Part II Study Material Problems
Like many of you, some of our number have started studying for Part II of the Sergeant Exam, even though scores won't be issued for another five weeks or so.
It has been brought to the attention of the group here that the study materials appear to be rife with bad data - incorrect info, partial answers, errors in construction and grammatical mistakes that would make Sister Mary Margaret rap our knuckles with a ruler if we ever turned in a paper like this.
All of this makes us and others question the credibility of the test anew and wonder at the possibility of invalidation again. Is anyone else, either in the study groups or on their own, discovering what had been brought to our notice?
It has been brought to the attention of the group here that the study materials appear to be rife with bad data - incorrect info, partial answers, errors in construction and grammatical mistakes that would make Sister Mary Margaret rap our knuckles with a ruler if we ever turned in a paper like this.
All of this makes us and others question the credibility of the test anew and wonder at the possibility of invalidation again. Is anyone else, either in the study groups or on their own, discovering what had been brought to our notice?
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
108 Comments:
Funny how A/North considers this a petty theft (misdemeanor again). What are the chances this guy has a felony conviction for a theft related offense which would have made the petty theft upgradable to a felony. Typical A/North bullshit blowing everything off they can.
Oh my god yes! I have zero confidence in the testing company and I went in optimistic . I fear I'll know the answer and get it wrong by their standard.
Anyone else thinking minority contractor? Who is really behind I/O solutions? With the way the first part was written and now this I'm willing to bet its someone connected to this half assed city. What an embarrassment, cant this fucking city do anything right?
Hmmmm...
Could this tie in with the complaints about part 1 being rife with errors?
Damn...
What if both components of the test were intentionally set up to where there really are no "correct" answers, only the "best" answers?
That means that the results can be tabulated and interpreted any way the powers that be see fit...
Rahm & Co. have no use for Policemen who can actually lead or are able to read, interpret or apply the law.
Such men are dangerous "free thinkers" who might get funny ideas...
I love the crybabies here saying how hard the test was and how the used confusing wording... It was a test. If your going to be promoted then you need to know the order front to back and should be able to answer the question however it was answered. That's the cpd way though, u think everything should be easy because you deserve it because your a "worker" in 011... Please, studying will get you farther on this test than talking about your dope pinch the other day on Madison and Pulaski. If you get more than 30 wrong you don't deserve to be a sgt just for the fact that you can't even study properly when given 9 months advanced warning that a test was being given. Cry all you want, this is a profession not a free ride. You don't make sgt because your a good guy or a worker.. It's because you know what to do according to dept directives. At the end of the day following the general orders keeps you safe from cr numbers, not the tuff guy f em all tuff guy sgt attituide. So cry all u want, blame yourselves, not the test
DG shut up before somebody smacks you.
Tons of grammatical errors, not to mention spelling errors on part 1 of the actual exam. Yet, we're being told that points may be deducted from our scores on the written exam for spelling/grammatical errors. Pot calling the kettle black?
Please refer to the movie "Idiocracy" as a current reflection of today's society.
YouTube search "Idiocracy test".
There you have it.
oh yea.... wrong names in questions, OH and they say they are NOT gonna use CPD forms, then flip the page and there is an ANOV, with messed up address on the ANOV question, oh and by the way SERGEANTS DO NOT sign off on anov's
My knuckles still ache at the thought of the penguins with a ruler.
I had many transgressions back in the day. The Father did not seem to mind.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Send it to the networks and see who have the balls to report the mess. How the city spends money on sub-standard material for your help in a promotional test, that is if we had a news media in this City.
I'm not really concerned. My 63 in part one is good enough to get me in on merit. That said, I would be pissed if I had to study and was given bad data. I hope it gets straightened out for you guys.
Avoidable aggravation.
I O Solutions prepared this exam on the cheap. They trusted that the Dept directives were accurate and properly written, without any validation. They claimed to have worked with subject matter experts - CPD members - but clearly did a poor job. I suspect Ladner had undue influence in their selection.
...and grammatical mistakes that would make Sister Mary Margaret rap our knuckles with a ruler if we ever turned in a paper like this.
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You got off easy...Sister Veronica smacked our asses with the pointer! Thank God it wasn't Father Paul!
C'mon SCC! Ineptitude in the police dept. and/or those hired to administer the test? Impossible!
Bwahahahahaha!
The main concern should be the following. According to the I/O Solutions study guide; "while this is not a source based exam, we have presented a list of written sources that will help you prepare for the exam". Huh? Try figuring out that double talk. So where do the answers come from? Once again in the I/O Solutions study guide, they state that in part A of the exam, the correct answer is one deemed correct by a group of subject matter experts. That is going to be very subjective part of the test. In part B of the test, it will be fill in the blanks, multiple choice, scenarios, etc. Part C they will ask you to list reports and correct reports.
So one third to one half of the exam will be subjective. I am studying hard for the exam. "See you at the top" as Zig Ziglar would say.
Sister Mary Margaret whacking your knuckles is not as bad as Sister Mary Elephant screaming in your ear.
I/F KMA
Overreacting at its best. A few typos throughout the study material. Nothing to worry about. If you can catch the typos, you're more than competent to study through it.
Will this part be in pencil too like last one ? What keeps someone from erasing my shit if I don't have the right last name?
Sounds like something that should be sent to Jay Leno on the tonight show. Let the whole nation see what we deal with.
Here's an idea. Save the money spent on administering a "fair and legitimate" test. Use that money to hire new police,stop wasting everyone's valuable time, and just promote those with the heaviest phone calls because that is what will happen anyway.
I was talking to a couple of the test proctors last month while we walked row by row looking for my seat, and they happen to mention that they get paid minimum wage and also help write up the exams for extra pay.
FYI, rumors about swat test are true. Work out and practice your shooting. There is no fudging the test, if you don't pass the standards, you fail. Can't say much about oral interview though but pass with great numbers there is not much they can do.
Marine test in march too. Looking to fill 14 spots in the unit that is extremely depleted. Get those water wings out and get swimming. Must pass standards test with no fudging like swat. Oral interview another thing
Any truth that Terry Hillard is on the board for I/O solutions? If so, what are the odds his kids make sergeant?
Ohare please come and get bs , he's parading around the parking lot in 22 with his rifle he's scaring the neighbors,
Mikey I got a spot with me in engle wood on midnights no more Gibson restaurants and shopping for shoes on michigan ave it Harold's chicken and Jj fish and your buying every night to pay for my retro check
Anyone know it it's true bs who left Ohare to 22 crashed his monster truck into the Taco Bell drive thru sign and speakers causing 80 ,000 dollars in damage
The Sgts at Ohare should have gotten commanders pay for dealing with this goof bs . Now 22 is getting punished
I love the crybabies here saying how hard the test was and how the used confusing wording... It was a test. If your going to be promoted then you need to know the order front to back and should be able to answer the question however it was answered. That's the cpd way though, u think everything should be easy because you deserve it because your a "worker" in 011... Please, studying will get you farther on this test than talking about your dope pinch the other day on Madison and Pulaski. If you get more than 30 wrong you don't deserve to be a sgt just for the fact that you can't even study properly when given 9 months advanced warning that a test was being given. Cry all you want, this is a profession not a free ride. You don't make sgt because your a good guy or a worker.. It's because you know what to do according to dept directives. At the end of the day following the general orders keeps you safe from cr numbers, not the tuff guy f em all tuff guy sgt attituide. So cry all u want, blame yourselves, not the test
DG shut up before somebody smacks you.
11/12/2013 12:43:00 AM
Would somebody please teach this jackass the difference between YOUR and YOU'RE. Never mind all of the other grammatical errors in this future sergeant's idiotic paragraph. YOU'RE just going to have to get him to understand that one little difference so he can at the very least approve the second grade level reports that are going to come his way from some of the coppers that couldn't pass the first part of the sergeant exam.
What's so ambiguous about the test questions or the study materials? "Just notify the Watch Commander" ...oops, it's Stattion Supervisor. I get it now.
– Legitimacy 101.
oh yea.... wrong names in questions, OH and they say they are NOT gonna use CPD forms, then flip the page and there is an ANOV, with messed up address on the ANOV question, oh and by the way SERGEANTS DO NOT sign off on anov's
Sergeants must write their initials on the bottom right of an ANOV. There is no designated place for a signature, but they do "sign off" on them.
This sounds like obamacare.
oh yea.... wrong names in questions, OH and they say they are NOT gonna use CPD forms, then flip the page and there is an ANOV, with messed up address on the ANOV question, oh and by the way SERGEANTS DO NOT sign off on anov's
11/12/2013 02:29:00 AM
WRONG. ANOV's are "supposed" to be turned into check off Sgt. Who is supposed to review for any errors. Then the Sgt is supposed to initial in lower right hand corner at bottom of the ANOV.
Classic example of how stuff actually works on a daily basis and what the G.O. says we are supposed to do.
Dont go by what is done on a daily basis. Go by what the order says.
READ THE ANOV ORDER AGAIN.
The bigger and much more important aspect to this whole testing process are the so-called "Subject Matter Experts" (SMEs) that worked with I.O. Solutions to develop the test. Who are these people? How much time do they have on the job? Where have they worked their whole career? What kind of educational backgrounds do they have? Have they ever held any type of management position before CPD? What's their disciplinary and complimentary background look like? WHAT QUALIFIES THEM TO BE "SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS"?
Seeing that thirty percent of sergeants are merit promotions, it's safe to assume that AT LEAST 30% of the sergeants contributing their "knowledge, expertise and experience" to IOS were merit pukes. Per a confidante who is close to this process, most sergeants that responded to IOS's request for SMEs had little time on the job, which equates to very little time in grade.
Unless you're fresh off probation or in a coma, you should be keenly aware that the majority of - not all - sergeants (both merit-made and rank order) are pretty much useless and inexperienced. Particularly ignorant of the day-to-day patrol sergeant's responsibilities are the ones that have been salted away in hidden, 'specialized' units for years and years. And for some peculiar reason, these folks seem to be the ones that dominate any given list of people notified to report to 'Sergeant School'.
THESE are the caliber of slugs submitting scenarios, decision-making processes and policies to the test developer. The poster at 229 AM referenced the ANOV scenario; whatever nitwit constructed the answer to the "Errors" portion of that practice response is dead wrong with his/her explanation that the "court date is too soon - must have 14 days b/w issuance & court appearance" (reference SO 04-22, Section VI-C for the CORRECT response, Sergeant SME).
I propose that every supervisor that assumed the role of SME in the development of this test be identified. Their name, rank and unit of assignment should be provided to everyone taking the test when the results are mailed out. Maybe they can take it a step further and break-down which SME(s) contributed their "expertise" to which question(s).
This way, those of us with intimate knowledge of any given SME's qualifications (or lack thereof) would be able to share them with the masses when we're collectively scratching our heads and discussing obscure and asinine assessment exercises post-test.
More interestingly, we'd be able to draw the lines between the most interesting kind of "Two Degrees of Association" - that of SMEs and the front runners on the rank order list. The "Confidentiality Agreement" signed by the SMEs is more worthless than Chicago's bond rating.
Is it true iAd grabbed a tact sgt from mass trans for the hush hush shooting in the tact office, he accidentally fired off a round while watching season 2 of the new Hawaii Five-0 on his DVD player than ran out if the station like screaming banchies
It also says that answers will be based on how the SMEs answered, not on the orders. Then why did they give us a reading list? Just because a majority of the SMEs answered a certain way doesn't mean they're right, it just means in their opinion that's what their response would be.
I/O solutions is not a minority/woman owned contractor, however like every city contract they need a certain percentage of work done by minority/woman owned business. I/O solutions did not administer test that was a company subcontracted by I/O solutions so that they met their minority/women owned business requirements.
Also contracts have requirement for minority/women employee participation as well as Chicago resident requirements that is why most of the proctors were women/minorities.
Usually the fraud committed is that the minority company is just a company created by an employee of the contractor. Such as female employee of I/O solutions creating a test administering company and I/O solutions knows what their getting so they subcontract the woman owned company created by one of their employees.
As I am now retired I am not up on the latest exam process, but if things have not changed, those who will be appointed merit do not have to take part II.
Another secret why were some CPD lts and capt up in Milwaukee last week developing a sergeants test for Milwaukee police? We have people that cannot even spell develop this monstrosity but Milwaukee? The Chicago way? Whose going with me?
Anyone else thinking minority contractor? Who is really behind I/O solutions? With the way the first part was written and now this I'm willing to bet its someone connected to this half assed city. What an embarrassment, cant this fucking city do anything right?
11/12/2013 12:17:00 AM
Why? Would you prefer white felons over black felons proctoring? Don't matter who the contractor is in your case because if you had any juice you wouldn't be commenting here. Here's a thought...no matter who gets the contract, black, white, woman, gay, alien..instead of whining about the contractor you'd be better off eyeing the elected officials who are actually responsible. The contractor owes you nothing...they owe the aldercreatures who pick them.
OT Do you need 60 semester hours as a requirement to be a sgt or a 4 year degree and do you have to have that requirement prior to taking the test or prior to being promoted? Saw on the comments conflicting comments about the requirements and time of meeting the requirements. Thanks
The Keesing Bandit said...
My knuckles still ache at the thought of the penguins with a ruler.
I had many transgressions back in the day. The Father did not seem to mind.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
11/12/2013 04:49:00 AM
I went to Lutheran school...we had leather straps for the palm of your hand and wooden paddles for "your backside"...good ol' fashioned teaching. And if you said your parents said no one could hit you, they'd hit you and tell you to tell your parents to transfer you to another school. Please...no keeses..you migth hve cooties.
Actually sgt do sign off on the Andover on the lower right corner. There is no space for their name and star but they put their initials and star on it. Must not have ever written a anov before
Anonymous Anonymous said...
oh yea.... wrong names in questions, OH and they say they are NOT gonna use CPD forms, then flip the page and there is an ANOV, with messed up address on the ANOV question, oh and by the way SERGEANTS DO NOT sign off on anov's
11/12/2013 02:29:00 AM
Oh, by the way...SGTs do have to review and sign off on the ANOVs. It was a BOP order several years ago by Eugene Williams...guess you got that one wrong.
O.T.
Does anyone know of:
"BlueLine" - The safe professional network for law enforcement
oh yea.... wrong names in questions, OH and they say they are NOT gonna use CPD forms, then flip the page and there is an ANOV, with messed up address on the ANOV question, oh and by the way SERGEANTS DO NOT sign off on anov's
Yes they do, they check them for accuracy and sign them before they go to the citation clerk.
just stay home on 11 jan you are to stupid to take the test
oh yea.... wrong names in questions, OH and they say they are NOT gonna use CPD forms, then flip the page and there is an ANOV, with messed up address on the ANOV question, oh and by the way SERGEANTS DO NOT sign off on anov's
OT -
It wasn't enough that the Admin. Mgr. of Academy had 3 days off she needed to take an additional day off today.
There isn't a week that goes by that she works a full week.
And for those that say grow a pair and contact someone; the IG says its an IAD problem.
IAD ignores or doesn't have the manpower to follow this one around.
She is very close to a certain Sgt. that works directly for the Supt.
Is someone there killing an investigation, who knows.
What is known is that she is a ghostpayroller that continues to steal from the city!
Thank you affirmitive action
The study materials are a mess and it does not bode well for the actual part 2 exam.
Here is one example of a few on what they actually think is right but wrong.
Looking at the shooting dog example. For the answer on what the supervising sgt should do, they have this as No. 7, "Assign an officer to be the reporting officer."
In Special Order S03-02-02, it states that the member who shoots the dog does the Miscellaneous Incident Exception Report. There is no need to assign anyone to do it when shooting an animal. But I/O solutions looks at the wrong special order in regards to shooting and pulls their answer from Special Order S03-02-01 (FIREARM DISCHARGE IN INCIDENTS OTHER THAN THE DESTRUCTION OF ANIMALS), which states under sgt. duties, to assign "an officer other than the involved member has been assigned to conduct the preliminary investigation, prepare the original case report"
That order is what you do when you shoot anything but a dog. Come on I/O solutions and Subject matter experts. If they can't get the answers right on questions everyone sees, how do you think the test answers will look, that nobody can ever see?
I can't wait until the majority of you 019 district clout babies on 03rd watch get dumped to midnights! Lmao
2:29:00 AM
Check your orders (hint-ANOV training bulletin). Sergeants initial and star# in the lower right corner.
Miscellaneous Exception Report and the uh..."Miscellaneous Incident Procedure Report"? Someone wanna direct me to that second one? Oh, and I know what an IL Traffic Crash Report is, but according to I/O Solutions there's also a "Traffic Crash Report" This instills so much confidence in the company.
"I love the crybabies here saying how hard the test was and how the used confusing wording... It was a test. If your going to be promoted then you need to know the order front to back and should be able to answer the question however it was answered. That's the cpd way though, u think everything should be easy because you deserve it because your a "worker" in 011... Please, studying will get you farther on this test than talking about your dope pinch the other day on Madison and Pulaski. If you get more than 30 wrong you don't deserve to be a sgt just for the fact that you can't even study properly when given 9 months advanced warning that a test was being given. Cry all you want, this is a profession not a free ride. You don't make sgt because your a good guy or a worker.. It's because you know what to do according to dept directives. At the end of the day following the general orders keeps you safe from cr numbers, not the tuff guy f em all tuff guy sgt attituide. So cry all u want, blame yourselves, not the test"
Hey Mister or Ms Smarty Study Pants....you are is NOT spelled as " your", it's "you're." But I guess you passed because you studied hard.
In their example of the Officer shooting the dog in the study guide....according to our G.O/S.O. there is no need to call IAD or IPRA for the destruction of an animal.
oh yea.... wrong names in questions, OH and they say they are NOT gonna use CPD forms, then flip the page and there is an ANOV, with messed up address on the ANOV question, oh and by the way SERGEANTS DO NOT sign off on anov's
11/12/2013 02:29:00 AM
Good luck on part 2. Sgt do sign off on ANOV. Suppose to initial them.
FYI, rumors about swat test are true. .......
Marine test in march too. ......
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Also a new Canine officer exam will be coming next year.
The department just got 4 new dogs and 4 officers will be made off this old list soon.
Last Friday, a meeting was held with Mc-Drunko.
He states he wants new exams for these spots.
Perhaps because more minorities "need to be made" for these spots.
Bottom line..
he wants officers promoted after the exams were given when he is boss..
WHY? Because as we know - his ego is so damn big.
Anonymous said...
I'm not really concerned. My 63 in part one is good enough to get me in on merit. That said, I would be pissed if I had to study and was given bad data. I hope it gets straightened out for you guys.
11/12/2013 06:02:00 AM
I suppose you are a clout baby. Or perhaps a political hack. Thanks for watching out for us little people that don't have clout, family connections or political juice. You are a poster child for what is wrong in Chicago.
To 12:43:00am
You no where to find me so come say it to my face!
Now go get your shine box bitch!
Marine test in march too. Looking to fill 14 spots in the unit that is extremely depleted. Get those water wings out and get swimming. Must pass standards test with no fudging like swat. Oral interview another thing.
I'll believe it when I see it. For the last test we turned the paperwork in and nothing happened. That was years ago.
11/12/2013 09:34:00 AM
Is this guy rifle qualified? If he is, get a life blowjob.
To 11/12/2013 10:39:00 AM:
If you had half a brain, you'd know that they did in fact post the listings of Subject Matter Experts as BOP orders in CLEAR - Document Management System. All of your questions regarding their ability to consult on a test will he answered once you look at the list. Maybe since you are so smart, you can take the SME list and see if it holds true to the 30 percent merit rule or if it was actually a majority merit.
I love all these pimple faced P.O.'s actually thinking they are Sergeants already! "Well..... per the General Order"
"It has been brought to the attention of the group here that the study materials appear to be rife with bad data - incorrect info, partial answers, errors in construction and grammatical mistakes that would make Sister Mary Margaret rap our knuckles with a ruler if we ever turned in a paper like this."
It's real world then -- like most of the case reports written by "the group here"
"I love the crybabies here saying how hard the test was and how the used confusing wording... It was a test. If your going to be promoted then you need to know the order front to back and should be able to answer the question however it was answered. That's the cpd way though, u think everything should be easy because you deserve it because your a "worker" in 011... Please, studying will get you farther on this test than talking about your dope pinch the other day on Madison and Pulaski. If you get more than 30 wrong you don't deserve to be a sgt just for the fact that you can't even study properly when given 9 months advanced warning that a test was being given. Cry all you want, this is a profession not a free ride. You don't make sgt because your a good guy or a worker.. It's because you know what to do according to dept directives. At the end of the day following the general orders keeps you safe from cr numbers, not the tuff guy f em all tuff guy sgt attituide. So cry all u want, blame yourselves, not the test"
Ummm, Does that go for minority applicants as well? Didn't think so.
Anonymous said...
Miscellaneous Exception Report and the uh..."Miscellaneous Incident Procedure Report"? Someone wanna direct me to that second one? Oh, and I know what an IL Traffic Crash Report is, but according to I/O Solutions there's also a "Traffic Crash Report" This instills so much confidence in the company.
11/12/2013 04:32:00 PM
19 paul.
Anonymous said...
Anyone else thinking minority contractor? Who is really behind I/O solutions? With the way the first part was written and now this I'm willing to bet its someone connected to this half assed city. What an embarrassment, cant this fucking city do anything right?
11/12/2013 12:17:00 AM
What I found
From the N.O.B.L.E. website
under their "sponsor" section for the 2013 conference.
I/O Solutions Fred M. Rafilson PHD
Passionate about selecting and promoting law enforcement officers with exams and assessments that are fair, transparent and valid. Removing discriminatory barriers to employment and promotion through the ranks.
And a $500 donation to Obama for America from Kimberly Rafilson on behalf of I/O solutions.
I'll keep my other comments to myself....so this will get published.
Anonymous said...
Thank you affirmitive action
11/12/2013 01:53:00 PM
Still blaming the black man for your failures. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps;work hard like the rest of us and maybe you can make something of your life. By the way,what was it called when only whites were hired as policemen and firemen? Answer:The "white" thing to do.
Off topic. - Shileds launched Bill Dougherty. Did it yesterday or today. Not sure. Dougherty is now assigned to 022. This has been confirmed by 022 administration. They don't know when he'll arrive for work but he's assigned there as of today, 12 Nov 13.
Overheard a big slob named muzzicrappa from 018 bragging about how Mike Shields has the retiree vote all wrapped up and thus the election. Muzzicrappa you are not really a cop because you were not aware of your surroundings when you were running your mouth. What has Shields done for retiree's? Under his watch our health care has gone up anywhere from $200-$600 a month.
Under Shields watch what has he done to protect our pension? Muzzicrappa thinks the Underwood lawsuit will save them. Think again we all know that lawsuit is all B.S. So Shields can say he did something but when the suit is lost we will get screwed worse than the actives with retro pay. GOOF
Well just found out they are using the "Bell Curve" grading for the first part of the Sgt Test but it will be done a little differently......it will be done by RACE. Honestly not that far fetched and was confirmed by a upper echelon in the Department. So they seperate all the tests by race.....then use the curve by race. So a m/1 officer could score a 50 and actually "pass" and a white officer could have scored a 70 but if the majority scored higher he might not make it. And worst of all of this you can't prove anything. Welcome to Chicago people, and if your white.....your all ready at a disadvantage. Good luck.
I'm I missing something? Do the orders state anywhere that you have to establish a crime scene for the destruction of an animal? It also says that the sergeant cites the man for he unleashed dog, why would the sergeant cite him?
A. Member Responsibilities
When a member discharges a firearm to destroy an animal, the member will:
1. notify OEMC, his or her supervisor, and the station supervisor in the district of occurrence.
2. complete a TRR and a Miscellaneous Incident Exception Report (CPD-11.419), Animal Bite Information report, or other appropriate report.
3. submit all reports to their supervisor for review and approval.
4. comply with all applicable provisions of the Department directive entitled "Incidents Involving Animals."
B. The OEMC will assign a supervisor from the district of occurrence to the scene of the incident and notify CPIC.
C. The assigned supervisor will:
1. determine if there is any related personal injury or property damage other than the destruction of the animal and, if necessary, ensure that the required report is completed.
2. review the TRR and sign it to indicate approval.
When other dispositions are impractical and a Department member uses a firearm to destroy a seriously injured or dangerous animal, the member will:
1. notify OEMC immediately and inform the station supervisor in the district of occurrence.
2. complete a Tactical Response Report (CPD-11.377) as outlined in the Department directive entitled "Weapon Discharge Incidents Involving Sworn Members."
3. complete and submit the appropriate case report or a Miscellaneous Incident Exception Report (CPD-11.419), consistent with the Incident Reporting Guide.
4. request ACC removal of the animal through OEMC.
If you get more than 30 wrong you don't deserve to be a sgt just for the fact that you can't even study properly when given 9 months advanced warning that a test was being given. Cry all you want, this is a profession not a free ride. You don't make sgt because your a good guy or a worker.. It's because you know what to do according to dept directives. At the end of the day following the general orders keeps you safe from cr numbers, not the tuff guy f em all tuff guy sgt attituide. So cry all u want, blame yourselves, not the test"
You R A dreamer if u believe that is why U get promoted and pardon the grammar A profession?, BS its a free ride for certain people and if u r that dumb that u havent figured that out, u dont deserve to b a sgt
Anonymous said...
OT -
It wasn't enough that the Admin. Mgr. of Academy had 3 days off she needed to take an additional day off today.
There isn't a week that goes by that she works a full week.
And for those that say grow a pair and contact someone; the IG says its an IAD problem.
IAD ignores or doesn't have the manpower to follow this one around.
She is very close to a certain Sgt. that works directly for the Supt.
Is someone there killing an investigation, who knows.
What is known is that she is a ghostpayroller that continues to steal from the city!
11/12/2013 01:35:00 PM
Looks like someone in the academy has a lot of time on their hands. Too much time. You should worry about yourself. Let other people worry about themselves.
Is it true the sgt. in mass transit who fired off his gun and didn't do any reports was taken in by iad? Is it true or just a rumor?
OT - O'Grady to Chief of Harwood Heights and Gorman to Amtrak. Way to go Garry, chased off two more bosses.
Anonymous said...
OT -
It wasn't enough that the Admin. Mgr. of Academy had 3 days off she needed to take an additional day off today.
There isn't a week that goes by that she works a full week.
And for those that say grow a pair and contact someone; the IG says its an IAD problem.
IAD ignores or doesn't have the manpower to follow this one around.
She is very close to a certain Sgt. that works directly for the Supt.
Is someone there killing an investigation, who knows.
What is known is that she is a ghostpayroller that continues to steal from the city!
11/12/2013 01:35:00 PM
Well honey, clout always rules. Those with clout are safe. maybe that is why no one wants to follow up on your complaints? As a suggestion, write a letter and give it to the new DC?
Code book. All codes Sgt
Lot of the pets on third watch in 019. Going to mids
To 12:43:00am
You no where to find me so come say it to my face!
Now go get your shine box bitch!
11/12/2013 05:41:00 PM
HaHa. I just did. Always been a fool.
You KNOW who.
The Keesing Bandit said...
My knuckles still ache at the thought of the penguins with a ruler.
I had many transgressions back in the day. The Father did not seem to mind.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
11/12/2013 04:49:00 AM
Just snorted a piece of corn into a lung.
Might be your funniest post yet KB!
Anonymous said...
In their example of the Officer shooting the dog in the study guide....according to our G.O/S.O. there is no need to call IAD or IPRA for the destruction of an animal.
11/12/2013 05:06:00 PM
You have to.call iAd because officer has to blow now when dog it shot
Anonymous said...
OT -
It wasn't enough that the Admin. Mgr. of Academy had 3 days off she needed to take an additional day off today.
There isn't a week that goes by that she works a full week.
And for those that say grow a pair and contact someone; the IG says its an IAD problem.
IAD ignores or doesn't have the manpower to follow this one around.
She is very close to a certain Sgt. that works directly for the Supt.
Is someone there killing an investigation, who knows.
What is known is that she is a ghostpayroller that continues to steal from the city!
11/12/2013 01:35:00 PM
Well honey, clout always rules. Those with clout are safe. maybe that is why no one wants to follow up on your complaints? As a suggestion, write a letter and give it to the new DC?
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Is she putting in time due? If so the it's none of your business. And is this all you have to worry about these days? Wow, got to love that academy drama. How about this, your at the academy, mind your own business and enjoy the nice spot you have.. Don't forget, there are thousands of mutts like me who have to work the streets every day.. Do you think any of us care about the academy inside drama????? Get a life you fool! If you can't stand having weekends and holidays off I will gladly take your place.. Some people just don't know how good they have it. You sir/ma'am are a complete handjob
OT - O'Grady to Chief of Harwood Heights and Gorman to Amtrak. Way to go Garry, chased off two more bosses.
11/12/2013 08:39:00 PM
Are you kidding????? Wow, Gorman was our only hope if this is true
I'm I missing something? Do the orders state anywhere that you have to establish a crime scene for the destruction of an animal? It also says that the sergeant cites the man for he unleashed dog, why would the sergeant cite him?
A. Member Responsibilities
When a member discharges a firearm to destroy an animal, the member will:
1. notify OEMC, his or her supervisor, and the station supervisor in the district of occurrence.
2. complete a TRR and a Miscellaneous Incident Exception Report (CPD-11.419), Animal Bite Information report, or other appropriate report.
3. submit all reports to their supervisor for review and approval.
4. comply with all applicable provisions of the Department directive entitled "Incidents Involving Animals."
B. The OEMC will assign a supervisor from the district of occurrence to the scene of the incident and notify CPIC.
C. The assigned supervisor will:
1. determine if there is any related personal injury or property damage other than the destruction of the animal and, if necessary, ensure that the required report is completed.
2. review the TRR and sign it to indicate approval.
When other dispositions are impractical and a Department member uses a firearm to destroy a seriously injured or dangerous animal, the member will:
1. notify OEMC immediately and inform the station supervisor in the district of occurrence.
2. complete a Tactical Response Report (CPD-11.377) as outlined in the Department directive entitled "Weapon Discharge Incidents Involving Sworn Members."
3. complete and submit the appropriate case report or a Miscellaneous Incident Exception Report (CPD-11.419), consistent with the Incident Reporting Guide.
4. request ACC removal of the animal through OEMC.
11/12/2013 07:42:00 PM
Yes you are missing something. Read the go and so for firearm discharge incident and go so for crime scenes. Don't limit one scenario to one order.. That is how u will pass part two. One scenario may play off five different orders and you have to take a little something from each order and apply it to that scenario and solution. Yes there is a order of what to do about shooting an animal but there are other things to do per other orders eg crime scene and firearm discharge incidents that scenario also plays into the orders regarding oemc and park districts... Hope it helps, study harder.
You no where to find me so come say it to my face!
Now go get your shine box bitch!
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Your not tommy from good fellas.. It's only cool when he says it.. Therefore, you just make yourself look like a complete pud... Sorry, you still loose either way
OT - O'Grady to Chief of Harwood Heights and Gorman to Amtrak. Way to go Garry, chased off two more bosses.
11/12/2013 08:39:00
Too good for Patrol?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Thank you affirmitive action
11/12/2013 01:53:00 PM
Still blaming the black man for your failures. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps;work hard like the rest of us and maybe you can make something of your life. By the way,what was it called when only whites were hired as policemen and firemen? Answer:The "white" thing to do.
11/12/2013 07:01:00 PM
__________________
That is what you people need to do, stop blaming other people for your failures. Take a proactive approach and do something for yourself. Have some pride. Lift yourselves up by your boot straps. The job is unfair. So, you have to work harder. Be a Doer.
oh and by the way SERGEANTS DO NOT sign off on anov's...
Actually, we do. We are to place our initials and star number at the bottom right to show we reviewed them for accuracy. BTW, there's no apostrophe in ANOVs.
Marine test in march too. Looking to fill 14 spots in the unit that is extremely depleted. Get those water wings out and get swimming. Must pass standards test with no fudging like swat. Oral interview another thing
Don't wear a diamond earring in each ear until after you get in. Who knows, maybe the Marine Unit officer wearing them on duty feels they provide him with more buoyancy or allow him to signal back when responding to vessels in distress.
In Special Order S03-02-02, it states that the member who shoots the dog does the Miscellaneous Incident Exception Report...
I understand that a Miscellaneous Incident Exception Report is called for in the orders, but that's not the real world. Good luck trying to do a TRR without an RD#.
I propose that every supervisor that assumed the role of SME in the development of this test be identified. Their name, rank and unit of assignment should be provided to everyone taking the test when the results are mailed out. Maybe they can take it a step further and break-down which SME(s) contributed their "expertise" to which question(s).
They were identified in a fax message many months ago.
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps;work hard like the rest of us and maybe you can make something of your life. By the way,what was it called when only whites were hired as policemen and firemen? Answer:The "white" thing to do.
11/12/2013 07:01:00 PM
Tell me affirmative action, welfare and food stamps hve been good for this Country. Tell me 60 years of hand outs has been good for generations of people that cannot work or think for themselves.
Tell me the Sharptons and Jacksons of the world haven't kept this going for their own personal gain. Tell me the politicians haven't kept them locked in this cycle against all reason for political muscle.
Tell me black families have REALLY benefitted from these programs in the long run. You cannot. It is the new form of slavery.
To 5:23PM......
No, not a clout baby or political hack.
After my first 10 years of driving around in a beat car I decided that I needed to start making friends on this job or I would be answering domestics at the 30 year point too.
I've made friends to better my lot over the years, and now to better my family's financial situation.
Try it, you may open a door or two and make this job more tolerable.
Is Gorman leaving for sure or is this just wishful thinking? Hate to see him go if true. SCC we're hoping this one is wrong.
Also a new Canine officer exam will be coming next year.
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I'm calling BS on this Canine rumor. The last test and list was put together in 2010. I hear Marine, ET and Detective.
Well, now we know how I/O Solutions got the work from Ladner. Incompetence follows incompetence.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Thank you affirmitive action
11/12/2013 01:53:00 PM
Still blaming the black man for your failures. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps;work hard like the rest of us and maybe you can make something of your life. By the way,what was it called when only whites were hired as policemen and firemen? Answer:The "white" thing to do.
11/12/2013 07:01:00 PM
__________________
That is what you people need to do, stop blaming other people for your failures. Take a proactive approach and do something for yourself. Have some pride. Lift yourselves up by your boot straps. The job is unfair. So, you have to work harder. Be a Doer.
11/12/2013 11:09:00 PM
Did affirmative action cause the poster to spell "affirmitive" incorrectly? The fairy tale continues.
Anonymous said...
OT - O'Grady to Chief of Harwood Heights and Gorman to Amtrak. Way to go Garry, chased off two more bosses.
11/12/2013 08:39:00
I dunno....Does Gorman have the age?
If true, both must have seen the writing on the wall for a while. It takes some time to snag those gigs, even with an "in".
You can easily do a TRR without an rd.
Also ACC does not handle dog removals. Streets and Sans does. It's in the order. Sgts's also need to obtain a log number from IPRA( or cpic on 1st watch). They also need to call IAD in order to conduct alcohol and drug screening for the officer immediately.
test will not be graded by race you idiot God I wish they would just so I could sue
Anonymous said...
OT -
It wasn't enough that the Admin. Mgr. of Academy had 3 days off she needed to take an additional day off today.
There isn't a week that goes by that she works a full week.
And for those that say grow a pair and contact someone; the IG says its an IAD problem.
IAD ignores or doesn't have the manpower to follow this one around.
She is very close to a certain Sgt. that works directly for the Supt.
Is someone there killing an investigation, who knows.
What is known is that she is a ghostpayroller that continues to steal from the city!
11/12/2013 01:35:00 PM
Well honey, clout always rules. Those with clout are safe. maybe that is why no one wants to follow up on your complaints? As a suggestion, write a letter and give it to the new DC?
************
Is she putting in time due? If so the it's none of your business. And is this all you have to worry about these days? Wow, got to love that academy drama. How about this, your at the academy, mind your own business and enjoy the nice spot you have.. Don't forget, there are thousands of mutts like me who have to work the streets every day.. Do you think any of us care about the academy inside drama????? Get a life you fool! If you can't stand having weekends and holidays off I will gladly take your place.. Some people just don't know how good they have it. You sir/ma'am are a complete handjob
11/12/2013 10:19:00 PM
Academy drama. Nothing to do but watch what others do every day. This must be females complaining about other staff members. This is like a soap opera, a never ending drama. Handjob, yes.
The Dougherty 11, will soon be the Dougherty 10, when the taper, is expelled!
Is she putting in time due? If so the it's none of your business. And is this all you have to worry about these days? Wow, got to love that academy drama. How about this, your at the academy, mind your own business and enjoy the nice spot you have.. Don't forget, there are thousands of mutts like me who have to work the streets every day.. Do you think any of us care about the academy inside drama????? Get a life you fool! If you can't stand having weekends and holidays off I will gladly take your place.. Some people just don't know how good they have it. You sir/ma'am are a complete handjob
11/12/2013 10:19:00 PM
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1) She's a civilian Admin. Mgr. = no OT for her so she has 0 time on the books.
2) How do you know I'm at the Academy? I could be a Mom at the school her kids attend, I be a civilian contractor, I could be the neighbor on the corner of her block, I could be her ex bestie. You assume too much.
3). She is a ghostpayroller - that equals a thief in my book!
Anonymous said...
Is she putting ................- that equals a thief in my book!
11/13/2013 08:03:00 PM
Civilians do get sick time and they also get v-time. Check the A&As and see what they code her, however they can see who logs in and looks at A&As. They probably already know your doing this and are tracking it. No big deal I guess.
""Miscellaneous Exception Report and the uh..."Miscellaneous Incident Procedure Report"? Someone wanna direct me to that second one?""
This has been bothering me since I read it and because I KNEW I saw it somewhere. THE INCIDENT REPORTING GUIDE. For certain jobs, in the report column, it says 'Miscellaneous incident procedure', which as WE know, basically means BS your way thru the job, no report necessary.
But the wizards at I/O solutions saw 'miscellaneous incident procedure' and figured there MUST be a REPORT that went with it, since it was mentioned so many times. So much for the SME's.
Kind of like asking who is officer "DOWN" on those beat cars that are't be manned.
Anonymous said...
Is she putting in time due? If so the it's none of your business. And is this all you have to worry about these days? Wow, got to love that academy drama. How about this, your at the academy, mind your own business and enjoy the nice spot you have.. Don't forget, there are thousands of mutts like me who have to work the streets every day.. Do you think any of us care about the academy inside drama????? Get a life you fool! If you can't stand having weekends and holidays off I will gladly take your place.. Some people just don't know how good they have it. You sir/ma'am are a complete handjob
11/12/2013 10:19:00 PM
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1) She's a civilian Admin. Mgr. = no OT for her so she has 0 time on the books.
2) How do you know I'm at the Academy? I could be a Mom at the school her kids attend, I be a civilian contractor, I could be the neighbor on the corner of her block, I could be her ex bestie. You assume too much.
3). She is a ghostpayroller - that equals a thief in my book!
11/13/2013 08:03:00 PM
I know what you are. A pain in the rear. People like you who beef on anyone and everyone. You must be a female something. They love to complain about everyone and not about them self. You really need to find something to do; like work.
You are really showing your ignoranance by making minority driven statements. You must feel threatened regarding your own capabilities and lack there of. Isn't it a shame that the majority that get pulled through meritoriously are " white". Hmmm wonder why? Because you barely passed part one dumb ass and you can't pass part two! And why does it have to be a minority company because you couldn't pass it? Well then what does that say about your abilities again and not being able to sort through/out bull? Not very much from what I can tell about all you whining babies! One day you will be the "minority"! And to all those who got a meritorious position who didn't deserve it ....karma.
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