Sorry you got a parker from a 19 district PO. Now you know what type of caliber PO is there. Not all but a bunch of idiots. There has been numerous incidents of POs idiotic actions in that district. Ask most good POs from there, and they have a bunch of stories.
Bosses have a tendency to forget what is was like when THEY weren't bosses.
"You can always tell a boss, but you can't tell him/her anything!"
Stay safe at NATO and always. my thoughts and prayers are with you all.
Retired revolver police
Anonymous said:
I couldn't live in a state where the police have broomsticks shoved up their ass so far that they write speeding tickets to fellow police officers.
I got a speeding ticket in Montana from the State Police or Highway Patrol or whatever they call themselves. The guy did me a "favor" by making it only 10 over and took $20 cash on the spot for bond. It is about the money there, they know you are not coming back to the middle of Montana for court and bond is forfeited. Thankfully they don't also report to your home state.
I was leaving Canada later that trip and got to talking to the Border Patrol/Customs guys and learned they all get tickets from Montana too. Some of them have to drive a damn far ways to go to work and if the Montana State guys get them, they get a ticket too.
But thanks for the word about the NC police, that knocks North Carolina off my list of potential retirement states. In fact, the only southern state still on my list is Tennessee. And that is only because of no state income tax.
5/13/2012 11:27:00 AM
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I think we have a new record for stupid statements on this blog. Anyone who would choose a place to live based on whether the cops ticket other cops is a total slug.
1970--56 hrs on the books and had to be used by furlough or loose it. No split furloughs then either and no extending it either.Then several years later they raised it to 75 hrs used by furlough.The fop then came in and unlimited. Thanks for the payout. Retired and happy
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