Lisa Punts
All you voters thinking Lisa would make a good governor, look at this political acumen - avoiding a decision at all costs:
- Attorney General Lisa Madigan has asked for more time to decide whether to appeal the federal court ruling that would require Illinois to put in place a law that allows for concealed weapons.
Madigan’s move would give the General Assembly time to pass legislation that would lift the ban on carrying concealed weapons by the current early June deadline. If Illinois approves a new law, an appeal would be a moot point, Madigan has said.
[...] Madigan currently has a May 23 deadline to ask the high court to take up an appeal of the December ruling by the U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals.
On Monday, she asked the U.S. Supreme Court to push the deadline to June 24 for when she would need to ask the high court to consider taking up an appeal.
Such as a request is not unusual in major cases, but the timing also would allow Madigan to see if the General Assembly can pass a concealed carry bill by the June 9 deadline the appeals court set for action in Springfield.
So it's all on the General Assembly, which has shown zero ability to craft and pass any sort of law that will comply with the Federal Court ruling.
In the meantime, no word from Legal Affairs regarding unconstitutional UUW charges starting 09 June. Just over 5 weeks away.
In the meantime, no word from Legal Affairs regarding unconstitutional UUW charges starting 09 June. Just over 5 weeks away.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
37 Comments:
Guess they're all hoping for another mass murder to sway the hearts and minds as they say.
The criminal-political powers of Illinois and Chicago are beside themselves with desperation.
An unarmed tax payer?
A captive, peed on peon with no recourse via the ballot box and no relief by way of the law and subject to the whims of the Illinois & Chicago criminal-political cabal.
An ARMED tax payer?
A true and non-captive citizen with the right, duty AND ability to force common sense change should every check, balance and safeguard be intentionally compromised by the Illinois & Chicago criminal-political cabal.
Said intentional compromise ongoing for the last 40+ years.
Will the clear-eyed and level-headed righteously indignant and irate Citizen Gun-Men take their posts please...
A state and city desperately need a course of correction to be drawn up.
May the politicians shit themselves with many multiple and vibrant shades of yellow and green for their cowardice, arrogance and greed...
They dance, cry and cut themselves with sharp things in hope The Fakir of Fuckery gives short shrift to separation of powers and pulls a special something out of the government hat to save Illinois from the indignity of taking the first step to being a "Free" state.
To you elected fools...
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Lil Lisa needs more time.
The State Legislature has had about 165 days to get something done.
Minus 7 days for New Years break.
Minus 7 days for the April Spring break.
Probably some more breaks in there that I missed.
And Lil Lisa needs more time to decide whether to appeal?? The SCOTUS just turned down a case that probably would have overturned New York's gun laws.
I am hoping nothing gets passed. It would serve the Cook County Commiecrats right. Why should the Republicans compromise with the Commiecrats?
Let them try to pass a more restrictive CCW law after none at all. Try putting that genie back into the bottle.
So if it comes to pass that all one needs to carry a concealed weapon in Illinois, what happens in Chicago if you don't have a Chicago "license"?
Don't go jumping to arrest people until Legal Affairs comes up with guidelines. You may be betting your house.
It is probably fair to say that no matter what Illinois does, the resulting "law" is likely to not live up to the spirit of concealed carry. Illinois will probably try to restrict our cpnstitutional right to protect ourselves resulting in more lawsuits.
I hope any ill-conceived Illinois statute is quickly declared unconstitutional.
What a steaming pile of horseshit. Little Lisa Madigan obviously thinks that if she stalls long enough President Obama will be a good sugar daddy and magically make the federal ruling go away, despite the fact that this is impossible, and she and dear sweet dad can get back to shitting on everyone's rights forthwith. The probability of the legislature coming up with something that passes federal muster is approximately zero so per the OP the only question is how local PDs will handle the, er, illegal law in June.
I'm a big states' rights guy but IL makes me wonder if some states just don't deserve the right to self-govern. As dysfunctional as Washington is, they're a model government compared to Springfield.
Shouldn't we be banning the Star Spangle Banner?
I mean this national anthem singing about "bombs bursting in mid air and rockets red glare" is only glorifying violent behavior and the use of weapons of mass destruction.
Speaking of which, why is the city blowing off all these "shots fired" calls that turn out to be fireworks?
Since we now know that the Boston Marathon bombs were made from the powder used in common fireworks shouldn't we be taking this more seriously?
Blowing off the shots fired because they are fireworks dosen't follow the "Broken Windows" crime fighting methodogy does it?
I mean fireworks are banned in Chicago and we ignore them. What's it gonna take?
Garry says we should stop the small crimes because it prevents the larger crimes from happening.
Actions don't match the words!
Where's the universal backgroud checks for sparklers and mandatory sentencing?
/sarcasm?
I can't wait! conceal carry is a must especially in chi-raq, but to see lisa lose? Priceless!
Lisa does what her father tells her.
Ann Burke does what her husband tells her.
Rahm does what the guys who control Obama tell him and the fools who elect these puppets get what they deserve.
"In the meantime, no word from Legal Affairs regarding unconstitutional UUW charges starting 09 June. Just over 5 weeks away."
still insist on playing by the rules?
even when the rules are made by knuckleheads?
tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk....
Chalkie
How about We the People make that decision for her? Wait a minute, I think WE already spoke. Stop wasting our tax dollars on something we have made clear to you: we like the Second Amendment just the way it is! Let the people protect themselves.
As long as they are not felons or have an active OP, who cares what the law dept says, just let them be on their way.
Don't worry about concealed carry. They'll just put so many restrictions about where firearms can be carried. Places like schools, banks, libraries, sports arenas, etc... will be prohibited areas.
Looks to me like she has all the qualifications to govern this fucked up backwards corrupt state. Enjoy your future in Killinois taxpayers.
If it was a law allowing the killing of babies, or allowing gays to marry ... Lisa would be all over it wouldn't she?
Hey, as a matter of fact, our fearless lead Anita Alvarez has been ignoring Illinois law defining marriage as between a man and a woman.
Guess we get to pick and choose based on out personal whims.
THAT'S leadership!
OLA can't issue anything until a)there's actual revised legislation in place, or b)the Appelate Court issues a formal opinion or SCOTUS, having agreed to hear the case, issues an opinion.
"If Illinois approves a new law, an appeal would be a moot point, Madigan has said. "
Really? I'd like to have her explain why that is the case.
Let's see. Illinois was hit with a federal court order. Illinois was given 6 months to comply with the court order. But just because you COMPLY with the court order, you somehow forfeit your rights to file an appeal if the time window is still open?
Waiver? Don't think so.
Estoppel? Don't think so.
Curious if anyone out there knows her basis, other than being a crack-smoking gun-grabber.
Not a LEO, just a lawyer.
the appellate court ruling does not change the law. the uuw charges are valid based upon the law as written at the time of the arrest. just ask all the uuw offenders awaiting trial except state senator trotter he plead bargain his charges down to reckless conduct, that's the Chicago Way, Way!
Qit dreaming people. There is a method to this stupidity. We will never get a reasonable Shall Issue law in Cook County or Chicago. They already know the end game. We just keep thinking this is a real government around here. It goes the way THEY want it to go...not the people. If we continue to vote these assholes in...we get the same corrupt garbage. Keep writing and harassing your representatives. At least they will screw us knowingly.
Hopefully Lisa will take it to the Supreme Court. As the 7th Circuit ruled, the need for self defense is greater outside the home than inside. The Supreme Court already ruled that the 2nd amendment provides a fundamental right to a firearm inside the home (ourside the home was not part of that case).
With the current Supreme Court, Lisa will lose. This means shall care will be ruled a fundamental right. So besides Chicago, NYC, MD, LA CA, can kiss their may issue crap goodbye.
Bring it on, Lisa (and daddy)!!!
OT, but a woman cut from the same cloth as Liiiiissssaaaaa!:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/04/30/tsarnaev-the-best-defense-your-tax-money-can-buy/
I want to see one of those lottery checks to the NRA again with Quinn's signature on it. Yes, its our money, but at least I can agree with where that check goes.
Its better to not spend the money at all, but the democrats are like lice on a body, they are the last blood suckers to crawl off corpse.
Leroy O'Shields-- Leroy O'Shields--Leroy O'Shields
Someone should PUNT Lisa and her daddy in the ass. How bout RAY GUY?
Don't forget, the George Zimmerman trial in Florida starts June 10, the day after the 7th Circuit's stay expires. The reverends are praying (literally, for once) for an acquittal so they can lead marches and riots, and Obama can lecture us about how the jury "acted stupidly".
They think they are above the law.
She is not his daughter, she was adopted. I wonder who were real mother & father are.
She is useless, just another democrat who wants to rule us all.
CHICAGO (Reuters) - Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan on Tuesday proposed a comprehensive plan to fix the state's sagging public pension system - the worst-funded state pension system in the country - with only a month to go in the legislature's spring session.
The 271-page measure sets a cap on salaries used to determine pensions, limits cost-of-living adjustments on pensions for future retirees, increases retirement ages for workers currently under 45 years old, and hikes worker pension contributions by 1 percent over each of the next two fiscal years.
The measure aims for "100 percent funding in 30 years" of a state pension system that is underfunded by $100 billion, according to a bill summary from Madigan's office.
Additionally, the measure exempts pension changes from collective bargaining.
"We think this is a bill that has a good chance of getting through both chambers and onto the governor's desk," said Steve Brown, Madigan's spokesman. Appears Dad is at it also, says nothing about what the government is going to give up or pay? Oh they don't
After her request for an en banc hearing before the entire Seventh Circuit was denied, Attorney General Lisa Madigan has now filed an "Application for an Extension of Time in Which to File a Petition for Writ of Certiorari to the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit" in Moore, et al. v. Madigan, et al.
CLICK ON MADIGAN BRIEF TO SCOTUS
As far as concealed carry by responsible, law-abiding adults outside the home, note that conflicts exist between Moore and the opinions of the two following sister Circuit Courts of Appeals on New York and Maryland cases, respectively:
#12-845 KACHALSKY v. CACACE (2nd Circuit 2012; cert. denied)
#12-1437 WOOLLARD v. GALLAGHER (4th Circuit 2013)
A part of the law should be no taxpayer funded security for any politician. Unless there is a shall issue carry concealed for the public.
"In the meantime, no word from Legal Affairs regarding unconstitutional UUW charges starting 09 June. Just over 5 weeks away."
Well, that's because they're drafting their ordinance to ram through when the state doesn't accomplish anything by the deadline......
It's only the UUW/AUUW statute that gets thrown out......
I truly expect Chicago (and a couple others)to enact their own restrictions to try to keep people from carrying.....
They'll be just as unconstitutional as the law that the 7th Circuit overturned, but they will have to make their way through the courts
Without a SHALL ISSUE bill with STATEWIDE PREEMPTION of local ordinances we will be subject to a patchwork of go/no-go zones
Anonymous 4/30/2013 07:43:00 AM said...
OLA can't issue anything until a)there's actual revised legislation in place, or b)the Appelate Court issues a formal opinion or SCOTUS, having agreed to hear the case, issues an opinion.
Ummmmm, the 7th Circuit HAS issued a ruling....way back on December 12, 2012.....
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca7/12-1269/12-1269-2012-12-11.pdf
Lisa has already lost her appeal for a hearing by the full board of the 7th Circuit and has until May 23 to file her appeal with the SCOTUS.......
She just asked for a 30 day extension to that May 23 deadline....
Please please please PLEASE arrest me for UUW on June 10th -- I need the money!
If they would just listen to the people of the state they would sit down and write a tough, comprehesive Shall Issue law. I am betting most people would support a law with lots of training required. No one wants to see people just popping a gun in a holster and walking around with it before know the heavy responsibility that goes along with it. There are very very few instances where use of deadly force is justified. Get with the program Illinos. hell it will even create a market for training schools, ranges, shops. Etc. think of all the tax money these creatures can collect. We can dream I guess.
Anonymous said...
the appellate court ruling does not change the law. the uuw charges are valid based upon the law as written at the time of the arrest. just ask all the uuw offenders awaiting trial except state senator trotter he plead bargain his charges down to reckless conduct, that's the Chicago Way, Way!
4/30/2013 08:33:00 AM
If thats the case and the standing rule of law applies,then the Dick Act stands and renders "uuw" unlawful. Sorry,there is ALREADY an existing and UNREPEALABLE law regarding 2A as well as the US and ILLINOIS Constitution that was WELL inplace before the draconian and Illegal Chicago Gun "law" went into effect.
Stay away from the civil suits that are to come, been through a couple, not good believe me not good. This women does not care what happens to you your partner your family or your job. Just politics as usual.
UUW pinch+FOID=$$$$$$$$$$$$$
The bottom is that Chicago and the Machine cannot accept the fact that citizens have the right to own and carry a weapon.
They will never admit that this exists.
They will not agree to ANYTHING,no matter how restrictive,that says you can carry a weapon.
I am hoping nothing gets passed. It would serve the Cook County Commiecrats right. Why should the Republicans compromise with the Commiecrats?
They already have. Kirk is a RINO.
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