Breaking - Vanecko Indictment
Still a long way from a conviction, but good news for the moment:
Eight years late, but some comfort to his mother.
Labels: corruption, crime, scandals
posted by SCC at 3:55 PM
Monday, December 03, 2012
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146 Comments:
Great news - just hope no coppers get jammed in the sure to happen lawsuit.
For sake of comparison....how justice is supposed to happen for a fatal punch. See link below.
http://www.startribune.com/local/179647611.html
Still think it's good news?
The big story here is the 100% cover up by King Daley's crew. Everyone that works for the city knows that you do what Daley wants. The cover up is as obvious as the sunrise. I'm sure some people were taken care of some way some how for it.
No detective would ever make a case against a Daley family member and no ASA would ever charge a Daley family member. All they had to do is make the case look like shit.
Cline, Malloy and company will be next as all Webb must do is search in CLEAR/CHRIS and he will see how they manipulated the report writing.
This is great news!! They should also charge every last one of the people involved in the cover up. This type of shit has gone on far too long. He kills a kid and goes on to live the life of a Prince. Maybe this is the start of more good news to come. Maybe Daley next. We can only hope.
Think that rotten, thieving $Ritchie Daley is seething?
I'd love to see that rotten prick indicted for what he's done to our pension fund. Why hasn't he been sued for intentional breach of fiduciary duty?
Instead of holding him and his ilk responsible Rahm wants to put it squarely on our shoulders and squeeze concessions out of us. Political hypocrisy.
The victims mother says she does not want the offender to go to jail. Sounds like the Daleys got to her.
As you well know, SCC, a deflated football can be indicted by a grand jury. Let's see how it all plays out, shall we? If it comes to trial, it will be a loser for Anita & co., but at least she can stare those news cameras down and state emphatically, 'not on my watch. We ran with it, took the evidence and sent the case to trial. The people have spoken.' Everyone walks away feeling good, with their heads held high because they 'did the right thing,' except for the dead kid's mother, of course.
Sweeping changes today? Kennedy moved? Graeber moved? More to come.
Nice shot of RJ on TV -- this is a hitter, and as sure of himself as anyone could be.
Until now.
Good deal.
Mayor Porky Da Pig gonna weigh in from some podium with a corporate logo repeated and repeated on the background paper? Dripping sweat? "Buh dee, buh da, buh doo, I,I,I."
Right.
Best wishes to the Koschman family; sorry for this eight years of hell, and hope that some resulution comes here, some peace for you.
Vanecko is no different than some of the thugs who are career criminals. Difference is clout and family connections. When he pulled a shotgun on someone at 17, he should have been arrested then. He got to breathe air and hang out in Hollywood for 8 years, like his cousin got to vanish as well. You punch someone while drunk, they die, it is jail time. Sorry. And the cops who covered it up, you need to be punished as well.
Cline, Malloy and company will be next as all Webb must do is search in CLEAR/CHRIS and he will see how they manipulated the report writing.
12/03/2012 04:10:00 PM
Fat Phil and Biff?? Say it ain't so!
Hopefully one ASA or one Dic will spill the beans on Daley and maybe we could get a criminal conspiracy charge on short shanks. U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald get an incomplete grade for his work here by stopping the indictments before he got the top of the food chain in the Daley Crime Family.
T.R.P.
The FOP better record what happened today with Rahm putting all the extra NATO money toward violence reduction stuff with kids and after school crap.
This would have been a perfect opportunity for the city to start fulfilling their pension liabilities. So in court/arbitrator the person will know that the city has plenty of money to just throw away toward these stupid programs instead of their actual liabilities,
just hope no coppers get jammed in the sure to happen lawsuit.
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If it's determined that they knuckled under to political pressure, and obstructed their own investigation because of that, why shouldn't they get jammed up?
There is no way that this investigation wasn't influenced by people with political juice, just as it would have been had the shoe been on the other foot.
There's no doubt that if Vanecko had been on the losing end of a punch and died, the full resources and weight of the CPD and states attorney would have come down, hard, on Kloschman.
This whole affair reeked of political influence from the very start, and if some careers get hung out to dry because of that, so be it.
changes. Look out 009, your getting a FANTASTIC commander.... Jarmusz is gone!!!
come on, this is Crook County. Our jury pool will be made up of those who voted for Daley. They wouldn't find apaper bag guilty, even if it's found with a pound of coke.
It's about damn time!
That's right: DALEY, JJ SR., STROGER, PRECWINKLE, QUINN, both MADIGANS...the list goes on and on.
Retired Ol' Sixgun Sarge
The truth has started to come out. Now lets see what a trial has to do with the matter.
Lets also see what happens when all the Department and ASA members get cross examined in open court.
We all know that this was covered up from start.
Now we need a CR for this cover up
be careful what you wish for.
this has the potential to put a dozen cops in jail.
Fuck all the detectives who botched this up and did sloppy investigative work at the request of bosses.hahaha now in court you have to give the bosses up or you will to be fucked all by your lonesome.you are all a bunch of liars and idiots.I never put a case on anyone or botched a case.but guess what....I collect a pension.
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Anonymous said... Great news - just hope no coppers get jammed in the sure to happen lawsuit.
12/03/2012 03:57:00 PM
This comment alone is entirely what's wrong with this city, county, and state. Anyone who helped change or cover up any facts on this report is an accessory to murder. What if it was your kid lying dead on the ground that night?
federal grand jury?......how BOUT IT?.....EVERYONE INVOLVED testifies (or takes the fifth?).....start taking folks to jail, and lots of folks.....
big day here... veneko and now command changes.
Wonder how Carol Marin will spin this..
The sad part is although this gives hope that people are fed up...we will all be wringing our hands when this punk gets off.
better yet.....get a US Attorney involved, with a couple of FBI squads also.....wires, cell phone records, reports (written, or not), conversations held and testified to (grand jury?)......fire it up baby!
Daley-friendly judge.
Bench trial.
Acquittal.
Bet on it.
009: The invicible Jarmusz is out, Joe Gorman is in.
Thanks to Sun Times for going extra mile. Wow!
How many current and retired people are gonna be getting subpoenaed for the cover up that went along with Vanecko walking away unscathed? More than a handful of assholes were actively complicit in making sure the kid gloves were applied to this whole mess. I'd love to see the likes of Cline and his whole crew of clout heavy assholes get whacked for this.
It's a shame that corruption is still so rampant in this more civilized day and age.
Hope everyone involved gets their karma for protecting this big pussy.
From the Trib article:
He faces 2 to 5 years in prison, or probation, if convicted of involuntary manslaughter.
What a joke. But, better than nothing.
--No Cop Here
Anonymous said...
Great news - just hope no coppers get jammed in the sure to happen lawsuit.
12/03/2012 03:57:00 PM
Unfortunately the only ones who will get jammed up are Dets and maybe some PO's. No bosses or ASA's will get in any trouble. Remember, we are the only ones who are held to any kind of standards. Not the States Attorneys Office, not any judge, not any politicians and for sure not any white shirts.
Now go out and do a good job.
Super news, the fat head jerk should do time. Just like a daley pick on people who they know won't or can;t fight back.We can only hope justice will be done for that kid.
Cline, Malloy and company will be next as all Webb must do is search in CLEAR/CHRIS and he will see how they manipulated the report writing.
12/03/2012 04:10:00 PM
I pray you are correct. David Koschman deserves justice. Buh-bye bloated pensions!
OT.
Command changes made today.
Anybody got them to post?
not surprising. He was taken care of and now it is coming to light. he should of been indicted a long time ago.
Forgot to ask:
WWMS?
What would Maggie Say??
post your guess...
OT:
Hey Super Dave:
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out of 009!
Mass Transit: I feel for you but apparently somebody has to suffer this fool.
Now all they have to do is move the trial out of crook county otherwise we all know how this is going to end. Somewhere daley has no power and influence. Maybe even somewhere they dispise that name. I hear south of Iraquois county is nice this time of year.
The big story here is the 100% cover up by King Daley's crew. Everyone that works for the city knows that you do what Daley wants. The cover up is as obvious as the sunrise. I'm sure some people were taken care of some way some how for it.
No detective would ever make a case against a Daley family member and no ASA would ever charge a Daley family member. All they had to do is make the case look like shit.
12/03/2012 04:03:00 PM
You are an ass. There was no reason for a cover up when the drunk witnesses gave conflicting stories, couldn't describe the offender, and later could not ID the supposed offender.
If there was a cover up, who profited? No one involved was ever promoted. No one suddenly started driving a Lexus, no one when on a European vacation or bought a ranch in Aspen. As they say: Show me the money. No one can because it just didn't happen.
There never is any reason to submarine a case that is crap from the get go.
Quite a few people are very nervous about what happens next. Vaneko will land on his feet in the end. Will the detectives be that lucky? Should they?
It was a tragic drunken accident, however that being said anyone else would have been charged with involuntary or reckless homicide. Bout time. Bets on the verdict?
Breaking news- big department changes today:
Commander Gorman sent to be the commander of 009
Commander Kennedy sent to be the commander of Gang Investigations and Intelligence
Stay tuned for more changes
Then go after Shortshanks for ORDERING the coverup. Twist a few arms and these lil bitches will tell ALL.
The three detectives originally assigned to the case all retired before their time and one is actually in California working in the entertainment industry along with the offender!
I hope none of them get caught up in this political BS but if you play you pay!
Where is the cover up? Nobody identified Vanecko in a line up ever! There was no cover up by the police the Cook County States Attorney's office may have some problems. The only mistake that was made is that Vanecko came in he should have been arrested, sat for 48 hours, then the case should have been presented to Felony Review. This is not now nor has it ever been a Homicide.
RE: 4:10 PM
CLEAR/CHRIS will reveal that Chasen was the individual who orchestrated the manipulation of the reports relating to this incident. Chasen will have to give up Cline and Malloy for overseeing the coverup!
I would like the media to investigate whether any of the detectives, sergeants, lieutenants, commanders over the case received a merit promotions following their cover up? I thought a couple were merit and at the time no one could explain how they got a merit promotion, now we are seeing how.
seems the pressure is on for Mr.Webb
could be the pressure came from two "insignificant" blogs?
he is going to have to show something for the almost close to a million for his so-called legal billing
the public won't let this slip off with oh well nothing here type b/s
someone somewhere is going to have to
take a "fall"hopefully it 's vanecko
but if the stories are true there might a be a few others as well
Big Phil-- and what thanks did he get? He got fired? HA HA HA
Anonymous said...
This is great news!! They should also charge every last one of the people involved in the cover up. This type of shit has gone on far too long. He kills a kid and goes on to live the life of a Prince. Maybe this is the start of more good news to come. Maybe Daley next. We can only hope.
12/03/2012 04:13:00 PM
Yup and ballarine will ok pay out so dickheadDaley won't have to testify.
Lori Lightfoot will be the next US attorney for northern district.
Vanecko will be found not guilty on the most serious charges and found guilty on some minor charge so the people will think at least he has to do 6 months which will really be 3 months probation.
so in the end the media will say justice was served and lori lightfoot will hang a copper or two when somebody asks hay what you doin lately in dat new job of yours lori !
OT: Good luck to Commander Staples... going from 017 to 012. You guys are getting one of the best leaders I have seen on CPD in 12 years.
A total waste of tax payers money !!! This is going no where !!! Webb & his law firm will be the only winner$.
Thank you Dan Webb.
Hmmmmmm...
Didn't the Son of The Stuttering Prick develop a sudden, raging and previously undiagnosed case of "duty, honor & country" during this time?
*Odor of Horse-Shit*
It is NOT in the DNA of any direct Daley male decendant to join the active military (or pursue any other "in harm's way" type stuff for that matter) and leave a six figure job of rubbing one out on other people's money.
BTW... Was there EVER any clarification as to what the hell his MOS was?
We don't recall galavanting from post to post in the Middle East & The Hindu-Kush trying to stay a step ahead of being sat down and talked to by the G as being qualified for a damned thing.
(Anybody remember that bit of cute business?)
That muthafuckah was under DIRECT duress, as in gotta figure out a way to get the fuck outta dodge and you have the inner Party rolodex full of people willing to "help" in any and every way possible.
*Thumb & index fingerrr... SSPIIINNNNNNN!*
Before he turned into a juice-head, 'Roid-Shanks (Paddy Daley) and the Vanecko cousin in question looked very much alike.
*Odor of even MORE Horse-Shit*
Taking the fall to protect the heir?
O.T.
Looks like they are shuffling the deck on the titanic again.
Kennedy from 001 to Gang Intelligence
Graeber from Mass Transit to 001
Gorman from Gang Intell to 009
Jarmusz from 009 to Mass transit
Staples from 17 to 12/13
Capt James Jones from 005 to 20.
No word on who is going to 20 yet.
Lucy Moy moved to XO of Patrol Division.
Rumor is O'grady from narcotics is out but probably just moved.
MSN Local obviously have their heads up their asses to give the Sun Times credit for this story "breaking" in 2011 when here on SCC there have been posts after posts for YEARS regarding this scandal being covered up by Daley and Anita Alvarez. MSN had no comments opened or I would have posted about MSN's agregious error giving all the credit to the Sun Times. A shame that a source as formidable and unforgiving and relentless as SCC, once again, doesn't get the credit you deserve, but the thieving media who troll here, and are pretty much do nothings in this city, do.:
R.J. Vanecko, the namesake nephew of former mayor Richard J. Daley, has been charged with one count of involuntary manslaughter in the 2004 death of David Koschman. The charge was announced Monday. Koschman died from a single punch thrown during a drunken argument in the early morning hours of April 25, 2004. The cold case had remained dormant until a new investigation was sparked by questions originally raised by the Chicago Sun-Times in January 2011. At the time of his death Koschman was 21 and Vanecko 29. An argument broke out after one group bumped into the other.
Come on everyone, remember how Peter Pan saved Tinker Bell? Clap your hands...keep clapping until the lights get bright again! That's it....keep clapping and everything will be alright! We'll save Chicago! It worked in New York didn't it?
Anonymous said...
For sake of comparison....how justice is supposed to happen for a fatal punch. See link below.
http://www.startribune.com/local/179647611.html
Still think it's good news?
12/03/2012 04:03:00 PM
DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS SINCE THE LAST LINE CONTRADICTS THE FIRST.
The St Louis case was a valid verdict. You had a jagoff harassing a woman then attacks the guy with her, so the tough guy who KILLED another person is rightfully going to jail.
Vanecko is no different, started shit and killed a kid to show off in front of his thug friends. Hopefully the verdict will be no different.
Its not self defense when you're the asshat starting the shit.
Fuck Vanecko, the cowardly pussy, who will see how tough he is in jail.
I can say it's all smoke and mirror, just a show to shut people up. In the end not guilty and he will live happily ever after . . . .
I commiserate with your problems with the political corruption in Shicago, Crook County, Ill-annoy.
I have a foolproof solution from late 18th Century Paris.
Set up guillotines next to the Picasso in your town square. Prepare with horse-drawn carts to parade the doomed scoundrels throughout your city en route to the guillotine.
For the first beheadings, include Richard Shortshanks, Madigan, Quinn, Durbin, Emanuel and the editors of your local newspapers. High noon scheduling with pay television coverage could contribute to a windfall of monies for depleted taxpayer coffers. Reveling spectators would be appropriately charged for attendance at the venue. Authenticated blood-soaked rags could be sold as souvenirs at the Picasso or on eBay or craigslist.
Place their severed heads on 20 foot pikes for public display until they disappear from raptors, maggots and the summer sun.
Then it's time for the second roundup to cull the herd.
Richard Vanecko is small fish worthy of a 20 year prison sentence. Are there still vacancies at Tamms?
Trust me. It works. Sweet dreams are made of this.
Can lil dickhead richard m be nex...?
We can afford a maggie daley park either
Feds take over cpd. Please
Guilty ass city. And we're the assholes? Fuck all of you fucks like they fucked our public trust. Sorry SCC. Burn in hell all of you. Sorry SCC readers under 10.
Anonymous said...
Great news - just hope no coppers get jammed in the sure to happen lawsuit.
12/03/2012 03:57:00 PM
If they're involved and 'intentionally' covered up anything , FUCK THEM!!
They're not 'one of us'.
It may not be Murder I but in should be VOLUNTARY manslaughter.
Down with the whole family of criminal bastards !
fuck you shortshanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When its all over, the only one's to be hurt will be the Police. You cant sue ASA....Locke Bowman, Flint Taylor, they dont give a shit about the kid's death, they just want to sue the city!!! Thats all this is.
Old Retired Guy
After the indictment the grand jury is now investigating the handling of the case by the pd and Asa. Sounds like there might be a few folks sweating their asses off right about now. So might not agree but a person was killed by some drunk douche bag and if you helped in any way to let him go free because of who he was regardless of who told you what that's your ass. Where are those bitches now that your ass is in the wind. Saying you were given an order to do this or that is not gonna fly as an excuse on this one. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Down with the whole family of criminal bastards !
fuck you shortshanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Somehow the police will get ALL the blame for this....not the daley administration or the states attorneys office who only charge people with felonies they want! This inconsistency is what gives great bearing to lawsuits such as the abbate case.
Send everyone involved in the cover up to prison. This is why Chicago is so fucked up ! Mayors think they are kings and can do whatever they want.
Hey shanks ! Are you clutching at your chest yet ????
Instead of a maggie park, build a dick daley prison & let him be inmate #1.
It's a horrible tragedy that this young man died something that should never of happened but understand no one could ID Vanecko as the person who punched the victim. Several lineups were done and he wasn't picked out by people who were there on the scene. Vanecko doesn't have to give a statement if he chooses not to. He won't confess so explain to me with no witnesses and no statements and no evidence how can he be convicted. Hopefully the majority of people who read the blog know that the Chicago Police DO NOT and CAN NOT charge people with felonies as the Cook County States Attorney's Felony Review has to approve charges. CPD can override some cases but 99.9% of over ride cases get dropped at pre-lim hearings. Enough of the bashing of the Detectives as I was there and the lead detective wanted him charged but was told by felony review " sorry you have no ID, find someone who saw the punch or get a statement". no ID no statement no charge 99.9% of the time and every officer reading this knows it.
OFF TOPIC: In Mt. Greenwood............ Can someone please explain to me why at 1110am there was a girl driving down the 3800 w. 1110th place in her PERSONAL vehicle (black Jeep) writing parking tickets....
---Its the ticket writers not the police. I saw a woman on a hand held radio one morning in her car stop by my recently purchesed vehicle looking at the front window and then the rear plate. I watched her from the yard as she talked into the radio and when she saw me exit my gate she drove off. See, I had purchased my car a few days earlier from carmax and was able to get my new plates on the spot. I sold them my old one and had to transfer my city sticker which I had thirty days to do. I would have explained this to her but she drove away, never got out of her car and never hung a ticket on the my car. Imagine my surprise when I got a ticket in the mail a freaking MONTH AND A HALF later written on that date for NO CITY STICKER. I sent in my paperwork and the ticket was tossed but that is one of their sneaky tactics. Also a guy on a bike rides around Mt. Greenwood writing tickets.
you have a funny idea of what is good news, scc. this spells trouble for the police. cant you see that?
Keating didn't want Graeber. Plain and simple. Graeber running around kissing that mans ass nd he still offed him.
Good to know that justice will hopefully be done even to the nephew of King Richard II. Just wrong that it took so long.
But this is Chicago!!!
Michael T. Sweig
This wan't a botched investigation. Once they see who got involved (bodyguards) and what the bosses told them to do. These detectives were only following instructions. Go after the rats, not the fall guys.
Anonymous said...
It's a horrible tragedy that this young man died something that should never of happened but understand no one could ID Vanecko as the person who punched the victim. Several lineups were done and he wasn't picked out by people who were there on the scene. Vanecko doesn't have to give a statement if he chooses not to. He won't confess so explain to me with no witnesses and no statements and no evidence how can he be convicted. Hopefully the majority of people who read the blog know that the Chicago Police DO NOT and CAN NOT charge people with felonies as the Cook County States Attorney's Felony Review has to approve charges. CPD can override some cases but 99.9% of over ride cases get dropped at pre-lim hearings. Enough of the bashing of the Detectives as I was there and the lead detective wanted him charged but was told by felony review " sorry you have no ID, find someone who saw the punch or get a statement". no ID no statement no charge 99.9% of the time and every officer reading this knows it.
12/03/2012 08:35:00 PM
Oh yeah sure like we're supposed to believe the Det.'s "wanted him charged." I've seen Det.'s avoid charging people a lot less important than this guy. It's very easy to make a line-up not work out. He's a fucking Daley! No boss would let him get charged. Once again, HE'S A DALEY FAMILY MEMBER! The Det.'s and ASA would never charge him. It sure sounds like the real pros has a solid case and know the obvious. COVER UP!
Anonymous said...
The big story here is the 100% cover up by King Daley's crew. Everyone that works for the city knows that you do what Daley wants. The cover up is as obvious as the sunrise. I'm sure some people were taken care of some way some how for it.
No detective would ever make a case against a Daley family member and no ASA would ever charge a Daley family member. All they had to do is make the case look like shit.
12/03/2012 04:03:00 PM
You are an ass. There was no reason for a cover up when the drunk witnesses gave conflicting stories, couldn't describe the offender, and later could not ID the supposed offender.
If there was a cover up, who profited? No one involved was ever promoted. No one suddenly started driving a Lexus, no one when on a European vacation or bought a ranch in Aspen. As they say: Show me the money. No one can because it just didn't happen.
There never is any reason to submarine a case that is crap from the get go.
12/03/2012 06:26:00 PM
You must not be on the job or if so not very long or you would know that not one boss would allow him to get charged even if was on video tape. The tape would be destroyed, statments changed, or like you said witnesses suddenly not being able to ID. No one got paid to cover it up, it's just done because it's a Daley. Come one man use your head. It's a Daley.
Capt James Jones from 005 to 20.
No word on who is going to 20 yet
sorry meant on word on 17 yet
Didn't this jerk off borrow money from our pension to invest in property at the Olympic park, or whatever they were going to call the old Michael Reese Hospital?
OT: Good luck to Commander Staples... going from 017 to 012. You guys are getting one of the best leaders I have seen on CPD in 12 years.
OMG, please stop with the shameless self promotion.
They took care of Chris Kennedy again!
Dog and pony show with the help of a willing, not so free press.
For those of you talking about the lineups one of the females who with Vanecko at the time of the incident admitted he threw the punch.
Look it up.
Said female is a member of one of the richer construction tycoon families in town. Public construction. Hint hint.
Initially she denied knowing the "puncher" but at some point within a week or so afterward her Irish Catholic conscious got to her. Some of us actually have them.
Now if anyone else had done that I suspect our glorious States Attorney would have charged them with "obstruction".
Didn't the detectives initially assigned this case go on vacation shortly afterward? Didn't one of the detectives make a note about Vanecko's mom being the sister of Shortshanks?
Did any of those detectives end up retiring from CPD and end up working for the States Attorneys office?
Look it up assholes.
Da Nile aint just a River in Egypt.
This stinks of a coverup from day one.
Oh, did I forget to mention former CPD exempt Hiram Grau?
After he went over to the ISP didn't he refuse to examine the Vanecko case?
Am I the only one hearing banjo music in the background?
Do you see the light?
Grau was the Dept Sup of Investigations at the time and Maria Maher was Chief of Dets.They all had a hand in the decision and Grau will point the finger at everyone but himself. Bank on it.Grau retired and went from one good job to the next. Maher is head of security for the judges at 26/Cal.How did that happen. Is Daley the answer?
If that would of been a police officer, he would only be done serving only half of his sentence. A miracle this corrupt state, county, and city finally got a Daley on criminal charges, but don't hold your breath on a conviction.
Also a guy on a bike rides around Mt. Greenwood writing tickets.
12/03/2012 08:44:00 PM
Riding on the sidewalk is an ANOV.I remember a goofy foot patrol guy(now retired)stopped a ticket writer riding on sidewalk.He gave him the option of ANOVs and bike inventoried or the ticket boy could let out all the air in his own tires and go away.The ticket guy pushed his flat bike to a bus stop.I'm pretty sure the officer had no ANOV book and probably had no idea how to inventory anything,but it was great to see this guy bullying the meter writer.
Commander Staples... going from 017 to 012. You guys are getting one of the best leaders I have seen on CPD in 12 years.
can anyone tell us about this new commander coming to 12 when the 2 districts merge?
Lori Lightfoot will be the next US attorney for northern district.
Vanecko will be found not guilty on the most serious charges and found guilty on some minor charge so the people will think at least he has to do 6 months which will really be 3 months probation.
so in the end the media will say justice was served and lori lightfoot will hang a copper or two when somebody asks hay what you doin lately in dat new job of yours lori !
If she actually gets the nod, it would be a travesty. She has far too many connections to Daley and he appointed her to head OPS. But of course this is Chicago, Obama is the President, and Durbin was involved in submitting the final four names for consideration. Go Figure.
Is a scandal the cause of changes?
Anonymous said...
Didn't this jerk off borrow money from our pension to invest in property at the Olympic park, or whatever they were going to call the old Michael Reese Hospital?
12/03/2012 09:54:00 PM
if anyone took the time to investigate the depth of these crooks they would start with MADIGAN/ Daley crew and look at how much public pension,college funds etc was "invested " with a small circle of insiders. Those funds are all in trouble now but the crooks are golden. When will someone really dig ? I hope this guy does time for this death but it won't happen.
Justice denied is justice delayed.
You must not be on the job or if so not very long or you would know that not one boss would allow him to get charged even if was on video tape. The tape would be destroyed, statments changed, or like you said witnesses suddenly not being able to ID. No one got paid to cover it up, it's just done because it's a Daley. Come one man use your head. It's a Daley.
12/03/2012 09:35:00 PM
Then you certainly are not a copper I ever worked with in my 30 years...15 in the D. Just not true. Not I nor any of the detectivs or supervisors I worked with or for would stand for a cover up. Your hate for the Daley family has clouded your judgement and has impaired your objectivity. I'm no fan either but no evidence means no case. We didn't have to cover up anything. (Did you get that? Yes, I was there...for the whole thing.)
There never is any reason to submarine a case that is crap from the get go.
12/03/2012 06:26:00 PM
I for one am so sick of your undercover PR work for the mayor and his Gambinos here on SCC and now from you another gag me post denying Daley and Anita's clean up crew?
Having personally been on the receiving end of a cover up by Chris Kennedy who "lost" a video, and who altered the evidence he did allow into court, your crap case theory is crapola. evidence and testimony get altered/changed/bought out and paid for at the drop of a hat in this city. just like you and your phony ad nauseum diatribe here on SCC. Just fucking go away beyotch.
Anonymous said...
They took care of Chris Kennedy again!
12/03/2012 09:55:00 PM
how so?
~just curious
You are an ass. There was no reason for a cover up when the drunk witnesses gave conflicting stories, couldn't describe the offender, and later could not ID the supposed offender.
If there was a cover up, who profited? No one involved was ever promoted. No one suddenly started driving a Lexus, no one when on a European vacation or bought a ranch in Aspen. As they say: Show me the money. No one can because it just didn't happen.
There never is any reason to submarine a case that is crap from the get go.
12/03/2012 06:26:00 PM
You have to be joking, right? The dicks wrote, "vi daley son" on the back of one of the reports and you dont think this had any bearing on the case? Yuore either ignorant, blind or a daley...
who was chief investigator at cook county states attorney office at the time , he was a boss in detective division when he retired?
very interesting , some pensions may go bye bye
Oh yeah sure like we're supposed to believe the Det.'s "wanted him charged." I've seen Det.'s avoid charging people a lot less important than this guy. It's very easy to make a line-up not work out. He's a fucking Daley! No boss would let him get charged. Once again, HE'S A DALEY FAMILY MEMBER! The Det.'s and ASA would never charge him. It sure sounds like the real pros has a solid case and know the obvious. COVER UP!
12/03/2012 09:26:00 PM
I sure hope you are not a copper because you are a true idiot.
Sure seems to me that most of the people commenting here would have no problem if the Detectives would have trumped up charges against Vanecko.
The Box Chevy Phantom said...
Hmmmmmm...
Didn't the Son of The Stuttering Prick develop a sudden, raging and previously undiagnosed case of "duty, honor & country" during this time?
*Odor of Horse-Shit*
It is NOT in the DNA of any direct Daley male decendant to join the active military (or pursue any other "in harm's way" type stuff for that matter) and leave a six figure job of rubbing one out on other people's money.
BTW... Was there EVER any clarification as to what the hell his MOS was?
We don't recall galavanting from post to post in the Middle East & The Hindu-Kush trying to stay a step ahead of being sat down and talked to by the G as being qualified for a damned thing.
(Anybody remember that bit of cute business?)
That muthafuckah was under DIRECT duress, as in gotta figure out a way to get the fuck outta dodge and you have the inner Party rolodex full of people willing to "help" in any and every way possible.
*Thumb & index fingerrr... SSPIIINNNNNNN!*
Before he turned into a juice-head, 'Roid-Shanks (Paddy Daley) and the Vanecko cousin in question looked very much alike.
*Odor of even MORE Horse-Shit*
Taking the fall to protect the heir?
12/03/2012 07:35:00 PM
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Box Chevy Phantom, the lad was assigned to the 101st Airborne. Well, OK, he never saw action of any danger, unless you count paper cuts he might have gotten while sorting mail for the division... in Kuwait.
This wan't a botched investigation. Once they see who got involved (bodyguards) and what the bosses told them to do. These detectives were only following instructions. Go after the rats, not the fall guys.
12/03/2012 09:19:00 PM
Only following orders aint no excuse.Whatever happened to personal integrity. You may get transferred or never promoted but you can sleep soundly and get your pension.
I said a long time ago that the only people going down for this are the detectives who handled the case.
I hope I'm wrong.
I hope they crumble. Fuck the daleys!
John Kass' take on the indictment --
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-kass-koschman-vanecko-20121203,0,1817879.column
I heard the fed's have something coming for the money laundering after school program and a few of the power brokers that got fat contracts.
Also there are asa's and unprotected cops that are going to get subpenas on this. God damn I hope this is the one that gets that fat little stuttering prick and his bike shorts into a court room.
He does look like a ham sandwich.
Anonymous said...
For sake of comparison....how justice is supposed to happen for a fatal punch. See link below.
http://www.startribune.com/local/179647611.html
Still think it's good news?
12/03/2012 04:03:00 PM
YUP.
Kennedy deserves to be taken care of!!! He's a prince!
FUCK. Keating!!!!!!!! What a goof
Yep Kennedy taken care of again
Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC: In Mt. Greenwood............ Can someone please explain to me why at 1110am there was a girl driving down the 3800 w. 1110th place in her PERSONAL vehicle (black Jeep) writing parking tickets....
---Its the ticket writers not the police.---------
Mouth breathers wear vests in yellow that say Revenue or Finance. Ser Co wears vests that say either Serco or Parking Enforcement.
Plain clothes in a non-M plate equals City Clerk investigators.
Please give more info on the day this happened...1110 am doesn't mean much by itself. Was it a week day or a Saturday or a Sunday?
Most of the Airmail tickets come from serco these days though. While revenue is annoying, they at least put the damn ticket on the vehicle before they vanish. And remember...when the 1st of the month is a Saturday or Sunday...the contractors are usually out in force since revenue isn't working and PO's have better things to do.
"Cline, Malloy and company will be next as all Webb must do is search in CLEAR/CHRIS and he will see how they manipulated the report writing."
If the case was manipulated by Cline, Malloy and the whiteshirts in general, it was done is such a way as that their fingerprints are no where to be found.
A sergeant or Lt. makes a "suggestion" as to what to put in the report. And as D, you know that you are very small fish swimming upstream against a very power current.
By criticizing the police investigation, they are laying the defense strategy: that the investigation is not good enough to convict.
..and why is Flint Taylor involved?
Who's taking 017?
Anonymous said...
Forgot to ask:
WWMS?
What would Maggie Say??
post your guess...
12/03/2012 06:16:00 PM
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"Richard ! I thought you said you took care of this ????" You are such an asshole ! nobody respects or fears you anymore"
Waste of time and money. While its shocking a Daley even got indicted, we all know a Daley will never get convicted.
Just a dog and pony show.
I feel sorry for whomever goes to 017....island of the misfit toys....3rd watch lt. afraid to make waves and do what is right with the problem children...watch out for the red haired runt who is going to 2nd watch...he likes to get #s on everyone...a slow district means more drama
Fill should rat out Richey since Richey forced Fill to retire in shame.
Where is the cover up? Nobody identified Vanecko in a line up ever! There was no cover up by the police the Cook County States Attorney's office may have some problems. The only mistake that was made is that Vanecko came in he should have been arrested, sat for 48 hours, then the case should have been presented to Felony Review. This is not now nor has it ever been a Homicide.
Richie, you drunk ignorant prick, get off the blog! You've got a dead guy, killed by another person, you sure as shit have a homicide; you may or may not have a murder. Lots of homicides are justifiable, some are even laudable.
Watch and see if we don't see a speedy trial while Obama is still around for a pardon.
I will respond for any future jury selection notices. Hopefully, I get on that trial...
Great news - just hope no coppers get jammed in the sure to happen lawsuit.
Are you kidding? They will probably get more time than Vanecko.
No detective would ever make a case against a Daley family member and no ASA would ever charge a Daley family member. All they had to do is make the case look like shit.
Ah, they tried that back in '04. Probably would have worked if not for the mom's continued effort to find justice for her son. What I find amazing was the Sun-times article that resurrected this political time bomb. I would have thought Daley would have killed that before it hit the presses.
There never is any reason to submarine a case that is crap from the get go.
Hmmm.....someone sounds nervous. You weren't lead on the investigation, huh?
Who really gives a shit other than the family of the victim? Let it go. Daley isn't the mayor anymore. And although I never thought I'd say it, I'd take him back in a second over the piece of shit we have now.
To 12/03/12 @ 451pm.
Get your head outta your ass. What the fuck does fop have to do with funding the pension fund? And if you think 50 mil would make a dent in the deficit, you are really in over your head on the subject of pensions. So, although not polite, I'll say it anyway. STFU!
We (CPD members on this site) are siding with the Northwestern U McArthur Justice Center and against your own. Koschman was a little drunken asshole who ran into Vanecko a big drunken asshole. At least 5 times a year in this city (more?) dicks handle cases similar where drunk vs drunk in a fight result in a death. This was a one punch fight and the little guy was knocked down by the big guy. The little guy had a blood alcohol content around 20%. He broke ay from his friend's grasp and charged Vanecko. One punch, fight over.
We are hanging our own here. After Area 3 did a mediocre at best investigation two outstanding detectives from Area 5 (men who are above reproach) re investigated the case and same to the same conclusion. This is not the type of case that is ever prosecuted in Cook County.
We as police officers should be able to cut through the media hype. I HATE Daley and all the bullshit he has wrought upon us but don't be blinded by your hate. the media drove this case. We are made out to be evil here not Vanecko.
Quit siding with he media against your own.
Where is the cover up? Nobody identified Vanecko in a line up ever! There was no cover up by the police the Cook County States Attorney's office may have some problems. The only mistake that was made is that Vanecko came in he should have been arrested, sat for 48 hours, then the case should have been presented to Felony Review. This is not now nor has it ever been a Homicide.
Richie, you drunk ignorant prick, get off the blog! You've got a dead guy, killed by another person, you sure as shit have a homicide; you may or may not have a murder. Lots of homicides are justifiable, some are even laudable.
12/04/2012 02:06:00 AM
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and then Judge Toomin says if there's a dead body there should be someone charged. Nonsense. I remember when I first came on as a ride-along first. There was a dead body in the street. Before he even cooled the 'offender' was released. Justifiable, or at the very least charging the guy was impossible. Just because the guys dead means nothing. No offense to the Kochmans.
Anonymous said...
Commander Staples... going from 017 to 012. You guys are getting one of the best leaders I have seen on CPD in 12 years.
can anyone tell us about this new commander coming to 12 when the 2 districts merge?
12/03/2012 10:09:00 PM
Staples worked in the old Area 4 detective division under Steve Peterson. They bumped heads constantly because Staples always wanted to do the right thing by the guys as opposed to Peterson who was always a Department man. In any case, Peterson grew to respect Staples and the rest is history. She was in a D unit as a lieutenant and then made DC of 017. She certainly knows her shit, is fair to the people she works with and doesn't take any of this too seriously. The 012 district won the lottery getting Staples.
Anonymous said...
Grau was the Dept Sup of Investigations at the time and Maria Maher was Chief of Dets.They all had a hand in the decision and Grau will point the finger at everyone but himself. Bank on it.Grau retired and went from one good job to the next. Maher is head of security for the judges at 26/Cal.How did that happen. Is Daley the answer?
12/03/2012 10:06:00 PM
Maher was very close with Supt. Phil Cline. Fat Phil was appointed by Daley. Does anyone really think that there wasn't a cover up? IT WAS THE MAYOR'S FAMILY MEMBER IN CORRUPT CHICAGO! No Brainer!
Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC: In Mt. Greenwood............ Can someone please explain to me why at 1110am there was a girl driving down the 3800 w. 1110th place in her PERSONAL vehicle (black Jeep) writing parking tickets....
---Its the ticket writers not the police. I saw a woman on a hand held radio one morning in her car stop by my recently purchesed vehicle looking at the front window and then the rear plate. I watched her from the yard as she talked into the radio and when she saw me exit my gate she drove off. See, I had purchased my car a few days earlier from carmax and was able to get my new plates on the spot. I sold them my old one and had to transfer my city sticker which I had thirty days to do. I would have explained this to her but she drove away, never got out of her car and never hung a ticket on the my car. Imagine my surprise when I got a ticket in the mail a freaking MONTH AND A HALF later written on that date for NO CITY STICKER. I sent in my paperwork and the ticket was tossed but that is one of their sneaky tactics. Also a guy on a bike rides around Mt. Greenwood writing tickets.
12/03/2012 08:44:00 PM
They never write in Englewood.
Then you certainly are not a copper I ever worked with in my 30 years...15 in the D. Just not true. Not I nor any of the detectivs or supervisors I worked with or for would stand for a cover up. Your hate for the Daley family has clouded your judgement and has impaired your objectivity. I'm no fan either but no evidence means no case. We didn't have to cover up anything. (Did you get that? Yes, I was there...for the whole thing.)
12/03/2012 10:34:00 PM
You are delusional.
And why isn't Former Mayor Daley being indicted Federally? What are these Feds doing? It must be nice to have nights and weekends off. Plus all holidays off. What a waste of tax payers dollars.
"An argument broke out after one group bumped into the other."
12/03/2012 07:49:00 PM
So that was it, huh?
I look at the Vanecko pic, the hair sort of burned off at age 29, the fat nasty face, the bulk, and something I've seen in my travels says "steroids." Gives 'em an explosive temper to go with the added mass.
You see them around health food stores, dragging out huge five-gallon cans of Ultimate Blast Supplement and visibly hoping that someone might be having a quiet conversation out in the parking lot so they can yell "SHUT UP!" at complete strangers and then make a great show of checking their car for a scratch, casting accusing looks.
It's a type. Then you fill it with beer on top of all that. Not good.
Is that the same Dave Jarmusz from the 9th that is in movies?The fugitive?He nis ok in my book.A good boss but a lousy actor.LOL
Anonymous said...
There never is any reason to submarine a case that is crap from the get go.
12/03/2012 06:26:00 PM
I for one am so sick of your undercover PR work for the mayor and his Gambinos here on SCC and now from you another gag me post denying Daley and Anita's clean up crew?
Having personally been on the receiving end of a cover up by Chris Kennedy who "lost" a video, and who altered the evidence he did allow into court, your crap case theory is crapola. evidence and testimony get altered/changed/bought out and paid for at the drop of a hat in this city. just like you and your phony ad nauseum diatribe here on SCC. Just fucking go away beyotch.
12/03/2012 10:36:00 PM
Hey putz, I didn't write this, but I can tell you there was no conspiracy here, just incompetence on the part of the ASA's office. No one in the D unit (including myself) is willing to risk their job or pension on a coverup. You are as gullible as the OJ jury that believed that the police framed OJ. Get real! Yes, bosses do occasionally try to cover up stuff if they think they can get away with it, but not when so many people are involved. In this case everyone was afraid to do so because it was a high profile media worthy case. You know people don't have the balls, especially most bosses these days, to go out on a limb and invite lawsuits or investigations. Why the hell would they do so at the end of their careers and risk it all?
The only (other) thing that bothers me about this case is that Koschmans mom stated openly during a press conference that she, ...'did NOT want to see Vanecko go to jail' she only wanted to clear her son's name.
Mother, Vanecko should not be forgiven for his actions during and after this case.
He should held accountable for his actions here on earth and thereafter.
"The only (other) thing that bothers me about this case is that Koschmans mom stated openly during a press conference that she, ...'did NOT want to see Vanecko go to jail' she only wanted to clear her son's name."
12/05/2012 11:04:00 AM
Yeah, I heard this but cannot blame her. It's OK. She is a normal person with kindly impulses; it is the job to protect such people from the genuinely no-good and black-hearted. It's not like the Daley Crime Family ever spent two cents worth of time worrying about her or her son.
Hey putz, I didn't write this, but I can tell you there was no conspiracy here, just incompetence on the part of the ASA's office. No one in the D unit (including myself) is willing to risk their job or pension on a coverup. You are as gullible as the OJ jury that believed that the police framed OJ. Get real! Yes, bosses do occasionally try to cover up stuff if they think they can get away with it, but not when so many people are involved. In this case everyone was afraid to do so because it was a high profile media worthy case. You know people don't have the balls, especially most bosses these days, to go out on a limb and invite lawsuits or investigations. Why the hell would they do so at the end of their careers and risk it all?
12/04/2012 10:08:00 PM
Well, this certainly sounds good and might be true. But, lets wait for the special grand jury report on the conduct of the police investigtions before we make any judgements. If the detectives or their supervisors covered up then they should be indicted. Let the chips fall.
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