FOP Endorsements
We went over to their page and this appears to be true:
- So let me get this straight, Mikey Sellout Shields and Dan I hide under my desk Gorman endorse Martwick a Son of a Democrat machine operative from NORRIDGE to rep Jeff Park over a Chicago Cop in the primary. NOW, They don't endorse him in the general. You two are really stupid.
So Martwick isn't good enough to get an endorsement in the general election, but if he's running against a Chicago cop, he gets the endorsement lest she win and throw a wrench into Machine operations? Are we getting this right?
Someone want to explain? And don't fall back on her allegedly poor performance before the political action committee or whatever they are - we want to know why the FOP isn't backing their choice all the way to the swearing in ceremony. Because if our reps aren't there when they take the oath of office, there's no way they're taking our calls when legislation is up.
And why the fuck are we endorsing Anita Alvarez again?
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
82 Comments:
"And why the fuck are we endorsing Anita Alvarez again?"
The question is - why have police at all if you're going to have a State's Attorney like this?
And why the fuck are we endorsing Anita Alvarez again? -----------------------------------
I was wondering the same God Damn Thing!!
Fuck the sellout FOP and their machine political hack fuck heads.
Anita has no use for CPD, and never hashad . Her newest lapdog, Ex. ISP boss Shorty Garcia has made it his mission to "clean the CPD out" of of SAO. No working cop should vote for ths two faced bitch.
"And why the fuck are we endorsing Anita Alvarez again?"
because an FOP endorsement is the kiss of death?
why ?
because they have all been bought or compromised.
No way Mikey, or his team will be re-lected.
When I saw Anita's name on there, they lost all credibility with me.
SCC, you're too vague for me. Can you elaborate or give us a little more help with who "SHE" is?
Just because a cop's running for office don't make they qualified.
The FOP or the newspapers shouldn't be endorsing anyone. If you aren't educated or informed enough to make your own decision, you should not be voting anyway. People or organizations telling people how to vote is how we got into the mess we're in.
Mike is a one term wonder. Hope selling out your own was worth it, little boy. I'm sure Madigan will take good care of you. Not like he's ever stabbed anyone in the back before, so I'm sure you'll be fine.
And somewhere, Bella is enjoying retirement, watching it all crumble.
leverage is what is needed in contract negotiations, otherwise you rely on charity of the city. dump one of their kind like anita and see what happens. this contract wont be settled for a while after the election. wait till the teachers see what rahm has up his sleeve.
just so we all know who Martwick's Daddy is
A former Assistant States Attorney, Bob Martwick tried over 60 felony jury trials. Mr. Martwick has lectured at DePaul University School of Law, the Illinois Institute for Continuing Legal Education, and was appointed by the Illinois Supreme Court to serve on the Committee on Character and Fitness. [That's a joke!] Mr. Martwick has served as the Democratic Committeeman of Norwood Park Township since 1969 and currently serves as Secretary of Cook County Democratic Party.
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Berrios celebrates in 2007 with Robert Martwick Sr. (right) after party leader select Berrios to lead Cook County’s Democratic Party. Martwick, the secretary of the party in Cook County, is also a tax appeals attorney who appears before the Board of Review.
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/October-2010/Joseph-Berrios-Candidate-for-Cook-County-Assessor-and-the-Ultimate-Political-Insider/index.php?cparticle=3&siarticle=2
If at least half of us quit the fop maybe some of the ball less ass kising idiots may follow.
I am so tired of hearing go to a meeting. My answer is this... What the fuck am I paying you for then FOP? Every damn one of you is a sellout. Dineen, Nolan, Marc and the diaper boy.
I wouldnt call on the FOP for anything anymore. I will just go to the EOC. The FOP will do as they always do. WELLLLLL I dont know... WELLLL I dont have the general orders in front of me!
Go to hell FOP!
when the FOP endorses some one the FOP gives them some of our money.
Anita Alvarez, seriously? Thank you for reinforcing that I can trust nobody but the officer in the seat next to me. We need to start our collective bargaining unit over from scratch...God bless all of the guys in blue.
Let's not forget they also ENDORSED Madigan, the architect of CA 49; yeah, he's our "friend".
Shields is in Way over his head! Should of Never been given the chance..... I believe in mixing it up, especially when we had what we did at the Hall. But regretably, voting him in was a mistake. He is a spoiled brat, an ego-maniac, and has zero idea what he's doing or how to run the FOP. When is his term up?
Have felt this for a long time, the FOP is just a political pile of shit, it is nature to evolve that way... won't be a bad idea to dump them for PBPA or another that would bust their ass for who they sevre, just for a few years to see if they change there ways....
Alvarez....you got to be fucking kidding
Johnny Garrido for Governor!! NOT
The FOP is a social club where the leaders their friends and families are well taken care of and sometimes they help out a copper.
His team is fracturing.
We are endorsing Anita to protect Vanecko, Daley. They don't want the truth to come out. It's called "getting away with murder."
Shame on the F.O.P.
Are you F'ing serious, Alvarez? Don't you think it's time to change the face of the SAO?
Doesn't she decline to prosecute some of the worst scum this city has to offer?
Is martwick running unopposed in this upcoming nov election? Is that what fop will say as to why they didn't endorse him again (not that I agree)?
I never got a vote on who to endorsefor election
Say NO to CA49 and ALL incumbent Democrates.
Save your job, Save your pension
Little Mikey Shields is nothing but a political wannabe sellout hack!
when is shields term up so we can vote him out.
Just threw the F.O.P. newsletter in the garbage.
A.A. will not indict Daley relatives, but will go after coppers without a second thought?
F. Her.
We should ask SHIELD'S why charges have never been brought against MARK P. DONAHUE for the Deamer case$$$$$ or charges against you, SHIEDS for the GEIGER cases$$$$$$$$ How much money have these three cases cost FOP. WHY HAS THE MEMBERSHIP NOT BEEN TOLD THE COST?
Just for informational purposes Martwick has no opponent in the general election which explains the lack of endorsement.
In order for the FOP to endorse any candidate, shouldn't it be decided by the membership? Who makes these decisions? WE are the UNION, They represent/work for us!
All displeased members should send a letter to FOP stating such!
hope that everyone realizes that Mike Shields will run for political office after he is not re elected for f.o.p. president, now do these endorsements make sense ?
I only vote Republican.
After someone explains why FOP is endorsing Anita Alvarez... then ask why last time around they also endorsed Mike Madigan.
I won't vote for anyone the FOP endorses.
OT
FOP or rather Mikey is endorsing Lappe as Pension Board Trustee. Again, why isn't the membership sent out a ballot on who FOP, the membership should endorse?
Do not vote for Lappe either! Bigger mistake than voting in Shields. Trust me, I know how self serving Lappe is. You saw him saluting in the ScumTimes. He lost the Grand Lodge election. Lappe only received 3 votes. Vote anyone else but Lappe! If he can endure the job for 24 years so can all injured officers!
Going straight republican in this election. And what the f, Fop endorses Alvarez? Mikey...your crazy to think she deserves our vote.
FOP endorses disabled, retirement eligible copper for the Active seat.
Active coppers already had no representation with Shields, now we have a second retiree on the board?
Retiree Hauser, Lt. member is ancient, the Sgt is young, (but a boss), and now there's a 60 year old disabled copper running as the "Active PO" That's the best candidate for beat cops.
Who does FOP represent, I'll tell you, the 600 retirees who showed at the last General Meeting -- Except Harold Brown and Ron Shogren.
FOP should NOT endorse any politician. What should be done is vote against any politician, judge, that does not benefit FOP interest.
Anonymous said...
"And why the fuck are we endorsing Anita Alvarez again?"
10/16/2012 12:06:00 AM
Simple answer is because her opponent is worse, a real whack job. See for yourselves:
http://www.lori2012.com
Martwick is running un-opposed, thus no endorsement is given. Stoppa has nothing to do with that.
Anonymous said...
FOP endorses disabled, retirement eligible copper for the Active seat.
Active coppers already had no representation with Shields, now we have a second retiree on the board?
Retiree Hauser, Lt. member is ancient, the Sgt is young, (but a boss), and now there's a 60 year old disabled copper running as the "Active PO" That's the best candidate for beat cops.
Who does FOP represent, I'll tell you, the 600 retirees who showed at the last General Meeting -- Except Harold Brown and Ron Shogren.
10/16/2012 08:40:00 PM
Mike Lappe was a beat cop, till the day he was shot. He is active PO, not retired. The Department offered him duty disability pension. Mike refused it and wanted to go back to work. He worked hard to rehab himself and came back to work.
His heart and soul are in this job. Say what you will but he is no slouch and I have no doubt he will give this job his total good effort. I am not sure if the term is 3 years or 4 but I spoke to him tonight and he said he could finish out his term. So, assuming he told the truth I see no reason he cannot have a fair shot at that office.
There are also other candidates, knowledgeable and concerned for police officers. I think Kevin Jans or Brock Merck would both do the job well.
Remember, there is no extra pay, he gets patrolman pay, no more.
Fill out your choice and mail it back in when you get that ballot, coming in the US Mail soon.
Anonymous said...
Fuck the sellout FOP and their machine political hack fuck heads.
10/16/2012 12:22:00 AM
My, how eloquently you express your heartfelt opinions. And your choice for political hack fuck head, er, ummm, elective office, would be who exactly?
Anonymous said...
Going straight republican in this election. And what the f, Fop endorses Alvarez? Mikey...your crazy to think she deserves our vote.
10/16/2012 07:29:00 PM
Vote for her opponent then and be sure to post your summary of how the other candidate is doing one year from now.
Anonymous said...
I never got a vote on who to endorsefor election
10/16/2012 12:47:00 PM
Yes, you are correct, you didn't get a vote because none were sent out. The Board of Directors vote on who to endorse after interviewing the candidates who ask for the endorsement. If they don't ask they aren't considered for endorsement, at the local level.
And if ballots were sent out you can bet the mortgage payment that not more than 30% would be returned, if that many.
Anonymous said...
I only vote Republican.
10/16/2012 04:32:00 PM
Then go to Anita Alvarez's opponent's website and read up on her. You do know it is a her, don't you? She is a Republican, at least that should make you happy.
http://www.lori2012.com
funny thing about endorsement is the politician hand out cash or favors!\
IF the FOP was getting favors i could respect that. But not a dime was put into the pact by any of the politician begging for endorsements.
The FOP board does not even have a plan on election day to get the word out about the attack on the pension.
So what does a PAC committee do?
feel free to chime in i'm all ears.
Retired CPD said...
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FOP or rather Mikey is endorsing Lappe as Pension Board Trustee. Again, why isn't the membership sent out a ballot on who FOP, the membership should endorse?
Do not vote for Lappe either! Bigger mistake than voting in Shields. Trust me, I know how self serving Lappe is. You saw him saluting in the ScumTimes. He lost the Grand Lodge election. Lappe only received 3 votes. Vote anyone else but Lappe! If he can endure the job for 24 years so can all injured officers!
10/16/2012 05:51:00 PM
How can we trust you on this when you post anonymously? If you want to give the guy a bad endorsement like that then post it and sign your own name and include an email address.
I trust the opinions of people who sign their postings and are willing to stand up and be counted.
Trust me on that.
Honestly,
Think if you want someone who bowed down to the Sun Times as the man who will represent us. We are in a position where those on disability are being used as pawns for the new contract. Mike Lappe gave the Sun Times an exclusive that made Chicago Police Officers look like dogs, while beating his own chest. Is this the person we want representing us. This is not about disability it is about our PENSIONS!!!!
FOP endorses disabled, retirement eligible copper for the Active seat.
Active coppers already had no representation with Shields, now we have a second retiree on the board?
Retiree Hauser, Lt. member is ancient, the Sgt is young, (but a boss), and now there's a 60 year old disabled copper running as the "Active PO" That's the best candidate for beat cops.
Who does FOP represent, I'll tell you, the 600 retirees who showed at the last General Meeting -- Except Harold Brown and Ron Shogren.
10/16/2012 08:40:00 PM
I'm confused, how can you be "active duty" working light duty spots for 25 years? Looks like FOP found an effective way to get around active officers. Don't need to get a vote from us if they can change by laws using only retirees. Nothing against retired brothers. Maybe the retirees will catch the next Constitutional Amendment slipped through. Can't count on the FOP to take care of biz. I'm not voting for anyone they endorse.
In order for the FOP to endorse any candidate, shouldn't it be decided by the membership? Who makes these decisions? WE are the UNION, They represent/work for us!
All displeased members should send a letter to FOP stating such!
10/16/2012 03:47:00 PM
That sounds too much like a real union. Lol! Coppers are only good for the dues money taken to fund lavish lifestyles. This is not a union. I don't know what it is.
If at least half of us quit the fop maybe some of the ball less ass kising idiots may follow.
I am so tired of hearing go to a meeting. My answer is this... What the fuck am I paying you for then FOP? Every damn one of you is a sellout. Dineen, Nolan, Marc and the diaper boy.
I wouldnt call on the FOP for anything anymore. I will just go to the EOC. The FOP will do as they always do. WELLLLLL I dont know... WELLLL I dont have the general orders in front of me!
Go to hell FOP!
10/16/2012 09:45:00 AM
I want out. Count me, my wife and two brothers as four.
when the FOP endorses some one the FOP gives them some of our money.
10/16/2012 09:48:00 AM
Disgusting! I do not authorize this. Did we sign some sort of agreement that allows them to speak for us politically?
Vote for John "Jack" Flisk for
Trustee- Chicago Police Pension Board
Ballots came out today!!!
Last time I checked Mike Lappe is not a disabled officer.
10/16/ 10:03 PM stated. What should be done is vote against.........
Isn't that what voting for the endorsed candidate accomplishes? Man, the logic some people use is incredible.
Anonymous said...
I never got a vote on who to endorsefor election
10/16/2012 12:47:00 PM
Yes, you are correct, you didn't get a vote because none were sent out. The Board of Directors vote on who to endorse after interviewing the candidates who ask for the endorsement. If they don't ask they aren't considered for endorsement, at the local level.
And if ballots were sent out you can bet the mortgage payment that not more than 30% would be returned, if that many.
10/16/2012 10:51:00 PM
Thank you for the response FOP. As usual the arrogant answers are so typical of many who talk to dues paying officers.
Good luck to all policemen running for the Pension Board Truste position. To each of you, thanks for stepping up. No need to rip anyone, just choose a candidate and give them a chance to serve us. I'm endorsing Campbell or Koszola. Maybe it is time for a smart female and accountant.
Anita again? I didnt endorse her the first time...
Had anyone bothered to ask someone who went to high school (Loyola Academy) with Rob Martwick, there would be no endorsement.
Anyone but LAPPE! Lappe weasled his way into the pension board favoritism and made a public humiliation of disabled police by having him pose in a saluting position picture, smiling how he was injured and returned to work. What people don't know is that he sued the police department and pension board to be given a limited job. Not other disabled officers got cushy desk jobs. HE SUED!!!!! Very close friends of sue freak Miller-Shemash. Remember the disability lug nut queen who is remaining on 75% duty disability for a non in-the-line of duty injury? She was paid by our pension fund to be a stay at home mother of twins!
A mistake was made electing Shields. If Lappe is elected, its a BIGGER MISTAKE! Vote for Flisk, Koszola or Jans!
Who cares who the FOP endorses?
I usually try to vote for the least corrupt pol.
Hey, 10-16 10:55PM.....
Soooo, Anita Alvarez's opponent is a Republican by the name of Lori Yokoyama. Who the hell gives a damn IF she is a Republican and female, as you somehow think is "undesirable."
VOTE Republican if you want the present socialist govt. out of our White House, out of our City of Chicago, state of Illinois, and out of your union.
http://www.loriyokoyama.com She is NO SOCIALIST, she IS a Republican who can bring this country back to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, NOT the same old, same old cronyism and corruption, demo-Sociaist Party style.
Had enough of the crap you've been dealing with in your profession, your city, this country? Then step up and make a change for the good.. for Illinois, for this country, for you and your family. It takes but that first step.
How can we trust you on this when you post anonymously? If you want to give the guy a bad endorsement like that then post it and sign your own name and include an email address.
I trust the opinions of people who sign their postings and are willing to stand up and be counted.
Trust me on that.
10/17/2012 12:37:00 AM
Sign your name, email and phone number and I will do the same, otherwise, GFY!
Lappe is a city hall plant put in by Shields.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/13688918-452/shot-in-throat-cop-fought-to-return-to-work.html
I voted Flisk, he came to roll call and talked...nobody else did.
Anonymous said...
How can we trust you on this when you post anonymously? If you want to give the guy a bad endorsement like that then post it and sign your own name and include an email address.
I trust the opinions of people who sign their postings and are willing to stand up and be counted.
Trust me on that.
10/17/2012 12:37:00 AM
Sign your name, email and phone number and I will do the same, otherwise, GFY!
10/17/2012 02:44:00 PM
You first.
I wan't bum rapping anybody, you were. If I have a harsh criticism of another police officer, I do sign my posts.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I never got a vote on who to endorsefor election
10/16/2012 12:47:00 PM
Yes, you are correct, you didn't get a vote because none were sent out. The Board of Directors vote on who to endorse after interviewing the candidates who ask for the endorsement. If they don't ask they aren't considered for endorsement, at the local level.
And if ballots were sent out you can bet the mortgage payment that not more than 30% would be returned, if that many.
10/16/2012 10:51:00 PM
Thank you for the response FOP. As usual the arrogant answers are so typical of many who talk to dues paying officers.
10/17/2012 09:31:00 AM
I pay dues also. And I work in a district, not for FOP. Familiarize yourself with the endorsement process. To get one from FOP you have to ask for it, in writing. The FOP always has asked for and rarely received, letters or statements from officers who have some reason why a candidate should not get the FOP endorsement. I typically do that with judges who show a definite anti police attitude in court. And it has worked more often than not. If you have a real beef against someone, put it in writing well ahead of the election and send it to the board through the president or 1st vice president.
It costs at least 10 or 15 thousand to do a mailing to all officers and more with a ballot inside. And then there is the cost of tabulating what they get back. That 30% number is accurate. Usually the return rate is less than that.
Even for an election for officers. And for that they send out self addressed envelopes with stamps on them. People still send those back via police mail in spite of clear instructions to use US Mail only because they only accept ballots from that PO Box or in person on election day.
So really, I wasn't giving you an arrogant answer, I was telling you the truth as I have seen it over the past 27 years.
WOW, hoodwinked??? That's his word of the year, hoodwinked?
Campbell, jans, kozola, mccall, merck, an the swat guy. What do they all have in common? The only time they were ever at the pension board was to pick up and drop off their petitions to run for office.
Lappe hasn't missed a meeting in years. He actually knows what transpires there. That has to count for something.
Who is the FOP endorsing for President of The United States of America?
This was posted on True News Blog:
"The FOP strongly urges you to vote for Mike Lappe for Pension Board Trustee."
Comments sections is closed.
Wonder why Mikey Boy?? You don't want the truth out. Well its coming out and I will be going to newspapers and investigative reporters..How do like them apples?
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Strongly urges means a threat if he is not elected. Officers, do you homework and read the sun times article. You Do not want anyone in office associated with the city, FOP or connections. Offcers will be screwed over thousand times! He knows nothing about finances, nor accounting. Vote Koszola, CPA if you want brainac..
Campbell, jans, kozola, mccall, merck, an the swat guy. What do they all have in common? The only time they were ever at the pension board was to pick up and drop off their petitions to run for office.
Lappe hasn't missed a meeting in years. He actually knows what transpires there. That has to count for something.
10/17/2012 08:33:00 PM
Get outta here. Do you really want to go there? What those officers have in common is they are full duty, not light duty. Yeah know the other guy is said to be full duty but that's not really true as far as assignment. So he sued and spent a lot of time down there. With your theory, all disabled officers that go down there are qualified too! I bet less than 1% of full duty officers go to pension board meetings. Where the hell are they posted? Never seen it. Doesn't mean cops don't care. Someone disabled like the one candidate is gonna be down there anyway. That's bs to even use as a criteria.
Campbell spoke at our roll call a few nights ago. It was good to put a face to the name but that's the only one we met. I guess we were too far south for the other candidates. She made excuses for them saying they weren't given enough time to do all the roll calls. I don't know she seemed sincere so I'll let you guys off the hook. I voted for her for making the effort.
Vote for someone who knows what is going on not someone who uses the Sun Times to make himself look good, while making other officers look bad. It is great that Mike Lappe was able to come back to work. This does not make him the right man for the job. Please put someone in who will look out for us. Not man at the end of his career looking to make a name for himself. Hoodwinked c'mon does he really even know what is going on out there.
From: John Flisk, Candidate for Patrolman’s Trustee Chicago Police Pension Board
Like you, I am and have always been concerned with the welfare and funding of our pension. Over the years, we've watched as our pension fund has dropped to a dangerously low 39.7% funded. We've seen underhanded "insider" deals like the one given to former Mayor Daley's nephew that contributed to dramatic investment losses. And we see politicians making attempts to change our protected pension by trying to change our State Constitution.
As a result, I feel I need to do something more than complain and that's why I decided to run for Trustee.
Once elected:
· I will never vote “yes” to any investment that does not 100% benefit the membership.
· I will maintain a website to keep members informed of everything from votes cast by the other Trustees to proposals presented to the Board for consideration.
· I will keep members up-to-date on pending legislation regarding public pensions, such as Constitutional Amendment 49.
· I will be a vocal spokesman for the pensioners. The Patrolman’s Trustee represents the most members of the pension, and I believe the Trustee needs to be aggressively vocal on behalf of the members.
I have visited rolls calls in every Police District; talking with police officers and answering their questions. I am the only candidate running for this position who considers this election important enough to take the time to talk to my fellow officers. There is more to running for this position than getting my name on the ballot, leaving some flyers around the stations, and hoping I win. I will be equally dedicated and tireless in representing your interests on the Pension Board.
Brotherhood is very important to me. This election is not about my winning, but about giving everyone the opportunity to vote for the person who can do the best job. Don’t vote for someone just because you worked with them, or because they’re “nice,” or because the FOP tells you to do so. Vote for the person who is best for the job. If I lose to the better candidate, then we all benefit. But I am confident I am that person, and I hope I have your vote and support.
Thank You.
Jack Flisk
Endorsing anita alverez? WTF is going on at FOP? IF this shitbird gets elected again it's time to clean house at FOP!Fuck this fence jumping bitch.Wake up FOP or face the troops when you return to duty.
Anonymous said...
Who is the FOP endorsing for President of The United States of America?
10/17/2012 10:13:00 PM
No endorsement.
Unit Reps were asked to poll the membership at roll calls. Too few responses were received. I know, "they should'a sent out ballots to 'da membership, fucking FOP."
And those ballots would still be sitting on PO's dressers or kitchen tables at Christmas time like they usually are.
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