Saturday, March 02, 2013

Ladner Sued

Perhaps some explanation will be forthcoming at some point?
  • Two Chicago Police candidates have filed separate lawsuits against Tracey Ladner, the Director of Human Resources. Carmita Harris and Robert Zieman, who both are related to Chicago Police Officers, alleged in their suits that they were discriminated against and wrongly denied a position with the police department. After successfully completing a lengthy pre-hiring screening process, Ms. Harris was informed on December 12, 2012 that she had been hired and she was ordered to report to the Training Division two days later. Ms. Harris called her supervisor at her job and informed them that she had been hired by the CPD and that she would have to resign effective December 14, 2012. She apologized to her employer for give such short notice; however this was not her fault. Ms. Harris celebrated the hiring with her family and prepared for her training. On December 14, 2012, she reported for training at 6:30 a.m. She was placed into a group and began her training. Several hours into her first day she was informed that the Human Resources made a mistake and that Ms. Harris should not have been hired. She was sent home and told that she would be contacted by someone to explain the error. No one did.

    Zieman, currently a police officer with another department, was treated with similar contempt when he was disqualified from the eligibility list allegedly failing to respond to a department issued email. Zieman argued that he never received the email. Ladner ignored the excuse and terminated his eligibility, even though Ladner made exceptions for other candidates who also claimed they had not received emails. In fact, the department admitted that the City’s email was to blame for numerous failed emails. Ladner was the decision maker in both cases.

    Dan Herbert, the attorney for the police candidates, said, “Unfortunately, these two cases do not appear to be aberrations. This seems to be the tip of the iceberg. I don’t know of another employer who treats its candidates with such disregard and disdain.”
We have had dozens of stories pop up in the comment sections for months, maybe even a year or more.  Those persons should definitely look into joining this suit.

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135 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everything she touches is a disaster.

3/02/2013 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would love to sit in on the deposition

3/02/2013 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

neighbors kid passed highly qualified on written was knocked out on medical for "To many enzimes in the blood",kid accepted that and 5 yrs later sued when he went for private tests that showed he never had the problem ever,this is still in court and even tho he is over age{think old black guys hired after suit} for fire dept he is going after job if called, hope these two people get a sum from the city for their trouble,

3/02/2013 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've had a personal dealing with Ladner. She is a smug, arrogant, racist bitch. I hope she gets her just desserts.

3/02/2013 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well qualified individuals it seems. what about all the bangers on this job. they're out there boys and girls.

3/02/2013 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dan Herbert, the attorney for the police candidates, said, “Unfortunately, these two cases do not appear to be aberrations. This seems to be the tip of the iceberg. I don’t know of another employer who treats its candidates with such disregard and disdain.”

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They'll get treated even worse after being hired. I feel sorry for the candidates that resigned other jobs based on their acceptance into the program. The city treats their employees like crap, who aren't part of the clouted clique.

3/02/2013 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Finally. It's about time.


3/02/2013 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

pack your bags spiro. your finished.

3/02/2013 01:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This literally just happened to my buddy the other day.

The entire system is broken and has been for sometime, everyone knows dozens of people that never should have been hired, and probably know a few that should have been.

As of late they have been using this email bullshit and it is nothing but headaches for these new candidates. Last minute notifications about reporting to testing and even that offer of employment at the last minute.

Fuck Tracy Ladner and all the political bullshit.

3/02/2013 01:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
You heard it here first, Desk Sergeants to make their triumphant return. Rumor has these unprodigal sons and daughters coming home within the next 2-3 periods. Seems the idiots at Fort Fellatio have finally figured out who really runs the watch. The injection of all the new sergeants will make this a no-brainer as they have plenty of chevrons to go around. But the bigger reason is that MLAS smells a loser when it comes to arbitration for the THOUSANDS of grievances filed by people that have been screwed out of acting D/S pay. Typical city and department........they always wind up paying more in the long run instead of just paying these people what they deserve.


that is not good news in 019 afternoons not that it has been good with the female merit sgt is not nice for anyone not from 023 and has a smile face when you talk to her but does not mean it. Do not trust her she is only there because she pretends to be nice. Now she will be there all the time not good for the working cop.

3/02/2013 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Landner is a case study in "civilinzation".

3/02/2013 02:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When idiot political hacks run departments, these things will happen.

Good luck to those who were harmed by the city. We all wish you well.

3/02/2013 03:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT Sorry, but the city took $30 more out of check for medical coverage this check. Nothing has changed with my benefits. Just wondering if something changed with the amount we pay for medical or if city screwed up payroll again?

3/02/2013 04:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They did this to my brother. They told him he had passed everything, and gave him a sheet of paper with a conditional offer of employment back in October. Then he noticed that people with greater lotto numbers than him were being hired. He called HR several times to make sure he hadn't missed an email or phone call and was told as recently as two weeks ago that he was still on the list waiting his turn.

Then a couple of days ago he gets an email telling him that he failed the psych test, and that he cannot appeal it. Wtf!!

3/02/2013 05:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The screening process is a scam. It happens more than you think. I know a guy who concealed his marijuana use until confronted about it on the polygraph test. When confronted at the polygraph about using marijuana he then admitted using it, where before he denied ever using it. He was then later told he was disqualified from further testing due to his not admitting using marijuana on the application and then admitting that he did indeed use it at the polygraph. This is terms for disqualification which is written all over the application process. Well the guy is clouted and miraculously it is o.k. to lie on your application and now he is in the Academy. No problem with that but lets level the playing field.

3/02/2013 05:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unbelievable how many people are told that they failed to answer all the psych questions on the written psch test, and then told they were disqualified. They lie to you and say you failed to answer all the questions which is bullshit.

3/02/2013 05:54:00 AM  
Blogger SpankDaddy said...

Why am I not surprised?

3/02/2013 06:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sue the shit out of her!

3/02/2013 06:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sad thing is that even after it is proven that Ladner is incompetent and a racist, nothing will happen to her. The Chicago way.

3/02/2013 06:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Congrate to Ladner. More work forthcoming for the City's legal profession. Shitbags like her and her nosed-ringed assistant are a real boon for lawyers here. They lick their chops for a stupid asshole boss like her to be named. Suing the police department is a finely honed craft in Chicago and it is very easy to prove preponderance of the evidence.

A stamp, a stamp, my kingdom falls for the price of a stamp...

3/02/2013 06:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great way to start a releationship with your new and current employees. No wonder there is such a distrust.

3/02/2013 06:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:

www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-chicago-red-light-scandal-0302-20130303,0,3201834.story

chicagotribune.com

3 more Redflex execs out as fallout continues for city's red light camera firm

By David Kidwell, Chicago Tribune reporter

12:45 AM CST, March 2, 2013

The president, chief financial officer and top lawyer for Chicago's red light camera company resigned this week amid an escalating corruption scandal that has cost Redflex Traffic Systems Inc. its lucrative, decadelong relationship with the city.

The resignations came as Redflex said it was winding down a company-funded probe into allegations of an improper relationship between the company and the former city transportation manager who oversaw its contract until 2011, a relationship first disclosed by the Tribune in October. A longtime friend of that city manager was hired by Redflex for a high-paid consulting deal.

The company recently acknowledged it improperly paid for thousands of dollars in trips for the former city official, the latest in a series of controversial revelations that have shaken Redflex from its Phoenix headquarters to Australia, the home of parent company Redflex Holdings Ltd.

Mayor Rahm Emanuel's administration banned the company from competing for the upcoming speed camera contract and went further last month by announcing that Redflex would lose its red light contract when it expires in June. The Chicago program, with more than 380 cameras, has been the company's largest in North America and is worth about 13 percent of worldwide revenue for Redflex Holdings. Since 2003 it has generated about $100 million for Redflex and more than $300 million in ticket revenue for the city.
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Now some lawyer(s) need to file a class action lawsuit on behalf of anyone who got stung paying one of those red light tickets in the past several years. I see a settlement coming for refunds of fines paid, damages and legal costs.

You gotta love it. Hey, I got a couple of those $100 red light tickets myself! Hmmmm...

3/02/2013 06:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm going through the appeal process now due to a botched BI which wasn't conducted by CPD. I also know people who passed the written test then personally skipped the power test due no longer wanting the job. These same people were then personally sent a letter from HR basically giving them a second chance when they were a no call no show. I also know people who are hired with current arrest on their record from 2-3 years ago!

3/02/2013 07:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seek punitive damages against her for her obvious personal bias against certain candidates and favoritism for others.

3/02/2013 07:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There will be an many lawsuits brought against Tracy Ladner(political clout hack)because of her racism and incompetency.Rahm will hang on to her with an Kung Fu Death Grip,because of political favors..

3/02/2013 07:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is going to be the "Tip of the iceburg" sendoff for Ladner. Did Rahm-n-noodle hire her? Let's hope not or he will keep her, just to look good.

3/02/2013 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous "Spam Mail Tracy" said...

Personnel at the academy states that they were asked by the city if they could put 2000 recruits through the academy this year if possible.
They stated that would be next to impossible, perhaps 1000people they could handle.

The problem is the HIRING LIST IS DONE.

Ladner had the great idea of notifying everyone to take the 2nd part of the test/POWER test by email.
As most know now, those emails went into the JUNK / SPAM folders of possible new hires.
Ladner told Emanuel that the city must give a new test.

EMANUEL WAS PISSED!!

He stated to go back and re-notify everyone of the POWER test by mail.
The city did not budget a new police exam for this year.

This incompetent goof Ladner has to go NOW!!!

3/02/2013 07:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our XO in 011, RB, has completely lost it. Tonight as midnight cars were coming on, the dispatcher tried to give 1133R a job. 1133R replied that they were waiting for a car. (We literally don't have enough cars for midnights since all are being used by 3rd watch and we are down so many cars without replacements). 1100x then got on the air and ordered that 1133R walk from the station to their call, and that he was going to meet them there. This is one day after 1100x came into the 3rd watch roll early roll call and berated all of the officers for not writing enough contact cards. He told the cars they were pathetic and embarassing. He then said that everyone better shape up or we would lose our Commander. Before storming out, he said that he was going to find out who was attempting to improve on contact cards and who wasn't and would deal with the situation accordingly. Aressts don't mean shit anymore. Neither do contact cards if they are off your beat.
011 used to be a great place to work. Things have now gotten so out of control, it's comical.

3/02/2013 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The dumbing down of our society has grown

3/02/2013 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If these allegations are true, then the Chicago Police Department and the City of Chicago should be roundly ashamed of themselves for treating people in such a poor manner. Those who are in charge of the department responsible for this treatment should be forced to resign. Ladner reflects poorly on the department. Is this just another example of patronage hiring? These stories have been circulating for some time. No one should mess with the lives and fortunes of others so routinely. I hope they get a huge settlement and a job with the department and i hope those responsible for such poor managing hit the unemployment lines.

3/02/2013 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm has McPilgrim and his minnions under his thumb just like the new congressman from 2nd dist. it is all about being comprimised and all these people that play with peoples careers will some day have to answer for it.

3/02/2013 08:35:00 AM  
Blogger Jose Magana said...

I've been waiting to hear if I've been accepted or denied for over four months now. I haven't heard anything from anyone at CPD. How can I find out?

3/02/2013 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Same happened to my neighbor, marine vet of Afganistan, no email ever received. he was disqualifed too for not responding.

3/02/2013 08:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im glad somebody is finally stepping up to the evil Ms. Ladner, My son failed the Pysch test, after blasting him thru the entire process in hopes of starting the academy on 14 Dec, they tell him via E-Mail in January of the bad news, but wait it gets better, I know of 6 other Police Officers who have kids that have also FLUNKED the Pysch, Just last night I found out another coppers kid has flunked the Pysch and he has been talking with Attorney Tom Plienes, the FOP lawyer regarding this crap, but wait, it gets better, a strong rumor is that they aRE STARTING PEOPLE IN THE ACADEMY THAT do not HAVE THIER RESULTS FROM THE pschy TEST BACK YET. Seems like a pattern may be developing with Tracey Ladner and a bad dislike of coppersxon her part ! Please SCC can you begin a posting so we can maybe get a little gathering of more info together without the department chopping our nuts off !!, I know my kid and he is not unfit for this job, What is really crazy is that they waste the cities money and all of these kids time and cut them at the very end, at least have an appeal process in place where they can be tested again, the test they are using is the MPPI test which is highly critisized.

3/02/2013 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the past, I've found a lot of blog comments overly exaggerated, with the sole exception of the ones regarding Tracy Ladner. I'm shocked that she still has her position. Michelle Obama might be or may have been a friend, but I guarantee she wouldn't spend an ounce of energy trying to save her. There are so many places to stick political hacks, but don't put them where they can actually do damage.

3/02/2013 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Old 13th District Copper said...

The plaintiffs will win, the city will pay out millions and what will happen to Ladner? She'll get promoted of course. The Chicago way!!!

3/02/2013 08:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's just training for the way they will be treated the rest of their carrers by the city and CPD brass.

3/02/2013 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
This literally just happened to my buddy the other day.

The entire system is broken and has been for sometime, everyone knows dozens of people that never should have been hired, and probably know a few that should have been.

As of late they have been using this email bullshit and it is nothing but headaches for these new candidates. Last minute notifications about reporting to testing and even that offer of employment at the last minute.

Fuck Tracy Ladner and all the political bullshit.

3/02/2013 01:48:00 AM


Nothing new. I am retired and know plenty who should not have been hired from back in the day. Some went to prison. Some didn't. Some who blew their way into nice jobs out of the academy. One guy went straight to asset forfeiture off probation. never worked a beat car. Made commander. Usual story.

3/02/2013 09:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A few years back a neighbor quit the Water Dept because he had been hired on the FD. CFD called day before he was to start and said sorry too many whites maybe next time. Kicker, next time he would be past the age to be hired. Luckily he got his old job back.

3/02/2013 09:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This city is so fucked up! What a bunch of assholes! You hire a candidate, give her two days notice to report to the academy and then on day one you tell her "we made a mistake". Can you imagine if they did this to you? Or your child? I would be fucking livid beyond belief.

3/02/2013 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, please post, If you know of any coppers who have family members, Sons, Daughters escpecially that have been PSCHY out of the police testing contact Attorneys Dan Herbert or Tom Plienes, they may be interested in knowing what is going on

3/02/2013 09:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I don’t know of another employer who treats its candidates with such disregard and disdain.”

Once hired they will be treated with even more disregard and disdain. Unless, of course, they are clouted.

Get your settlement and get as far away from this shit hole as possible.

3/02/2013 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't it true that the all candidates that had problems like this were white? It is well documented that Ms. Ladner nas a problem with people of non-color.

Perhaps she also feels she must right past injustices. Post child for civilianization of the Department.

3/02/2013 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have heard, also, from a few veterans, hat when they take the physc test they are veing turned away. One of them is a friend and is a very decent, good man with his head on straight. What is the dept doing?

3/02/2013 09:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, this is not an isolated incident with Ladner. The HR under Ladner, sadly used a email system to notify new candidates about the power tests and hiring dates. The problem exists within the email address the CPD is using. Most email systems; such as g-mail, yahoo and MSN will send email that end with .org to the spam email folder. If candidates did not check their spam email they missed the important email notification for a test. The email problem started in August, 2012 and was well known by HR, the academy and 35th street but the problem was ignored. I would bet over 100 candidates missed notifications because of the email problem. Why did Ladner stop using the U.S. post office at least for the first notification so candidates know they are close to being hired? Amazing. That explains why 60 recruits from a list of 70 would appear on the first day of the academy.
Next the issue of hiring candidates that did not pass various parts the background check. One recruit received his notice to report to the academy as a CPD recruit. He reported at 6AM but was not on the hiring list. He lived in Kansas City and drove to the academy for his new job. HR said there was a mistake that he was not on the hiring list. This is not an isolated incident with Ladner. Several recruits reported to the academy after they quit their current job and being told there was a mistake and “bye bye”.
The third issue is the benefits for current recruits. What a complete mess! Recruits do not have insurance after 2,3 even 4 months in the academy. I think Dan Herbert’s law suit will finally make public the HR disaster under Tracy Ladner.

3/02/2013 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope each candidate gets a million dollar settlement from this stupid city! The city is messing with peoples lives and have employees in positions of power that are incompetent and don't give a shit! Sue the idiots! Da Pelon

3/02/2013 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tracy Ladner is a piece of connected racist shit. I know I worked for the psycho and her twisted management practice. She goes out of her way to screw with people and enjoys demeaning everyone to feel empowered. The reason that the kids never got their e-mails is because DHR sent an excel spreadsheet to Ladner with all the candidate names and email addresses, then Ladner sent the list to Virginia G who needed to send out the email notifications but they could not find anyone in HR that knew how to set up a mass mailing attaching the acceptances letter so the candidate contact sheets had to be split up and given to staff to send notification one by one. Employees were typing out the entire list by hand one by one and sending the attached notification to each candidate. the HR employees also sent these email address from their work email accounts and not the HR account that should have been set up for this process. If i were an attorney i would request all the mail from the department for the employment staff for those days to see how many failed notifications were sent to the candidates. The way in which the HR staff sent out the mailing was destined to come back and bite Ladner in the ass because the mail notifications were sent from individual email accounts and any addresses that were kicked back would have to be resolved by the employee sending the notification. Kathy D and a few other employment section employees were not the proper employment staff to handle this task. Kathy D works for tuition reimbursement for example. The other staff that was helping out prob also should not have been helping out. I just shook my head as they asked me if I could help and said sorry nope don't know nothing about E-mail I smelled a huge lawsuit because the way in which the notification were going out. And This is only one example of Ladner's incompetence. I knew that candidates were going to get screwed. This was not the staffs fault or the manager of employments fault it was ladner's fault for dumping on Virginia the last minute and telling her to deal with it. I hope that the candidates not only sue Ladner the city finally fires this racist bitch. She is a joke and doesn't have a fucking clue how to manage or work with people and she most certainly should not be in management. Sorry for the typos..

3/02/2013 09:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take the money and run. Hope they get a nice check and use it to move out of this corrupted shithole. Fuck this city and fuck this department- neither care about it's policemen and this upcoming contract negotiation will definitely reflect that. That whole academy is a joke anyway- they couldn't train mice to eat cheese.

3/02/2013 10:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another unprofessional act from an outside appointee, she should be fired and should be held legally accountable for her actions.
Who's her " clout " anyway??
Another Jesse stooge?

3/02/2013 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I, too, have dealt with that woman personally over proving that I graduated College. I graduated in 1994 and my diploma has been on file there since then. Now, almost 20 yrs later I get a notification that I have to "re-certify" that I have a college education. I brought in my transcripts and copy of my diploma and 2 months later had to do it all over again. After the 3rd time I went there and asked to speak to a supervisor. To my surprise, Ladner was hiding on the other side of the partition and came around shouting to me that "you people have no right to come into my office and cause trouble!" She's an arrogant, racist bitch. Ask any of the former now retired Directors of Personnel and they will tell you first-hand how bad that ignorant bitch has screwed that office.

3/02/2013 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good for you. Keep voting Democratic.

3/02/2013 10:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Word is this is a bigger mess than anyone knows, and Rahm is furious. Look for huge changes at Personnel and Acad soon and a Lt from 006(VR) to made Cmdr of Acad to straighten it out.

3/02/2013 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like Chalkie did have a full Second period furlough. Glad your back and full of piss and vinegar.
I think he did that so he can go Buckwild on Baby furlo.
Me Too

3/02/2013 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

OT Sorry, but the city took $30 more out of check for medical coverage this check. Nothing has changed with my benefits. Just wondering if something changed with the amount we pay for medical or if city screwed up payroll again?

3/02/2013 04:20:00 AM





How the heck is Rahm going to pay for Mrs D's park.

3/02/2013 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ladner might be an ignorant, racist, incompetant bitch-but at least she has Captain Lynette Helm assigned to HR to bring some balance. She is nice, smart and treats everyone equally and never had a merit promotion. Hahahaahahahahahaha

3/02/2013 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so long tracy. her clout can't save her from these lawsuits. but then again i heard the cynthia brim judge was reinstated recently even though she was diagnosed crazy. crook county shows its true colors yet again. what an absolute disgusting and shameful gov't to be associated with.

3/02/2013 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone have the phone number for this attorney Dan Herbert. Kid down the block has passed all the tests, interviewsabd back ground. He is now being called back to retake the final POWER test, this will his 3rd final POWER test without being hired. Others on the list have been hired that have a higher number them him, only took the final POWER test one time. Kid is realy getting discouraged. To bad because he is from a police family and none of us have an answer for the treatment he is getting from HR

3/02/2013 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I've had a personal dealing with Ladner. She is a smug, arrogant, racist bitch. I hope she gets her just desserts.

3/02/2013 12:36:00 AM
Office look at her she has eaten all the desserts, dumb as a box of rocks and useless!

3/02/2013 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a big fan of Herbert as he is nowhere near as smart as HE thinks he is, but I wish him the best in this case and hope he smashes the scam that is Tracy Laddner wide open!

3/02/2013 12:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How in the Hell has Ladner lasted this long?
There's tons of evidence of her incompetence and militant racism. WTF?

3/02/2013 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I went through the process, was told to report for my Poly, just to be told I was "Double booked with someone else" I was told I passed every phase up to the poly, just to be told I failed the Pysch two weeks later. Mind you, I was already told I passed it, and received an email and call. I call HR, and they told me to write Ladner a certified letter with my situation, which I did, but never received any response. I called HR again, and was told "Ladner would never speak to someone like myself, I should just test again" I couldn't believe the city treated me this way, so I just never followed up. I hope people like this get what they deserve! Regardless of your status, you always treat people with RESPECT, period!

3/02/2013 02:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tracey Ladner has made no bones about the fact that she wanted to try to find a way to eliminate police family and military first. She feels that by hiring police family you just perpetuate the "code of silence" for another generation. How about thinking that you are hiring generations of experience.

3/02/2013 03:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dan Herbert, the attorney for the police candidates, said, “Unfortunately, these two cases do not appear to be aberrations. This seems to be the tip of the iceberg. I don’t know of another employer who treats its candidates with such disregard and disdain.”

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They'll get treated even worse after being hired. I feel sorry for the candidates that resigned other jobs based on their acceptance into the program. The city treats their employees like crap, who aren't part of the clouted clique.
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I agree. If they treat the actual Police like dirt would it be such a stretch to believe that they would treat Police recruits even worse?

3/02/2013 03:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My son got out if the Marine Corp with a General Discharge which is all they ask for. Then Queen Tracy demanded that he sign a paper to release his records. When they looked over them he was excluded for having write ups on file (ie uniform infraction, etc). Why should they be looking into his marine Corp file if he has the General Discharge like they asked for?
If they ask for a Bachelors degree do they contact the school to see if you were ever late for class?

3/02/2013 03:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Herbert should request the emails between Ladner, Don O'Niel and the Sup. even worse then you think. Of course the emails to the Sup are sent to Miniotis.

3/02/2013 04:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

clout would of prevented this,i hope they win screw this department and city!

3/02/2013 04:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two comments; 1. Maybe Ladner can get some depostion advice from Debbie Kirby, Kirby screwed up badly and nothing happened to her.

2. To the poster about the 019 Desk Sgt. Do you realise how pathetic you sound, "Na Na Na the desk sgt. is only pretending to be nice, I'm telling!" And the city says you are a police officer? Softballs like you are why I retired, you sound like a typical Area 3 wooosie. I'm glad I retired!

3/02/2013 04:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
well qualified individuals it seems. what about all the bangers on this job. they're out there boys and girls.

3/02/2013 12:42:00 AM

Like in the lockups? Who know every other arrestee you bring in?

3/02/2013 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you really have to take a polygraph to get on now?

That would have knocked out about 80% of the people hired before 1990!

3/02/2013 05:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm appealing my results with the board. Does anyone have advice on the process? What to say not say? What are the odds of winning? Also, who's a good lawyer to hire with a background with CPD? Any help is appreciated.

3/02/2013 06:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, my lotto number was in the mid 3000's. Searching through my email I got one notification back in August 2012. I was expecting this through the Postal Mail.

Great. I'm fortunate enough to have gainful employment right now. I hope someone who needs the job though didn't get missed.

3/02/2013 06:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is an evil vindictive person with psychiatric problems. Truley.

3/02/2013 07:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lodding at the Academy has done nothing wrong in terms of the hiring. He has nothing to do with it. He has asked, begged Ladner to get her shit together to no avail. All he can do is train what they send when they send.

3/02/2013 07:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Many people won't pass the Psy portion of the/a LE texting process. It's there for that reason. Take the Psy with a drfferent department and see if you fail that one. If not you may have a case.

3/02/2013 07:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I went through the process, was told to report for my Poly, just to be told I was "Double booked with someone else" I was told I passed every phase up to the poly, just to be told I failed the Pysch two weeks later. Mind you, I was already told I passed it, and received an email and call. I call HR, and they told me to write Ladner a certified letter with my situation, which I did, but never received any response. I called HR again, and was told "Ladner would never speak to someone like myself, I should just test again" I couldn't believe the city treated me this way, so I just never followed up. I hope people like this get what they deserve! Regardless of your status, you always treat people with RESPECT, period!
3/02/2013 02:10:00 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Well, call Atty. Dan Herbert. See if he won't include you as well as anyone else that wants to sue Ladner and the city for Ladner's hated of police and military personnel.
If enough of you that read this blog, that were excluded for whatever bs reason were to contact Atty. Herbert, perhaps Herbert would consider a class action suit.
I would be very happy to see that happen.

3/02/2013 07:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
This is going to be the "Tip of the iceburg" sendoff for Ladner. Did Rahm-n-noodle hire her? Let's hope not or he will keep her, just to look good.

3/02/2013 07:23:00 AM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ladner is a Daley appointee.
She worked at Corp Counsel previously.

3/02/2013 07:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now some lawyer(s) need to file a class action lawsuit on behalf of anyone who got stung paying one of those red light tickets in the past several years. I see a settlement coming for refunds of fines paid, damages and legal costs.

You gotta love it. Hey, I got a couple of those $100 red light tickets myself! Hmmmm...

What does an executive having an improper relationship have to do with you getting a refund for running a red light? So if I get a voting machine contract by say bribery and after the election this is discovered, the results of the election are overturned

3/02/2013 07:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I've had a personal dealing with Ladner. She is a smug, arrogant, racist bitch. I hope she gets her just desserts.

3/02/2013 12:36:00 AM
Office look at her she has eaten all the desserts, dumb as a box of rocks and useless!

3/02/2013 12:04:00 PM


It is good for us int he long run she is as racist and arrogant and dumb as she is. That makes her an easier target for lawsuits. She is much more likely to prove easy pickings for a good attorney and cost the city $$$. Good for those who get damages, bad for us in that we have to pay the taxes and be part of another embarassing adventure.

And remember all of you who it was that put her in place:

RICHARD M. DALEY.

The gift that keeps on giving. Like cancer or syphillis or bubonic plague the fucking evil that is Richard M Daley keeps on destroying the City a couple of years after he has gone.

3/02/2013 07:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anyone have the phone number for this attorney Dan Herbert. Kid down the block has passed all the tests, interviewsabd back ground. He is now being called back to retake the final POWER test, this will his 3rd final POWER test without being hired. Others on the list have been hired that have a higher number them him, only took the final POWER test one time. Kid is realy getting discouraged. To bad because he is from a police family and none of us have an answer for the treatment he is getting from HR

3/02/2013 11:24:00 AM


The woman Ladner is a racist pig bitch.


Here is what you are looking for:

Dan Herbert & Associates
206 S. Jefferson
Suite 100
Chicago, Illinois 60661
Phone: 312-655-7660
Fax: 312-655-7661

3/02/2013 07:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Tracey Ladner has made no bones about the fact that she wanted to try to find a way to eliminate police family and military first. She feels that by hiring police family you just perpetuate the "code of silence" for another generation. How about thinking that you are hiring generations of experience."

blah, blah, blah....

police families have been running things for much too long. I'm tired of hearing the same last names, kids of clouted brass, that make rank right away, and keep the bullshit "entitlement" system going. Being from a police family does not automatically make you a good cop, it just ensures the "systematic institutional, perpetual" nepotism within the police department. Name one child of a boss that had the same balls and know how. Name one!

3/02/2013 08:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Same happened to my neighbor, marine vet of Afganistan, no email ever received. he was disqualifed too for not responding."

Get high speed internet and turn off the spam dork!

Another thing....all this talk about Ladner and what should happen because this person or that person didn't make it or the opening of her being sued, yeah right get the fuck outta her, two phrases...."conditional offer of employment" self-explanatory and "at-will employee" meaning until you've completed probation, and have union protection, you have no protection and no legs to stand on...move on, nothin here!

3/02/2013 08:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

80 Sgts, 40 Lts in April

3/02/2013 08:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Word is this is a bigger mess than anyone knows, and Rahm is furious. Look for huge changes at Personnel and Acad soon and a Lt from 006(VR) to made Cmdr of Acad to straighten it out.

3/02/2013 10:46:00 AM

Hoky crap!! We would really be in trouble then.
He is a tool.....and not the kind of tool that fixes things.

3/02/2013 08:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From the FOP Website:
Limited Duty Arbitration Decision
February 22, 2013


The Lodge received the arbitrator’s decision in the Limited Duty case today. Our grievance was granted in part and denied in part. The arbitrator affirmed that officers working limited duty need to be able to effectuate the arrest of an active resister, affirming that new standard.

However, the arbitrator did change the time cap for non-IOD limited duty officers. Instead of one year, all non-IOD limited duty officers are now given two (2) years of limited duty eligibility. The two years is retroactive beginning 01 January 2012.

There are many questions regarding this decision and the Lodge wants to address everyone’s concerns. We will have a meeting to address these concerns on March 7, 2013 at the FOP Hall at 1300 hrs.

Go to the FOP website for additional info or to the meeting on 07 March 13.

3/02/2013 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another thing....all this talk about Ladner and what should happen because this person or that person didn't make it or the opening of her being sued, yeah right get the fuck outta her, two phrases...."conditional offer of employment" self-explanatory and "at-will employee" meaning until you've completed probation, and have union protection, you have no protection and no legs to stand on...move on, nothin here!

3/02/2013 08:32:00 PM


nice that tracy gave you a few minutes to post.

now, back to that ass nuzzling.....

3/02/2013 09:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

police families have been running things for much too long. I'm tired of hearing the same last names, kids of clouted brass, that make rank right away, and keep the bullshit "entitlement" system going. Being from a police family does not automatically make you a good cop, it just ensures the "systematic institutional, perpetual" nepotism within the police department. Name one child of a boss that had the same balls and know how. Name one!

3/02/2013 08:21:00 PM



so, tracy lets you come up for a breath, and this is what you spend your break time doing?

3/02/2013 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another thing....all this talk about Ladner and what should happen because this person or that person didn't make it or the opening of her being sued, yeah right get the fuck outta her, two phrases...."conditional offer of employment" self-explanatory and "at-will employee" meaning until you've completed probation, and have union protection, you have no protection and no legs to stand on...move on, nothin here!

3/02/2013 08:32:00 PM

Do you not recall the CFD lawsuit?

3/02/2013 09:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF! But they'll give the job to some goof who suffers from Attention Deficit Disorder and give him extra time to complete his tests in the academy.

3/02/2013 09:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is at least 6 recruits with CB#'s that HR let into the academy.

3/02/2013 09:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 0821 Paul Miller is one, look him up and take him to task.

3/02/2013 09:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Tracey Ladner has made no bones about the fact that she wanted to try to find a way to eliminate police family and military first. She feels that by hiring police family you just perpetuate the "code of silence" for another generation. How about thinking that you are hiring generations of experience."

blah, blah, blah....

police families have been running things for much too long. I'm tired of hearing the same last names, kids of clouted brass, that make rank right away, and keep the bullshit "entitlement" system going. Being from a police family does not automatically make you a good cop, it just ensures the "systematic institutional, perpetual" nepotism within the police department. Name one child of a boss that had the same balls and know how. Name one!

3/02/2013 08:21:00 PM

Thanks for coming Tracey.

3/02/2013 09:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, coppers and firemen kids who grew up in the city do not offer enough diversity for the depts
that they are trying to show off to the world! They want a police and fire depts that reflect a world wide culture. Copper and firemen kids, both black and white are a dime a dozen. They look for intriguing backgrounds and growing up beyond Chicago and the nearby suburbs. They are trying to sell Chicago to the world, white Irish kids from a catholic high school and black kids from a quality public or private school don't mean a damn thing to the city. Go out to Dupage County or Kane county and hire a kid who doesn't give a damn about the city and questions every order given to him!

3/02/2013 09:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where are the great Chicago news reporters? Sneed, Kass, Brown, Kadner,Steinberg? BGA Hello?

3/02/2013 09:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another thing....all this talk about Ladner and what should happen because this person or that person didn't make it or the opening of her being sued, yeah right get the fuck outta her, two phrases...."conditional offer of employment" self-explanatory and "at-will employee" meaning until you've completed probation, and have union protection, you have no protection and no legs to stand on...move on, nothin here!


3/02/2013 08:32:00 PM

Shut the fuck up, Tracy, and stay off of our blog. Go troll on the Black Panthers blog

3/02/2013 10:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What does an executive having an improper relationship have to do with you getting a refund for running a red light? So if I get a voting machine contract by say bribery and after the election this is discovered, the results of the election are overturned

3/02/2013 07:39:00 PM

Emanuel spokeswoman Sarah Hamilton said... “The City is also engaging an independent firm immediately to audit the Redflex contract for ALL past and ongoing activities to ensure Chicago taxpayers are not cheated in any way. If there are ANY findings of illegal conduct or improprieties that show Chicago taxpayers were defrauded, the City will seek penalties to the fullest extent of the law."

The city easily could have limited their response to claim they were only investigating the awarding of the contract and that the system is being implemented fairly. Instead they issued a blanket statement casting suspicion on the integrity of the entire program. HMMMM.. there have been no further clarifications of this statement. Only a fool would pay a red light ticket without a hearing at this point. Citing the citys own lack of faith in the integrity of the camera system.

3/02/2013 10:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I am a copper and my son failed the Psych test, but on Monday I am going to begin with calling Dan Herbert, I am going to stir up the pot big time, Tracey Ladner cannot keep pulling her Bullshit!!, I sure wish that Commander Brad Woods was still in charge of Human Resources, he knew how to handle things, Ladner has the poor people that work for her in total fear, they won't even answer a question for another copper, I would ththis department would want people from police families to apply for the job, but this RACIST BITCH, and apparently proud of it ,is doing her best to ruin the lives of young kids by pschying them out, this is BULLSHIT!, I say have an appeal process and retest them at the applicants cost, since they have so mnuch time and money already invested in them. The kicker is that they tell you that you can take the test again when offered!

3/02/2013 10:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Now some lawyer(s) need to file a class action lawsuit on behalf of anyone who got stung paying one of those red light tickets in the past several years. I see a settlement coming for refunds of fines paid, damages and legal costs.

You gotta love it. Hey, I got a couple of those $100 red light tickets myself! Hmmmm...

What does an executive having an improper relationship have to do with you getting a refund for running a red light? So if I get a voting machine contract by say bribery and after the election this is discovered, the results of the election are overturned

3/02/2013 07:39:00 PM


If the whole program was riddled with corruption how can the city prove the issuance of tickets was not also done in a crooked manner, fair to all involved? I read many accounts of the revenue involved. A good attorney can prove in court that it was not about safety but rather all about money.

Get these executives to testify on that lawsuit and you will likely hear many people pleading the fifth amendment not wanting to incriminate themselves.

Not too much of a stretch to make the whole thing stink like a kettle of rotten fish in court. Oh yeah, we paid bribes and all that and that part was corrupt to the core but not this other part involving hundreds of millions of dollars of fines. Oh yeah, a good lawyer can make that connection. And then... damages, refunds to members of the class action.

3/02/2013 10:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another thing....all this talk about Ladner and what should happen because this person or that person didn't make it or the opening of her being sued, yeah right get the fuck outta her, two phrases...."conditional offer of employment" self-explanatory and "at-will employee" meaning until you've completed probation, and have union protection, you have no protection and no legs to stand on...move on, nothin here!

3/02/2013 08:32:00 PM

Now Tracey, calm down....save it for court.

3/03/2013 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait til the shit hits the fan on tuition reimbursement. She had the General Order re-written in direct violation of the contract with regards to the graduate program. This dumb bitch is gonna get sued again and lose. Why is someone who blatantly hates the police in charge og Human Resources? And when is City Hall gonna wake up and fire this ignorant, unqualified dumbass?

3/03/2013 01:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is Ladner allowed to continue working in this position, lawsuit after lawsuit. Wasn't there another problem , resulting in lawsuits? How difficult can this be? Common sense please

3/03/2013 01:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She is a joke! She tried to pull the same thing with my college transcripts and told me I was DQed. I fought it and was told I was okay after. Two weeks later DQ letter comes in the mail for a different reason. Glad I never left my department.

3/03/2013 02:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was 6 months too young to take the women's test in 72. Didn't lie about my age, as others did back then. Took the test in 75 but was unqualified. You would not believe the people I knew who got hired that were "CONDITIONALLY QUALIFIED" Still can't figure that one out except: Funny everybody from my Irish Parish, at least 5 from my 8th grade class made it, but I was too dumb to drop. Black females also covered 2 quotas they're females and black, as far as I heard. The hearing was a joke of why I wasn't hired. Never got involved in lawsuit which I later heard some did. Got hired in 85 from 81 test. I waited 13 years to get on this job that I wanted since I was 16 years old. I have always wanted to hang that disqualification notice next to all my awards. This city is so sick it makes me want to vomit. I am retired now after a 25 year career. God Bless You All!

3/03/2013 02:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I'm going through the appeal process now due to a botched BI which wasn't conducted by CPD. I also know people who passed the written test then personally skipped the power test due no longer wanting the job. These same people were then personally sent a letter from HR basically giving them a second chance when they were a no call no show. I also know people who are hired with current arrest on their record from 2-3 years ago"

I hope I never ride in a car with you. You're not even on the job and you're jamming people up. I bet if given the opportunity you would rat someone out to get on this job. Too much college. Worry about yourself!!

3/03/2013 06:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don’t know of another employer who treats its candidates with such disregard and disdain.”

Yeah? Wait till you actually work for them

3/03/2013 09:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Lodding at the Academy has done nothing wrong in terms of the hiring. He has nothing to do with it. He has asked, begged Ladner to get her shit together to no avail. All he can do is train what they send when they send.

3/02/2013 07:14:00 PM

It is true that Lodding has nothing to do with the hiring process. But Lodding is terrified to talk to any exempt.Lodding will not stand up or even question Tracy Ladner over all of the problems surrounding recruit hiring and spending. Problems over new recruits, benefits, insurance and injury claims. It seems with every problem no matter how small, will become a major problem with Ladner and Lodding is not up to the challenge of working with Ladner. Ladner calls and Lodding trembles. This is so sad how the academy has changed under the current leadership.

3/03/2013 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Her boss on paper is an ex-CPD sworn member by the name of civilian ADS Marvin Shear, but he is probably too busy with his income tax business to notice her nonesense.

3/03/2013 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Two comments; 1. Maybe Ladner can get some depostion advice from Debbie Kirby, Kirby screwed up badly and nothing happened to her.

2. To the poster about the 019 Desk Sgt. Do you realise how pathetic you sound, "Na Na Na the desk sgt. is only pretending to be nice, I'm telling!" And the city says you are a police officer? Softballs like you are why I retired, you sound like a typical Area 3 wooosie. I'm glad I retired!

3/02/2013 04:57:00 PM


I'm glad you retired too.

Officer Woosie

3/03/2013 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hahahaha Commander Bradford Woods.... Right, that was funny. Lets talk about him, you know the guy who ended all the LOA's for the non-clouted, yet the clouted are still on LOA's to this day. He dressed like a pimp from the west side and had the golden spoon up his ass, due to his clouted wife who had a no show job at CCSO. Ask the former News Affairs Director from Amnapolis about how Bradford runs things; Woods was a douche. The CO who knew what he was doing was Commander Bill Powers, he was a prince and will missed by all. Hope Landers gets hers and ends up being treated the way she has treated so many decent folks.

3/03/2013 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any evidence of Ladner taking care of clouted people who missed a tuition reimbursement deadline? I only missed one and she denied my to-from.

3/03/2013 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Where are the great Chicago news reporters? Sneed, Kass, Brown, Kadner,Steinberg? BGA Hello?

3/02/2013 09:59:00 PM

Steinberg's giving his wife a crack in the kisser for not bringing his drink on time. Sneed has her head stuck up Rahm's ass, and the BGA is busy re-reading the Communist Manifesto.

3/03/2013 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Herbert would consider a class action suit.
I would be very happy to see that happen.

3/02/2013 07:36:00 PM

I am not happy to see it. I am glad these kids will get their jobs and be made whole. I am furious that we will be paying millions of dollars for Ladner's stupidity AGAIN.

We have already paid millions in settlements and court fees for her previous nonsense. Mayor emmanuel has chosen to keep her on despite proving time and again that she is dangerously incompetent.

3/03/2013 11:24:00 AM  
Blogger anonymous said...

You have no Idea how happy I am for the truth to finally come out! The same thing happened to me! Bridget Messina is no better either! I have contacted Dan Herbert and I am waiting for a call back. Karma is a BITCH!

3/03/2013 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who knows of a coppers kid, relative of the police, who have been told that they have failed the PSCHY TEST part of the process to become aChicago Police Officer should contact Attorney Dan Herbert @ 312-655-7660, he is a former Police Officer and STates Attorney who has been retained by 2 candidates who were wronged by Tracey Ladner, If you have no background on her, it is pretty widely known that she beats to her own drum, makes her own rules etc.

3/03/2013 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

there is at least 6 recruits in the academy with cb#s......

this is nothing new, nothing even remotely recent, you can get hired with a few youthful indiscretions as long as you don't have a felony or something pretty serious in the eyes of the department.

not saying I agree, just the way it is

3/03/2013 01:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The 75 police test was the first non scored/non ranked test. There were only 3 passing groups, Well Qualified, Qualified, and Conditionally Qualified. I was prep school grad, army vet, and two years into a degree program at Loyola..I aced the written tests and was scored Conditionally Qualified..I was stunned..even tried to find out my actual scores from personnel to no avail. Finally hired in 1980 under Jane Byrne. While in academy a Lt told us the last few Cond Qual classes had the highest academy grade averages in years. He asked us about city employee relatives...almost all had family working for city. He said the city was being pressured to hire OUTSIDE of city worker families and thats why we were all put in conditionally qualified status. Nothing new here folks..an applicant penalized for the job his father or brother has. Same bullshit, different century

3/03/2013 01:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the whole program was riddled with corruption how can the city prove the issuance of tickets was not also done in a crooked manner, fair to all involved? I read many accounts of the revenue involved. A good attorney can prove in court that it was not about safety but rather all about money.

One way would be to show the video that comes with every red light ticket. Shows your car and where it is when the light turns red, but you would know that seeing that you received a few tickets. Not sure it matters if its about safety or money if you run the red light that the video and still will show

3/03/2013 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Why is Ladner allowed to continue working in this position, lawsuit after lawsuit. Wasn't there another problem , resulting in lawsuits? How difficult can this be? Common sense please

3/03/2013 01:40:00 AM

She's Michelle's buddy. Get it now?

3/03/2013 01:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I am a copper and my son failed the Psych test, but on Monday I am going to begin with calling Dan Herbert, I am going to stir up the pot big time, Tracey Ladner cannot keep pulling her Bullshit!!, I sure wish that Commander Brad Woods was still in charge of Human Resources, he knew how to handle things, Ladner has the poor people that work for her in total fear, they won't even answer a question for another copper, I would ththis department would want people from police families to apply for the job, but this RACIST BITCH, and apparently proud of it ,is doing her best to ruin the lives of young kids by pschying them out, this is BULLSHIT!, I say have an appeal process and retest them at the applicants cost, since they have so mnuch time and money already invested in them. The kicker is that they tell you that you can take the test again when offered!

You are right. It is a shame what she is doing to these kids. One thing I'm curious about, within the last 10 years when Brad Woods was the commander the city outsourced the psych tests to an outfit in California and the city had no imput or say so in the written part of the psych test.
Whats really surprising is that it is well known what she is doing, yet noone wants to correct the situation starting with the mayor

3/03/2013 01:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Ladner might be an ignorant, racist, incompetant bitch-but at least she has Captain Lynette Helm assigned to HR to bring some balance. She is nice, smart and treats everyone equally and never had a merit promotion. Hahahaahahahahahaha

3/02/2013 11:12:00 AM

Dumb and dumber.

3/03/2013 01:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Emanuel spokeswoman Sarah Hamilton said... “The City is also engaging an independent firm immediately to audit the Redflex contract for ALL past and ongoing activities to ensure Chicago taxpayers are not cheated in any way. If there are ANY findings of illegal conduct or improprieties that show Chicago taxpayers were defrauded, the City will seek penalties to the fullest extent of the law."

The city easily could have limited their response to claim they were only investigating the awarding of the contract and that the system is being implemented fairly. Instead they issued a blanket statement casting suspicion on the integrity of the entire program. HMMMM.. there have been no further clarifications of this statement. Only a fool would pay a red light ticket without a hearing at this point. Citing the citys own lack of faith in the integrity of the camera system.

Good thinking, believe what the city says, its a standard answer everytime they get caught. We will have a review and protect the citizens of Chicago. You can be sure of one thing, the city gets the red light citation fines and there is no way they are refunding all the money that has been paid to the red light program. Take that to the bank

3/03/2013 01:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city easily could have limited their response to claim they were only investigating the awarding of the contract and that the system is being implemented fairly. Instead they issued a blanket statement casting suspicion on the integrity of the entire program. HMMMM.. there have been no further clarifications of this statement. Only a fool would pay a red light ticket without a hearing at this point. Citing the citys own lack of faith in the integrity of the camera system

Good luck on going down for a hearing, let me know how that turns out

3/03/2013 01:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Lodge received the arbitrator’s decision in the Limited Duty case today. Our grievance was granted in part and denied in part. The arbitrator affirmed that officers working limited duty need to be able to effectuate the arrest of an active resister, affirming that new standard.

However, the arbitrator did change the time cap for non-IOD limited duty officers. Instead of one year, all non-IOD limited duty officers are now given two (2) years of limited duty eligibility. The two years is retroactive beginning 01 January 2012.

There are many questions regarding this decision and the Lodge wants to address everyone’s concerns. We will have a meeting to address these concerns on March 7, 2013 at the FOP Hall at 1300 hrs.

Go to the FOP website for additional info or to the meeting on 07 March 13.

Sounds to me like the FOP and us lost big time. The only good part that came out of the ruling for the FOP was that the limited duty is for 2 years, not 1 year like the city wanted

3/03/2013 01:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a po and can say Dan Herbert is a good man and a very good attorney.

3/03/2013 02:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I'm going through the appeal process now due to a botched BI which wasn't conducted by CPD. I also know people who passed the written test then personally skipped the power test due no longer wanting the job. These same people were then personally sent a letter from HR basically giving them a second chance when they were a no call no show. I also know people who are hired with current arrest on their record from 2-3 years ago"

I hope I never ride in a car with you. You're not even on the job and you're jamming people up. I bet if given the opportunity you would rat someone out to get on this job. Too much college. Worry about yourself!!

Just outlining the horrible hiring process that's all. Actually a vet with two masters and two tours in Iraq. Have a good day Sir!

3/03/2013 05:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Lodding at the Academy has done nothing wrong in terms of the hiring. He has nothing to do with it. He has asked, begged Ladner to get her shit together to no avail. All he can do is train what they send when they send.

3/02/2013 07:14:00 PM

It is true that Lodding has nothing to do with the hiring process. But Lodding is terrified to talk to any exempt.Lodding will not stand up or even question Tracy Ladner over all of the problems surrounding recruit hiring and spending. Problems over new recruits, benefits, insurance and injury claims. It seems with every problem no matter how small, will become a major problem with Ladner and Lodding is not up to the challenge of working with Ladner. Ladner calls and Lodding trembles. This is so sad how the academy has changed under the current leadership.

3/03/2013 09:19:00 AM

When she comes to the Academy she is dressed like a homeless bag lady. No ID visible and gets indignant when someone has the audacity to actually ask he who she is. A real hater.

3/03/2013 05:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of Ms. Tracy Ladner friends never had to go to the Medical Section and check in while on Non-IOD status. While others had to follow the rules. Check it out! You know who you are..you should be ashamed of the games you have been playin all these years

3/03/2013 06:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I was 6 months too young to take the women's test in 72. Didn't lie about my age, as others did back then. Took the test in 75 but was unqualified. You would not believe the people I knew who got hired that were "CONDITIONALLY QUALIFIED" Still can't figure that one out except: Funny everybody from my Irish Parish, at least 5 from my 8th grade class made it, but I was too dumb to drop. Black females also covered 2 quotas they're females and black, as far as I heard. The hearing was a joke of why I wasn't hired. Never got involved in lawsuit which I later heard some did. Got hired in 85 from 81 test. I waited 13 years to get on this job that I wanted since I was 16 years old. I have always wanted to hang that disqualification notice next to all my awards. This city is so sick it makes me want to vomit. I am retired now after a 25 year career. God Bless You All!

3/03/2013 02:53:00 AM


Can you say Prentice Marshall

3/03/2013 07:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Lodge received the arbitrator’s decision in the Limited Duty case today. Our grievance was granted in part and denied in part. The arbitrator affirmed that officers working limited duty need to be able to effectuate the arrest of an active resister, affirming that new standard.

However, the arbitrator did change the time cap for non-IOD limited duty officers. Instead of one year, all non-IOD limited duty officers are now given two (2) years of limited duty eligibility. The two years is retroactive beginning 01 January 2012.

There are many questions regarding this decision and the Lodge wants to address everyone’s concerns. We will have a meeting to address these concerns on March 7, 2013 at the FOP Hall at 1300 hrs.

Go to the FOP website for additional info or to the meeting on 07 March 13.

Sounds to me like the FOP and us lost big time. The only good part that came out of the ruling for the FOP was that the limited duty is for 2 years, not 1 year like the city wanted

3/03/2013 01:53:00 PM


thans all fine & dandy but 1st of all the arbitrator signed off on the ruling on 18 Feb..the dept sent out the ruling on 22 Feb..the ppl who were put on the medical were returned to work 28 Feb? 10 days later?!?!?! WTF...so we get another yr limited duty then its the same end result...we r fucked out of the job. the ruling is the ruling...it is what it is
WAY TO FIGHT FOR US FOP..we wouldve done much better getting 1yr for every 4yrs on the job but thats FOP for us

3/03/2013 07:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sue the entire Admin Bureau, Chief Williams his Deputy Chief and Ladner, go to court, get an injunction to halt police hiring!!! Boy with summer coming, Fire Ladner and hire the well deserved kids of coppers who she is fucking over.

3/03/2013 08:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is Firby Derby still employeed? The Diplomatic Liason Officer WTF is that

3/03/2013 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You have no Idea how happy I am for the truth to finally come out! The same thing happened to me! Bridget Messina is no better either! I have contacted Dan Herbert and I am waiting for a call back. Karma is a BITCH!

3/03/2013 11:52:00 AM

And so is Bridget Messina. Her SOP is to treat people with disrespect and contempt. Her true character is shown by how she demeans the powerless.

3/04/2013 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sue the entire Admin Bureau, Chief Williams his Deputy Chief and Ladner, go to court, get an injunction to halt police hiring!!! Boy with summer coming, Fire Ladner and hire the well deserved kids of coppers who she is fucking over

You are dreaming, easier said than done, the courts just hand out injunctions to halt police hiring, Get a grip

3/04/2013 02:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WAy back in the day, I was part of a group called the 1500 club, we were 1500 people that were passed over because Prentice Marshall ruled that there were not enough minorities being hired, I took the test in 1971, was supposed to be hired in 1973, but this judge slipped a hiring freeze into effect and caused me and the 1500 others that they had to hire starting in March 76. Never in all of my years have I seen anything so so blatant as this Tracey Ladner, it is really sad that she was able to stick around so long , she is a Daley person and yet Rahm kept her around, she has Fucked over too many people, even on promotional test, I don't ever see how she is qualified to run the Human Resources, she only has a law degree. She needs to go and these kids need to get hired , This Pschy Test Bullshit is enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3/05/2013 10:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope I never ride in a car with you. You're not even on the job and you're jamming people up. I bet if given the opportunity you would rat someone out to get on this job. Too much college. Worry about yourself!!

3/03/2013 06:07:00 AM

To the tool that posted this: You are an idiot. This whole post is about how some less qualified applicants are passing over much more qualified applicants because of their status in a police family or military vet! You are going to call this guy out and tell him he is "jamming" people up? Who did HE jam up? He didn't mention any one? You must be scared because you are the idiot with an outstanding CB#!



3/16/2013 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I completed the entire process in Jan 13 and have since taken 2 final pts. I have 3 friends who were 4-6 months behind me in the process who were just offered an academy date in June. My BG investigator is impossible to get a hold of and when I do talk to someone they offer no information. Although I was told I successfully completed everything. my friends attending the academy have no military or cilivian LE background. I have 6 yrs military law enforcement as an E5, upon completion of my masters, and civilian correctional experience. I cant help but feel discriminated against as a veteran.

5/25/2013 02:55:00 PM  

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