Part One "Estimated" Scores
Curiosity driving this post. We've seen the supposed answer key floating around here and there and at least one version made it's way into our comment section in the post titled "Exam Results Coming 20 December."
Assuming it's mostly accurate, what did everyone get? We're hearing a lot of scores running from 77 to 85 or so. We're going to take a wild guess and say that based on our unscientific sampling, passing is going to be in the mid-to-high 50's....call it 57 or 58. Again, this is a guess on our part.
So what has everyone else been hearing? Post your estimated score anonymously and we'll see if the sampling holds up. We've got nothing else to look forward to until January on the testing front anyway.
Assuming it's mostly accurate, what did everyone get? We're hearing a lot of scores running from 77 to 85 or so. We're going to take a wild guess and say that based on our unscientific sampling, passing is going to be in the mid-to-high 50's....call it 57 or 58. Again, this is a guess on our part.
So what has everyone else been hearing? Post your estimated score anonymously and we'll see if the sampling holds up. We've got nothing else to look forward to until January on the testing front anyway.
Labels: promotions
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
180 Comments:
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86%
I scored a 71 according to that key which leads me to believe there was at least two keys used.
I heard they might do a sgt class 75 - 100 in late November or December
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Passing should be at least 70%. If you get more than 30 wrong then I don't know what to say. Yes test was hard but this test was announced along time ago. I am just saying.
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An uncomforting 62%
Actually the passing score IS going to be 70. That's the real deal. All clouted were told to take a test prep class and get into a "study" group with an "approved" leader.
40% Too many P.O.s of one certain segment did poorly on exam. The city isn't going to have a repeat of the 1995 CFD Entrance exam where M/1 candidates scored predominantly under the passing threshold. This is what I'm hearing....
this IO solutions is a JOKE. multiple errors , bad wording. questions that are vague with no clear direction. misspellings and wrong words in the study guide. /put stuff in this box but not that or you get no credit./ this test is a crap shoot regardless of how knowledgeable you are
90
Passing should be 80% w/ power test.
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75. I'm betting your right. 50's passing.
80...
75
Word is 47.
67 correct! I didn't care to count the number I got wrong.
68. You must know some smart people. Best score ive heard was 75 and almost everyone I know is in the 65 to 60 range.
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If this test is anything like the others, the first qualifying part of the process will be quite easy.
The minimum passing score will be the score of the lowest clouted merit candidate.
Separate the wheat from the (unclouted) chaff in the second part.
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What chief gave out the answers? Let's jam that person up.
between 67 and at most 82 split difference lets call it 75
It was 59 for the last sgt exam, so no surprise.
I heard that if you showed up and had a pulse you passed.
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"So what has everyone else been hearing?"
A lot of whining on how "hard" the test was from those who 1) admitted to not cracking order the first or 2) tried to cram the night before.
To those that fit either category, great news: the mean passing score usually hovers right around that of the dumbest pincushion polishing a helmet attached to a CPD Subject Matter "Expert". We musn't forget to factor in those that are placated before they even have a chance to play the Race Card (or whatever today's excuse is for doing poorly). What's all this mean? Means even your lazy asses should likely trudge onto Part 2. Congratulations!
Now for the buzzkill...
for those of you new to this process who actually sacrificed time, money and sanity and diligently studied? Well, prepare to be regaled with tales of test-taking prowess and good fortune once the results of Part 2 are scored and released.
Fort Fellatio Dollies with nary a day on the street past probation, folks from units that the majority of us will never have the clout/phone call to work and those with the Golden Ticket to extra-special, super-secret study groups will emerge at the front of the pack. Coincidence, no doubt.
That's what I've been hearing, SCC.
Mr. chevron received a score of 93.
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I got a 69. Oh wait, were we talking about test scores?
Now, kees me you fool!!!
I scored 105 because I got extra credit for good penmanship.
And now my Mom has the answer sheet, smiley face and gold star and all, on her refrigerator next to her shopping list.
63.
It's good enough to get me made.
70
I scored 65 out of 100. Hopefully that is good enough to pass and I can sit down for part two of the test.
SCC, don't forget, when it comes to those scoring 77 to 85. Those are the ones tooting their own horn. Obviously those who scored 40 to 70 are not going to open their mouth and tell others. Since it's an anonymous forum, my score was 70. I studied my ass off. But oh well, it is what it is. Good luck on part two.
Got 37 wrong. They are going to have to dip really low to let certain persuasions go on to part 2. Wink wink!
Not to worry. Those who were meant to become sergeants will make the grade and be promoted. Those who are lacking and of low moral fiber will not be promoted.
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64. Bernstein said 60-70 after questions tossed out should be passing
OT: Is this the last week scheduled for merit interviews? Sergeants class has been on hold because of merit interviews with Superintendent.
You cops are lucky. It took four(4) YEARS before the Chicago Fire Department released it's results of the last fire Lieutenants exam scores. FOUR YEARS! What is it about the City of Chicago and it's inability to hire and promote it's public safety professionals?
I still don't understand why the city just can't do it legit like they did for the second to last FTO exam. Maybe because nobody wants that job anymore?
Why can't you hold onto your test until your group is finished then tender it to the proctor then walk to the SCANTRON machine, feed the test paper into the machine and wait for the results and leave with a copy of your score on sight? How the fuck do they manage to conduct voting for the President of the United States, the Mayor of the City of Chicago and all general elections in one day? A few hours?
This job is such a farce. I mean do we really have to have an exact representation of black SGTS to black P.O.s to the number of citizens on the street? I don't know but if I were black or Hispanic and there was this 'curve' shit that had to be factored in to make rank I don't think I would really want it.
It's like the department says to the minority groups, "Well here ya go. You are too dumb to make it on your own." What a complete embarrassment this job has become. I guess earning the job is a thing of the past.
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I studied dammit and took a class. According to the answer key I got a 60, not very happy with the score. Let's hope the answer key is off a little. Save your stupid comments about this that and the other. I carried a 3.85 gpa through college and currently working on a masters, so I do have a little bit of brains.
The rainbow coalition percentages have to be equal, so I don't be surprised if there are 3 different cutoff scores. I think a better question is: how many are going to pass part 1? I say 3000
I scored an "estimated" 85.
I got a 87.
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I heard if you bubbled your name correctly on the scantron you will be eligible for part 2.
Per Bernstein he said passing is going to be between 65 to 70.
Heard they are throwing out ten questions and adding 10 points....my original score was 61.... no studying. Thought it was difficult. Not like last first part at all.
All this for just ten spots? That's all there is for those without a phone call.
OT God bless all of our veterans and a big thank you for all you have done, are doing now, and will continue to do for all of us.
65. No studying whatsoever.
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If the key posted in the comments was correct, I got a 78.
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I got an 84 per the answer key floating around. I am mad at how low the passing score is and here is why. I studied but I gave it no where near 100%. I didn't read half of the study materials (just the GOs and SOs). If I can get this score doing that then passing should be more like 70%.
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Have seen 3 different answer keys. My score ranged from 82% to 76% depending which answer sheet I used.
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Only the top 10 % should be allowed to take part 2
merit will be the high 50 , low 60 scores
On my lieutenant's exam 41 was passing. The lowest score was a 41. That person is now a meritorious commander (after being a merit detective,sgt,lt,cpt). All you have to do to pass is get a higher grade than a merit person. You should be able to do that by guessing.
Anonymous said...
40% Too many P.O.s of one certain segment did poorly on exam. The city isn't going to have a repeat of the 1995 CFD Entrance exam where M/1 candidates scored predominantly under the passing threshold. This is what I'm hearing....
11/11/2013 12:17:00 AM
Oh no, another racist test that they can't pass. No doubt it is culturally biased towards those who can read and comprehend.
How many multiple choice questions comprised the test (perfect score)?
In a previous pass/fail promotional test for lieutenant with candidates' race considered, the cut-off was 44 out of 63 or about 70 percent of a perfect score. Extrapolate.
I don't think I'll be getting any white shirts any time soon. Lol
60%
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If the answer key previously posted on this site is right..... I got 75 right.
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The test was written by a collaboration of graduates and drop-outs from Englewood High.
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I heard someone in Area Central got a 94. He must have been part of the secret study group going on there
I got 101 dummies.....
cmdr b. West
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Truth be told, we'll never know what the passing score is because those that get the lowest scores and continue on to part two will lie about they got and there will be no way for anyone to know what they did get. Anyone who thinks passing will be 70 and up should be psyched. Anyone who thinks it will be 60 and up should report to random drug and alchohol testing. Passing might be as low as 40%
IO Solutions prepared a horrendous exam. They clearly pissed away the money they were supposed to ha ve s pent researching the source material. I mean, (1 - 19 S), really?
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I got extra credit for spelling my name correctly.
OT:
"Citing economy, pension worries, Fitch downgrades Chicago"
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101186766
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The better question would be to see how many current CPD sergeants could pass this test...
I didn't look at one GO and I got a 92.
What makes this test more difficult than any other promotional exam is you have to study material for the role of a Sergeant and the role of a DSS. I don't even think rain man could get this shit straight. The amount of info that you have to recall from memory is ridiculous.
Ahem....I rarely speak my mind, but if you couldnt get a 70 on that test you "DONT" deserve to be a supervisor!!! This job already has too many bad actors who think they are legit! Nuff said
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98 on another note get you calls in airports bids coming 50/50 management vs bid make your calls. Big openings soon!
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125 Sgts the week after thanksgiving along with 40 Lts
83 and I studied...a lot. It was challenging even if you studied.
68 and I didn't study for 1 second. I'm betting if my lazy ass did study I could've cut that number in half. I was to busy drinking daquiris and chasing invisible penguins. O'Doyle i have a feeling your whole family is going down. But for now I gotta study.
79%
97
They can always grade it like the 1988 results. If you are male- subtract points-- if you are white- subtract more points. And then , if a certain type does not make it, march them into class after the classes started. A fairly well known deputy Superintendent was in the marched in group.
Heard they r making a class of 100 in dec. then the first class off the new list will be made sometime in 2017 & the next text sometime round 2020
Nice job to all of those who got 90% or better. Don't get pissed off when you see ones that passed with a 46% get promoted.. Nothing here is fair, but you will be able to hang your test results for the first part on the fridge & bitch for the next 15 years how you are smarted than all the bosses... Welcome to chicago
I got a 96. Opps, that was the proof on my bottle. Sorry!
I love the crybabies here saying how hard the test was and how the used confusing wording... It was a test. If your going to be promoted then you need to know the order front to back and should be able to answer the question however it was answered. That's the cpd way though, u think everything should be easy because you deserve it because your a "worker" in 011... Please, studying will get you farther on this test than talking about your dope pinch the other day on Madison and Pulaski. If you get more than 30 wrong you don't deserve to be a sgt just for the fact that you can't even study properly when given 9 months advanced warning that a test was being given. Cry all you want, this is a profession not a free ride. You don't make sgt because your a good guy or a worker.. It's because you know what to do according to dept directives. At the end of the day following the general orders keeps you safe from cr numbers, not the tuff guy f em all tuff guy sgt attituide. So cry all u want, blame yourselves, not the test
57, 58? Are you kidding me? How embarrassing. How can Department and City leaders acting in good faith, make 57 a passing score? That would truly be an embarrassment and would undermine the leadership of current and future supervisors within this Department. A 58 would be an unacceptable score in all other walks of life; you couldn’t get promoted at McDonalds with that score.
Anonymous said...
this IO solutions is a JOKE. multiple errors , bad wording. questions that are vague with no clear direction. misspellings and wrong words in the study guide. /put stuff in this box but not that or you get no credit./ this test is a crap shoot regardless of how knowledgeable you are
11/11/2013 12:18:00 AM
What really should be of concern is that in their own study guide they state the following. "While this is not a source based exam, we will provide you with sources that may be of help to you in the examination process". Huh? Try figuring out their own double talk.
The test should've been a Scan Tron type and could've been scored on site.
Then again the crooked department and city wouldn't want that.
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Most people i know seem to be about 65 - 75, including people who took classes, actually studied, and a few who didn't do a whole lot going into it.
That being said its amazing how the resident clouted idiot managed to magically get a 90.
125!!
Wait...... what do you mean Mr. Mayor...... I wasn't supposed to take this test?!?!?!?!?
(hic)
You gonna finish that beer.....????
102. I did extra credit.
Does it really matter? I got more wrong than correct and I am still going to pass because I got a Chief backing me. Stop crying about scores, how hard the test was and how many questions had bad choices for answers. This test is like any other in the past, those that have it (ME), got it, and those that don't, will work for me.
OT. Hey SSC. I was told today by BsBc that as of 2014 were now part of the Wellness Program for the city. did I miss something I thought we were exempt
The threshold for passing part one will be abysmally low. What matters is part two. If you study hard then you have a good chance of making sergeant. This test is completely on the up and up. If you read the study guide, you write down your test candidate number on all test material. So no one even knows who you are, your name or even how heavy you are. It's completely fair and honest.
74. I think it should be 60 and above
Pass. However we know the clouted
Need to get promoted and the minorities. Let's be honest everyone knows the rules and how this department works. I heard 47. I also heard legal is hard at work. So you know it'll be really low of a score to pass. Unfortunate for those that studied hard.
78. Not holding my breath.
I scored a 71 according to that key which leads me to believe there was at least two keys used.
11/11/2013 12:12:00 AM
It leads me to believe you're not as smart as you think you are.
73. Heard 47 is passing
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Anonymous said... I heard they might do a sgt class 75 - 100 in late November or December
11/11/2013 12:12:00 AM
Sorry to tell you the old list is done. The department has clearly noticed that the quality of Sgts from the last test is lacking.
Happy Veterans Day to all who served!
This test should be like the Secret Service test I took. Written passing score of 75% , follow by an oral interview w/panel of 12 people determining my faith and an exercise w/ scenarios that demonstrate leadership. What? You asked leadership? It doesn't exist in this department.
Ok right you know what I mean.ok I got a 97 alright ok
Anyone who claims to score 90% or better is full of shit
Dougherty dumped from FOP office today. Now in 022nd District. One down a bunch more to go!
I got a 105. Dunno how that happened. ;-P
40... as in ounces. That's what I drank instead of studying. I didn't take that bullshit test. Why? So I can go to a shit district and deal with all the rats on midnights? I'm happy where I am, eating cheeseburgers and drinking beer.
Anonymous said...This test should be like the Secret Service test I took. Written passing score of 75% , follow by an oral interview w/panel of 12 people determining my faith and an exercise w/ scenarios that demonstrate leadership. What? You asked leadership? It doesn't exist in this department.11/11/2013 03:28:00
So what happened, you pass??
82 and studied my ass off. Anyone else hear about the LAPA study group at Area Central?
Anonymous said...
I studied dammit and took a class. According to the answer key I got a 60, not very happy with the score. Let's hope the answer key is off a little. Save your stupid comments about this that and the other. I carried a 3.85 gpa through college and currently working on a masters, so I do have a little bit of brains.
11/11/2013 07:26:00 AM
Apparently very little.
I just read the Breimon complaint,WTF. Nice job that clout baby did to jam up half of 014 with his perverted BS.
We must vote Shields out!
Even a "dummied up" Sgt test almost 2 decades ago yielded only several qualified candidates. That's unfortunate, because they weren't looking for qualified Sgts. This is the same scenario to equal the playing field.
Nobody scored +90... 30% of your score was given as an entitlement to those who had less.
Anonymous said... I heard they might do a sgt class 75 - 100 in late November or December
11/11/2013 12:12:00 AM
Sorry to tell you the old list is done. The department has clearly noticed that the quality of Sgts from the last test is lacking.
U must be a fuckin moron to Make that comment
Anonymous said...
OT. Hey SSC. I was told today by BsBc that as of 2014 were now part of the Wellness Program for the city. did I miss something I thought we were exempt
11/11/2013 02:14:00 PM
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Don't listen to some schumk from BC/BS.
Trust me, if they were going to put us all in the Wellness Program in 2014 they would be getting you ready now.
Not that they are up on their stuff now but check with the FOP.
Cause it's after Labor Day .?
Dump this company! Don't pay them (city) and bring back Ernst& Young or someone that can do a professional job. RE-DO !!
its a weighted test.
Meaning every question is worth a different amount of points.
That is why it takes so long to grade.
If the city did not do this then a boat load of white males would dominate the top 500 spots.
So the testing company changes the points around till a number with enough minorities and women is created.
The average is skewed more by the number of people who seem to score near perfect. The answer key isnt passed out but the clouted can be given the 100 order to look at and study.
DAT AINT CHEATING RIGHT???
You guys really want to be Sgts. in this shit hole? Look around. Lessons wasted I guess. Dummies.
Is bernstein god or something on here?
Boy, I'm sure glad this site is so legit, To the master quoter who said Bill Dougherty from FOP was dumped today, well who dumped him, it's a holdiay and Tracey Ladner is off, so is the 1st deputy and Chief of Patrol, please let's not cheapen a real good site by BULLSHIT !!!!!!!
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FOP should request scores from sgt , lt, tests of all our current captains and command staff
the results would embarrass the city and police department
it won't embarrass the exempts because they know they deserved every promotion and were selected by Merit / Political System
So...... do you all still think its “easy“ to pass the test and be a sergeant? I took test in 2001 got promoted in 2006 scored in mid 200's. No clout , no phone call, nothing. Only person I have to thank is me. Took the city a year-year and half to put up new list i think first class promited in early 2003? Good luck to all and remember it CAN be done.... I did it.
Take it to the bank you herd it hear 1rd: 104 sgts will be made after part 2 is scored sometime next year.
Straight up no lie, I AM one of those in the special study group. I got a 92 and seriously I got WACK and you would do the same as me if you had it, and take it. I AM a worker but won't forget where I came from! People hated me when I drove the boss in the Lincoln.... I don't care. Go mustangs
Off Topic,
Once again our 2nd watch Lt in 011 calls in this morning and says he "cant make it in" and needs time. Wow! this is like the 13th time he did this in 2013..
Its perfectly ok for him to call in at last minute to take time and thinks its perfectly acceptable. But, if a PO calls in and ask him for time he has a shit fit and questions our reasons for it.
Could it be he was out with Richie scotch breath from 008 last nite?
Do as I(JA)say not as I(JA) do.
95.....I went to the review
The fire test in 1995: thevdepartment said passing was %67. That left an eligible pool of possible fire recruits who scored in the 67-100 range to go for further testing. The city, against the advice of counsel, decided to invite to part II those who had scored 87 or better. This left out a sizable number of African American candidates, thus, according to some, making it prejudicial. The court said that while demanding a possible recruit to pass the test is fair, the department was unable to say that scoring at the high end of passing would make someone a "better" candidate than someone who just passed. Ridiculous? I think so. But shortsighted on the part of the city as well who ended up paying big time.
So...... do you all still think its “easy“ to pass the test and be a sergeant? I took test in 2001 got promoted in 2006 scored in mid 200's. No clout , no phone call, nothing. Only person I have to thank is me. Took the city a year-year and half to put up new list i think first class promited in early 2003? Good luck to all and remember it CAN be done.... I did it.
"Bronx Ballbag".
I am still laughing and I want to see it on every thread!
11/11/2013 01:03:00 PM
Anonymous said...
I love the crybabies here saying how hard the test was and how the used confusing wording... It was a test. If your going to be promoted then you need to know the order front to back and should be able to answer the question however it was answered. That's the cpd way though, u think everything should be easy because you deserve it because your a "worker" in 011... Please, studying will get you farther on this test than talking about your dope pinch the other day on Madison and Pulaski. If you get more than 30 wrong you don't deserve to be a sgt just for the fact that you can't even study properly when given 9 months advanced warning that a test was being given. Cry all you want, this is a profession not a free ride. You don't make sgt because your a good guy or a worker.. It's because you know what to do according to dept directives. At the end of the day following the general orders keeps you safe from cr numbers, not the tuff guy f em all tuff guy sgt attituide. So cry all u want, blame yourselves, not the test
------Is this 011 Fillmore Ranger PS "I have a masters" - "Challenge accepted"
Dougherty dumped from FOP office today. Now in 022nd District. One down a bunch more to go!
Vote Guilty on Mikey and boom your out! Way to go Mike, you should run for Mayor. Mayor of Finkle Steel maybe?
There is a curve for each racial group. Then based on those curves and the averages, the passing score will be ascertained, which leads me to believe it will be around 45-48, if you go on prwvious tests experiences and lawsuits, statiscally the no argument or passing score will be 40-47. Right 35th st is hard at work on how to avoid the lawsuits from the usual suapects, especially that racist ervin fellow.
Oh btw, according to the curve I scred a 150% correct. How the f-ck that happened ill never know, hence ill give up my spot on the sgts list for those better qualified.
"Sorry to tell you the old list is done. The department has clearly noticed that the quality of Sgts from the last test is lacking."
Go away troll!!
Find it odd and funny that the bashers of Berstein are all signed up leaving the rest of us class 1 out on the street. guess i wont be out $600 bucks. Any recommendations on other study groups.
To those who keep complaining about the 1 - 19S question, yes it was confusing but if you actually look at the order it actually says 1 - 19S in the order. IO solutions did say they took the answers right from the wording of the orders. If you read the order you got the question.
Really guys...even anonymously you are going to lie about your scores..90s and above my ass!
Should have been a 14s. I have never ever heard a sgt use this! It should be one number with a letter that's how we normally code things. Nonsense questions that most sgt, good sgts, didn't even know the answer to. No card with codes handed out in roll call when order changed in April 2013. Gimmie a brake. I could think of a 100 more important questions to ask. The fact that everyone is talking about says something... If u it it right hy guessing, or reading the order and actually remembering, GREAT! Still a bullshit question!
I have personally taken the GRE and did very well. I have also completed the LSAT and did really well. But this test was a measure of nothing. It was a poorly constructed mess created by people who are not police officers and know very kittle about this department. I can not believe that police officers will be promoted supervisors based upon the successful completion of this test. What an embarrassment this department has become. Is this confucianism redux?
This test should be like the Secret Service test I took. Written passing score of 75% , follow by an oral interview w/panel of 12 people determining my faith and...
11/11/2013 03:28:00 PM
Your faith? Why would they care what your religion is?
just sayin
To the dumbshit asking about the wellness program: Yeah, you missed something. It was posted on the FOP website and sent out in an email blast. And you might be my sergeant someday? God, I hope not.
When was the test???
You are wrong in regards to the 1-19s. The wording on the GO states:
The appropriate Miscellaneous Incident Code Number (1-19), along with the letter S, (Sam), describing the police action, will be given to the OEMC dispatcher by the field supervisor reassigning an OEMC dispatch to the Alternate Response Section for policeservice.
Thus io solution interpretation is 1-19s, however the order states the appropriate code meaning 1 through 19 not 1 dash 19. which ever numeric code applies, i.e. domestic, disturbance, fire, etc. followed by S. None of the answer had 19S as the answer therefore this question should be thrown out.
I got an 88 btw.
Hey Mr. Boatload,you're a funny guy!! You are here to amuse us.
I urge everyone to take as many promotional exams as they see fit. However, never lose sight that the playing field is not level.
If you could not get at least 75% correct, you have no business being promoted dumb ass.
I scored negative 15...my clout told me that means I can skip sgt and go right to LT
can I get an event#?.....just saying
listen here hairgel lt ja assigned duties can be handled by a sgt , but a blue shirt in a beat car can not be assigned to a civilian , wtf
Rank has its privilege
Anonymous Kaiser said...
I heard if you bubbled your name correctly on the scantron you will be eligible for part 2.
11/11/2013 07:39:00 AM
LMAO!
Would like to see the Bronx Ballsack drown in his bubbles.
Wrong. 200 Sergeants the week after Thanksgiving along with 100 lieutenants.
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125 Sgts the week after thanksgiving along with 40 Lts
You are wrong in regards to the 1-19s. The wording on the GO states:
The appropriate Miscellaneous Incident Code Number (1-19), along with the letter S, (Sam), describing the police action, will be given to the OEMC dispatcher by the field supervisor reassigning an OEMC dispatch to the Alternate Response Section for policeservice.
Thus io solution interpretation is 1-19s, however the order states the appropriate code meaning 1 through 19 not 1 dash 19. which ever numeric code applies, i.e. domestic, disturbance, fire, etc. followed by S. None of the answer had 19S as the answer therefore this question should be thrown out.
I got an 88 btw.
11/12/2013 08:01:00 AM
You want to know the answer?
Any answer with a "1" in it is wrong. "1" is a domestic disturbance, this was not.
There was only one answer that did not contain a "1."
Class dismissed.
Huh, that answer contain X- which in this circumstances would not be appropriate. Seeing how a miscellaneous incident report would not be the correct report for a garage burglary. Apparently class has not started for you!!!
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"All clouted were told to get in a study group" who are you kidding? clouted ones dont need a study group. The friends of the clouted will be put in the correct study groups for sure. But real whack dont need to read
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