FOP Intimidation?
We're imagining that it's time to vote every single member of the current Board out of office. If it isn't the President screwing everyone over and lying about it for month, or the hand-picked jury clearing the President of wrongdoing, then it's the First VP allegedly intimidating anyone who dares to even think about running against his ticket (thanks to the unnamed board member who sent this over):
We removed the heading as it contains personal information of the Officer and the signature line for the same reasons. But this is a damning letter and shows the obvious disconnect between a Board member that is supposed to represent Officers and someone who is concerned only about his reelection. We noticed the allegation that he had the lawyer-who-shall-not-be-named as part of the conference call - that says to us right away that First VP was on shaky and shady ground even bringing this crap up.
Labels: FOP, un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:06 AM
135 Comments:
Anything to say now, Bill? You stuttering prick.
Dougherty, is toast!
WTF are you morons on Washington doing?
SCC, can you cut with the 'lawyer who shall not be named' b.s.?
Just call him by his name. Lord Voldemort. See, that was easy. No lightning strikes or anything. Voldemort, Voldemort, Voldem...
Damn. Maybe not. Disregard.
Great post. I hate to tell you this. But I told you so.
The Scam continues........
The Shield and Company has turned this into one of the biggest mockeries in the history of the CPD. Vote all these bums out. Extra pay draining our membership. Take home car. Deputy Chief's pay. Steak Dinners. All on our dime. Bottom line, he took food off my table.
Shield's should have the balls to resign. Can't you see brothers and sisters in blue he's a coward and a liar? The two worst traits in life, a Liar and a Coward. Vote him out!!!!! If this little boy had any integrity or character he would have resigned. Do the math, millions of dollars delivered to our disrespectful Mayor. Think of all the blue shirts before us that fought for all our benefits!! We owe it to them. We don't owe this Shield's punk not one damn thing. He's making $134,000 dollars on our backs. Unacceptable that he "forgot" to send the letter. He's making too much money off of us to forget an administrative duty. We have way too many stressors on this job including incompetent, shady white shirts and this is the treatment we get from one of own. Bottom line Brothers and sisters in Blue Vote this Mike "the scam" Shields out.
Retired Lt here... Remember what I wrote. Let me remind you again. By the way, how are these punks making a mockery of some of the best Police Officers in the country.
10/29/2013 09:31:00 PM
Retired Lt here. Where's all you're cocky remarks now. A closed FOP Hearing which cost you money. Remember what I wrote last week? Let me remind you. Why would you Blue Shirts let a nobody like Shields make fools out of you. The Real Police that I came on the job with would have forced this shit talking liar off of FOP and the job. What the hell happened to the Real Police? Are you that dumb? I'm glad I retired. You're letting a Giligan looking Shields make you look like idiots. "Oh I forgot to send the letter." Yeah right. Wake up CPD. I can't believe this is the Chicago Police Department that I spent 35 years on. Shields has turned this into the Clown Police Department.
Fucking disgusting.
Scumbag! Don't vote for Dougherty!!
Piece of shit says that to a veteran who's worried about his future and the only thing Dougherty cares about is making him get votes for him. Some coppers are no different than the shitheads.
Contact the state lodge and file a complaint. Time to get rid of this joker. Emergency Vote Shields Out Meeting to be held on the 12th of Novembef at FOP Halll at 1800 hours. More details to follow. State FOP gas been contacted.
Fuck you Shields!!!! You are done! We have a beat car in 003 on midnights waiting for you.
Off topic, check out Rahm get super pissed in an interview with Jorge Ramos on fusion.net. You can find the link on the drudge report. I'm to dumb to get link it through my phone. Watch the entire video the end is by far the best.
Bill Dougherty has had his - and only his - interests in mind ever since his little protective FOP bubble was burst by Shields and his guys moving in.
The Good Old Boys Club that Dougherty and the old upstairs regime (DiMaria, Aguilar and their hangers on) had grown accustomed to was turned on its head, and that resentment translated into them setting Shields up to fail.
There isn't a doubt in my mind (and many, MANY others) that the whole "letter" incident was orchestrated by the old regime to let Mike fall flat on his face. After all, he is the one that has to own up and eat any fuck-ups on FOPs part.
Rumor (and reliable buzz around the hall) tells of Dougherty's quest to defame Shields most recently manifesting itself by him talking a simpleton into recording that meeting and posting it on YouTube.
That act alone sums up where Bill Dougherty is coming from; the officer that pulled that stunt at Bill Dougherty's direction is now faced with a very hard choice: voluntarily leave the union / forfeit FOP membership no questions asked or face criminal charges and risk losing his pension.
Bill Dougherty pulling this shit with the injured officer does not surprise me or anyone that knows Bill's M.O. one bit. Bill is in survival mode and is doing exactly what rats do when cornered. Ditto the rest of the clowns that are supposed to be looking out for the memberships best interests.
Shield's heart, goals and ambitions were and are in the right place. It's pathetic and absolutely disheartening that the mixture of old and new didn't meld like it should have and every union member has to suffer because of it.
that's one of many reasons why I retired and gave up my membership
Does Chicago have no crime these days?
Dear scc:
We is wrong with everyone? I am so tired of politics everywhere I turn. Makes me sad that this officer feels this way. To the officer that wrote that letter: I am very sorry your union has done this to you. Carry on and still be proud of who you are and what you stand for.
Holy shit! We are in some very scary and dangerous times right now. All we have is the FOP to protect us and defend us and it seems as though it's been corrupted. What a fucking mess it is, full of self serving backstabbing clowns.
Well, I read the letter and it kinda pissed me off that the lodge would do that to this guy who served our country as this man did. But, then I sat and thought it out for a little bit. Follow me here for a second... This letter definitely sounds genuine and real on its face. It very well might be and more than likely is real and true. But now the "What if". Remember how the citywide team completely smeared the Nolan team? What if this is a carefully sent letter to SCC. What if this person and event doesn't even exist? Could it be that the other team is trying to smear the current team at the FOP? No need to really try they are F ups anyways. But what if the author who is admittedly for the other guy is just pulling this now to get his guy in as FOP pres? Could there be something in it for the Author if his friend gets into the FOP for writing this letter and "leaking it"? The letter was sent to the fop and then to SCC. It is a story told by one side only but is told in such a way that leads people to believe it is 100 percent fact because it is well written and "official looking" and including his girlfriend witness on speakerphone. Why include the girlfriend on speakerphone? What does that have to do with anything? Well, it is a literary "storytelling" technique used in theater when explaining a past experience. You mention the witness and third party to paint a picture of fact. Now, I wouldn't put it past dougherthy and shields to act like children but I wouldn't put it past other people to do this to smear up the current regime to win at election time... Think for yourselves. I hate shields, I hate doughtery and I wish all of the current FOP members to be ousted.. BUT!!.... I also like to think for myself. I want to make sure somebody is not trying to dupe me by playing emotions and sending out bogus stuff.. Ive dealt with that enough with BHO in office at the white house.. So, Is the well written, well crafted letter just just a brilliant plan to smear them and get his guy to win? Also, if you are so upset about this don't you think you would go to the FOP hall to get your point across in person at a meeting? Or a personal Phone call with him. Or why not say it during the 11 minute call in the first place? Why now all of a sudden is this letter getting mailed to SCC and to the FOP. This is the first time you thought that you would have a reaction and tell him off?? Or did time pass and it was a perfect opportunity to get dirt out there? Are you just being a pawn to get the other guy elected? If true, I think its a travesty how you are getting jerked around especially being a vet and member of this dept. I don't doubt you for one minute, and I want that to be clear. BUT in the political world people play dirty and I want to make sure we are not getting lied to with a "tug at the heartstrings" type of story. A convincing story and letter, but many questions and holes about the timing and intention of it all... also the odd response on paper instead of handling it in person where an immediate response from the lodge could be heard. fishy, very fishy sir. Mike Shields can still go F*ck himself.
I supported Shields and the rest but obviously that was a mistake. A house cleaning is in order. A large change must be made. This is bullshit.
I just wish the choices were more than Dean Angelo v. Shields. That is no choice at all in my opinion.
These are tough times for the FOP and we need a strong, confident, intelligent leader to steadfastly guide the union through in the face of a treacherous mayor trying to screw us all.
Neither Shield nor Angelo are the men for the job.
I read and comment on SCC on a regular basis. Sometimes, it is a real eye-opener to read about the clear lack of leadership and "lackey" mentality that permeates the whole organization.
What is needed is an objective perspective from the outside that is not biased and/or caught up in the everyday workings of both the police department as well as the union (FOP) to give a commentary of how some actions are viewed by the common man.
I read this letter with disgust.
We all know leadership is lacking and morale is low because of "politics" in city government but when you look at the union, it mirrors the city and is no better.
If this is the best FOP has to offer, then FOP needs to go. Better replace ALL those on FOP.
Better run some people that may not be so focused on themselves but focused on the betterment of the whole group.
Maybe you can't find anyone like that within your ranks. That's sad. One thing I would do - I would not re-elect anyone. Why reward bad service?
You might as well change everyone out because if this is the type of attitude you have within the union structure, you have nothing.
There is no leadership that I see.
It is a microcosm of the city government - self-focused "leaders" just seeing what's in it for themselves who continue to do the least for those they supposedly represent.
Not a LEO, JAFO
All I can say is, if the Dr the letter refers to is Prestin Wolin, then you have the best Dr in ortho. I would love to know where he is practicing now, and what plan gives us access to him.
Sir Donkey, ESQ.
That officer that wrote that is an amazing human being and deserves all of our help. Mike Shields is a piece of shit! Who voted for him?! Like Nobama, lots of buyers remorse for those that did. Shame on you Dougherty. As for Geiger, keep pretending you wear a Teflon suit.
WOW, what BS! Apparently some of those at the FOP think they are real Shitcago politicians. Just a bit of advice for our "elected" officials at FOP; you are NOT, Shitcago politicians, or should I say not supposed to be Shitcago politicians. You are supposed to be police officers looking out for the good of other police officers. Don't screw with this officer or you will be looking for a new spot after the next FOP election. He served this great country. DO what you were elected to do.
SCC you should not have put this up. I too was at that board meeting and this letter being up will hurt this officer. The non board member who sent this was grand standing for Dean Angelo. He didn't and doesn't care about the officer. This was explained to the board , but the officer that brought it up to the board didn't care.
Disgusting. Doing this to a war veteran!!!!!!F U Dougherty!! You need to go now.
Daugherty is a lying pos.
All of those that are associated with the current board of the FOP need to be replaced.
I do not agree that Dean Angelo Sr or Dean Angelo Jr tickets are the answer.
I will agree with Doughtery on one point and that is Everyone needs to do their research on Dean Angelo Sr before voting for him in the next election.
He DOES have a shady past with the FOP.
And I for one will NOT vote for Dean Angelo Sr or Jr (no time on the job - been a board member for the past 3 years with only 5 on the job)
Nothing about this is shocking. Everyone know BD is tied at the hip with Shields and another claim of Geiger should be even less shocking. All the websites and blogs in the world will not put the proper people in place in the FOP.
Unless the members take the exhausting 5 minutes to complete and mail the ballot in the next election, nothing will change.
I want to see all the candidates before I help chose our next FOP president, but the 1st person to come out and say Geiger will be fired and disclose how much he personally cost the lodge in legal fees for his actions will be a good start.
I know Paul doesn't read this blog, but if he did he better make sure the treasury doesn't show any funny stuff. Remember Paul liars figure and figures lie, but someone will follow the money and I bet it leads back to you. The treasure should be a little nervous if the books don't add up either.
What an asshole!!!!
I went to the meeting where a lot of people confronted Shields. A member asked the entire board that if Shields failed to send out the letter, then why the hell didn't they speak up yelling and screaming and write the fucking letter themselves and then take it to Shields desk and force feed him to sign it? Considering the importance of that letter to the entire membership. No one can give a plausible explanation. But they sure can point their fingers against each other. Vote each and every one of these bums out. Vote em out. Plus, ever since that incident I have become more informed and more involved about what goes on at FOP hall. It is incumbent upon you to make your union better. No one else can do it.
Children if you all can't play well together we're going to send you home!
If Shields and his boys are against Dean Angelo this much he has my vote for sure!
11/08/2013 02:54:00 AM
But it's on the internet so it must be true!!!
To the doubter - the letter is absolutely genuine, the officer worked with us in 014. The Dept is screwing him around terribly.
unfucken real....what a bunch of ball washing bastards at F.O.P. im hoping you assholes will be out soon,ya'll suppose to represent us and be our eyes and ears,,,,its more like the fucking opposite, bunch of pussies
what does Bill care??? that old bastard cares for himself along with the rest the useless bitches up there....
Fusion link with Rahm...
http://fusion.net/leadership/story/rahm-emanuel-heated-questions-president-gitmo-immigration-1
Bill’s mistake pure and simple. But it was his mistake and no one else’s. But don’t canonize Dean Angelo yet. Before Bill goes ask him about Dean Angelo. How did he come into the FOP office as a full duty field Rep and leave on disability? Why did we spend our first months in office going over the books? Why did we make Dean write a check back to FOP as he was shown the door? What did our audit find?
These old timers at fop are trying to hold in for one more term. Then they could retire and never have to hit the street again. They sold out the membership by putting themselves first.
They all need to go. All of them. Get rid of them. There useless. Send a message. Stop you're union dues.
Keep Shields and dump Doherty and his alter ego Donahue. D&D have been planning this for long time. Mike stands up. We all know it. Mistakes yes. Was he too young to win when he did, probably yes. My interaction with him is that he has learned from his mistakes.
Unfortunately the history of the CPD shows we can't get together on anything because we either don't care, are too self centered, afraid of repercussions, etc. but it would seem that for once we and I mean Blue Shirts and White Shirts (Sgts/Lts)should band together and elect to join one representative bargaining union and start anew.
Well written officer. Anyone who knows the officer writing this knows he's been through hell and back just trying to stay on this job. All the while there are plenty of officers trying to be placed on disability for a hang nail. We need more officers like this hero. The union should be ashamed of themselves.
Thank you for your sacrifices officer.
We need to clean house. Period!!
I supported Shields and the rest but obviously that was a mistake. A house cleaning is in order. A large change must be made. This is bullshit.
I just wish the choices were more than Dean Angelo v. Shields. That is no choice at all in my opinion.
These are tough times for the FOP and we need a strong, confident, intelligent leader to steadfastly guide the union through in the face of a treacherous mayor trying to screw us all.
Neither Shield nor Angelo are the men for the job.
Good news. I'm hearing Tom McDonough is running for President. I worked with Tom in the past and he is exactly what this membership needs...no agenda, smart guy, a policeman's policeman....and not on this Board
Shields has stated on many occasions that he has his own table at Ruth cris steak house (when talking to the ladies) I saw him recently at the sergeants test, and he looks like he gained 70 lbs. please give up the table and go for a run or two and save us all a little fop money.
The officer who wrote this letter is one of the finest I have ever known. His integrity is impecable. If he says it went down like this, then it did. FOP needs to handle this. Rich A., this means you.
Geiger and Dougherty...the worst duo since Hall and Oates. Although they share a common song "Out of Touch...Out of time."
Yes...I knew I would be able to squeeze a Hall and Oates reference on this blog!
1:06 am is incoherent. Drunk posting?
It seems like you need a little digital audio recorder with a phone microphone every time you call FOP to record your call otherwise you will just be called a liar.
They are cheap on Amazon.
Bill did this officer an enormous good turn, and this is the thanks he gets? What have we come to?
Anonymous fair and balanced said...
1. The cooper is a real person not fictionalized.
2. He was aligned with the Angelo team thru a friend. An empty holster clout baby at the academy. Dean has had trouble filling out the bottom of his ticket. He’s only got everyone else’s left over’s there. That’s what Bill said after the last meeting.
3. The lodge did not do this to the copper Bill Dougherty did it alone.
4. Bill and Moriarty both should be put out of the union. That's fair since Bill has put at least three people out himself. Mark’s big plans a fallen thru. Donahue been the puppet master all along on this.
5. Billy hates Mike Shields but he hates Dean Angelo with every fiber in his body, but I do not know why.
6. Who jumps ship first from Team Dougherty? Aguliar? DiMaria?
Anonymous fair and balanced said...
Well, I read the letter and it kinda pissed me off that the lodge would do that to this guy who served our country as this man did. But, then I sat and thought it out for a little bit. Follow me here for a second... This letter definitely sounds genuine and real on its face. It very well might be and more than likely is real and true. But now the "What if". Remember how the citywide team completely smeared the Nolan team? What if this is a carefully sent letter to SCC. What if this person and event doesn't even exist? Could it be that the other team is trying to smear the current team at the FOP? No need to really try they are F ups anyways. But what if the author who is admittedly for the other guy is just pulling this now to get his guy in as FOP pres? Could there be something in it for the Author if his friend gets into the FOP for writing this letter and "leaking it"? The letter was sent to the fop and then to SCC. It is a story told by one side only but is told in such a way that leads people to believe it is 100 percent fact because it is well written and "official looking" and including his girlfriend witness on speakerphone. Why include the girlfriend on speakerphone? What does that have to do with anything? Well, it is a literary "storytelling" technique used in theater when explaining a past experience. You mention the witness and third party to paint a picture of fact. Now, I wouldn't put it past dougherthy and shields to act like children but I wouldn't put it past other people to do this to smear up the current regime to win at election time... Think for yourselves. I hate shields, I hate doughtery and I wish all of the current FOP members to be ousted.. BUT!!.... I also like to think for myself. I want to make sure somebody is not trying to dupe me by playing emotions and sending out bogus stuff.. Ive dealt with that enough with BHO in office at the white house.. So, Is the well written, well crafted letter just just a brilliant plan to smear them and get his guy to win? Also, if you are so upset about this don't you think you would go to the FOP hall to get your point across in person at a meeting? Or a personal Phone call with him. Or why not say it during the 11 minute call in the first place? Why now all of a sudden is this letter getting mailed to SCC and to the FOP. This is the first time you thought that you would have a reaction and tell him off?? Or did time pass and it was a perfect opportunity to get dirt out there? Are you just being a pawn to get the other guy elected? If true, I think its a travesty how you are getting jerked around especially being a vet and member of this dept. I don't doubt you for one minute, and I want that to be clear. BUT in the political world people play dirty and I want to make sure we are not getting lied to with a "tug at the heartstrings" type of story. A convincing story and letter, but many questions and holes about the timing and intention of it all... also the odd response on paper instead of handling it in person where an immediate response from the lodge could be heard. fishy, very fishy sir. Mike Shields can still go F*ck himself.
11/08/2013 02:54:00 AM
Why don't you go to the source? How many injured vets working the Area North Range can there be?
If this is straight up, I think its not too hard to find out the real story face to face if you are the real police. Every time I read this blog, and someone posts some anti-union member stuff, it always seems like there is a quick rebuttal. Whom to trust? If he would have initiated a verbal confrontation, would it have been ignored? Somehow I believe so. There are many underhanded people with an agenda who post on this blog, and it is good to question posts on here, but I would trust a military veteran much more than an FOP guy with much to lose who obviously posted this.
If I didn't know any better, I'd say the good people at SCC have a horse or three in the FOP election race. Otherwise, why act as a catalyst to help further divide the ranks?
Yes, I appreciate all the updates, we all do. But when they help create dissent amongst the rank and file, they are better off left unsaid. Most readers here obviously don't stay informed or participate regularly in union meetings or business, so they're ignorant to what's really going on. And while you try to bring truth to the uninformed, SCC, more offen than not all that happens is the water gets chummed for the feeding frenzy. You see that 9 out of 10 people here are calling for someone's head. Only one poster at this point has taken the time to dissect the information and make an educated assumption as to what might be going on under the surface.
You provide a terrific service, SCC. Don't let it be used against all you active guys gals or us retirees.
Happy holidays & cheers to you all. Please be safe out there.
- retired 2009
What a way, to treat a Veteran, for Veterans day. Daugherty, should be ashamed of himself, but he has no shame!
Putting all matters aside, you have to have your doctor release you to full duty status. It sounds like his doctor isn't willing to do it. This isn't the same department you came on. They don't care and it's unfortunate. Thank you for serving our country. This department and city went to shit. They don't give a damn about anyone.
There is no more TEAMWORK on this department. McCARTHY doesn't know how to lead. The training is horrible. Incompetent bosses and a union with no balls to stand up to these goofs. Can't wait to get out of
here.
Literally EVERY time I called FOP for advice during my career, I was treated like I wasn't worth their time. It didn't matter what administration it was, their condescending attitude toward the dues-paying membership was a constant.
So, I'm not surprised at this incident at all.
I can't wait to hear Billy Boy stutter through his explanation regarding the contents of this letter at the next FOP meeting.
That's 19 Nov for all you precocious lads and ladies. Show up and ask some hard questions. It's a lot more fun taking the microphone in person and lobbing some inquiries than pointing an anonymous finger of blame from the comfort of your keyboard.
I'll see all you big talkers there.
FOP = Forget Our Police. Ask not what the FOP can do for you. Ask what you can do for the FOP.
This is BS. This guy is just pulling a stunt to get his "partner" into office. Bill has always been one of the good guys. Anyone who has ever dealt with him know this. I'm calling BS on this one.
Bill Daugherty says, Thank a vet!
Shield's heart, goals and ambitions were and are in the right place. It's pathetic and absolutely disheartening that the mixture of old and new didn't meld like it should have and every union member has to suffer because of it.
You are either his brother,mother,wife, or girlfriend.Get your head examined either way.
There should be term limits for people assigned to the front office. In this current group, it should be 1.
Hoping there is someone that comes out to run for President. Dougherty, SHields,disability Dean are like the 3 guys in Animal House: Jugdish, Sidney and Clayton. Help yourself to some punch and cookies while our pensions and healthcare benefits disappear.
Just a little note for the person who believes its a political ploy. The author of the letter followed the correct protocol in submitting the letter to the union and having a meeting. It's unfortunate, that someone would go this far and post it on this blog.
Bill Bill Bill
"Oh what a tangle web we weave when we first do deceive"
Questioning the loyalty of a Decorated veteran because his FOP political opinion is contrary to your re-election bid.
The difference is that "He gave all " and you always " take all " as in $$$$ and credit for other individuals doing your job.
You are self serving and have been for over 9 years.
Drift off into the sunset and let another worthy individual serve the membership.
Good riddance
This is your "end of wach" so to speak.
Buy Billy, enjoy your D-1 pay in Mt. Deadwood.
PS Maybe you can lunch at Mc Donald's with that other loser Steve " lets exclude all retiree's from the FOP Board" Robinson.
Get rid of Shields. I'm sick of his BS. Nothing but drama with his flakey team. Show up at the Emergency Meeting at FOP to discuss our options on Sat.
Anonymous said...
If Shields and his boys are against Dean Angelo this much he has my vote for sure!
11/08/2013 07:34:00 AM
Thanks for your input Dean Jr. or are you one of the leftovers? Ask your day why we had to make him write a check to FOP on his way out of the door?
Anonymous said...
I do not agree that Dean Angelo Sr or Dean Angelo Jr tickets are the answer.
I will agree with Doughtery on one point and that is Everyone needs to do their research on Dean Angelo Sr before voting for him in the next election.
He DOES have a shady past with the FOP.
And I for one will NOT vote for Dean Angelo Sr or Jr (no time on the job - been a board member for the past 3 years with only 5 on the job)
11/08/2013 06:51:00 AM
So are you one of the people on Kevin's, Carlos's, Tim's or the shitter's ticket?
Daugherty and Shields tied at the hip? Put down the crack pipe!
Yea well I just got wind of our insurance changes....
I was told by my healthcare provider that city workers are going to get hosed.
Coverage will be going to 70% from the current 90%.
And that many of the benefits will be lost. Out of pocket will sky rocket.
How about it FlOP. What say you????
yeah well I'm sure this officer is a great guy like some have said but this letter ALSO reeks of politics too. Especially the second half. Re read it sentence by sentence and ask yourself if the wording doesn't scream lawyer wording type shit.
"stop FOP waste website or something like stopFOPWASTE.com"
-yeah sure, something like... like you honestly don't know
-the conversation only lasted 11 minutes, but but,, shaking,, it has stayed with me forever!
-typical lawyer text
- I felt threatened
really?
I'm not sticking up for BD here. But with all this shit going on at FOP lately and with the upcoming election, we all need to go over this stuff with a fine tooth comb. Politics are being played on both sides here now. And it's no different than Daley and Rham letting no crisis go to waste. Funny this letter also gets DA name in the spotlight who is also running. And yeah, you need to look into DA. It will make the working wanna cop puke.
I'm taking a closer look at everything now a days.
This shi t stinks.
Harold Brown asked hard questions of the board. They lied and removed Harold from the FOP. Dougherty with the help of Donahue are both liars. Harold was getting close to what is going on in the FOP. Asked the board how much the DIEMER cost us? Thanks Mark and Bill. No INTEGRITY!
Anonymous said...
All of those that are associated with the current board of the FOP need to be replaced.
I do not agree that Dean Angelo Sr or Dean Angelo Jr tickets are the answer.
I will agree with Doughtery on one point and that is Everyone needs to do their research on Dean Angelo Sr before voting for him in the next election.
11/08/2013 06:51:00 AM
Dean Angelo Jr only won his trustee spot on the board because he listed his name on the ballot as Dean Angelo. He purposely left off the Jr. That slick move worked, he got more votes for trustee than anyone else because many old timers thought they were voting for the father.
Slimy slick bastard. We don't need anyone who would pull off that shit.
We need someone who will do what the hell they say they are going to do.
I still have Shield's campaign literature where he promised complete transparency. That didn't happen. He said nothing about installing his friends who lost the election in the FOP office as if they won. Why have the election then? He just put in there who he wanted and fuck the rest of us.
I hppe that Dougherty saved some of his uniform allowance checks. He will be buying uniforms real soon.
Dump Dougherty keep Shields. You do know we have random drug testing don't you? Throw away the crack pipe obviously drugs have fried you brain. Dump everyone one in office and don't bring back a recycled guy like Angelo or we will get more of the same.
Geiger told Dougherty, only 59 comments. No one is paying attention. It will blow over.
Anonymous said...
If Shields and his boys are against Dean Angelo this much he has my vote for sure!
11/08/2013 07:34:00 AM
I think they were running before you dad started coming to meetings again. I don't think the negative stuff is coming from them, it sounds like most of it was coming from the old City-Wide Team. A lot of people like your dad the problem is his platform issues are not realistic in todays political environment.
Anonymous said...
Just a little note for the person who believes its a political ploy. The author of the letter followed the correct protocol in submitting the letter to the union and having a meeting. It's unfortunate, that someone would go this far and post it on this blog.
11/08/2013 01:57:00 PM
I disagree. The posted letter is informative and educational to us members. We need to know what's going on with the people we elected to represent us who are living very well on our dues. Elections are coming and things like this need to be known. Our FOP is a mess and we need to fix it. If it wasn't for SCC how elese would we learn about the secret behind the sceens BS. Does anyone think the FOP would put the letter in their news letter informing us? hell no.
Whoever wrote that letter seems like a true man of character. Very well written also. I hope it works out for you brother.
Bill Dougherty first went after the retirees, via Steve Robbins, and now a veteran. As a result, Stuttering Bill, has been re-assigned to the 022nd district. Let's see if he works a beat car, or is taken care of.
"Dougherty and Shields are tied at the hip" ????? Nice try whichever member you are of an opposing ticket. No you cant smear Mike Shields for this, this was all B D's
making, wishful thinking on your part that Mike Shields had the slightest thing to do with B D's
unacceptable behavior. B D brought this one on himself. This was only the latest example of Bill kind of losing it, if you attended the October General meeting you would have seen another example of what I am talking about. He has been acting really strange as of late.
Sad to see because he has done a lot of good for the Union in the past but now he seems to have lost it. I think Bill might need to take a "rest" somewhere, but tell him not to sign himself in anywhere as that causes problems with the FOI Card.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
All I can say is, if the Dr the letter refers to is Prestin Wolin, then you have the best Dr in ortho. I would love to know where he is practicing now, and what plan gives us access to him.
Sir Donkey, ESQ.
11/08/2013 05:49:00 AM
He's still a Dept approved ortho. He made my knees work right again.
Not hard to find: Center for Athletic Medicine
Address: 830 W Diversey Pkwy, Chicago, IL 60614 Phone:(773) 248-4150
Bill did this vet a solid more than anyone will know, except Bill and the vet. Anyone who knows the vet should ask him. This is nothing more than FOP political mudslinging, I am just surprised at how early it is starting.
Didn't you get the benefits package for open enrollment?
Only way your coverage will change is if city changes it for all.
Not going to happen in 2014.
Anonymous said...
Great post. I hate to tell you this. But I told you so.
The Scam continues........
The Shield and Company has turned this into one of the biggest mockeries in the history of the CPD. Vote all these bums out. Extra pay draining our membership. Take home car. Deputy Chief's pay. Steak Dinners. All on our dime. Bottom line, he took food off my table.
Shield's should have the balls to resign. Can't you see brothers and sisters in blue he's a coward and a liar? The two worst traits in life, a Liar and a Coward. Vote him out!!!!! If this little boy had any integrity or character he would have resigned. Do the math, millions of dollars delivered to our disrespectful Mayor. Think of all the blue shirts before us that fought for all our benefits!! We owe it to them. We don't owe this Shield's punk not one damn thing. He's making $134,000 dollars on our backs. Unacceptable that he "forgot" to send the letter. He's making too much money off of us to forget an administrative duty. We have way too many stressors on this job including incompetent, shady white shirts and this is the treatment we get from one of own. Bottom line Brothers and sisters in Blue Vote this Mike "the scam" Shields out.
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You forgot the new office furniture and the cashmere sweaters with FOP 7 logo.
God Bless you officer and thank you for you're service. FOP you should be ashamed of yourselves. Mike Shields you are not a leader!!! You will get tossed. I'm pissed off now knowing what FOP is doing and treating the membership. Shame on you!!! I am going to start contacting the media.
Anonymous said...
Fucking disgusting.
Scumbag! Don't vote for Dougherty!!
Piece of shit says that to a veteran who's worried about his future and the only thing Dougherty cares about is making him get votes for him. Some coppers are no different than the shitheads.
11/08/2013 12:38:00 AM
Not just a veteran, BUT a severly injured veteran. One that has endured a lot to come back to work.
Neither Shield nor Angelo are the men for the job.
11/08/2013 03:37:00 AM
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I agree with that.
Shields is done. He can't recover from the failed letter submission.
Angelo was part of several different regimes at the FOP. He was no different back then to what we have in Dougherty now.
He has a full time, well paying (more than the FOP pays) job with Calumet College, how can he run the FOP full time as well?
His son got on the board with a little more than four years on the job. Not enough experience (street or otherwise) in my opinion. I mean that he had no experience in order to sit on that board.
I will not vote for the Angelo team nor the Doughtery team.
Both are part of the problem with the FOP NOT THE SOLUTION.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I do not agree that Dean Angelo Sr or Dean Angelo Jr tickets are the answer.
I will agree with Doughtery on one point and that is Everyone needs to do their research on Dean Angelo Sr before voting for him in the next election.
He DOES have a shady past with the FOP.
And I for one will NOT vote for Dean Angelo Sr or Jr (no time on the job - been a board member for the past 3 years with only 5 on the job)
11/08/2013 06:51:00 AM
So are you one of the people on Kevin's, Carlos's, Tim's or the shitter's ticket?
11/08/2013 03:16:00 PM
No, actually I'm retired and haven't been to a meeting since I retired.
Anonymous said...
Just a little note for the person who believes its a political ploy. The author of the letter followed the correct protocol in submitting the letter to the union and having a meeting. It's unfortunate, that someone would go this far and post it on this blog.
11/08/2013 01:57:00 PM
And, if you did a little research, it's not hard to figure out who the author is.
Stand up guy that is a U.S. Army hero.
Just got a call told Doherty was ordered to clean out his office as this is being typed! Hope so, cleaning the rats out. Bravo mike bravo! Who us next?
Anonymous said...
Literally EVERY time I called FOP for advice during my career, I was treated like I wasn't worth their time. It didn't matter what administration it was, their condescending attitude toward the dues-paying membership was a constant.
So, I'm not surprised at this incident at all.
11/08/2013 12:05:00 PM
This is very true.
Unless you knew someone over at the hall, you were/are treated like shit.
It's almost as if they don't want to be bothered with or by you.
I felt the same for most of my career.
When was the last time the FOP 7 won any case:
(Who is the lawyer over there?)
Current Update
November 8, 2013
Unfair Labor Practice - Update
The Lodge disagrees with the Labor Board's decision. The Lodge will appeal the matter to the Illinois Appellate Court. The City's letter dated March 27, 2012, informed the Lodge that the City agreed to bargain with the Lodge because of its "deep respect for the men and women of the Police Department."
During the 6-month period starting March 27th, the parties bargained. There was no Unfair Labor Practice during that first 6-month period, as the City did meet with the Lodge and never revealed that it actually had no intention of bargaining over a July 1, 2012 start date. It was not until October 3, 2012, that the City for the first time informed the Lodge that "any changes to the provisions of the existing labor agreement are not to have an effective date of prior to July 1, 2013." The Lodge's Unfair Labor Practice charge was timely filed within 6 months of October 3, 2012. Also, it is significant that the City deliberately waited 6 days after the 6 month period expired to notify the Lodge for the first time that it had no intention of bargaining for the terms to be effective July 1, 2012.
The Lodge contends that, after October 3rd and before April 1, 2013, the City had waived its argument about the automatic renewal because it reached tentative agreements, made dozens of proposals, implemented a tentative agreement and bargained over the non-economic terms of the agreement that started July 1, 2012. The City "can't have it both ways" and "bargain" without bargaining in good faith! The Lodge was not, and it makes no sense that the Lodge would have been, bargaining 9 months before the allegedly-renewed contract began on July 1, 2013. The Lodge engaged the City in good faith bargaining and, unfortunately, the City did not do the same when it refused to make any proposals over wages and health insurance.
What do you expect? None of these guys were ever the police. They are clowns!!! This has become the Circus Police Department.
Rahm will give us everything we ask for in the contract in the coming months. He thinks either way, the (8000) cops may get off their asses and actually vote instead of bitching on a blog. Yeah right... give that prick a second term and we will find out who is laughing. Vote his ass OUT and keep money bags raunner(republican) as far away from government as possible. You heard it here first folks. The ides of March in the primary...
Government is a evil.
A necessary evil but an evil no less.
For all power corrupts.
And sooner or later it will corrupt absolutely.
Why do we hide the officer's name? He wrote to 27 board members. He should come to a meeting and tell everyone what the FOP did or did not do for him.
Donahue and Dougherty are waste products. They pushed Hurley in 35th against Pro Labor candidate. Since then youi have had teachers protesting in front of the 19th Ward. Fran Hurley has voted for every pension reform bill violating our constitutionally protected benefits. Finally, they got two things they were looking for. they got gay marriage because it passed by one vote, their Fran Hurley and Doughtery got special consideration for programs for his kid. Those two pricks should be ostracized by the membership. Always have been about themselves. They have been planning this letter issue for months to help with their campaign against Shields. They know one thing really well, Mudsling, mudsling, mudsling. Their favorite tactic is backstabbing and trying to do it with clean hands.
BD for an old guy you are pretty Davy on blogs. Nice try ""Dougherty and Shields are tied at the hip" ????? Nice try whichever member you are of an opposing ticket. No you cant smear Mike Shields for this, this was all B D's
making, wishful thinking on your part that Mike Shields had the slightest thing to do with B D's
unacceptable behavior. B D brought this one on himself. This was only the latest example of Bill kind of losing it, if you attended the October General meeting you would have seen another example of what I am talking about. He has been acting really strange as of late.
Sad to see because he has done a lot of good for the Union in the past but now he seems to have lost it. I think Bill might need to take a "rest" somewhere, but tell him not to sign himself in anywhere as that causes problems with the FOI Card."
BD only took a stand when he saw blood.
Sorry Bill, always the brides made and never the bride. now take Geiger and go climb back in your hole.
I hope we still have an FOP picnic next year?
Where does all this bad blood come from between Angelo & Dougherty. Why do Dougherty's guys say this letter was a set-up on Angelo's part? What Is dean's checker past?
Please no speeches how about some facts.
If Shields and his boys are against Dean Angelo this much he has my vote for sure!
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Quite the contrary Shields has joined up with the Angelo group, be aware that Dean Junior along with numerous other Shields supporters have voted to allow Shields to pick his own jury, then while keeping everything in the dark under the guise of executive session they voted in secrecy. It was brought to the board and again Dean Junior and company voted to find Shields not guilty. Quite amazing he tells the membership on record he is aware of the needed letter and will be sending it all on record. Then when asked during previous meetings he lied and stated he was never told nothing, this is why one of the members brought charges against Shields, basically for inattention to duty and not telling the membership the truth.
Now comes the you tube taping of the board meeting showing how the fix was being constructed. This pissed off obviously the Shields group.
Now comes the tear jerking letter of one of our veterans being picked on by our vice president again a person who is running against Shields. How convenient this tear jerking please don't pick on me because my partner is running with Dean Angelo, I want to so badly return to this job and be the Chicago Police.
I say as previous authors have stated ladies and gentleman use your heads you are trained investigators.
Dean Angelo is one of the formers who has fleeced money from the union. We all have stated at one time or another about dog asses and how they are hurting all of us. Well here is a guy who cannot work and is collecting your pension money and working as a full time professor, does anyone see anything wrong with this? He also has the ability and the knowledge to construct a tear jerking letter for one of his constituents, just like the Obama camp, never let a bad situation go to waste.
Shields should have been voted out at the meeting. However the majority felt we need less embarrassment and just let him finish his term. These tactics of using a veteran to destroy someone's character is so disgraceful, and you as a veteran allowing yourself to become part of the political arena is more disgraceful using the uniform and title of a Staff Sergeant you sir are a disgrace to all of it. Contrary to what anyone says this is a most awful ploy in politics.
Bill Dougherty first went after the retirees, via Steve Robbins, and now a veteran. As a result, Stuttering Bill, has been re-assigned to the 022nd district. Let's see if he works a beat car, or is taken care of.
RK you were told to stop drinking the Shields Kool Aid it was going to your head. These two people you have spoken of is a out right lie, you have been told that and yet you think spewing the lies will benefit you and the Shields group in some form. I know both men and they have not spoken in many years, Steve's intentions were not to eliminate the retires but to create a more balanced board. Steve chose to withdraw his motion and not further it of his own choice. Do not continue to lie about Bill being party to Steve introducing the retiree motion and making him an enemy to the retirees. Bill has done nothing but help so many disabled officers and officers with medical issues, yet you choose to want to bring this discredit to aid your campaign.
Signed Retiree
IF Bill Dougherty is being put back in a car remember that Mark Donahue put one of his own guys out of the office for a lot less than Bill Dougherty did. Capparelli got put out of office for being lazy or that's the story they sold the membership at the time. Then Bill brought in his hockey buddy Jim Bailey. Bella, Aguilar, Dougherty and Donahue have a serious ethics problem that the membership needs to investigate. Aguilar just put in his papers to retire!
So before Bill Dougherty starts that this letter was a set up by Dean Angelo Sr. and he wants the membership to check out Angelo’s checkered past find out what the real reason Mark Donahue put Capparelli out of the office and what is the ethics problem that Donahue, Bella, Aguilar and Dougherty have.
Maybe the Angelo ticket will look a lot better then. And you will see how vindictive Dougherty is and the letter from the vet is genuine. Bill has to feel like chump now taking all of his advise from the puppet master Mark Donahue. Steve Robbinds got betrayed too by Mark and was left out to dry. The witch hunt you guys went on when you guys took office is now coming right back at you.
Anonymous said...
I hope we still have an FOP picnic next year?
11/08/2013 10:35:00 PM
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Without it DiMaria and Sid Davis will have nothing to do next year.
Votes are not allowed in executive session. All votes are on record. Nice try Bill.
Anonymous said...
I hope we still have an FOP picnic next year?
11/08/2013 10:35:00 PM
I want the fishing tournament. FD works all year on that.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man how to fish and he will sit in his boat all day long and drink beer.
Shields and Donahue asks where's billy
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oVbGUfMy328
I still have Shield's campaign literature where he promised complete transparency. That didn't happen. He said nothing about installing his friends who lost the election in the FOP office as if they won. Why have the election then? He just put in there who he wanted and fuck the rest of us.
Forever crying,
Sid Davis
Dean Angelo Sr. doesn't give a shit about coppers or the FOP. He is power hungry, and only cares about his own advancement. He was a big part of the evil Bill Nolan ticket that sold us out on health care. Please ask old timers about Dean Sr. before you vote for him. You need to pick a younger person from the patrol division. The detectives have always controlled the FOP. Time for a big change.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Donahue and Dougherty are waste products. They pushed Hurley in 35th against Pro Labor candidate. Since then youi have had teachers protesting in front of the 19th Ward. Fran Hurley has voted for every pension reform bill violating our constitutionally protected benefits. Finally, they got two things they were looking for. they got gay marriage because it passed by one vote, their Fran Hurley and Doughtery got special consideration for programs for his kid. Those two pricks should be ostracized by the membership. Always have been about themselves. They have been planning this letter issue for months to help with their campaign against Shields. They know one thing really well, Mudsling, mudsling, mudsling. Their favorite tactic is backstabbing and trying to do it with clean hands.
11/08/2013 10:28:00 PM
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Mark is getting paid 75K on top of his Dic's pension. And he's in bead with her? Mrk shame on you. But let's leave Bill's kids out of this. He's a good dad even if he took bad advise from Mark.
Better Shields, with all of his faults, than Dean Angelo Sr. Trust me on this one. Keep the Fop away from detectives, and old guys.
The whole FOP is fucked shields is a fuckn moron and everyone in there doesn't know their ass from their elbow. Fuckin idiots now get me my retro check you fucked up idiot.
Something stinks here. Dougherty is assigned to 00and detailed to 008 prior to working inside at FOP. How does he get go to 022? are there openings in 022? Cash in a chip Billy Boy?
I have a solution to a lot of these FOP problems. How about no inflated salaries for elected members? Want to "save FOP waste" for real? If elected, you keep your current salary. You do the job you were elected to do. Now we don't have six figure PO's out there acting like Jimmy Fucking Hoffa union guys, but PO's who actually want to work for the blue shirts they're supposed to represent.
None of you pussies have the balls to do that because you are all politicians who want a spot with a paycheck and access to that machine.
FOP actually back a Police Officer? Haaa.
You would have better luck calling a piss bum for advice.
Listen Up!
The only way the FOP will ever be able to redeem
themselves is by taking a huge reduction in salary and
perks. The salary that these elected board of directors
receive is ridiculous! If a board member truly has a desire to serve he or she should receive the same time and grade pay as they do in the districts and areas. Perhaps more officers would attend general meetings knowing there is no personal gain only personal gratification in helping fellow officers.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Bill Dougherty first went after the retirees, via Steve Robbins, and now a veteran. As a result, Stuttering Bill, has been re-assigned to the 022nd district. Let's see if he works a beat car, or is taken care of.
RK you were told to stop drinking the Shields Kool Aid it was going to your head. These two people you have spoken of is a out right lie, you have been told that and yet you think spewing the lies will benefit you and the Shields group in some form. I know both men and they have not spoken in many years, Steve's intentions were not to eliminate the retires but to create a more balanced board. Steve chose to withdraw his motion and not further it of his own choice. Do not continue to lie about Bill being party to Steve introducing the retiree motion and making him an enemy to the retirees. Bill has done nothing but help so many disabled officers and officers with medical issues, yet you choose to want to bring this discredit to aid your campaign.
Signed Retiree
11/08/2013 11:19:00 PM
Steve Robbins DID NOT WITHDRAW HIS MOTION after numerous people asked him to. I was at that meeting. If he did it days weeks later why was it kept secret from the members.
I have a solution to a lot of these FOP problems. How about no inflated salaries for elected members? Want to "save FOP waste" for real? If elected, you keep your current salary. You do the job you were elected to do. Now we don't have six figure PO's out there acting like Jimmy Fucking Hoffa union guys, but PO's who actually want to work for the blue shirts they're supposed to represent.
None of you pussies have the balls to do that because you are all politicians who want a spot with a paycheck and access to that machine.
And Im sure YOU would be the stand up guy who when elected would stay at your salary and give up all the perks... Umm, no. You would sit in your comfortable office chair and say to yourself, "fuckin right!" I love all the righteous people on this job who say they would do this and that but have never been in the position and never will be... BUT, if you were put in that position and were now making a good 6 figure income with perks and some moron was screaming for you to give it up would you just say, "hes right, I will because I dont even want it anyway". No, you would tell him to shut the f*ck up because your not loosin your spot and your money. Ok hard guy, just give up the perks. Stfu. Ive never been elected, never run for FOP office etc but im also realistic as many of you are not. If it was you in that spot you would do anything to keep it and so would I. I cant stand half of the crybaby (such as your self) coppers on this job. Always think they are owed something, better than everyone, smarter than everyone, above all laws, play police off duty, tell everyone they are the police off duty, try to impress girls off duty with cop stories.. please, nothing but jerk offs. If I got that spot I would milk that mfer for all it could give me until the milk was gone... dont hate the player, hate the game bro!
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Donahue and Dougherty are waste products. They pushed Hurley in 35th against Pro Labor candidate. Since then youi have had teachers protesting in front of the 19th Ward. Fran Hurley has voted for every pension reform bill violating our constitutionally protected benefits. Finally, they got two things they were looking for. they got gay marriage because it passed by one vote, their Fran Hurley and Doughtery got special consideration for programs for his kid. Those two pricks should be ostracized by the membership. Always have been about themselves. They have been planning this letter issue for months to help with their campaign against Shields. They know one thing really well, Mudsling, mudsling, mudsling. Their favorite tactic is backstabbing and trying to do it with clean hands.
Another Rick(I can't believe I lost two dogs)King lie! Shields screwed himself when he lied about the letter end of story. If Dougherty"s kid was helped by Hurley then name the program.
Silence!
Liar Rick!!!
OT: But why in the year 2013 does FOP still send out newsletters in print form? What a waste of $$$. I get the email and read the FOP newsletter online the same day it comes out. More money in the crapper on printing and postage. When I brought it up to Rich Aguilar he said there's not that many people on the emailing list. I was like "Rich people can access the FOP from department computers. Save the money".
And Im sure YOU would be the stand up guy who when elected would stay at your salary and give up all the perks... Umm, no. You would sit in your comfortable office chair and say to yourself, "fuckin right!" I love all the righteous people on this job who say they would do this and that but have never been in the position and never will be... BUT, if you were put in that position and were now making a good 6 figure income with perks and some moron was screaming for you to give it up would you just say, "hes right, I will because I dont even want it anyway". No, you would tell him to shut the f*ck up because your not loosin your spot and your money. Ok hard guy, just give up the perks. Stfu. Ive never been elected, never run for FOP office etc but im also realistic as many of you are not. If it was you in that spot you would do anything to keep it and so would I. I cant stand half of the crybaby (such as your self) coppers on this job. Always think they are owed something, better than everyone, smarter than everyone, above all laws, play police off duty, tell everyone they are the police off duty, try to impress girls off duty with cop stories.. please, nothing but jerk offs. If I got that spot I would milk that mfer for all it could give me until the milk was gone... dont hate the player, hate the game bro!
11/09/2013 02:20:00 PM
Hey, hard guy. Take a look at some of the suburban departments. They don't have six figure union guys, their union guys still work. The difference is that they actually give a fuck about representing cops, not inflating their own income and setting themselves up for a clout job. That's what's needed here. But asswipes like you are what we get with that attitude of milking it and keeping it. If you want change, we should do away with that bullshit.
To the Rick Bashers: Steve Robbins after having his campaign funded by Donahue, Dougherty and the rest of the FOP board, voted to give over 20 million dollars of our money to Mayor Daleys cousin, Robert Van Eecko AKA DV Urban Realty. Those slobs-Donahue, Dougherty and Robbins have been trying to scre Shields from Day One. Their only loyalty is to themselves. I will never forget their support for Fran Hurley whoi has voted time and against the promised and earned pension benefits of public employees throughout the whole state. Only a fool would wonder how Dougherty would end up in 22. We have been Donahue's fools for too long. It is about time Shields figure these whores out.
Shields can't figure anything out. He's not a cop, he's a politician!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: But why in the year 2013 does FOP still send out newsletters in print form? What a waste of $$$. I get the email and read the FOP newsletter online the same day it comes out. More money in the crapper on printing and postage. When I brought it up to Rich Aguilar he said there's not that many people on the emailing list. I was like "Rich people can access the FOP from department computers. Save the money".
11/10/2013 08:31:00 AM
Once again, many of us CAN'T access it from Dept computers. We are retired, injured, detailed.
Some of us LIKE to get hard copies. Some of us don't. The union should offer the option.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the Rick Bashers: Steve Robbins after having his campaign funded by Donahue, Dougherty and the rest of the FOP board, voted to give over 20 million dollars of our money to Mayor Daleys cousin, Robert Van Eecko AKA DV Urban Realty. Those slobs-Donahue, Dougherty and Robbins have been trying to scre Shields from Day One. Their only loyalty is to themselves. I will never forget their support for Fran Hurley whoi has voted time and against the promised and earned pension benefits of public employees throughout the whole state. Only a fool would wonder how Dougherty would end up in 22. We have been Donahue's fools for too long. It is about time Shields figure these whores out.
11/10/2013 04:11:00 PM
I was at an FOP General Meeting where Robbins got up in front of the membership and told everyone he voted to give the money to DV Partners because he thought it was a good investment. Still with a straight face he said he and the others on that pension board didn't know that Vanecko was Daley's nephew.
Our pension fund would have done much better over these past 25 years if it had simply put 100% of the pension funds in Treasury certificates and left it alone.
To those members who came on the job after we voted to elect a bargaining unit a little history lesson is in order. When the vote was held as to who was going represent us FOP won. Actually because of multiple groups were running teamsters, combined counties, paper hangers, etc. no representation was leading about a month to go to the election. But the city sent the hard core political deputies out to roll cal’s and threatened that if we picked a union how they were going to screw us if we did. FOP won.
Fop was the social group of the Detective Division, the bosses, and the house mouse’s at 11th and State. The bosses got pissed when they got thrown out of fop. John Dineen was the President at the time. He was a Dic. The guy who was in charge of legal defense was the heir successor but died from a heart attack if I remember right. So everyone on that ticket just slide up one spot. Bill Nolan was elected. He also was a Detective. The contract process was now a regular thing but Nolan’s group agreed to pay a small amount of each pay check for health care. That was a critical mistake. Nolan brought Dean Angelo in to work as a field rep. Dean was full duty at the time. When it became time to go back to the field Dean went on disability. The election between the Nolan team and Mark Donahue’s was vicious to say the least. Mark’s team won the election. Mark was a detective also.
Mark’s the FOP president and he puts up Steve Robbins for pension board. By putting the fop endorsement in the news letter Steve does not have to pay any money for a mailing. Mark puts John Capparelli out of the office and just says it’s his choice. They let it out he was put out of the office because he was lazy, which he was, but so are most of that group. But that’s their cover story. Mike Shields gets wind of the Luberman stunt. Steve is the rep buy no notice goes out to the membership what’s going on - go along to get along? Shields beats Robbins for Pension Board Rep. This becomes a problem for Mark Donahue and his plan for The Thousand Year Reich. Shields does not go a long to get a long and the city treasurer threatens to sue Shields when he calls her out on her ethics. Mark does his 9 years and everyone on his ticket just moves up a slot for the new citywide team. Shields upsets that master plan and wins the fop presidency. But the membership splits it’s vote and there is a blend of old and new in the office. That could have been a good thing.
That was the problem from day one the guys with the knowledge where just biding their time to take over again. The guys with the - don’t’ go along to get along attitude didn’t have the knowledge. Steve Robbins proposes a by-law change to kick all the retirees out of the union because the Nolan team carried most of the retired vote while Markie Mark's team won the active duty vote.
As of today who to vote for? Too early to tell how many of the minor tickets actually form. But it won’t be the guy on disability who’s been in the shadows for over 11 years, or the guy who was using his office on company time to advance his political chances, or a Detective who has that I’m smatter than you officer attitude. Don’t marry yourself to any of these guys yet. You might want to wait and see how this shakes out around the first of the year.
Let's not let the facts get in the way of the truth. Capperalli was not requested by the president to return to be one the 6 Field Reps that the board approved in the presidents final 3 year term. Just like Capperalli and Sid Davis were not asked to be Field reps by the current president. Only difference being Capperalli and Davis were elected by the members to the office of treasurer and recording secretary respectively and McCarthy and DelRaveria lost the election but were brought in as field reps anyway, afterall they ran with Mike but lost the election, the least he could do for them. So instead of paying 6 field reps at captains pay Shields expanded that number to 9 because I forgot Donahue who he hired so he would not have to be bothered with going to Springfield, a duty assumed by all the previous FOP presidents. That is how your dues money is being spent. No wonder all he does is start shit he has nothing but time on his hands. Capperelli and Davis still perform the jobs of treasurer and recording secretary while McCarthy and DelRaveria sit in the offices they use to occupy. He delegates his duties to McCarthy, DelRaveria and Donahue there is nothing left for him to do but go get a steam followed up by a steak dinner.
While he's waiting to do his next interview with the press. Perception is everything, never let the facts get in the way of a good media opportunity.
The City's letter dated March 27, 2012, informed the Lodge that the City agreed to bargain with the Lodge because of its "deep respect for the men and women of the Police Department." Yes they agreed to bargain just not including the first year of the contract because Mikey did not send the letter that was due no later than March 1, 2012. In other words no retro for 1st year of the contract. If you were so convinced that they were wrong then why did you send them a second letter before the March 1, 2013 deadline informing them you wished to negotiate a successor agreement? If your position was so solid then why file an unfair labor practice with the IL Labor board that you also sent in past the 6 month deadline. You then appeal their dismissal of the unfair labor practice and lose. Now you vow that it will be appealed to the Illinois State court. All this money spent on lawyers/appeals to cover-up your initial fuckup (missing the March 1st Deadline) and a late filing of an unfair labor practice (that you had 6 months to file). Who are you closer to Rahm, Quinn or Madigan. My guess is Rahm because you did him a solid saving him about 60 million by not sending the letter in on time.Just wondering what the fuck you have been doing in that office. You have 3 more bodies (McCarthy, Del Raveria and Donahue) to perform the same duties of your predecessor (Donahue) and for the first 18 months a personal assistant to run your errands. Lots of steam baths, steak dinners and browsing the internet trying to figure out how to spend that Deputy Chiefs pay are a few things that come to mind. The work load might be picking up now since you got rid of the one guy who knew our medical inside and out. Also I'm sure the next appointees you ask the Board to confirm will be you election gurus and spin masters who will be working full time on our dime trying to confuse fact with your fiction. I think your next FOP paid for vehicle should be a 2014 ESCALADE ESV MSRP $70,000 - $86,000 you earned it. On second thought I think Rahm could pop for this purchase, you saved him about the same as the price tag of the Maggie Daley park, its the least he could do.
Steve Robbins DID NOT WITHDRAW HIS MOTION after numerous people asked him to. I was at that meeting. If he did it days weeks later why was it kept secret from the members\\\\\\
This is how much you know.
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Steve Robbins DID NOT WITHDRAW HIS MOTION after numerous people asked him to. I was at that meeting. If he did it days weeks later why was it kept secret from the members\\\\\\
This is how much you know.
11/11/2013 07:32:00 PM
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Steve Robbins NEVER withdraw his motion at a general meeting since it was brought up. I have not missed a general meeting since that one. Since I have never been in a elected office I have never been invited to a board meeting. Question for board members was this withdrawn during a board meeting or just a smaller secret society meeting of Mark Donahue's Thousand Year Reich?
Or did the Recording Secretary sneak this phantom motion to withdraw into the minutes without any one else knowing about it? Has Steve even been to a general meeting since the? I've been looking for him and never saw him there again. If he's in the book as being at a meeting then Jim M (the taper) is signing him in on the QT.
Let's not let the facts get in the way of the truth. Capperalli was not requested by the president to return to be one the 6 Field Reps that the board approved in the presidents final 3 year term. Just like Capperalli and Sid Davis were not asked to be Field reps by the current president. Only difference being Capperalli and Davis were elected by the members to the office of treasurer and recording secretary respectively and McCarthy and DelRaveria lost the election but were brought in as field reps anyway, afterall they ran with Mike but lost the election, the least he could do for them. So instead of paying 6 field reps at captains pay Shields expanded that number to 9 because I forgot Donahue who he hired so he would not have to be bothered with going to Springfield, a duty assumed by all the previous FOP presidents. That is how your dues money is being spent. No wonder all he does is start shit he has nothing but time on his hands. Capperelli and Davis still perform the jobs of treasurer and recording secretary while McCarthy and DelRaveria sit in the offices they use to occupy. He delegates his duties to McCarthy, DelRaveria and Donahue there is nothing left for him to do but go get a steam followed up by a steak dinner.
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Lets not let the facts get in the way of the truth? Mark makes less than half of what a field Rep makes. Pat Camden as the press guy only gets paid by the hour. if he does not get called out he makes nothing. Chris Kato and Captain Farrell also are paid only by the hour. Davis and Capparelli on get a small monthly stipend as will Billy for holding elected office. This was done first with Capparelli by Mark. Now the process needs to be changed to save Bill? Bill brought this on himself. And this is not a new thing as Dean Angelo was brought in from the detective division to be a field rep w/o ever being elected.
Steve Robbins NEVER withdraw his motion at a general meeting since it was brought up. I have not missed a general meeting since that one. Since I have never been in a elected office I have never been invited to a board meeting. Question for board members was this withdrawn during a board meeting or just a smaller secret society meeting of Mark Donahue's Thousand Year Reich?
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Again how much you know Steve had the right to continue his motion, and made the decision to leave it go away. You do not need any special invitations to attend board meetings they have been open to the membership since Mark got elected at President of Lodge 7. Feel free to attend any board meeting the first Tuesday of every month, time certain when you can address the board is generally 12 or 1 pm. Quit your conspiracy theories of how so much is being done behind closed doors. No quite sure how King Shields will be running things at the board.
Or did the Recording Secretary sneak this phantom motion to withdraw into the minutes without any one else knowing about it? Has Steve even been to a general meeting since the? I've been looking for him and never saw him there again. If he's in the book as being at a meeting then Jim M (the taper) is signing him in on the QT.
Steve is planning on running for President and having Shields as his 1st Vice President, both a well versed on the Pension board policies etc. and due to seniority Steve will be President and Shields next in line. Yes Steve has been at all the meetings and is qualified to run. So get ready for a great race.
Thank you for serving.
Again how much you know Steve had the right to continue his motion, You do not need any special invitations to attend board meetings they have been open to the membership since Mark got elected at President of Lodge 7. Feel free to attend any board meeting the first Tuesday of every month, time certain when you can address the board is generally 12 or 1 pm. Quit your conspiracy theories of how so much is being done behind closed doors. No quite sure how King Shields will be running things at the board.
11/12/2013 10:14:00 AM
""and made the decision to leave it go away.""
Leave it go away?
your a moron. It went to the floor and was voted on. every person there voted NO. It only had two yes votes Steve's and some dickwad. Steve was asked to:
1. Withdraw his motion, which he refused and
2. to change his vote to make it unanimous, which he refused
3. He was also asked to stand up so the 400 extra people who showed up could see who he was and he refused.
I was standing along the west wall of doors 10 feet behind stevie and when the meeting ended he snuck out the west doors, thru the court yard which was open due to the overflow crowd and down the alley like a plague rat. And he has not had the guts to come back to a meeting again since then.
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