Tuesday, August 06, 2013

Another Wrong Talking Point

Remember, weather has nothing to do with crime - so sayeth McCompStat.

And rates of gun ownership have nothing to do with crime numbers - except when it actually does:
  • Amid calls nationwide for stricter gun control laws, Virginia is experiencing a unique trend: the state's gun-related crime is declining but firearms sales are increasing.

    Firearms sales rose 16 percent to a record 490,119 guns purchased from licensed gun dealers in 2012, according to sales estimates obtained by the Richmond Times-Dispatch.

    During the same period, major crimes committed with firearms dropped 5 percent to 4,378.

    "This appears to be additional evidence that more guns don't necessarily lead to more crime," said Thomas R. Baker, an assistant professor at Virginia Commonwealth University's L. Douglas Wilder School of Government and Public Affairs who specializes in research methods and criminology theory.
So once again, McCarthy, Rahm, liberals and politicians everywhere are wrong blaming guns for crime.

We're a bit disappointed in Fox News for running that opening paragraph as every reputable study has shown for years that rising rates of gun ownership has a direct effect on the number of crimes committed. Virginia is not unique in their crime rate dropping - it's been a proven fact for years. But we suppose even Fox News has its share of liberals-in-disguise posing as actual journalists at times.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Yellow-Pinky media and their North-Shore, New Yuck and Hollyweird masters are absolutely beside themselves because the whole gun control "assault weapon ban" agenda they've so feverishly pushed has seeminly fallen backwards kicking and screaming into it's own ass and died...

The middle class... That great big slice of American that exists outside of these ruined for decent people, Socialist/Democrat controlled urban centers like Chicago, New Yuck and L.A., has called bullshit - corner pocket to Sparkle-Fart's hysterical anti-gun propaganda.

The only places in this nation where the idiotic insistence of guns being bad and not the assholes who misuse them has taken deep roots are these urban centers like Chicago, New Yuck and L.A.

An armed society is a very polite one!

An armed, motivated and highly irate citizenry is the original check to corrosive and arrogant political power... Especially on the local level where true quality of life is affected.

8/06/2013 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous So Tired of This said...

Before you argue about guns.....
Just read the book More Guns, Less Crime.

Facts that when people have more guns - crime goes down.

If you don't want a gun - fine. Don't infringe on others' rights.

Can't Chicago and Illinois politicians just "get it" and move on?

They are so worried about guns and distances, how about eliminating double-dipping on pensions and focusing on real problems that are making this state go broke?


8/06/2013 02:57:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J Twillie said...

++++ 'Amid calls nationwide for stricter gun control laws,' +++

Whew, I love how they started with that Gag-A-Maggot line (I hate drinking my coffee twice, yuck). Anyone with 1/2 a functioning brain (sorry Gmac) knows that's complete BS, which Prof. John Lott proved decades ago with hard data in his book, More Guns, Less Crime.

That is, unless 'nationwide' is defined as East Coast Moonbats, West Coast Limousine-Libs, Demo-Commie pols, and 600 newspaper editors. Now 'somehow'(/s) I don't think that would be technically correct, nor appreciated by the people in those funny areas below the Lear Jets of those usual suspects they call: Flyover Country -- which includes most of Illinois. (Yes Tiny Dancer and McJersey, there is another whole land mass beyond the Tri-State and I-80 in IL that isn't Chicago or Cook County.)

Anyway, the shock and disbelief feigned by these gun-grabbers at the current More Guns = Less Crime stats reminds me of the 90's when Prisons and Jails were all at overflow capacities and crime dropped across the country. Every Elite Talking-Pinhead refused to see the correlation between career criminals being locked away and not being on the streets committing carnage, and crime dropping while they're in prison: *Chadsworth, why do you think Marqueeth isn't robbing Banks now? Hmmm, good question Prof DoGoody? Though I'm sure being sentenced to Statesville for 25 years has nothing to do with it.*

Assholes.

8/06/2013 05:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they are so against guns... why do all of them have armed guards?

8/06/2013 08:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why not start tracing guns used in crimes and punishing the strawbuyers?

8/06/2013 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks to the Supreme Court and some ultra left do-gooders, California has to release about 10,000 "non violent" offenders-burglars, thieves, drug dealers because of overcrowding-- Even the Lefties that run CA are flipping out. Hopefully their won't be too many people victimized by this, but
I have heard that gun sales have soared there also.

8/06/2013 08:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the bleeding heart liberals who want to disarm all legal American gun owners can pursue a ban on vehicles since some whacko used a car as a weapon to attack people at a Calfornia boardwalk.
This proves that cars don't kill people, people kill people!

8/06/2013 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait until Garry sees this!

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/08/05/carboard-police-officer-curbs-crime-at-mbta-station/

8/06/2013 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At the end of the day...

The Liberal Yellow-Pinky Neo-Trotskyite, Nanny Statist Catered-To-Constituency Entitlement Democrats from large, decaying alive urban centers like Chicago, New Yuck and L.A. and their Corporatist/Media allies and fundraisers CREATED THIS SHIT-SHOW!

They're FREE to to exercise THEIR right to the aggressive non-defense of curling up in the fetal position and hoping "IT" or "THEY" will just sniff and go away instead of devouring them alive ass-first...

The big problem with this flawed thinking is that it seeks to solve a so called problem by subtraction...

Take away guns and in general re-boot/re-image the concept of vigorous self defense as the province of "The Angry White Middle-Class Conservative Male" and all others (Popularly known as "Sell-Outs" and other such) who for whatever reason, refuse to sign on for "Hope & Change" and are singled out for constant ostracism in the media for failing to "Let It Go/Get Over It."

Yeah... Disarming the law abiding to leave them at the not so tender mercies of the criminal and the crazy who will ALWAYS figure out a way to maximize their "impact" with or without guns.

Truth... "God made man, Sam Colt made men equal..."

The Liberal Yellow-Pinky excells in being divorced from the reality of how dangerous this world is.

"We Need More Laws" is a common epithet from the left.

We, as a society are lousy, overrun, infested and energetically itching with laws.

More Laws mean absolutely dick-all to the determined criminal and the crazy.

We note the recent spasm of hypocritical and stinking idiocy that exited the sqatting rump and landed between the shoes (on the wrong feet of course) of the wholly corrupt body politic of Chicago... The City Council.

More gun laws feel good when you don't have the political will to actually do something to address the problem.

Whoopsie! That might mean actually giving The Police their mojo back...

More Laws are an absolute menace to the general well being and an intentional stumbling block to the vigorous application of our American tradition of the hard-headed, clear-eyed common sense reasoning of "For The Good Of All" to fill the gaps where The Law may fall short.

Go ahead Yellow-Pinkies...

YOU'RE free to disarm and take your chances but leave everyone else the fuck alone.

*Stamping of size 5 feet in outrage*

"NO! NO! NO! NO GUNS!
Get rid of guns! We ALL have to be equally disarmed because guns are bad!"

8/06/2013 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi SCC,

OT, but have you seen this story about how the Cambridge, MA transit police are using cardboard cutouts of police officers to deter crime? I'm surprised 9.5 and McStreetLights haven't thought of this already...

http://news.msn.com/us/cardboard-cop-cuts-crime-saves-money-in-mass

8/06/2013 01:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bring back VRI on days! More and more persons are being shot, during the days hours of VRI!

8/06/2013 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many TAX dollars are being wasted fighting for and against withholding legislator's pay.

This is a sideshow that is wasting money that could be going into the pension funds.

8/06/2013 02:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's go fellow old timers , if you are 55 sign up now for the free health care , so far only 22 of us signed up . it 's a benefit that could be gone in our new contract .

8/06/2013 02:55:00 PM  
Blogger SpankDaddy said...

Well, imagine that.

8/06/2013 03:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pro-gun myself but to add something to the discussion a raw number of sales increases doesn't really mean much if it's just from collectors increasing the size of their collection. Though it'd be presumptuous and silly to say the entirety of sales were to people who already owned weapons the statistic is meaningless without some metric for discovering how many are new purchasers.

That information is a lot harder to come by though.

8/06/2013 08:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Speaking of wrong talking points.
The honorable, majestic, fantistic, scrumdilishious, minister of defense, bobby rush, reportedly wanted Metra to pay
$50K to the National Black Chamber of Commerce to monitor the subcontracts for the rail systems Englewood rail project.

Isn't this the same project that he threatened to obstruct if residents didn't get a fair share if jobs.

bobby rush is a piece of shit who has done nothing but race baiting. Ypu have done nothing to improve your constituents lives.

8/06/2013 08:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sergeants test not until early next year?

8/06/2013 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT>>>>

CPS is cutting back on standardize testing in schools....know why???

8/06/2013 09:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please Mikey don't embarrass us at the convention. Please!

8/06/2013 09:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Let's go fellow old timers , if you are 55 sign up now for the free health care , so far only 22 of us signed up . it 's a benefit that could be gone in our new contract .

8/06/2013 02:55:00 PM

What's the magic minimum this year? And the cutoff date?

8/06/2013 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: 55 and out. We have until October 1st to sign up for next year right? I think we're all just waiting to see what's going to happen

8/06/2013 10:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Terror alerts at a level we have not seen in some time and B.H.O. Slapping his leg on the Leno show. Really? Nothing better to do?

8/06/2013 10:39:00 PM  
Blogger Ray said...

Wait a second, my liberal "friends" were wrong about guns? Oh the humanity. Those stupid sheeple.

8/06/2013 11:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
OT>>>>

CPS is cutting back on standardize testing in schools....know why???


8/06/2013 09:06:00 PM


Maybe the CPS students are scoring too high and they don't want to embarrass their counterparts in private college prep schools or suburban schools like St Ignatius, Loyola Academy, New Trier HS etc.

Yeah, that's it.

8/07/2013 02:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23750738/colorado-concealed-carry-permit-seeks-increase-dramatically-2013

8/07/2013 06:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And how about National Night Out to reduce violence. A beautiful warm night : 2 killed, some 10 others shot. Yeah, weather has nothing to do with crime trends. Neither does the amount of police on the street. OK. How much was that bridge across the river you were selling?

8/07/2013 08:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Terror alerts at a level we have not seen in some time and B.H.O. Slapping his leg on the Leno show. Really? Nothing better to do?

8/06/2013 10:39:00 PM


Who the fuck watches Leno?

8/07/2013 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at this - more bogus murder rate numbers:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/08/robert-farago/parents-against-gun-violence-chicago-homicide-lie-exposed/

8/08/2013 07:24:00 PM  

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