Two Deaths = 60 Day Suspensions
- Two Cook County prosecutors have been suspended for failing to file charges against a man who had threatened to kill his family -- three months before he set them on fire, killing himself, his wife and one of his young children.
The prosecutors had declined to file felony charges against Nathaniel Beller, 29, in September after he was accused of filling a bathtub with gasoline and threatening to kill his family, according to a Cicero police report.
Cicero police officers said they forced their way into the apartment after negotiating with Beller to release his two children. At one point, Beller lit a cigarette while in the apartment, according to the police report.
An assistant state’s attorney interviewed Beller at the hospital and later informed police that no charges would be filed, according to a Cicero police report. Another prosecutor, according to the report, cited a “lack of evidence” and the lack of cooperation from Beller's wife Taniya as reasons for not approving felony charges.
"Lack of evidence?" A tub full of gasoline, a kid soaked in gasoline, acts of furtherance with a lit cigarette. Move along, nothing to see here. At least, not until 90 days later when three people are dead and another burned almost beyond recovery.
Since there won't be any prosecution, we doubt anyone from Anita's office had to actually see pictures of the aftermath or listen to the screams of a child. You know, the way the responding fire and police personnel did.
Sleep well counselors. Hopefully, someone acts to disbar these morons.
Since there won't be any prosecution, we doubt anyone from Anita's office had to actually see pictures of the aftermath or listen to the screams of a child. You know, the way the responding fire and police personnel did.
Sleep well counselors. Hopefully, someone acts to disbar these morons.
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
127 Comments:
Well SCC, at least it's a start at some sort of accountability of Anita's mental midgets.
Up to now, I've never even heard of any
kind of sanctions like this against any
state's attorneys, have you?
Unfortunarely you cant file ARDC complaints on states attorneys, they are exempt. Only body that can look into ASA misconduct is AG's office. Good luck on little Lisa doing anything.
A.S.A.'s can't approve felony retail theft without running it past one of the three Felony Review Trial Supervisors. These two are just lambs for the slaughter. Which sup rejected the charges? Canellis, Wood or Byrne? One of them is the culprit. Of course two of them have been promoted since the bathtub incident, so what does that tell you?
Off topic, but important to follow:
A law clerk for IPRA's Rosenzweig was charged today with 3 FELONY counts of "Threatening A Public Official" after he threatened to "go postal and kill" Rosenzweig and coworkers and then himself.
Oh yeah...prior to being hired to help in the grand scheme of fucking over coppers, this stud has been arrested for both domestic battery and VOOP.
While not an IPRA Investigator himself, keep in mind that this asshole represents the caliber of employees hired to investigate you when some ghetto Hoodrat says you motherfucked her over towing her Baby Daddy's car.
Let's see if whatever clout helped him land that job helps keep him out of the media spotlight (and jail) now.
CB #18576813, here in our glorious 002 District lockup, for all interested parties.
OT --
Two in custody after man killed outside Chicago State University
12:17 a.m. CST, January 17, 2013
"A 20-year-old man was shot and killed outside a Chicago Public Schools high school basketball game at Chicago State University Wednesday night after a melee broke out in a handshake line after the game.
"The man was taken in serious condition to Advocate Christ Medical Center, according to the Chicago Fire Department.
"The shooting happened about 9:20 p.m. outside the campus gymnasium near 95th Street and King Drive, said police News Affairs Officer Daniel O’Brien. He was pronounced dead [sic]at Christ hospital Wednesday night." (The shooting victim died, not the police news affairs officer.}
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-person-shot-outside-chicago-state-university-20130116,0,2059838.story
SSDD.
All of you youngsters that have never had a job before the cpd need to give it a rest on sgt cm. Have some pride and professionalism in yourseld, don't come into work looking like a slob, be at your job when you're suppose to be, and don't stay down more than the norm on a non existent noise disturbance. Go out into the real world and see how your nonsense would play out. Kb
From farther down the web log --
"Massive backlash against Obama. Mississippi now joining Missouri and Wyoming in stating will not enforce federal laws. Sheriff of Linn County, Oregon on TV saying the same, will not enforce unconstitutional laws."
If it were possible for CCSAO and Anita Alvarez to lay the blame for this sad and sorry fiasco on The Police, you can rest assured there would be a media drumbeat for "Police being held accountable, " which translates to USDOJ investigation, federal prosecution, conviction and jail time.
Fucking seriously?
A 60 day "timeout" for a failure to faithfully and fully discharge their duties as officers of the court?
"Well... Momma Wouldn't sign..."
GTFOH!
There is no way in this world or the next one that a Policeman or Policemen would have been allowed the air or opportunity to hide behind momma refusing to sign. Given the totality of the circumstances!
Mr./Ms. Federal Prosecutor: "Officer, knowing that those children were in mortal danger; there was more you could've done in spite of the mother refusing to sign a complaint against the deceased offender, correct?"
*Poor Slob Copper having a daytime nightmare of twisting in the wind by his neck over the smoldering ashes of his career and reputation while the media leads the cheers and the politicians "tsk-tsk" in mock outrage."
But it's ok somehow, for CCSAO to run away and hide?
CCSAO has very loudly and publicly hung Policemen for less.
Not just a GOD-AWFUL TRAGEDY...
An EPIC, EYE-WATERING FUCK-UP!
USDOJ investigation and prosecution with all due prejudice please!
Hopefully we'll see some people from DCFS standing on the same scaffold.
Heh...
It'll be good to see some others facing the same peril The Policeman are exposed to.
You know... "Accountability" and all that jazz.
Ok, this is a first.
Hey Anita, what about the rest of the ones that Felony Review fucked up on?
The prosecutors want the perfect case. However, in Chicago there are few perfect cases. The prosecutors office want the "win". Sometimes there are going to be losses. But at least there were enough to keep the @##holes behind bars for little. Resulting in the saving of others lives. Especially when you have a one on one case which often times the prosecutors do not want to approve.
Our felony review process has become such a joke.
That's unfair to the ASAs. They were just doing what Anita wants, and now she's throwing them under the bus.
Why would you disbar them, aren't you supposed to promote incompetence?
so...what does 1 vanecko homicide cover-up = for broom hilda???
What about wrongful death lawsuits??
According to Ilinois State Law, Probable Cause should be the necessary link to arrest an offender and bring that party to the next stage of the criminal justice system but according to the Law of the States Attorney Office and Anita Alverez the case has to be a slam dunk conviction on paper before felong charges are approved for prosecution. Their should be an open investigation by an outside authority into cases that have been rejected by the ASA Office for lack of evidence, continuing investigation, polograph required, the ASA gives so many stupid reasons for rejection of charges. Most of the time they work against you..
As SCC states, no probably cause or lack of evidence with gasoline on a child in a bathtub, but also IDCFS needs some accountability as well, were the children removed and taken into Protective Custody for the purpose of Interview by ASA in safe environment, the children examined at the hospital.
Retired Detective
What about the judges that let the criminals get away all the time?
Cook County States Attorney's Office is a waste of tax dollars. Useless and incompetent
ridiculous, they should be indicted.
Here's my intake. IPRA sucks and over reaches to make a case towards officers F-them and hope they chocke on their spit. To be a private investigator in the state of IL it take 2 1/2 days of training, so that's what you are dealing with. They are scummy, always embelishing things, pressure unnecessarily to make it stick against the officer, even when the officer was right. F-them. I utterly hate them. This guy should of never been hired, he might be related to the female IPRA lady after her son got arrested. If my son would acted disrespectfully, I would not need a cop to whip his ass...I would bend them over infront the officer and spank the shit out of them. That was her issue, she sucked as a mother, her kid turned bad and she tries to protect him with her J O B. If you ask me, since she used her J O B, she should be fired too. F- IAD/IPRA...they are against the officers.
Off topic, but important to follow:
A law clerk for IPRA's Rosenzweig was charged today with 3 FELONY counts of "Threatening A Public Official" after he threatened to "go postal and kill" Rosenzweig and coworkers and then himself.
Oh yeah...prior to being hired to help in the grand scheme of fucking over coppers, this stud has been arrested for both domestic battery and VOOP.
While not an IPRA Investigator himself, keep in mind that this asshole represents the caliber of employees hired to investigate you when some ghetto Hoodrat says you motherfucked her over towing her Baby Daddy's car.
Let's see if whatever clout helped him land that job helps keep him out of the media spotlight (and jail) now.
CB #18576813, here in our glorious 002 District lockup, for all interested parties.
1/17/2013 01:08:00 AM
Kind of funny that when dude spot on the secret service agent who was outside case de Obama felony charges were approved with no problem.
I agree with an earlier poster. Those two ASAs are fall guys for their superiors. To any ASAs ready this, welcome to our world. They will leave you to hang out to dry for political expediency. My suggestion for anybody in Felony review, is approve everything and let the branch courts deal with it. It is definately the path of least resistance.
The evidence mounts against Anita for not charging David Protess at the Innocence Project at Northwestern, though she has him on many charges.
These two are just scapegoats for Anita, any fool that has called review can tell you that.
Cook county Code of Silence?
60 day suspension?! Is that all?! How about termination & disbarment!!! Talk about getting away with "murder"!!! Really?!
The witnesses may really have be uncooperative. Remember "no victim no crime."
And to think how different the outcome might have been if Beller was in a different mood the day he walked into 011s desk with a loaded rifle. Could have been a bloodbath. But fuck officer safety in the workplace, right? Gotta be the warm and fuzzy police so the natives' feelings don't get hurt. Fuck this job.
" Code of Silence ", eh Anita?
Word out of the Asa's office is that these two are sacrificial lambs. They ran this case up the chain of command and they were ordered per their supervisors to deny charges.
WHY DON'T THEY RELEASE THE NAMES OF THE A.S.A.'S, like do when a PO does something.... sounds like A CODE OF SILENCE in Anita's office
Cook county Asa's are to avoid approving chargers on brown skinned people according to cook county board president. She wants the population of the jail to have less brown skinned people cause its racist that it has so many now. She bowed to correct this. Guess we see how. Google it if you want to see for yourself.
This may be off-topic, but I'm glad I came across the SSC blog. Now, I'm finally able to see things through your eyes (Chicago' Finest), and not just the "news" that the local media & shitrags decide to spew out! Btw, there's an article on 'Police Corruption' in today's Sun Times, and I'll be looking forward to read your thoughts on that.
Anyway, keep up the good work & stay safe.
DJ.
I'm sure many will run to their defense and say that they're doing the best they can.
Well, Crook county is a national disgrace. The staff at the State's Attorney office is a disgusting political sham providing no justice to the citizens of this city and county.
They sleep well at night because they don't care one bit. They never have and never will. Now the next time one of these scum suckers tells you they want your guns because it's for the children, remember this. They don't mind burning children to death. That's what socialist democrats are, and you better never forget it.
Why are you ripping on the assistants SCC? This is from the top. SVU dics know the State won't even review a domestic felony without the cooperation of the victim. Tha is not an assistant's policy-it's Anita's.
Keep in mind, these ASA's have clouted in political county jobs with all the county benefits and no accountability to their employers, the taxpayers. How many of them work an eight hour day? Always got to leave work early to pick upo the kids.
Even if he was charged, he would have been released sooner then later from some liberal judge or jury on the basis that the " police planted the gasoline ". He then would have got out and been more determined then ever to kill those victims- you Monday morning quarterbacks forget where we live - Now if this were Texas I'd agree -fucker would be caged until he dead.
2:49
Your exactly right. Don't think are CPD bosses would (and do) the same damn thing. Many will make a horse shit decision and immediately throw you under the bus when the decision goes bad.
anita's army
A Secret Service agent is recently spit on near Obama's house and the offender is charged with felony battery, and held on $10,000 bond. If the victim was CPD, the mutt would have been I-bonded on a misdemeanor. Thank you Anita and your merry band of ASA's.
Sounds like a typical refusal from the States Attorney's Office for the past twenty years. If the public only knew the extreme cases that charges were downgraded or refused they would lynch the former Felony Review Supervisors.
Don't tell Democrats about this case, they will want to ban gasoline.
Is there a way Anita can blame the Chicago Police Dept.? If she could, you damn well know she would.
Keep voting Democrat people.
These two assholes should be locked up.
Simply lazy Crook Cty employees.
MS
I dont see the states attorney names any where or there piks!
Funny how it is all hush hush...
I would like to know who im dealing with on a shooting or death too.
But a copper get pinched for stealing vitamins and it all over the new with the full name in print.
Oh well i try and avoid dealing with ASA like the plague.
It was wood...now they promoted the tiny thing.
Executive order #24:
Will ban the manufacture, possession or sale of Gasoline or idiot ASA 'S AND JUDGES, whichever comes first.
If the public ever became aware of the cases that Anita has rejected or made "continuing investigations" she would be selling tacos in front of 26th St. A job certainly more suited to her talents and the one sher currently has.
Blaming the ASA for those deaths is like blaming a P.O. For the homicide rate in 2012. It's the political policy of felony review. Maybe Anita should take 60 days. But no politicians never make mistakes.
ot:
for you SCC- crystal clear video from this morning Chicagoist online, which comes into my Facebook newsfeed- the entire 2010 strangulation death of a shoplifter by the CVS manager in alley (behind store I'm guessing?)- clear view from camera above. death previously ruled accidental by CPD until this footage surfaced. I've never seen anything like this, not for the faint of heart or stomach...
http://chicagoist.com/2013/01/17/video_surfaces_of_2010_incident_whe.php
Old Retired Guy Here, Again........
I have said it before, and I will say it again. The Cook County States Attorney's Office Needs To Employ Full Time,Career Prosecutors. They must be professionally trained. Be promoted and paid on a tier level. It should be a Career Profession. It should not be a clout, political, job, that is underpaid, poor training, and no future.
I love that SCC is pushing accountability. I'll remember it when the press says the police didn't do something, therefore it's the police's fault someone was killed.
There was no evidence against mope because the mother wouldn't make the kids available to prosecutors! The prosecutors would have a hard time convincing a judge to COMPEL minor children to testify against their father. Without the children's statements how can you PROVE aggravated battery. This is the reason why so many child abusers go unpunished, because families back the abuser.
The children are dead BECAUSE their mother liked the animal more than she liked them. That is the bottom line. No one else is at fault.
This bullshit is the same crap the press throws at the police. These people's lives are miserable and horrible because they are miserable and horrible people. Only they can stop it. Any belief otherwise is just your liberal fantasy of utopia. I would hope a police blog would be less likely to join a liberal witch hunt, but I guess I was wrong.
You can throw a lit cigarette in a tub of gasoline all day and it won't ignite.
Don't forget that Beller is the same guy who came into 011 waving a shotgun (automatic?) at the midnight desk crew and had to be tackled about 6 months prior to these assaults on his family. What charges were approved then?
The Box Chevy Phantom said...
"If it were possible for CCSAO and Anita Alvarez to lay the blame for this sad and sorry fiasco on The Police, you can rest assured there would be a media drumbeat for "Police being held accountable, " which translates to USDOJ investigation, federal prosecution, conviction and jail time."
1/17/2013 01:58:00 AM
These are the "zero tolerance" people on "domestic violence."
Bathtub full of gasoline, kid dripping gas, police must break in, crazed repeat offender w/jailhouse tats on face is lighting cigarettes = walks away and does it again.
Why would anyone resign their office over three dead and one might as well be?
Enjoy time off, kids. Can always get smasho drunk, go to sex shop, bite employees, crawl around cursing and growling like animal.
"The majesty of the law."
"Why would you disbar them, aren't you supposed to promote incompetence?"
1/17/2013 03:37:00 AM
Yeah, really.
Sixty days suspension, that's it?
If blame could have been put squarely on the shoulders of the police officers who responded, what is the likelihood the incident would have result in a lawsuit and firing of those involved?
Yea, that's what I thought.
Accountability? Please.
The only professionals who are held to any amount of accountability are the men and women of the Chicago Police Department.
This happenes all the time so why now is the media printing this. To bad the blog does not have a section where all the courts failurs are printed!
Listen, the person should have been charged in the first incident. But do not blame the trial sup. Their hands are tied and are not allowed to make a call on their own. Everything has to go through the top three on the 14th floor. They have the same micro-managers we do. These two had to fall on the sword for their office. You know it and I know it.
Also, not every ASA is great, but there are plenty who are good to us. I also see a bunch of us act like idiots at court when they ask us to do something. Just remember, there are a lot of tools in this department also.
Anita has done more then the clouted ones Devine etc. People just have so much hate. Never said anything when the others were in control. Reason being she is a woman and a Latina. So go F... off why dont u. But if it was a good o'l boy nothing would be done just like your Mayor.
Asa Jen was always fair when a asa when she got promoted she became very difficult to deal with I am confident it was the people above her who made it that way but now they did not get punished
Anonymous said...
Well SCC, at least it's a start at some sort of accountability of Anita's mental midgets.
Up to now, I've never even heard of any
kind of sanctions like this against any
state's attorneys, have you?
1/17/2013 12:27:00 AM
If you think Anita has seen the light or she is "holding people accountable" then I want to sell you some ocean front property in Arizona.
Anita has received negative publicity. So she is simply covering her ass in response. A typical politician.
Any police officer will tell you that even with overwhelming evidence, ASA's will routinely deny felony charges. It's just standard operating procedure in Cook County.
Blogger West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
Off topic, but important to follow:
A law clerk for IPRA's Rosenzweig was charged today with 3 FELONY counts of "Threatening A Public Official" after he threatened to "go postal and kill" Rosenzweig and coworkers and then himself.
Oh yeah...prior to being hired to help in the grand scheme of fucking over coppers, this stud has been arrested for both domestic battery and VOOP.
While not an IPRA Investigator himself, keep in mind that this asshole represents the caliber of employees hired to investigate you when some ghetto Hoodrat says you motherfucked her over towing her Baby Daddy's car.
Let's see if whatever clout helped him land that job helps keep him out of the media spotlight (and jail) now.
CB #18576813, here in our glorious 002 District lockup, for all interested parties.
1/17/2013 01:08:00 AM
So what? This sort of stuff still won't stop me from being THE WORKING POLICE. I go out there and get dope, weed, guns, warrants, felony suspended license, felony revoked, 501's, class x felonies, etc.... What do you do?
Signed,
Don't hate the player or his game.
Two words for you...absolute immunity. Prosecutors and Judges enjoy it so a suspension is about all you're going to see.
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
Off topic, but important to follow:
A law clerk for IPRA's Rosenzweig was charged today with 3 FELONY counts of "Threatening A Public Official" after he threatened to "go postal and kill" Rosenzweig and coworkers and then himself.
Oh yeah...prior to being hired to help in the grand scheme of fucking over coppers, this stud has been arrested for both domestic battery and VOOP.
While not an IPRA Investigator himself, keep in mind that this asshole represents the caliber of employees hired to investigate you when some ghetto Hoodrat says you motherfucked her over towing her Baby Daddy's car.
Let's see if whatever clout helped him land that job helps keep him out of the media spotlight (and jail) now.
CB #18576813, here in our glorious 002 District lockup, for all interested parties.
1/17/2013 01:08:00 AM
The background of these so called investigators at IPRA is a joke. Check out some of their profiles online. Then follow the trail of who they knew to get hired. Hacks one and all.
Where was the Assault rifle?
@the second comment re: ARDC. You are wrong. Complaints made against all attorneys go to the ARDC. Maybe you are thinking of judges? In which case they go to the Judicial Inquiry Board.
CCSAO should've had Margaret fall on the sword instead . . .she'd have bent it.
The whole bunch from anita on down should be fired. After 40yrs. of police work I don't think I can count on my one hand the one's that were worth a shit. Of course this whole county {politicaly} isn't worth a shit.I might end by saying the same goes for this country.
Wow, still zero on the massive cop settlement. At least call attention to the terrible choice to let this young woman loose near the projects.
Maybe it's the policy of the CCSAO to give their prosecutors 60 day suspensions pending separation...yeah, right!
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Anonymous said...
You guys better get on the ball. Compstat Charlie, aka McDoofus announced today that he wants more ANOV's written, and written NOW! He also ordered Howard of training academy fame, to get a 2 minute training video done ASAP re writing ANOV's!
McCompost also said he is changing the city code re: ANOV's, and dammit, commanders and front line supervisors better tell the troops to start writing them and never let up!
How dare the beat officers not be writing ANOV's and writing contact cards!!!!! It's UNACCEPTABLE!
Not only that, Comppost Charlie wants those ANOV's and contact cards written on YOUR BEAT, nobody else's!!!!!!
Now get moving! Doesn't that motivate you to do more? And go to those CAPS meetings for free while you're at it!!!!!!
What a tool!
1/17/2013 01:42:00 PM
Anita Alvarez can't manage a 3-wheel corn cart, let alone CCSAO.
Adios Chica!
Kiss that seat on the Illinois Supreme Court bye-bye...
Wholly corrupt, morally bankrupt and incompetent hack!
Anonymous said...
From farther down the web log --
"Massive backlash against Obama. Mississippi now joining Missouri and Wyoming in stating will not enforce federal laws. Sheriff of Linn County, Oregon on TV saying the same, will not enforce unconstitutional laws."
1/17/2013 01:26:00 AM
Then they can face the possibility of not getting Federal dollars for projects and programs etc. They scream about socialism, let them try living without Federal dollars. Then they can complain with the IRS and try withholding their taxes. They don't get to decide what is unconstitutional or not. We have courts for that.
Bunch of pussies.
While acknowledging that Eilman was horribly mistreated, 3rd ward Ald. Pat Dowell took issue with the federal judge's written comparison of the Robert Taylor homes to a lion's cage in a zoo.
"I think that comparing a community to animals is inappropriate," Ald. Dowell said. "It could have been another way to say that. And while I agree with the settlement, I think the crime was atrocious, I think the behavior of the officers leaves much to be desired. I take exception with the language used by the court in describing the community in which it happened."
So let's take exception with the language of the judge not the actions of the animals.
Ch 7 reporting how the poor girl was raped on the southside because the abandon buildings in Englewood.
So now abandon buildings are committing crimes not the savage beast of Englewood.
I quit the office because of garbage like this. It's horrible and I believe Cook County's felony review process is the biggest coverup and miscarriage of justice in the entire country. However, don't be so quick to place the blame on these two ASAs, because not all are bad. After fighting to get cases upgraded and charges approved, I continued to be shut down by supervisors and office politics. It made me sick to my stomach and kept me up at night, and after awhile I realized I was fighting a losing battle and had to bail. These two ASAs could've been a couple of good ones who were fighting a similar losing battle and lost big time.
So what? This sort of stuff still won't stop me from being THE WORKING POLICE. I go out there and get dope, weed, guns, warrants, felony suspended license, felony revoked, 501's, class x felonies, etc.... What do you do?
Lol, wait until you're trying to convince 12 people that everything the plaintiffs attorney just said about you is a complete lie.
Hmmmm,, I told you the CCSAO was incompetent. I rest my case.
Next case.
Dan Kirk runs the States Attorney's office, Anita Alverez is just a figurehead
What if the press and publio were to learn about the misdemeanor "baby in the bucket" cases from south and west sides?; the are ALL rejected murders. Not one word. Ever. From anyone.
Hilarious. Idiot liberals in NY forgot to exempt LEO from new gun ban!
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news%2Flocal%2Fnew_york&id=8958116
The wrong people are being disciplined here. It should start at the TOP. I bet these ASA's ran the scenario by with their supervisors but were told something like, "We are not gonna win that one, so don't bother upgrading." Anita gotz to go
Rahm wants guns to be double-banned!
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2013/01/17/mayor-of-gun-violence-capitol-of-america-calls-for-wait-for-it-more-gun-laws/
Yes the state fucked up and should've charged this guy, but really the one to truely blame is the crazy fuck who set the fire.
1-17-2013 9-10AM Happen to know any CPD like that? Heh I can't here you.
1/17/2013 11:32 AM You're absolutely right.
Anonymous said... @the second comment re: ARDC. You are wrong. Complaints made against all attorneys go to the ARDC. Maybe you are thinking of judges? In whic case they go to the Judicial Inquiry Board. 1/17/2013 01:58:00 PM
I was told directly from ARDC that they dont investigate states attorneys for things they do that are work related.
Guys I did write a lenghtly letter to Alvarez's office as to what consequences these moronic ASA would face, the office surprisingly responded quickly and said it was going to investigate and apolegetic. Obviously 60 days suspension is nothing but something is something. It took 20 minutes to write...we are still citizens, voice your digust whenever possible.
I'm sorry but this question is totally off subject....could somebody tell me which districts are now training districts? Thank you
I'm sure many will run to their defense and say that they're doing the best they can.
Well, Crook county is a national disgrace. The staff at the State's Attorney office is a disgusting political sham providing no justice to the citizens of this city and county.
They sleep well at night because they don't care one bit. They never have and never will. Now the next time one of these scum suckers tells you they want your guns because it's for the children, remember this. They don't mind burning children to death. That's what socialist democrats are, and you better never forget it. Well said....Well said bro!!
So what? This sort of stuff still won't stop me from being THE WORKING POLICE. I go out there and get dope, weed, guns, warrants, felony suspended license, felony revoked, 501's, class x felonies, etc.... What do you do?
Signed,
Don't hate the player or his game.
1/17/2013 12:30:00 PM
Please tell me you are joking? If not you need to have your head examined because you sound like a walking hard on. Doing work for this administration is hazardous to my pay check. It's all about the 1st, 16th and 22nd don't you ever forget that. Proactive policing in this city is DEAD! Please for the love of god stop saying working police, that has the same meaning as no nothing moron. Don't ask me to buy a benifit ticket for you, because Mr working police stepped on his ding ding. Loser!
from a troll: the first poster in particular among others hit the nail on the head. I cannot remember in all of my years reading about an ASA let alone two getting nailed on disciplinary charges unless of course she was drunk out of her mind in front of a tattoo or longiere store. They in my opinion were lazy. If there were not, charges would have been filed against this asshole off the bat.
Anonymous said...
Anita has done more then the clouted ones Devine etc. People just have so much hate. Never said anything when the others were in control. Reason being she is a woman and a Latina. So go F... off why dont u. But if it was a good o'l boy nothing would be done just like your Mayor.
1/17/2013 12:00:00 PM
Geez relax, take it easy......... now go get your shine box.
Felony Review was started in the '70s by a Republican States Attorney named Bernard Carey. Cook County is the only county that has it. It is an outdated and inefficient process. Remember that everyone charged with murder as a result of a Jon Burge investigation was approved by Felony Review. None of the media darlings ever report that true fact.
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Blogger West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
Off topic, but important to follow:
A law clerk for IPRA's Rosenzweig was charged today with 3 FELONY counts of "Threatening A Public Official" after he threatened to "go postal and kill" Rosenzweig and coworkers and then himself.
Oh yeah...prior to being hired to help in the grand scheme of fucking over coppers, this stud has been arrested for both domestic battery and VOOP.
While not an IPRA Investigator himself, keep in mind that this asshole represents the caliber of employees hired to investigate you when some ghetto Hoodrat says you motherfucked her over towing her Baby Daddy's car.
Let's see if whatever clout helped him land that job helps keep him out of the media spotlight (and jail) now.
CB #18576813, here in our glorious 002 District lockup, for all interested parties.
1/17/2013 01:08:00 AM
So what? This sort of stuff still won't stop me from being THE WORKING POLICE. I go out there and get dope, weed, guns, warrants, felony suspended license, felony revoked, 501's, class x felonies, etc.... What do you do?
Signed,
Don't hate the player or his game.
Facetiousness noted, there are still too many goofs that think that way for real.
Everyone learns at their own pace. Some never learn.
One of theses attorneys is the same ASA who refused to approve charges for an officer this past August who was head-butted by the Cricket Phone Store robber who ultimately was charged with over a dozen armed robberies. The officer had to have $3000 worth of dental work done to his teeth after the head-butt, but ASA Raven refused to approve charges giving some lame excuse that she had to interview a civilian witness. When challenged by the detectives and invited to go to Englewood at 2 in the morn to interview the all important witness, the ASA backed down and said she was CI-ing the case. Thankfully the Det. was able to have a more sensitive ASA at the Grand Jury just add the charge of Agg Batt to a PO when shit-bird was indicted. ASA Raven clearly had no intention of approving the Agg Batt charge despite the officer having his front teeth knocked out. What kind of sanctions will she face for this fuck-up? None of course, the victim was the police, they don't count. And for all those skeptics out there thinking that her decision making had to have something to do with Police wrongdoing, there was none. The officers were by the book 100%, not a mark on the offender.
Why do we keep voting for these scum bags? It's like going from Roman society back to the dark ages. Democraps are the curse of this country, until we stop letting them get into office things will get worse to a point where civilty ends and the crusades begin.Sadly I beleive we are almost there.
Another Lawyer rewarded. Quinn just gave a UIC trustee position to Pat Fitzgerald. Now he can be repaid for pulling the Blago wire before POTUS could sell the spot to Valerie Jarrett. I'm sure his second in command will be Bill Ayers.
Then they can face the possibility of not getting Federal dollars for projects and programs etc. They scream about socialism, let them try living without Federal dollars. Then they can complain with the IRS and try withholding their taxes. They don't get to decide what is unconstitutional or not. We have courts for that.
Bunch of pussies.
1/17/2013 03:58:00 PM
be careful, stub finger, your insanity is showing.
Wow, still zero on the massive cop settlement. At least call attention to the terrible choice to let this young woman loose near the projects.
1/17/2013 03:19:00 PM
pull your head out from under your mother's skirts.
Where was the Assault rifle?
1/17/2013 01:10:00 PM
in the library, right next to the candlestick.
Don't tell Democrats about this case, they will want to ban gasoline.
1/17/2013 09:26:00 AM
Too late. They already do.
If a police detective or officers fails to arrest and charge someone "accordingly" then someone dies as a result (OR video beating of a barmaid spills on the internet, or some nut job gets beat up and thrown out the window) you can bet that the officer loses his job, followed by a lawsuit that goes into the millions and those pesky criminal charges that always seem to get upgraded by CCSAO... but they pass the buck and it's a 60 day suspension.... I think it becomes very obvious whats wrong with Cook County when the SA aren't held to the same standard as Officers. Put these SA's on trial for negligent homicide it's the only responsible thing to do.
after throwing herself in front of the bus for the Daleys, you'd better believe she WILL get the supreme court seat.
As far as what anyone thinks about it, i've got news for you.....They don't give a fuck!
Coleman's face is always red. is he a big boozer?
If a police detective or officers fails to arrest and charge someone "accordingly" then someone dies as a result (OR video beating of a barmaid spills on the internet, or some nut job gets beat up and thrown out the window) you can bet that the officer loses his job, followed by a lawsuit that goes into the millions and those pesky criminal charges that always seem to get upgraded by CCSAO... but they pass the buck and it's a 60 day suspension.... I think it becomes very obvious whats wrong with Cook County when the SA aren't held to the same standard as Officers. Put these SA's on trial for negligent homicide it's the only responsible thing to do.
1/18/2013 02:26:00 AM
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cops can't be sued for failing to arrest someone
You can throw a lit cigarette in a tub of gasoline all day and it won't ignite.
1/17/2013 10:09:00 AM
If you were sitting in that tub making that statement I would be impressed. As it is, I think you are just an asshole.
Anonymous said...
Felony Review was started in the '70s by a Republican States Attorney named Bernard Carey. Cook County is the only county that has it. It is an outdated and inefficient process. Remember that everyone charged with murder as a result of a Jon Burge investigation was approved by Felony Review. None of the media darlings ever report that true fact.
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1/17/2013 10:14:00 PM
You are wrong. Lake County also has a felony review. There are other counties as well. Get your facts straight.
"...if you throw a lit cigarette into a tub filled with gasoline it won't ignite..."
You don't mind if I don't try it, do you?
Anita Alvarez did not invent felony review. CI's and mutual combat and charges rejected were going on when I came on the job in '82. Those practices continued under numerous state's attorneys, both democratic and republican. None of this is new in Chicago; it is just a continuation of business as usual. Charges have been rejected even when the victims are cooperative. Hell, I recall and ASA rejecting charges against a male CNA who sexually assaulted a severly mentally retarded woman who resided in a state facility. The 21 year old victim was blind, could not talk and had been institutionalized most of her life. Staff members in the facility caught the CNA and detained him for police. The ASA who reviewed the case declined charges because, in his opinion, the sex could have been consentual. Fortunately, a street deputy approved an over ride. Felony review has devolved into a way of sending only sure winners or plea bargins to court.
in over 20 years of law enforcement my experiences with asa's at the trial level have been positive--- we have all got into pissing matches with the asa's at felony review--- some of that is our fault because coppers try to ram a horseshit case thru for that all important activity--- others are dead bang winners with good vic's, witnesses, etc... and they deny charges--- these two were given 60 days because of the political fall out and intense media coverage--- alvarez had to do something because she is still wiping the egg off her face from the koschman indictment--- the ccsao has their own code of silence....
Wow, still zero on the massive cop settlement. At least call attention to the terrible choice to let this young woman loose near the projects.
1/17/2013 03:19:00 PM
Right, because if she would have been held for a couple days, or transported somewhere when she wanted to be let out immediately, there would have been no deprivation of freedom lawsuit. It isn't the police's fault that the liberals have turned cities into violent hell holes. Does CPD now have to release people in Dupage county only?
Someone should really look into the Jonathan Resto case.charges rejected with 3 witnesses, offender Miranda is released without charging,then goes out and ball bats a young kid coming home from his girlfriends house. The kid is brain dead. Nobody seemed to care at ccsa until it was time to cover there ass on letting Miranda loose
It starts at the top, with Anita Alvarez. The blood of those who suffered this tragedy is on Anita Alvarez's hands.
And to those who keep attacking the decision to let the woman go at 002: SHE was offered a cab and REFUSED, She was offered a ride, by squad, and REFUSED. She is an adult and SHE made the choice, her psychie plays no role since WE cannot have her commited, because we believe she is 'not fit'. It is not our job to force assistance when the adult refuses our assistance.
SUSPENSION. Shouldn't these dumbasses be fired? Isn't there a way to prosecute them for derelict of duty or something? Didn't these do nothing's have a duty to act in the BEST interest of the children? Didn't they FAIL to do so? This is amazing how this stuff happens.
I'm not really big on lawsuits, but I really hope the little boy survives and his guardians sue the living crap out of Anita and her office for their failure to act. The article that I read has Anita already admitting that they made a mistake by not seeking felony charges on this guy.
Wouldn't this be somewhat they same as the CPD leaving that girl out of jail by area 1 and her getting attack. Because of their failure to protect this family.
CCSAO= Totally Incompetent Leadership. Patronage is all that matters for advancement, not competence.
CCSAO= Totally Incompetent Leadership. Patronage is all that matters for advancement, not competence.
Felony Review was started in the '70s by a Republican States Attorney named Bernard Carey. Cook County is the only county that has it. It is an outdated and inefficient process. Remember that everyone charged with murder as a result of a Jon Burge investigation was approved by Felony Review. None of the media darlings ever report that true fact.
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1/17/2013 10:14:00 PM
Other counties (Dupage, Kane and Will) have it too. Their S/As just have common sense.
Anonymous said...
If a police detective or officers fails to arrest and charge someone "accordingly" then someone dies as a result (OR video beating of a barmaid spills on the internet, or some nut job gets beat up and thrown out the window) you can bet that the officer loses his job, followed by a lawsuit that goes into the millions and those pesky criminal charges that always seem to get upgraded by CCSAO... but they pass the buck and it's a 60 day suspension.... I think it becomes very obvious whats wrong with Cook County when the SA aren't held to the same standard as Officers. Put these SA's on trial for negligent homicide it's the only responsible thing to do.
When people are able to sue states attorneys and judges only then will crime go down!
But I thought the abandon buildings were all demolished and when they were up they responsible for guns and drugs? *sarcasm off*
The CCSAO removed the kids from the care of the mother and father and the kids were placed with dCFS and a DCFS foster parent got tired of watching the kids and dropped them off with grandma where dad was staying and the same place where the fatal fire was ultimately set. So the CCSAO did act in the best interests of the children. In fact a juvenile court judge ordered that visits had to be supervised so let's also lay some blame on DCFS and the Foster Parent. ASAs on felony review can only review the case presented by the police and in this case Cicero wanted a rejection and said case was going nowhere. Remember it was Cicero who didn't ask for a deputy override or file misdemeanor charges also. There may have been wrong decisions by the CCSAO but there's a whole lotta blame to go around. This blog is full of haters who have no clue the actual facts of the case or the way things transpired. Some of you must be the same coppers who want 4 defendants charged with possessing a single gun in a car in a locked center console. Get a grip.
Take a bite out of crime !
Wait? What happened to my teeth?
Why did Cicero PD call it in as a rejection? Why didn't Cicero PD ask for override? Or file misdemeanor charges? Why weren't kids being monitored more closely by DCFS? Why was father allowed even supervised visitation?
Father was in mental health facility since original event in September and when he got out, then he went after the family; wouldn't he have been in the same place had Cicero PD asked for felony charges and they were granted by the ASA?
I try not to Monday morning quarterback, but this seems like an awful lot of blame being heaped on just two people who were in one very specific position.
asa jennifer ravin will not be hurt by the 60 day suspension, give her more time with her babies. She is a Northe Shore rich kid who is married to a doctor.
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