What a Dumbass
- Former Mayor Richard M. Daley says he doesn’t remember much about the planning of Millennium Park, his wildly over-budget project that has become one of Chicago’s civic treasures.
The sprawling downtown park, with its gleaming stainless-steel sculpture known as “The Bean,” is seen as one of his crowning achievements. Daley, though, shrugs it off. He says it wasn’t even his idea to build the $475 million park, instead crediting Daniel Burnham, the legendary planner who created Chicago’s master plan more than a century ago
As Chicago’s longest-serving mayor, Daley had a reputation as a micromanager and stickler for details. But he recalls little about the many meetings he attended to plan the park and not much either about its controverisal restaurant, the Park Grill, according to a transcript of an often-contentious deposition the former mayor gave Aug. 29 at the law offices of his attorney Terrence Burns.
Sure, blame the guy who has been dead 100 years. It's certainly hard to believe this guy ran a major American city into the ground and retired without doing prison time.
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Daley is a piece of shit.
Acting stupid = get out of jail free. Or are the feds the STUPID ones?
$475mil??!!! How about $775mil, at least.
When are we going to build the Daley Vanecko vomitorium
SCC, before searching for some diabolical plot or something don't overlook the obvious-he is just that stupid! Remember, his brothers went to ignatius, but he did not get in despite his 'Ol mans position.
One evil, rotten, thieving little over sold shit-shack irish m/f who should have been no more than a frothy brown stain on the sheets in August of 1941 than the affliction he's come to be.
The quintessential "Village Idiot" hiding down the communal privy-hole giggling and clutching a handful of burning twigs to singe the asses of all who dare to squat and block his view of the world.
Chicago is reaping it's just reward for dragging the idiot from the privy-hole and placing a crown on his head.
The idiot is getting the last and best laugh.
He giggles, picks his nose, farts, inhales deeply and giggles again as people ask him what happened to all the gold that used to be in the village treasury.
"I planted twees an' flow'rs!"
*The Police are what's wrong with Chicago.*
The Great Beige Father in D.C. owes his everything to the Village Idiot and his cabal here in Chicago for putting The GBF in the White House.
What federal investigation?
But you can bet your ass a Copper gets their life turned upside-down by the G for chin-checking a Catered To Constituent too hard in self defense.
Heh...
Let a Copper fucking DARE to serve up the same word salad with bullshit vinagrette under oath that Daley got away with doing.
That ass will be in a fucking cell so fast...
Japan Central Bank To "Own" 100% Of GDP In 5 Years
The Bank of Japan will, for the first time in history, "own" all of Japan's GDP on its balance sheet some time in 2018 when its "assets" as a percentage of GDP surpass 100%, and then proceed in linear fashion to add about 10% of GDP to its balance sheet with every passing year until everything inevitably comes crashing down.
more ;
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-19/when-hyman-minsky-runs-hills-japan-central-bank-own-100-gdp-5-years
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so what happens to the city, state, or nation when the gdp to debt ratio becomes 100 percent we wonder.
gdp is a measure of all goods and services and once we sell enough bonds where all our gdp, our productivity goes to pay the debt. then what.
we are owned by the bond holders.
why would we need aldermen, a mayor, governor, senate, house, president, etc.. we've been sold. we are the bondholders property.
the bondholders are guaranteed that their bond money interest and return of capital will be paid as the bonds are backed 'by the full faith and trust of the us government.'
doesn't that mean we will be taxed 100 percent if necessary to pay back all the borrowed money. that's the promise. full faith and trust.
if there's not enough money from the taxes on your walmart jobs then they start confiscating property that you thought you would turn over to your children. emanate domain law would allow it -- it's a national emergency.
the national debt is already about 145,000 per worker at the fed level. add in about 12,000 for illinois debt and a few more thousand for cook co. and chicago debt. then add in your kids student loan debt and tell me who your kids will be working for.
we'll just take your house and land thank you very much.
we're not going to grow our way out of this. they keep charging things up and the sheep allow it.
so we're already over 200,000 dollars per worker in debt. in a few short years our kids can turn over our land and homes that we leave to them so they. in turn. can turn it over to the bondholders to pay off our debts.
i mean the good jobs have been shipped out. any of the really good jobs here are being done by foreigners on h-1b visas or illegal immigrants. there's no money to pay this shit off. so soon it will be time to call for the liquidation of assets. we already see it with the parking meter deal, the skyway deal.
so it can be expected to be brought down to the personal level just like greece stole private bank accounts.
which reminds me. you have seen the news on jp morgan not allowing wire transfers out of the country now and limiting account activity to 50k per month total. that is just for starters ppl.
the wheels are coming off the empire.
After seeing what Kwame Kilpatrick got for running Detroit into the ground, I think Daley should get the electric chair.
All the judges are beholden to him. The Democratic machine has destroyed Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, and America.
Sure he doesn't remember, because it WASNT HIM!
It was Maggie!
She'd get a snoot full of whiskey and have at it with the plans, sober up then change things again... This went on for MILLIONS of OUR TAX DOLLARS!
ot: tell the city to give us our retro or threaten to sue for residency. If the fop would ever sue we would win. Got lifted in every other big city.
Hard to believe ???
That points to every thing wrong with the country.
For" fast and furious" alone the president should be Impeached and Holder imprisoned. This is only one of several Impeachable acts ignored by the other branches of government.
When Daley destroyed Meigs field and went unpunished it was the death of the rule of law in Chicago. This was so not because the corrupt ledgeslators stood down but because the people failed to raise up and protest.
We truly have the government we deserve.
Strange, Hillary has had the exact same problem, going back to the time she was First Lady, and extending to very recent times. I guess having a really poor memory goes along with high level government positions. Still, we continue to trust them with our tax dollars and other important decisions.
I don't think the term felonious has ever been used in connection with a Daley. Why would you think that?
What...a...lying...sack...of...SHIT!!
This former mayor was no shill, in fact he ran this city like a mob boss. Destroying and killing political careers to those who opposed him. I wonder how much has been covered up in those 20 years. From the trucking scandal to now this. What else? Did Michael Scott truly kill himself? Nevertheless, we'll go ahead and bomb some contrary in the name of democracy, however it sure looks like the only thing needed to be bombed is this evil bastards bloodline.
speaking of dumbasses did Mikey fire Geiger yet?
All the media tells us is the love and passion king Daley had for the city.
Daley needs to be in prison for the rest of his miserable life. Also, why in anyone's right mind would you name a park after maggot Daley. Don't tell me the wife of the little prick had no idea what was going on.
Offer him immunity, watch his memory return. If we had real crime fighters in the Shitty it would be done.
What? Who? How? I don't remember. Oh, it was that guy Daniel's idea. You know, the guy from a hundred years ago. I don't know what I knew. Wink Wink Wink!
Now, let any Copper try answering questions like that under oath and see how quick you end up in a jail cell.
Do you know why the politicians keep thieving and stealing from us? Because we let them. That is why. No one wants to stand up and do anything anymore. They are too busy.
Say what you want about Daley, our city was becoming a dump before he took over.
Maybe those of you that write things are too young to remember Navy Pier before. It was a rotting, old, wooden pier that was nothing more than an eyesore. We had high rise ghettos that were nasty looking as you drove downtown. Our city is now the most beautiful of all the large cities In the US. And that costs money. If our city still looked the way it did 30 years ago, every single one of you would be on here bitching about what a dump we live in. We have parts of the city that are nasty looking but that is because the people living there have ruined once great neighborhoods.
Go take a visit to New York. That entire city is one big garbage can. Trash all over the street because their garbage is kept in the street. Summertime the smell in the air is rotting garbage. Go See what size of a place you could have in New York. You would be lucky to have a two bedroom apartment. Quit your bitching and be thankful that you live in a beautiful, clean, city and can afford to live in a nice single family home if that's what you want.
Did Burnham Channel to Daley to build the Park? The entire deposition can be viewed on the Sun-Times online and it is worth reading. The testimony was similar to testimony given by Hillary Clinton regarding her corruption, they just say "I do not recall" and they get away with it. So why does that not work when we get called down to IAD? Daley contrary to what so many Democrats have said for years was never very smart. Remember how he took the Bar Exam several times until personally coached by a law professor, who later became a judge as a reward for coaching Daley. Mike Royko used to make jokes about young Daley, noting how dumb he was. So how did someone this stupid stay in power so long? The answer is the Media and the Republicans refusing to ever run a competent candidate against him. AND THE REAL ANSWER IS YOU WHO VOTED FOR HIM REPEATEDLY. So if Daley is this stupid, what does it say about the bosses in the Police Department that he promoted? Shitcago really is full of Yokels.
So THAT'S where my pension went!
Shortshanks ain't dumb. (he may be stupid, but not dumb)
He used the old Billy-Jeff / Hildebeast Klintoon 'Stay Out of Prison' method of giving testimony under oath (DVD on sale now; Clinton Presidential Library & Sex Shop, $149.95 + tax):
"I don't recall"... "I have no recollection of that." ... "What? I don't know how that got there?" ... "It depends on the meaning of ___.".
And last but not least .....
.... "I didn't do it, you didn't see me do it, you can't prove I did it, and even if I did do it I can't remember doing it so there's nothing to see here -- it's old news and time to move on."
Clout Baby
There, I said it, I am a clout baby. The sergeant's test is coming up and I will pass part one. I will pass part two with flying colors. At work, no one knows who I am and who I know. I keep my mouth shut. I am part of CPD royalty and most people don't even know it. At first I felt super guilty. People at work constantly bitching about people with clout. People on this blog too. Look, this is the way it is. Not just in this department but in higher levels of government, the Fortune 500 companies, etc. Complaining won't help. Being my best friend will.
He's Mussolini if he'd kept Italy out of the war...
I heard him on WGN Radio with Bob Sirott and his wife kissing his corrupt ass.
He sounded like a fuckin' idiot.. more than usual.
I hope he rots in hell.
Dumbass?
No, I don't think so
The sheep of Chicago are the dumbass ones
If u read his actual answers it's even worse.
If he was a copper on the stand he'd be classified as a hostile witness or worse.
What a complete stroke he is.
Say what you want the "Old Pension Thief" still got 3 for himself. One he still owes 400,00 to and he also has a ghost payroll job at that paralegal firm that he show up at. It took. Him 3 times to pass the bar exam. 30 years ago.And they still call him "Dirty Little Richie". Down in Springfield.
First of all, Daniel Burnham is really dead until he stops voting.
The voting rolls list his address, along with thousands of others, as 1060 W. Addison.
Your just jealous he had the bean and that picture tower that spits water in the original plans.
"Sure, blame the guy who has been dead 100 years.(silly, silly dat's silly) It's certainly hard to believe this guy ran a major American city into the ground (no it's not, it's Democrats/Chicago) and retired without doing prison time." (one could only hope)
The deposition responses should be played over and over on TV as many times as the babushka- bar-beat down and firehouse-footwork-frolics.
Then again, 'one could only hope, BUT... it's Chicago.'
Somehow playing stupid works for him. Anybody else would go to jail.
All police, firefighters, city workers should show up to the dedication of Maggot Daley park with signs and bullhorns and peacefully protest, ”FUND OUR PENSIONS! FUND OUR PENSIONS! FUND OUR PENSIONS!!!”
Mike the city worker
Millennium park, Just like Daley park were smokescreens for repairing the roofs on the underground parking garages beneath them benefiting politically connected investors.
Why won't the media report that?
If you read some of the actual questions and answers it really shows the arrogance of the former mayor. He remembers you can believe that. I don't know what it will take for Daley to actually answer a question, maybe a grand jury? Oh, I forgot, the democrats control the two highest law enforcement positions in the state: cook county states attorney and Illinois attorney general. Daley is safe.
the end result of voters selecting dumb, stupid, intellectually bankrupt people into office....
Anonymous said...
Strange, Hillary has had the exact same problem, going back to the time she was First Lady, and extending to very recent times. I guess having a really poor memory goes along with high level government positions. Still, we continue to trust them with our tax dollars and other important decisions.
10/20/2013 03:37:00 AM
Fedheimers
Hey SCC, check this out. Sound familiar?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/10/18/Report-Crimes-Rates-In-Britain-May-Be-Higher-Than-Before-The-1997-Handgun-Ban
It appears that everyone knows how to massage (falsify, cook the books, etc.) the crime stats to meet their agenda.
Can we get a referendum that requires truth in reporting the stats, kind of like Sarbanes-oxley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes–Oxley_Act) for the law enforcement bosses.
Has McSkewthenumbers ever been to London? Meh, he would have spent the whole time in the pubs. . . . .
I don't no nuttin......I take the fifth!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
After seeing what Kwame Kilpatrick got for running Detroit into the ground, I think Daley should get the electric chair.
10/20/2013 12:49:00 AM
All right, now you're talking! Let's crank Old Sparky up! Anyone know where that old wooden chair is kept? And thanks to Rahm's aggregation agreement with Integrys Energy Services for an alternate source of electricity, the electric bill will supposedly be cheaper.
Whooeeeee! Roll on one; OK, now roll on two! Look at that old thing spark! Yahoooo!
ot: tell the city to give us our retro or threaten to sue for residency. If the fop would ever sue we would win. Got lifted in every other big city.
I may be wrong but I doubt the other big cities had residency added into their state law like ours.
Anonymous said...
Daley is a piece of shit.
10/20/2013 12:22:00 AM
Like hell, I know a few pieces of shit and no way does Daley rise to their level. He is much, much worse than that. Piece of shit? No, he is the entire fucking gigantic iceberg of shit.
ot: tell the city to give us our retro or threaten to sue for residency. If the fop would ever sue we would win. Got lifted in every other big city.
10/20/2013 02:17:00 AM
Who gives a fuck about residency my house isn't worth shit I won't b able to sell it to move anyway so I'm stuck much like the greater percentage of us . How bout shoring up my pension so I can have a shot at retirement and get the fuck out of this state
The Reliable Rumor in 011 is that Eric Washington is taking LT JA with him to narcotics to be his "administrative lt", aka gofer!
If that rumor turns out to be true then there will be one hell of a party to celebrate the drunks departure!
I have a business in this city and I cannot wait till Jan 1 to close the doors.
Remember Vincent Gigante the convicted Mafia leader who said I’m insane? The Fed’s proved he was just acting by use of wire taping him. Richie Daley the head of the Daley Crime Family wants us all to think he is stupid, which he is in an academic sort of way.
But in the crime business he is a Rhodes Scholar. His nephew RJ should be in jail for manslaughter but still walks the streets. His Nephew Robert has taken millions from the city’s pension funds. His son teamed up with Robert to illegally get city sewer contracts.
Matt Vanecko is the promoter of Lollapalooza which paid no city amusement taxes for years. Ari Emmanuel, Rahm’s brother, is co-owner of Lollapalooza. Now who do you think is going to get to put on concerts in the DePaul Basketball arena when there are no games? Who do you think is going to put on concerts in the new outdoor arena on Northernly Island?
T.R.P.
How about not threatening for retro and just sue for residency anyway? There is NO other major US city that has this archaic rule. I could give a shit if the city crumbles to the ground anyway. If they're that worried about the property values, make PO's stay for their first 7 years or something then you can live outside the city. Steady stream of po's keeping up their homes and selling them to other po's and property value stays in tact. If I had a back up plan, I'd take my family and raise it out of this God forsaken cesspool. Not letting them go to any Chicago public school with some racist like Karen Lewis at the helm. Fuck THAT!
I'd love to see the Feds bring a sledgehammer down on this pompous asshole.... won't ever happen but I can still hope and dream.
He's So Dumb He will get away with it.......
As for residency I think if the FOP doesn't flip the bill on sueing the city, then we take a poll on how many members want residency!!!
Once that's complete we each pitch in a couple hundred bucks and hire our own lawyer and sue.
Who was he again?
OT ... Who is the 12 year wagon guy on mids in 019 who considers himself "a legend" as a wagon guy because he has worked the wagon his whole career and refuses to shower or launder his clothes? AS do your unit a favor and wash your shit, your uniform is supposed to be blue not brown, you are an embarrassment to your co-workers and for some reason his supervisors don't want to hurt his feelings by telling him to clean himself.
"Strange, Hillary has had the exact same problem . . . "
All about revising history to resurrect the brand. It's a Dem thing
I still hope there's a chance this piece of garbage ends up in a Federal courtroom.
I also always genuinely believe the Bears have a chance to win the Super Bowl.
This is the same tactic the mob uses during senate hearings. Because no one can prove what you do or don't remember.
Anonymous said...
After seeing what Kwame Kilpatrick got for running Detroit into the ground, I think Daley should get the electric chair.
10/20/2013 12:49:00 AM
He did, it's at the house in Grand Beach. It wasn't nailed down.
Wasn't quite sure what the definition of felonious is, used my dictionary and it ha Shortshanks picture next to the word.
Daley is not a bright man. If you think he was the mastermind behind this train wreck that is the Chicago political scene, you are not paying attention.
This machine kept him in power for 22 years. It cast him aside when the Tiny Dancer needed a potential launching point for a Presidential bid. It has been a major player in every National election. It put the current disaster in chief in play.
Daley isn't a moron, but he is not the architect of this machine. It is much bigger and should be feared and dismantled by intelligent voters. I am afraid we don't have that in us, though.
feditis
Jail time for the Daley? Don't just cut the head off.
Think restitution. Do something that really affects him.
Hey Fed's, have you spoken with the False Prophet pastor John Abercrombie?
Every chance I get I instill in my kids to not return to Illinois after graduating college to live.
If you have ten years or less look elsewhere.
This state looks at the middle class as a piggy bank.
Lie and deny. That's the foundation of a politician.
1st poster don't you ever call a Daley "a piece of shit" again! My shit is insulted by being compared to a daley! I don't know who is worse Daley, Rahm or all the dead people who vote for them
Remember how the old parking garages beneath Grant Park leaked caustic water onto cars?
The Millennium Park garages were built with uncoated rebar.
But don't worry: The leaks won't start until after Daley is dead and Rahm is retired.
"...Kwame Kilpatrick, the disgraced former mayor of Detroit, was sentenced Thursday to 28 years in prison for corruption following a series of scandals that showed he had unchecked power while in office. " Fox News.
We hardly heard anything about this in Chicago media. It might give some people ideas. Like get the same prosecutors that did that job down here and work on the Daley Vanecko Crime Family.
Stay Safe. Mr. Fardon are you listening?
Does he even remember being mayor?
s he senile? Crafty? Felonious?
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I vote for all of the above.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Millennium park, Just like Daley park were smokescreens for repairing the roofs on the underground parking garages beneath them benefiting politically connected investors.
Why won't the media report that?
10/20/2013 09:02:00 AM
The media DID report it, quite clearly, when Emanuel announced Maggiepark. But no one paid any attention.
Then I started responding every time someone came on here complaining about Maggiepark, saying it was really about repairing the shoddy job done on the underground parking garage. (Because I had paid attention to the peripheral news reports when the 'park' was announced.)
Now, you're complaining the media doesn't report about it, because you DIDN'T pay attention, just like most people.
Google it. You'll find all the old media reports on the topic.
When we get a CR number we have to answer it. We can't use "I don't recall"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Daley needs to be in prison for the rest of his miserable life. Also, why in anyone's right mind would you name a park after maggot Daley. Don't tell me the wife of the little prick had no idea what was going on.
10/20/2013 06:44:00 AM
You wouldn't name a park after Maggie Daley.
Not unless you were an outsider, who just bought the position of mayor, who honestly believed he could sell the idea of a multi-million dollar underground garage repair by calling it Maggie Daley Park.
He never lived here, so he had no idea how people who live here really feel about the Daley crime family. His mistake was thinking Maggie was SO beloved here, the citizens wouldn't be outraged, because - after all - it was a park for their revered Maggie.
How about not threatening for retro and just sue for residency anyway? There is NO other major US city that has this archaic rule. I could give a shit if the city crumbles to the ground anyway. If they're that worried about the property values, make PO's stay for their first 7 years or something then you can live outside the city. Steady stream of po's keeping up their homes and selling them to other po's and property value stays in tact. If I had a back up plan, I'd take my family and raise it out of this God forsaken cesspool. Not letting them go to any Chicago public school with some racist like Karen Lewis at the helm. Fuck THAT!
The courts have upheld residency, most changes were reached through contract negotiations
As for residency I think if the FOP doesn't flip the bill on sueing the city, then we take a poll on how many members want residency!!!
Once that's complete we each pitch in a couple hundred bucks and hire our own lawyer and sue.
10/20/2013 11:36:00 AM
OK, I pitch in the the $2100, I lost from 1 JUL 2012 to 30 JUN 13.
Let's put that in writing, sign and mail it!
As for residency I think if the FOP doesn't flip the bill on sueing the city, then we take a poll on how many members want residency!!!
Once that's complete we each pitch in a couple hundred bucks and hire our own lawyer and sue.
10/20/2013 11:36:00 AM
I agree, we need to sue and get residency!!!! whose with me!!!
Say what you want about Daley, our city was becoming a dump before he took over.
Maybe those of you that write things are too young to remember Navy Pier before. It was a rotting, old, wooden pier that was nothing more than an eyesore. We had high rise ghettos that were nasty looking as you drove downtown. Our city is now the most beautiful of all the large cities In the US. And that costs money. If our city still looked the way it did 30 years ago, every single one of you would be on here bitching about what a dump we live in. We have parts of the city that are nasty looking but that is because the people living there have ruined once great neighborhoods.
Go take a visit to New York. That entire city is one big garbage can. Trash all over the street because their garbage is kept in the street. Summertime the smell in the air is rotting garbage. Go See what size of a place you could have in New York. You would be lucky to have a two bedroom apartment. Quit your bitching and be thankful that you live in a beautiful, clean, city and can afford to live in a nice single family home if that's what you want.
I hope the above post is being a smart ass, because the city is crumbling beneath us, the sewer system backs up every time it rains. You can not take public transportation with out being mugged or beat up. We lead the country in homocides. Our taxes are crazy high, our public school system is the worst in the counrty but costs the most. The politicians bow down to the corrupt reverunds. The politicians are in bed with the gangs. The cost of doing a cosmetic cover up of this city was not worth the price we paid. they could have done this for half the price. The greedy Daley cabal would not stop stealing. They all should be in prison.
You are more then likely a woman in your 50's or older who actually believes the bs the media spins. Go back to bingo and keep your rose colered glasses on.
rich daley reminds me of jack Nicholson character in the movie the departed when he told l. dicapio " Im still the boss the money I haven't needed it since 1980"
whats this about not being vested in pension you will get screwed?
Say what you want about Daley, our city was becoming a dump before he took over.
Maybe those of you that write things are too young to remember Navy Pier before. It was a rotting, old, wooden pier that was nothing more than an eyesore. We had high rise ghettos that were nasty looking as you drove downtown. Our city is now the most beautiful of all the large cities In the US. And that costs money. If our city still looked the way it did 30 years ago, every single one of you would be on here bitching about what a dump we live in. We have parts of the city that are nasty looking but that is because the people living there have ruined once great neighborhoods.
Go take a visit to New York. That entire city is one big garbage can. Trash all over the street because their garbage is kept in the street. Summertime the smell in the air is rotting garbage. Go See what size of a place you could have in New York. You would be lucky to have a two bedroom apartment. Quit your bitching and be thankful that you live in a beautiful, clean, city and can afford to live in a nice single family home if that's what you want
You are a total douchebag,i hope he rots in hell.
10/20/2013 02:27:00 PM
I agree 110%. I have four years on the job. My wife is a year away from finishing up her nursing degree. We have two children. Both under the age of eight. We are moving out of Illinois. I see where we are headed on a long term basis. It isn't good. We are going to move to Texas.
ot * o'Grady' boys in 189 are crying a river. You think his worthless crew there will be following him to 011.
Washington should start the launch Monday morning.
The dead weight there caused the floor to sag.
if you are under 40 run away from city of chicago
Dick Daley's fiancée also wants a park built for her.
10/20/2013 07:27:00 AM
We'd have just as a nice a city at 25% of the cost if you cut out the corrupt bullshit. The rigged bullshit bidding system, the built in cost overruns only the connected get, the gaggle of outstretched palms giving and getting greased etc...
Those rotten collusive m/fers at the scum-times locked the comments section down...
If this article were about a copper doing the fool ob the witness stand like Daley, the comments would be joyfully opened and up to around 200+ posts...
know who your enemies are and hate them with the perfect hatred.
They're saying RFK stole JFK'S brain. Who stole shortshanks brain?
Daley and Burke are untouchable period!!!!!! Rahm and the Pez are terrified of boff of them. Period!!! Daleys' nephew will go freed, this kid he killed mother will get alot of cash !!!! Period, it is one big game.
Doing prison time for running the city (or state or nation) into the ground?
Yea sure. See politicians know they can do all kinds of destructive things to keep them elected. And most of these things tax payers pay for.
Being elected to office is a win-win for them. No accountability and plenty of chances for graft.
Haven't you noticed over $600 million for Obamacare website and 2 years work and it flops? Who owns the company? Who owns stock in it? How did they get a no-bid contract?
Yea money lines the pockets of the politicians and their families. That is how.
(OT) now goofball Fullerton is saying pension debt not a crisis!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/clout/chi-cullerton-pension-debt-not-a-crisis-but-about-lowering-taxes-20131020,0,4245590.story
They're saying RFK stole JFK'S brain. Who stole shortshanks brain?
His Proctologist!
Lets sue for lifting residency. Someone hire a lawyer and I am in
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They're saying RFK stole JFK'S brain. Who stole shortshanks brain?
10/20/2013 09:46:00 PM
Who said there was a brain to steal?
Fuck Yeah! Head it up and I'm in! I'd gladly contribute money to take matters into our own hands and sue the city for residency. Let's do it!
Anonymous said...
As for residency I think if the FOP doesn't flip the bill on sueing the city, then we take a poll on how many members want residency!!!
Once that's complete we each pitch in a couple hundred bucks and hire our own lawyer and sue.
10/20/2013 11:36:00 AM
Navy Pier USED to be great; free parking, walk up and down to the lake, not crowded. Free indoor gym and sauna on the second floor. No ugly Ferris Wheel. Now its just overbuilt, overpriced yuppie land. Cannot even bring a cooler and fish off the end of the pier. Sure it looks nice but what is it:nothing but a tourist trap with an overpriced gift shop, expensive concerts and $15.00 hamburgers. wh /
Anonymous said...
Clout Baby
There, I said it, I am a clout baby. The sergeant's test is coming up and I will pass part one. I will pass part two with flying colors. At work, no one knows who I am and who I know. I keep my mouth shut. I am part of CPD royalty and most people don't even know it. At first I felt super guilty. People at work constantly bitching about people with clout. People on this blog too. Look, this is the way it is. Not just in this department but in higher levels of government, the Fortune 500 companies, etc. Complaining won't help. Being my best friend will.
10/20/2013 07:51:00 AM
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Hi Clout Baby. I have no clout. But I am a Doer with a positive attitude. I already bought my white shirts and a management book. So, those the complainers need to look in the mirror and learn to lift themselves up by their boot straps. Clout Baby, I will see you in the first class of Sergeants. I have been studying for this test for many years. I am already spending the extra pay.
Anonymous said...
Dick Daley's fiancée also wants a park built for her.
10/20/2013 09:07:00 PM
That's a good one. How about an airport along the lakefront?
Anonymous said...
As for residency I think if the FOP doesn't flip the bill on sueing the city, then we take a poll on how many members want residency!!!
Once that's complete we each pitch in a couple hundred bucks and hire our own lawyer and sue.
10/20/2013 11:36:00 AM
I agree, we need to sue and get residency!!!! whose with me!!!
10/20/2013 05:18:00 PM
Uh, thst's been done before. We lost. Perhaps youy are too young to remember. Northside would know. Hey John Northside, do you recall the court battle about residency? Illuminate everyone please.
Cuthbert J. Twillie said...
Shortshanks ain't dumb. (he may be stupid, but not dumb)
He used the old Billy-Jeff / Hildebeast Klintoon 'Stay Out of Prison' method of giving testimony under oath (DVD on sale now; Clinton Presidential Library & Sex Shop, $149.95 + tax):
"I don't recall"... "I have no recollection of that." ... "What? I don't know how that got there?" ... "It depends on the meaning of ___.".
And last but not least .....
.... "I didn't do it, you didn't see me do it, you can't prove I did it, and even if I did do it I can't remember doing it so there's nothing to see here -- it's old news and time to move on."
10/20/2013 07:47:00 AM
He was questioned by the FBI several times, on the record. They had him lying dead to rights. For reasons known but to them and Daley, and perhaps a president and attorney general, he was never indicted.
Quit your bitching and be thankful that you live in a beautiful, clean, city and can afford to live in a nice single family home if that's what you want.
10/20/2013 07:27:00 AM
If Daley and the machine hadn't stolen so much, think of the Nirvana Chicago could be.
You sound like a battered women that says her husband isn't so bad because he brings her flowers and says he loves her when he isn't hitting her.
Ass-Boy Daley only recalls what he wants to recall.
Being elected to office is a win-win for them. No accountability and plenty of chances for graft.
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I think Detroit's mayor is serving a lengthy term, for what it's worth.
da Skim!!
Daley is not stupid. He is dumb like a fox. He may suffer from dyslexia and or ADD, but don't mistake that for stupidity. He and his minions are also responsible the current administration in Washington. YEAH, Obama IS THEIR GUY! As for residency, the courts have ruled against it previously. Also look at who are the judges. Do you really think it would get a fair hearing and that we would have a chance? The only way to change it is to change the home rule provisions of the State Law through the legislature, and that ain't happening. I still wonder though what was the real reason that Bill Daley decided not to run for governor. What hidden dirt is out there regarding him and Richie?
Anonymous said...
ot: tell the city to give us our retro or threaten to sue for residency. If the fop would ever sue we would win. Got lifted in every other big city.
10/20/2013 02:17:00 AM
Who gives a fuck about residency my house isn't worth shit I won't b able to sell it to move anyway so I'm stuck much like the greater percentage of us . How bout shoring up my pension so I can have a shot at retirement and get the fuck out of this state
10/20/2013 10:29:00 AM
fuck the pension and retirement...I want the retro so when lorde rahm spreads his cheeks and drops the residency requirement into the toilet, I can move the double wide to Merrionette Park
3:34 AM
Re: Residency Litigation
While I loathe using the mantra of that lying corrupt piece of shit...
...I DON'T RECALL.
The Feds aren't going to do shit except pick the low hanging local fruit...
Remember when they curtailed Operation Greylord?
The fear was if they had let that investigation run it's natural course, every swinging dick and dangling tit in the Cook County court/justice system would have been behind bars.
Same with going after Daley...
Can you imagine?
The entire City Council, members of local media, the "Friends of Maggie" phony charity grifters and the Gold Coast/North Shore big time campaign money and cocktail party circuit people all getting housed in the federal shit-house for multiple dozens of years?
Shit... "Ain't got time for that!"
That might fuck things up and a handfull of upright people might fuck around, get in and try to do the right things by the tax payers.
The above mentioned parties will never stand still for their "birthright" being taken away by people truly oriented toward integrity and honorable elected public service.
"The Police are what's wrong with Chicago."
Viva Hate...
what the fuck does he care?? he fucked the city real good by mis spending all that money making a maggie-land park(s), ordering a fucking uselees steel bean, steering business to family nad friends,,, it was all legit....now he dont remember shit???? lmao!!!
11th ward and the 19th ward are nothing more than powerful criminal enterprises , after rahm leaves nora conroy dalet is your next mayor
You cannot be indicted for not remembering something, only lying. He's not as dumb as some think.
As for residency I think if the FOP doesn't flip the bill on sueing the city, then we take a poll on how many members want residency!!!
Once that's complete we each pitch in a couple hundred bucks and hire our own lawyer and sue.
Good luck with that.
Lets sue for lifting residency. Someone hire a lawyer and I am in
How about you hiring the lawyer and I'm in
It's been done before, yeah, so? It's a different time and the city is in a different state of disarray. We are the last of the major cities to have this dumb law. It's a different time. We would win. Other cities set a precedent. Find out who their lawyers were...not rocket science.
I agree 110%. I have four years on the job. My wife is a year away from finishing up her nursing degree. We have two children. Both under the age of eight. We are moving out of Illinois. I see where we are headed on a long term basis. It isn't good. We are going to move to Texas.
Congradulations and good luck, wish you the best
Let a Copper fucking DARE to serve up the same word salad with bullshit vinagrette under oath that Daley got away with doing.
That ass will be in a fucking cell so fast...
10/20/2013 12:44:00 AM
Not true when it comes to a deposition. Burge went to jail for lying in a federal civil deposition, which was a rarity in itself.
Remember the three keys to protect yourself : admit nothing, deny everything and demand proof.
The courts have upheld residency, most changes were reached through contract negotiations
10/20/2013 04:46:00 PM
This statement is true enough, but the courts were only in Illinois and it was many years ago. Courts in other states have thrown out residency requirements. And, times have changed even in Illinois. I have since retired and moved out of the city. But, I believe it would be worth a shot to sue over this matter. But, it would take and should take many city employees of every department to get in on the suit. Include the teachers in this matter.
Residency should be out. But, you may not like what you find. House values on the south side to include Mt. Greenwood and Midway area are pretty low and it would cost you a lot to buy a house in the burbs. Taxes are about double in the burbs, and you pay extra for garbage and water. If you have kids in the private school system you would save that money by sending your kids to public schools. But, be warned, the public schools in the burbs are infested with drugs, much more then the city schools.
Coppers are a strange breed what idiot would ever offer to give up anything previously negotiated in a union contract to abolish residency? Ok hair gel alert! Here we go! Let's say you could move where would you go? Bueller! No idea correct? Would you be willing to pay triple your real estate taxes? Drive a distance? There would be no more "sgt my kids got a game mind if I slide by during the tour?" Would not be Allowed as it would be out of the city and easy for beepers to notice! Brother is in fleet and he said this was discussed when he city bought the airport all new k9 vehicles, and it was said that these vehicles would not be allowed to be taken out of the city to a suburban home using city gas! So the k9 guys would have to buy another vehicle park the police marked one in a district lot and go home!
You have to put the college degree on a shelf keep the memories of the parties and realize that it is never going to happen ever!
"He was questioned by the FBI several times, on the record. They had him lying dead to rights. For reasons known but to them and Daley, and perhaps a president and attorney general, he was never indicted."
Sorta adds credibility to Fitzgerald abruptly resigning his office as US Attorney, Illinois, Northern District.
He apparently did not like Obama, via Holder calling the shots on how/who should be investigated/indicted.
He quietly left without 'giving up' his boss, sort of like the way our well-respected fire commish 'retired' as "it was time" only to accept another fire job elsewhere, almost immediately.
One could only hope a 'free-handed' U.S. Atty. could take care of Daley, Madigan, Cullerton, Quinn, et al and put some integrity back in Illinois/Chicago politics.
But then again....it's the "Chicago-Way."
You can win residency fight...you have to change state law...it can be done
I'm tired of you guys who think your time on the job equates to you being a supreme court justice...
We a union and lawyers that will not do a smoke and mirrors law suit....
I expect more out old timers!!!find solutions and stop bitching!!!!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They're saying RFK stole JFK'S brain. Who stole shortshanks brain?
10/20/2013 09:46:00 PM
Who said there was a brain to steal?
10/21/2013 12:04:00 AM
John Daley tried to steal it but failed. John settled for the unibrow look instead. Patrick wanted it too, his being eaten up by constant immersion in Russian Vodka.
Daniel Burnham never knocked up his girlfriend and gave her a restaurant in the park
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Daley needs to be in prison for the rest of his miserable life. Also, why in anyone's right mind would you name a park after maggot Daley. Don't tell me the wife of the little prick had no idea what was going on.
10/20/2013 06:44:00 AM
You wouldn't name a park after Maggie Daley.
Not unless you were an outsider, who just bought the position of mayor, who honestly believed he could sell the idea of a multi-million dollar underground garage repair by calling it Maggie Daley Park.
He never lived here, so he had no idea how people who live here really feel about the Daley crime family. His mistake was thinking Maggie was SO beloved here, the citizens wouldn't be outraged, because - after all - it was a park for their revered Maggie.
10/20/2013 04:43:00 PM
I went to see my proctologist to find out what has been causing all the itching, pain, bleeding and oozing of pus around my rear end. The doctor said I had a Daley growing down there, Maggie or Richy I asked. Oh, definitely a Maggie, you got a big fetid Maggie growing there; remember, we had the Richy surgically removed two years ago he told me.
So it looks like I will have my own beloved Maggie asshole access surgically removed soon. I hope they give me good pain killers.
Senile, Crafty, Felonius?
Gosh, that's a tough one!
All of the above? and then some
You can win residency fight...you have to change state law...it can be done
I'm tired of you guys who think your time on the job equates to you being a supreme court justice...
We a union and lawyers that will not do a smoke and mirrors law suit....
I expect more out old timers!!!find solutions and stop bitching!!!!
You are right. Residency can be changed if you change the state law, thats pretty easy to do and no problem. I dont understand why the old timers have never thought of that, just change the state law, and while your at it maybe Rahm will have the state law changed protecting the diminishing of our pensions
This statement is true enough, but the courts were only in Illinois and it was many years ago. Courts in other states have thrown out residency requirements. And, times have changed even in Illinois. I have since retired and moved out of the city. But, I believe it would be worth a shot to sue over this matter. But, it would take and should take many city employees of every department to get in on the suit. Include the teachers in this matter.
Hard to get the teachers involved. They are never really fired for that, have all sorts of exemptions, even now like if you teach a certain subject or if they teach in a field where there are few teachers. A few years back the head of the CPS lived in a northshore suburb and they gave him 3 years to move in
Also maybe 15 years ago the re enforced the residency for the teachers which was always in affect and caught so many that they allowed them to stay in the suburbs because their principal allowed them to do it
Similar to the fire department inspectors that were spared because it was a long standing tradition to pad your time and mileage expense sheets.
It's been done before, yeah, so? It's a different time and the city is in a different state of disarray. We are the last of the major cities to have this dumb law. It's a different time. We would win. Other cities set a precedent. Find out who their lawyers were...not rocket science.
When you find out who the lawyers were, please post it on the blog
Let a Copper fucking DARE to serve up the same word salad with bullshit vinagrette under oath that Daley got away with doing.
That ass will be in a fucking cell so fast...
10/20/2013 12:44:00 AM
Not true when it comes to a deposition. Burge went to jail for lying in a federal civil deposition, which was a rarity in itself.
You are right. I dont understand where the police do not understand you cannot go to jail for not remembering, only lying. They just dont get it You are right about Burge
Better to look stupid by being unable to remember than in jail for lying
So what's the next step? How do we go about getting a lawyer, etc? Never sued anyone before, but willing to try to do something. Lots of cops will say, "yeah, count me in after you do the legwork." Not ripping on those guys, because I say the same thing, but what is the first step to get the ball rolling? Times are a changin' and this should be changing too.
Yeah, the homes aren't worth as much in Mt. Greenwood and Garfield Ridge, however, you can get a whole lot more house in a more open area in the suburbs for what you pay for the overinflated shit shacks we have in the crappy city. If you have a working spouse and you are willing to take a hit on your house and have it in the other spouses name, you might be alright, unless you take a bath on a home that both of your names are on. Remember, you can rebound from foreclosures. What is the upbringing of your small children worth to you? Guess its sacrafices that need to be made.
How do we begin? Old timers or readers with a law background care to chime in? There will be some that say it's ridiculous, I'm sure, but no risk no reward. Duke is pretty much in your backyard at this point. Chicago sucks and it's not the same place it was 13 years ago getting on this job. It's so much different. At least in the burbs you'd have a fighting chance to show your kids a bit of a nicer life.
went to see my proctologist to find out what has been causing all the itching, pain, bleeding and oozing of pus around my rear end. The doctor said I had a Daley growing down there, Maggie or Richy I asked. Oh, definitely a Maggie, you got a big fetid Maggie growing there; remember, we had the Richy surgically removed two years ago he told me.
So it looks like I will have my own beloved Maggie asshole access surgically removed soon. I hope they give me good pain killers.
10/21/2013 03:43:00 PM
Hysterical shit man. How long did you work on this drivel? Goof.
Bull shit. What cushy district do YOU work in where the Sgt let's you "slide by" the kid's game? Get real! Nobody mentioned giving up SHIT! What was mentioned, brain trust, is abolishing the law as every other major US city has done with regards to residency. Not saying on a public forum where I would go, but I know EXACTLY where I would go, and I have NO qualms about making the ride everyday FOR MY FAMILY. Ever hear of Sirius radio? I can listen and drive and be completely content with a drive. Hell, what's the difference if I'm a north sider and got dumped down into 005?? NOTHING! Still an hour drive. Lot's of things that would "never happen" on this job have happened. So open yourself up to change.
Anonymous said...
Coppers are a strange breed what idiot would ever offer to give up anything previously negotiated in a union contract to abolish residency? Ok hair gel alert! Here we go! Let's say you could move where would you go? Bueller! No idea correct? Would you be willing to pay triple your real estate taxes? Drive a distance? There would be no more "sgt my kids got a game mind if I slide by during the tour?" Would not be Allowed as it would be out of the city and easy for beepers to notice! Brother is in fleet and he said this was discussed when he city bought the airport all new k9 vehicles, and it was said that these vehicles would not be allowed to be taken out of the city to a suburban home using city gas! So the k9 guys would have to buy another vehicle park the police marked one in a district lot and go home!
You have to put the college degree on a shelf keep the memories of the parties and realize that it is never going to happen ever!
10/21/2013 11:50:00 AM
Blame Daniel Burnam...
Dead 100 years...
That's nothing, McDufass was blaming the Pilgrams, dead how many years?
I agree that residency should be out, but to paraphrase a previous poster, things might not be what you think in the suburbs. Taxes are about double, and you do pay extra for water and sewers. He is also correct about many suburban schools being infested with drugs. Everyone should be able to live where they want, but the grass is not always greener in suburbia.
Texas? Not sure how well you will fit in down there. Don't cotton to strangers, particularly Yankees. Good luck.
This is a nice distraction from the mess Rahm created. Anything to get people focused on the Daleys and away from the Emanuels not knowing how to run a city but good at selling it off. The Emanuels are now doling out your money to the friends and family of Rahm and Ari. But hey, the Daley story needs to be the headline.
I know lots of Chicagoans who moved to Texas, they love it and have no problem. It's not like the movie Deliverance. Chill out.
Residency beef, the bottom line is the city shouldn't completely control where u live!!!
You may want to send ur kids to school in the burbs away from mass shitheads...just a thought..
Lastly, the city gets millions of hours of free police service from us living in the city, they are getting a great bang for there buck!
Yankees with the right attitude are more than welcome in Texas and other states populated with upright people.
The problems begin when the yellow-pinky liberal socialist democrats who fled their utopias in California, New York and Illinois get a wild hair across their asses to "fix" and fuck with things that they ought fix or fuck with...
Note the transplanted moon-bats from California pushing their anti 2nd Amendment bullshit in Colorado after overrunning Denver and Boulder to establish liberal socialist havens in those cities.
We must guard against these corrosive fucks ruining the rest of this republic with their nanny-statist, yellow-pinky, pandering bullshit.
These m/fers are wholly unable to live among others and keep their bright fucking ideas and fucked up tendencies to themselves.
Anonymous said...
Let a Copper fucking DARE to serve up the same word salad with bullshit vinagrette under oath that Daley got away with doing.
That ass will be in a fucking cell so fast...
10/20/2013 12:44:00 AM
Not true when it comes to a deposition. Burge went to jail for lying in a federal civil deposition, which was a rarity in itself.
10/21/2013 10:18:00 AM
Not at all rare. Ever heard of Loevy & Loevy? People's Law Office? Flint Taylor? There are more. Their bread and butter are Federal Civil suits. For $$. Flint Taylor sued on behalf of one of the Wilson Brothers, murderers of PO's Fahey & O'Brien. Asked for damages of One Dollar. ($1.00)
Got the One Dollar awarded to his client. Then sent the City a legal bill, signed by the judge, for one million bucks. And got paid. Rules are different in Federal Court.
I got sued for job related incident in Federal Court. Not fun. I knew I was right but at no time was I certain we would win. We did win and it held up on appeal. Then I retired.
Congradulations and good luck, wish you the best
10/21/2013 10:14:00 AM
Remember the little red line that popped up when you wrote this? It means something.
When I retire I will remain in this city. I have always liked Chicago, I was born and raised here. Prior to becoming a police officer I never imagined living anywhere else. There was a point in my career where I developed a dislike for the city because of politicians, the Department and all of the dregs of society we are exposed to. I have come to realize that my dislike was misguided... When you are exposed to the daily stresses of a police officer, you can become hypersensitive to what amounts to minor irritants. No city is perfect and Chicago's suburbs are far from perfect. They pay higher property taxes, they maybe buried by snowfall for days and their police and fire departments are no comparison.
Hang the fuck.
"...Someone hire a lawyer..."
Don't let me stop you.
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