Desk Sergeants Back?
Could it be someone discovered that they were a necessary part of the operation?
- You heard it here first, Desk Sergeants to make their triumphant return. Rumor has these unprodigal sons and daughters coming home within the next 2-3 periods. Seems the idiots at Fort Fellatio have finally figured out who really runs the watch. The injection of all the new sergeants will make this a no-brainer as they have plenty of chevrons to go around. But the bigger reason is that MLAS smells a loser when it comes to arbitration for the THOUSANDS of grievances filed by people that have been screwed out of acting D/S pay. Typical city and department........they always wind up paying more in the long run instead of just paying these people what they deserve.
Hopefully, everyone who worked as "acting" Desk Sergeants kept close track of their hours. There is a potential payout coming.
There are already a few naysayers in the comment sections where this first appeared (the FTO Exam post), but this has been one of the larger blunders by McNYPD and his crew. It was important to have someone in the chain of command to check over paper work, take responsibility for inventories, and making sure lockups, court runs/notifications ran smoothly.
It was also important to have someone to "blame" if any of that didn't go through - you know they weren't going to suspend lieutenants for stuff they hadn't had to cover for decades.
There are already a few naysayers in the comment sections where this first appeared (the FTO Exam post), but this has been one of the larger blunders by McNYPD and his crew. It was important to have someone in the chain of command to check over paper work, take responsibility for inventories, and making sure lockups, court runs/notifications ran smoothly.
It was also important to have someone to "blame" if any of that didn't go through - you know they weren't going to suspend lieutenants for stuff they hadn't had to cover for decades.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
27 Comments:
009th District way ahead of the curve on the desk sergeant thing
Heard the 001 district has a new Commander! Captain Al Nagode..... That guy is horrible and all about himself. Sorry but I would rather work for CW.
All I have to say is 1 is a great place to work but this guy is a horrible person to be the face of the department in of all places the business hub of Chicago. He is all ego and no hearing. The worst person to deal with and loves to confront coppers physically to a fight.
why would we need a second set of eye to bolster accountability and decrease errors?....its not like the city ever get sued and loses millions of dollars
I hope this is true. Not for me but for the poor bastards that work the desk downstairs in 011. I'm around there for both 2/w and 3/w and I have never seen a busier desk in my 28 yr career. I was so intrigued that i had to ask what a typical day is like down there: they usually have more than 40 arrestees in their lockup that they are responsible for while places like Central detention may have half that amount. They approve inventories from the district, spec Emp, area teams, narcotics, every unit out of homan Sq. and the detectives that work up here in the old A4. There is always a line out the door of people wanting reports. Prisoners needing to go to the hospital for bullshit treatments. Prisoners going all over the city for line ups. Prisoners going to see duty judge. Arrest paperwork missing complaints or what have you after the AOs leave so the desk ppl have to correct their f**k ups so the arrestees make it to court on time. Coordinating mittimuses, making sure warrant arrests go to the appropriate destinations, etc. Prisoners from districts, the area, Homan sq., the State Police, UIC PD, Stroger Hospital PD......011 desk is responsible for LITERALLY, 10x the amount of shit than any other place. I never realized that the WC / DSS is responsible for about 90% of what the desk does. If you have a question that you need answered, see the people running that desk, they are more knowledgeable than most supervisors on the job today. They juggle the impossible and are worth their weight in gold. They should be given special consideration at merit promotions (not all of them, but quite a few!). Oh yeah, the phone rings nonstop. Seriously, it sounds like a bank of telephones ringing at a telethon. NONSTOP. You couldn't pay me time & a half to work that desk. If anyone deserves out ot grade pay its those folks. For chris sakes I've seen them answering phones and doing dope inventories while they eat their lunch!!! Good luck guys, I hope the department sees that they f**ked up royally and bring back the sarges and you get paid for doing their jobs.
Good! I, for one, am tired of doing shit that sergeants and lieutenants and captains get paid to do.
Gotta love how one day you were able to (and justifiably in most districts) drop that out of grade slip and the next you couldn't because the city changed the contract language by "eliminating" the position of Desk Sergeant. Stevie Wonder can see that the TITLE may have been eliminated but not the work and responsibilities tied to that thankless position.
Any arbitrator not bought and paid for by the city will easily see that desk officers are handling the lions share of the watch operations. Watch secretaries add even more buffer between reality and what the DSS actually does.
If not D3 pay, bid desk people that are doing what a sergeant used to do deserve every bit of D2A pay and maybe even that 1/2 hour time on the books. They handle so much important shit and are responsible for a ton of things most can't even imagine.
SOLUTION: settle the grievances filed by fhe people smart enough to tell the city they werent gonna take it laying down and bring back desk sergeants. If no desk sergeants, pay those who work their asses off in that position.
As logical as it sounds for them to bring back desk sgt.'s I learned a long time ago this city and this department never like to admit they were wrong.
So if it comes about you can expect some mumbo jumbo spin on it where they'll never admit that they fucked up.
It took them a while.
somebody has to keep all those salty dogs with 5 years on the job in line--- time to put the nail polish away....
How big is the next Sgt class?
Dead wrong.
Bet da tall one in 020 cant wait to get back on her perch and be queen.again!!! even when you were ouside sgt you hang in station all tour so whats the diff?
Funny, there is a shit sgt on days way up north. She refuses to work the street and the LT lets her sit on the desk. A PO had an accident and the sgt did not go to the scene as per GO. Completely fucked up the report and the PO had to appeal a legit IOD. Medical said it was because the paper work was written poor. 1st time PO was on IOD with over 15 years on. If "desk sgt" would have got off her fat ass there would have been no problem.
Article 4 Management Rights Section I to establish,modify,combine or abolish job positions and classifications. J) to add delete or alter methods of operation,equipment or facilities and the last paragraph. Page 3 of the last contract book
Al Nagode, the toughest asskickingest copper that ever worked Neigborhood Relations in 019.........My hero.....the best inside house mouse to ever make Captain besides XO Anderson, who can type over 90 words a minute like he did back in the glory days of 014 when he was the tact secretary. He was real quick draw with the liquid paper too.
Hey upstairs guy, come see us on 1w 011 desk!
The shit doesn't stop in 011 ever! Bond, or court, we got to do something with them before the county bus shows up. And now VRI has made catching up impossible . It is constant madness now.
Nice to hear desk crews getting a little pat on the back. Thanks! We do appreciate it. Until you work the desk on a regular basis, you have no idea what actually goes on. Like working outside, some days are busy, some aren't.
Plese keep us in mind, as you wave to the citizen who later decides to come in and get the report you blew off. We can't wave them off, and most times we can 'smooth' over someone who thinks they ought to get a number on you.
Signed,
A drawer full of grievances which started 3 JAN 12.
Remember all those crabby ass desk sgts. now I know why they where like that.
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Al Nagode, the toughest asskickingest copper that ever worked Neigborhood Relations in 019.........My hero.....the best inside house mouse to ever make Captain besides XO Anderson, who can type over 90 words a minute like he did back in the glory days of 014 when he was the tact secretary. He was real quick draw with the liquid paper too.
3/01/2013 11:26:00 AM
This dude is hilarious. I just spit my beer out reading that. I knew Al No Goodie back in 24 and he was a cocky self righteous persons. He thought he was so tough and I heard a year ago he went off on a tact guy in 001 and challenged him to a fight and then got a CR number on him after. No Goodie Nagode is a baby hiding behind his rank look out. I think he got made fun of in high school alot and thats why he is the way he is.
All Areas, 2, 5, 11, 25 that handle the lion share of arrest / prisoner activity should have a white shirt on the desk. In addition, those acting up should be compensated! Lts got screwed. Hopefully the sgts and pos will win. Bring back some normalcy to a broken system.
Al Nagodie, when he used to drink at Paul and Joes he was one of the biggest dorks in the joint, never came across as a tough guy when he was a PO, but I guess he got tougher with rank. His war stories were about running out of fliers for the next CAPS meeting or the copier not working but he wore jeans that were floods and goofy gym shoes, looked like a real sad sack. He always uncomfortable when guys started telling their stories cause when he was asked what team he was on he would shrink up a say meekly, I work neighborhoods but I used to work the street......then the long pause and backs would turn and Al would look straight ahead while the real police would continue on with with tales of adventure and daring. I imagination all the years getting all those meritorious promotions made him the tough guy he portrays himself as now. A guy like that you gotta just walk out to the parking and let your fists do the talking, cause Al will never follow through with physical confrontation with a copper, it's not in his nature. But he is impressed with himself, just ask him he'll tell you so.
Signed,
A drawer full of grievances which started 3 JAN 12.
3/01/2013 03:32:00 PM.............................................................................................like thumbs up from a guy who works outside 22 yrs no break.......you just pimped slapped em
Hey 1st 2nd 3rd watch 011 desk I believe the whole 011 district is a hard working place inside and outside so be tough and don't start whining now. I'm pretty sure no one has much time to go to a nice district to suck it up!!!!
Funny, there is a shit sgt on days way up north. She refuses to work the street and the LT lets her sit on the desk. A PO had an accident and the sgt did not go to the scene as per GO. Completely fucked up the report and the PO had to appeal a legit IOD. Medical said it was because the paper work was written poor. 1st time PO was on IOD with over 15 years on. If "desk sgt" would have got off her fat ass there would have been no problem.
Not what I heard. I heard her own ex partner effed up her witness statement and thats what Med section used to deny iod.
I agree with the post on desk in 011.
I work the desk in a busy south side district and it's quite often ridiculously busy with all the multitasking that must be done.
Funny, there is a shit sgt on days way up north. She refuses to work the street and the LT lets her sit on the desk. A PO had an accident and the sgt did not go to the scene as per GO. Completely fucked up the report and the PO had to appeal a legit IOD. Medical said it was because the paper work was written poor. 1st time PO was on IOD with over 15 years on. If "desk sgt" would have got off her fat ass there would have been no problem.
Not what I heard. I heard her own ex partner effed up her witness statement and thats what Med section used to deny iod.
Wow, someone with some knowledge. How does someone who has been IOD 3 or 4 times in the last 5 years fuck up the paperwork and how does a SGT not follow GO and sign off on the fucked up paperwork. The same SGT will not sign off on an arrest.
Stevie Wonder saw this one coming.
Awwwwwww cmon....NAGODE IS NOT SO BAD!!!!!!!
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