016 Up For Grabs
Anywhere else, most residents would be up in arms wondering what the heck happened. But way up north, where taxes are high and police coverage is scarce, not even a whimper from the aldrecreatures whose wards go unpatrolled and uncovered:
- Two people were shot about 1 a.m. [Saturday morning] in the 5800 block of West Irving Park Road in the Portage Park neighborhood on the Northwest Side. A 21-year-old was shot in the leg and a 22-year-old was grazed in the abdomen, Chicago Police Department News Affairs [...] said. The older refused medical treatment at the scene and the younger was taken to Mount Sinai Hospital in stable condition.
- A 4-year-old girl was shot and seriously hurt on the Northwest Side in one of three shootings across the city that left eight people injured overnight, authorities said.
The first shooting happened shortly about 10:25 p.m., as the girl, Shyla Rivera, and four others sat inside a silver Nissan Altima in the Portage Park neighborhood, according to police.
[...] That vehicle moved over and proceeded north on Central ahead of the Altima, according to preliminary police reports. But as the Altima approached Cullom Avenue, about three blocks north of the intersection, the other car came alongside and a passenger leaned out the window with a gun and fired several shots at the Altima. After the shooting, the offenders' car continued north and turned east at Montrose Avenue, about two blocks away.
One bullet struck the girl in the hip; two others, ages 17 and 20, were also hit by gunfire, according to police. One of them is the girl's brother, police said.
So that's five people shot in less than two days in what is supposedly one of the nicer parts of town. A district so nice that half the police department lives there along with over a third of the fire department and easily as many other city workers.
We've heard numbers from people who know that 016 fields something like 6 cars on some nights and occasionally less than that. Any of our northwest side readers want to comment? All those taxes to watch your entire neighborhood sink into oblivion?
We've heard numbers from people who know that 016 fields something like 6 cars on some nights and occasionally less than that. Any of our northwest side readers want to comment? All those taxes to watch your entire neighborhood sink into oblivion?
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
200 Comments:
There ain't no nicer parts of town left. Chicago is wide open. Don't let your guard down no matter where you travel in this town. And drive slow because the cameras are watching you.
There could be 85 murders a day in 016 & they'd have the same police coverage, & not even a SAT team redirected.
Gee, with all those legally armed people living in 016, you'd think....ah, never mind.
And atleast 15 shootings were prevented by dumping all the man power on the south and west sides so in reality the crime rate still went down. As sad and retarded as that sounds, that is exactly how the city thinks! Crime in your nice neighborhood goes up 10% but in the shit undeserving areas it goes down 25% we are still down 15%. Flawed numbers game logic yes but still a reduction none the less. And nothing will change until the deserving people stand up and yell and scream like the rev's and activists!
They are down on average 3 cars per night which is at a minimum 6 officers... I know this because they call us for additional manpower occasionally.... And the district has some of the laziest and goofiest police you would never hope to meet working midnights...better off not calling for help and handling it yourself.
On average 16 is short cars 6 out of 7 days. One day last week, all cars were manned with two rapid cars. the most I seen in over 5 months. BTW it was a Tuesday !
Strict gun laws help deter gun crimes eh? Change the top 25% that lead every dept of the city and county only then we may still have a chance not to become the next detroit.
As a citizen: I have attended meetings, called aldermen, signed petitions, I am active with my kids school and at the park, and I've called the police. More people need to get involved or else it becomes another neighborhood where people are now too scared to get involved.
Yeah they are too busy giving 60 year old relatives of p.o.'s anov's for talking on their cell phones
the alderman,excuse me...aldercrook,john arena is a useless moron and he could care less about this kind of stuff.arena wont even fix the potholes down around 6000 N,because its not going to be in his newly realigned ward.
It's very simple. Take all the police and put them on the south and west sides and the rats will go where there is no resistance. Then you'll have witnesses who play for the cameras by saying this never happens here. When will they learn?
The majority of people in 016 do not vote. Hence the democratic machine that is northeastern illinois. This also means that zero attention will be payed to that area even after a spike in crime. All that being said, I've heard quite a few horror stories of off duty po's calling 911, identifying themselves, said identification being in the ticket, and 60 minutes or more was the response times. All I hear from most po's in 016 is "ya get tired of everyone saying btw, so and so is my uncle or so and so is my brother". Fuck you. Nowhere else in the city should you remember more than in 016 that you serve taxpayers. It should be an honor to you to help out other po's and their families. Clearly you don't wanna deal with the demon or you wouldn't be where you are. So what is it you do wanna do? I can understand dogging it in areas of the city that don't pay taxes. And don't tell me they were in a rap. They go months without seeing one of those. I've also heard good stories and I'm not trying to paint everyone with the same stroke, but the bad outnumber the good. Anyway, that's my vent.
Why bother. The "mayo", the "supe" and other figure heads don't live here and don't care. If it isn't the ghetto south or ghetto west, we don't get shit up here. The aldergoof of the 41st ward doesn't even like to speak in public. She's an idiot and I didn't vote for her. How many big bosses for our city live in 016 and we still get the highest taxes and least service.
Move out if that shithole. Soon. Do it for your family.
The officers that are assigned to 016 need to start doing their job. Jk and some of the other useless goofs on tact, put the cigarette down and leave the piss bums alone. Start going after the animals who are now in 016
Detroit
listen-fool.
Rahm Emmanuel said he is for all neighborhoods and all residents.
If you believe this elected official as your Alderman is a believer than all is well in your neighborhood.
You are getting a taste of shots fired, man with a gun, person shot, squad order up the crime lab for this one, Units in 016 and on City-wide we are getting.....
Get use to it or move out of your former "Gods Country" , and "where the grass is greener".
Lets see I pay all these high price taxes to live on the northside to be away from all these shit heads, and I still get them. WTF!?!? Mount Greenwood here I come.
I'm a few miles east, 1700 near Irving Park, but close enough to comment. Why aren't we up in arms? Easy: it didn't happen; can't have happened: it doesn't fit the narrative!
Where's 45th Ward Alderman Arena?
He's a Portage park guy and Emanuel's chosen lackey.
Section 8's a bitch.
This is all part of their grand plan. Take the thugs amassed in crime-ridden neighborhoods and spread them around to non-thug areas; At the law-abiding tax-payer's expense to boot, such a deal. Then in a few years 'crime is down in the worst neighborhoods'. Right, but now it's all over the damn city, county, and state.
Granted every single area that once was safe will be a stinking crap hole. But hey it's The Fair Thing To Do! YOU shouldn't be better off than anyone else or be able to feel safer or have a nicer house or better schools, or even a cell phone: 'it isn't 'right'.
So y'all get your minds right and jump on the Leftist Slogan bandwagon: 'Income Inequality' -- 'Spread The Wealth Around' -- 'Don't Be A Hater' -- 'Desegregate Crime' -- 'End Racial Profiling' -- 'They Have Rights Too' -- 'Tax The Rich' -- 'Institutional Racism' -- 'Bangers On Every Block' (oops, forget that one) Yada, yada, yada. Bullshit.
::: I saw the end coming 'a few years back' during Taste when a Gangbanger's bullet went flying through the window of a tourist's room at the Midland Hotel. The next day King Richie II said to the press (paraphrasing), 'Gang members have families too and should be able to enjoy the lake front'. WTF! He surrendered every nice area remaining to the fucking Gangs. :::
It's true 016 has virtually no police on 1st watch and the savage knows it. We as residents need to make a lot of noise about this issue. Call the alderman's office everyday and give them an ear full. Better yet arm yourself and kill the animals if the opportunity arises.
There was also a vehicular hijacking on Central and Addison by Res hospital last week. Its getting pretty bad!
And who do you actually complain to? When I have called the Alderman's office - Mary O'Conner's female secretary told me on more than 1 occasion that there is most certainly enough police patrolling 016 because the alderman speaks with the Commander of 016 almost every day. The Alderman's male secretary just tells you "yeah, ok, I'll leave the Alderman a message" because he can't rush you off the phone fast enough.
Look what happened to the last commander of 016 for complaining about lack of man power - McStupor moved him to 008. Do you think any other commanders learned a lesson from that one?
It is only a matter of time until this entire city turns into the 007th District, but at least then we would have a lot of police coverage.
Mayor Emanuals three broken promises
1. Safe Streets
2. Better Schools
3. More jobs
Time to elect a new Mayor
Chicago sucks. It's doomed. It got a second-wind during the Housing scam, but it will return to it's 1968 days within 5 years. There is nothing preventing it and the suburbs are catching-on to the HUD redistribution-of-scum program.
You can't force people to pay taxes if they move, and you cant force the state of illinois to continue supporting it. If the answer is a federalized district bound by the expressways, then maybe. But who is going to live there? Get out while you can. This is Obama's city now - he owns it's people lock stock and barrell, and he's comin' back home sooner or later to rule the federal city. The new Capital.
Damn! Looks like 16 may need a violence march!
A blip in the stats of 016. Most of the city would move there if they could afford to. The bigger problem of 016 is the overall lack of initiative by the officers assigned there to want to be the real police.
We have to take police resources away from the tax paying areas to give the high crime ghetto areas. Is it technically stealing from taxpayers, yes. But the reverends in the ghetto will be complaining and marching if we don't. Then it becomes a civil right issue and they file lawsuits.
- Garry M
Get the fuck out as soon as you can coppers. Positive change is never gonna come. That's a big part of why 200,000 citizens have fled that shithole. I left last year and couldn't be happier. But remember, if you do flee, drive under the speed limit or the mayor you voted for will hammer you one more time with a speed camera ticket.
Hah !
One shooting is far too many, and it is troubling how close the beast is getting to the door. However I can truly say that I see a beat car patrolling on my block and usually in my alley every day. On the one occasion that I actually had to call for service, I got an excellent response. The guys and gals in 016 are doing a great job for which I thank them.
701 coward "BIG AL" went into the watch commanders office in tears, and told the Lt, he was scared to work the streets, go hide at midway you piece of shit!!What a way to leave the dept!!!
Tact is so busy writting parking violations/expiered plates on cars that are parked on private property.
Portage and Cragin are already fucked, and bangers all around Jeff Park. Yeah, it's not Humboldt yet, but not too far off. I'm sure there are more coppers in that area. 41st ward aldercreature. Has she ever voted against Rahm? NEVER
Anonymous said...
As a citizen: I have attended meetings, called aldermen, signed petitions, I am active with my kids school and at the park, and I've called the police. More people need to get involved or else it becomes another neighborhood where people are now too scared to get involved.
8/13/2013 12:43:00 AM
You want to be involved? Vote your alder thief out.
The status quo has got to go!
As a P.O. In 016 I can say that everyday there are those of us that go out there and do what needs to be done. Sure lots of rants on here about "oh they work there and aren't the real police blah,blah,blah. Seriously a pretty good number of us worked in shitholes and playedn"chase homie" for many years and lets face it it gets old. I'll apologize on behalf of the guys who would never ANOV or ticket a family member no matter how shitty they are to us...yeah talk to your loved ones about their attitudes when their only saving grace is being a relative. Oh and the off duty P.O.'s who call and demand crap that they'd NEVER do if they were on duty but because they've been inside someplace haven't had the pleasure of a lawsuit think before asking /demanding the ridiculous. Basically everyone should think before slinging a bunch of accusations and hey for all the big talkers PLEASE bid to 016 and apply all that bravado and energy here cleaning the place up because we could use you.
I guess all the officers are to busy to vote or complain to the Alderman!
Welcome to reality.
You either solve the problem or hide in your fancy basement you call your man cave.
I seen a 016th copper writing Parker's the other day all along the quieter section of 016. Glad your here "keeping us safe" and generating revenue for the city from tax paying citizens. We need more people like you.
What can we do? Bitch on this blog? The banana republic we live in that ignores the Constitution and runs government like a third world dictatorship will do what they want to despite complaints from the serfs they keep chained to the land with residency requirements.
The only solution is to leave the state to the savages who vote in their socialist masters.
There was also a vehicular hijacking on Central and Addison by Res hospital last week. Its getting pretty bad!
8/13/2013 05:53:00 AM
The offender is in custody in Indiana for that one. Dude was brought to the hospital from somewhere in 019 for some nonsense and when it was time to leave he had no ride back so he jacked a car. Spotted in Indiana, car chase and crash and in custody.
Call FlOP. Remember... They are fighting for us! SNICKER!
Maybe if north side cops knew how to be the police they wouldn't have that problem. Hahahaha, no one getting shot in Mt Greenwood. Glad you assholes are paying them high taxes up there. Stupid asses.
Get out of Dodge while you can. It's great down here in Florida, but please move to the West coast, I love it here on the East in my quite little fishing town. The Sheriff's Police Deputy's still can chase bad guys, they don't call off chases. Happy, Happy, Happy.
Well maybe if the cop's that live in 016 would all bid to 016 to do some work than maybe it would be different. I hear them all the time bitch and moan but they would never dare leave the ghetto because they are afraid to be stuck on 1st watch up in 016. Oh well its nobodies fault but the cop's that live up there. Quit playing super cop in the ghetto (nobody cares) and go protect your home front.
016 operates most if the time (3 watches) with JUST the primary beat cars manned. That's 12 cars to patrol an area that is reported to be over 30 square miles. Do the math. 30 miles divided by 12 cars averages 2.5 square miles for each beat car to patrol. Lets take it another step. 2.5 square miles is equivalent to an area roughly 16 blocks by 12 blocks. Breaking that down even further 16x12 blocks covers a total of 192 individual blocks per beat car. Multiplying 192 blocks by 20 (my guess as to the average number if houses on a block) has each beat car watching out for 3,840 houses during his tour.
If the beat car next to him is down (lunch, report, etc) he's now watching over 7000 houses.
The numbers may be a little off due to open areas in 016 but you get the idea. There are beats in 016 that are as large as the entire 7th district. The same 7th district that has over 400 coppers assigned along with VRI and area teams nightly. Granted 16 doesn't have the homicides like them but there is less than 200 assigned to 016 now.
The Ald are useless when it comes to asking for manpower. They keep asking if we need more bodies so we can give more coppers time off and that doesn't fly
And don't get me started on the 1watch crew most of them inc the Sgts are in the hole while your house goes unguarded. .
I volunteered to leave my faster district to go to 16 last October because they were so short. Our homes are in good hands. The problem Is they are running so many calls, it's impossible to do any proactive policing.
The minorities wouldnt put up with this lack of services from their gov't. Of course, we're too busy working to go out and protest. We are being racially discriminated against by not getting the same service that other neighborhoods get.....teach your wives and kids how to use a gun safely and effectively, cause when you're not there, they may need to use it.
Oh, there are still cops in 016. We see them pulling over cars all the time in Forest Glen for turning into their own neighborhood between 3 and 6pm. Or going down their own alleys the wrong direction. While garage burglars go wild and the beast is encroaching. They're writing movers to make this city more money.
Anonymous said...
They are down on average 3 cars per night which is at a minimum 6 officers... I know this because they call us for additional manpower occasionally.... And the district has some of the laziest and goofiest police you would never hope to meet working midnights...better off not calling for help and handling it yourself.
8/13/2013 12:38:00 AM
"The squeaky wheel gets the oil." You're going to have to start complaining like it's done in the hood.
I liked living in 016. A lot. If I didn't suspect significantly higher fees/taxes, less government services (public safety included), and more crime coming soon, I'd still be living in the city, and in particular, 016.
Anonymous said...
Lets see I pay all these high price taxes to live on the northside to be away from all these shit heads, and I still get them. WTF!?!? Mount Greenwood here I come.
8/13/2013 03:51:00 AM
Last one is a rotten egg.
I live in the area of Irving and Cumberland. I seem to see more occasions of a Beat car Patrolling the neighborhood. I believe it is because the Officer(s) live in the same area and want to do their best to keep it safe. My gratitude goes to them. I recently retired and I am currently looking for a home some where in Dupage County.I can't leave the state due to Family obligations. That being said, I have been in this 'hood for over 30 yrs and although it is not "Bad",it ain't what it used to be.Thanks for the time to Vent.God Bless the CPD.
Maybe if and since they have cars,ride by the house of you know who and do a pop pop pop and see if he says they should be able to freely go about the city and enjoy,pop pop pop!? If I were a gang banger and I didn't see many police I'd happily go about my job of,robbing pillaging,and destroying the fabric of our neighborhoods!The only thing between them and honest law abiding citizens are the police!
There was also a robbery and battery at the 7/11 on irving park and central last week
Teach your wife (spouse) and older ( late teens and up) to use a shotgun and keep it handy for when you are at work.
I tell my kids and my wife to call 911 and then get the scattergun if jagballs comes into the house, I won't feel bad for calling that company "Aftermath" and then the carpenter or the painter.
Half of the CPD lives in 016, half in 008, and half in 022.
As a citizen: I have attended meetings, called aldermen, signed petitions, I am active with my kids school and at the park, and I've called the police. More people need to get involved or else it becomes another neighborhood where people are now too scared to get involved.
8/13/2013 12:43:00 AM
Like Portage Park.
The shootings have all been in the 38th ward which is Cullerton, I'm in no way a fan of his but he did have this story about the shootings saying they needed more police
@DNAinfoCHI: Alderman calls for more cops, meeting with Rahm after 4-year-old shot http://t.co/PgXZsupnps”
Piece of shit convicted felon and stamp thief former congressman Dan Rostenkowski, now dead, thank god , , ,stole all of the public employees social security.and stuck it right in their ass to this date but when he was alive the Northwest sides, coppers, firemen and city workers alike ll voted or the democratic piece of shit like he was god. Maybe they should not vote for any democrates until they fund our pension and leave it alone
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yeah they are too busy giving 60 year old relatives of p.o.'s anov's for talking on their cell phones
8/13/2013 01:00:00 AM
Hey, I know you. You're the same guy that puts a medallion on each of his kid's cars and expects immunity for their actions, grooming them to be another jaggoff copper's kid.
One of the biggest problems 016 has is that nobody that wants to work still will go there because they don't want to work midnights and have winter furlough until they have at least 15 years on. I know plenty of police, myself included that would go there in a second if it wasn't for those things. Save yourselves the "get some time on the job kid" crap old timers, nobody wants to hear it. Those are some of the real reasons people won't go there. Im just saying..........
Anonymous said...
The majority of people in 016 do not vote. Hence the democratic machine that is northeastern illinois. This also means that zero attention will be payed to that area even after a spike in crime. All that being said, I've heard quite a few horror stories of off duty po's calling 911, identifying themselves, said identification being in the ticket, and 60 minutes or more was the response times. All I hear from most po's in 016 is "ya get tired of everyone saying btw, so and so is my uncle or so and so is my brother". Fuck you. Nowhere else in the city should you remember more than in 016 that you serve taxpayers. It should be an honor to you to help out other po's and their families. Clearly you don't wanna deal with the demon or you wouldn't be where you are. So what is it you do wanna do? I can understand dogging it in areas of the city that don't pay taxes. And don't tell me they were in a rap. They go months without seeing one of those. I've also heard good stories and I'm not trying to paint everyone with the same stroke, but the bad outnumber the good. Anyway, that's my vent.
8/13/2013 01:31:00 AM
I don't believe that the majority of people in 016 don't vote.
Maybe they need to send VRI up to 016.... silly me VRI only gets assigned to the non tax-paying, Link card abusing ghetto.
The sheeple need to wake up and smell the coffee and start holding Rahm and McFailure accountable.
I was a supervisor in 016 a few years back. I can tell you, without question, 016 gets good cops now and then. They are driven out of the district by the goofs. Not just the p.o.s but the supervisors too. There is no room for hard working cops there. Don't believe me? Bid in. Bust your ass, and see how long you last. They will write you up for everything. I know because I was told to hammer good cops until they toed the 016 line. That's why I left. 016 can't change because 016 wont change.
moved in the 6 corners area in dec. 2011. next time i see somebody pulled over for a traffic violation will be the first around here.
local papers police blotter is chock full of strong armed and armed robberies yet crime is down.
mayor goofus on monday said cameras will catch license plates of drive by shooters speeding away.
maybe the lure of free donuts could attract a cop or two around here.
They are down on average 3 cars per night which is at a minimum 6 officers... I know this because they call us for additional manpower occasionally
No coverage in 17 Dsit Saagnash perhaps it will change if MErgie's house get burgeled Sgt Ping Pong would get launched
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/23106471/video-looters-trash-detroit-gas-station
Coming soon...
Anonymous said...
Yeah they are too busy giving 60 year old relatives of p.o.'s anov's for talking on their cell phones.
So your relative can talk on cell phone but I can't, you entitled jag.
Three years ago as a police officer I got pissed. I was angry and so I told various community organizations, city workers, the alderman, reported it to the Northwest Side Lerner Newspapers and other newspapers. Guess what? They all did not care. Nobody cared and the majority told me that I was delusional and this is a great part of the city to live in.
I was flabbergasted. Even in the Northwest Side of Chicago people are apathetic, lazy and in denial.
2015 Remember the date
Why doesn't the commander of 16 straighten all that shit out that's going on out there. Hes the greatest officer that ever lived just ask him.
Unless something happens and I predict it won't, this part of the city is toast. The city doesn't care about the Northwest Side. All they want to do is saturate the south and west sides of Chicago with lots of police so "overall crime rates decline". But what about the nicer areas of the city? Well I guess the city will wait for those neighborhoods to go to shit and then blame it on lack of funding.
These comments are completely incoherent.
a few weeks ago i witnessed a robbery in an alley. i ran a block away to a narc that had a towtruck pulled over but they were too interested in writing the ticket. :/
Worse yet, half the crime in 016 does not get reported.
We have had two break-ins recently and niether called the police, they have just given up.
The two main aldermen in the district, Arena& O'Conner are both just rubber stamps. They do as they are told
Its terrible call 911 and if you get a response from police in less than a half hour you will be so lucky. The thugs know are aware of this also. No car patrols anymore.
Well... How come you guys aren't forming a "Citizens Watch" in 016?
YOu let Rahm get away with shitting on your Police coverage to placate the noisy motherfuckers out West and South.
Why you guys don't start maiming the shitheads trolling YOUR neighborhoods looking to get up in your houses with your wives and children because the shitheads need relief from being over-Policed in THEIR neighborhoods so they come up to 016 "where da Po-Leece lives" to do the fool...
Which is EXACTLY what Rahm wants...
Start maiming and "disappearing" these assholes bent on hurting your families...
For all of you in 016, 017, 025 so you know there's a new public forum that's always looking for new content about the NW side. It's popo friendly and you can use it anonymously. It can always use your personal opinions and insight.:
http://reddit.com/r/greatNWside
time for everyone to boycott jane fonda , oprah winfree , stevie wonder concerts and all others that play race card and did not support our troops in viet nam
You make no noise. You get no service.
Around Touhy and Harlem, we get coverage from Niles and Park Ridge...and we appreciate it! Thanks guys!!!
Carry and Conceal!
Citizens should learn to shoot straight at the bad guys!
The Police and the City hall will NOT protect hard working citizens!
We are only look at as REVENUE!
This is the result of our dirty democratic/ communist politicians letting all the illegals stay here. These 3rd world pricks move in to nice white neighborhoods, swarm in and run it down to the ground like a swarm of locust.and now its 016 turn unfortunately. Johnnie Balls
This is a crock. Asshat Jesse Jackass Jr should not get to choose his prison, but I expect he will get what he wants given this system. Burge, Madoff, and him can all play hopscotch together.
http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-77006684/
"""Take all the police and put them on the south and west sides and the rats will go where there is no resistance."""
They've been doing this forever. Why do you think they're stealing iPhones on Michigan Ave, on the red line stops near DePaul, etc? No one is walking around with iPhones at 63/Ashland except for cops.
Pay $2.25, take a nap while you head north, get off anywhere north of about Roosevelt, punch the first white kid you see, then you've got yourself a free iPhone.
i'm still pissed that they want to put up speed cameras here instead of addressing a growing crime problem. I suppose robbing us blind is not only the thugs' job, we need our socialist politicians to do it too.
Resist.
Problem is that Portage Park has three types of residents:
City workers who must live in Chicago.
Polish and Eastern-European Nationals who don't vote, often don't have legal residency, and contributed significantly to the high foreclosure rate. Some even returned to Poland during recession. Go to the Irving Park TJMaxx, announcements are made in Polish.
Hispanic gangbangers relocating from tougher NW-side neighborhoods with their families. Look at stats for Fullerton-North-Pulaski-Cicero area; that's demographic moving northward.
Those same cops also complain when 16th district cops stop their family members who were behaving like asses.
I couldn't afford to move over to Edison Park. Most of those homes are severely outdated and people want top dollar for them. I looked near Portage Park thinking it actually looks somewhat nice over here and we can afford a nicer home. Despite warnings from other coppers and friends, we moved over here. Now, about a year later, I see why. There are just random packs of shit-heads floating all over the area. Free to do what ever the hell they want with minimal police coverage. Then again, same thing could be said about damn near every neighborhood in this SChity. Lift residency and give us a fighting chance at raising a family somewhere decent.
Maybe there needs to be a special patrol like in Marquette park or in roseland in beales ward or the jets. The non taxpayers get it so why not the taxpayers? Even mt Greenwood does their own patrols.
Going, going, gone.
022 isn't too that much better. response time is horrible. you never see the beat cars unless they are getting lunch. 11eddie codes because it takes these assholes 20 minutes to respond.
Hopefully this harsh lesson will get people to learn by their mistakes and vote for J. Garrido the next time he runs against Arena. Until then you people only have yourselves to blame.
Cry me a river....
Hope the 22y/o gets sepsis and dies. All gang related. And the president wants to make laws to ensure the "diversity" continues.
Rhamland get used to it. It will cost you $500 dollars to drive your kid to school after the red light and speed cameras get you. Tuition up the ass because CPs sux .... Property taxes on the way up.... Water bill forget about it and now I have to worry about crime......in 016. Lift the residency rule and let me commute from indianna
6,800 tax bill for a 1700 sq ft house, 125x30 lot, and the only time I see a uniformed officer on the block is when my neighbor decides to take lunch at home. Other then that zilch.
Maybe I should start lighting fireworks off to start getting more calls of service to the area, cause according to the commander of 16, that's the only way we'll get increased police service, call volume into oemc. All the while, more and more shit trickles in with that bs section 8 housing voucher.
6 more years and out of the city...
Up for grabs...officers need to do their jobs,ridiculous,016 is not crime free and crime can and will happen anywhere,including shootings,since we all want to conceal and carry and damn it,stand your ground,all you Zimmermans out there! Everything is not best served with a gun as a solution,you can get more bees with honey than with vinegar,but there are moments where a split decision is made to save your life and your family,but that's a rare occasion unless your the police!
Let us all go to Myer's Beer Stoop in Glenview and discuss this over DAB beer and Turkey Burgers.
City hall and 35th street could care less about 016! They don't care what the Aldermen thinks or wants and they don't care about the citizens living there. There are 50 Aldermen, so what two or three aldermen think or vote doesn't really matter. Rahm still gets his stuff passed because there are plenty of Aldermen left to get his majoriety. Easily!
Manpower is only part of the problem. I have never seen a District Commander treat people worse than this arrogant piece of work
Anonymous said...
Mayor Emanuals three broken promises
1. Safe Streets
2. Better Schools
3. More jobs
Time to elect a new Mayor
8/13/2013 06:25:00 AM
Then it will all be better.
"Maybe if north side cops knew how to be the police they wouldn't have that problem. Hahahaha, no one getting shot in Mt Greenwood. Glad you assholes are paying them high taxes up there. Stupid asses."
You do understand that Portage Park doesn't encompass the entire NW side right?
bring back price or ricchio
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Get out of Dodge while you can. It's great down here in Florida, but please move to the West coast, I love it here on the East in my quite little fishing town. The Sheriff's Police Deputy's still can chase bad guys, they don't call off chases. Happy, Happy, Happy.
8/13/2013 08:18:00 AM
Now that's funny right there. But Florida sucks skunk balls. WAYYY too hot and sticky in the summer.
Remember to put the canopy out on you double-wide .... it might keep you from falling into a sinkhole.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Lets see I pay all these high price taxes to live on the northside to be away from all these shit heads, and I still get them. WTF!?!? Mount Greenwood here I come.
8/13/2013 03:51:00 AM
Last one is a rotten egg.
8/13/2013 08:40:00 AM
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Been to Mt. Greenwood and you are no more than 4 blocks from the beast. Who you kiddin?
i live in 016 n iam thinking about moving mt green wood i have a lot of cops friends and was told very neighborhood like n everybody watches over everybody unlike the nw side. sure the beast is close and on the east side of 22 but he keeps the cops there on their toes.lower prices and lower taxes
10 years ago 016 had more than 350 po's assigned and the district hadn't gone section 8. Now po's are just under 200 and the IR#'s living in the district have skyrocketed. What does the U of C Crime Lab say about that!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
City hall and 35th street could care less about 016! They don't care what the Aldermen thinks or wants and they don't care about the citizens living there. There are 50 Aldermen, so what two or three aldermen think or vote doesn't really matter. Rahm still gets his stuff passed because there are plenty of Aldermen left to get his majoriety. Easily!
8/13/2013 02:19:00 PM
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How true. 007 and 011 are all that matter. The shorties must get to school safely. Every newscast is about the downtrodden in the ghetto. Useless MF er's if I ever saw a useless MF er.
Egalitarianism is an evil, plain and simple.
You make no noise. You get no service.
8/13/2013 10:45:00 AM
So, you make noise and the 911 operator says you STILL get no service unless it is happening this very moment and you are witnessing it. If it ended 20 seconds ago, they'll happily refer you to 311 so you can get a report for your insurance. (And, yes, that is EXACTLY what they tell you.)
I lived on Ozark north of Touhy. In 5 years I saw the police twice and once was a former partner stopping by.
a chumbalone said...
moved in the 6 corners area in dec. 2011. next time i see somebody pulled over for a traffic violation will be the first around here.
local papers police blotter is chock full of strong armed and armed robberies yet crime is down.
mayor goofus on monday said cameras will catch license plates of drive by shooters speeding away.
maybe the lure of free donuts could attract a cop or two around here.
8/13/2013 09:38:00 AM
And maybe another stiff drink will soothe your issues. Stereotype much?
Of course I see the mailman more than the beat car, the garbage man...once a week, sweeper every 2-3 months....
Meanwhile another "Damage to Property" occurs on 1621 and the Aldermush can give 2shits until Election season.
It's amazing how people can be so upset on the internet but they won't do anything in their daily lives.
"016 Up For Grabs", I'll tell you one of the reasons that 016 is up for grabs. Take for instance the 2nd Watch female officer who lives on Beat 16XX but usually works another beat car. She'll park that other beat car in front of her house, go inside and come out literally an hour and a half later and will do this several times a day. You might say that the people living on Beat 16XX would be happy to see a squad car parked on their block but really, how is crime being deterred when the officer driving that squad is inside her home oblivious to what's going on outside. Oh, and I'm sure that the other residents living on the beat that she is supposed to be working and protecting are ecstatic with her work ethic as well. Give me a break!
I live on the north west side on diversey near cicero. A couple months ago 4(?) People were shot one killed. I also hear gunshots atleast once a week or atleast every other week but the gang members on the north west side are even worse shots than west and south side gangsters. But my block now is nothing compared to the block I stayed on about 3 years ago around lockwood and belden a few blocks from the grand & central police station. Shootings all the time, 20 & 30 gang members on the corners all day, gang fights being questioned "what you is?" All the time because since I was a black teenager in a hispanic finball(gang alliance) neighborhood i had to be a GD to them. All in all, I liled staying in the north Austin neighborhood better than the Belmont Cragin neighborhood although the gang violence has seemed to of calmed down
so.....you, the homeowner, work hard, pay a lot of taxes, and.....you expect police service equal to other parts of the city, where people do not pay taxes, and crime is rampant?....this is the new Democratic socialistic order....signed, Rahm
new math said...
Half of the CPD lives in 016, half in 008, and half in 022.
8/13/2013 09:06:00 AM
That would be a 1/3 in 016, a 1/3 in 008, and 1/3 in 022. Dumbass!
Where's 45th Ward Alderman Arena?
He's a Portage park guy and Emanuel's chosen lackey.
Section 8's a bitch.
Its the 38th ward you DUMB FUCK!
get to know your neighborhood and ward boundaries TROLL!
I have lived on southwest and northwest sides of Chicago. It is so much nicer to live on the northwest side. The surrounding northern suburbs are so much safer and cleaner and economically better than the surrounding southern suburbs. I see why northwest siders pay the higher taxes, and i would do it again. if you must live in the city - go northwest/Edison park.
"I live in Oriole Park." Belch, fart noise. Taxes are way too high for me. I'll stay in Mt Greenwood, Mississippi. Either way we all bail. Why not save a little more for retirement or buy a second home for retirement. "But, I live in Oriole Park." Hahahaha
Not surprising. Alderman O'Connor is still on the "Obama" train and kissing Rahm's ass every step of the way. Don't expect police service in 016. And by the way, will that stupid blond hillbilly retire already or go back to the academy and learn the job.
Cmdr J.O. is way over his head. His pasty albino puss should retire from police work, and get a paper route. More of his nitch. Just sayin.
Do NOT go to this reddit site! It is run by a spin doctor for Ald Arena and Rep. Martwick's chief of staff to put a bullshit happy face on the 45th ward. The pussies want you to give up info so they can repeat it and act like they got street cred. Fuck them. Make them talk to coppers on the job if they want intel.
"For all of you in 016, 017, 025 so you know there's a new public forum that's always looking for new content about the NW side. It's popo friendly and you can use it anonymously. It can always use your personal opinions and insight.:
http://reddit.com/r/greatNWside"
We need the ALPHA Girls in 016......only they and their superior tactical training can save the day...
This goes out to all those assholes who complain about caliber of pos in 016. Not all of us did whole careers in 016 and believe it or not we try to do some proactive work. I have idea instead of using your juice for some cool unit come and police home front. This district has as many pos as 3rd watch in 007. So until you work here stfu!
701 coward "BIG AL" went into the watch commanders office in tears, and told the Lt, he was scared to work the streets, go hide at midway you piece of shit!!What a way to leave the dept!!!
That was after he left his partner deal with an on view shooting, while he hid.
I called after midnight one night for a fight across the street and no one came out. 1/2 hr later I called the station and they told me there were 2 cars that night and they were very busy. He suggested I call the alderman.
Manpower is only part of the problem. I have never seen a District Commander treat people worse than this arrogant piece of work...
Yea he has a huge ego for sure!
I was kind of pissed when I went to Area North and ended up in shitsville--but I have to say, the det's in 016 (at least what I've heard) are busy as all hell.
On my days off I go to a lot of garage sales and talk to a lot of people in 016, and they tell me about all these incidents that have happened. I ask them if they made out a police report, and they inevitably say 'no'. I tell them to report EVERYTHING, no matter how minor. I'm spreading the word as best I can.
1st and 16th said...
Well maybe if the cop's that live in 016 would all bid to 016 to do some work than maybe it would be different. I hear them all the time bitch and moan but they would never dare leave the ghetto because they are afraid to be stuck on 1st watch up in 016. Oh well its nobodies fault but the cop's that live up there. Quit playing super cop in the ghetto (nobody cares) and go protect your home front.
8/13/2013 08:25:00 AM
Amen brother. I've been preaching that for years.....
Thank you to 1631 days. I see you everyday. From a 67xx unit PO. THANK YOU.
Government handouts enable the democratic voter block to move into once, quiet and very low crime, majority white neighborhoods. Couple this with the outsourcing of 16th district police resources elsewhere and you have a perfect recipe for disaster. Growing up in portage park during the 80's and 90's I remember how much I enjoyed it. It's very sad to see what is happening, but I still live there among many other honest and hard working residents. My neighbors and I always look out for each other, and I never hesitate to call the police when I see something suspicious.
I can't stand seeing that jagoff McCarthy on the news, bullshitting everyone about how safe it is. The pandering by politicians in this city just gets worse and worse. And by the way, how is it city employees can get fired for residency violations and Jr's' mrs can live in Washington. It just gets worse and worse. I think the city ought to offer every employee their contributions to the pension, plus interest and let them do their own investing, instead of bullshitting everyone about how outrageous their pension benefits are. We put our end in, its not our fault these dickheads decided to use our money
as a piggy bank for their pandering. Im done, I quit!
Just had case management down grade 2 strong arm robberies to thefts!
The case reports are being changed and downgraded.
Make sure if you generate a case Report don't be half ass and make the crime a misdemeanor you "AINT" helping anyone.
High number make the white shirts sweat.
All those stolen phone out of people hand are strong arm robberies.
Quit making them thefts describe the force used in detail.
OR you can whine on the BLOG like the yuppies you have become...
I have lived on 1611's beat for over 7 years, and I can count on 1 hand the times I've seen a squad car drive down my block.
When was the last time there were openings in 016?
The superintendent doesn't think we need police protection in 016...he said that himself during one of his speeches in the new sgt's class.
How about FOP organizing a march around the 016th district. I'll go.
Granted there may not be the amount of police we would like in West Beverly and Mount Greenwood but I don't know how many times you are calling police in 022 to make a comment about a slow response from them. A call of a suspicious person or anything in progress on 2211 and 2212's beat gets a great quick response from 022 police officers. They got two people breaking into cars on 104th and Lawndale today. I see other beat cars driving around over West all the time. It is still a good area, I'd stay away from any houses East of Western.- not a police officer
The 16th District is understaffed. The police officers assigned to 016 are no better or worse than the rest of the officers in the Department. Some are the best of the best and some are lazy ass dogs. But one thing is for certain 016 does not have enough to police the area in the manner worthy of a professional police department. The citizens of 016 pay their fair share of taxes, and the city would be wise to protect their tax base. If 016 turns then we will become Detroit. They pay OT to keep the tourists on Michigan Ave. but not one cent for basic patrol services for taxpayers. Rahm wake up, if this does not change your a one term mayor.
As a P.O. In 016 I can say that everyday there are those of us that go out there and do what needs to be done. Sure lots of rants on here about "oh they work there and aren't the real police blah,blah,blah. Seriously a pretty good number of us worked in shitholes and playedn"chase homie" for many years and lets face it it gets old. I'll apologize on behalf of the guys who would never ANOV or ticket a family member no matter how shitty they are to us...yeah talk to your loved ones about their attitudes when their only saving grace is being a relative. Oh and the off duty P.O.'s who call and demand crap that they'd NEVER do if they were on duty but because they've been inside someplace haven't had the pleasure of a lawsuit think before asking /demanding the ridiculous. Basically everyone should think before slinging a bunch of accusations and hey for all the big talkers PLEASE bid to 016 and apply all that bravado and energy here cleaning the place up because we could use you.
8/13/2013 07:43:00 AM
Every 016 copper I know gives this same sorry speech. Most coppers in 016 went there out of the academy or got dumped there from a unit. 8 bid openings in almost 4 years. You get the occasional hardworking guy like the now retired Bone, but most of the rest have never been the police, never will be the police, and have no interest in being the police. Save your tale of woe for your choir.
Interesting read on the Sgt's application. Looks like the rumor of needing a year year college degree is false. Only 60 accredited hours is needed to take the exam.
say what you want about 016, but the truth of it is just very simple- here we have some very experienced Officers that I've seen in my 20 yrs. On any given call our Officers can handle any and all jobs without help and without supervision. Now look around in your own district and see if you can truly say that about your co workers? So the next time you or your loved one calls, you can be assured a very experienced Officer will handle the job and do the right thing. And since I got into the district, I have logged ten times the miles I ever have in the ghetto, all patrolling the good areas.
I blame the adaptation and disbursement of the criminal element to my neighborhood :( To bad Ald. Arena is just too busy painting JP to attend to getting more officers.
Well now,what about all you coppers who used to brag about living in 16, no dudes, gangs whatever, so you cops that work there just relaxed and REFUSED to do any kind of police work, well now you are all paying the orice and it will only get worse just wait and see, and for you that live up in Wildwood, Edgebrook, Edison Park, your time is coming.
OK...
Since the problem seems to bne that the Shit-Heads are over-Policed where they live... Why not just start fucking-up Shit-Heads when you catch them in your house/on your property uninvited to discourage them from taking a shit where Policemen live?
When enough m/fers "vanish" or are found in the woods beaten into a coma, the word will spread like wildfire in 011, 015, 007, 006 and 005 where these mutts are spawned.
"Man... Ol' boy went up norf to hit some licks last week and we ain't seen his ass since."
Vigilantism IS the answer since nobody at City Hall gives a shit about Coppers and their families.
Why do you think these fools are pushing district consolidations?
To hide the fact that out of the 25original districts before consolidation, each district was down 200 or more officers compared to early to mid 90's manpower...
Just look around you... We don't have the street presence we used to have and the Shit-Heads KNOW IT!
Time off was not a problem and you could catch a bid to a district close to home if you had the seniority.
Now?
No time off for nobody but "we have enough Officers, we just need to be "smart" in how we deploy them."
Bids?
They chained the fucking doors shut to keep people from exercising their seniority cards (CPD once again is probably one of the oldest Police Departments in the country) to bid to districts where real tax-payers are the majority instead of an oddity.
"Oh no! We're not letting you m/fers escape the ghetto!"
Remember... Start fucking up these mutts sniffing around looking to steal, rob and get their dicks wet...
City Hall, the rev'runs and the alderfools will have a shit fit because their true constituents are getting fucked up by the "hired help."
That it would come to this and by intentional design is so utterly fucked-up...
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Sponsors include FLOP Lodge 7
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Anne Burke is on the 100 Club Board
Keep Sending your $$$ to help the Fallen Cops it goes to the Clouted seeking the Lime Light
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Send your money direct to the fallen Po's family
If you can't protect the homeland, the war is lost. It's only a matter of time. There are many people who actually chose to live on the NW side because it was nice, but why bother staying if you have to live near/next to the beast? Once the people who aren't required to live in the city leave the NW side the last domino will fall and the death spiral of Shitcago will be complete. There aren't enough coppers, firemen, etc. to take their place. Thanks dumbocrats.
reddit is a liberal blog site who gets offended when people tell the facts related.I read a recent post about a Burglary and PO imputed info related to canvas of home invasion and related what victim stated " the accent and language articulated by offender was of Puerto Rican accent.
Well let me tell you dumb ass the words used like bus and money is different fro what every country uses. Yes Spanish is universal but not everyone speaks the correct way like the south Americans or Spanish Catalan.
016 District Section 8 said...
This goes out to all those assholes who complain about caliber of pos in 016. Not all of us did whole careers in 016 and believe it or not we try to do some proactive work. I have idea instead of using your juice for some cool unit come and police home front. This district has as many pos as 3rd watch in 007. So until you work here stfu!
8/13/2013 07:59:00 PM
Totally agree. Older coppers in 016 know how to do a lot more with less, and to do it effectively. I believe 016 coppers really care about what's going on, but are having to deal with more crime with fewer resources. i've had some OD stuff happen and the response was fabulous. Don' t listen to the naysayers....you guys do a great job with what you have to work with. Thanks.
Wilson Park looks like a third world country on the weekends with imports from outside of the 45th Ward. People that i've talked to have gravitated north from Humboldt Park.
Why are they coming into our area and displacing residents out of the park on the weekends? Any answers Alderman Arena? Who gave these soccer clubs carte blanche to come in our area, block the alleys parking illegally, and running the residents out.
Anonymous said...
Hopefully this harsh lesson will get people to learn by their mistakes and vote for J. Garrido the next time he runs against Arena. Until then you people only have yourselves to blame.
8/13/2013 01:14:00 PM
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The remap seriously cut into the areas where Garrido ran strong. Thank the idiots at the SEIU for Alderman Arena. He won't have that hard a time getting re-elected because the way the map was redrawn.
At least Arena is being a pain in the ass to Rahm. Emanuel may back a woman named Michelle Baert in the next race. Don't vote for super-mom, she's just another machine shill.
"One shooting is far too many, and it is troubling how close the beast is getting to the door. However I can truly say that I see a beat car patrolling on my block and usually in my alley every day. On the one occasion that I actually had to call for service, I got an excellent response. The guys and gals in 016 are doing a great job for which I thank them."
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What bizarro alternative 016 are you living in? Cus the response sucks and the PO's came to retire. Just like 022. Zero police presence in the good parts. And they do not respond faster when you tell dispatch your an off duty PO.
I have lived on 1611's beat for over 7 years, and I can count on 1 hand the times I've seen a squad car drive down my block.
When was the last time there were openings in 016?
About 2 periods ago. There have been openings there 2 or 3 times this yr.
The genius who said we are foolish for living in 16 and paying higher taxes, and shootings don't happen in mount Greenwood? You are comparing your neighborhood, which is surrounded by the savage, to the whole 16th district? I live in Norwood park. Do you really want to compare stats with my neighborhood? I don't go to the store and see the same animals I locked up last week. I dont have to go to the suburbs like you do to get a great dinner without seeing the beast. I know I know " you live on a good block". But like I said, you can't even compare. And don't put down fellow officers because where they can live. It's cool that you are jealous, but don't put down fellow brothers.
Hey, but we have another concerned alderman whose name starts with "apostrophe O". Thats all that counts to the westside losers who destroyed Chicago, and Edison Park.
Anonymous said...
I was a supervisor in 016 a few years back. I can tell you, without question, 016 gets good cops now and then. They are driven out of the district by the goofs. Not just the p.o.s but the supervisors too. There is no room for hard working cops there. Don't believe me? Bid in. Bust your ass, and see how long you last. They will write you up for everything. I know because I was told to hammer good cops until they toed the 016 line. That's why I left. 016 can't change because 016 wont change.
8/13/2013 09:34:00 AM
Thats a crock of shit!
Dean Stone
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Kangaroo
If you dont like the Europeans in 016 than move to 007 moron. Im sure you will be much happier and safer.
Anonymous said...
Cmdr J.O. is way over his head. His pasty albino puss should retire from police work, and get a paper route. More of his nitch. Just sayin.
8/13/2013 07:22:00 PM
Nitch?
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
new math said...
Half of the CPD lives in 016, half in 008, and half in 022.
8/13/2013 09:06:00 AM
That would be a 1/3 in 016, a 1/3 in 008, and 1/3 in 022. Dumbass!
8/13/2013 06:43:00 PM"
That is called a joke there short bus.
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
"I live in Oriole Park." Belch, fart noise. Taxes are way too high for me. I'll stay in Mt Greenwood, Mississippi. Either way we all bail. Why not save a little more for retirement or buy a second home for retirement. "But, I live in Oriole Park." Hahahaha"
Crime happening mostly in Portage is nothing like Oriole, and Portage is nothing compared to the shit that surrounds you in Mount Hillbillywood. I'll pay my taxes and know I don't have to see the beast driving down my streets.
Half of the CPD lives in 016, half in 008, and half in 022.
8/13/2013 09:06:00 AM
That would be a 1/3 in 016, a 1/3 in 008, and 1/3 in 022. Dumbass!
8/13/2013 06:43:00 PM
Butt SCC's post said half the police department lives in 016...
Officer P. P. who works 1611 is a great copper. I've dealt with him several times. He works his beat, which is where I live, and I'm glad he's here on days to look after things. I may not see bim a lot, but ive been on the receiving end of that BS before, so I won't pretend to know how busy his day is. It's a pretty big beat, and so is 2211.
I've been on the job 27 years, and personally, I'm glad to have never worked in 016, dealing with all the know-it-all ODPO's and, even worse, the firemen. I'd like 016 to have more coppers, and 022 as well. I know a lot of the coppers in 022, they bust their asses to protect the homefront.
Lets not forget the real problem: This is all a matter of Gary & Co stacking all of their resources in 007 , 003, and 011 to keep their stats down. 022 and 016 have more in common than most people think, no need to be in conflict on this blog about it. This is ultimately a voting issue.
I'm going to 016 to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum........
>Anonymous said...
>As a P.O. In 016 I can say that everyday there are >those of us that go out there and do what needs to be >done. Sure lots of rants on here about "oh they work >there and aren't the real police blah,blah,blah.
I've owned here in Portage Park since 1985. 016 has always done great police work by me. Between answering calls immediately to solving a burglarly and putting the bad guys away for years.
Tell all your coworkers we think you guys do a great job. Keep up the good work. Oh yeah, and keep up the good fight in the park these days, we know you won't let all the honor roll students take over Irving and Central.
I was a supervisor in 016 a few years back. I can tell you, without question, 016 gets good cops now and then. They are driven out of the district by the goofs. Not just the p.o.s but the supervisors too. There is no room for hard working cops there. Don't believe me? Bid in. Bust your ass, and see how long you last. They will write you up for everything. I know because I was told to hammer good cops until they toed the 016 line. That's why I left. 016 can't change because 016 wont change
WELL Said That's the DEPT in every dist Do bad cops ever get disciplined? Never If your a drinking Bud or in the Clique your OK Semper Fi
"016 Up For Grabs", I'll tell you one of the reasons that 016 is up for grabs. Take for instance the 2nd Watch female officer who lives on Beat 16XX but usually works another beat car. She'll park that other beat car in front of her house, go inside and come out literally an hour and a half later and will do this several times a day. You might say that the people living on Beat 16XX would be happy to see a squad car parked on their block but really, how is crime being deterred when the officer driving that squad is inside her home oblivious to what's going on outside. Oh, and I'm sure that the other residents living on the beat that she is supposed to be working and protecting are ecstatic with her work ethic as well. Give me a break!
8/13/2013 05:51:00 PM
If youre referring to a rapid that takes lunch on ardmore shes probably one of the best in 016. very hard working cop.
i must say, 2nd watch 016 has to be one of the hardest working watches in the district at any given time. They do their jobs, reports, and clear up for the next job quickly. group of good guys and gals.
And back when they had a 1696 on 2nd watch, he would clear a crash within 10 mins and asking camille for the next one. whatever you guys are doing...keep at it. dont listen to anybody else. keep focused and do your thing.
Anonymous said...
new math said...
Half of the CPD lives in 016, half in 008, and half in 022.
8/13/2013 09:06:00 AM
That would be a 1/3 in 016, a 1/3 in 008, and 1/3 in 022. Dumbass!
8/13/2013 06:43:00 PM
Relax. Have you ever heard of Yogi Berra?
There's no police presents in 016 because all the coppers are going to the south and west sides to kill black babies. It part of their civic duties. Don't you people watch the news? Get with the program
I have lived on 1621's beat for almost 9 years and believe I have seen the beat car maybe a total of 9 times.
At least Arena is being a pain in the ass to Rahm. Emanuel may back a woman named Michelle Baert in the next race. Don't vote for super-mom, she's just another machine shill.
Hes not being a pain in the ass to the mayor. They all play the game the same. If there is an issue that is of interest to CFD and CPD and other city employees, the aldermen in the wards where there is a strong concentration of them, vote against the mayor and put on a show for their constituents. The end result is the measure, law or ordinance passes 42-8 or 44-6 and the alderan looks like he opposes the mayor. All just a big game
Gotta say, I live on 1613's beat--the lowest crime beat in the city last time I checked. I called for service once and a beat car, a sgt., and a wagon showed up...even CFD (too long of a story) I was shocked. They were all great. My neighbor, however, whose living room is in the back of his house, even though there were all these coppers with flashlights and radios and firemen tromping through his yard looking for someone, didn't hear a thing.
16 not that bad n we got capt hoot as an xo great guy n johnny garrido our next supt.
it must be their friday.
Gee, a post about 016 turning into a "bitch fest" about the lazy do-nothing POs on 1st watch???..... Never saw that coming.
Anyways..... Shame on you SCC for implying that because of two shootings that have nothing to do with one another would somehow suggest that 016 is "up for grabs". Way to stir the pot without all the facts.
The two "innocent youths" shot on Irving were dirt bag gang bangers wandering too far from their hoods. And the car lit up on Central was thanks to a car load of gang bangers from 025 going on a spree thats tied to two other shootings from 025.
Now its well known that 016 is short..... across the board. All three watches are feeling the pinch. I also love how a shooting that happens at 10:30pm, while 3rd watch, tact and 1st watch are all out, solely falls on the shoulders of 1st watch. Nice.
I'm not gonna say that 1st watch is full of aggressive superstars that are getting a bad rap, but a lot of the criticism is just plain BS. There are a few good coppers who still do their job. The door swings both ways on this one. Management and "the powers that be" have created this recipe for disaster by fueling the flames of disgruntledness. No time due, blanket SPARS, splitting partners up, allowing the bad apples to spoil bunch...... etc....
016 needs more bodies. Plain and simple. Until its back up to almost 300 POs again (its under 200), expect more of the same.
yet i still can't carry a gun in this city.
Isnt Garrido the tac lt. ? Is he cracking the whip on those guys?
There are three kinds if people in the world.
Those that are good at math,
And those that aren't !
With scum like this living in Portage Park no wonder its going under.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-14yearold-sex-abuse-victim-to-good-samaritan-help-me-hide-me-20130814,0,1229725.story
Anonymous said...
If you dont like the Europeans in 016 than move to 007 moron. Im sure you will be much happier and safer.
8/14/2013 06:28:00 AM
Europeans? Oh! 007. You're talking about Great Britain.
Isnt Garrido the tac lt. ? Is he cracking the whip on those guys?
HEs the Political HAck that is always running for Office Mr.Big Ego and Never Ever makes it
Ha HA So Sad
Ya think the powers that be are laughing
The Northwest Side has very strange people. Just go to the HIP Mall.... The sludge from the city has moved her as well as the crazy European people that already reside in this area.
And back when they had a 1696 on 2nd watch, he would clear a crash within 10 mins and asking camille for the next one. whatever you guys are doing...keep at it. dont listen to anybody else. keep focused and do your thing.
8/14/2013 09:41:00 AM
1696 went to prison for clearing those crashes as fast as possible because he was getting paid big money from the tow companies, you moron! I bet even the biggest dog would come clear for an extra $100 for EVERY job he handled!
Whole district going to shit.... Maybe it would help if people that work in 016 actually locked people up.... Not safe anywhere, familia stones apparently run 16 now, not cpd
As an observant civilian, there's no doubt there's been a slow but steady influx of trash from the Hansen & Riis Park areas into Portage Park over the last 10 years.
The CAPS office used to downplay this fact telling us "no gang presence in the 16th". That slightly changed after the gang hit at the barber shop at Irving-Central a few years ago. Now they, including the present District Commander say "no gangs claim territory" in the 16th, even after subsequent gang related shootings. We find that hard to believe with activity at Chopin Park & just West of Cicero from Belmont to nearly Irving.
Also after every one of these incidents, the 38th ward alderman meets with the mayor, superintendent & district commander requesting increased permanent police manpower in the area. We have it for a week. Then they get reassigned somewhere else. Through it all the 45th ward alderman & his de-facto political organization (Portage Park Neighborhood Association) remain silent.
Our jobs are outside of Chicago. Our shopping and entertainment is done outside of Chicago. Mortgage will be paid off in 27 months. No reason for us to stay after that.
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Anonymous said...
I was a supervisor in 016 a few years back. I can tell you, without question, 016 gets good cops now and then. They are driven out of the district by the goofs. Not just the p.o.s but the supervisors too. There is no room for hard working cops there. Don't believe me? Bid in. Bust your ass, and see how long you last. They will write you up for everything. I know because I was told to hammer good cops until they toed the 016 line. That's why I left. 016 can't change because 016 wont change.
8/13/2013 09:34:00 AM
Thats a crock of shit!
Dean Stone
8/14/2013 12:54:00 AM
Well, Dean, I would say you're full of shit. I could name a few guys, but you would just accuse me of being one those guys and having sour grapes. Just ask the two cops that were forced into 024 a few years back if I'm lying. One of those guys is using the same lawyer I have to sue the city and a few bosses. Ask John Lewison.
The dogs are looked after. Just ask the guys that sleep all night in the cemetery by Rosemont or behind the shopping centers in Niles. Ask the cops (Sgts. too) that go home for a few hours EVERY NIGHT if anyone says or does anything to them!
You know why you don't see cops patrolling at night. There at home or in the suburbs.
GPS you say? Doesn't matter in 016.
No one has ever been called out on being in the same place for hours or leaving the city.
Tac guys writing ANOV's and parkers is the least of their problems. They have always had weak teams in 016. That will not change anytime soon.
My time in 016 were the worst years I've had on this job. I still talk to one or two guys there and nothing has changed.
If hard charges went to 016 they would leave soon after or change their ways.
If I'm so full of shit, bid there. Wait, you're probably already there and part of the problem.
BTW, nothing that I'm saying is 016's dirty little secret. Anyone and Everyone that has ever been in 016 knows this to be true. That district is going to get a hell of a lot worse until it gets better. Get your head out of your ass, Dean. You were probably one of the guys sleeping in Portage Park when the kid got shot.
I am a P.O., and I don't live in 016 but I grew up over there. I have noticed a HUGE change for the worst.
IF ANYONE HAS A CHANCE, GO INTO THE PCAD AND ENTER (RAP), you will be amazed at how many RAPS 016 has every month.
I guarantee that if an order came out and the FOP gave their consent that allowed any P.O. that lives in 016 to transfer there immediately, I bet half these guys wouldn't do it. They can't give up working in the 'hood. They love it too much.
Opportunity for Sheriff Dart ....start calling the Sheriff's Dept. for help.The tree Police do a good job. 12:14AM your right a lot of fire power up this way, we should know what to do..... wouldn't you think?
The people of the 16th District had their chance in the last alderman and state senate election. They voted out the only Republicans around. The state tax went up, the next week I believe. Don't blame the police. The 41st ward is a joke. The people who supposedly run it "don't have a clue". They do what they are told to do. Don't blame the police, blame the residence.
Anonymous said...
I was a supervisor in 016 a few years back. I can tell you, without question, 016 gets good cops now and then. They are driven out of the district by the goofs. Not just the p.o.s but the supervisors too. There is no room for hard working cops there. Don't believe me? Bid in. Bust your ass, and see how long you last. They will write you up for everything. I know because I was told to hammer good cops until they toed the 016 line. That's why I left. 016 can't change because 016 wont change.
8/13/2013 09:34:00 AM
I call BS on that one. No one has ever hammered good cops in 016. I have been here for 12 yrs and never witnessed that. You are obviously a week supervisor. Ever heard of discretion or standing up to the boss who told you to hammer someone. If you were worth your weight, you would have some stones and defend the hard working cop.
I work in 016 johnny garrido n capt hooten are great
Can they please start assigning some ALPHA Girls to 016...all that would be needed is about five ALPHA Girls and this gang problem would be history...to bad the leader left, she could have shown us a thing or two....
022 isn't too that much better. response time is horrible. you never see the beat cars unless they are getting lunch. 11eddie codes because it takes these assholes 20 minutes to respond.
8/13/2013 01:02:00 PM
I've had a different experience with the coppers in 022. Over the years, I've called the guys n gals in 022 multiple times, all for non priority jobs, and the response time has been fantastic on all three watches. They arrive in 2 minutes or less, often with multiple cars and even an unmarked or two sometimes. No bullshit, keep up the good work guys!
Granted there may not be the amount of police we would like in West Beverly and Mount Greenwood but I don't know how many times you are calling police in 022 to make a comment about a slow response from them. A call of a suspicious person or anything in progress on 2211 and 2212's beat gets a great quick response from 022 police officers. They got two people breaking into cars on 104th and Lawndale today. I see other beat cars driving around over West all the time. It is still a good area, I'd stay away from any houses East of Western.- not a police officer
+1......from a from a PO
Anonymous said...
Granted there may not be the amount of police we would like in West Beverly and Mount Greenwood but I don't know how many times you are calling police in 022 to make a comment about a slow response from them. A call of a suspicious person or anything in progress on 2211 and 2212's beat gets a great quick response from 022 police officers. They got two people breaking into cars on 104th and Lawndale today. I see other beat cars driving around over West all the time. It is still a good area, I'd stay away from any houses East of Western.- not a police officer
+1......from a from a PO
8/19/2013 01:12:00 PM
Since you're against buying a home east of Western ave. you should change your neighborhood's name to East Mt. Greenwood. That way people won't be confused.
"new math" did not go to St. Gabe's in the 'Ville. That kind of math would have gotten his knuckles rapped with "the ruler" from the nuns.
"...Even the people on the northwest side are lazy..."
I have repeatedly warned people here about the evils of Starbucks coffee. I am being proven correct.
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