Police Gunfight in.....Roseland!
- Chicago police exchanged gunfire with a person in the Roseland neighborhood on the Far South Side early Thursday morning, according to authorities.
No officers were injured, but police said the gunman may have been wounded. He was still at large this morning.
The shooting happened around 12:50 a.m. as police responded to a 911 call about a group of people fighting and a man with a gun near 113th Street and Normal Avenue, police said.
Police were fired at and officers returned fire, Police News Affairs [...] said, citing early reports.
The shooting is the fourth time since Sunday morning that police have been fired upon or fired at suspects.
No police injured, bad guy might be bleeding out somewhere, and no innocent baseball teams caught in the crossfire.
No info on the rumor that Brooks High School is putting up a 12 foot wall of corrugated steel around it's ballpark in light of recent events.
Four police shootings in five days.
No info on the rumor that Brooks High School is putting up a 12 foot wall of corrugated steel around it's ballpark in light of recent events.
Four police shootings in five days.
Labels: shooting
posted by SCC at 7:31 AM
75 Comments:
What we need is one (or more) of those surplus tanks the Army does not need. Any way the city can come up with a few million to purchase one? It certainly would be much more useful than another Daley park.
Isn't Roseland the same place where President Sparklefarts was so successful as a "community organizer"?
Does anybody from 005 even remember this guy?
The shot dude is lying in the visitor's dugout, under the player's bench. Honest!
OT, I hope Joanne Chesimard's lifeless body is brought to New Jersey for that $2 million award soon!
Wanna bet that Gov. Potato Head and the ISP will be at the game along with 9.5 and his detail? I would not be surprised in my belle Michelle arrived to...as this is a teachable moment for the utes.
Skahill just quit...last day May 15
What is the point of policing the ghetto like Roseland?? Seriously why??.. There is zero respect for the police or the law.
The ghetto woppers pay no taxes so in "normal world" should get no police resources!!
Garry needs to pull out of the ghetto and put more police downtown immediately!!
But..but...but the baseball game will have guards outside in yellow vests I've read recently. Don't know if they are armed guards though. The story on dnainfo.com did not say.
Too bad the mayor didn't support that Roseland Hospital right near there too. They need that.
Now we have to depend and hope that Rev. Jesse Jackson gets Quinn to give the Hospital the $7 million dollars it needs.
We got that $55 million dollar maggie park downtown though. What a racist organization this city has running it I'll tell you what. So many better places to spend that money and the mayor spends it on bullshit.
ot , it looks like sgts voted down a sweetheart contract with rahm.
look at what leprecan is doing with state pensions.
cpd , cfd , streets and san better get ready to protest city hall.
Any word on the fto class? When they are done and when the guys at traffic are going to go to them?
SAD!
I heard the Brooks H.S. is erecting a brand new sign in front of the school and I heard its going to say,"Welcome to the Brooks H.S. and the Wild Wild Hundreds, God made the Hundreds and Man made it Wild."
OT
After June 1, all VRI is on foot.
I don't believe this happened. I personally think that the person with the gun was turning his life around by waiting for the police to show up and he wanted to TURN IN the gun. The police mistakenly thought he was a bad guy. So in self defense the guy turning the gun in, accidentally discharged his weapon because he was unfamiliar with the working mechanisms of the gun. Now if he would have only taken that safety course the city offers he would have been ok.
Oh and he ran afterward because he was scared and ran home to get his eight grade graduation photo to the press as soon as possible. His grandmama was the mastermind behind this whole thing so she could get some tattoos, new Nikes and big screen TV for the 100 dollar weapon turn in.
scc:
I know this is off topic and I apologize. But could you please post something about the status of medical insurance for retirees. Basically retirees have to understand unless there is an injunction or some other court action they will have no insurance effective 30 Jun 13. From the city's prospective they have included this by casually mentioning it in various mailings about health coverage. If nothing else retirees should begin the leg work researching alternatives to the city coverage. The VP of the pension board which is also the City Treasurer as much as said this at the pension board meeting on 30 Apr 13. This according to the president of the Dets Assoc. The president of the pension board and the retirees representative to the board has remained mute on the subject. Additionally, a lawyer Krislov and Assoc. that represented the plaintiffs in the original Korshak case is requesting those interested in having him plead their case,to fill out a form allowing him to represent them. He has suggested establishing a "warchest" fund that would be returned to each individual if not necessary. I think its important to get the word out and I hope you will help. Thanks much, keep up the good work.
This is Sparta!
Chief Skahill put her papers in today. That is three CHIEFS that quit in a week, not to mention the Commanders that have walked in the last month.
Rumor has it the McStreetlights has a just put cigar box on his desk with a "Put your Gold Stars Here" sign on it.
Good for Tina , there is life after CPD .
Hire more Police.
Hire More Police.
Hire More Police.
Funny you never see the Alderman from the shit hole ward.
Aint no money in death and bullets.
Blame it on walmart they just don't hire enough drop outs.
Not Roseland.
113 & Normal is not the Roseland I knew.For obvious reasons now a days.But still, It's not Roseland.
On a brighter note, the gold stars are finally getting smart?
Stupid Shits...I left 4 years ago.
At least I got a 4 year start on the pension that may never be there for some.
Young Coppers....Get you a good retirement pro like an Edward Jones type of guy and throw 1K min per month into it.
Deferred Comp is good, but they don't manage like that company.
Good Luck Guys.Stay Safe.
I know this is off topic and I apologize. But could you please post something about the status of medical insurance for retirees. Basically retirees have to understand unless there is an injunction or some other court action they will have no insurance effective 30 Jun 13. From the city's prospective they have included this by casually mentioning it in various mailings about health coverage. If nothing else retirees should begin the leg work researching alternatives to the city coverage. The VP of the pension board which is also the City Treasurer as much as said this at the pension board meeting on 30 Apr 13. This according to the president of the Dets Assoc. The president of the pension board and the retirees representative to the board has remained mute on the subject. Additionally, a lawyer Krislov and Assoc. that represented the plaintiffs in the original Korshak case is requesting those interested in having him plead their case,to fill out a form allowing him to represent them. He has suggested establishing a "warchest" fund that would be returned to each individual if not necessary. I think its important to get the word out and I hope you will help. Thanks much, keep up the good work.
You would think between the pension board, the FOP and the city they would be able to get some information out regarding what is going to be done and what the process will be. Are they in negotiations? are talks scheduled and if it all ends on June 30,2013 will the city give a grace period and can FOP find a supplemental policy for the retirees. They have a dental policy the FOP negotiated for thew retirees
take it easy,everything is coming up roses!
There is absolutely too much crying on this job. If you can't handle working in the 'hood quit. You chose to be on CPD. You didn't choose Wilmette,Glencoe, Highland Park,or any place else. STFU and be the police.
Anonymous said...
What is the point of policing the ghetto like Roseland?? Seriously why??.. There is zero respect for the police or the law.
The ghetto woppers pay no taxes so in "normal world" should get no police resources!!
Garry needs to pull out of the ghetto and put more police downtown immediately!!
5/02/2013 11:54:00 AM
Sorry, I must disagree with this comment. I spent 34 years working in " ghetto" districts. 005,006,007,011. I found many fine people living there just trying to survive. Yes, more then their share of dickheads, drug and alcohol users, domestic abusers, young people who just dont give a shit about authority or school, but many fine people. You just dont come into contact with these fine people and there is a reason for that. I also found more then what I wanted to find in corrupt alderman, corrupt and racist police commanders ( yes black racists) who seemed to be on the side of the gangs who owned some of the large nightclubs and the alderpersons who also allowed corruption to continue. If these police commanders would have been aggressive in shutting down many of these bars and lounges and corrupt business, things would have been much better in these districts. I say try to keep a clear head about what you do and who you do it for. There are good people in these districts, maybe they dont speak out, they sure are afraid, but they need good cops to help them. Maybe they dont have the clear cut social values that you have or the education or the finances, but they sure could use the help and will continue to need the help.
Chief Rivera is still way over his head in IAD. But not for long. Those poor P.O's in confidential will be good too it took time but the light is at the end of the tunnel. Bye Bye.
SCC,
You probably won't post this, but I wouldn't want my son playing baseball around those rats. They don't care about their neighborhood, so why should anyone else send their kids there?
That's impossible!
It's a "Gun Free Zone".
Ain't no pity in shithead city!
8:17.....
Wrong, you don't need tanks.
The only thing that will work is the forced removal of the population. Preferably to another blue state. Why not Washington or Oregon?
Think of it as a modern day trail of tears...It needs to be done!
Does Brooks still have the lagoon that Mendel had?
OT
Reports that 8 MORE exempt members are putting in their papers Friday.
Off Topic but only in Illinois !!
Judge OKs release Illinois man charged with terror...
And I,cannot carry a gun !?
Remember when the new Sox park went up, The fine residents were shooting from the roofs from Robert Taylor.
Richie took care of that, the Jets were torn down.
Richie was a little fucked up, but he knew how to handle the thugs. This asshole midget mayor should be impeached, then Quinn and Madigan.
You hair gels miss Richie and Jody YET !!
I am retired and felt a lot better about Chicago when Richie ran the show and Jody was the man in charge.
You guys be safe this summer, the rats are more violent toward the police more then ever. In the 70 and 80', there were bad ass dudes out there, but they knew their limits when it came to dealing with us smoking and drinking copper's who took no shit. We got respect and gave it back to them.
Times have changed guys and you good coppers will get rail roaded by your alleged supervisors in a New York Second. Learn to be a bull shit artist with all, just to keep you sane and safe. May God watch over all you good coppers.
OT Did anyone notice how Seattle police copied the CPD tactic of using the bike patrol to control the May day demonstrators?
Anonymous said...
OT
Reports that 8 MORE exempt members are putting in their papers Friday.
5/02/2013 07:15:00 PM
Great...if that's true it means an even worse batch of clueless, merit hacks getting promoted soon. Deputy Chiefs West and Pena. Marone!
A lot of young bosses have left since McCarthy came, which obviously points directly to McCarthy. These young guys had a good chance at top spot, but chose to leave because McCarthy is ruining this department.
Expect to see numerous fto's drop out of program bc they let them go to any district then dumped them to midnights even though they have plenty of seniority over others
Expect to see numerous fto to drop from program bc getting dumped to midnights even though they have plenty of seniority to make it to other watches. Good job city
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/crime-rates/25-most-dangerous-neighborhoods/
Anonymous said...
There is absolutely too much crying on this job. If you can't handle working in the 'hood quit. You chose to be on CPD. You didn't choose Wilmette,Glencoe, Highland Park,or any place else. STFU and be the police.
5/02/2013 05:58:00 PM
Thank you! I concur.
RE the numerous exempts retiring:
could it possibly be because of the new pension retirement bill that will soon be voted in? There will be a limit on the amount of money one can retire who makes over 100K. Not sure if it applies to the police and fire, but it will affect teachers and other union groups.
how do you email a "recruiting" poster (pdf image) to SCC?
Chief Skahill put her papers in today. That is three CHIEFS that quit in a week, not to mention the Commanders that have walked in the last month.
Rumor has it the McStreetlights has a just put cigar box on his desk with a "Put your Gold Stars Here" sign on it.
---
No big loss there. (except to the pension fund). She was a chief in rank only.
Murder in Roseland. Shot in the head.
OT Did anyone notice how Seattle police copied the CPD tactic of using the bike patrol to control the May day demonstrators?
5/02/2013 08:27:00 PM
No, we copied first...
All these Exempts leaving tells me that there is a major pension fucking coming before the legislative session is out.
Anonymous said...
scc:
I know this is off topic and I apologize. But could you please post something about the status of medical insurance for retirees. Basically retirees have to understand unless there is an injunction or some other court action they will have no insurance effective 30 Jun 13. From the city's prospective they have included this by casually mentioning it in various mailings about health coverage. If nothing else retirees should begin the leg work researching alternatives to the city coverage. The VP of the pension board which is also the City Treasurer as much as said this at the pension board meeting on 30 Apr 13. This according to the president of the Dets Assoc. The president of the pension board and the retirees representative to the board has remained mute on the subject. Additionally, a lawyer Krislov and Assoc. that represented the plaintiffs in the original Korshak case is requesting those interested in having him plead their case,to fill out a form allowing him to represent them. He has suggested establishing a "warchest" fund that would be returned to each individual if not necessary. I think its important to get the word out and I hope you will help. Thanks much, keep up the good work.
***********************************
What are you? A doubting Republican? Don't sweat it dude, Obama care is going to take care of all your medical needs.
Please promote Trahanas to get her the hell out of 020!
Anonymous Joe Stein said...
SCC,
You probably won't post this, but I wouldn't want my son playing baseball around those rats. They don't care about their neighborhood, so why should anyone else send their kids there?
5/02/2013 06:25:00 PM
Hey Joe, do your homework. Brooks is not a neighborhood school. A lot those kids do not live around the school buddy. They travel from other neighborhoods to attend the school. Ding dong (bell ringing noise not calling you names Joey).
Retired guy said...
Anonymous said...
What is the point of policing the ghetto like Roseland?? Seriously why??.. There is zero respect for the police or the law.
The ghetto woppers pay no taxes so in "normal world" should get no police resources!!
Garry needs to pull out of the ghetto and put more police downtown immediately!!
5/02/2013 11:54:00 AM
Sorry, I must disagree with this comment. I spent 34 years working in " ghetto" districts. 005,006,007,011. I found many fine people living there just trying to survive. Yes, more then their share of dickheads, drug and alcohol users, domestic abusers, young people who just dont give a shit about authority or school, but many fine people. You just dont come into contact with these fine people and there is a reason for that. I also found more then what I wanted to find in corrupt alderman, corrupt and racist police commanders ( yes black racists) who seemed to be on the side of the gangs who owned some of the large nightclubs and the alderpersons who also allowed corruption to continue. If these police commanders would have been aggressive in shutting down many of these bars and lounges and corrupt business, things would have been much better in these districts. I say try to keep a clear head about what you do and who you do it for. There are good people in these districts, maybe they dont speak out, they sure are afraid, but they need good cops to help them. Maybe they dont have the clear cut social values that you have or the education or the finances, but they sure could use the help and will continue to need the help.
5/02/2013 06:00:00 PM
Amen brother. I grew up in Englewood and I was living there when my old man became the police. The kids played with me but their slightly older brothers/cousins hated my pops and would spit on his car and dent it rocks when he wasn't around. I grew up in Englewood, going to Lutheran school, and playing AYSO soccer in the summers. Then I end up following dad and becoming the police myself. You will lose when you treat all the people in ghetto districts the same. A lot of those kids are on a thin line where they can be on any side in ten years: hating the police and/or becoming the police. I always remember what it was like for me when I was a kid and how I thought about police. My dad was a cop but it didn't stop me from having a few unpleasant encounters with Chicago's finest but thank God for the officers that worked in my school and the ones I dealt with that turned out to be parents of my classmates etc. You can't peg the whole ghetto as the same but get mad when they peg all of us as the same. And if you ever LIVE in a ghetto district you can understand why they distrust police just like if they become police they understand why you distrust them. I come with an olive branch when possible but the rod is always on ready to follow up and finish the job that diplomacy cannot.
Isn't Roseland the same place where President Sparklefarts was so successful as a "community organizer"?
Does anybody from 005 even remember this guy?
Actually it was Woodlawn, you got the right idea it's all the same nonsense.
H.R. Memo said...
Hire more Police.
Hire More Police.
Hire More Police.
5/02/2013 04:12:00 PM
More VRI.
More VRI.
More VRI.
Anonymous said...
I know this is off topic and I apologize. But could you please post something about the status of medical insurance for retirees. Basically retirees have to understand unless there is an injunction or some other court action they will have no insurance effective 30 Jun 13. From the city's prospective they have included this by casually mentioning it in various mailings about health coverage. If nothing else retirees should begin the leg work researching alternatives to the city coverage. The VP of the pension board which is also the City Treasurer as much as said this at the pension board meeting on 30 Apr 13. This according to the president of the Dets Assoc. The president of the pension board and the retirees representative to the board has remained mute on the subject. Additionally, a lawyer Krislov and Assoc. that represented the plaintiffs in the original Korshak case is requesting those interested in having him plead their case,to fill out a form allowing him to represent them. He has suggested establishing a "warchest" fund that would be returned to each individual if not necessary. I think its important to get the word out and I hope you will help. Thanks much, keep up the good work.
You would think between the pension board, the FOP and the city they would be able to get some information out regarding what is going to be done and what the process will be. Are they in negotiations? are talks scheduled and if it all ends on June 30,2013 will the city give a grace period and can FOP find a supplemental policy for the retirees. They have a dental policy the FOP negotiated for thew retirees
5/02/2013 05:33:00 PM
Email me and I will forward what I have, police@cxq.com
I sent SCC the .pdf files from Krislov law firm, for reasons not known to me, they chose not to post it on the blog site.
Krislov wants to file an injunction and is asking for donations to defray legal expenses. Krislov was the lawfirm that filed, and won, the Korshak decision.
They are the ONLY ones doing anything regarding health care for retireess and I agree with you, no one is doing anything except Krislov. They are the only ones who can represent us. FOP does not have standing. neither does Pension Board.
It is Krislov or nothing. So I will forward the info to whoever wants it. There is a letter from Krislov, an explanation, a letter of direction and a request to sent a check. he would like a war chest of $100,000 to help with legal expenses. Not too difficult considering there are 6,000 or so retirees.
So this appears to be the last gasp time, if Krislov fails to obtain an injunction we retirees will have ZERO health care coverage come July 1.
There is a possibility that those who are under a contract that specifies free health care until Medicare age might continue with their healh insurance, I don't know.
My wife has coverage from her job, otherwise I would be left with nothing.
This is no joke and is definitely a serious situation.
Do NOT depend on FOP or the Pension Board to handle things, they will not and cannot.
I will forward what I have, send an email to police@cxq.com
I will send back a .pdf file, print it out and make your decision.
Stockholm Syndrom ---->>>>"I am retired and felt a lot better about Chicago when Richie ran the show and Jody was the man in charge "
Where's those damn snitch boxes at?
Commenter asking about Medel Lagoon;what was shape of lagoon and why?
To commenter saying there are some good people living in bad neighborhoods. You sound like someone who takes the time to think things through. Nice comment.
There is absolutely too much crying on this job. If you can't handle working in the 'hood quit. You chose to be on CPD. You didn't choose Wilmette,Glencoe, Highland Park,or any place else. STFU and be the police
Says the officer in the ivory tower.
OT Did anyone notice how Seattle police copied the CPD tactic of using the bike patrol to control the May day demonstrators?
5/02/2013 08:27:00 PM
Get over yourself bikeboy. Common sense tactics. Nothing new in the art of war, just different toys.
I saw some transient youth screaming, getting in the face of, and trying to fight people at about 8pm on State Street Thursday night. No idea if any wilding occurred, I had my laptop on me (which I NEVER DO) and wanted to keep it in my possession.
hey 5/02/2013 08:27:00 PM
we copied the crowd control bicycle tactics from Miami
Isn't Roseland the same place where President Sparklefarts was so successful as a "community organizer"?
Does anybody from 005 even remember this guy?
Actually it was Woodlawn, you got the right idea it's all the same nonsense.
5/02/2013 10:26:00 PM
Well, does anybody from 003 or 021 remember him?
Anonymous said...
There is absolutely too much crying on this job. If you can't handle working in the 'hood quit. You chose to be on CPD. You didn't choose Wilmette,Glencoe, Highland Park,or any place else. STFU and be the police
Says the officer in the ivory tower.
5/02/2013 11:37:00 PM
Says the officer who chose to take the job. If you think it's better someone else then go there. You sound like the proverbial domestic. Always calling the police ,but never leaves.
Good for Tina , there is life after CPD .
5/02/2013 04:07:00 PM
Even with all her education, she was nothing more than a clouted asshole. She seemed okay as a po and a youth officer, but once she started making rank, she jumped to the dark side. She will not be missed.
They are the ONLY ones doing anything regarding health care for retireess and I agree with you, no one is doing anything except Krislov. They are the only ones who can represent us. FOP does not have standing. neither does Pension Board.
Pension board must have something to do with the case. They pay like 12% of the monthly health premiums, the city 50% and the retiree the remaining. Because of that they have to be involved
Off Topic but only in Illinois !!
Judge OKs release Illinois man charged with terror...
And I,cannot carry a gun !?
He reconsidered after an appeal and the fool will remain locked up
113and NORMAL? Oxymoron!
Anonymous said...
There is absolutely too much crying on this job. If you can't handle working in the 'hood quit. You chose to be on CPD. You didn't choose Wilmette,Glencoe, Highland Park,or any place else. STFU and be the police
Says the officer in the ivory tower.
5/02/2013 11:37:00 PM
Says the officer who chose to take the job. If you think it's better someone else then go there. You sound like the proverbial domestic. Always calling the police ,but never leaves.
5/03/2013 09:59:00 AM
OK internet tough guy, I highly doubt you're the police. Get back in your mom's basement you fucking handjob. By the way troll, try proof reading or grammar correct before hitting send next time.
Anonymous said...
They are the ONLY ones doing anything regarding health care for retireess and I agree with you, no one is doing anything except Krislov. They are the only ones who can represent us. FOP does not have standing. neither does Pension Board.
Pension board must have something to do with the case. They pay like 12% of the monthly health premiums, the city 50% and the retiree the remaining. Because of that they have to be involved
5/03/2013 12:28:00 PM
No they do not. They have no say whatsoever if health insurance stops or continues. They are waiting to see what the City does. Really. They are administrators only, not decision makers. They are not in court fighting. They cannot.
They are not involved. Pension Board told me to call Benefits Management for questions on retiree health care! That is the dumbest response I ever heard.
Anonymous said...
They are the ONLY ones doing anything regarding health care for retireess and I agree with you, no one is doing anything except Krislov. They are the only ones who can represent us. FOP does not have standing. neither does Pension Board.
Pension board must have something to do with the case. They pay like 12% of the monthly health premiums, the city 50% and the retiree the remaining. Because of that they have to be involved
5/03/2013 12:28:00 PM
Do the research like I did and find out. You will be shocked, as I was.
Unless there is an injunction from the courts or Rahm decides to be a real nice fellow, those without contracual wording in the contract when they retired (over 60, 55 and out) will have no health insurance come July 1, 2013.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
There is absolutely too much crying on this job. If you can't handle working in the 'hood quit. You chose to be on CPD. You didn't choose Wilmette,Glencoe, Highland Park,or any place else. STFU and be the police
Says the officer in the ivory tower.
5/02/2013 11:37:00 PM
Says the officer who chose to take the job. If you think it's better someone else then go there. You sound like the proverbial domestic. Always calling the police ,but never leaves.
5/03/2013 09:59:00 AM
OK internet tough guy, I highly doubt you're the police. Get back in your mom's basement you fucking handjob. By the way troll, try proof reading or grammar correct before hitting send next time.
5/03/2013 08:07:00 PM
Sounds like you've been crying a whole bunch.
11:10 PM. Lagoon was in the shape of a "P" which stood for Pullman Tech. That was name of school before Mendel.
Get over yourself bikeboy. Common sense tactics. Nothing new in the art of war, just different toys.
5/02/2013 11:42:00 PM
Common sense tactics? Then why didnt you come up with this ? CPD was the first in the country to use this crowd control tactic which is now being copied world wide. I am not saying McCarthy thought it up, for I have no idea who did, but CPD is the first major city to use it. I guess haters like you just will never give credit where credit is due, except to yourself.
Amen brother. I grew up in Englewood and I was living there when my old man became the police. The kids played with me but their slightly older brothers/cousins hated :
I made the original comment. I am a retired cop, white who was born and raised in Englewood and saw it go down hill. I held a lot of anger for many years but education and working in these areas helped me to understand better what was going on. I blame the corrupt police commanders and alderman for much of what happened . Cant speak to the police commanders now as I am retired over 11 years. But, I sure can tell lots of stories of the black district commanders and dep chiefs on the south side back in my day and a few on the west side. I will repeat my comments: keep your head screwed on straight and keep a good perspective what what you are doing and the people who live in these shithole districts who need your help. As the 2nd commentator added, there are lots of young people who are on the edge of turning and maybe there is something you can do to help keep that from occuring. God Bless all of those who still roll out of the district parking lots every day, day after day. It takes a toll on you and you will realize that soon enough.
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