"Voluntary" Changes for Squad Policing
A letter from downtown telling everyone in 003, 012 and 024 that their day off groups choices are about to go from 6 down to 3:
The Department is rolling out this change in an effort to do more with less. But springing it on everyone this coming Sunday, without what we assumed was the required seven days notice before Change Day is a horseshit move, especially for those with 12th and 13th period furloughs and family plans for the holidays that were planned far in advance. If this stands, anyone who had Christmas off in Day Off Group (D.O.G.) 66 is out of luck unless they get to 65.
Channel 5 had a story on this, but the video doesn't seem to be up yet (it's up now). McCarthy seemed happy to be screwing with the rank and file and called the FOP's position obstructionist.
Everyone saw what happened when McCarthy and Rahm ignored the plain language of the Contract regarding the sixth day working in a seven day week. Past practice would seem to dictate seven days notice for switching day off groups or else the City has to pay overtime following the violation. Rahm is trying to violate the Contract purposefully, thereby establishing precedent to violate it whenever he wants. Affected Officers in the Districts need to follow this very closely and hammer the FOP with calls.
The FOP has already said that when filling out the form for a Day Off Group Change, cross out the word "voluntarily," as this is obviously being done under duress.
Channel 5 had a story on this, but the video doesn't seem to be up yet (it's up now). McCarthy seemed happy to be screwing with the rank and file and called the FOP's position obstructionist.
Everyone saw what happened when McCarthy and Rahm ignored the plain language of the Contract regarding the sixth day working in a seven day week. Past practice would seem to dictate seven days notice for switching day off groups or else the City has to pay overtime following the violation. Rahm is trying to violate the Contract purposefully, thereby establishing precedent to violate it whenever he wants. Affected Officers in the Districts need to follow this very closely and hammer the FOP with calls.
The FOP has already said that when filling out the form for a Day Off Group Change, cross out the word "voluntarily," as this is obviously being done under duress.
Labels: FOP, info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
178 Comments:
God is this McCarthy an ignorant asshole!
Mccarthy is so out of touch with patrol that he said, "this way PO's can work for the same SGt everyday and know what he wants and not what the other SGT wants. Funny thing is with all I do is answer jobs and the SGt just approves case reports for me. I'm not in a specialized unit where we do specialized things. We answer jobs! I know the new thing in patrol is missions and boxes where cars r designated to not get jobs but get contact cards. But come on already. Start beefing up the districts with all those PPO's hired already.
The mayor spent a lot of time in DC learning to violate just about every law, regulation, and custom known to man. In DC they can violate anything and make you smile and be happy about it.
Keep slapping those fins for the fish. Instead of being clubbed like baby seals, refuse the fish they dangle over our heads. Do nothing!!! Rhambo and McJag want to squeeze every last ounce of energy out of us.
Well here's the one moment to send a message. If you generate one piece of activity that is beyond what is required by the law or GOs you are a fool. Let's see how well you guys stick together.
(1) Why aren't they changing Sgts day off groups?
(2) Why change day off groups now---is it to help officers make watch and furlo selection decisions for next year?---not bloody likely
Oh my aching stomach,,, wink wink
I don't think I can come in today sarge, I don't feel good. Does this line sound ok when hitting the medical
Wow. We are being led by a bunch of fools.
Rahm doesn't care about us.
Mccarthy doesn't care about us.
And Little Mikey Shields doesn't care. He has done absolutely nothing for us.
I got 2 more years and i'm done.
Sorry for all you young cops. It's gonna be a rough ride.
It's only a matter of time before we have to start taking unpaid furlough days. like other city workers have to do.
Keep working vri, ot, as long as you can. Max out deferred comp.
The death spiral continues. Is there a rock bottom that even exists?! I have 2 years till I'm vested, need to figure something out fast. Not sure I wanna stick around to even see what rock bottom looks like!?
*The Police are the problem in Chicago. Once we "fix" them, everything else will fall in place.
This squad policing will work great while it's -10 degrees or so, raining and snowing but when summer rolls around, ---look out..
Sorry didn't see the post below. ( doesn't work..)
The patrolmen are watching the gangbangers. The Sgts. are watching the patrolmen. The Lt. is watching the Sgts. The X/O is watching the Lt. I'm watching the X/O and the POD in the sky is watching us all.
Prediction:
There'll STILL be no shortage of spineless motherfuckers gleefully conforming to this force-fed bullshit. Proactivity in the form of parkers, movers, ANOVs and vehicle impoundments won't skip a beat.
What also won't be effected is the number of blowhards here on SCC crying to anyone who'll listen about how they're again getting fucked by the department... while they just lay back and take it dry.
I can hear it now: "but I GOTTA change my DOG and give them something or I can't work VRI".
Wake. The. Fuck. Up. People.
So you put the office staff through all the work to reallign the district, then in two weeks everyone Bids for wtchws and you start all over again-Good Idea
Jeepers Mr Wilson thats what I call a big CROCK OF SHIT sorry Jersey boy it aint gonna work.
Any imbecile who generates a single piece of activity for this Dept is a softer than puppy shit
Just watched a documentary on the Viet Nam War (I'm a V.N. Era vet and recently retired from the J.O.B.) What struck me profoundly was the use of the body count as a fictitious metric for success (ala' constat) and the fact that Gen. Westmoreland had a new plan every month on how to eradicate the enemy. The net effect on the troops was to re-enforce the opinion that the leadership did not know what it was doing!(sound familiar?) And herein lies the rub. McCarthy has thrown so much shit at the wall that now the only tangible effect is the smell. There is no sense of purpose in the Dept.. The troops are demoralized and only look to VRI as a compensation for the organization's leadership failure. I truly believe that 5 minutes after McCarthy gets launched he'll decry the fact that he wasn't allowed the manpower he needed to accomplish the job. It's in this Kabuki-like drama that the men and women of the department put their physical and legal health on the line. BE VERY CAREFUL! Bless you my brothers and sisters.
All three watches will be riding 99 shortly.
Will I still be able to get event numbers?
This makes no sense. Why change the dog's and mandate them before program even starts. The idiocy continues even with the Commannequin running the show.
I don't care what my dog is as long as I am on the A-Team w B.A and Hannibal
Im sure the FLOP will be on this as soon as possible they've got to keep their phoney baloney jobs.
Another in a long string of union busting moves by Rahm.
He operates very much like a dictator. He couldn't care less about our contract.... as we've seen by now what Rahm wants Rahm gets even if he has to violate contracts, break the law etc. to accomplish it.
019 district dog says
keep bringing in those numbers!
Wolf.....wolf
At this point it seems the department is trying to tire us into bidding out or retiring until they've reached the desired staffing level.
Supt states this is for consistent leadership and supervision
Exactly how does that square with HIS decision to eliminate watch commanders?
This memo should jeopardize the city's win in the grievance allowing it to deny time due
The city successfully argued that an officer denied time due could simply do a tour of duty exchange in that case. Now that 4 out of 7 day off groups (the majority) have been eliminated that argument is gone. Officers will have no one to do a trade with for most workdays.
FOP should seek to reopen that grievance if this initiative is implemented.
The sad thing is everyone of these people that are getting the shaft on this are gonna sign up for VRI, which in turn, caused them to get fucked over. Don't cry us a river. We tried to warm you.
How is this even possible. The FOP trial panel hand picked by Shields found him not guilty of not sending the letter. Shitcago politics at its best. Shields. Doherty. Underwood. Jaglowski. They all think we are stupid.
Yes, that is what happened. Shields voted for himself,and so did these board members.
Dan Gorman
Dean Angelo
Bill Burns
Dan Shields
Denis Doherty
Pat Duckhorn
Fernando Flores
Al Jaglowski
Rick King
John Lipka
Ron Shogren
Dan Stover
Dan Trevino
Mike Underwood
What a joke! And you guys call yourselves the police.
How does anyone on that board vote not guilty on Mikey? He keeps trying to blame everyone else but himself. The minutes of the Feb 21, 2013 General meeting tell the truth.
My bathhouse buddy Mikey is doing the right thing with this one.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
It's about reducing manpower, period.
They have to do it immediately so it doesn't mess with furlough selections for next year...Reverting back would mess with the team thing....
Plus we don't know what day off groups are going to be early or late so your picking a day off group bllindly
This is the wrong way to go . Hire more officers if you don't have manpower.
"" Chicago Dictatorship Surprised "". This is the wrong way to go working only for one sergeant it's not intelligent .some of These sergeants are very moody disrespectful and think they are dictators themselves and you have those that don't even know where they asses are. Officers stand up be heard these motherfuckers cannot do as the want .
Fuck this guy! Im filing grievances for everything now! Da Pelon
Working in teams to address specific problems in a particular sector. Gosh, that sounds like CAPS to me.
So what happens when the "team" is working on a problem and the dispatcher is giving out jobs?
What happens when the local aldercreature walks into the commanders office to scream that HIS phone is ringing off the hook with multiple complaints of no police service because it now takes even LONGER to respond to a call?
Why hammer FOP with calls? They already filed an unfair labor practice and a grievance. They advised officers how to complete the forms. What more can they do?
Keep working hard, the mayor and Supt. surely appreciate your hard work. Keep up the contact cards, impounds, movers, parkers, anov's, etc... Surely if we do more with less then the Supt and mayor will appreciate us more.
Go out there and get that activity you shmucks!
Called FOP yesterday. Was told that there was an agreement with O'Neill at MLAS for a pilot in 012 to begin in 2014. O'Neill wanted to add 003 and 024 at the last minute without any notification or discussion. FOP wouldn't agree so O'Neill has an order issued that fucks everybody including those in 012.
Just another example of what this department thinks of its workers. The superintendent needs to intervene and stop this. Doubt that he will, but this could be his opportunity to show he supports the troops by making things right.
I read the Sgt. exam study guide and it is full of errors. Section A question 3 correct answer(D) "You ask Officer Redmond....". The only problem is that there is NO such officer named in the scenario......look at Section C Scenario C1- ANOV --"12640 S. Holiday Court" is listed as respondents address instead of violation location - automatic win for Mr Respondent- but not noted as an error in answer key.
In other words, the subject matter experts and the company itself has no clue. In part one of the exam, one of the questions stated a Sgt. hears over the radio of a garage burglary. He goes on scene and only a report is required so he gives out a code. What is the correct code? It should be 19S. But in the test, the options were A, 1- 19 S B. 1-19-S etc.. All of our disposition codes begin with a number and letter, NOT a number followed by a dash then two numbers and then an alpha code!
This just tells you how smart all of those subject matter experts were.
Prediction:
There'll STILL be no shortage of spineless motherfuckers gleefully conforming to this force-fed bullshit. Proactivity in the form of parkers, movers, ANOVs and vehicle impoundments won't skip a beat.
What also won't be effected is the number of blowhards here on SCC crying to anyone who'll listen about how they're again getting fucked by the department... while they just lay back and take it dry.
I can hear it now: "but I GOTTA change my DOG and give them something or I can't work VRI".
Wake. The. Fuck. Up. People.
11/06/2013 01:03:00 AM
+1
I remember when I was constantly being fucked with by some bullies in grade school. I cried to my old man. He shoved me aside and said "son, they keep fucking with you because you let them. When will you learn to push back son?". That is when I got it and whenever someone fucked with me, I fucked with them back.
STFU and generate more revenue coppers.
HAHAHAHAHAHA !
They tried this in the early 70's. Each district had 5 sectors. So 7 DOG. Each Sgt. had his own team, it was a nice concept. But faded away as unworkable. Wonder where they found the very old paperwork?
Well here's the one moment to send a message. If you generate one piece of activity that is beyond what is required by the law or GOs you are a fool. Let's see how well you guys stick together.
Haa LMFAO. Coppers will stab each other in the back just to talk to the Tac Lt.. Send a real message. NO VRI for 1 MONTH!!!!
Any imbecile who generates a single piece of activity for this Dept is a softer than puppy shit
Trust me. They will line up for a chance to get a smile from their Commander. We don't stick together.
What the hell is going on with this department? Its like throwing shit through a fan and seeing what sticks. The ones coming up with this crap have to be sitting at a bar half crocked concocting this shit.
With the exception of FORCING POs and Sgts to change their DOG, this really will be a neutral issue for the POs. The people who will take it in the butt will be the Sgts who will now be held accountable for the activity of a "team" of lazy coppers.
Aside from the other issues that have been identified, we will be beginning WATCH and ANNUAL FURLO Selections. Furlo is not a big issue, but watch selection you could have people changing watches for one reason or another.... Why not wait until that process is completed and see how your manpower is going to shift.
Typical arrogant NYC asshole. Screwing with everyone's holidays then getting all offended that they don't like it. Prick.
btw... Nice video channel 5. I especially liked the Windows XP Screen Saver on McJersey's computer monitor. Very classy (snicker) McJerkoff.
As long as there are Hair Gels willing to arrest their grandmothers to remain in CD; the Insanity will continue. Not until TAC lays down will anything change.
What's gonna happen when you have those d.o.g.'s where a large number of people have a furlough and are off? Happens after the first of the year on midnights a lot. Don't do a thing, people in those districts. Please send a message.
Miss me yet? Jody Weiis
Grow a set and call your coworkers out.
Changing D.O.G. you never cry until it happens to you...
Over the years I've heard so many stories from the old timers about how back in the day when something needed to be done, they would put some "friendly pressure" on the young guys to accomplish the goal. This department needs that kind of guidance again. The guys in patrol that get it, need to step up and show the younger ones the way. If you pay union dues, you are a member of the union. Unions are supposed to stick together to accomplish goals that will benefit its members. Why in the hell are we letting the powers that be walk all over us? If we don't like something, we need to change it. It takes more than a couple of guys to do that. I know that the old timers will say that the "hairgels" don't get it and will continue to get their bullshit contact cards etc. Sometimes a little bit of gentle persuasion from the right people can make all the difference. Being a union member isn't about paying your dues and then bitching. It's about STICKING TOGETHER. We can't complain that Rahm is trying to destroy us and then do nothing to fight it.
Since you can't seem to get a day time due now, just imagine when you're in a "squad".... sorry, guys, we can't give you time because we have 2 people on furlo and one on the medical... but, if you were on the "other" squad, you could since they are "full strength" and we can't move people around....
This won't work. Especially in patrol. It would probably have a better outcome in a unit as we see teams all the time.
Yep, probably time to file a grievance to try to get something back since some of us will be losing our DOH.....
Invoke the Voluntary Individual Job Action clause as required under The DILLIGAF Act of 1983.
If they throw you lemons, throw them back.
Anonymous said...
Wow. We are being led by a bunch of fools.
Rahm doesn't care about us.
11/06/2013 12:27:00 AM
But how many cops got out and voted? You deserve the leadership you elect. Yesterday's elections showed how stupid people in America really are. Across the country, Dems and Rinos took center stage. While here in Illinois, the most important issue Springfield tackles is Gay Marriage. Like the Monty Python poster says: Wake the fuck up people!
012 is now a superdistrict after the merge of 013 and 012 and being a somewhat slow district, Rahm would love to move some manpower away
024 has been rumored to be merging with 020 for at least two years now
003 might just be the token south side district thrown in the mix, or maybe this is a precursor to chopping it up between 002, 004, 006 and 007
maybe I'm way off base here but to me it looks like a way to eventually divert manpower away from taxpayers
I don't know if it's worth it anymore. I know damn sure I'd B gone from this cluster fuck of a place if I had 6 years or less on the job. If U'r not one of the anointed on this job then U'r in for YEARS of hurt, pain, missing what U once called a family cuz U'r in the ghetto on midnights driving from 016 to 003, 005, or something crazy for money U won't see till about 10 years. Who knows what this place will look like in 3 or 5 years?
This is a sad state of affairs. I have watched this department and 024th district's morale go down the tubes little by little over the years. It used to be fun place to come to work and do this job. What a joke! Change D.O.G.'s, change partners, mess with my family life, work for a sergeant you have no respect for and deal with it all by using broken computers, busted up vehicles that are unsafe and being treated like shit. That's the beauty of it all. Look at the equipment in 024th district station processing rooms. computers busted up, printers down, vehicles with no pdt's, some sirens broken, loud speaker inoperable. Hey but go out and get contact cards for us. Forget the movers, curfews, truants and physical heads. Go you contact card generating machines get us some contact cards on your beat. WTF!
Anonymous said...
Supt states this is for consistent leadership and supervision
Exactly how does that square with HIS decision to eliminate watch commanders?
11/06/2013 04:37:00 AM
Shit most supervisors are afraid of the streets. They lead from the station. Which is fine by me. Less dama.
they do what they want...and dare you to grieve it..... you can be a rabble rouser or a sheep.
All three watches will be riding 99 shortly.
11/06/2013 02:34:00 AM
Riding?
If you're. RAHM why not do this? Even if he loses this in arbitration what the big deal the city pays no fine. All that happens is there told not to do it. Damage is done
125 Sgts and 43 Lts on Friday list will be put out after 5
I liked this statement so much that I had to borrow it from a friend and post it on here. I hope this person doesn't get mad but it's spot on and I had to share. "Why aren't we as a collective, marching and picketing at city hall re: our NO CONTRACT and our endangered earned pension future bringing much needed attention to the corruption that's going on? Cancel the fishing tourney, the picnic, the golf outings and all the other stuff. Lets spend that money on some rally's, billboards, airtime, etc..."
Wow! I just read that thing and it is fucking stupid. I cant believe someone would sign their name to that. This used to be a police department now it is just a mickeymouse show.
..."(I'm a V.N. Era vet and recently retired from the J.O.B.)"...
THANK YOU for your service and
Welcome Home, brother.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Quit buying useless crap that depreciates in value and does nothing for your future. Impose hardships on yourself if necessary and MAX out your deferred comp. Then retire in twenty with a thirty year pension equivalent. I don't know how to dumb it down much more than that.
Squeaky wheels get the grease!
This is beyond retarded, of course no surprise there considering the source of the idea. First thing I noticed about the order was the fact that the sgts DOG will not be affected (again, rules for US vs. rules for YOU). So they are moving all these officers into the sgts day off group in order to keep them consistent with one supervisor. They could easily do the same thing without changing everyone's DOG by matching all the officers and sgts who already share the same DOG. There are several issues that also come to mind with this: an officer who didn't get along with a particular sgt now finds himself on that sgt's team whereas before he only had to deal with him 1 or 2 days, now he has no relief; sgts who have their "favorites" (and they all do) may have them working on his/her team and special treatment will be even more pronounced than was before; a sgt from one team may cut his team early on their friday, while another sgt gives no breaks; sgts who leave early frequently and have another sgt cover for his team... all with expectation for these officers to produce more while this bs is going on-good luck. Many problems in the foreseeable future with this one.
Did we ever figure out the correct spelling of kanselllled? As in your rdo for christmas was just kanzellllllled. F u rahm and garrrrrrry.
At this point it seems the department is trying to tire us into bidding out or retiring until they've reached the desired staffing level
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Your comment is dead on. Stay strong, stay in the district. Answer the calls and do paper/notifications. They have created too many General Orders that it's impossible to complete any assignment quickly. Keep your wits.
It would be interesting to see the "blue flu" come Sunday in the three districts getting screwed. Oops I mean pilot districts.
this job is going to shit fast
Well here's the one moment to send a message. If you generate one piece of activity that is beyond what is required by the law or GOs you are a fool. Let's see how well you guys stick together.
11/06/2013 12:19:00 AM
Nah, I haven't laid down in 22 years.. I'm not gonna start now. Too many mutts on this job who think they are owed something... Do your job, it's what we get paid 80+k a year to do
In summary,
1)Why complain about having to do your job? A job you signed up to test for, went through several processes, and waited over a year, some two years, to then quit whatever your current job was and take this one? Since you accepted this job and quit whatever job you had, I am sure you weren’t happy there either. So why not do the same thing you did before, and find another job you might be happy at? One that only requires you to do work you want to do, and not what is actually in the job description, and one you accepted it when choosing the job?
2)Maybe this change will make POs accountable for how they spend their time through their shifts. For example, you come in with zeros, or mostly zeros, explain what you did for 8 ½ hours. It’s called accountability. I find it hard to believe that there were no traffic violators, parkers, or people to stop and contact card when you have a day or night where your calls for service are minimal.
3)Maybe this change will make Srgts really act like Srgts by making them accountable for the performance of those he or she leads. Maybe this will really show who has what it takes to be a Srgt-a/k/a a leader. Srgts that know how to motivate their POs to work for him/her, which in turn makes him/her “look” good. Maybe those Srgts will then make the extra effort to take care of those POs that actually work hard and keep his/her job secure and help in their advancement within the department.
4)Maybe, just maybe, if you would have just done the minimum required by the department and your job, this change would have not become necessary. Changes usually come out of necessity and when the current things in place are not working. Too many things aren’t working, so here is the change hoping it works.
5)Maybe if those that take the time to whine about all of the things they hate about their job spent just half their time on the street doing actual Police work, these changes would not be needed.
I worked in 25 for a decade and enjoyed it, for the most part. Then came the last few years, and the enjoyment really was lost. The district went from having good bosses that took care of their workers, to a district with Srgts that can’t even manage their lockers, let alone their watch. Srgts that would rather take care of those in their “click,” than those POs who work hard to earn their pay. Srgts that hideout for the entire shift, and that look down and treat their POs like fools when asked for report approvals, questions or any kind of paperwork.
If the department didn’t have LTs that allow their desk to run and mess up watches by allowing them to do as little as possible and “disappear” halfway through the shift, change wouldn’t be needed.
Maybe if the department didn’t have Srgts that allow cars that are supposed to be out patrolling the “conflict zones” to come into their “office” for 2 hours study sessions for their Srgts test while still showing “up and available,” we wouldn’t need change.
Thankfully I was able to escape the 25th district’s curse and move to a happier place. Now I can say what I want to say without fear or retaliation from all the "unhappy cray babies". This department has gone to the dogs over the past decade and continues to get worse with POs having the mentality of entitlement. No one deserves positions and perks because of who they know, or who they are related to, or even because of their race. Maybe we all should start being accountable for our own actions and what we do, or better yet, what we don’t do.
The department, just like any other successful place of work, needs to be efficient and if its employees aren’t keeping it operating as effectively as possible, then management needs to make changes to its employee structure to ensure it does become more efficient.
This profession needs to go back to what it was supposed to be, not just a job, but a calling. A calling that’s defined as “a strong desire to spend your life doing a certain kind of work.” If this isn’t your calling, do yourself, the community and the department a favor, and get a new job. Otherwise, take a look within and adapt.
In summary, you all brought it on yourselves!
FOP needs leadership with balls. Shields has none!
Supt states this is for consistent leadership and supervision
and when one squad member gets jammed up - everybody goes down
SCC can you please post a better copy of the letter? Can't read it.
Remember guys..Patrol is the backbone of the department and it's family first. Hahahahaha! But when they say that family first BS they're talking about their families.
019 is the worst it's ever been morale wise. I can only imagine how bad it would get if this BS came to 019. That would be the icing on the cake. People would be fleeing faster then they are already.
feel bad for any "squad" that gets permanently stuck with an asshole Sgt, or a Sgt who is, him/herself, a worthless no knowledge hack. yikes, day in and day out with some commander ass kissing Sgt with no chance of a break sounds terrifying. Nam' rules i guess, fight for your brothers, not the cause.
Did this in 013 in the mid 70's.It lasted about 6 months
Sounds like a Type 3 Clusterfuck.
I remember when I first came on in 95 we still had a bunch of Vietnam vets still working the streets on 1st watch. There was some change in policy that was BS. Guess what we sat on our hands and only answered calls. If someone decided to create activity, the old timers would give the same death stare they gave to Charlie in the rice patties.
No longer can a station supervisor assign a person to do the sheets or automated assignments sheets.
This will really make it hard on the station supervisor.
Because watch commanders were never responsible. They lost their "True North".
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Supt states this is for consistent leadership and supervision
Exactly how does that square with HIS decision to eliminate watch commanders?
One has to wonder what the big hurry is.
Hey Mc Doofuss. A.K.A. Supt. Asshat!
If I wanted to be on a fucking team, I would join a Tact team or some shit like it!
I like being on a Beat car! Leave me the fuck alone!
Fuck you and your team concept! Didn't work 20 years ago and will NOT work today!
i could care less as long as i get my court time n vri let knock their rocks off
McCarthy is just Rahm's puppet. Get rid of the Mayor and McCarthy goes too. On election day Vote for real change. Vote in a new Mayor!
Heh, heh. Us criminals are going to love this...
Wtf does this department have to do to break us? I have idea union should come out and demand no one work any special for a period, even two weeks, and if you don't like it get kicked out of union! They would crumble. Wtf is wrong with this department? Have some fucking balls pos!
The sgt's will not be with same p.o.'s everyday because the sgt's are not changing their day off groups. Another lie by McDummy. But the media will not report the truth! This is all an experiment to see how fucked up it will be with just three day off groups! And the p.o.'s are the lab mice and a lot of p.o.'s will get fucked out of their holiday's. That is how the city and rham treat first responders.
http://www.sj-r.com/popular_video?ndn=y&vid=25331089&lid=us&sec=breaking
This shit has been tried before. It failed.
11/06/2013 12:18:00 PM
Anonymous said...
In summary,
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In summary, blow me.
12:18:00....
You must have voted for Obama and Rahm. You must not have any friends. You appear to be a complete stroke.
This is the test for citywide 12 hour shifts next contract u heard it here first 3510 Michigan
http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=1968&issue_id=122009
NICE ARTICLE ON POLICING/COMPSTAT
"In other words, the subject matter experts and the company itself has no clue. In part one of the exam, one of the questions stated a Sgt. hears over the radio of a garage burglary. He goes on scene and only a report is required so he gives out a code. What is the correct code? It should be 19S. But in the test, the options were A, 1- 19 S B. 1-19-S etc.. All of our disposition codes begin with a number and letter, NOT a number followed by a dash then two numbers and then an alpha code!
This just tells you how smart all of those subject matter experts were."
(Shhh I/O solutions was informed of all of the errors by SME's but don't tell anyone)
In 2013 only the 012th Dist had been slated to be a Pilot Dist with 003 and 17 to follow suit in 2014. According to very reliable sources after a closed door meeting Mon , the Supt was supposedly beyond furious and reached out to MLAS to implement it immediately to "get ahead" of something ugly pending in 003 and 024. He was also screaming about A/South Dets and how could anyone be that stupid. He's been been particularly ornery lately.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Miss me yet? Jody Weiis
11/06/2013 08:29:00 AM
Yeah, about as much as we'd miss any other shark circling us in the water.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
In summary,
1)Why complain about having to do your job? A job you signed up to test for, went through several processes, and waited over a year, some two years, to then quit whatever your current job was and take this one? Since you accepted this job and quit whatever job you had, I am sure you weren’t happy there either. So why not do the same thing you did before, and find another job you might be happy at? One that only requires you to do work you want to do, and not what is actually in the job description, and one you accepted it when choosing the job?
2)Maybe this change will make POs accountable for how they spend their time through their shifts. For example, you come in with zeros, or mostly zeros, explain what you did for 8 ½ hours. It’s called accountability. I find it hard to believe that there were no traffic violators, parkers, or people to stop and contact card when you have a day or night where your calls for service are minimal.
3)Maybe this change will make Sgts really act like Sgts by making them accountable for the performance of those he or she leads. Maybe this will really show who has what it takes to be a Sgt-a/k/a a leader. Sgts that know how to motivate their POs to work for him/her, which in turn makes him/her “look” good. Maybe those Sgts will then make the extra effort to take care of those POs that actually work hard and keep his/her job secure and help in their advancement within the department.
4)Maybe, just maybe, if you would have just done the minimum required by the department and your job, this change would have not become necessary. Changes usually come out of necessity and when the current things in place are not working. Too many things aren’t working, so here is the change hoping it works.
5)Maybe if those that take the time to whine about all of the things they hate about their job spent just half their time on the street doing actual Police work, these changes would not be needed.
Maybe.....if the organization was legitimate (hiring, promotions, assignments), maybe....if there was no political corruption (the politics of race, gender, ethnicity, friendship, family ties, fraternal organizations, romantic relationships, democratic political party connections, etc.), maybe....if city government wasn't so outright corrupt, maybe.....someone could be honest enough, would have enough character and integrity, to run an efficient and professional organization.......maybe.....
It will be 143 sgt.
25 lts.h
How did that Sgt. test work out for you?
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Anonymous said...
Working in teams to address specific problems in a particular sector. Gosh, that sounds like CAPS to me.
11/06/2013 06:49:00 AM
***Sounds like regular beat officers to me!!!!****
Anonymous said...
I worked in 25 for a decade and enjoyed it, for the most part. Then came the last few years, and the enjoyment really was lost. The district went from having good bosses that took care of their workers, to a district with Srgts that can’t even manage their lockers, let alone their watch. Srgts that would rather take care of those in their “click,” than those POs who work hard to earn their pay. Srgts that hideout for the entire shift, and that look down and treat their POs like fools when asked for report approvals, questions or any kind of paperwork.
If the department didn’t have LTs that allow their desk to run and mess up watches by allowing them to do as little as possible and “disappear” halfway through the shift, change wouldn’t be needed.
Maybe if the department didn’t have Srgts that allow cars that are supposed to be out patrolling the “conflict zones” to come into their “office” for 2 hours study sessions for their Srgts test while still showing “up and available,” we wouldn’t need change.
Thankfully I was able to escape the 25th district’s curse and move to a happier place. Now I can say what I want to say without fear or retaliation from all the "unhappy cray babies". This department has gone to the dogs over the past decade and continues to get worse with POs having the mentality of entitlement. No one deserves positions and perks because of who they know, or who they are related to, or even because of their race. Maybe we all should start being accountable for our own actions and what we do, or better yet, what we don’t do.
The department, just like any other successful place of work, needs to be efficient and if its employees aren’t keeping it operating as effectively as possible, then management needs to make changes to its employee structure to ensure it does become more efficient.
This profession needs to go back to what it was supposed to be, not just a job, but a calling. A calling that’s defined as “a strong desire to spend your life doing a certain kind of work.” If this isn’t your calling, do yourself, the community and the department a favor, and get a new job. Otherwise, take a look within and adapt.
In summary, you all brought it on yourselves!
11/06/2013 12:18:00 PM
Look, what you described above is the same everywhere. Most Sgt. hate the workers because they are the ones who usually cause them to do work: investigating complaints, trr's, obr, case reports, arrest reports, taser discharge, oc discharge, etc.... While the quite officers don't cause the Sgt. any grief or work and thus get rewarded. Perhaps you are not that smart to figure that out. Perhaps you are not that smart to figure out that "working" will get you nowhere and it may even be detrimental to your career. But you know what, you are so smart. So continue to do as you please.
Anonymous said...
How is this even possible. The FOP trial panel hand picked by Shields found him not guilty of not sending the letter
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Fat Carlos opened a big can of worms here. Now we find out anyone of the executive board: Dougherty et al could have sent in the letter. This is Bill's third contract. Why Bill? Were you running for President from day one? How did you decide which issues in the office did you handle the right way and which ones did you handle in such a way to enhance your electability?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
McCarthy is just Rahm's puppet. Get rid of the Mayor and McCarthy goes too. On election day Vote for real change. Vote in a new Mayor!
11/06/2013 03:56:00 PM
Funny thing...
Every Police Super since Daley's first term has been a puppet.
Every term after Daley's first it was "Vote for Change. Vote for a New Mayor."
Meet the New Boss.
Same as the Old Boss.
This City will Never change until someone is elected that is willing to Fire All and start fresh.
And that will be a 1 term mayor.
I didn't think things could get any worse with the FOP. I heard a story about a P.O. Who served overseas and during his tour he was severely wounded. The officer has been light duty and now he was told by the city to come back full duty or apply for disability. The officer called Bill Dougherty at the FOP and asked for help getting back to full duty. Dougherty enlisted the help of FOP attorney Paul Geiger. During this process the officer received a call from Doigherty and the officer was told he was on the speaker phone with Geiger. The officer thought his prayers had been answered but the story takes a turn. The line of questioning from Dougherty was political. He wanted to know why the officer was backing Dean Angelo for FOP president. The officer could not understand what his political leanings have to do with Dougherty and Geiger working to resolve his problem. The call got uglier and the officer had his wife listen in because he could not believe how his representatives were speaking. I had heard the officer sent every FOP Board member a letter describing what transpired and his disappointment in the way he was treated by Dougherty and Geiger. The officer stated he has no confidence in their representation. The officer doesn't believe politics should interfere with FOP representation. How do I know this story is true? This officer appeared at the FOP Board meeting yesterday during the time certain to address the full Board about his treatment, I don't know what happened because transparent Mikey went into executive session and kicked everyone out of the meeting so no one could find out what was said. One Board member must be a patriot and send SCC a copy of the officers letter. We must get rid of all of these clowns, they don't represent us they represent themselves and all they worry about is their election. It's wrong on every level. Sorry for the length but this is an important story.
OT ; dow record ..started with equities from academy in 91 .stayed the course.. now bumping half a million...happy .happy. joy. joy..
Anonymous said...
No longer can a station supervisor assign a person to do the sheets or automated assignments sheets.
This will really make it hard on the station supervisor.
11/06/2013 03:16:00 PM
I did the A&A's 25 years ago when they were red & white with carbon attached. You could do them in 20 minutes & another 20 minutes to do the next days work sheets. The station supervisor doesn't have it hard, trust me.
This job isn't rocket science people!
What about all these guys that are signed up for VRI with their D.O.G. changed ? ..
What a fuckin' mess !!
The department, just like any other successful place of work, needs to be efficient and if its employees aren’t keeping it operating as effectively as possible, then management needs to make changes to its employee structure to ensure it does become more efficient.
(x13)
So, basically, do as the department wants you to do. Treat regular citizens like you want your family to be treated. Be a robot. Write that "moving violation" on that old woman! Tow that family's vehicle because they don't make 20 grand a year! Stop people who are walking down the street because they happen to live in a "narcotics area"! The Department wants you to make criminals of common folk...All this talk, and nobody seems to mention that we are "public service". No one ever mentions that we work for the people who have no voice-when ray-ray n'em sitting on these people porch, but the owner is terrified to make them move...Then we wonder why citizens will not communicate with us-it is because we are ALIENATING THE PEOPLE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING TO PROTECT!
"i could care less as long as i get my court time n vri let knock their rocks off"
I, Raham is laughing his ass off. "Divide and conquer". Ever ever hear of that dumb ass? How sad that coppers need side jobs, court time, or VRI. No one admits it but the truth is that police officers in this department are so wound up in having that nice house, car, nice vacations, amongst other excesses that they forget to look forward. Screw that guy next to you, me, me, me. That means thinking beyond tomorrow. You young bucks are so screwed, you can't even feel the rub. Stop the bitching do your time and go somewhere else. But Noooo, you retire and stay in this hole. It's not just the bosses screwing things up, it's you too. Keep working VRI, I hear next summer we'll be up to 13,000 in strength.
Miss me yet? Jody Weiis NO!
I worked in 25 for a decade and enjoyed it, for the most part. Then came the last few years, and the enjoyment really was lost. The district went from having good bosses that took care of their workers, to a district with Srgts that can’t even manage their lockers, let alone their watch. Srgts that would rather take care of those in their “click,” than those POs who work hard to earn their pay. Srgts that hideout for the entire shift, and that look down and treat their POs like fools when asked for report approvals, questions or any kind of paperwork.
If the department didn’t have LTs that allow their desk to run and mess up watches by allowing them to do as little as possible and “disappear” halfway through the shift, change wouldn’t be needed.
Maybe if the department didn’t have Srgts that allow cars that are supposed to be out patrolling the “conflict zones” to come into their “office” for 2 hours study sessions for their Srgts test while still showing “up and available,” we wouldn’t need change.
Thankfully I was able to escape the 25th district’s curse and move to a happier place.
You must be one of the reaons 25 is a great place to work again. One more crybaby who didn't get his way gone!
The best part will be the clown around be "witty" mentality that comes along with a group of cops that are on 1 job. Watch professionalism go down as well as efficiency
Rescinded ,for now...1700 hrs.
I wonder if the midnight W/C in 025 or her lackey Sgt will be required to stay past 0230 hrs when they start this? The Sgt who "thinks" he is entitled to do whatever the fuck he wants and is just as lazy as a lump of shit on a ghetto sidewalk can't even stay awake for half a tour! Then God forbid he has to leave the station to actually "work"!!! But he is usually safe and sound by 0230 hrs as the W/C is stumbling to her car after working a long 5 hour day.
Order was rescinded
Anonymous said...
Miss me yet? Jody Weiis
11/06/2013 08:29:00 AM
NO- I don't miss Jody. I wish he would just disappear for good. keep seeing him on channel 7. Worst supt. ever.
Do not fill out a volunteer DOG change form, let them place you in it against your approval. I can see a big payout with this one.
A city and department, both ran by Fools.
"Perhaps you are not that smart to figure out that "working" will get you nowhere and it may even be detrimental to your career. But you know what, you are so smart. So continue to do as you please."
1) you dont work for any reason other then making money, right???? Money to feed you and you family and pay the bills.... right?? Yes I am smart enough to keep doing as I please, make this job wk for me instead of hating every second of it while I am here. Once I leave the station I make what I want of it.
2) By not working you are not hurting anyone but yourself and the people you took an oath to protect.
Bring in all zeros, you sure showed them whos boss.
To (x13) point went way over your head.
"One more crybaby who didn't get his way gone'
not at all, just someone that was sickened by the lack of LEADERSHIP and dominance of do nothings that received all the perks that use to be for the workers.
But remember while they are screwing the patrol division, that A#1 useless staff at the Academy with no time on the job is Mon-Fri with weekends off. Why don't we list what their qualifications are to teach new recruits so the rest of us can aspire to do the same!!
Did McCarthy ever work a patrol car or what? We know daddy helped him in New York with his connections but come on already!
Look, what you described above is the same everywhere. Most Sgt. hate the workers because they are the ones who usually cause them to do work: investigating complaints, trr's, obr, case reports, arrest reports, taser discharge, oc discharge, etc.... While the quite officers don't cause the Sgt. any grief or work and thus get rewarded. Perhaps you are not that smart to figure that out. Perhaps you are not that smart to figure out that "working" will get you nowhere and it may even be detrimental to your career. But you know what, you are so smart. So continue to do as you please.
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Please resign. I wish you'd post your name, why because when I'm in roll call or notifying the detectives, of at HQ or on patrol I'd at least know what person is employed by the department who is worse than the complete shit head police fighters cr artist BS lawsuit bringers. That's who you are , unless you just love stirring the pot for a reaction such as this.
Everyone better wake up and call their State reps. MADIGAN screwed every city and state worker passing a bill to destroy park district pensions. Bill will make workers pay 2% more out of paychecks, cut retirees Cola to 1/2 of CPI and add 8 years to retirement age. If this passes the senate the court battle will commence. Funny how Madigan did this when everyone was talking about gay marriage
Shields handpicked jury is backed by his stooges on the board who allow him to skate on all charges.
Everyone who voted not guilty are banking on the fact that we will forget about this in in four or five months when the next election rolls around. I know I won't. You go into my pocket you're gone baby gone.
NOT GUILTY OF NOT SENDING THE LETTER FOR OUR RETRO.
NOT GUILTY FOR SENDING AN APPEAL LETTER LATE. You don't need a committee or investigation to know he should have been found guilty of both of these charges. The letter was sent in late and he admitted it, guilty as charged. The appeal for sending in the letter late was itself sent in past the appeal deadline, Guilty.
A group of fifth graders could have figured this out, Are you smarter than a fifth grader?
Just in case you have been in a coma for the last few months the below posts will educate you and tell you why we will not be receiving a retro check unlike every other unionized rank on our police department.
"Fair, Impartial and Totally Secret"
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13350456&postID=9208686252151157639
"FOP Hearing (UPDATE - Date Change)"
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13350456&postID=4322903210829226341
Pick Your Own jury
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13350456&postID=3274690642292391734
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Rescinded ,for now...1700 hrs.
11/06/2013 06:54:00 PM
Laughingstock of the nation.
Professional organization, my ass.
FOP met with the top brass. Order rescinded. Case closed. Good job FOP.
I, Raham is laughing his ass off. "Divide and conquer". Ever ever hear of that dumb ass? How sad that coppers need side jobs, court time, or VRI. No one admits it but the truth is that police officers in this department are so wound up in having that nice house, car, nice vacations, amongst other excesses that they forget to look forward. Screw that guy next to you, me, me, me. That means thinking beyond tomorrow. You young bucks are so screwed, you can't even feel the rub. Stop the bitching do your time and go somewhere else. But Noooo, you retire and stay in this hole. It's not just the bosses screwing things up, it's you too. Keep working VRI, I hear next summer we'll be up to 13,000 in strength.
11/06/2013 06:30:00 PM
I don't think a nice vacation is 'excessive'. It is a much-needed escape from this hellhole. You have to get away from it all somewhere relaxing and recharge the batteries, so to speak
I agree on the car issue though. Who can keep a nice car in this place with all the damned potholes, drunks and copious amounts of road salt in winter? My vehicle is strictly transportation, not a status symbol
OT.... I want to thank the fop for getting this nonsense postponed until Jan. I also want to thank the watch rep on third watch in 012 that kid busts his ass thanks
4)Maybe, just maybe, if you would have just done the minimum required by the department and your job, this change would have not become necessary
Your analysis of the situation is completely off. The "minimum required" constantly changes, and not in the officer's favor. I signed up to be part of a 13,000 member Department. This staffing level has not been maintained. We keep being asked to "do more with less". The goalposts keep moving. I don't blame formerly-productive officers from laying down after they keep getting shat upon
Changes usually come out of necessity and when the current things in place are not working. Too many things aren’t working, so here is the change hoping it works
Seriously? How long have you lived in Chicago? This is entirely laughable. Just to give one example (and rest assured, there are hundreds more) MSF and TRU were working perfectly fine. They got disbanded for reasons that had absolutely NOTHING to do with their efficacy. It was only done because of a political promise Rham made, and bodies were needed. Afterwards the streets ran with blood.
5)Maybe if those that take the time to whine about all of the things they hate about their job spent just half their time on the street doing actual Police work, these changes would not be needed
Yea. And maybe if early American coal miners just shut up and did their jobs, none of those unpleasant strikes would have taken place. The nerve!!! A little Black Lung is part of the job you signed up for!
11/06/2013 12:18:00 PM
You sir, are a tool
I think it's a great idea. Everyone always preaches supervisor accountability, well here it is. Also, you will always have the same sgt.
Who ever keeps saying 12 is a slow district better usm g/12 on a weekend on midnights. Since the merge we r not slow.
"I wonder if the midnight W/C in 025 or her lackey Sgt will be required to stay past 0230 hrs when they start this? The Sgt who "thinks" he is entitled to do whatever the fuck he wants and is just as lazy as a lump of shit on a ghetto sidewalk can't even stay awake for half a tour! Then God forbid he has to leave the station to actually "work"!!! But he is usually safe and sound by 0230 hrs as the W/C is stumbling to her car after working a long 5 hour day."
This is the same Srgt that's holds study sessions each night JUST for the selected 2 who are supposed to be working the 30 sector "conflict zone". Not to mention names but from what I'm told it is a certain white female and her black male partner. Not seeing it for myself but from what I am hearing this "Srgt" holds a couple hour study sessions with those 2 each night while they wait for dispatch to call them for a jobs. then when they do get called its the classic, oh sqd we were just about to ask for lunch bull. Someone has to snap a quick picture and post it here because its UNFREAKING BELIEVABLE!
Anonymous said...
But remember while they are screwing the patrol division, that A#1 useless staff at the Academy with no time on the job is Mon-Fri with weekends off. Why don't we list what their qualifications are to teach new recruits so the rest of us can aspire to do the same!!
11/06/2013 09:45:00 PM
__________________
1. Have Clout
2. Be Illiterate
3. Be Dumb, not be able to synthesize two concepts
4. If you are retarded, you are in
4. Be Inarticulate
5. Unwashed
6. Not Cultured
7. Not be able to explain things (read from a power point)
My friend, there you have it. The Seven Habits of Highly Retarded Academy Instructors.
You can take that to the bank!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I remember when I first came on in 95 we still had a bunch of Vietnam vets still working the streets on 1st watch. There was some change in policy that was BS. Guess what we sat on our hands and only answered calls. If someone decided to create activity, the old timers would give the same death stare they gave to Charlie in the rice patties.
11/06/2013 02:27:00 PM
I call bullshit on that one. I came on in 91 in started off in 015. Old timers as you call wouldn't give you a death stare if you generated activity. They would pat you on the back and say good job kid.
Anonymous said...
I didn't think things could get any worse with the FOP. I heard a story about a P.O. Who served overseas and during his tour he was severely wounded. The officer has been light duty and now he was told by the city to come back full duty or apply for disability. The officer called Bill Dougherty at the FOP and asked for help getting back to full duty. Dougherty enlisted the help of FOP attorney Paul Geiger. During this process the officer received a call from Doigherty and the officer was told he was on the speaker phone with Geiger. The officer thought his prayers had been answered but the story takes a turn. The line of questioning from Dougherty was political. He wanted to know why the officer was backing Dean Angelo for FOP president. The officer could not understand what his political leanings have to do with Dougherty and Geiger working to resolve his problem. The call got uglier and the officer had his wife listen in because he could not believe how his representatives were speaking. I had heard the officer sent every FOP Board member a letter describing what transpired and his disappointment in the way he was treated by Dougherty and Geiger. The officer stated he has no confidence in their representation. The officer doesn't believe politics should interfere with FOP representation. How do I know this story is true? This officer appeared at the FOP Board meeting yesterday during the time certain to address the full Board about his treatment, One Board member must be a patriot and send SCC a copy of the officers letter.
11/06/2013 06:16:00 PM
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You got the 1st half of the story correct. The guy you are writing about was out of town and was not at the Board Meeting! He will be back soon. This will all play out within a week or so.
BD remember what goes around comes around. To those too young to know when the City-Wide team ran against the Nolan team it was the most dirty underhanded campaign you could have imagined. Once they won the went on to do the Salem Witch trials against us.
But if you disagree with the City-wide group, they will just throw you out of the union - Wayne-Sean-Harold?
And how to they justify saying anything about the makeup of the fact finding panel? Mark Donohue was brought up on charges twice.
So BD if the process was good enough for Mark why not now.
"5)Maybe if those that take the time to whine about all of the things they hate about their job spent just half their time on the street doing actual Police work, these changes would not be needed."
Police Presence alone is a crime deterrent, somehow that concept has been lost by suckholes like yourself that bought into this best practices Bullcrap the powers that be learned @ some management seminar.
What wood give D.D. formerly of 019 then sent to 017 qualified to psych some1? Doubt she went to college and if she did a B.A. in psych doesn't give her nearly enough insight & knowledge to perform that task.
Also, "Iron Mike" from wherever that flavor savor person is now could psych some1 w/out a degree in anything. "Iron Mike" signed off on a lot of psyches while excusing himself to pop his multiple "psychotropic drugs" w/out anything nearing training.
C'mon, Iron Mike, what was in that gym bag that U kept going in & out of U'r car all nite for? Also, inspector? When "Iron Mike" caught U w/a very minor uniform adjustment needed, U bet U'r left nut(pun intended)that Ur ass was dropping paper. He wore a regular jacket till the weather was nice plus he spent his last hour in the A/3 basement working out. That's an hour out of his tour stealing time. U think "Iron Mike" wood gig ya for both? I'll leave it up to y'all to decide. 03:00 hour self ducts were so common it was disgraceful.
Please leave the Belmont Peeps alone other then U'r(I'm gonna laugh)U'r trophy side dish.
Neither have ever did anything that they DIDN'T want to do since Ryan was made.
Holy D-Bags, Fatman!
What department did you think you were joining? Corruption? Unfairness? Clout? C'mon already. Same bullshit this dept has always had. Same coppers who belittle a suburban dept or "slow" district Police for not being the "real" Police, yet bitch moan and cry and say do not do shit for this city. There are plenty of working Police who take pride in there profession, watch out for their partners and go home safe every night to their families. Those are the ones who know its fucked up have always known its fucked up and always will be, but still do what they signed up for knowing nothings gonna ever be perfect. Stay safe all of you.
But remember while they are screwing the patrol division, that A#1 useless staff at the Academy with no time on the job is Mon-Fri with weekends off. Why don't we list what their qualifications are to teach new recruits so the rest of us can aspire to do the same!!
11/06/2013 09:45:00 PM
You sir are an idiot. Like so many others in this dept. You run your mouth without a clue. The academy does have useless instructors but it also has good ones. I'd like to see your other qualifications besides that big mouth of yours.
Fat Carlos opened a big can of worms here. Now we find out anyone of the executive board: Dougherty et al could have sent in the letter. This is Bill's third contract. Why Bill? Were you running for President from day one? How did you decide which issues in the office did you handle the right way and which ones did you handle in such a way to enhance your electability?
Rick go look for your dogs!! Woof Woof!
012 is now a superdistrict after the merge of 013 and 012 and being a somewhat slow district, Rahm would love to move some manpower away
024 has been rumored to be merging with 020 for at least two years now
003 might just be the token south side district thrown in the mix, or maybe this is a precursor to chopping it up between 002, 004, 006 and 007
maybe I'm way off base here but to me it looks like a way to eventually divert manpower away from taxpayers
012 is not a slow district
Thanks to the 3rd district watch rep for coming in on a day off to talk to us the unit rep just walked by in a huff all day
"Bill will make workers pay 2% more out of paychecks, cut retirees Cola to 1/2 of CPI and add 8 years to retirement age."
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Actually, he's hitting them for THREE PERCENT not 2, by 2018. He's raising the age for people under 45 UP another 8 years.
COLA is half the rate of inflation, not the CPI.
He's also CUTTING THE COLA PAYMENTS in 2015, 2017 and 2019 which means ZERO COLA for those employees in those years.
Go read the article before they take it down, it's at the BOTTOM of the Emanuel Gun Legislation Springfield article on breaking news.
The part I'd love to see proven is the comment that this was done IN NEGOTIATION WITH UNION EMPLOYEES, because I can't see ANY employee taking it up the ass like this.
A THIRTY THREE PERCENT INCREASE in employee contributions means they're basically paying for their own pensions.
Also, notice how there's NO GUARANTEE OF MANDATORY PAYMENTS BY THE PARK DISTRICT OR THEY CAN BE FORCED TO PAY THROUGH THE COURT!!!!!!
Park D employees aren't stupid enough to sell themselves out this bad. Let's go talk to a few and find out whether they had any say so in this bullshit.
But remember while they are screwing the patrol division, that A#1 useless staff at the Academy with no time on the job is Mon-Fri with weekends off. Why don't we list what their qualifications are to teach new recruits so the rest of us can aspire to do the same!!
My Daddy works for Burke and my brother is on the mayors detail like my dad was before he retired!
The last squad I can recall is right here:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rjb5qHu7D9Q
No longer can a station supervisor assign a person to do the sheets or automated assignments sheets.
This will really make it hard on the station supervisor.
11/06/2013 03:16:00 PM
Ok, wink wink. I'll believe it when I see it.
Everyone better wake up and call their State reps. MADIGAN screwed every city and state worker passing a bill to destroy park district pensions. Bill will make workers pay 2% more out of paychecks, cut retirees Cola to 1/2 of CPI and add 8 years to retirement age. If this passes the senate the court battle will commence. Funny how Madigan did this when everyone was talking about gay marriage
Actually pay 3% more by 2017 out of paychecks. Retirees will 1/2 of CPI but will also lose that for the years 2015,2017 and 2019. They could get 1% every other year
"Police presence alone is a crime deterant," yup your right but when your presence is in a dark park or another area that you are the only one present, you cant really use that theory!
Anonymous said...
"I wonder if the midnight W/C in 025 or her lackey Sgt will be required to stay past 0230 hrs when they start this? The Sgt who "thinks" he is entitled to do whatever the fuck he wants and is just as lazy as a lump of shit on a ghetto sidewalk can't even stay awake for half a tour! Then God forbid he has to leave the station to actually "work"!!! But he is usually safe and sound by 0230 hrs as the W/C is stumbling to her car after working a long 5 hour day."
This is the same Srgt that's holds study sessions each night JUST for the selected 2 who are supposed to be working the 30 sector "conflict zone". Not to mention names but from what I'm told it is a certain white female and her black male partner. Not seeing it for myself but from what I am hearing this "Srgt" holds a couple hour study sessions with those 2 each night while they wait for dispatch to call them for a jobs. then when they do get called its the classic, oh sqd we were just about to ask for lunch bull. Someone has to snap a quick picture and post it here because its UNFREAKING BELIEVABLE!
11/06/2013 11:46:00 PM
Sir/Madam your description of lazy will be forever ingrained in my mind. If you ever see anyone just bust out laughing for no apparent reason it's probably me reflecting on your post.
Everyone better wake up and call their State reps. MADIGAN screwed every city and state worker passing a bill to destroy park district pensions. Bill will make workers pay 2% more out of paychecks, cut retirees Cola to 1/2 of CPI and add 8 years to retirement age. If this passes the senate the court battle will commence. Funny how Madigan did this when everyone was talking about gay marriage
It is worse than you stated COLA for the years 2015,2017 and 2019 would be eliminated. I just check on the CPI and it was 1.2% for this year. Hell, retirees would get a .6% raise every other year for 3 years and no raise for the other 3 years. This basically eliminated the cola
Current US Inflation Rates: 2003-2013
The latest annual inflation rate for the United States is 1.2% through the 12 months ended September 2013. The next inflation update published by the US government is scheduled for release on November 20, 2013 at 8:30 a.m. ET. That series of data was originally set for November 15 but was rescheduled with the US government shutdown cited as the reason. This upcoming data update will show the inflation rate over the 12 months ended October 2013.
" I'd like to see your other qualifications besides that big mouth of yours."
struck a nerve there
012 district has the nightclubs, restaurants, bars, abla, new haven, and it stretches all the way to madison and kedzie. It also has jackson and halsted and all the way down to pilsen. Oh and I forgot about st stevens, united center, and all the hospitals where everyone elses stuff flows into. Thats what happens when you merge two districts together and guys keep retiring and they dont bring in any more manpower.BACKLOG
ya, so if I"m on furlo, then what? I come back in some odd day off group? How do I know when to come back if I have time on the end of my furlo, which was filled out in DOG 66, which apparently no longer exists? Gee, maybe the brain trust should have pulled this crap, I dunno, first period NEXT year? Babysitting, school, all of this totally flipped upside down. but hey, if we are like Detroit, at least we will get 11 cents on the dollar for our pensions...
If only there was some unit that could be deployed citywide at a moment's notice, that was left alone to do police work…. nah. never work out. Let's just mess up our employee's personal lives instead..
Here is an honest question, hoping someone here can provide some insight. I don't have 20 years yet, but am on the back stretch of my career. Am very concerned that our pension is going to end up like Detroit's… where I will get a whopping 11 cents on the dollar. NO WAY am I sticking around to 20, embarking on my retirement, than only to find out that 15 years later, AFTER I retire that the pension is gone and I need to get a new job at the age of 60 something. It's VERY tempting to pull the plug now, before I reach 50 years old and 20 years on, roll what I have in my pension into an IRA, and simply start another job…. basically, what I'm asking, is ARE WE STICKING AROUND FOR A PENSION THAT IS NOT REALLY THERE? Kindly direct any snide comments to your own sphincter… Instead of the Union debacle DETROIT and OUR PENSION should be front and center. Thanks!
I'll have to finish reading the rest at VRI tonight. Just heard its been extended. Another $1,000 a month into def comp and extra for Disney.
As a vet I am disgusted at the way Dougherty and Geiger treated a wounded vet. Every cop should be disgusted. Dougherty and Geiger work for us not some political alliance. It's time to storm the hall.
Bill D. is no better than Shields. We must vote, we must throw them all out. You saw the list of who voted with Shields but the others are just as bad. Get rid of them all. When you get your ballot just look inside your FOP book cover. Don't vote for anyone listed there. Every time the forest burns down it comes back stronger.
Dougherty threw Harold Brown out of the FOP because he dared to inform the membership about Shields secretary's letter. She documented that Shields didn't send the letter. Brown should get a medal for standing up to these thugs.
Sorry Bill, wasnt me. I was told you mentioned my name and found it.You need to keep up the search for the blogger attacking you. Wasnt me Bill. You dont want me going after you on this blog.
Hey Dougherty let us see the letter. You can't explain your actions!
"Dougherty threw Harold Brown out of the FOP because he dared to inform the membership about Shields secretary's letter. She documented that Shields didn't send the letter. Brown should get a medal for standing up to these thugs.
11/07/2013 07:19:00 PM"
Harold is a one way bully jagoff that was taken care of his entire career. Good Riddance to that what's in it for me a-hole
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