FTO Exam Saturday
Did we cover this? Did we miss it completely? You'd think with 600 recruits on the way out to fight crime, we'd have covered this more:
- Dear Candidate:
Congratulations on your eligibility to participate in the Police Officer Assigned as Field Training Officer selection process.
The written practical examination will be held on Saturday, 2 March 2013, at the Education and Training Division, 1300 West Jackson . The test will begin promptly at 0900 hours.
Each eligible applicant is asked to report to the Education and Training Division between 0800-0900 hours. Please allow sufficient time to locate legal parking. Applicants must bring their Chicago Police Department identification card and two sharpened number two pencils to obtain entry. LATE ARRIVALS WILL NOT BE ALLOLWED ENTRY.
Members will not be compensated for participating in the testing during off-duty hours. The Unit Watch Commander/Commanding Officer will excuse a member who has been scheduled for testing during duty hours, provided they are notified by the effected member at least 48 hours prior to the scheduled testing.
It seems spell-check is optional over at the Bureau of Organizational Development. And the reference to the non-existent "watch commander" position is amusing as a Bureau with the word "Organizational" ought to at least have the Department command structure at its fingertips
No idea how many people signed up to take this, but nothing would surprise us at this point.
Good luck to all the candidates.
No idea how many people signed up to take this, but nothing would surprise us at this point.
Good luck to all the candidates.
Labels: promotions
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
85 Comments:
I like best the part about late arrivals not being allowed in!! BS, they always let them in
Should I waste my time? Scored higher than fifty on the last FTO exam. ZERO were given the position.
You heard it here first, Desk Sergeants to make their triumphant return. Rumor has these unprodigal sons and daughters coming home within the next 2-3 periods. Seems the idiots at Fort Fellatio have finally figured out who really runs the watch. The injection of all the new sergeants will make this a no-brainer as they have plenty of chevrons to go around. But the bigger reason is that MLAS smells a loser when it comes to arbitration for the THOUSANDS of grievances filed by people that have been screwed out of acting D/S pay. Typical city and department........they always wind up paying more in the long run instead of just paying these people what they deserve.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if less than a dozen people showed up?
the reference to "watch commander" is not amusing...it is pathetic...who ever composed/approved/sent out the notice should be immediately sent to a district...pathetic
Ye FOOLS
I did the math on this one scc. U would only make $1,583 more a year. Thats not even enough to go on a disney cruise with the family. No thanks. You can make that amount working 5 days of vri.
MG
nice catch but ill never get used to not say watch commander..bring it back!
You can't fix stupid. or The IMBECILES leading the blind to the slaughter or progressive ignorance !
Good Luck men. Get the spot and train them like the old timers trained us retired/wheel gun guys.
Bless you all.
From the "Focus Group" meeting of supervisors with the inventor of modern policing, McShorttimer:
Recruits will NOT be going to the districts for field training and qualification. They will be going directly to VRI. There is a strong possibility that the new sergeants will be going there to supervise them.
Christ Almighty! What the hell is McShorttimer and his minions smoking? These kids are mostly clueless for the majority of their "cycles". They can't write reports, communicate with citizens properly, establish probable cause, understand departmental procedure, articulate reasonable suspicion, etc.
On top of it, they are afraid to put their hands on anyone, or make any stops because they are not able to apply their academy training to their experience on the streets!
No field training for recruits to see if they should be field qualified as police officers might eventually mean big payouts down the road for all of the fucked up things they will end up doing.
Evidently, the man who invented modern policing is clueless as to how to train new cops. So, the plan might be for some new version of the jump out boys to be resurrected? Stay tune.
NYPD here with a question or two. Do you get more money as an FTO. What if there are no recent graduates do you still get more money? Thanx and
Be safe
How big is the class of Lt. And Sgt. are going to be promote ?
I think there will be a very low turn out. I haven't met a person yet that wants this BS. The pay is way too low to put up with all the non-sense. P.S. get rid of those silly FTO patches that let all the shit heads know the copper your working with is a rookie.
so nice of the department to give us less then a weeks notice.
No thanks. I'd rather work the wagon.
Shame on you SCC! You violated your own rule, Grammar Nazi!!!
be careful all you shining stars--- one of you might be the fto for our very own supernintendo ppo mcwhiskeybreath--- better stock up on the contact cards--- rahmbo wants gmac retreaded because he is one of his poorest performers and we can't have that in the fourth most miserable city to live in--- rahmbo has been chewing his fingernails down to the nubs in a semi catatonic state waiting for the next cpd f$#k up--- he won't have to wait long....
Seems that 9.5 and McDork forgot that little part of our contract that covers IOD and compensation. If you get hurt and go IOD while working VRI you're going to be rich. Seems they forgot that little part of our contract that states, you will be compensated at the rate you were getting at the time of the IOD. It has already happened twice in the past month. So now those officers are now getting checks that are 1.5 times the amount they usually would get. So hey get on a car accident, enjoy several months of time and a half.
You are kidding right? The city will not pay you for showing up to take the test on your off duty hours. Why would anyone take this test on duty or off duty. The unlucky ones who take the test and pass it will be shipped where ever they need you for training(Can you say GHETTO0). Then when they no longer need you you lose the extra couple of dollars and you get to stay in the GHETTO. FUCK YOU RAHM!!!
A word advise !
Upon the last day you are at the academy they will tell you, your units of assignment. Please do not have a look of " oh shit, that's not what I was told, but - but " you will be told to report and if you think you can just resign and go back to whatever unit you were in WRONG ANSWER !
Before you go and start FTO school ask both FTO Bernath and the ADS for clarification in writing as to the district selection and resignation process! You will get either " it's a great opportunity and a advancement in pay or you will be lied too and the UNION will sell you out !
Just sayin ,but ask yourself how many bosses were ever a FTO and that answer will speak volumes about how much the department cares about the FTO program!
NYPD at 3:37 AM
Yes. About $132 a month with or without a PPO.
Stay safe, my brother.
If you sign up for this you are soft as puppy shit
Wouldn't it be hilarious if less than a dozen people showed up?
2/28/2013 01:08:00 AM
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Not gonna happen. Plenty of coppers see this as a huge promotion and will jump at the chance to get an extra couple bucks and a patch on the sleeve... to work the ghetto on rotating shifts without a partner and evaluate kids that were trained that policework will get you arrested. Oh, and your "evaluations" don't really have any bearing or weight... it takes an act of God to fire somebody that never should have been hired in the first place. Some coppers will do ANYTHING for an extra patch....
Want to fix the FTO program? make it a fast-track to Sgt. and ONLY offer it to those with time and a crapload of activity. The ones DOING THE JOB should be the ones TEACHING the job, and the ones ADVANCING on the job. But hey, that makes sense, so screw that!
OFF TOPIC: Here we go again on the Marlon Lynch merry-go-round here at the UCPD. Over a year ago, he fired all of our watch commanders/Lts. Said he just didn't need them anymore, that Sgts. could run the two watches. In the middle of last year, he held a meeting with all of the sgts., informing them that "only two or three of you I feel has my back; the rest of you can either resign your position as sgt. and return to the rank of patrolman with no penalty, or prepare to be fired." Several of them have done just that, in order to keep their jobs (anyone here over the rank of patrolman has no job security at all). Now it appears Lynch isn't entirely satisfied in how the sgts. have managed the watches, because the U of C is advertising openings for Capts. to return here at the UCPD to...you guessed it....RUN THE WATCHES! It's just sad to watch what used to be such a great place to work just get run right into the ground. Doty was bad enough, but Marlon seems to have gone from drinking to actually smoking his own kool-aide! And Lynch still wonders why no one will sign up to take any promotional exams for this Godforsaken place...If it weren't so depressing to work here, you'd have to laugh at how incredibly stupid our top management is!
It is s cute patch though.
Wonder how many are actually gonna show up for this test. FTO pay is a joke! They actually should be getting sgts pay because they are essentially doing a supervisor's job- overseeing the officer, reviewing reports and decisions/protocol of every call. Plus, getting pulled from your district of origin and dumped in the ghetto. Meanwhile, the powers that be are deciding whether or not you will get a pension and if you do, you'll have to cross your fingers and pray you can still collect depending how high they feel like raising the retirement age- all for an extra 1k/year?!?!? FK THAT!
I heard about 280 notices sent out. How many show up is a different thing.
I am better off retired. No FTO test. Really, retirement is better than I thought. No CPD bullshit. No up late reading the latest on the blog. And yesterday was a pension check, auto deposit, like magic. It is wonderful. Keep up the good work, stay safe and keep paying in to the pension fund.
Anonymous said...I think there will be a very low turn out. I haven't met a person yet that wants this BS. The pay is way too low to put up with all the non-sense. P.S. get rid of those silly FTO patches that let all the shit heads know the copper your working with is a rookie.
2/28/2013 03:53:00 AM
I got partnered with some fto with her patches on for a night and some shit head tells me "you a rookie with yo training officer". I couldn't stop laughing. He says "what you be laughin fo" and the fto tells the dumbass that I've got twice as much time on the job as she does. So you're right, those patches are useless and a tip off to the scumbags which could be dangerous for the ppo.
There isn't enough help in the field to absorb any substantial number of FTO's.
As one poster said, the shit-birds are not only bold but fully enabled and empowered to exploit the fact that one officer is brand new. Given the current climate and intentional shrinkage of the department, putting those silly "make believe lance corporal" chevrons on becomes a BIGGER officer safety issue than at anytime in the department's history.
The elephant in the room?
Who, of any quality WANTS the damn thing nowadays? The city has used every opportunity over the last 20+ years to in general FUCK UP the FTO position and FUCK UP Field Training particularly.
For the long-time Patrolman, (and the ones paying attention to what's going on) this bocomes a simple cost/benefit - risk management analysis of the same type applied by the little suphurous odor emitting imp at city hall...
FTO is THE most critical position on this JOB!
Until the position is reincarnated into exactly what it's SUPPOSED to be, there will always be a whiff of bullshit everytime the department puts on a talent show...
You heard it here first, Desk Sergeants to make their triumphant return. Rumor has these unprodigal sons and daughters coming home within the next 2-3 periods. Seems the idiots at Fort Fellatio have finally figured out who really runs the watch. The injection of all the new sergeants will make this a no-brainer as they have plenty of chevrons to go around. But the bigger reason is that MLAS smells a loser when it comes to arbitration for the THOUSANDS of grievances filed by people that have been screwed out of acting D/S pay. Typical city and department........they always wind up paying more in the long run instead of just paying these people what they deserve.
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Does that mean sergeants will STILL be DSS or now only LTs ??
You heard it here first, Desk Sergeants to make their triumphant return. Rumor has these unprodigal sons and daughters coming home within the next 2-3 periods. Seems the idiots at Fort Fellatio have finally figured out who really runs the watch. The injection of all the new sergeants will make this a no-brainer as they have plenty of chevrons to go around. But the bigger reason is that MLAS smells a loser when it comes to arbitration for the THOUSANDS of grievances filed by people that have been screwed out of acting D/S pay. Typical city and department........they always wind up paying more in the long run instead of just paying these people what they deserve.
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Never going to happen. Downtown is making more sergeants just to keep up with the retirements. They want all sergeants on the street supervising. They think more supervisors means crime will come down. And that's never going to happen either. All smoke and mirrors.
Lemme do it.
I'll show 'em how how to blow the smoke out of the barrel before you re-holster that weapon.
This is for NYPD's question you get roughly $100 more per paycheck even when you have no recruit. They give 30 min compensation time each day you work. The 30 minutes additional are only given when you are training recruits.
As for the idiot that said recruits will not be trained by FTO's and will be going directly to VRI all I have to say shut the fuck up it is clear you don't know shit
Heard 200-250 signed up to take exam.
Please bring back the desk sgt's. They really did most of the in house stuff and kept things running smoothly. What we got going now is just extremely chaotic and a very poor idea.
So nice of the dept to give a test, and then promote NOBODY off of it.
Anonymous said...
You heard it here first, Desk Sergeants to make their triumphant return. Rumor has these unprodigal sons and daughters coming home within the next 2-3 periods. Seems the idiots at Fort Fellatio have finally figured out who really runs the watch. The injection of all the new sergeants will make this a no-brainer as they have plenty of chevrons to go around. But the bigger reason is that MLAS smells a loser when it comes to arbitration for the THOUSANDS of grievances filed by people that have been screwed out of acting D/S pay. Typical city and department........they always wind up paying more in the long run instead of just paying these people what they deserve.
2/28/2013 01:06:00 AM
The smart districts still hide a sgt inside to do all the desk sgt stuff. Some rules just are not effective and for the betterment of the dept need to be bent/ignored.
Just be aware, while the GO for the test states that the new FTO's will be returned to their districts after training, it also states further down that the FTO's will be ASSIGNED to their districts based on DEPARTMENT NEEDS. In short, expect to be sent to which ever "training district" is short on manpower. They have stated that they will open up new training districts, but they did not say when...
If the dept took this program seriously, they would not have ordered on PO (FTO) to throw a test together in just a few days.
If the dept took this program seriously, they would give more then a few days notice as to the date and time of the test.
So, while most P/O's see the FTO program as important (but broken), the dept proves again how little it cares about the program, much less fixing it.
1.5 hours a day for doing the same job.
I'm taking the test.
26 Lt s and 92 Sgt s May 1st. Rumor is Sgt s March 15th
You gotta be goofy to apply for this. The department has torpedoed the FTO program every time they do this.
Good luck to the NEW FTO'S ! You are about to be a victim of a '" AGGRAVATED - CSA " !
some fto's in 008 have 2 ppo's at same time and riding 3 deep with them,wtf its nice the dept. is hiring but training them right would help and plus most fto's are so so just ask the recruits
Took the last one, at least 5 or more years ago and scored in 80s only to have them basically do away with FTOs. Blow me, midnights in the ghetto teaching a new guy or girl isn't fun anymore
Anonymous said...
Seems that 9.5 and McDork forgot that little part of our contract that covers IOD and compensation. If you get hurt and go IOD while working VRI you're going to be rich. Seems they forgot that little part of our contract that states, you will be compensated at the rate you were getting at the time of the IOD. It has already happened twice in the past month. So now those officers are now getting checks that are 1.5 times the amount they usually would get. So hey get on a car accident, enjoy several months of time and a half.
2/28/2013 08:45:00 AM
I heard the same thing. And here's the BEST part regarding one officer that got IOD while assigned to VRI: that douchebag Sergeant 1130 refused to sign off on an injured officers IOD. Said he wouldn't sign off on it because "special employment IODs don't happen. Officers don't get hurt when they're making time and a half". I betcha this loser voted in favor of the sergeants contract. What a loser!
Anonymous said...
A word advise !
Upon the last day you are at the academy they will tell you, your units of assignment. Please do not have a look of " oh shit, that's not what I was told, but - but " you will be told to report and if you think you can just resign and go back to whatever unit you were in WRONG ANSWER !
Before you go and start FTO school ask both FTO Bernath and the ADS for clarification in writing as to the district selection and resignation process! You will get either " it's a great opportunity and a advancement in pay or you will be lied too and the UNION will sell you out !
Just sayin ,but ask yourself how many bosses were ever a FTO and that answer will speak volumes about how much the department cares about the FTO program!
2/28/2013 08:55:00 AM
Asking Lodding anything is a complete waste of time. Lodding does not have a clue to what is happening. He is so scared to make a decision and will avoid any questions. Bernath is on top of things and will give the right answer if he knows it. I trust bernath not Lodding. What for the first class of FTO's, Wait for the first day and listen to Lodding's bullshit and how he avoids serious questions.
Re:Seems that 9.5 and McDork forgot that little part of our contract that covers IOD and compensation. If you get hurt and go IOD while working VRI you're going to be rich. Seems they forgot that little part of our contract that states, you will be compensated at the rate you were getting at the time of the IOD.
Where in the contract is that cause I sure can't find it and I've been off iOd from vri the last 2 months
Hey,
Whatever happened to the grievance the FOP filed on behalf of Limited Duty?
Remember back in the late 80's/early 90's the department was shit-talking about pay-grades tied to education like L.A.P.D?
The clouted hacks cried about it because going to school would interfere with the time they devote to playing kiss-ass.
It would've been "too fair" if applied to the lower ranks.
The so called bosses?
>Pffft!<
How many of those goofs had their secretaries and drivers doing their school work for them?
Or better still, how many were blessed to be able to read and study on company time?
CPD doesn't give a shit about operational preparedness, equipping officers for career advancement or growing and grooming good leaders.
Why?
It poses a threat to the fuckery and machinations of the mayor, alderfools, the media, rev'runs, "community activists" and everybody else "impo'tant" who has a vested interest in making sure this Department is walked to a stand-still.
Heh... Can't have an untouched, untainted and un-fucked with Police Department now!
They might get "funny ideas" like going after the corrupt powers that be behind the scenes.
1:34 am. If you did the math and that's what you came up with, you must be a product of the public school system or been the dumbest shit in the parochial school system. The pay tables don't lie. I'm making four grand more than a patrolman and for the past few years I haven't had to do any training to get it. Add the extra 45 min a day and your numbers don't add up. I'll sit at home and watch tv while you're working your days off.
Thank you on behalf of the recruits who won't have to deal with the likes of you.
Time and one-half for being IOD? Where do you morons even think you read that one? Nowhere, I repeat nowhere, does our contract say that. Jesus, you poor fuckers can't even read.
Bring back Desk Sgt. , they do 90% of work . Let Lt's run the watch and assign field lts to an area .
Captains / XO's are unnecessary , most never passed sgt or lt test.
merit political hacks .
USMC said...
This is for NYPD's question you get roughly $100 more per paycheck even when you have no recruit. They give 30 min compensation time each day you work. The 30 minutes additional are only given when you are training recruits.
As for the idiot that said recruits will not be trained by FTO's and will be going directly to VRI all I have to say shut the fuck up it is clear you don't know shit
2/28/2013 12:54:00 PM
Thank you & Semper Fi.
You heard it here first, Desk Sergeants to make their triumphant return.
Already in place in 011.
I just want those cool Corporal chevrons.
Since the union is run by the detective div FTO's will prob never get the d2A pay they deserve and is prob what would save the program. if 100 are hired dists are opened this may have life will see fto's.
OT...
You all are going to EXPLODE in INCREDULITY when you see the huge change announced tomorrow.
Strap in baby, cuz here it comes.
WOWZA. Never believe this one.
Remember the FTO class of 2003?. Do you think it's gonna be any better.
Good luck recruits. All of us want to see you trained right. EACH AND EVERYONE OF US HAVE WALKED IN YOUR SHOES.. Hopefully by the time you all get some time on the job they will have figured out what the fuck to do to straighten out the FTO program.
So true about Lodding..... Scared of his own shadow & scared to make a decision. He will defer any decision making to others. Period!
I will never take another exam because they are fixed. The last sergeants exam took nine months to get a score for the second half of the exam. Now tell me that doesn't seem fishy. What a great way for the city to make extra cash take your money and you have as much as a chance getting promoted as winning the lottery. Everyone I have seen get promoted have clout or a political connection.
Anonymous said...
Hey,
Whatever happened to the grievance the FOP filed on behalf of Limited Duty?
2/28/2013 06:04:00 PM
Decision is in.
Read all about it in a super secret place: The FOP's web site.
Anyone got an fto story about "Pat The Cat" from 15? I miss him
"Should I waste my time? Scored higher than fifty on the last FTO exam. ZERO were given the position."
Yes. Take every promotional exam you can.
You never know when you'll benefit from someone else's lawsuit.
rb
"If the dept took this program seriously..."
Sadly, there really isn't much that the department takes seriously, unless it's truly to their benefit.
CPD is very fortunate to have some good people that actually make the thing work, despite the challenges that the department itself imposes.
No, I'm NOT one of those people, but I know a few.
Be careful, Boys & Girls.
you have as much as a chance getting promoted as winning the lottery.
It SHOULD be a lottery at this point.
Certainly less costly that giving a test.
Definitely more fair.
Diminishes the propriety of the process, but at least it wouldn't be as corrupt a process as it clearly is now.
I will never take another exam because they are fixed. The last sergeants exam took nine months to get a score for the second half of the exam. Now tell me that doesn't seem fishy. What a great way for the city to make extra cash take your money and you have as much as a chance getting promoted as winning the lottery. Everyone I have seen get promoted have clout or a political connection.
2/28/2013 10:08:00 PM
Spoken like every little boy that took his bat and ball and went home. Too bad your father never straightened you out. Mine did the day I did that. I'll try here.
Everybody knows or is realated to someone on this job. It doesn't mean they all get help. They have to make some people legit. They run the railroad. Do some get a hand up? Sure. Just like in life.
Study, work hard and do the best you can. Score in the upper numbers and they HAVE to make you. Look at some of the complete loons that are bosses. They are crazy, but they are smart and they had to be made.
In the corporate world, it is all who you know and who likes you. On this Department, you have a shot no matter what. Take it.
Hey, NYPD. Call the FOP to get the real answer.
1008 pm. God, it must be terrible to be so bitter and have such a shitty outlook on life. As for the FTO exam being fixed. WRONG! You get your test score when you walk out the door and it doesn't cost anything to take the test. Perhaps you didn't score well on the sgts test because you either didn't or can't read even the simplest of orders.
Personnally, with your shit attitude I am grateful you will never take another test. You won't have the ability to make anyone, other than your partner if you even have one, more miserable than you.
Question: I signed up to take FTO test, not because I want that thankless job, but because I thought it might be good practice for Sgts. test. This is the first test I have been eligible for in my 10 years on the job. My question is if I pass the test, can they force me to take the position? In the past, I would say no way, but under that nut job Ladner and Mc Bullshit who knows?
Anonymous said...
I will never take another exam because they are fixed. The last sergeants exam took nine months to get a score for the second half of the exam. Now tell me that doesn't seem fishy. What a great way for the city to make extra cash take your money and you have as much as a chance getting promoted as winning the lottery. Everyone I have seen get promoted have clout or a political connection.
2/28/2013 10:08:00 PM
Please, please reconsider! We need to to lead us. Please take the test! You'll be a great leader!
Anonymous said...
Bring back Desk Sgt. , they do 90% of work . Let Lt's run the watch and assign field lts to an area .
Captains / XO's are unnecessary , most never passed sgt or lt test.
merit political hacks .
2/28/2013 07:57:00 PM
That's exactly why we have to get rid of Desk Sergeants. They work so hard they're all going to drop dead right on the job.
Have you ever seen a Desk Sergeant who wasn't sweaty? That's because they're working too hard!
1127X said...
You heard it here first, Desk Sergeants to make their triumphant return.
Already in place in 011.
2/28/2013 08:49:00 PM
Not on 3rd watch. If Lt JA can bring in a sergeant on days and Lt SS on midnights has a sergeant to do their jobs, 3/W should have one too.
Hey,
Whatever happened to the grievance the FOP filed on behalf of Limited Duty?
2/28/2013 06:04:00 PM
FOP basically lost You can only be on limited duty for 2 years and then you go on disability after using your furlo, P and bfd , cu and one year on the medical
Bad part is the clock started ticking I Jan 2012, not from the date of the decision
There's a desk sergeant in 011! Where?
Anonymous said...
Question: I signed up to take FTO test, not because I want that thankless job, but because I thought it might be good practice for Sgts. test. This is the first test I have been eligible for in my 10 years on the job. My question is if I pass the test, can they force me to take the position? In the past, I would say no way, but under that nut job Ladner and Mc Bullshit who knows?
3/01/2013 09:13:00 AM
Being a future FTO, you should know the answer to that.
I will never take another exam because they are fixed. The last sergeants exam took nine months to get a score for the second half of the exam. Now tell me that doesn't seem fishy. What a great way for the city to make extra cash take your money and you have as much as a chance getting promoted as winning the lottery. Everyone I have seen get promoted have clout or a political connection.
2/28/2013 10:08:00 PM
Spoken like every little boy that took his bat and ball and went home. Too bad your father never straightened you out. Mine did the day I did that. I'll try here.
Everybody knows or is realated to someone on this job. It doesn't mean they all get help. They have to make some people legit. They run the railroad. Do some get a hand up? Sure. Just like in life.
Study, work hard and do the best you can. Score in the upper numbers and they HAVE to make you. Look at some of the complete loons that are bosses. They are crazy, but they are smart and they had to be made.
In the corporate world, it is all who you know and who likes you. On this Department, you have a shot no matter what. Take it.
3/01/2013 05:48:00 AM
Completely agree some guys are good test takers but god bless the guys without a phone call you will be in area south on midnights.All the guys with pull will make it back to the northside and the rest will be listening to shaniqua and her complaints and trying to talk people outta beefs.I can see why a few guys would want it that are close to retiring because they have an exit strategy leaving with a higher pension but the rest of you younger guys without clout will be stuck in a shithole for years.Either way guys good luck.
Already in place in 011.
2/28/2013 08:49:00 PM
Not on 3rd watch. If Lt JA can bring in a sergeant on days and Lt SS on midnights has a sergeant to do their jobs, 3/W should have one too.
I'm sure it won't be long before the 3rd Heard sees DK manning the desk Sgt's seat again.
Anonymous said...
Question: I signed up to take FTO test, not because I want that thankless job, but because I thought it might be good practice for Sgts. test. This is the first test I have been eligible for in my 10 years on the job. My question is if I pass the test, can they force me to take the position? In the past, I would say no way, but under that nut job Ladner and Mc Bullshit who knows?
3/01/2013 09:13:00 AM
Seriously? 10 years on the job and you don't know the answer to whether you can be "forced" to take the position?
And you want to teach recruits?
Puhleeeeeeze.
To the person asking about the non IOD limited duty, do you ever go on your unions website? The arbitrators decision is posted there, even Ray Charles could see it......I'm not even in your union but I still read their website..........To the crybaby that will never take another exam, well I guess you will never be promoted, yes there are those that study the exam and those that study for the exam, I fall in the second group and my studying paid off, I have bars and I don't owe anyone for them. Obviously you didn't score high enough to be promoted because if you did you probably wouldnt care about the alleged 9 month delay in reporting scores........
I will never take another exam because they are fixed. The last sergeants exam took nine months to get a score for the second half of the exam. Now tell me that doesn't seem fishy. What a great way for the city to make extra cash take your money and you have as much as a chance getting promoted as winning the lottery. Everyone I have seen get promoted have clout or a political connection.
While the others give you a hard time, I understand completely. The department is a political cesspool just like the city, county, and state. I have seen completely incompetent people awarded exempt spots, I have seen people who did little or no police work, and of course those who have been groomed from day one, climb the ladder while stepping over everyone else, it's frustrating as hell to watch.
I too gave up taking tests and have no regrets. No crybaby here, just someone who would like to see everyone coming on get a fair shake, what's wrong with that. I venture to guess tha those who have a problem with it are those who are benefitting from it. Go figure
Anonymous said...
Question: I signed up to take FTO test, not because I want that thankless job, but because I thought it might be good practice for Sgts. test. This is the first test I have been eligible for in my 10 years on the job. My question is if I pass the test, can they force me to take the position? In the past, I would say no way, but under that nut job Ladner and Mc Bullshit who knows?
3/01/2013 09:13:00 AM
hay po with 10 years on the job the FTO test is just like the SGT'S AND DET'S test. if you do well on this test you will do real good on those !!!
How many showed up? I am dying to know
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