Another Idiot
- A veteran Chicago police sergeant mired in personal debt was arrested Monday on a charge that he attempted to extort a West Side liquor store employee by offering to look up police reports, license plates and other information in exchange for cash.
"You gotta get amnesia, you know, forget about it," Ray M. Ramirez, 49, a Monroe District patrol sergeant, was quoted by the FBI as saying in a conversation captured on audio and video recordings shortly after he allegedly pocketed one $200 payoff last month.
Ramirez, who has been with the department since 1986, was charged in a 20-page criminal complaint with attempted extortion. He appeared in court dressed in an athletic T-shirt and sweatpants and was freed on a signature bond by U.S. Magistrate Judge Maria Valdez.
Ramirez's court-appointed attorney, Michael Leonard, noted after the brief court hearing that the main witness had been paid more than $22,000 as an FBI informant in the past five years. The complaint stated that the worker had cooperated not just for the financial reasons but also in part because of his "patriotism."
"I think it's a bunch of malarkey," Leonard said. "(Ramirez) has been nothing but a good officer for over 20 years."
Malarkey? Actually, it's the lawyer spouting bullshit. Ramirez has had a bad rep on this site for years, asking fellow officers and supervisors for "loans" that he never repaid and probably never had any intention of repaying. There were case reports generated and Complaint Register numbers obtained.
In any event, another black eye for the Department
Labels: corruption
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
88 Comments:
100 to 1 , he was one of cpd's finest , best and brightest merit promoted sergeants .
That fat ass tried to get money from me, I told him to go scratch, you make more then me Sgt. Loser!!!!!
We'll be reading about more goofs like this in the future. That's what happens when people get accustomed to the easy cash and living like there's no tomorrow. People do stupid things when they're desperate. Quit living beyond your means people and the thought will never cross your mind of how to make a quick buck. There's always a few that go out and make that big purchase when they get that retro check, tax return or VRI check that they think will never end. 27+ years on the job, many at D3 pay and doesn't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. LOSER. And don't go to bat for him with the regular bullshit story of bad divorce(s), housing market, etc, etc. This guy is a fuck up plain and simple and it finally caught up to him. $200 to be a snitch for some Arab liquor store owners? HAHAHAHAHA !!!!! Fuck you, dummy.
way to throw away a career and a sergeants pension.
Count me in among untold (likely) dozens that loaned Ray money when his marriage went kaput. Of course, he was gonna pay me back, but never did. He never returned the calls I made to him inquiring about when he was going to pay me back, and after a couple of tries, I stopped calling. It was worth the amount I loaned him to know that he would never have the guts to ever reach out to me for anything else.
Even with Ray being a mooch, I can't help but feel sorry for the guy. He's never really ever hurt anyone in all the years he's been a cop, except for himself. What a way to destroy your career and likely lose your freedom; just when you're about to pull the pin and walk away. If some people didn't have bad luck, they'd have no luck at all.
Strip him of his PENSION!!!!!!!!!
Another Clouted Idiot Who thought he was God's gift
Who's his clout?
Thank you feds. This guy is a bum. I advertised an apartment.for rent. Discount and no security deposit for CPD and CFD. This tenant caused $15,000 worth of damage, stopped paying rent, moved in dogs a ghetto girlfriend and caused my homeowners insurance to go up to over $5000 per year. He even owed over $4000 in parking tickets. No plates, city sticker or permit parking sticker. He would even drive his 13th district squad home to the 17th to meet his dog washer on city time.
Enjoy prison buddy.
---mike the city worker
And he sucked as a home room instructor at the Academy too!
this belongs with the post above it another protected clout baby has been his whole career
This should shock nobody who's heard about this goof and his antics.
He was an embarrassment to the job back when he worked public housing. Dirty, sneaky, always seemed to be on bullshit and lets not forget about his dates in the squad cars. Adios Amigo
Justice needs to be served on this one.
He used his badge to extort money from businesses(allegedly).
If that is the case, give him the max sentence. We complain when criminals get light sentences, those who are sworn to uphold the law should know better AND be held to a higher standard.
This is not a black-eye for the CPD, it is more of a removal of a cancer. This cannot spread or be viewed as "acceptable".
Next case.
I was in 010 when he was a PPO. His FTO recommended that he was not fit to become a PO because he was a coward.
He ran to LAPA and whined that he was being singled out because of his ethnicity and they took up his cause.
He was allowed to stay and became a clout baby sergeant.
Reminds me of a female from 009, M. R.
Same thing, M.R. has had a bad rep in 009 for years, asking fellow officers and supervisors for "loans" that she never repaid and probably never had any intention of repaying. There were case reports generated and Complaint Register numbers obtained.
And nothing ever done, difference is that I don't beleive she has any clout. So, its not someone protecting her, its someone being too incompetent to handle the complaints.
He sold out cheap! Well if he "habla espanol", Ive got a position for him down here. But he cant borrow any $$ from me to get here either...
More clout?
Let's see, merit detective who worked in the old Auto Theft Unit and merit sergeant. A total embarrassment to everyone except his minority clout guy.
LMAO, how did I know who it was after reading the first sentence only?
I would normally be amazed he lasted as long as he had but this is CPD. I wonder how many non-clouted blue shirts got crushed for minor infractions "or innocent" during the time this asshole operated?
If you only knew 1/2 the storys. On the bright side at least his car isnt shot full of holes again.
Nice job FBI you just got the laziest, sloppiest, dumbest fuck in the whole police dept. how about getting his "Merit Sponsor" I know if you can't buy someone or wire some one you can't arrest someone. How about Eric Holder that is one goof that needs to be arrested .
Well looks like the people at call back will be getting asked for "Loans" soon.
He should've worked VRI like all those others in need of cash to live their high priced style.
How about revealing this goofs clout! He was a merit detective and a merit sergeant. Real embarrassment except for the minorities that he represents that is standard. Another cps or is it GED .
.How did this goof make merit sergeant? Is he a college grad? Is he a Rahman guy?, Madigan?
I will gladly have a cheeseburger today and pay you Tuesday. LOL & ROTF
don't let this get you down. its a percentage game. if you have a large enough department, statistics will show a significant number of loafers, clowns, and criminals are in it. CPD is no different than doctors, lawyers, priests, plumbers, businessmen, shop owners etc....Just take pride in yourself, job, your friends and family. lots and lots of good people there.
Please let me lend Ramirez money and then have him not pay. Ramirez as a sgt. that's low. Who voched for him as meritorious sgt? Gotta be LAPA guy, right?
Chicago's exempt sure can select the most aggressive , hard working police officers for merit promotions .
When he was a PPO in 010 he went thru a couple of FTO's who all flunked him.They sent him to a southside district where they found an FTO who would pass him.
Let me guess--merit sergeant?
Is this Ramirez the same fat slob that worked in housing as a Sgt?
Great
Another clout happy boss.
I think of all the really good officers who would have made great supervisors, but they were passed over for the likes of him.
No wonder there is no morale on this department.
Ramirez in an athletic tee shirt? Never in his life! Now Anne Egan will never get her loaned money back!
Normally I'd say the LAPA Eagles would come riding to the rescue but I think big Ray owes to many of them money. Honestly its hard to believe hes even lasted this long. Even on this chickenshit outfit.
Kind of sad in a way tho. No more B-day parties in the station with his latest Love leading the "Happy B-day" song to the chorus of POs, all of whom wondering, "what the fuck are we doing here singing for this motherfucker?"
Another outstanding member of the class of 1986.... most felons to ever graduate came from that class. The result of lowering the standards...
Welcome affirmative action. No one wanted to touch this piece of shit because they were afraid of upsetting minorities. Unfortunately there's quite a few more just as bad as this jagoff.
To the post above who wrote "If some people didn't have bad luck, they'd have no luck at all.". You're an idiot and that's why you were scammed. It's not "bad luck" when you're INTENTIONALLY always running a scam. His old lady was smart to dump his ass years ago , before he dragged down her too.
Remember, this jagoff would have sold your personal and family information to the lowest piece of shit for a sawbuck.
Good riddance.
A bad day for many West Side hookers....
Anonymous said...
And he sucked as a home room instructor at the Academy too!
6/25/2013 01:59:00 AM
And as one of the original CAPS instructors at Daley College in the early 90's.
He was my Sgt in 013 and unfortunately, I was stupid enough to lend him a few bucks. Seemed like a sorry soul. I obviously got burned just like everyone else that came into contact with him.
It is with such pleasure that he got arrested, will lose his job, his pension, and the pitiful life he lead mooching off others and never paying them back.
I can't imagine him being a clout baby because he was such a loser, everybody hated him including the bosses, and he had no one to turn to except his whore girlfriends.
Nobody is sad to see you go Ray Ray!
He could have taken a loan for anyone around 26th st/ Chinatown.......
And his "homey" Judge Valdez
let him out of jail on a
signature bond ? Where is any incentive for him to show-up for court ? Something stinks here.
and he was promoted to Sgt? Says something about our promotional system
Was our Patrolsmens Credit Union asleep at the switch on this one?. $148,000 loan to this deadbeat, nobody knew anything.
He must have been behind on payments, now my guess is even if you go to court on a bankrupcy case and win, you are only going to get pennies back on the dollar.
Question, if you fall behind on payments to the credit union cant they garnish your check? lien on pension have any recourse. I hear conflicting stories on the garnishing
Nothing uglier than a dirty cop in a crime ridden and corrupt city called Chicago. Chicago is now considered the most dangerous city on the planet. Quite an honor that the dumbocrats have let this once great city and state become.
Wow how easy it's to turn our back on Brother in Need!
Back in the old days 25 years ago , we the real police would never treat any copper like this! This police Department has turned into a apple sauce with a few ,who
have no business on this job .
Was this the heavy-set guy who was an instructor at the academy and worked in PHS Unit 715 for a bit?
The bottomless pit never ceases to produce!!
When he was in 010 he was just known as Fat Ray. Useless, blew off calls, never even close to his beat/sector. The watch handled his calls cuz he was "just about to ask for lunch" somewhere far, far away.
Fatass piled up a fairly new squad car one bright, snowy morning and when the Sgt asked him what happened, he said he was chasing a traffic violator in an icy alley. The sgt went to the scene and found a Bell Telephone lineman up on a ladder in the same alley. She asked him if he'd seen anything and the IBT guy says he was up on the ladder and saw the whole thing.....minus the supposed "pursuit." Mr Witness said he saw fatboy driving too fast, losing control on ice and nailing a fence and a brick garage. When she confronted him with the outcome of her investigation, he tried to repeat his lies but she told him if he didn't come clean, she'd bone him on false official report. Fat Ray finally admitted he drove too fast, lost control and was sent to Peak Performance Driving.
Story after story about him and all the same thing: bullshit lie after bullshit lie. When we heard he got promoted to Sergeant, none of us could believe it.
Typical CPD command: the bigger the fuck-up you are the higher up the ladder you go.
I agree Ray is a POS, he was a dog Sgt and I laughed when I read it, promoted merit Sgt. Always Late, never gave shit about the job. One Time he embarrassed a whole team, ate lunch for free, ordered pizza to go and leaves the girl a dollar tip. Thank God we threw in to cover her, he ate all the time for free. Had a ghetto girl who would call and say ray in hospital needs money. enjoy Jail time. But stand up CPD brothers will never testify against you and that out fit he wore in court is his only one. LMOA.
Wow! The media is bad enough about painting us guilty until proven innocent. Easy, guys!!!
I've taken most of the day thinking about how to reply to this. I don't believe that this gives the Department another black eye at all. All this shows me is that it took a man that could have held his head up high at one time to show what exactly good men are made of,
but instead he decided to show everyone ( wife, especially kids if he has any) that someone they were once proud of now gets scraped off the bottom of the shoes of the entire Department.
The Sun Times conveniently omitted the fact that Ray Ray habitually put the arm on PO's for money. Gotta make us all look like a bunch of assholes during contract negotiations.
Hold the boss who put him in for merit accountable also.
Another Great CPD Leader
We are the laughing stock
This is typical behavior we all heard about. When is that gambling goofy Captain in 007 going down for the same antics???
He probably stole from the coffee fund jar too.
And he sucked as a home room instructor at the Academy too!
6/25/2013 01:59:00 AM
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Wow, that really is scary and pathetic. Was he a fat ass back then too?
....and there were plenty of guys that back slapped him, had lunch with him and treated him right. Suckers!
He is some advice this Country sorely needs: If a guy is a jagoff, treat him like a jagoff. This air of forgiveness is going to bury us.
I am sick of medical roll abusers, guys that act like assholes and give us a bad name and out in out goofs that people on this job treat well. That goes for the politicians too. Spit on them.
Anonymous said...
A bad day for many West Side hookers....
6/25/2013 10:36:00 AM
Nah.Its not like he was paying them...
I learned right away that anyone that asks for a "loan" on this job who didn't have a tragic sickness is usually a degenerate loser.
He's full of shit like the cars he shit on. He was a disgusting pig with no shame an honor. What a shit head.
Craig,thanks for getting rid of this asshole although I wish it was the CPD that did it. Tell the boys we appreciate it.
Sad,pitiful,disgrace of a human being,let alone a police officer!
end his pension Another Drain on our system
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Once a jagoff always a jagoff. So close to the end and he blew it.
Who's the dumb lawyer that took his case, he'll never get paid?
Typical CPD command: the bigger the fuck-up you are the higher up the ladder you go.
6/25/2013 01:34:00 PM
That, my friend, is called The Peter Principle. You rise to your level of your incompetence.
It's a phenomenological nightmare for hardworking, conscientious employees everywhere.
---not a cop
I dont consider this a black eye for our dept at all. This guy was a cancer who was a crook. Its good to purge our dept of goofs like this
To the guy who made the comment about media being bad enough, u obviously didn't know or work for this major piece of shit!!! He's guilty!!!! I was one of the many he tried borrowing hundreds of dollars from but was not dumb enough to give it to him. Ask the people who rented apartments to him that he stopped paying the rent to, then would threaten them because he's a sgt and felt they owed him and told them such. Ask him about the time he shit in a squad car and left it for the next sgt to deal with. It's about time his ass got caught, he deserves it and hope he gets put away for a long time. Rot in hell Ray Ray!!!!
This is typical behavior we all heard about. When is that gambling goofy Captain in 007 going down for the same antics???
6/25/2013 04:11:00 PM
i agree.. a crook and a loud mouth who thinks he is untouchable.
I've taken most of the day thinking about how to reply to this. I don't believe that this gives the Department another black eye at all. All this shows me is that it took a man that could have held his head up high at one time to show what exactly good men are made of,but instead he decided to show everyone ( wife, especially kids if he has any) that someone they were once proud of now gets scraped off the bottom of the shoes of the entire Department.
Unlike you I didnt spend one minute thinking about what this idiot did. Nothing to analyze.
Signature bond in federal court? Ray ray must be snitching on somebody or something else. That's the M.O. for everyone who gets a signature bond from federal court.
IAD had him years ago in Housing but incompetent investigators and clout allowed him to walk
Nothing but the cream of the crop thanks to merit promotions !
Sad, when you're caught up like Ray is, and not one poster has anything positive to say here about you.
Reminds me of Quentin Garland in 015 many years
ago; nice enough fellow, but owed everyone there
$10.00 until he pissed hot. Big surprise!!!
Benny wants to know if he has the golden ticket?
Yet another reason to get rid of merit promotions. Out the clout who put his name in. This should be transparent .... All merit promotions should list the sponsor or sponsors.
boys and girls go out and write some movers and parkers be the police Ray Ray never was the police.
I've taken most of the day thinking about how to reply to this. I don't believe that this gives the Department another black eye at all. All this shows me is that it took a man that could have held his head up high at one time to show what exactly good men are made of,but instead he decided to show everyone ( wife, especially kids if he has any) that someone they were once proud of now gets scraped off the bottom of the shoes of the entire Department.
Unlike you I didnt spend one minute thinking about what this idiot did. Nothing to analyze.
6/25/2013 09:26:00 PM
I do not work for Department, nor do know anyone that does. All I was trying to do was let a good Police Department know that just because you've had your share of idiots, and have been kicked because of it not all of us blame the department as a whole. OK?
I remember working in old 013 and pops for 50 cents were in a fridge in the WC office. One day the pop was all gone and we were informed someone took all of the paper bills out of the can with the money so that was ruined.
I wouldn't be surprised...
Reminds me of Quentin Garland in 015 many years
ago; nice enough fellow, but owed everyone there
$10.00 until he pissed hot. Big surprise!!!
6/25/2013 11:20:00 PM
never loan more than what you're willing to give.
@6/26/2013 02:57:00 PM
Maybe it should be:
" Never loan more than what you can afford to lose when you don't get paid back."
I found this out the hard way with a woman who was a non-sworn employee of ISP.
Ended up taking her to court but only got a small amount of the total paid back.
You know who you are M.H.T.
Retired Ol' Sixgun Sarge
all i want to know is when is the benefit
Signature bond in federal court? Ray ray must be snitching on somebody or something else. That's the M.O. for everyone who gets a signature bond from federal court.
6/25/2013 10:08:00 PM
ding ding ding ding! We have a winner. Was approached by the feds months ago and ray new about the indictment but is about to try and save his own skin.
What could he possibly tell the Fed's? He knows nothing about nothing. Combine that with the fact that no one else us doing anything wrong and wouldn't include Lil RayRay in on it if they were, what value to the Fed's could this idiot be?
No sir, Sgt Jabba de Hut isn't doing any talking abut anyone. He may be filling the Fed's ears with stuff he's making up but thats about it.
He's just a big,fat asshole that stole money from his co-workers including taking money from the watch commanders water fund defecated inside a squad car and left it for the next watch to deal with, lied on a report during a CR investigation which jammed up a patrolman in 013 because he was afraid of another POS watch commander when she intimidated him as well as other things that while not illegal, would embarrass a normal person.
Fuck him.
Maybe it should be:
" Never loan more than what you can afford to lose when you don't get paid back."
I found this out the hard way with a woman who was a non-sworn employee of ISP.
Ended up taking her to court but only got a small amount of the total paid back.
You know who you are M.H.T.
Retired Ol' Sixgun Sarge
6/26/2013 05:47:00 PM
peace of mind is the gift you give yourself.
To the guy who wrote "back in the old days 25 years ago, we the real police wouldn't treat a copper like this", your brains must be made of apple sauce. You and "the real police" from 25 years ago are the reason that we have to deal with all the political correct shit we have today, i.e., cameras in the cars, swiping in and out of work etc. I think you get my point. You are a moron and the sooner the Dept dissolves itself from you and the other "real police" from your era that conduct themselves like this jackass sgt, the better off the rest of us will be.
Eddie---good to hear from you. How are things down there?
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