Crime Commission Says What?
How can this be true?
More cops? Harsher penalties? Golly, wherever could these heathens have gotten this idea?
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
Thursday, September 27, 2012
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47 Comments:
Seems as if I have heard this some place before?
Hey SCC,
I don't know if you are aware of this, but it looks like Madigan is at it again and I am sure he is getting some help from Rahm in regards to trying to F us out of our pensions. On the November 6 ballot will be CA 49, a proposal to the Illinois Constitution. This proposal basically changes the Constitution so that the protections our earned pension benefits now have under the Constitution can be changed. We need to get the word out to vote NO on this proposal on November 6.
Constitutional Amendment 49
They have a remarkable knack for stating the obvious.
I think J-Fled the Coward planted this seed at the C.C.C. on or about 01 July 2011 as a parting shot to the CPD, and has been nurturing it ever since.
The traits of deception, misinformation and espionage are in his blood and were further cultivated by his career as a Feeb.
Dumb as a fox, that Cro-Magnon bastard is.
The Liberals could not have thought that up in their worst nightmares.
Officer comes home from hospital after a month. Take care officer. YOU deserve 75% Take it if you can get it YOu earned it with your body
drunkin fummies
Hi Joe P. WTF are you in 005?
Rahm and McNutty will be in complete denial of this logical recommendation.
To bad it will never happen. Let the animals kill each other then your CR number.
Yes we need more cops on the street. As for harsher punishment, the laws on the books are stiff enough. Its the judges that believe everyone deserves probation and the State's Attorneys who are so willing and able to cut a deal so they don't have to actually try the case.
I seem to recall that a felony is a crime punishable by at least one year in jail. Hmmmmm.....at least one year in jail? I can't even tell you how many felonies I've gotten where they get 1 year probation.
OT crimes down , commanders still hide full duty police officers in front office , back office and phony school cars , foot posts
gold braid bill is gone 2013
look for mass retirements nov 2012
Wasn't this an officer that the effing media reported as "the officer received NON life threatening" injuries?
Ten surgeries, a month in the hospital. I beg to differ.
The liberal media is beyond despicable.
Get well soon office and God speed to you and yours.
ha .... get ready for more claims of racism
Hey, want a great fucking read? Ever hear Obama claim that the criminal justice system is racist?
Read this gem...
http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_2_criminal_justice_system.html
Shark-Eyed Rahm
doesn't seem to care about anything but himself, and the job he does isn't for the good of the citizens, it only has to do with how good it makes him look. There's zero selflessness about it
The biggest problem is that the City and Police Dept. will throw a P.O. under the Federal Bus for Political grand standing!
I sat in Federal Court over "false allegations" a few years back and when I looked around the room no boss was there to support me in my wrongful case!
So now my attitude now is of self preservation, get my pension and leave Chicago as soon as possible!
Something for you young gunners to think about for your future, from an old veteran!
Da Pelon
Rahm and Madigan attacking our Pensions on the sneak again!
They are trying to change the State of Illinois Constitution!
Vote NO!
Illinois State Bill CA49 on election ballot Novemeber 6, 2012
SCC, very important! Get on this Topic NOW!
NO, NO, NO!
That's not the answer.
We need more Maggie's Park's, bicycle lanes, more b.s. taxes, and of course, let's not forget the children ...more traffic cameras ...on every street corner ...everywhere.
Maybe we can even squeeze in another dozen or so Alderfools.
Madigan and Rahm are perpetual snakes who should NEVER be trusted. They're out to fuck the poor working stiffs( us included!).
seems no matter what CPD does
J-Fled still "haunts" the halls
is it possilbe he is waiting in the wings in case Tiny Dancer loses it with the StreetLightMarksMan
they knew all along that they were short on manpower but they couldn't go against the "party line"
now it's so obviouis even thay can't deny it
(pretty bad whin the FBI won't accept your statistics)
J-Fled still "Haunts" the halls
maybe McNutCase talks to him like hillary was talking to Eleanor in the white house
Its going to take more than another 500 or so officers to stop these fools. Anyone that thinks what 7 new officers a watch is going to do any good is dreaming
Expect Mcstupid to start shifting even more officers into ghetto districts. Your tax dollars at work!!!
I agree that we need to hire hundreds more police officers, but we already have tough laws on the books for crime, it's just that the corrupt judges and lawyers don't enforce them. The court system is so light on criminals it's sickening! Only people actually involved in the system day to day see it. Outsiders have no idea how bad the court system is in cook county. Ask any shit head on the street and they will tell you nothing serious ever happens to them in court, so it's worth the risk to be dirty. In the end it's politicians that control the courts through the judges. Cook county is a place where crime does pay.
Rahm doesn't care about people being robbed or dying in the streets all Rahm cares about is raising cash and what his next job is going to be. The people of Chicago are pawns in his game.
How about that. Been saying the same thing about hiring more Police for a couple of years now. It's out of the bag now. Time to hire a few thousand more Police! It's for the children you know, as Rhambo likes to say. The city needs to hire more Police NOW!
Everyone knows we need more police. I'm just surprised they said it.
Okay, we have said it before, it never gets reported, but here it goes again;
Rahm does not want to hire more cops and put them into the current pension system.
Rahm wants a new, deluded, unfair pension system in place before any mass hirings, even if people are DYING because of it.
Rahm feels the police dept is his toy, and he will do with it what he wants.
What Rahm should do is pay the city's share into the pension systems that the city owes, with interest. The rank and file have been paying their share all along. Once we are on equal footing we might get this thing solved.
Rahm should stop trying to get complete control over the various pension boards. The city's guidance(stealing/special interest) was the PROBLEM, not the SOLUTION.
Stop with the Maggie boxes and everything like it. No pet projects until the important problems get taken care of.
Make Rahm tell the Murder Victim's Family the bad news immediately after a Fatal Shooting, Stabbing, Etc. He might take a different stand on the C.P.D.'s strategy.
We understand that Garry has to carry out Rahms marching orders, but maybe once, he could publicly disagree with him with a an important safety issue, like manpower.
I agree that we need to hire hundreds more police officers, but we already have tough laws on the books for crime, it's just that the corrupt judges and lawyers don't enforce them. The court system is so light on criminals it's sickening! Only people actually involved in the system day to day see it. Outsiders have no idea how bad the court system is in cook county. Ask any shit head on the street and they will tell you nothing serious ever happens to them in court, so it's worth the risk to be dirty. In the end it's politicians that control the courts through the judges. Cook county is a place where crime does pay.
9/27/2012 12:01:00 PM
Where do you think the CCC operates? Who do you think works for them? The report indicated that more cases should be Fed cases, in case you didn't know that is not Cook County. You could also change the laws to take sentencing of certain crimes out of a Judges hand and enact a stiff mandatory minimum. That can only be done via legislation. Class dismissed, you Puke.
IMPORTANT
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Illinois Constitutional Amendment 49 sponsored by Madigan
The full text of CA 49 can be found here — of particular interest is paragraph D.
An interesting article concerning CA 49 can be found here.
The Illinois Community College Faculty Association's (ICCFA) position statement is here (Microsoft Word Document) and makes it very clear what this amendment is trying to change.
OT but a funny joke:
Two men were driving through Chicago when they got pulled over by a cop. The
cop walks up and taps his nightstick on the window. The driver rolls down
the window and "WHACK," the cop smacks him in the head with his nightstick.
"What the hell was that for?" the driver asked.
"You're in Chicago, son," the cop answered. "When we pull you over in
Chicago, you better have your license ready by the time we get to your car."
"I'm sorry, officer," the driver said, "I'm not from around here."
The cop runs a check on the guy's license--he's clean and gives the guy his
license back.
The cop then walks around to the passenger side and taps on
the window. The passenger rolls down the window and "WHACK," the cop smacks him on the head with the nightstick.
"What the hell did you do that for?" the passenger demands.
"Just making your wish come true," replied the cop
"Making WHAT wish come true?" the passenger asked.
"Because I know your type," the cop says, "two miles down the road you're
gonna turn to your buddy and say, 'I wish that asshole would've tried that
shit with me'."
"Harsher penalties" is a good idea, but it will never happen in Cook County because the majority of judges here are spineless political hacks who WILL NOT hand out the fullest sentence possible for violent offenders, which would keep them in jail longer, off the streets, thus lowering the violent crime rate.
The only alternative left is to hire more cops. We don't need 1,400 more ... because Mayor Daley REFUSED to replace retirees over the past decade, we need to hire 3,000 more. The sad part is that the city budget DOES have the money to pay for 3,000 more cops, IF the city would cut the fat, including cutting the City Council down to 15 members (national average for a city this size) and cut out all the wasteful spending.
What a shame ... we need 3,000 more cops, AND the City has the money to do it, but chooses not to for political reasons, spending the money elsewhere, including a "longer school day" that the City can't afford.
More and more black youths will continue to get shot and killed in Chicago, in part due to a decimated and under-staffed police department.
The time has come to somehow remove from office, Mayor Emanuel and the ENTIRE City Council. Their incompetence, selfishness, greed, lack of true concern for our escalating homicide rate, and refusal to hire 3,000 more cops is unacceptable.
We cannot truly make a dent in the epidemic of murdering savages committing all of these homicides without 3,000 more cops patrolling the streets.
People of Chicago, WAKE UP!
I smell a skunkity skunk skunk. Magic number = 1,400?
Why 1400? Why not 1500?
Something is amiss. City will take the advice or something, this is not coincidence.
013th District Copper said...
Yes we need more cops on the street. As for harsher punishment, the laws on the books are stiff enough. Its the judges that believe everyone deserves probation and the State's Attorneys who are so willing and able to cut a deal so they don't have to actually try the case.
I seem to recall that a felony is a crime punishable by at least one year in jail. Hmmmmm.....at least one year in jail? I can't even tell you how many felonies I've gotten where they get 1 year probation.
9/27/2012 08:16:00 AM
Felony, one year or more in prison. A class "A" misdemeanor is up to one year in jail.
Guys complain about Madigan,but he keeps getting reelected.So, who's voting for him? Insane.
013th District Copper said...
Yes we need more cops on the street. As for harsher punishment, the laws on the books are stiff enough. Its the judges that believe everyone deserves probation and the State's Attorneys who are so willing and able to cut a deal so they don't have to actually try the case.
I seem to recall that a felony is a crime punishable by at least one year in jail. Hmmmmm.....at least one year in jail? I can't even tell you how many felonies I've gotten where they get 1 year probation.
9/27/2012 08:16:00 AM
Felony, one year or more in prison. A class "A" misdemeanor is up to one year in jail.
This is what the HJRCA bill says about our pension:
ILCON Art. XIII, Sec. 5.1 new
Synopsis As Introduced
Proposes to amend the General Provisions Article of the Illinois Constitution. Provides that no bill, except a bill for appropriations, that provides a benefit increase under any pension or retirement system of the State, any unit of local government or school district, or any agency or instrumentality thereof, shall become law without the concurrence of three-fifths of the members elected to each house of the General Assembly. Provides requirements for passage if the Governor vetoes a bill or returns a bill with specific recommendations for change. Provides that no ordinance, resolution, rule, or other action of the governing body, or an appointee or employee of the governing body, of any unit of local government or school district that provides an emolument increase to an official or employee that has the effect of increasing the amount of the pension or annuity that an official or employee could receive as a member of a pension or retirement system shall be valid without the concurrence of three-fifths of the members of that governing body. Provides that no action of the governing body, or an appointee or employee of the governing body, of any pension or retirement system created or maintained for the benefit of officers or employees of the State, any unit of local government or school district, or any agency or instrumentality thereof that results in a beneficial determination shall be valid without the concurrence of three-fifths of the members of that governing body. Defines terms. Effective January 9, 2013.
Question: Its ironic that those who wasted the pension funds will be the ones to decide whether we receive any increases in our pension. What if we get raises after Jan. 2013? Are they saying if this constitutional amendment goes through, that our pensions will be frozen at the salary we received prior to Jan 2013?
I don't remember hearing that there would be a constitutional amendment regarding our pensions on this November election.
Did I miss something or has the pension board and FOP board not mentioned this? I thought there had to be a FOP committee consulted when these bills/amendments are introduced? Isn't Donahue the lobbyist in springfield and Shields on pension board? At the very least there should be radio spots, press releases to the public and maybe a billboard or two encouraging a vote of no. The election is in a little more than 30 days. Thanks to the post that alerted us.
Unless Rahm al Ghoul has plans to make the taxpayers whole for the @ 5000 coppers who have left the job since Y2K? Anything less is seriously pissing in the wind...
Before you flamers flame... Think really hard about the number 5000...
EVERY DISTRICT (25) before "The Great Consolidation To Hide A Serious Manpower Shortage" was down approximately 200 officers compared to their late 1990's staffing levels.
IT's TRIGGER HAPPY TUESDAY!
BUST-A-CAP 400 --
Check your scorecards people tonight maybe the night that Chicago breaks the 400 homicide mark for the year.
Guys complain about Madigan,but he keeps getting reelected.So, who's voting for him? Insane.
You already know who's voting him back in, time and time again. It's the legions of people out there where many of you cops live on the SW side of Chicago who have good paying 'connected' jobs due to the fact that they kiss that Madigan's nutsack every time he calls them and tells them that they have to go out and 'get out the vote.'
AND IT WILL NEVER CHANGE.
"Ever hear Obama claim that the criminal justice system is racist?"
When in doubt, whip it out!
(The race card, that is)
rb
9/27/2012 06:13:00 PM
you left out the part about the three midget hookers in the trunk.
and the State's Attorneys who are so willing and able to cut a deal so they don't have to actually try the case.
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A fine example, just recently is one of their own. The ASA that was out on the town with her boy friend, drunk out of their skulls. She attacks the owner of a store because he told them to leave. She bites his leg, breaking the skin and felony charges are NOT approved?
Anonymous said...
How about that. Been saying the same thing about hiring more Police for a couple of years now. It's out of the bag now. Time to hire a few thousand more Police! It's for the children you know, as Rhambo likes to say. The city needs to hire more Police NOW!
9/27/2012 01:42:00 PM
The sad news is that city hall said to hire 500 recruits now. But one huge problem. TRACY LADNER! She has screwed up the entire hiring process and cannot send qualified candidates to the academy. Tracy and HR cancelled the class of recruits for the end of September! Very last minute notice. She cannot even put a list together and give a week notice. Imagine what out of town recruits and military veterans who left the military to join are feeling? 24 hours or less notice the class is cancelled? No pay check for possibly a month or more until the next class starts the academy. THis is an embarassment to the CPD.
The biggest problem is that the City and Police Dept. will throw a P.O. under the Federal Bus for Political grand standing!
I sat in Federal Court over "false allegations" a few years back and when I looked around the room no boss was there to support me in my wrongful case!
So now my attitude now is of self preservation, get my pension and leave Chicago as soon as possible!
Something for you young gunners to think about for your future, from an old veteran!
Da Pelon
9/27/2012 09:25:00 AM
Funny thing is you are not alone, I had a week long civil trial in federal court where I was being sued NOT the City just me. Why you ask well because the lawfirm missed the fiing date for the city but managed to tag me and my partner instead.
And I feel your pain because while we were sitting there, NOT ONE EXEMPT showed up for our trial to support us. Hell we didn't even see our Lt., but we did have two Sgt.'s show up.
I can also say they do not give a rats ass about us when it comes down to it, take the money and run when you can. Pension money that is not traffic stops. LOL
Anonymous said...
seems no matter what CPD does
J-Fled still "haunts" the halls
is it possilbe he is waiting in the wings in case Tiny Dancer loses it with the StreetLightMarksMan
they knew all along that they were short on manpower but they couldn't go against the "party line"
now it's so obviouis even thay can't deny it
(pretty bad whin the FBI won't accept your statistics)
9/27/2012 11:20:00 AM
If you look at the FBI crime stats, Chicago stats ARE counted. I didn't know that until I looked at the stats on the LEO website. Chicago IS in there, including the index crimes, and there's nothing to indicate it's a partial total. Seems like that thing about FBI not counting Chicago stats is either a rumor or it's gone by the wayside.
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