This Stuff Will Kill You
- Hostess Brands announced Friday that it is winding down operations and has filed a motion with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court seeking permission to close its business and sell its assets, including its iconic brands and facilities.
Over 1,000 jobs in Illinois alone, and more than a few other brands tanking with the snack cakes.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
126 Comments:
These employees sure received great advice from their union. I wonder how long it'll be before they're able to find new jobs in this current job market.
I don't know if I wan to live in a world where my only snack cake choice is from Litttle Debbie
Ho hos were the best.
Blame Rahm,
Rahm is the guy taking all the snacks out of the city building vending machines. Rahm is destroying jobs.
Hope you're happy now Rahm. Have another sip of your $3/bottle bottled water as the city goes to hell.
They pushed the union to the edge and the union said no mas.
Hostess tripled CEO and executive pay and they wanted union members to take yet another cut in wages and in health care benefits that amounted to a 17% cut.
Suck it Hostess. Another bakery will replace you.
I always liked Ding-Dongs first because they are delicious and second because the name reminds me of all the crazy people that are outside the squad window when you drive down the street.
Mmmmmmmmmm...golden sponge cake with creme filling
They were all over blaming the unions and a strike for the Hostess shut down, but the real story is they were trying to break the unions, union workers have given up many benefits in the past but the company wanted to crush the pensions, the workers refused to give up more and struck.
Then the CEO of Hostess was awarded a 300 percent raise (from approximately $750,000 to $2,550,000) and at least nine other top executives of the company received massive pay raises before closing the business...
Maybe they closed.......for the children. Rahms mantra would fit right in there somewhere.
Read: Hostess mis-management
http://forums.applecentral.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/585778/Acumowchek#Post585778
I stocked-up on Twinkies in case of a zombie invasion. This is MUCH worse.
Yep as the mayor continues his non-stop attack of words, trying to redefine them to mean something else.
Word's like "World-Class City" implying that Chicago meets that commonly defined category of World-Class.
Welp mayor, if that's the case why is it that the neighboring states have an unemployment rate that is about one full percentage point lower than us? World-Class city? Ahhh Nope. Not even a World-Class State. Just a bunch of crooked amoral politicians violating the social contract by stealing peoples pensions -- then instead of prosecuting the thieves blame the victims and proclaim how you're gonna save them by reforming their pensions by taking even more wealth away from the people that played by the rules.
Hard to believe that they will get away with it untouched like the bankers and corporate exec's.
Not a single "pension reform" act proposed asks for the corporations to pay a little more in taxes or to give the tax breaks back. Follow the money ppl. Those tax breaks were funded in part from everyone's pension. It's a Grand Bargain transfer of wealth but not to the middle class joe on Food Stamps. It's going to the billion dollar corporate whores who fund the mayors and others campaign funds.
From what I understand there was a union and a non union working there. The Teamsters and union voted to strike, Now everyone is unemployed and on the 99 week unemployment plan. Thanks Obama. It'll cost the American public tons of money, but what do you care?
With all the freaking billionaires in this country you would think one of them like Gates, Buffet, Soros, or that little weiner Zuckerberg would swoop in and save the iconic company.
Seriously wtf??
And so it begins ………..
I guess the Union showed those evil capitalists! Now do you think the over-paid Union bosses will share their bloated salaries with the unemployed dues paying workers?
Food for thought...
A Twinkie which was suppose to be able to survive through a nuculear holocaust could not survive 4 more years of Obama economics.
.....Anonymous said...
These employees sure received great advice from their union. I wonder how long it'll be before they're able to find new jobs in this current job market......
Wait till you see what Rahm does to the FOP Contract, then let's hear from you again.
Are you ready for a deep cut in pay and benefits?
Anonymous said...
Mmmmmmmmmm...golden sponge cake with creme filling
11/17/2012 12:29:00 AM
Creme? That stuff was in the pyramids with the pharaohs 3,000 years ago! It doesn't change, rot or go stale. But it was good.
My personal favorite is Hostess cupcakes with the same mystery white stuff inside.
NOOOOOOOO not those delicious spongy yellow bastards!!!!!!
The teamsters signed on with the contract. The other union didn't. I think it was just a bunch of greedy union SOBs who drove this company under. Enjoy unemployment you dumb shits. Once that runs out see what you can sell off at the local pawn shops.
Twinkies and Hostess products have been named as "edible food like substances " and the worst stuff to eat by nutritionists - goodbye Twinkies
"...they wanted union members to take yet another cut in wages and in health care benefits that amounted to a 17% cut."
83% of something or 100% of nothing..which is better. Good to see the CPS is still cranking out math wizards.
Another classic example of how unions screw people. Couldn't make a deal, now 18,000 peeps are looking for a new job. Nice goin!!!
Their union is as useless as ours...
I am sure unemployment was better than what was offered by Hostess. Say union yes!
Wayda go, UNION!
How can you blame Obama for the missmanagement of Hostess, which had problems dating back to '03!!! Execs recieving 300% salary increases and such. Uninformed or shall I say missinformed individuals making comments on matters they KNOW NOTHING about.
Mary Mitchell is suing Hostess because even the center of a Twinkie is White, and thats what is causing obesity in the black community.
Anonymous said...
They were all over blaming the unions and a strike for the Hostess shut down, but the real story is they were trying to break the unions, union workers have given up many benefits in the past but the company wanted to crush the pensions, the workers refused to give up more and struck.
Then the CEO of Hostess was awarded a 300 percent raise (from approximately $750,000 to $2,550,000) and at least nine other top executives of the company received massive pay raises before closing the business...
11/17/2012 12:32:00 AM
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And what state was the companys 2 bankruptcy's filed?
Who is the bankruptcy judge that allowed/permitted this?
Good riddance haven't eaten this crap in years. Best thing I did a few years back is change my diet, get in shape, lose some extra weight. This is crap even there so called whole wheat bread.
Not a single "pension reform" act proposed asks for the corporations to pay a little more in taxes or to give the tax breaks back. Follow the money ppl. Those tax breaks were funded in part from everyone's pension. It's a Grand Bargain transfer of wealth but not to the middle class joe on Food Stamps. It's going to the billion dollar corporate whores who fund the mayors and others campaign funds.
11/17/2012 12:52:00 AM
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Not a single pension reform proposal asks for the politicians to give back what they have stolen.
From the wall street journal
"The snack giant endured $52 million in workers' comp claims in 2011, according to its bankruptcy filing this January. Hostess's 372 collective-bargaining agreements required the company to maintain 80 different health and benefit plans, 40 pension plans and mandated a $31 million increase in wages and health care and other benefits for 2012.
Union work rules usually required cake and bread products to be delivered to a single retail location using two separate trucks. Drivers weren't allowed to load their own vehicles, and the workers who loaded bread weren't allowed to load cake. On most delivery routes, another "pull up" employee moved products from back rooms to shelves.
This year management negotiated concessions from some of the unions, including the Teamsters, but the bakers rejected a last and best offer in September. Then the courts gave Hostess unilateral authority to modify collective-bargaining contracts, prompting the strike. So now it will liquidate, instead of attempting to emerge from Chapter 11 intact.
The 18,500 layoffs are equal to about 11% of the net new jobs the entire U.S. economy created in October. The unions are blaming private equity, or Bain Capital, or capitalism, but the election is over. And so is Hostess"
The sad part is that the 99 months of unemployment is probably a bonus over the paycheck.
Unions are necessary to protect workers from ruthless management. But when a union goes wild, who protects the workers? Ya sure, elections, but we all know how bullcrap sells elections.
I bet the fiscal cliff negotiations dont touch the old buddy system for the few billionaires. ITs the middle guy "millionaires" that are going to get screwed. The elete that wont be touched. The president wants us to be a two tier class system. The rich and poor. He'll tax the middle to death until he makes them poor.
"With all the freaking billionaires in this country you would think one of them like Gates, Buffet, Soros, or that little weiner Zuckerberg would swoop in and save the iconic company."
I don't think that's the secret to becoming or staying a billionaire. Go back to watching "Miracle on 34th St."
Here we go.... Next up - a number of companies slashing full time to part time so they dont have to pay insurance, then massive numbers of people getting fired since they would rather be on unemployment.
Welcome to the new world. Cannot wait till all the idiot bleeding hearts start complaining - i told you so just wont cut it.
I guess the Union showed those evil capitalists! Now do you think the over-paid Union bosses will share their bloated salaries with the unemployed dues paying workers?
11/17/2012 01:58:00 AM
Probably as much as the over-paid millionaire CEO's of Hostess would have. I'm sure the $12.00 an hour employees will be just fine collecting unemployment and then finding a new $12.00 an hour McJob. Look at the bright side, the corporate kings and queens can just use their millions to open up another business without union employees and pay the serfs $8.25 an hour with no benefits. I'm sure they'll all be floating away from this with their golden parachutes filled with millions of dollars. Don't they always? How about we quit blaming unions and the little working guys that are just trying to make a living and support their families and start blaming these greedy corporate fat cats that can just never seem to squeeze enough millions out of a company. They have the workers taking pay cuts, benefit cuts, and cheating them out of their meager pensions while they're increasing their million dollar a year salaries and then they point at the evil unions and greedy $12.00 an hour employees and say it's their fault the company has to file bankruptcy. Doesn't any of this sound familiar? The city is constantly pulling this same type of shit. They have money for every entitlement and welfare program out there in order to keep those votes rolling in but they have no money for the city worker's pensions. They always seem to vote themselves raises too while they're turning their pockets inside out during contract negotiations with our evil, greedy unions. Wake up everyone. It's the same old shit. It's a feudal system under a different veil. Now get back to work peasants.
OT: In Petraeus Scandal, FBI Has Explaining to Do
FBI still sucks, still true, never talk to the FBI and never trust an FBI agent.
Read this one:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-15/in-petraeus-scandal-fbi-has-explaining-to-do.html
I cant stand "little debbies Kirbys!"
They taste funny and just aren't pretty to look at!
Anonymous said...
From what I understand there was a union and a non union working there. The Teamsters and union voted to strike, Now everyone is unemployed and on the 99 week unemployment plan. Thanks Obama. It'll cost the American public tons of money, but what do you care?
11/17/2012 01:16:00 AM
Yep, let's blame Obama for union busting. Obama must be the reason the CEO's pay tripled too. Damn democrats. Go crawl back into your hole dipshit.
$$$
Bakeries close, attorneys make $, bankruptcy filing, attorneys make $, bakery assets sold, attorneys make $, new Chinese company comes in restarts production, attorney make $, all new staff hired(at minimum wage),workers don't get crap, production of all new Dong Ding chocolate cake, and all new Kwintie cream filled cake begins, former owners sues, attorneys make $, old workers all file bankruptcy, attorneys make $, old workers sell homes, attorneys make $.
-follow the money
11/17/2012 01:52:00 AM
swoop in? Yes, but not by an American. It will be reopened by Mexican or Chinese owners within year. But don't worry alderman Burke will be sure to provide some legal assis4ance $, and TIF $. You know, ... for bringing new jobs to the city........
OT- Did our 13 year old beat cop move to Florida? Just heard 14 year old boy down there worked as doctor for a week in an ER. Caught, arrest bonded out, low and behold arrested again for impersonating a police officer...tell me its not our little angel...
how much you wanna a bet those people voted for obama!
There are going to be plenty of Twinkies around. The company stated they are going to sell off the brands to another bakery,non-union, maybe in Mexico, and hire more Mexicans there for $2.00 an hour. They said fuck your unions.
Ho-ho's were in 013 (Western/Madison).
Twinkles still in 023 (New 019).
The brand name recognition lives on.
My hang down needs a Ho-Ho or on Halsted street my ding dong needs a Twinkie. What will I do if Hostess is gone????? When it comes down to it, its all about the cupcakes!!!!!!!
They will sell their recipe to a company in Florida or Arizona (right to work state) No unions, Hire a bunch of illegal Guatemalans for 2.00 an hour with no benefits. The former Union employees will be able to buy the same product with their LINK card we will bew paying for. HO HO HO
I guess the Union showed those evil capitalists! Now do you think the over-paid Union bosses will share their bloated salaries with the unemployed dues paying workers?
11/17/2012 01:58:00 AM
The only things that were bloated were the CEO and executive compensation packages. Corporate mngt are much like Chicago politicians, steal what you can and then blame the people you were supposed to be looking out for. Admittedly, executive compensation is a lower part of a company's operating cost compared to labor because there are fewer of them, but it's disgusting all the same. A company could hire a recent MBA graduate to be the CEO, pay the kid 50,000/year and the company would be no worse off than before.
can't obama lend hostess the money to stabilize their books just like he did for the automobile and banking industries--- they pay the money back later and you saved 18,000 jobs--- maybe obama doesn't like twinkies or snow balls....
Anonymous said...
From what I understand there was a union and a non union working there. The Teamsters and union voted to strike, Now everyone is unemployed and on the 99 week unemployment plan. Thanks Obama. It'll cost the American public tons of money, but what do you care?
11/17/2012 01:16:00 AM
You're an idiot.
Hostess.. They didnt build that
Jack G. 704 has just purchased several walk-in freezers to maintain his ding dong intake for future delight.
Too bad the union that shut down Hostess are not public school teachers. Then they could bribe the political class for more pay and benefits and hold families hostage during their strike, then the government could print more money to may the public sector unions and never have to worry about how they will get more money. But, this is a private company and has been bled dry and went under leaving 18000 without jobs. This movie is coming next to our cities and states.
They just auctioned off 3 unopened boxes of Twinkies on e-bay for $500.00. I like them but not that much.
Liberals.
They want 18,500 good paying jobs for Hostess & then tell people not to eat it because it's bad for you.
They want to keep gas expensive so as to "save" the environment & then wonder why car companies are in the shitter.
They want aggressive law enforcement & then throw Cozzi for a well deserved bitch-slap.
They want well-paying blue-collar jobs for Americans & then flood the system with illegals to take said jobs.
They want you to go to College and be a success, then proceed to excoriate once you are.
They want freedom of speech & go after Shaved because they don't like his blog.
I could go on and on, but I have to go take a liberal.
You are witnessing what is only the tip of the economic iceberg that is looming. If you thought the last four years were bad, soon you will be reminiscing them and how nice things were. Elections have consequences. Good luck to all of us, we're going to need it.
All of the jobs lost will never be replaced. Wait-they will create new part time jobs with minimal or no benefits and say the eeconomy is just fine. This country is slowly going down unfortunately.
Anonymous said...
From what I understand there was a union and a non union working there. The Teamsters and union voted to strike, Now everyone is unemployed and on the 99 week unemployment plan. Thanks Obama. It'll cost the American public tons of money, but what do you care?
11/17/2012 01:16:00 AM
Incorrect. The Teamsters, who represented nearly 2/3rds of the Hostess employees, agreed to concessions and urged the Baker's union to do the same.
I'm not sure what Obama has to do with a company continuing the ~40-yr trend of breaking private unions in this country.
Hey Rahm! Can your wife bake the cupcakes and draw the cool swirl stripe across the top? I really love those and will miss them the most while I'm drinking a cup of coffee in my parked squad!
Well it finally happen. Keith Richards has out lasted Twinkies.
only 153 bid spots in 016! Can the FOP please stop telling the media that we need more police so we can have more units!!! Wake the Fuck Up we need more P.O.s to defend the home land you fucken political hack!!
11/16/2012 11:55:00 PM
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"With all the freaking billionaires in this country you would think one of them like Gates, Buffet, Soros, or that little weiner Zuckerberg would swoop in and save the iconic company."
11/17/2012 01:52:00 AM
Swoop down and pick the eyes out, more like. These people are the problem. Some "hedge fund" investors were running Hostess into the ground. $2 1/2 billion annual sales and it wasn't enough for the looters. They drank deeply and tossed the empty away.
They had plants here in Schiller Park and Hodgkins.
"The Hostess plant in Hodgkins that produces Essential Everyday bread [for Jewel] also makes Beefsteak, Butternut, Home Pride, Nature's Pride and Wonder breads."
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/hostess-close-cites-nationwide-worker-123953115.html
Now it will be "Shortage!" and everyone else will raise bread prices.
weare always so focused on what executives make. what a diversion. The people who affect my bottom line the most are seated in places like Washington D.C., Sringfield and city hall. And by the way without accountability. We just accept what they do as law, not to be challenged. I don't worry about other peoples money, I worry about those who have unchecked power limiting my freedoms and confiscating my hard earned wealth and diminishing my ability to support my family.
"Suck it Hostess. Another bakery will replace you"
By a bakery in a right to work state and fuck you up there.
A box of 10 Twinkies cost almost $4.50. They are already over priced. No wonder they went under.
Ding Dong's were running the company with some of the most well known brand treats in US.
Greediness and mismanagement took the Twinkie down.
Ho Ho
so...i can no longer say ''eat me im a twinkie''?
Thousands of families without a pay check. Meanwhile management get retirement and benefits packages. Remind you of anything? Ans: CPD
Where's the tax payer funded bail-out? Hostess cup cakes and Ding Dongs are dark brown, aren't they? Where's Jessie? Where's Gutierrez?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-retired-chicago-cop-former-champion-bodybuilder-dies-20121113,0,3844901.story
I'M thinking that the people that own and operate Hostess were into make money not just employee people in unions
With all the freaking billionaires in this country you would think one of them like Gates, Buffet, Soros, or that little weiner Zuckerberg would swoop in and save the iconic company.
Seriously wtf??
11/17/2012 01:52:00 AM
Seriously? Maybe your fucked up community organizer president can give them a bail out.
Who gives a shit? What? Are you some shithead that lives on flamin hots and grape pop?
No Twinkie?!?!? How the hell will we survive.
As if the re-election of this idiot wasn't a big enough indictment of what had become of our society.
Some idiot in his mom's basement wants Bill Gates to save this 'iconic' company.
We had Baby Boomers, x, y and me generations. Now we have the Jackass Generation.
off topic: So sick of these dogs always taking the weekends off. Cars down we have to work our asses off so theses dogs can go out drinking and whatever. Same ones every weekend, what the fuck. Even the ones that have that pussy detail and sit in car all night and don't get jobs have to take off. Hey dog maybe us in the district that works our ass off from job to job might want it off. So everybody be safe since there short cars in all districts and back each other up...
Anonymous said...
These employees sure received great advice from their union. I wonder how long it'll be before they're able to find new jobs in this current job market.
11/17/2012 12:06:00 AM
After the company's "offer" of a cut in wages, and 17% increase in their insurance benfits AND no guarantee of any kind of full time hours, I get the feeling they wanted to take their chances with a new owner, which hopefully would use the same facilities to sell the Hostess product they bought ...
Last time I ate a twinkie it tasted dry as hell.
We still have Al Qaeda but they killed Twinkies.
Thanks Obama.
11/17/2012 10:57:00 AM
11/17/2012 11:42:00 AM
These two comments sum it all up. And to those of you who are crying about the "rich" venture capitalists and management, keep drinking the Kool-aid. Keep sucking down all that Dem-Obama class warfare-big government bullshit. Next year, with all the tax increases, you will be paying almost 50% of your wages in taxes. But hey, this is what you voted for!
The Teamsters begged the other union to accept the offer. The Teamsters knew what shape the company was in. Rather than give up 8% they gave up 100%. Seems like the union did more to hurt the employees than it did to help them.
"Hostess.. They didn't build that."
11/17/2012 09:39:00 AM
...but they will work it for all it's worth and then "sell the brands."
...and you always get these outfits you never heard of before claiming "98 years of quality." They trace back as far as they can through a dozen other companies that had nothing to do with the crap they sell today.
I saw the words "Old Fashioned" on some product in this huge aircraft hangar of a store just now, and I started laughing.
Four cents off, too. Don't do me any favors, Target.
First Rham, then McDingdong now this? What's next???
That ahole Wells & The greedyass CEO are to blame.
For you SCC:
Man stabbed in head at Mag Mile one hour before parade at 900 North Michigan Avenue:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49871354/ns/local_news-chicago_il/
racist peace of shit... why does everything have to be about race with some of you... This is simply a matter of economics and it's people of all walks of life that are being affected by this... quit it with the fricken stupid comments already... hope your not a cop...
those meager pensions were more than $100 million in cost tobhostess every year, and for what? what's the company gain from that? jack schit - a bunch of fools who continually demand more and more....
what's the union do to ADD value? what's a union employee do that's better than a non-union employee that makes it worth the adde cost? oh yeah, nothing.
if you run a company, you do it to make money - not to piss it away with demanding morons who threaten to grievance or strike.
hostess did the right thing. if those moron bakers dont believe it, they ought to buy it out and operate it themselves...
fucken unions are worthless and this just strengthens that point...
whats all the moaning these hostess workers were pullling down nover $$$$$$$$$ 80,000 with benefits .. now they are part of obama 's welfare army
Big business fucking the working man... Simple as that... Guarentee those shity sacks will be produced again.....
When I was on the job, I worked with a lot of Twinkies.
off topic: So sick of these dogs always taking the weekends off. Cars down we have to work our asses off so theses dogs can go out drinking and whatever. Same ones every weekend, what the fuck. Even the ones that have that pussy detail and sit in car all night and don't get jobs have to take off. Hey dog maybe us in the district that works our ass off from job to job might want it off. So everybody be safe since there short cars in all districts and back each other up...
11/17/2012 04:28:00 PM
You mean the mayors detail lol yep every weekend
Hello, Bimbo?
To 1024 pm:
You're a bitter one. I would gladly shut it down rather than be pushed around. Unions are not the problem, your FOP is... If you were given the option to keep working understaffed and out manned for 17% less money and no overtime, or walk off and collect unemployment, what would you do?
A police walk off would rattle the shit out of rahm.(I know you have a no strike policy, this is hypothetical) Private co or not, unions created the 40 hour work week, weekends off (at least 2 days off a week for you), benefits and leave time.
But I guess you can't understand that. Everything good about your job was fought for and won. YOU are part of the FOP's problem. I would like to read your well thought out response...
Mary Mitchell is suing Hostess because even the center of a Twinkie is White, and thats what is causing obesity in the black community.
11/17/2012 07:10:00 AM
Thanks for the laugh! Well put!
only 153 bid spots in 016! Can the FOP please stop telling the media that we need more police so we can have more units!!! Wake the Fuck Up we need more P.O.s to defend the home land you fucken political hack!!
11/16/2012 11:55:00 PM
Quit your bitching. They took away a load of bid spots in 011...Busier than you by a longshot and working with 60 fewer than you.
Twinkie farmers unite!
How can you blame Obama for the missmanagement of Hostess, which had problems dating back to '03!!! Execs recieving 300% salary increases and such. Uninformed or shall I say missinformed individuals making comments on matters they KNOW NOTHING about.
11/17/2012 07:04:00 AM
Uniformed, maybe. But I know when to use a spell checker.
More businesses will do the same. Take their billions and sit home and tell worker's thanks.
And now the jobs go to MEXICO??? Boycott Twinkies, dammit!!
Anonymous said...
only 153 bid spots in 016! Can the FOP please stop telling the media that we need more police so we can have more units!!! Wake the Fuck Up we need more P.O.s to defend the home land you fucken political hack!!
11/16/2012 11:55:00 PM
Just wait, soon there won't be any homeland to defend. We are being over run as it is. I hope someone remembers to transmit a Broken Arrow call and bring in the air strikes.
Please send in the Israeli Air Force and call up the Israeli Reserve units. There is at least one military unit left in the world that knows what to do and does it well. It's not a goddamn scandal over there when a General gets his knob polished. Why the hell is it such a scandal here?
Once again, the FBI is sticking it to the CIA, shades of J. Edgar Hoover.
OT - Any truth to the rumor that Lt. AS from 024 is going on 1st watch next year and Lt. JB from 1st watch is coming on 3rd watch???
The company does'nt need to be saved,this is a planned out job action by the company. Mark my words, in a short while, they will re-open ,non- union !!!!!!!!!!!!!
To all of you jagoff coppers talking trash about the FOP,STFU! The next time you go to court do not turn your slip in. The next time you get a late pinch,do not turn your slip in. YOUR FOP got that for you. Don't come on here lambasting unions. Idiots!
The Teamsters begged the other union to accept the offer. The Teamsters knew what shape the company was in. Rather than give up 8% they gave up 100%. Seems like the union did more to hurt the employees than it did to help them.
11/17/2012 06:29:00 PM
When Hostess filed for bankruptcy for the second time, it was mentioned in the court papers that they had plans on closing stores. This was months before the strike. Teamsters wanted them to take the 8% so they could keep getting the dues, not because they were concerned about their membership.
They want 18,500 good paying jobs for Hostess & then tell people not to eat it because it's bad for you.
They want to keep gas expensive so as to "save" the environment & then wonder why car companies are in the shitter.
They want aggressive law enforcement & then throw Cozzi for a well deserved bitch-slap.
They want well-paying blue-collar jobs for Americans & then flood the system with illegals to take said jobs.
They want you to go to College and be a success, then proceed to excoriate once you are.
They want freedom of speech & go after Shaved because they don't like his blog.
I could go on and on, but I have to go take a liberal.
11/17/2012 10:57:00 AM
Give the Cozzi "woe is me" a rest already. Geesh! Amazing how you guys always say to be mindful that a camera is always recording then he does something stupid on camera and now he is somehow a victim.
Those railing at management need to take a much closer look at who ran Hostess:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2012/11/17/politicos-cirilli-others-ignore-heavy-democrat-involvement-hostess-manag
I'm not sure what Obama has to do with a company continuing the ~40-yr trend of breaking private unions in this country.
Obamacare
Someone goes into business to make money. They have an idea for a product, research and market that product, hire people who can be trained to make the product. That is the nature orf business. If you are working for someone and you dont like the pay and benefits you have choices. You can stay on the job and complaint or you can quit and find another job. If a company is smart they pay enough to keep their good employees and avoid the pitfalls of poor or untrained people and the expense of training new employees. Then the union comes in and they demand more and more. The company ceases to be competitive and they either go out of business or leave the country. Now, you can complain what the company pays its executives, but that is none of your business. This is not a socialist country where the managers make the same money as the workers. And, you wonder, why in a world economy that there are few jobs in the USA? Really?
Little Debbie's can duplicate most of that stuff, but when you mess with my Twinkees, we're going to have a problem.
Hostess had planned the bankruptcy long ago. Waited for the proper time so they can blame it on some underpaid working slugs. Years of mis-management, corporate greed sunk this ship long time ago. Kinda like the United States Of America.
"Uninformed or shall I say missinformed individuals making comments on matters they KNOW NOTHING about."
11/17/2012 07:04:00 AM
"Uniformed, maybe. But I know when to use a spell checker."
11/18/2012 04:02:00 AM
Right.
Glad that you're in uniform.
"Twinkies and Hostess products have been named as "edible food like substances " and the worst stuff to eat by nutritionists - goodbye Twinkies"
11/17/2012 05:54:00 AM
Food cranks -- like our Mayor and all the other Wellness Ladies -- operate under the fallacies that everyone eats Twinkies all the time, and that everyone is a child who doesn't know any better and needs to have things pulled away from him by others.
I liked those chocolate cupcakes with the squiggle. Got the urge maybe every ten years or so but it was good to know that they were there...now, that Fruit Pie of theirs was just enough to get you home sometimes.
I am sorry for all the people who are going to be out of work. The company doesn't want its displays back from stores or anything, that is it.
Here, the web sites they put up.
http://hostessbrands.com/Closed.aspx
http://hostessbrands.info/
There is a Butternut delivery truck around, paint kind of faded, seems like it was always there.
I am gonna have a Donette now.
Twinkies don't kill people. People with twinkies kill people.
"Chinese company comes in restarts production...all new Dong Ding chocolate cake...and Kwintie cream filled cake..."
11/17/2012 08:41:00 AM
Horribly true -- and extremely funny comment.
The flag over there is still red, and there is still a huge portrait of Mao Tse Tung in Tienanmen Square...no joke.
They are having a Condo Bust to follow their Condo Boom too, and their new "middle class" is getting out of the country, afraid of repression and asset confiscation. (You saw this in Venezuela too, with Chavez.)
News story that Chinese are using their hard cash to buy themselves "high-tech worker" green cards, and coming here and buying 50-100 cheap foreclosed houses at a crack.
Meet the new boss...
There are increasing mass protests in China, crowds sacking local Party headquarters and pouring the expensive liquor out the windows for the cameras, literally dragging "officials" into the town square and making them stop plans to erase the village for a new pipeline. Inspiring!
It remains to be seen whether a widespread "Chinese Spring" would be met with concessions or gunfire. Given the state apparatus, I'd bet on machine guns right now.
Give the Cozzi "woe is me" a rest already. Geesh! Amazing how you guys always say to be mindful that a camera is always recording then he does something stupid on camera and now he is somehow a victim.
11/18/2012 08:59:00 AM
squeaked the rabbit.
What kind of skulduggery does Rambo have planned for us? He has a huge staff paid extremely well, look at dales former press secretary Jackie heard,had a house she rented to dope dealers,gets a 80% pension from her $190,000 salary,and Daley still has her working for him! Wonder how many will be ripping off what's left of the pension funds like dales program?
Someone goes into business to make money. They have an idea for a product, research and market that product, hire people who can be trained to make the product. That is the nature orf business. If you are working for someone and you dont like the pay and benefits you have choices. You can stay on the job and complaint or you can quit and find another job. If a company is smart they pay enough to keep their good employees and avoid the pitfalls of poor or untrained people and the expense of training new employees. Then the union comes in and they demand more and more. The company ceases to be competitive and they either go out of business or leave the country. Now, you can complain what the company pays its executives, but that is none of your business. This is not a socialist country where the managers make the same money as the workers. And, you wonder, why in a world economy that there are few jobs in the USA? Really?
11/18/2012 10:41:00 AM
Well the Hostess employees took your advice and quit. I'd say what the executives are making is the employee's business because they all have a stake in making said company profitable. If a company makes $20 million profit per year and the top executives are making a combined 19.5 million per year while the workers are making a combined total of .6 million per year, you can't really sit there and point the finger at the greedy employees because the company is losing money! When you're making 2 million dollars per year and asking your $40,000 per year employees to take pay and benefit cuts while you're giving yourself a raise, your company deserves to go bankrupt. A good business owner would make equal percentage pay cuts across the board starting at the top, not just cutting the salaries of the peons at the bottom. You lead by example.
Just another private equity takeover/selloff scam. Shysters.
TO: 1041am
Private businesses have a choice to hire and fire, employees have a choice to work for them or another co. BUT, you talk about communism. Without unions, we have the opposite. If no unions existed, then all jobs and minimum wage would be like china production. No choice for the worker. This 2$ and hour job or that one? No choice for the worker= all profit for the boss. Unions protect a process (that has some corruption, but so does every private and public sector of management so those balance out) and its workers. Unless you're under the assumption that all bosses are great and look out for their people... Working for this city sure taught me that every boss is a great one... On second thought, you're right. Instead of Christmas bonuses this year, I will be enrolling you in the jelly of the month club to show my appreciation."Its the gift that keeps giving the whole year Clark." I apologize for my ignorance...GFY
OT (slightly)
Things that make you want to puke just a bit in your mouth, but hey...we are now a totalitarian democracy:
https://webmail.chicagopolice.org/owa/redir.aspx?C=9ktDxRLE2ESOyZy5TJHaoQyhh96gmc9Ik_RLDb8rs_POfjm6XqK8ocHBgik1_yhhVCDuY60dUSI.&URL=http%3a%2f%2fnoisyroom.net%2fblog%2f2012%2f11%2f16%2fhere-comes-obamas-socialist-transformation-of-america-obama-begins-push-for-new-national-retirement-system-to-redistribute-the-wealth%2f
The comments by those saying a company should lead by example and the company employees should dictate what the execs earn are way out in left field and not based in reality. Employees have a right to bargain collectively according to federal law and in many states there are no closed shops. However, any company has a right to be mismanaged, has a right to underpay their employees and has a right to close the company. This has been going on for many years and will not change. Union membership is just about a thing of the past in private industry and unions in public employment are breaking the government. You can tell me to GFY but that is not going to change things and will not fix the financial burden of govt. Wait until you property tgaxes double to pay teachers and lets see what you think?? Those jobs at Hostess will never come back and those employees will never earn what they did at Hostess. The front runner to buy the Twinkie and HO HO names is Grupo, a mexican bakery.Times are always changing and if we do not adapt to a workd economy things will only get worse.
No one is pointing any fingers at " greedy" employees, only the reality of dloing business in and working in what is now a world wide economy. We must compete with workers around the world. Baking is non-skill position that is easily taught . You can only get in salary and benefits what the marker will bear. GrupoBakers in Mexico probably will buy the Twinkies and Ho Ho name and will bake the product in Mexico and ship to the US. Grupo also bakes many other products under private labels that you are not aware of and you think they are US products. So, go ahead and be angry at those who point out what should be obvious to you and the p;rivate sector unions, but sadly is not. And, in the near future this will also become obvious to the public sector unions, who represent the only employees who are aboe to get increases in pay and benefits. The well is running dry. Public sector employees in this state are empowered by a state law. Eliminate that law and you have no power.
heres a brilliant business plan: make numerous tasty treats like twinkles, hohos, ding dongs, wonder bread, butternut bread etc.....the lets deliver these products to stores where they can be sold to the consumer for a profit, a profit for the store owner, and the product maker. But when we deliver the product to the store for sales let's use one truck for every product instead of using one truck to deliver all the products and let's give the drivers a paid day off for their birthday, and let's not have them unload the trucks let's have sone one else unload the product that we deliver. so we can have 3-5 trucks operating on the same route instead of one truck for each route.......brilliant.......McCormick Place mentality
Most people don't "envy" the rich...
What pisses them off is when their pay, jobs, benefits, pensions and health care are negatively impacted so the executives at the company for which they work can give themselves a giant raise at the expense of their employees.
That's not class warfare...that's called standing up to greed.
When you get a chance, slide on over to your local library and look up the August 13, 2012 issue of Fortune magazine. The cover story is about Hostess.
There is PLENTY of blame to go around, read all about the shenanigans that take place without ever being noticed by most people.
America
Land of the fee.
Home of the slave.
I STILL miss Shaved.
Anonymous said...
No one is pointing any fingers at " greedy" employees, only the reality of doing business in and working in what is now a world wide economy. We must compete with workers around the world. Baking is non-skill position that is easily taught . You can only get in salary and benefits what the marker will bear. GrupoBakers in Mexico probably will buy the Twinkies and Ho Ho name and will bake the product in Mexico and ship to the US.
11/19/2012 10:16:00 AM
Grupo Bimbo, which owns the Sara Lee and Entenmann’s brands
We are living the book "Atlas Shrugged"...........
From a troll: The Mary Mitchell suing Hostess because the inside of the Twinkie is white and causing obesity in the black community is genious. It belongs on Leno.
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