More Burge?
- Cook County’s chief criminal courts judge will appoint a special prosector [sic] to decide whether to grant new trials for a group of imprisoned men who claim they were tortured and forced into confessing by disgraced former Chicago Police Cmdr. Jon Burge and his underlings. Criminal Courts Chief Judge Paul Biebel Jr. said he continues to feel that the Cook County state’s attorney’s office has a “conflict of interest” and should not be weighing in on the cases of at least four men who have been recently granted post-conviction hearings and others who are seeking a class-action petition.
Northwestern is involved again, despite firing the former professor involved in all this and being disgraced by numerous allegations of fraud and bought/paid for testimony. If we aren't mistaken, not a single shred of evidence has ever been brought forth that even gave a hint that what is alleged ever occurred - no typewriter covers, no photos or notes of injuries, no DNA. Even the "shock box" was a construct of the plaintiffs' attorneys of something that "might have been used" in the torture that no one can prove.
This will be providing headlines for years.
This will be providing headlines for years.
Labels: scandals
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
34 Comments:
Don't go painting Burge as a saint...lighting may strike.
Don't be surprised if they go after Burge again. I imagine the goal is to incarcerate him until death. He was already jammed up when these guys pulled their bullshit. Next it will be you once met a guy that walked past Burge in a restaurant, you are a "torturor". There is a large number of influential liberals that hate the police with a passion and believe minorities should never be imprisoned.
Yeah Northwestern!!!
Go WildCats!!!
Do you really blame them?
"Even the "shock box" was a construct of the plaintiffs' attorneys of something that "might have been used" in the torture that no one can prove."
Old WWII US Army Signal Corps crank-up magneto, used to send a ringing voltage down the miles of wire line to ring a field telephone.
After the war, there were literally tons of these available surplus for $1.98. "Experimenter's delight -- practical joker -- get worms out of ground for fishing."
Yes, the last I read, that box with the wires they keep showing is a "fascimile" "made up to look like what might have been used."
It will be providing headlines for years because socialists need to continue to demonize the police.
How's that working for the rest of you citizens on the Mag Mile? Pretty good, huh? Enjoy your wildings. You voted for it.
Hey look at the Anthony Porter case. The "new" offender gave a full confession to the investigator (for The Northwestern Center for Wrongful convictions I believe it was called at the time).
Guess what? The "new" offender said he was coerced into confessing by this investigator.
Guess the police aren't the only ones wrongfully charged with coercion, huh, Mr. Investigator? How does it feel?
The public needs to realize that the only "out" these shitheads have it to say they were coerced - to get the confession thrown out. That's the only card they can play, and they will do ANYTHING (including lie) to get out of it.
I'd do they same thing - can't blame them really.
Now add Mr. Loevy to the mix and you have a real cauldron of immorality and publicity-seeking. All the fine Mr. Loevy has to do is "guide" these former clients of Commander Burge into forming a story with some similarity to the others. Poof. A phony atrocity is made.
That's not to say Burge was a choir-boy, I don't think anyone believes that.
This is why people hate the Southern Poverty Law Center - an otherwise well-meaning organization corrupted by lying lawyers and misguided missions.
Burge got the job done.
Bravo for posting this, SCC, particularly about Northwestern. What Northwestern, Protess and all the wrongful conviction radicals are truly nervous about is the Anthony Porter case. They know that Protess and his sidekick Paul Ciolino bribed, perjured, obstructed justice, intimidated witnesses in their quest to free Anthony Porter from prison and put an innocent man, Alstory Simon, in jail. Simon is perhaps the only truly wrongfully convicted man in Illinois history. Alvarez knows what Northwestern did, but she's too afraid of the political blowback. All anyone has to do is read the Grand Jury transcripts from 1999 in the Porter case to see exactly what scum these wrongful conviction advocates truly are and what lengths they will go to to destroy cases and ruin the police. It all started with Burge and his men, who never tortured anyone. They are out of control and no one seems to have the guts to stop them.
Brave SCC. Don't let up on these guys.
All you had to do is make the bad guy afraid. He would give it all up.
was`t crime down during the Burge years?
It is evident that the main stream media is so bereft of talent that they can only rehash the same story or pictures over and over (i.e. the Abbate story). There are literally investigative leads that they could follow found here on SCC everyday but most in the media are to lazy to find the real facts. You would almost have to think that Burge & Co. never arrested a guilty man if you listen to the media.
Burge fought the fight they wanted at the time. Hook or crook. They ( politicians) all knew it. They touted the clearance rate. It was considered the price of success.
And to those saying " don't paint him as a saint". There are no saints this cities administrations. It's been a culture of corruption from its birth. The leaders set the tone..
Was that the professor that offered up some college girl as a "treat" (his word, not mine) to some hardened criminal for favorable testimony? that college girl was somebody's daughter. Some family mortgaged their life saving to send this girl to get an education.
The left wing bias in schools is out of hand when a convicted murderer of policemen is hired to teach at a University over people that, you know, murder policemen.
Bill Ayers invited to the White House and nobody has a huge problem with this?
Wrongly convicted is a euphemism for 'defense lawyer missed a trick'. Remember that before you go giving them our tax dollars.
Free Jon Burge!
It seems more than obvious that the city is looking for more negative police stories. If they can't get anything current to bash the police, they will keep digging up old stories from the bad old days. Expect Burge, Abate and "former cop" Mandell to have their stories played relentlessly through the Chicago lap dog media. You might also see guest appearances by Finnegan and Medjanowski (sp). Maybe they can do a Chuck Goudie Investigative special on the Red Squad and the old Scotland Yard.
If Burge did anything wrong, Daley and his assistants some of whom are now judges knew what was going on. It is a travesty of justice that a Vietnam Veteran like Burge, who was an outstanding Commander, and respected by his detectives sits in prison, while Daley is free, micro manager piece of shit that he was, yet he claims to have known nothing while he makes millions of dollars. This is JUSTICE Crook County style.
These people keep trotting Burge out when they feel their agenda is leaving the rails.
You know... Gotta keep this "brutal Po-leece" thing hotted up... This has the sulfurous stench of a Rahm & Co. media request to "keep those Coppers on the front burner..."
We present you with this...
-Huffington Post: 07 April 2011-
"David Protess, Northwestern University Professor, Accused Of Doctoring Documents"
"Northwestern University officials have released a statement explaining the dismissal of renowned journalism professor David Protess, saying he lied to the university about documents related to a high-profile legal case, reports North by Northwestern."
"Among other discoveries, the university found that Protess had altered a 2007 email sent to the defense team of alleged murderer Anthony McKinney regarding the release of student memos before submitting it to the Medill School of Journalism Dean John Lavine and Protess' then legal representation..."
This article isn't the golden nugget of summation regarding this whole mess... BUT... We do recall there were definite long running "issues" in regard to the integrity of this entire exercise by NU.
Heh...
Issues that apparently scared the shit out of NU legal so badly that they got the administrators to wrap Protess in chains and shove him overboard to keep the University from getting bit in the ass from all the funny business with the Medill Innocence Project in conjunction with the Center on Wrongful Conviction.
Funny... Weren't the Feds actually looking at this mess?
Suddenly... "*" = >Poof!<
Nothing? How in hell could there be a flash and a puff of smoke after all the scurrying sounds of a hurried tidying-up and frantic ass-covering shortly before and a while after Protess hit the drink and disappeared below the surface?
There WERE A LOT OF WORRIED PEOPLE at NU and the Innocence Project...
And other places?
Mind you... NOT A SINGLE ALLEGATION was ever conclusively proven against Burge.
He was hooked up by the Feds under the "catch-all" of lying to them.
Which means the Feds had zip and were desperate to put Burge away on anything?
No... We aren't Burge fans. Besides, it was a shit case from the word go, because the (then) sitting Cook County State's Attorney Richard M. Daley somehow managed to escape giving sworn testimony during the whole sorry shit-show of a trial.
We just aren't fans of a shoddy "hurry up and put your pants on before someone walks in" investigation... Whether local or federally.
The questions will always go begging because there was just too much bullshit in the game.
The smoke and heat are there?
Draw your own conclusions about the fire?
Yeah... They may figure out a way to go after Burge again for the simple fact that he refuses to die.
And the possibility that he could still hurt some influential people with what he knows?
The dots could probably connect themselves... All the way to even the current mayoral administration?
Heh... This IS Chicago after all...
Check your incredulity at the door.
I still get a laugh at the woman who was quoted as saying she pays $17,000 a year in property taxes.
Pretty steep to have the animals come to your front door.
And how long are the rap sheets for each of these so- called "victims" of torture?? How can anyone believe a bunch lying, scamming, career criminals that are now coming out of the woodwork claiming abuse just to get some cash out of the deal? Here's an idea- how about for all of these mutts who claimed they were beaten/ tortured, we first add up all the costs for housing, meals, court fees, and medical care given to them for incarceration from crimes prior to any conviction due to Burge and his supposed devices. Then subtract that from any monetary award they would be seeking to pay back the tax payers who carry the financial burden of all this. The mutt can claim his $1.50 in restitution- problem solved.
This should be a lesson for all of you "go getters" and "aggressive working police officers". If you are smart you will know what to do. If you are stupid then one day you might be the next Captain Burge.
This is not about truth or justice. It's all about attorneys making legal fees from the taxpayers, nothing more. When an alleged torture victim get $750,000 and Flint Taylor gets $5,000,000 something is wrong.
At least there was no waterboarding...
Maybe he will finally roll over on the studdering prick himself. I would love to see mummbles go to jail!!
Wasnt there a state's attorney who approved all those murder charges? What happened to him? He never heard a peep about all the torture? Whatever happened to that guy?
COLLUSION:Yes a bunch of guys who were convicted of capital crimes in the same prison can collude with lawyers to not only have their cases retried without evidence then collude again to defraud the city of chicago and county state of ill out of millions in lawsuits with no merit. Its called collusion.
At least there was no waterboarding...
4/12/2013 04:48:00 PM
too bad there was no waterboarding.
It is evident that the main stream media is so bereft of talent that they can only rehash the same story or pictures over and over (i.e. the Abbate story).
No kidding! Today's Scum Times cover photo was a rerun of a sleeping employee that they ran weeks ago...under the guise of a "follow-up".
I feel compelled to write this. I was a detective for 28 years in Chicago, worked all over Area 2, 4 and 6. I did not know Burge but I did know some of the guys with him. I worked a side job with a few. I can tell you this, never did I hear of or see a "black Box" or any of the other "supposed" torture equipment, anywhere. It was all made up bull shit. Here's a question, would you, or do you know anyone, who would take one of these so called "black boxes" and hook it up to the balls of one of these pos. I don't think so. hitting them with a typewriter maybe but working typewriters were hard to find back then, and you had to type your reports. I'm quite sure we would have heard about the dick who hooked up bad guy's balls. The "black box" story was used to accuse our troops in Vietnam of torture also. This was and is all part of the Communist bull shit. Burge case is a travesty and taught today in all university's as the gods truth. Be careful out there and back each other up. Nobody else will.
Look, let's end the PLO and North Western's bullshit here. Yes, people were beaten for killing policeman. Were they tortured? Nope, not one bit.
"Torture" is a tag line used by the media (and defense attorneys)because it sells news.
I've been on the job for almost two decade's, and I've NEVER see anyone "tortured" by a detective, let alone by another cop.
To further the argument; doesn't a SINGLE journalist REALIZE that the bad guy wants to get off!!!!!!!! Of course their going to say that shit, I would too!!!!!
Hello.....
Chicago media, you have been sold some good swamp land. OUI!!!
I just have 3 words to say in regards to jon burge-- " the wilson brothers"--- hopefully they both cried for days and pissed blood for months---
The Burge saga could easily wind up costing this city over $100M when the books on this sorry chapter of Chicago policing at its worst is closed. Thanks Breczyk and Daley.
A pitiful retired Detective from Area 3 or 5 went to work for the Northwestern Innocence project. This asshole is the lowest any police officer can go. The biggest asshole in the history of IAD can't hold a candle to you. Interesting how they went after everyone else in a recent lawsuit but left you and your old partner out of it, even though you were part of it. Just when you think you have seen everything a bigger asshole emerges to prove you wrong. Your whole career was spent pretending to be the police.
Just when you think you have seen everything a bigger asshole emerges to prove you wrong. Your whole career was spent pretending to be the police.
4/13/2013 07:25:00 PM
on the bright side, you could have chosen proctology as a career.
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