Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Bribe? What Bribe?

What else do you call it?
  • One of Illinois’ most influential labor unions denied Monday that nearly $100,000 it contributed to a campaign fund controlled by House Speaker Michael Madigan was part of a “quid pro quo” designed to kill a pension-reform package in his legislative chamber last week.

    State campaign records show SEIU Healthcare Illinois and SEIU Illinois Council collectively poured donations totaling $97,000 into the Democratic Majority fund last Friday, the same day a special legislative session called by Gov. Pat Quinn to fix Illinois’ $83 billion pension crisis ended in failure.

    Madigan (D-Chicago) wouldn’t allow a floor vote on Senate-passed legislation that would have reeled in pension benefits for state workers and General Assembly members and only allowed a procedural vote on a slimmed-down measure affecting just lawmakers’ pensions. That latter plan wound up being positioned for a final House vote but was six votes shy of the necessary 60 votes it would need to move to the Senate.

Imagine that. Kicking the can down the road does nothing to solve the current crisis. It's going to be painful, unpopular and difficult. But something has to be done and delaying tactics via "bribes" helps no one, especially the unions.

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34 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Political thieves like Madigan just spit in our faces. He and others have been in power for so they just feel they can do anything they want. So far they have.

8/21/2012 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sad that bribery is legal at the Illinois capital.

8/21/2012 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you're wrong on this one, SCC, regarding no one being helped.

MANY people would be helped if Madigan took the hit for this. Why, Illinois politics might stand a chance of getting out from under the control of the existing dictatorship.

8/21/2012 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only an alien that just walked off a UFO would believe Madigan wouldn't pull something like that for $$$$ and even the alien probably heard of Illinois politicians on whatever planet he's from. How the FED's have never got him and his scumbag friends is beyond me.

8/21/2012 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You mean Madigan is corrupt? And his daughter too?

Get the fuck out. Next you'll tell me that Rahm is not on the up and up.

Who will I vote for if not the democratic machine and its communist dictator policies?

8/21/2012 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SEIU is a terrorist organization, plain and simple

if the FOP ever hitches their wagon to SEIU, I can guarentee you that is the day i quit the FOP

8/21/2012 01:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only 100,000 dollars? Well I guess that isn't as bad as the 7,000 dollars the other hse rep took, but didn't they kick him out while trying to send him to jail?

8/21/2012 01:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, you can fein support for any type of bill that cuts pension benefits all you want in order to seem like a fiscally moral citizen.

The plain fact is with everyone crying about pension "reform" the bottom line WILL be that anything cutting benefits WILL be put before the supreme court who has repeatedly made it clear that the constitution prevents ANY decrease in benefits to retirees.

So you can get off your high horse because cutting pension benefits is ILLEGAL in illinois and there's nothing anyone can do about it, and rightfully so.

The entire state better get used to the fact that it's gonna have to pay up what it's owed those pensions and they're not gonna get away scot free on NOT paying for it. It's the law, it's OWED to those workers, get used to it.

8/21/2012 05:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The pension funds are all underfunded with no hope of ever being fully funded. Cities will be filing for bankruptcy. And the corrupt Illinois politicians will be laughing all of the way to the bank with the millions made off of campaign contributions and kickbacks. These liberal voters don't realize the choice is not between increasing pay and benefits or cuts, the choice is cuts or NO pay and benefits when the funds run out...and they already have.

8/21/2012 05:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

didn't Rahm "earn" $18M in 18 mos for a job he had absolutley no training for? Wow, what a favor that was.

Ya, its all legit.

8/21/2012 05:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Adolf said...

Michael Madigan is a blessing. His credibility, integrity and reputation is above reproach. Such a decent honorable man. A genuine reformer, he would never tolerate political corruption.

8/21/2012 07:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

madigan has the same illness rahm has. both men like to spend tax payers money on what they like. rahm likes bike paths, cameras, new hotels, cease fire. it must be contagious because potus has it too. well the poor folks in englewood have to fend for themselves, learn to stay safe on their own.

8/21/2012 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What good is living in this shithole of a city if the politicians we buy don't stay bought?

8/21/2012 08:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need term limits !!! Madigan has held office 42 years. The sheep continue to vote them in year after year.



8/21/2012 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And Mikey Shields sold out for allot less

8/21/2012 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just shake my head when I see an illegal alien wearing the communist uniform, the purple S.E.I.U. t-shirt. Useful idiots.

8/21/2012 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tick tock tick tock.......whats gonna happen with our pensions,these bastards!

8/21/2012 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SEIU is a terrorist organization, plain and simple

if the FOP ever hitches their wagon to SEIU, I can guarentee you that is the day i quit the FOP

Then you better quit.

8/21/2012 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What can you say about politics, its the new mob. But like everywhere else specially Mexico, politicians are not above the law and they are the ones getting whacked morethan others for not keeping promises sold. Beware of that know on your door politicos, might be that bony bitch coming to get you.

8/21/2012 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tbhe fucking scumbags at SEIU will see to it that the democrats will always control Illinois and Shitcago.

8/21/2012 03:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lol...its great how you guys will bitch about your pension, but then complain about the people fighting to keep pensions intact. Make up your mind. You don't think big business is lobbying against you??

8/21/2012 04:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Tbhe fucking scumbags at SEIU will see to it that the democrats will always control Illinois and Shitcago.

8/21/2012 03:26:00 PM

and along with that, they'll help insure that their membership isn't FUCKED OVER by thieving fucking politicians who've stolen taxpayer monies and corruptively thrown them away to their friends trying to stay in power.

If you ARE a cop, you're a fucking idiot who's too stupid to connect the dots that endorsing the fucking over of state employees against the constitution and all labor and contract laws means YOU'RE gonna get porch fucked if they're allowed to get away with it.

If you're not a cop, you don't matter in this discussion because you have even LESS to do with it than a cop who WOULD have to take a hit AND pay more taxes than you in the first place.

8/21/2012 04:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The French had it right with the guillotine on these thieving corrupt lying scumbags.

8/21/2012 04:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Successful unions are pragmatic and concerned only for the growth and power they can attain and keep. Only suckers believe any politics is on the square.

8/21/2012 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beware of that know on your door politicos, might be that bony bitch coming to get you.

8/21/2012 11:56:00 AM



who're you calling a bony bitch?


i'll have you know that my weight is proportional to my height.

though i must admit, i do seem to have a slightly heavy hand, at times.




Chalkie

8/21/2012 07:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The entire state better get used to the fact that it's gonna have to pay up what it's owed those pensions and they're not gonna get away scot free on NOT paying for it. It's the law, it's OWED to those workers, get used to it.

8/21/2012 05:07:00 AM



so, what you're saying here is, the only way the taxpayers can avoid being dunned for these public pension obligations is for the soon to be retired pensioners to die before they collect their first pension payment?


on a selective basis, it sounds like a plan to me.




Chalkie

8/21/2012 07:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at California-- some cuts in pensions are on there way. No way around it. Just when-- 2018 is my guess

8/21/2012 09:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one has the right to bitch about madigan as long as he continues to win elections with a landslide...

8/21/2012 10:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SEIU, IBEW Local 21 and City settle their contract, 6% over 4 years and a small cash amount for not getting a raise this year and last. Not a lot but better than a sharp stick in the eye.

8/21/2012 11:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a co-worker whose wife retired after 5 years of teaching grade school at age 60.

Her pension is 25% of her final salary. I told the guy I could not figure why so high, the numbers do not make sense according the teacher pension rules that I have read.

Well, it turns out that she subbed for 6 years and those years counted as service years.

The pension benefits are just way too rich for too many people.

As driver ed teachers retire with 100K pensions, there is no way for us taxpayers to support this great ponzi scheme created by the pols.

8/22/2012 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one has the right to bitch about madigan as long as he continues to win elections with a landslide...

8/21/2012 10:12:00 PM

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He wins because he has a gun to people's heads . . ASSHOLE

8/22/2012 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Naw...shocking, simply shocking!!!!! What a fucking coincidence!!!! It's the Illinois way!!!

8/22/2012 12:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember this everyone. The pension problem is the result of the politicians NOT funding the states portion into the pension systems for decades. They used the pension funds as their own piggy banks for pork projects as well as keeping the state income tax artificially low. Had they contributed the required funds each year we wouldn't even be talking about this issue. I'll agree that there is a lot of pension abuse, but those things can be easily fixed. Replacing the vast sums of pilfered money that should have been paid into the pension fund in the first place is another story. Vote all the bums out!!!

8/22/2012 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" So you can get off your high horse because cutting pension benefits is ILLEGAL in illinois and there's nothing anyone can do about it, and rightfully so.

The entire state better get used to the fact that it's gonna have to pay up what it's owed those pensions and they're not gonna get away scot free on NOT paying for it. It's the law, it's OWED to those workers, get used to it."


Good luck with that. THe government has over extended itself with paying for handouts to bust-outs. With fewer taxpayers being able to keep up with the Liberal spending on the "poor," the Democrats took from the pension funds to the point where it can no longer afford to honor it's pension commitments, and with pensions only benefiting (The Rich, i.e. working folks), the Dems feel it's a no-brainer to keep paying the free-loaders who vote rather than honor commitments to the people "who can afford it."
Good luck pensioners.

8/22/2012 02:07:00 PM  

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