McCarthy Clashes with Aldercreatures
- Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy said Thursday he’s using his “discretionary” promotions to ease a shortage of African-Americans among police brass, but it’s not happening fast enough to satisfy at lest one black alderman.
In a heated exchange, West Side Ald. Jason Ervin (28th) complained about a decline in the number of blacks in the police department’s exempt ranks during McCarthy’s tenure.
Ervin was equally unhappy about the paltry number of black sergeants, detectives and captains and about McCarthy’s decision to bypass black candidates for the job of Harrison District commander.
Ervin, the son of former 011 District Commander Claudelle, got his job completely through political connections, but he's going to bitch about someone else getting a job the same way? And it isn't really O'Grady's fault he was assigned to 011 - it's a step down from Narcotics we imagine. But McCarthy has made no bones about putting the wrong color Commander in the districts: Ric Flair (white guy) is the Deputy Chief of 007, Jones (black) got 020, O'Grady (white) got 011. It's actually entertaining to see the aldercreatures fall back on skin color, contrary to everything MLK Jr fought for (content of character vs color of skin, etc.) Way to hold your people back and keep them in political chains! One trick ponies.
Keep up the theater boys.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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One day people inthis Country will be judged by the content of their character...
Promotions must be based upon politics, and skin color/race, never on merit or experience. Well also maybe a little bit on who can whoop and holler the loudest.
A festival of idiots.
Everyone is racist, but the police go to jail if they are. Welcome to bizarro world. It's crumbling people, and fast.
I hate to admit but it's true. Look at how many clouted/non-working White police are LT's & above compared to the # of Blacks working in the ghettos. If this department is mixed, it should be reflected in all ranks. No one cares when it's 70 percent White from LT. & up but if it were 70% Black or Hispanic.... WHOOOOAHHH!!!!!!
That's all these ass wipes think about is race. They are so affixed on it. Can you imagine the outrage and daily media storm if a white alderman said that about promoting more white bosses or having only a white commander in 016? Stupid fucks in Chicago politics. Thank God this guy is only a lowley alderman and 1 of 50. So no one really cares much what he has to say.
Paris Schutz of WTTW says that this is the indication that the Black Caucus in the city council is aligning against Rahm for the 2015 election. This is gonna be great! And, by the way, how does McCan'tCount say with a straight face that paying coppers time and a half premium pay (to the most senior officers and therefore higher base pay) to work VRI is anywhere more cost effective than just plain hiring? He's merely puking up Rahm's narrative. So 71 million budgeted for 2014 overtime will end up being over 100 million. Oh, and I'd like to know; when Gary farts, does the stink come from Miniotis?
only reason Chief RIVERA is still in IAD is because he is hispanic,otherwise total box of rocks,,,,
Theatrics. Rahm keeps his office if he wants it.
the voting public, and even most blacks don't give a f*ck who runs the 011th district.
they don't seem too concerned that a white guy who never lived here keeps saying we have 12500 police officers, crime is low, homicides are at their best level since 1964, and the very constitution itself might actually be part of the reason the conspiracy to kill blacks by flooding their communities with guns is so successful.
Well the alderman is correct there should be more african American in upper management . Good job Alderman Jason Ervin . Alderman chairman Carrie Austin fabulous job you showed this piece of shit Supt Garry F Mc Carthy who is boss now Garry JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!! . Mc Carthy looked like a little baby . Hahahahahaha .
How soon we forget
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/15925374-418/story.html
It was funny to see Mc stupid got bitch slapped by a F/1 alderman! Too funny! Welcome to our world asshole!
Oh dear! This thread for some reason makes me think of Commander B West.
"One day people inthis Country will be judged by the content of their character" Not in our lifetime I'm afraid.
If only the black politicians in Chicago were actually in position to hold anyone back...black, white, whatever. They've been happily accepting whatever crumbs the Machine has tossed their way for many decades.
I'm proud of the Superintendent. Good for him. Finally someone is standing up to these Alderman and their race bullshit.
Reverse racism is alive and well.
Why do we even celebrate mlk day if no one wants to follow his example?
Ervin will be indicted soon for illegally spending and then lying about it in his old Maywood political stomping ground. Toss that salad!
Anonymous said...
only reason Chief RIVERA is still in IAD is because he is hispanic,otherwise total box of rocks,,,,
11/01/2013 03:55:00 AM
Obviously you never worked for or with Rivera. One of the hardest working bosses in the Department and a really classy guy. Your knowledge is based on anecdotes you heard in some locker room or bar and now you've got the huge balls to beat the guy up anonymously on here. Go back to your mommy's basement, you turd ...
The following are tweets sent by Ald Willie Cochran while McCarthy was getting grilled by Ald Ervin over minorities as supervisors.
@ALDERMANWBC: Merit Promo's were meant 2 correct mbalance in representation of minorities and women.Not been used efficiently as intended since inception
@ALDERMANWBC: Union agreement affected and changed intent of merit. restricted percentages of each group. There by never being able to correct numbers
Blacks make up approximately 12% of the US population, but they want 50% or more of the jobs/promotions in the workplace simply for being black. It's pretty ironic that MLK fought to have blacks judged on the content of their character, not the color of their skin, yet today they're fighting for the exact opposite. When all else fails play the race card. No one in the MM will ever call this what everyone knows it is. Pathetic.
Chief Rivera was one of the best cops I ever worked with and for. He is one of the few voices of reason in a largely clueless exempt rank.
... a shortage of African-Americans among police brass ...
Why does it have to be a "shortage"?
Who says black police are not consciously choosing to avoid the higher ranks?
With the nonsense policies coming from City Hall and 35th street, maybe they see that being called into a monthly Compost Meeting and being blamed for all the world's ills isn't a very attractive proposition
Make the position more attractive to people and they will attempt to attain it
Another interesting exchange between mcjersey shore and Ald about McCarthy saying police department is fully staffed with 12 500 police
: @AldermanSposato asks if 12,500 number for CPD staffing is rock solid. McCarthy pauses and does not answer. Not so solid I guess.
Anonymous said...
only reason Chief RIVERA is still in IAD is because he is hispanic,otherwise total box of rocks,,,,
11/01/2013 03:55:00 AM
Yes and he reads the blog everyday hoping his name is not mentioned.
"Flooding communities with guns".
I think there are more guns in 016 than 011.
Blaming a machine for the behavior of people is idiocy.
affirmative action means you are admitting that you are inferior and unqualified.
Anonymous said...
That's all these ass wipes think about is race. They are so affixed on it. Can you imagine the outrage and daily media storm if a white alderman said that about promoting more white bosses or having only a white commander in 016? Stupid fucks in Chicago politics. Thank God this guy is only a lowley alderman and 1 of 50. So no one really cares much what he has to say.
11/01/2013 02:23:00 AM
Just try to elect a white secretary of state of Illinois. That is considered a "black" spot now. Like the CTA and Post Office.
When Claudelle Ervin was the Commander of 011 was he able to reduce crime?
If I recall all he could do was pray with the residents and then go pig out on bar-b-q!
The alderman desires to return to the good old days of no service to the community but lots of praying for a miracle.
"If this department is mixed, it should be reflected in all ranks"
Why? The racial mix of the department does not need to be reflected in the ranks. The ranks should be made up of the people most qualified to hold the different positions. I'm certainly not saying that the most qualified people hold the ranks now. I'm just saying that it's absurd to say that certain races NEED to be equally represented in each rank. Why should people get positions based on their race? What does that have to do with how well they will do their job? This department is so fucked up and is historically based upon promoting those whose only qualification is who they know. That pisses everyone off. So why would it be ok to hold positions for people of different races, based solely on their race, if they aren't the most qualified? How about a representation of the most qualified individuals in our ranks? That would be a nice change. It might actually pull this department out of the death spiral that it's currently in.
McCarthy is an Idiot. Emanuel is evil. The public for the most part is stupid. Horrible combination for you guys. Happy to be gone but miss all of you!
Ret. Lt.
Another reason to cut the number of alderman in half
I hate to admit but it's true. Look at how many clouted/non-working White police are LT's & above compared to the # of Blacks working in the ghettos. If this department is mixed, it should be reflected in all ranks. No one cares when it's 70 percent White from LT. & up but if it were 70% Black or Hispanic.... WHOOOOAHHH!!!!!!
11/01/2013 02:02:00 AM
We saw that experiment already... Detroit. WHOOOAHHH!!!!
Paris Schutz of WTTW says that this is the indication that the Black Caucus in the city council is aligning against Rahm for the 2015 election. This is gonna be great! And, by the way, how does McCan'tCount say with a straight face that paying coppers time and a half premium pay (to the most senior officers and therefore higher base pay) to work VRI is anywhere more cost effective than just plain hiring? He's merely puking up Rahm's narrative. So 71 million budgeted for 2014 overtime will end up being over 100 million. Oh, and I'd like to know; when Gary farts, does the stink come from Miniotis?
11/01/2013 02:35:00 AM
Because it's not just the base salary that's taken into account (pension, health care, tuition reimbursement, etc...). Plus, this gives the city the ability to increase/decrease the manpower without flack from the media running headlines like... "city layoff 100 police due to budget when murder rate at highest in years".
McCarthy is now publicly in denial, telling the public that there are more than enough officers working, despite the fact that the City is already slated for $93 million for overtime costs. Here's my question: when a public official is either too stupid to get it, or is just outright lying, does he still deserve the trust and employment position he was given? I think not. Otherwise that makes the public stupid or in denial, also.
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I hate to admit but it's true. Look at how many clouted/non-working White police are LT's & above compared to the # of Blacks working in the ghettos. If this department is mixed, it should be reflected in all ranks. No one cares when it's 70 percent White from LT. & up but if it were 70% Black or Hispanic.... WHOOOOAHHH!!!!!!
The true problem is lack of black sergeants getting promoted to sergeant that aren't merit. Many of those who are merit are idiots and then get promoted to Lt by merit too and guess what then merit exempt rank. That is the real problem with this department. The truth is if your as good hard working black cop who has a good head on his shoulders and can make it to the sergeant rank and get recognized your going to move up. Not the same thing can be said for a white guy.
Mlk got stoned walking in Chicago, Harold Washington almost lost to a republican, so now in 2013 things are even and fair?
On another cheerful racial note. Next month the state will start issuing Illinois drivers licenses to illegal aliens. What could possibly go wrong? The plan will probably have the intended consequence of boosting the voter roles.
Ervin is race baiting piece of shit! How about the right person for the job, in spite of race creed or color. I applaud McCarthy, and everyone should, for standing up to these aldercreatures on this.
Chattering Charlie McCarthy once said to Edgar Bergan,
" if it wasn't for the strings you pull, I'd be nothing but a useless log ".
GMac must wore out his St Stabina pulpit welcome. He's not blaming Pilgrims anymore.
West Side Ald. Jason Ervin
is a dirty bird. He can't truss no cracka commander to make sure things go HIS way. It's all about dem Benjamins
Commander West of 015 is a good reason not to over promote. You should be promoted because you are quilified and not a merit promotion. You have to able to read and write Alderman Irvin
Transparency right? Show their full resume to the city council as well as to the citizens of Chicago.
It would make our department look (more) laughable when it comes to promotions.
All in all, it was nice to see Garry get "owned" by a no-name Alderman. If Garry were smart, or better yet a smart ass, he should have introduced Ervin to the 2 M-1's to his right wearing the scrambled eggs. Instead, he looked like a whiny Biotch. I loved every minute of it.
Mix it up ,we must work together!
the voting public, and even most blacks don't give a f*ck who runs the 011th district.
they don't seem too concerned that a white guy who never lived here keeps saying we have 12500 police officers, crime is low, homicides are at their best level since 1964
11/01/2013 04:01:00 AM
So tell me again about the news picking up months ago that the black caucus was against McCarthy?...I mean tell me in conjunction with your most blacks don't care about McCarthy doing what Rahm tell him to speech.
Have another drink Garry
If you have to absolutely positively promote someone simply because he's black let it be Fred Waller.
Anonymous said...
One day people inthis Country will be judged by the content of their character...
11/01/2013 12:09:00 AM
Today is not that day. Tomorrow isn't looking very good either.
Anonymous said...
Everyone is racist, but the police go to jail if they are.
11/01/2013 12:39:00 AM
Congrats! That may be the least intelligent post I've ever read on here. Someone get this man a merit promotion and task force assignment, stat!
I think The Alderman is 100% right. We should have all black commanders and supervisors in predominately black districts and all white in white districts, including officers. That is what they want so give it to them. I will be happy to be reassigned to a predominately white district.
Anonymous said...
I hate to admit but it's true. Look at how many clouted/non-working White police are LT's & above compared to the # of Blacks working in the ghettos. If this department is mixed, it should be reflected in all ranks. No one cares when it's 70 percent White from LT. & up but if it were 70% Black or Hispanic.... WHOOOOAHHH!!!!!!
11/01/2013 02:02:00 AM
First, your numbers are wrong. Second, what is the percentage of merit white to non-white compared to the number of employed. I can guarantee you it's heavily skewed to the non-white. Third, only a small minded racist person sits around thinking about stuff like what you said. Who gives a shit what color a boss is? I only care is the person is a good boss. You are pathetic.
Get off the race bs- that's how most of these "minority" bosses got promoted in the first place. Look at Henny Penny- she's pulled enough stunts on this job that if she had been an m/2 blue shirt, she would've been fired ages ago. But even after beating on another PO and being arrested, her worst punishment was demotion to captain- still making six figures, big punishment there. Even among the POs, they don't mess with you if you are a dog m/1 or f/1; bosses are afraid of the "racial discrimination" beef. I'm not saying most of the white bosses are prizes either because they are definitely not, just that the whole city especially the police dept, operates heavily on the basis of connections and political benefit to the point of criminal. Black or white, I don't care what color my boss is as long as they treat us right and remember it's our asses on the line everyday. Unfortunately those are few and far lately.
im white and have to agree with ervin ,jones should had gone to 11 and ogrady should had gotten 20 race does matter i did my time in the hood and im in 16 protecting the home front i could give an f about both the south and west side
My Parents were born in 2nd World Ireland. Came here in the late 50's early 60's. There aren't enough 1st generation supervisors on the job. I'm obviously white and believe in 'The American Dream." That's not enough to merit me to supervisor?
Boo hoo, Alderscum. Take the test that U studied for. Be confident that U scored well not cuz of U'r skin color but the effort U placed on studying. I didn't use my skin one time while I was studying, but now they're flat out telling us it was the skin that mattered more than U'r attempt to gain and demonstrate knowledge of the job.
I'd rather see some1 who busted their ass studying w/a lower score then to see some1 make it due to their skin color.
There are few things that are legitimate in this Department but promotions will never be one of them.
For the person who commented by starting out with, "I hate to admit but it's true.", there far too many variables involved in who may qualify for what position. Using a mixed Department to justify making equally mixed promotions is just plain ignorant.
How far does this go? I know...let's hire until this Department reflects to racial make up of the city. And since you're stuck on race, let's also deploy officers accordingly. It's apparent that both you and Alderman Ervin believe race should dictate who holds what position and nothing else.
If you were just a little open-minded, perhaps you'd have a different take on things and none of it would have to do with race.
and the very constitution itself might actually be part of the reason the conspiracy to kill blacks by flooding their communities with guns is so successful.
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The 2nd Amendment is to keep the people armed for self defense and it is especially for keeping the government tyrants from abusing the citizen too much. An armed citizenry can fight back. They'll probably lose, but the cost is too high for politicians, blood in the streets from the populace fighting government will cause others to think about what is happening and possibly rally others to their side. No bully picks on someone that will fight back.
Since when is self defense a conspiracy?
Anonymous said...
only reason Chief RIVERA is still in IAD is because he is hispanic,otherwise total box of rocks,,,,
11/01/2013 03:55:00 AM
Obviously you never worked for or with Rivera. One of the hardest working bosses in the Department and a really classy guy. Your knowledge is based on anecdotes you heard in some locker room or bar and now you've got the huge balls to beat the guy up anonymously on here. Go back to your mommy's basement, you turd ...
Juan stay off the blog
Anonymous said...
If only the black politicians in Chicago were actually in position to hold anyone back...black, white, whatever. They've been happily accepting whatever crumbs the Machine has tossed their way for many decades.
11/01/2013 06:19:00 AM
Happily??? Now that's funny. Just have something not go their way. Protests, threatened boycotts, cries of racism, and, of course, the threat of violence if the aforementioned doesn't result in a successful extortion.
Anonymous said...
Well the alderman is correct there should be more african American in upper management . Good job Alderman Jason Ervin . Alderman chairman Carrie Austin fabulous job you showed this piece of shit Supt Garry F Mc Carthy who is boss now Garry JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!! . Mc Carthy looked like a little baby . Hahahahahaha .
11/01/2013 04:58:00 AM
Yeah, you gotta get yours!!! You fucking idiot.
Anonymous said...
affirmative action means you are admitting that you are inferior and unqualified.
11/01/2013 08:38:00 AM
You're 100% right, but the benefactors of affirmative action have no shame and don't care as long as they continue to get the things they feel they're entitled.
What a racist dog this Ervin is. Unbelievable. Does he think Obama should be removed from office? By his logic, a black man really shouldn't be the leader of a country that is overwhelmingly white.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I hate to admit but it's true. Look at how many clouted/non-working White police are LT's & above compared to the # of Blacks working in the ghettos. If this department is mixed, it should be reflected in all ranks. No one cares when it's 70 percent White from LT. & up but if it were 70% Black or Hispanic.... WHOOOOAHHH!!!!!!
If your black and a Lt. your guaranteed to become a boss, no matter how incompetent you are.
Anonymous said...
Well the alderman is correct there should be more african American in upper management . Good job Alderman Jason Ervin . Alderman chairman Carrie Austin fabulous job you showed this piece of shit Supt Garry F Mc Carthy who is boss now Garry JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!! . Mc Carthy looked like a little baby . Hahahahahaha .
I wonder if these good alderpersons use street gangs to get elected like the majority of the Democratic Aldermanic politicians in Chicago.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Mlk got stoned walking in Chicago, Harold Washington almost lost to a republican, so now in 2013 things are even and fair?
What's fair about electing a convicted felon who never paid taxes for 31 years, owed 25,0000. USC in utilliety bills. Was known for not paying for restaurant bills.
"If this department is mixed, it should be reflected in all ranks"
Why? The racial mix of the department does not need to be reflected in the ranks. The ranks should be made up of the people most qualified to hold the different positions. I'm certainly not saying that the most qualified people hold the ranks now. I'm just saying that it's absurd to say that certain races NEED to be equally represented in each rank. Why should people get positions based on their race? What does that have to do with how well they will do their job? This department is so fucked up and is historically based upon promoting those whose only qualification is who they know. That pisses everyone off. So why would it be ok to hold positions for people of different races, based solely on their race, if they aren't the most qualified? How about a representation of the most qualified individuals in our ranks? That would be a nice change. It might actually pull this department out of the death spiral that it's currently in.
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All good points, but are you fucking kidding me? Stop with the logic. Professional sports teams are REQUIRED to interview X number of "minority" candidates before hiring managers and head coaches. The Supreme Court had to decide whether or not race should be used as a preference in accepting applicants to the University of Michigan Law School. hiring and promotion exams for law enforcement positions nation wide had to be re-configured because minorities were not doing well enough. Don't work to raise the student, lower the passing score. Race norming, banding,
Affirmative action, call it what you want. Some very noted minority educators and business leaders have denounced the practice and have been vilified by by members of their communities.
To advocate for picking the best for the job is a noble idea, but it is tilting at windmills.
ittle Ervin is just like his old man. i worked worked in 15 back in the day when claudelle was the community service p.o. he has not made one arrest in more than 45 years. but it appears he fed his fatass son lots.
"One day people inthis Country will be judged by the content of their character..."
Unless a federal judge seals your record, in which case people will continue to quote you.
Thought this nonsense was over with. It should not matter on your race to get promoted. It should be based on knowledge and experience. Passing someone over for a promotion who is well qualified for the sake of satisfying a race quota is absolute bull shit!
Compare these two resumes from 005 6 years ago
White Captain with 30 plus years
Masters degree
Experience in IAD, Det Div. and Gangs
Teacher at a University and Promoted to Det Sgt AND lT OFF TESTS
Black Commander 16 Years on job Merit promoted every 4 years no patrol experience, Oh and a Graduate of Calumet
Yeah its legit
Who really gives a shit? 19P
Well the alderman is correct there should be more african American in upper management . Good job Alderman Jason Ervin . Alderman chairman Carrie Austin fabulous job you showed this piece of shit Supt Garry F Mc Carthy who is boss now Garry JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!! . Mc Carthy looked like a little baby . Hahahahahaha
Earn it, don't complain about it.
Just try to elect a white secretary of state of Illinois. That is considered a "black" spot now. Like the CTA and Post Office.
Shhhh. People don't want to hear the truth.
Mlk got stoned walking in Chicago, Harold Washington almost lost to a republican, so now in 2013 things are even and fair?
Hey,selective history guy. Which group raises crime in every area they come into contact with? I always forget.
I hate to admit but it's true. Look at how many clouted/non-working White police are LT's & above compared to the # of Blacks working in the ghettos. If this department is mixed, it should be reflected in all ranks. No one cares when it's 70 percent White from LT. & up but if it were 70% Black or Hispanic.... WHOOOOAHHH!!!!!! Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx cxccccccxxxxxxxx
What people who make this specious argument fail to realize is that the black and Hispanic population in Chgo is growing therefore there are more black and Hispanics applying so more of the minorities are rookies while the experienced veterans (promotional pool) are white. The higher ranks - Lt and above, or even Sgt - shouldn't reflect the entire dept. Maybe 15 yrs from now the Lts will reflect the current dept. complexion. You don't promote rookies to Lt. Don't ppl get this?!
I loved how the news stations were all showing how city council had McDrunkadunk on the hot seat and was blasted by an alderman and McStupid was trying to talk and was being hushed by the chairman. It was Freaking hilarious and I was laughing, thinking to myself, hmmmm Now he knows what its like to sit on the hot seat. Is this how it goes during compstat thursdays? Now he knows what it's like when he talks down to the command staff up on the hot seat. Hey McJersey how did it feel?
@11:25
There won't be any uproar. Rahm will continue his lipservice, will keep mccarthy as long as he wants, and the 011th district commander complaint by the alderman is a charade.
as I said, rahm doesn't lose his title over it because blacks don't care. How do I know?
You'll see the 'conjunction' between the black caucus voicing opposition to rahm, and my saying they don't give a f*ck, come election time when, as per the usual script, the opposition fades, and they get in line, assume the position, and do as they are told... or stay home, like always.
I'm not black but, honestly, I can't believe blacks and their so-called caucus, the reverends, the 'community leaders,' how do they not put up a strong candidate they can all get behind?
How does this city not have a black mayor?
How does a snide, utterly unlikeable, puny, repugnant, rat-faced, arrogant phony like stubby, not get challenged by any black candidate in a city that is essentially, supposedly majority black, and an electorate so supposedly 'progressive,' and liberal and democratic?
I'm a minority and wouldn't want to be promoted just because my color. It does nothing for myself or the community I may have to serve.
Is that. On tv or YouTube?
well...here's an idea: every command position, each and every one (commander, deputy, etc.) should be reserved for an african-american, without exception....the city should issue a rule, for this position, only blacks can apply and be appointed....then, let it all go (to _____).....
Chief JR is still a better street cop than most hairgels these days. He is constantly doing stops here in 004 whether 99 or 10-4. And has at least a half dozen or more 143a's this year. Classy guy all around!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I hate to admit but it's true. Look at how many clouted/non-working White police are LT's & above compared to the # of Blacks working in the ghettos. If this department is mixed, it should be reflected in all ranks. No one cares when it's 70 percent White from LT. & up but if it were 70% Black or Hispanic.... WHOOOOAHHH!!!!!!
11/01/2013 02:02:00 AM
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Wysinger is 1st Dept because of his abilities right?
The manikan is Sears' front window could do a better job.
WE have the best and brightest look at the recent Captains promotions.
Yes, the alderman is correct and just. The city should bring in the top police management from Harvey and Robbins and Gary Indiana to run the CPD.Mighe even reach out to Detroit for management help.
Yes, I vote for a competent leader and I say bring back Terry Hilliard. He was one of the smartest, most progressive and non-political superintendents in the history of the CPD. His brilliance, leadership and thinking outside the box led to the formation of a successful security company that has earned contracts based on their merit and skills. He promoted based on competence never thinking about race.
Anonymous said...
"One day people inthis Country will be judged by the content of their character..."
11/01/2013 07:25:00 PM
Unless the content of their character doesn't produce the desired results. Then it is quotas and affirmative action. That character content shit is for chumps. It was just a horseshit speech.
look at the boss , deer in headlights , you think he could have been promoted under merit system
look into that mr alderman
Anonymous said...
Thought this nonsense was over with. It should not matter on your race to get promoted. It should be based on knowledge and experience. Passing someone over for a promotion who is well qualified for the sake of satisfying a race quota is absolute bull shit!
11/01/2013 08:26:00 PM
Are you new here? What's your problem? Have you not had your eyes and ears open these past 40 years?
Anonymous said...
What a racist dog this Ervin is. Unbelievable. Does he think Obama should be removed from office? By his logic, a black man really shouldn't be the leader of a country that is overwhelmingly white.
11/01/2013 05:13:00 PM
...except for that.
Anonymous said...
There are few things that are legitimate in this Department but promotions will never be one of them.
How far does this go? I know...let's hire until this Department reflects to racial make up of the city. And since you're stuck on race, let's also deploy officers accordingly. It's apparent that both you and Alderman Ervin believe race should dictate who holds what position and nothing else.
11/01/2013 03:00:00 PM
Does it work this way in the military? Are there black congressmen who howl that they need some black colonels and generals? How does that work?
Anyone who wants to talk shit about Chief Rivera couldn't shine his shoes!! I worked for and with that man when he was A/5DC and he is one of the hardest working coppers you would ever hope to meet hands down. Juan is a genuine good person and they should have made him Superintendent but because he has balls they did not. Juan will always help out another copper and usually you can find him at work 10-12 hours a day...every day. So before you talk shit make sure you know what your talking about because it's clear you don't have a clue. A/5 Gang Sgt.
@ 11/02/2013 12:14:00 AM
You speak the truth.
The very few blacks who don't buy into the perpetual victim mindset don't even want to be bothered with trying to point out an alternate path for the "masses" because the "Stinkin' Thinkin'" is so deeply ingrained to the point of being the major component of mother's milk.
From the womb to the tomb... Causative for the madness you see exhibited in the garden spots of this city.
The black community is NOT a monolith. There are blocs and factions...
But... Whenever there is someone who tells an uncomfortable truth, they ARE shouted down by the noisiest ones who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo...
Status quo being perpetual aggrievement assuaged only by multi-generational investure of everybody else's precious treasure being thrown into the flaming yawning chasm of social engineering, political correctness, yellow-pinky liberal do-gooderism/creeping socialism and flat out pandering to move such corrosive agendas forward.
Heh... Study well, every other large democratic urban center/yellow-pinky liberal utopia and notice how they try to gloss over the obvious deathly decay...
Rahm wants to "celebrate" the Great Chicago Fire... An obvious indication that these "smart and tech savvy people" have no answers to the real time bad shit that's happening right muthafuckin' now...
But damnnit, they're surely beating the shit out of a Police Department to show they're on top of things.
Not...
When vicious, cynical, self interested and brand perpetuating plantation politics makes a bed fellow of "Stinkin' Thinkin'" to the detriment of all others, you have fertile ground for the conditions that currently exist in Chicago.
*Lights cigar... Three finger pour of good rye whiskey*
Musings of an "old, dumb, brutal, heavy-fisted, uncouth, uneducated, hate-filled, racist" Patrolman...
*The Police are the problem in Chicago. As soon as we "fix" them, everything else will fall in place.*
The hearse of "interesting times" has crashed head-on into the camper full of "strange bedfellows."
Yes... The usual cast of noisy black characters will STFU and assume the usual position fighting for the make believe crumbs falling from the table.
And they will Damn to Hell anyone, let alone another black who calls them out.
Anyone who wants to talk shit about Chief Rivera couldn't shine his shoes!! I worked for and with that man when he was A/5DC and he is one of the hardest working coppers you would ever hope to meet hands down. Juan is a genuine good person and they should have made him Superintendent but because he has balls they did not. Juan will always help out another copper and usually you can find him at work 10-12 hours a day...every day. So before you talk shit make sure you know what your talking about because it's clear you don't have a clue. A/5 Gang Sgt.
Just to show how much your out of touch A/5 Gang Sgt. Really. Rivera is too shaky to be at 35th street for that many hours , he don't want to be around in case the someone needs to ask him a question. He don't have a clue he refers all questions
Anonymous said...
Yes, the alderman is correct and just. The city should bring in the top police management from Harvey and Robbins and Gary Indiana to run the CPD.Mighe even reach out to Detroit for management help.
11/02/2013 09:57:00 AM
Yes, don't forget to include Dixmore and East Chicago Heights. You would hurt their feeling if you did not ask them for their police management expertise.
@ 11/02/2013 10:04:00 AM
"...I say bring back Terry Hilliard..."
Ahhhh...
Ahhh-haaaaa...
Terry Hillard was no stunning intellect and he was threatened by any subordinate supervisor who was actually sharper and better educated than he was.
Especially black ones.
He put a brick on a lot of good people...
To 10/03/13 @ 1054am... How would you know unless YOU work in the house....mouse?? Maybe he is a lot smarter than you think...referring to others is how you delegate AUTHORITY NITWIT... He is a CHIEF NOT A MOUSE so therefore yes... he will refer to others because he is in charge goof. Juan Rivera is the real police and since you are so upset that he delegates to others maybe YOU should show everyone how it's done?? Oh, you would never do that because that would mean you would have to DO SOMETHING!! I am sure you will respond with all of your "war stories" now....straight from 3510...right?? What about the time you got that really bad paper cut remember that one?? LMFAO!! A/5 Gang Sgt.
Limit merit promotions to 1 time only. We have to stop promoting merit idiots all the way to the top.
The Manikan in Sears front window?
The nuns at St. Gabe's would have a field day with that one. Besides, they closed down my favorite Sears store.
Al is not a bad guy. He was a good copper, albeit with flaws (those of us in the know remember a support party at Ricks). He just got promoted way over his level.
If he was promoted off of his test scores alone, he would still be wearing a blue shirt.
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