VRI Expanding - The Second Hint
- Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Monday shaved a quarter off his 75-cents-a-pack cigarette tax hike to appease black aldermen concerned about street corner sales of loose cigarettes, but buried a $25 million plan to hire hundreds of additional police officers instead of relying so heavily on overtime.
The fifty-cent a pack raise will fuel another surge in black market sales of untaxed cigarettes. And the overtime costs will continue to rise:
- At a meeting Monday, the Budget Committee buried a $25 million amendment that would have substituted the hiring of hundreds of additional officers for police overtime expected to top $93 million this year and $75 million in 2014.
At one point, Austin inadvertently called for a voice vote on the amendment and aldermen approved it on a voice vote.
Only after Ald. Jim Balcer (11th) caught the mistake did Austin call the roll on a motion to table the police hiring plan, instead of approving it. The vote was 18-to-4. No votes were cast by Aldermen Leslie Hairston (5th), Ricardo Munoz (22nd) and Scott Waguespack (32nd), Michael Chandler (24th).
Prior to the corrected vote, Budget Director Alex Holt argued that $25 million was only enough to hire “a little over 200” new officers and that the city could buy nearly 116,000 additional “police man hours” with overtime, after pension and health benefits are factored in.
Ald. John Arena (45th) didn’t buy it.
“I agree with her just on a straight, can you get in more man hours? But what’s the quality of those man hours?” Arena said.
Six-of-one, half-a-dozen of the other. If the purpose is high-visibility patrol, it's a win for man-hours on the street. If it's numbers driven, well, they're getting a steady flow of people who want to be eligible for OT bringing in activity who wouldn't otherwise. At some point though, we imagine someone is going to kick UP the the numbers to qualify for overtime. What's stopping them from doubling the Parkers, Movers, Contact Cards, whatever generates the numbers (or revenue) to get a piece of the pie? Nothing, nothing at all.
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
63 Comments:
Rahm and mccarthy and all the other excerpts are so dumb that they won't pay a regular PO the $7 (2? w/ taxes)more a day to work as an FTO while that would instantly add another 2man vehicle to the street. And since each fto's has 3 recruits with 2 to 3 on each watch that would be another 6 10-4 cars up on the watch. For straight time. But they want to expand the overtime cars. (Which is cool too but it's my tax money they r spending and it's not by my house)
See here, instead of hiring 200 officers to patrol and pay into pension they will hire back people for overtime. Read the article it's admitted by the city.. Why pay extra for a new officer when VRI can be beefed up instead saving the city money on health and pension costs. We have no new bodies to pay into the pension. Keep working VRI now and your shooting yourself and the rest of us in the foot in the future. I understand tuition and bills but if you keep workin, it will have a disastrous effect on our future. People refuse to understand that... They are memorized by the quick and easy dollar. Can't blame them but you've got to think and have discipline... But then again it's cpd, we lack both of those things....
What the City is doing, by pimping us out for overtime, is opening the floodgates for multimillion dollar legal settlements.
All an attorney will have to do is pull up your documented VRI and other overtime to 'prove' how your judgement was impaired due to overwork and exhaustion. Let the lawsuits fly. Penny wise, pound foolish, as is always the case with the City of Chicago.
10 DAYS A MONTH and maybe i come back to working it!
Don't bitch about getting time denied because of lack of man power while you write 2 books of parkers& bring in 6 juvys for reckless to get your VRI activity.
It's self defeating & non sustainable in the long run.
These are the same cops who bitch about time with my family. Keep working VRI until you end up in a early grave and see how much family time you have then.
Thanks Jimbo Balcer
The problem is no additional police being hired means no additional money coming into the pension fund.
VRI is the water that washes away our pension foundation. It effects all police officers all the time because officers that work it are tired when they work. Tired in both mind and body. This increases the danger to each and every one of us.
We constantly raise the red flag over quotas but happily fill the quota for VRI. Where are all the questions and false concern about good citizens getting sandbagged?
Work it if you want to, but you know in your heart it is the wrong thing to do. You are hurting each and every one of us.
VRI is a massive waste of taxpayer money!!
This is great news! I will do whatever they ask for my VRI!
VRI is here to stay!
Idiots. And they are in charge?
Cannot fund the pension with VRI. We need new blood to chip in
Budget director Alexandra Holt claimed that police salary tops $100,000 after 4 years... really thats news to me have we be getting shorted on our pay checks all this time !!!
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20131125/downtown/proposal-hire-more-cops-tabled-budget-committee
Maybe I misread the article. Can someone check my math -
Option A: 200 new officers, working 35 hours a week, 48 weeks a year = 336,000 hours
Option B (from the article): "116,000 additional 'police man hours' with overtime, after pension and health benefits are factored in."
Option A gives the city three times as many police man-hours if we hire the officers...
336,000 man hours for $25 million a year, or 116,000 hours for some $75-$93 million a year in over time. Hiring means three times the man-hours for a third the cost.
Or even if I mesread the quote in the article, 336,000 man hours for $25 million vs 116,000 OT hours for the same $25 million. But actual OT expenditures expected to be triple that amount at $75 - $93Million. Which gets you the same number of man-hours for a third the cost if we hire officers.
Can that be right? If so, then this city counsel argument isn't really about the number of police hours for the cost. From my experience in private industry, the only way this makes sense is if the city is making the claim that the extra manpower hours are only a temporary, short-term need and that long-term the current staffing levels are appropriate and correct.
(I am not a cop, so excuse any wrong assumptions I made)
Here's an early Happy Thanksgiving to all our men & women in blue! Thank you for all you do.
Just allow me to work fool-time VRI instead of a beat car -- no stress, no more reports or arrests, only contact cards, parkers, movers and "squad I need a paper car."
the city did not spend almost 100 million on police overtime because they wanted to--- it was the result of a spike in crime in 2012 which brought chicago national media attention--- jody "possum head" weis sounded the alarm that more hiring was needed--- king shorty spanked him and ran him out of city hall telling him to make it happen with what you have--- the city gambled and lost, they wanted to see how low they could drop the manpower and still be effective and it bit them in the ass--- now they pay thru the ass for 2 old guys to sit on a corner reading the newspaper and telling war stories on their day off....
Anonymous said...
These are the same cops who bitch about time with my family. Keep working VRI until you end up in a early grave and see how much family time you have then.
11/26/2013 03:37:00 AM
I'll never bitch about time with your family.
Your Mom makes the tastiest meatloaf ever, your Dad can put down beers with the best of them and tells the funniest jokes, and your kid brother is really a hoot.
And when it comes to your sister? Well, let's just say SCCs blog administrators would never allow such deviate carnality to see the light of day here.
I completely understand your concerns, but I promise you right here and now that I'll make time for your family no matter how much VRI I work.
Tell the folks I'll see them at noon on Sunday for the Bears/Vikings game.
I hope they add more for the Christmas season. Boul Mich is so pretty with all the lights.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
The theme throughout these first comments seem to indicate an understanding that VRI is not in the best interest of the CPD. CPD meaning the working blue shirts and their immediate supervisors. Having been retired for a few years, I would also agree that it is not in the best interest of the retirees or for that matter future retirees. Now comes the history lesson. Back in the eighties the city and FOP were in heated negotiations regarding the then current contract. The city was pushing secondary employment due to crime in the CHA jets. An underground movement was started to boycott the program by the blue shirts. At a union meeting it was brought up that while patrol was boycotting, many detectives were not. FOP put out a memo "advising" all of it's membership to not partake in the overtime program. As many within the Det. division were militant union members who were instrumental when we first got the right to have a bargaining unit the division on a majority basis followed FOP's advice. All except a certain detective, who had the balls to later become VP of the Sgt.'s bargaining unit. (A story for a later date) It is my belief that the boycott was successful My point is, have FOP advise against VRI, point out how it hurts everyone and advise (not order) that it be ignored. If members still participate, well then they should be viewed for what they really are SCABS! A document advising this course would not be considered a formal job action, it would only advise members on the position of the FOP. Officers have the right not to participate in VRI.
What the City is doing, by pimping us out for overtime, is opening the floodgates for multimillion dollar legal settlements.
All an attorney will have to do is pull up your documented VRI and other overtime to 'prove' how your judgement was impaired due to overwork and exhaustion. Let the lawsuits fly. Penny wise, pound foolish, as is always the case with the City of Chicago.
You have no idea of what you are talking about. Many po's and bosses work one of their days off and sometimes both at other outside jobs. Its called secondary employment. What they dont get tired from working their days off. Just working VRI makes you exhausted, not a painter, mover, teacher that these guys work
Good luck on all these lawsuits
What the City is doing, by pimping us out for overtime, is opening the floodgates for multimillion dollar legal settlements.
All an attorney will have to do is pull up your documented VRI and other overtime to 'prove' how your judgement was impaired due to overwork and exhaustion. Let the lawsuits fly. Penny wise, pound foolish, as is always the case with the City of Chicago.
If your judgement is impaired from working a day off maybe the CPD should not allow secondary employment. Thats how flawed you idea is about lawsuits.
I know police that work manual labor on their off time and security which is almost the same as VRI Thats different?
What the City is doing, by pimping us out for overtime, is opening the floodgates for multimillion dollar legal settlements.
All an attorney will have to do is pull up your documented VRI and other overtime to 'prove' how your judgement was impaired due to overwork and exhaustion. Let the lawsuits fly. Penny wise, pound foolish, as is always the case with the City of Chicago.
VRI has been going on for quite a while and I have not read all those stories of the cops having problems of exhaustion and impaired judgement
Dont worry lawyers will be fighting for this lawsuit, but will want to get paid by the hour, not a continguency
Why do so many of the officers out there keep bad mouthing vri I assume because they can't work it or are lazy asses that dont want to get activity. Do you think for a min that r contract would be settled the city would hire more officers if vri didnt exist. Everyone has different financial problems. So I say to all you complaining and telling me about spending time with my family and how I should be able to live on what I make mind ur own fuckin business and dont worry what I do.I dont give a shit what u do fukin crybabies. Now go work cta for straight time cause u can't work vri.
These are the same cops who bitch about time with my family. Keep working VRI until you end up in a early grave and see how much family time you have then.
11/26/2013 03:37:00 AM
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You are correct.
Sitting in a squad car doing NOTHING all night but sleeping will kill you fast.
McCarthy sure is lucky last years homicide rate soared; because of weather, period!!! If the weather didn't help him his stats would show that homicides are not down because of his genius comstat or any other policy. They are holding steady + or - a few. He's going to bet the bank on last years numbers averaging it in during his tenure. Subtract last year and he's a failure.
The wrecking ball did it all. Pre- high rise projects we were at these numbers.
I love VRI, I'll do what ever they want to get it.
Cha ching!
Well my fellow officers and those WHO keep knocking VRI its here to stay and I must say thank you for VRI. I was able to fix my building and start collecting rent, but we as police can't think outside the box. It seems that in my 18 years a s a P.O. all I see is policemen bitch and moan about money but always drive a new car. Fuck invest and not in the ghetto and think about other sources of income since the city is not going to do shit about pension whether we work VRI or not. Get smart and do something with whatever money comes your way. Good luck
35 years on the job , 60 years old and work vri every chance I get , easy money
rahmmie my boy , raise that mandatory age to 65 , I will stay , work all that ot I can
no need to hire , hair gels afraid to write a ticket or toss a car , oh yeah
made over 100k last year
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don't bitch about getting time denied because of lack of man power while you write 2 books of parkers& bring in 6 juvys for reckless to get your VRI activity.
It's self defeating & non sustainable in the long run.
11/26/2013 12:35:00 AM
Fuck activity. I worked a beat car and I wrote one mover and less than one book of parkers my entire last year on the job. Fuck them.
Naturally I continued to arrest those that deserved it and always backed people up quickly. No school absentees, no contact cards, no citations of any kind.
A John Marshall graduate?
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All an attorney will have to do is pull up your documented VRI and other overtime to 'prove' how your judgement (sic) was impaired due to overwork and exhaustion. Let the lawsuits fly. Penny wise, pound foolish, as is always the case with the City of Chicago.
Can't blame them but you've got to think and have discipline... But then again it's cpd, we lack both of those things....
11/26/2013 12:17:00 AM
Speak for yourself, you sound like a HQ POS that has to look up any UCR code needed. Oh, wait - that would be IF you and the other pussies you are on a par with made an arrest. Go work for the Chiefy - listen to him tell you his hero stories and leave police work to those that know how.
fools write "no new bodies to pay into into the pension" blah blah blah so the pension is one big ponzi scheme. if its going to collapse, it's gonna collapse even if 200 new employees contribute. 200 is not enough to sustain that. look it up!
Every man for himself. Rahm wins.
Seiser Loves it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A John Marshall graduate?
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All an attorney will have to do is pull up your documented VRI and other overtime to 'prove' how your judgement (sic) was impaired due to overwork and exhaustion. Let the lawsuits fly. Penny wise, pound foolish, as is always the case with the City of Chicago.
11/26/2013 03:27:00 PM
Well, we know YOU must be one. After all, don't they teach you to distract from the point at hand, rather than address it?
Spelling isn't the point (sic). The City refusing to hire, supposedly saving money in the short term (but ending up paying out BIG in the long term) is the point.
You have no idea of what you are talking about. Many po's and bosses work one of their days off and sometimes both at other outside jobs. Its called secondary employment. What they dont get tired from working their days off. Just working VRI makes you exhausted, not a painter, mover, teacher that these guys work
Good luck on all these lawsuits
11/26/2013 10:43:00 AM
I know full-well what I'm talking about. I made a lot of money working Dan Ryan special, before they limited it to a few days a month. I worked every day of my furlough and every day off and I banked a lot of cash. I also didn't know what day of the week it was, some days, when I woke up, but I digress. (Or maybe that was my point.)
Bottom-feeding attorneys ask questions in court. Like, "Were you on duty at the time of the incident?" And, how many hours had you worked in the prior 96hrs. And how many of those hours were for CPD. And how many hours were at another job, where and for how long. Doing what? How many hours of sleep did you get?
You can bash me all you want, because it sounds like YOU have never been hit with one of these invasive, suggestive, reach-for- the-sky, financial lawsuits (and you should be glad of it), but until you're on the receiving end of one of these, don't tell me how it goes. Are you really so clueless about the wholesale movement to damage and discredit us that's going on out there?
To 9:15 am you are a moron no matter how much overtime you work you will still probably be financially screwed. I hope your saving it all so you can support your family with no pension, or maybe you can use the extra money to remodeled your basement so your kids will have somewhere to live after they finish college so shortsighted it's pathetic.
Everybody download "Trapster" onto your smartphones to help keep this thieving Mayor Rahm out of your pockets!
It tells you where the red light and speed cameras are!
Fuck this Mayor Rahm, piece of shit jagoff!
Da Pelon
VRI Guy said...
This is great news! I will do whatever they ask for my VRI!
VRI is here to stay!
11/26/2013 08:30:00 AM
Spoken like a true prostitute.
News flash! The Mayor wants to let the Pension funds go BANKRUPT, as reported on Fox Business Channel!
Then it will be just Deferred Comp and that's it!
It has already happened in Utah!
The State of Utah killed their pensions for 457 only!
Something to watch out for! We are NEXT, Chicago and Illinois pension funds are going to be relics and a memory! You heard it here first!
To 11:10 am I think your a idiot for working VRI, but I agree it's none of my business my problem is when the majority of lazy coppers who blow off jobs or lay down on jobs all day, because they're tired from working all this overtime. If you can handle god bless but most guys can't and I have to pick up the slack and I have more than enough time to get days in any district so don't think Im complaining cause I don't have the senority. One other thing if you can't figure out a way to live comfortably on our salary then you probably will just squander all the extra money your making.
http://www.americanlegislator.org/the-utah-pension-reform-model/
This is what Illinois and Chicago is looking to do!
Our pension funds are doomed to failure on purpose by Rahm and Quinn!
The city needs to double there monthly payments and kick in at least half the total money owed before things get any worse. Let's go fop and pension board do your jobs
To 2:16pm after taxes what did you make hourly last year. I would be impressed if you can make over 100k a year thru investments and not paying high income tax on your earnings. Keep being Rahms pawn for your paltry wage. Invest your money wisely and it works for you. 22 years on far from a hairgel
The theme throughout these first comments seem to indicate an understanding that VRI is not in the best interest of the CPD. CPD meaning the working blue shirts and their immediate supervisors. Having been retired for a few years, I would also agree that it is not in the best interest of the retirees or for that matter future retirees. Now comes the history lesson. Back in the eighties the city and FOP were in heated negotiations regarding the then current contract. The city was pushing secondary employment due to crime in the CHA jets. An underground movement was started to boycott the program by the blue shirts. At a union meeting it was brought up that while patrol was boycotting, many detectives were not. FOP put out a memo "advising" all of it's membership to not partake in the overtime program. As many within the Det. division were militant union members who were instrumental when we first got the right to have a bargaining unit the division on a majority basis followed FOP's advice. All except a certain detective, who had the balls to later become VP of the Sgt.'s bargaining unit. (A story for a later date) It is my belief that the boycott was successful My point is, have FOP advise against VRI, point out how it hurts everyone and advise (not order) that it be ignored. If members still participate, well then they should be viewed for what they really are SCABS! A document advising this course would not be considered a formal job action, it would only advise members on the position of the FOP. Officers have the right not to participate in VRI.
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boys and girls pay attention to this... In fact SCC can you Please make this a topic? This idea, although not a new idea as he said is a HUGE bargaining chip at the contract table. If we collectively stop working VRI at the right times when crime gets out of control it will hurt the city. We cannot strike... but, we dont have to work overtime initiatives. Think about it, the city knows that VRI is 100 percent needed to tamp down crime. If VRI is gone there is no way there can be any sort of coverage with no outside units anymore. If its made a point to the city at the bargaining table they will maybe be willing to give us a few things back such as retro.. no increase in health insurance etc.. think about it. I know the money is so damn easy but in the long run this could help us out, especially if it means not paying extra for our health coverage. I know many "folks" only care about sleeping on vri for that check but we ALL need to get on board with this. Im curious on some feedback on this idea. Scc, how bout it can you test the waters with this and make it a thread??? Can it work? I think it can be a great chip for us to hold.. its our way of striking without striking.
Fuck activity. I worked a beat car and I wrote one mover and less than one book of parkers my entire last year on the job. Fuck them.
Naturally I continued to arrest those that deserved it and always backed people up quickly. No school absentees, no contact cards, no citations of any kind.
11/26/2013 02:52:00 PM
wow, you must be proud of yourself. I wonder what would happen to a guy who worked at a business who was proud of that... oh yeah, he would have been fired. You were lazy, and we are glad your gone. Im glad that your happy and proud to be a lazy dog. Glad you really set the bar high and went out on top. thank you for retiring, our dept is much, much better without you. now go stare at the wall and wait for the big one to hit...
35 years on the job , 60 years old and work vri every chance I get , easy money
rahmmie my boy , raise that mandatory age to 65 , I will stay , work all that ot I can
no need to hire , hair gels afraid to write a ticket or toss a car , oh yeah
made over 100k last year
11/26/2013 02:16:00 PM
you may want to consider getting yourself a life. 65 is getting closer to the end than you thing... 15 years after 65 is 80.. not too much can be done for you anymore at 80 years old... think about it.. life is short. leave the job and enjoy life. this job is not life. do yourself and family a favor. money isnt worth it
I came here alone. I put my trust in no one. Rahm does win. We are divided. Fuck you all I will work as much as I want
You have no idea of what you are talking about. Many po's and bosses work one of their days off and sometimes both at other outside jobs. Its called secondary employment. What they dont get tired from working their days off. Just working VRI makes you exhausted, not a painter, mover, teacher that these guys work
Good luck on all these lawsuits
11/26/2013 10:43:00 AM
I know full-well what I'm talking about. I made a lot of money working Dan Ryan special, before they limited it to a few days a month. I worked every day of my furlough and every day off and I banked a lot of cash. I also didn't know what day of the week it was, some days, when I woke up, but I digress. (Or maybe that was my point.)
Bottom-feeding attorneys ask questions in court. Like, "Were you on duty at the time of the incident?" And, how many hours had you worked in the prior 96hrs. And how many of those hours were for CPD. And how many hours were at another job, where and for how long. Doing what? How many hours of sleep did you get?
You can bash me all you want, because it sounds like YOU have never been hit with one of these invasive, suggestive, reach-for- the-sky, financial lawsuits (and you should be glad of it), but until you're on the receiving end of one of these, don't tell me how it goes. Are you really so clueless about the wholesale movement to damage and discredit us that's going on out there?
11/26/2013 06:47:00 PM
That attorney probably works 60 hours a week. What about ER doctors? You do realize that we are big boys and big boys are allowed to work more than 40 hours a week right? You people honestly sound retarded. Truck drivers can drive their trucks 70 hours per week and you don't think people can show up to work for 48?
35 years on the job , 60 years old and work vri every chance I get , easy money
rahmmie my boy , raise that mandatory age to 65 , I will stay , work all that ot I can
no need to hire , hair gels afraid to write a ticket or toss a car , oh yeah
made over 100k last year
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Obviously you don't have a degree.
100 k is a sales position is a 30 hour gig …. fool
"VRI Guy said...
This is great news! I will do whatever they ask for my VRI!
VRI is here to stay!
11/26/2013 08:30:00 AM
Spoken like a true prostitute.
11/26/2013 09:01:00 PM"
Everybody is a prostitute, some just cheaper than others.
wow, you must be proud of yourself. I wonder what would happen to a guy who worked at a business who was proud of that... oh yeah, he would have been fired. You were lazy, and we are glad your gone. Im glad that your happy and proud to be a lazy dog. Glad you really set the bar high and went out on top. thank you for retiring, our dept is much, much better without you. now go stare at the wall and wait for the big one to hit...
Get sued or screwed over a couple of times and see how you feel about things. They don't care if you bust your ass and come in with all kinds of numbers. They'll screw you over at some point. No one cares about anything. Handle your calls, give em a report if needed, back up your coworkers, and lock up the people that just need to go, but don't knock yourself out because no one cares.
All this is all well and good but the department never said they are increasing how many days a p.o. Can work. It's still only 4 days max.
Anonymous said...
35 years on the job , 60 years old and work vri every chance I get , easy money
rahmmie my boy , raise that mandatory age to 65 , I will stay , work all that ot I can
no need to hire , hair gels afraid to write a ticket or toss a car , oh yeah
made over 100k last year
11/26/2013 02:16:00 PM
you may want to consider getting yourself a life. 65 is getting closer to the end than you thing... 15 years after 65 is 80.. not too much can be done for you anymore at 80 years old... think about it.. life is short. leave the job and enjoy life. this job is not life. do yourself and family a favor. money isnt worth it
11/26/2013 09:28:00 PM
A officer who has 35 years on and is still dependent on overtime has no life. Without this job, that officer will have a problem living at home. I assume his family all have their own lives without their father. Such a sad life. Yes, VRI is easy but at some point you need to get a life after retirement. At least his family has the money to be comfortable while he sits in a patrol car on the south side.
Little Bird tweeted....
"Community Involvement" is going to be a new metric for VRI in 2014.
The Police Athletic League is going to be started up, first in Ogden Park, then elsewhere.
Coaching/mentoring/supporting this initiative will be considered when asking to work VRI.
My 2 cents:
1. VRI is great for us in that we have an opportunity to make easy money at a job that does not require any "real" police work (that is taking bad guys off the street).
2. VRI is bad because after we worked to get a more balanced work schedule in the 4/2 we are screwing our time off with more work days. A little hypocrisy there.
3. VRI is also bad because it puts cops in only certain districts while others are still woefully short staffed and over worked because of manpower issues.
4. VRI does NOTHING for our pension and that should be every cop's concern right now.
5. If we stopped working VRI, the department would just start mandatorily canceling days off. Remember when the tact teams worked Operation Safe City a few years ago on their weekends off?
6. Finally, VRI separates us as a cohesive force - that is sticking together on important issues - because it is both good and bad and therefor the final decision about working or not working VRI is a difficult one to digest.
Thanks for your time.
Anonymous said...
35 years on the job , 60 years old and work vri every chance I get , easy money rahmmie my boy , raise that mandatory age to 65 , I will stay , work all that ot I can no need to hire , hair gels afraid to write a ticket or toss a car , oh yeah
made over 100k last year
11/26/2013 02:16:00 PM
As you wish. I think it is a sin to die with a huge load of money in the bank. There was a guy who worked all the OT he could, all the SE, saved everything. He drove a 10 year old shit car with 4 tires that were all mismatched. I saw him in the parking lot at 019 changing a flat time on his shit tires. 62 years old and he wouldn't even spend money on good tires or AAA. He's sweating and huffing and puffing to change out a shit tire for a used spare.
Then he went off to a side job. Who the hell needs that kind of life? Many people know the guy, Tom D. Had loads of money but would not spend a cent on necessary stuff.
Keep your priorities in order.
Anonymous said...
Every man for himself. Rahm wins.
11/26/2013 05:06:00 PM
I win, too.
VRI Guy
Anonymous said...
What the City is doing, by pimping us out for overtime, is opening the floodgates for multimillion dollar legal settlements.
All an attorney will have to do is pull up your documented VRI and other overtime to 'prove' how your judgement was impaired due to overwork and exhaustion. Let the lawsuits fly. Penny wise, pound foolish, as is always the case with the City of Chicago.
11/26/2013 12:20:00 AM
Whatever. It ain't my fucking money.
VRI is my money.
VRI Guy
35 years on the job , 60 years old and work vri every chance I get , easy money
rahmmie my boy , raise that mandatory age to 65 , I will stay , work all that ot I can
no need to hire , hair gels afraid to write a ticket or toss a car , oh yeah
made over 100k last year
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Obviously you don't have a degree.
100 k is a sales position is a 30 hour gig …. fool
Obviously you overestimated the current value of a degree when it comes to finding a job. Not to mention a $100,000 for 30 hrs. If the degree makes the difference why in the world would a college graduate come on the CPD at $43,000 for having to work midnights, weekends, holidays when he can just walk into a $100,000 a year job for 30 hrs.
Article says 40% of recent graduates are unemployed.
I would think with the information you are bringing up, anyone presently on the job with a degree would quit and take one of those $100,000 a year job and work less hours
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/college-grads-disillusioned-unemployed-poll-article-1.1331346
A officer who has 35 years on and is still dependent on overtime has no life. Without this job, that officer will have a problem living at home. I assume his family all have their own lives without their father. Such a sad life. Yes, VRI is easy but at some point you need to get a life after retirement. At least his family has the money to be comfortable while he sits in a patrol car on the south side.
Dont think he ever said he was dependant on OT Maybe he just works it and puts it all in deferred which will make his retirement alot more comfortable.
Why would you assume his family have their own lives without their father? Because he works VRI one day a week? Probably half of the CPD works a part timer one one if not both their days off.
If you dont like VRI dont work it, but you act like its ruining this guys life. Its not sad, but it none of your business if he wants to work VRI
To 11:10 am I think your a idiot for working VRI, but I agree it's none of my business my problem is when the majority of lazy coppers who blow off jobs or lay down on jobs all day, because they're tired from working all this overtime. If you can handle god bless but most guys can't and I have to pick up the slack and I have more than enough time to get days in any district so don't think Im complaining cause I don't have the senority. One other thing if you can't figure out a way to live comfortably on our salary then you probably will just squander all the extra money your making.
11/26/2013 09:04:00 PM
At least you agree its none of your business. That said where did you get the idea that "all this overtime" what one day a week if you are lucky. You make it sound like they work 12 hours a day,7 days a week One extra shift a week is "all that overtime" Cry me a river crybaby
Every homicide det works more than that and the average working young westside copper with his arrests and court does more work than that.
"All that overtime" sitting in a squad 1 day extra a week, I'm surprised the VRI guys can survive with all that extra work. Stress heart attacks suicide there must be an epidemic from all that work
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