Fleecing the Membership
Our oldest blogging friend Rue St. Michel has a largish post up about the problems the FOP is going through. He lays the blame squarely at the feet of the current regime and cites examples throughout:
- We FOP Lodge 7 members can agree on one thing: Mike Shields sucks.
He makes over $200,000 per year. For some perspective, in 2010 we contributed $1.6 million in dues to the FOP and what did we get for our dues money?
Utter incompetence, malfeasance, skullduggery and a president with the leadership skills of a toddler.
The entire article is an easy read with links to back up his opinions. We can't say we disagree with any of it. Hop on over and give him a read and start thinking about who we need to lead the FOP in the near future.
Labels: FOP
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
136 Comments:
The leading is not the only issue with the FOP, is DUMPING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM AND MAKING SURE NO ONE FROM THIS TERM MAKES IT BACK AT ALL. How do you have committees in the FOP that are supposed to make decisions on police officer's careers and they have no clue on the particular issue? Officers that have survived the waves of the city should be there, not taken care of cry babies too good for nothing. Like Shields said this was a step un stone to becoming a senator, this was not his big dream. So, he can go back to patrol while his dream comes true and do some reports on his way out, as he goes back to patrol and is exposed to CRs like the rest of us.
Fuck the citywide team, they are part of the problem.....
Bill and Rich didn't seem to be all that pissed off when they were complicit with Mike as a matter of fact I was told Rich said it was semantics on words regarding 28.1 it was lawyer double talk and Bill agreed, if they tell anyone otherwise they are fucking LIARS!!!!!!!
There is more to come on this issue
And yes man like the 009th district unit rep still endorse mikey and speak of personal issues of all the opposing candidates to the watches,why because mikey owns him and jakstavage is afraid he will lose
agreed. Mikey needs to pass this sgts test because its back to a beat car for that joke in a few months. I dont care if its contract time or not. a joke. I voted for bella and am glad im not responsible for this assclown.
You want to talk about fleecing the membership make sure you know that the field reps all make Captain pay and the President is making Chief pay or $178,000 a year.
I have absolutely no confidence in the FOP........
Is this true or not.
Somewhere I heard that Shields has an interest in a security firm with a large city contract.
Wouldn't that be a conflict of interest?
Is that why he does not publish a manpower audit of Department personnel to show how we have come down since Rahm took over the Daley Crime Family top spot.
Decertify FLOP dues nothing but take our dues
Guys your all wrong. Dan Shields knows all the dirt. What a wise and smart guy and his brother is leading us in the right direction.
I am joking
Prediction:
The percentage of active FOP members that will actually return their ballot will be less than the percentage number needed to move on to the second half of the sergeant test.
Like anyone else running in the upcoming election and/or supporting friends or coworkers that are running, Rue St. Michel has an agenda. Blogger Rue makes some valid points, but fails to report without prejudice. Loyalty blinds regardless of age, wisdom, or time of the job.
I completely understand the games played when campaign season gets underway; hell, this promises to be the dirtiest FOP election campaign in who knows how long. However, there's always at least two sides to every story, and this soap opera promises many more than that.
Anyone that thinks the problems with our union started when Shields got elected needs their fucking head examined. Expect revelations like you couldn't imagine if things get really ugly and certain people feel like they have to go "all in". There's a ton of skeletons in FOPs closet, and the vast majority are owned by the remnants of the Donahue & Co. regime.
I think It's great. Great letter Tracey. unfortunately.. No matter who you get to negotiate or do whatever, they will be bought and paid for just like every other person has since the Dineen days. Slam me call me a dog or salty or whatever you want.
I don't need the power of FOP. I need the power of my 8300 fellow officers. Oh wait. I mean 13500 officers If we all stood as one... we could teach city hall a lesson. But we don't stick together. So I don't even bother voting. I don't care who you vote in. They get gotten to the typical Chicago way!
Dear Mike,
I helped you get elected last time. You better believe I will see to it that my mistake will be corrected.
Oh yeah- fuck you.
200k per year? If FOP were a corporation, a business in corporate America, and the membership we're share holders, Sheilds dumb ass would be fired.
Our first mistake is that salary he makes. At most, that's a 120k a year job. A big W T F?
KMA
Just A Citizen says" Happy Holidays to every single PO out there. You all deserve awards. My comments are this: What the eff is going on in this world? We got that "affluenza" kid in Texas who gets probabtion for killing 4 people (judge must have gotten paid off), and then we have the Arlington Heights PO who is still in critical condition after being shot at by wanna-be OJ Simpson who was then put down like the rabid animal he was. Why is this shit being tolerated on any level? Anyone who attacks, spits on, shoots, jumps, or harms a PO in any way needs to be shot on sight. Period. And anyone who gets a DUI, needs to have their license taken away FOREVER and if anyone kills anyone during one of their hilarious drunk driving hijinks, they need to be killed. PERIOD. No trial. This stuff makes me sick. How you people deal with this shit day after day and year after year and then have to deal with the higher ups screwing around with you and then have to deal with a POTUS who is such a hater of everything this country was founded on, it's a wonder you all show up to work everyday. I, for one, support you, honor you, respect you and am in awe of all of you. Be safe out there to all of you and God bless.
I think we need to put the arguments for and against each of the candidates side by side. I think that Dougherty has as much baggage as Mike, if not more and responsible for a lot of our problems. I do not want to fall for anyone's, including Bill Dougherty's propaganda.
This was the Shields agenda from the befinning.
This group went and bought each of themselves cashmere sweaters with the FOP7 logo embroidered. Why?
Mike Needed to replace the office furniture - Why?
Mike needed to buy a new vehicle - Why?
And I am pretty sure they spent unnecessarily on lunches, dinners, etc etc etc.
Skullduggery. I like it. Gonna use that one on the street
Vote every current Board member out. No one even tried to stop Mike. Certainly not Dougherty he has to go and take Geiger with him.
People voted Dougherty, Aguilar, Dimaria and Davis in to check Mike Shields, Gorman and DelRivero. The Citywide team did absolutely nothing while the FOP crashed and burned. We are not blind they let it happen for political purposes. They are so outraged now the are running against Shields. Throw them all out! Please once and for all dump the Citywide team.
WTF did you expect...its Chicago.
A couple of " facts " in this thread are incorrect. The FOP, takes in over five million per year, and Shields salary, while too high, is not over two hundred thousand, per year. All of those upstairs guys, are overpaid, and need to have their salaries reduced.
Hey, you guys wanted and voted for Shields. The fault is your own. Just like all the fools who voted Obama into office.
How about Karen Lewis. At least her BALLS are bigger than Sheilds.
I think it would be advisable for Shields to put in a bid for one of the many district spots that are now open. At least when he loses the next election he can go to a district of his choosing. Wait, he may not have enough time on to get a decent bid.
Last month the Dougherty team tried to stage a Night of a Thousand Knifes with their flash mob. It was an embarrassment.
This month it’s going to be an Occupy Wall street demonstration with the leftovers from Acorn. Anyone else find it extremely self serving that the originator of the to/from wants to be appointed a position w/o running for it? These people are even a bigger embarrassment.
So Bill Dougherty went from the leading candidate to an also ran in a matter of weeks and now he supports a coup to get back in office? Bill Are you going to sleep in the doorway to keep people from getting into the union hall? Do you want to get fleas and hair nats?
The election is in just a few weeks so what is the urgency?
Because Donahue/Dougherty/Bella/Capparelli are going to be exposed as Benedick Arnold/Judas/Bernie Madoff/Tony Soprano.
The one thing a lawyer has that he can always make money with is his law license. A joke here last week stated that lawyers have replaced lab rats because there are some things that even lab rats won’t do. So when the rats and lawyers jump off your ship your fucked.
Give it a couple of weeks. Things many not be what they seem.
Typical cheap shot by someone who could never get elected.
If Shields was a roast he'd be extremely overdone.
He's toast. Question is where do we go from here?
Chicago=Corruption
Corruption=Chicago
United We Stand. DIVIDED WE FALL.
Who benefits from our discontent?
Lose one year of retro?? I can make that back with a some creative overtime? The late arrest, extended tour, few extra court dates? We have jobs. Be mad at Shields for sure. Vote him out. Vote him someone else with competence.
One poster here said he needed the power of his 8300 fellow officers, but was so upset he doesn't even vote now. THAT IS THE PROBLEM HERE. People complain but then won't vote because they've given up hope?! That's retarded and Un-American. VOTE VOTE VOTE. High numbers of voters speaks to the power of the union. When only 20 percent of people vote, it tells Rahm that no one cares and no one will do anything about it. It gives Rahm the upper hand in negotiations. It gives Rahm the power to say, No letter, no retro the first year.
If we unite and say, okay, keep the retro the first year we don't care. Then stand up and fight together for a higher raise, we might have something.
Without a united union, we will be a broken, weak union, easy prey.
As the old saying goes. " Cut our loses and move on." Bye Mike and welcome to 019 midnights. Thats your unit of assignment and that's
where you are going. P.O.'s with a lot more time were just dumped to midnights in 019. Welcome to the patrol division.
Interesting read. Would it be grounds to notify the National Lodge to conduct an audit and perhaps a temporary takeover?
Why don't we let anonymous bloggers choose our union leaders?
Well said IFIYGD. While just rumors, some would have members of the "old regime" indicted. You don't think the treasurer is so low key and out of the building for no reason do you? Little Mikey is going to drop some big bombs before he exits. The old guys are scared and that's why they worked together and set Mikey up to fail. You think you don't like our union now??? Just wait and see what comes up after true election. Team Shields wanted reform and transparency like they promised, the Donahue Crew would not allow that to happen.
I say elect the drinker. Who cares if he and his lawyer were involved in the racial beat down that sparked a hate crime investigation that wound up closing Mike's on Webster. Who cares if he peed all over a little fat sleeping cop and tried to hop in bed with him. Who cares if he shit all over a bathroom floor and played with it like a crazed monkey. He's got my vote.
Tim to just say NO to paying 2014 Membership Dues, especially for Retirees, who get NOTHING in return. End the FOP Scam NOW.
Did Mike Shields pledge not to take the hide off that sulphur smelling little maniac Rahm?
What did Rahm promise Mike in return for walking the membership to a stand-still?
Did Mike promise not to hurt Rahm where he is most vulnerable? Exposure to the wrath of Chicago's tax-payers who KNOW they have a vested interest in the state of affairs regarding CPD and their RIGHT in expecting a robust Police Department for the amount of money they pay?
We post almost non-stop about how Rahm has robbed tax-paying areas of proper Police coverage.
Was Mike Shields a hollow shit-ass installed by the same people who afflicted this nation with a hollow shit-ass of a so called community activist because they were terrified he would run for mayor and actually win?
Mike Shields is proving to be all sizzle and no steak regarding advancing the cause of the lowly Patrolman.
Was it always the plan to appear to be doing juuuust enough while actually running interference for Rahm al Ghoul to destroy the very notion of The Policeman and Policing in Chicago?
Did he promise his hedge fund/"zombie money" buddies that he would break the union, bust Policemen out of their pensions and give our pension money over to the hedge fund money conjurers to "manage" for their obscene profit?
"Other People's Money..."
By ANY means necessary?
"They're just a bunch of Cops."
Fucking sad... The Policeman has been intentionally busted down to equal footing with the mutts and the violent criminal death cultists he's supposed to keep at bay so that the upright citizenry of this city have a fighting chance.
Policemen busted down to equal footing with the mutts and the violent criminal death cultists setting this city on fire = Indentured Servitude.
As an aside... Anybody who believes the media spin orchestrated by city hall about "crime is down" is a FOOL!
Crime isn't down... They've just "revised" what crime really is in Chicago with the help of Comp-Stat and a compliant, reeking and leaking anal whore media.
Redefining the terms/warping reality means you can set and dictate the agenda to suit your own purposes.
Now... Back to Shields...
Michael... You've exposed the membership to grevious and irreparable harm.
WHATEVER those things are which you have been promised in return for betraying the membership will come to light.
It is painfully apparent, that as a son of a POLICEMAN, you have failed whether by cynicism, incompetence or flat out stupidity, to protect those in your charge.
Of course, this charge of failure can be leveled at prior administrations of FOP with prejudice and both barrels...
Over the years, there have been too many games played when it comes to representing the best interests of Policemen by our fraternal organization.
With the benefit of hindsight and from where we stand, NOBODY is reasonably pure and EVERYBOBY had their own agenda that they put over the needs of the membership.
Yes... SOME things were done which benefitted the membership but even Ray Charles, though he be both blind and dead, can see that we've overall been walked backwards.
WARNING: As we see it, whatever justice Policemen hope and desire to have for themselves and their families in this town, will be the justice they forcibly take since so many outside forces are arrayed so firmly against them.
The Policeman has been diminished in stature to the point of nigh near irrelevancy so it is way past time to go hands on and fight back... So to speak.
The joyful haters are gonna hate because the notion of Policemen getting off their knees, fighting back and setting a proper course of correction (With the help of the upright citizen. We can't do it without you and our interests ARE mutual regardless of what a shit-ass like Rahm says.) seems to freak them out.
"You Cops got rules! You're not supposed to fight back!"
"Fighting Back" can take on many forms... We just need some people out in front who understand that.
RANT: (OFF)/on
To Just A Citizen, You are the reason we do this! For the good people, our Family, and each other....God Bless You, and God Bless the men and women of CPD.
At least shields has enough time to work out all the time at west loop athletic club. Maybe he should worry about getting his mind in shape.
Mike Shield and Company has to go!!!
wait until we get big retro checks
mickey will be reelected
last fop leadership turned down a 16% pay raise , we got 10 %
that's why shields was elected
last fop leadership also gave shortshanks 23,000,000
that would have paid a lot of 3% cola for us retirees that were born after jan 1,1955
29 and a day ain't nothing if pension fund is broke
Any truth to the rumor that Bill Dougherty is filling out his ticket with Mark Donahue and retired Sgt. Michael Vought? Whoopi Goldberg and Tracy Quarles from the 3rd District? Sounds like an all-star team to me.
OT:
How many people showed up to take the police test yesterday?
Mikey doesn't have a conflict of interest with his security company. Mikey is just like Madigan, Bobby Rush. You know the Chicago way.
Someone should ask the 009th District Unit Rep how long he has worked for Mike and how much money he makes working for Mike. I'll bet that is an issue he won't want to discuss.
Why doesn't Stavage talk about the real issues? Mikes incompetence. He should stop rapping Dougherty, some of us rememberBill when he worked here.
I don't need the power of FOP. I need the power of my 8300 fellow officers. Oh wait. I mean 13500 officers If we all stood as one... we could teach city hall a lesson. But we don't stick together. So I don't even bother voting. I don't care who you vote in. They get gotten to the typical Chicago way!
12/15/2013 03:31:00 AM
A truly brilliant piece of stupidity provided for our edification.
"I don't need a bargaining representative, I've got the "power" of 8299 other cops backing me up."
Truly a fucktarded statement if I've ever heard one..... tell you what then genius, you go tell Emanuel you wanna work for him for whatever he wants to pay you, have him give you whatever insurance he deems fit for you, tell him you don't need sick time and tell him you trust him to do right by your pension and whatever he thinks goes.
You're a complete fucking tool and do deserve to be left on your own, because thinking 8200 other cops have the first fucking thing to do with your contract shows you don't have a fucking brain in your head.
Teach the city a lesson... my GOD how naive you are to think you or any fucking amount of us have any fucking control over our fate other than what we can obtain contractually protected by law.
Go back to Walmart dipshit because an ignorance level as high as yours is truly dangerous to the rest of us out here.
Is this true or not.
Somewhere I heard that Shields has an interest in a security firm with a large city contract.
Wouldn't that be a conflict of interest?
Is that why he does not publish a manpower audit of Department personnel to show how we have come down since Rahm took over the Daley Crime Family top spot.
12/15/2013 01:46:00 AM
Yeah, it was in the papers a while back. Google it.
Capparelli is the Treasurer
Ask him where's the Money
If after making that kind of money you are not doing the job that satisfies the membership,you should be like a one hit wonder....gone!
Mike Shields also gets $6,000 a month to run security for General Iron scrapyard. Oh yeah, the owners of General Iron are friends with Rahm Emanuel.
He points the finger at Rahm just enough to make himself seem like he genuinely cares but he doesn't bark too loud or make Rahm look too bad. After all he doesn't want to lose his bread and butter gig.
106am,,,,no beat car for Mikey, historically the past president is taken care with a sweet spot in a unit, like #192
Mikey is very immature, that is 90% of his problem. He actually challenges officers to fist fights if they choose to criticize him
The President is incompetent. One who sits on the board is on disability and is he employed while on disability? Their lobbyist let the city underfund the pension for about 20 million when he was in charge.
And wait for the legislature to deal with pension " reforms".
The whole FOP is a joke.
Sir/ Madam at 12/15/2013 06:59:00 AM Thank you for your comment and support. Needless to say, we support, honor and respect you also. Sincere wishes for a Merry Christmas and a Happy Holiday season.
Cooter can do a better job than Shields, let him run shit...
Yep great choices for or this election. A fake disabled guy, a guy who screwed me out of 6% raise in the last contract and 4 or 5% in the one before that, a kid who forgot, and a guy who has a disgusting habit.
Apathy is our biggest enemy. In the last election only 33% of active members voted. A greater percentage of the 8,000 retirees voted and they put a large number of retirees in office. This isn't good because the retirees have different priorities than the active guys and gals.
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What priorities are you talking about. Every retiree wants you to get the biggest raise possible. The more you make the more money goes into the pension fund. The CityWide team fucked all of us out 6.1% in the last contract.
Oh yea "Peace, Love and Happiness", that's who I am putting my money on.
And let's just make sure that we put officer Peace Love and happiness (aka. Tracey Quarles #16077) on that Board as a "Special Advisor", yea thats just what this Union needs. Officer Peace , Love and Happiness is a bonified nut case. She and her followers would bring us to our knees in front of Rahm. Officer's please use your Heads when you vote in this election. This is the dirtiest FOP election I have ever seen in 26 years on the job. Dont believe the Bullshit being spread by the various presidential candidates , look at the facts and make an intelligent choice.
to: 12/15/2013 06:59:00 AM, THANK YOU Sir/Madam, A very refreshing accolade and I concur with your punishment methods….However unrealistic they are!! Perhaps send a letter acknowledging any P.O.s that WORK for your ideals.
Vote every current Board member out. No one even tried to stop Mike. Certainly not Dougherty he has to go and take Geiger with him.
12/15/2013 08:15:00 AM
I totally agree! Bring back the guy that did only one arbitration in a whole entire year!! And his buddy that was double dipping with him!!!!! You remember that BS scheme that Geiger put a stop to. Yeah, fuck Geiger! I reserve the right to be ripped off and enjoy it.
Shields hired Camden as FOP spokesman. FOP never had a spokesman. Camden's salary is just as much as Shields.
Coppers are no different than any other Asshole naive citizen. The real working coppers don't generally have the means to be elected FOP president. It takes a lot of money to do all that printing of signs and book covers and magnets and all of the other bullshit these guys do. These guys usually have someone behind them and if u don't believe that you're naive. They're all political hacks but when a regular guy that might very well be the smartest and best choice we don't even recognize him as a legit candidate because everyone says "who's this guy? I never heard of him". Think of a regular political election it's always 2 or 3 names max that have a legit shot. Why? Money and name recognition. The ability to spend and get their message out. Coppers don't have the sense or interest to do their homework and research these guys
Why don't we let anonymous bloggers choose our union leaders?
You think Shaved, Rue and SCC could do any worse?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I think we need to put the arguments for and against each of the candidates side by side. I think that Dougherty has as much baggage as Mike, if not more and responsible for a lot of our problems. I do not want to fall for anyone's, including Bill Dougherty's propaganda.
Anonymous said...
Last month the Dougherty team tried to stage a Night of a Thousand Knifes with their flash mob. It was an embarrassment.
In the first statement you have to be totally nuts and have your head buried so far up Mikes ass that you cannot see any daylight, wake up fool.
In the second statement apparently you are not versed on proper motions and Roberts Rules of Order, and surely Mikey is not aware of them either. If you are calling this a flash mob then that is your choice. However a motion was made for the good of the order and again Mikey was thinking of himself and self preservation. The so called flash mob consisted of many and to be able to put that number of people together so quickly is crazy. The membership is so fed up with Mikey that you 10 or 15 who stood up on the other side should have been embarrassing enough for you. Unfortunately it is to bad and to late for the Mikey board members to realize that they should have used their own heads and not been The membership will speak in a couple of months, but you can take it to the bank Mikey you are gone and his minions to follow.
I applaud the officer in the 003rd District for her efforts in shedding Mike Shields from our organization however we need to sit tight and bid our time. Keeping in mind negotiations although he has done more damage hopefully the charges being brought and perhaps other lawsuits against him should keep Sgt. Mike busy. He will be taking part 2 soon and Rahm will take care of you for being a loyal servant.
Fleecing
Officers
Perpetually
Mikey challenges guys to fist fights? I doubt that dork can handle himself.
Don't forget that marky mark and the funky bunch along with adviser billy Nolan let the city off the hook, the city paid for the fop hierarchy and in their wisdom let us the membership pay the highly inflated salaries and huge expense accounts!
$6K a month to run a side security gig? At the salary we pay him, he should be much too busy for any side jobs.
Mikey needs a plain, old fashioned ass kicking
200kper fucking year to run this union into the ground.
Must be nice.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Mikey is very immature, that is 90% of his problem. He actually challenges officers to fist fights if they choose to criticize him
12/15/2013 03:18:00 PM
Sorry but Bill Dougherty admitted in front of the membership it was he who challenged Mike twice. Bill is like a drunken hockey player who took too many shots to the head. Harold Brown should have taken him out side. But he's a coward too.
But I have a serious question for Bill. You know a shit storm is going to land on you (no you do not have to share a room with McDonagh) in a couple of weeks. Did you think to let the rest of your ticket know about so they don't get blindsided?
A FORMER CityWide Team member.
And one more thing remember Aguliar has already put in his retirement papers but the unit he was assigned to will be what he puts on the ballot.
Also DiMaria let it slip that he is going to retire as soon as he is sworn in after the election and the resign from the FOP office. So if Dougherty by some miracle gets in he will be able to appoint Sgt. Schultz's replacement. So a vote for him is a blind vote. Donahue?
OT:
How many people showed up to take the police test yesterday?
12/15/2013 01:43:00 PM
I'm not sure exactly how many people were there, but I did see Mahoney, Hightower, Tackleberry and Hooks so we'll be in great shape once they hit the streets.
Question: Should I vote for the pee-er or the pee-on? If you know what I'm saying....
Every single board member passed along the lie that Shields told us regarding the letter. The reason we passed along the lie is because Mike Shields was the only one that knew it was a lie and we thought we were passing along the truth. No one ever dreamed that the President of our lodge would spread such a lie that could possibly be so harmful to the membership. Well time has a way of revealing the truth and now we will all suffer because of his incompetence. It should be noted that he still has some loyal followers on the board who have joined themselves at the hip with Shields so when they hit the water they will sink much faster.
At least shields has enough time to work out all the time at west loop athletic club. Maybe he should worry about getting his mind in shape.
12/15/2013 11:52:00 AM
He has lost some weight! All those free steak dinners must be drying up. He should be on the Biggest Loser for resins other than the weight loss. He might have hrs the lap-band.
Will FOP give Mike his Lincoln MKZ with the vanity plate FOP 7 as a parting gift for his service to the men and women of the CPD? The alabaster leather package is a $3200.00 option- must be nice to ride in luxury.
Big budget hearing tomorrow at 1400 hours tomorrow. I hope they get rid of the fishing tournament and the Gaelic Park picnic.
12/15/2013 03:31:00 AM
I wonder is this Greg Or Mike. The FOP has thrown us scraps for the twenty years Ive been on the job. You can call me whatever name you want. But if 6000 of us would just stand together... We could get the mayors ear. I have never seen you FOP guys really get into it with the city. All this bargain in good faith crap. If I had anything to say about it. There would be no numbers. No VRI. No Special. Answer your calls and that's it. I don't need a bunch of Mayoral Cronies selling me out. Ive never needed FOP. I never will. I called once and that was enough. You and all your speaker phones can rot in hell. IN fact now I will vote. I will vote for the person who hasn't a snowballs chance in hell this way My Vote wont elect another sellout. You and your Walmart, Mommies basement typical cop crap talk. The whole bunch of you aren't worth a Damn. You are all fighting like a bunch of High School Girls. Karma is waiting for you. At least My soul, my conscience and my balls are my own.
"I don't need a bargaining representative, I've got the "power" of 8299 other cops backing me up."
Tell me Einstein. What's fop done in the last 15 years?
because thinking 8200 other cops have the first fucking thing to do with your contract shows you don't have a fucking brain in your head
How much worse can we do on or own than FOP has with the last several contracts?? Because you guys over at FOP who use the word fucktard can do so much better right?
Teach the city a lesson... my GOD how naive you are to think you or any fucking amount of us have any fucking control over our fate other than what we can obtain contractually protected by law.
We have all the control.... But when FOP keeps yelling out of order and scaring new coppers with cherries for balls, well then you have bunch of people who get what they deserve. A citywide tap in the ass. We could put so much pressure on city hall but that would mean no cushy county jobs for you sellouts right?
Go back to Walmart dipshit because an ignorance level as high as yours is truly dangerous to the rest of us out here.
Well maybe in your eyes but at least I haven't sold my soul and fucked thousands of Police Officers? I struck a nerve. Wait ad see what else is coming...
I wouldn't be surprised if Shields has a very cushy, new, non-police career lined up for himself when he's done at the FOP.
Officer Peace , Love and Happiness is a bonified nut case.
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This is a joke right?
Meritorious Sgt. material? So the CityWide team has now been renamed the Peace, Love, and Happiness Ticket?
One goof wants to turn the gift store into a Starbucks. I can see this nut case wanting to turn it into a herbal team and incense store.
Thank God I'm retiring
Is Shields related to the Greylord Judge Shields who went to Club Fed?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Shields hired Camden as FOP spokesman. FOP never had a spokesman. Camden's salary is just as much as Shields.
12/15/2013 04:58:00 PM
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Again another nitwit. He has no salary. He is paid by the hour. If he goes weeks without being called out he makes nothing.
When is the election so we can get rid of these clown?
Cortes and crew leading in straw polls at 6 different parties over the weekend.
Shields did magic with that pension board stunt that all the hair gels bought into.
Then you voted this slug in and threw Bella out like a stray dog. Bella was always for the members and you have to live with Mikey did.
The kid scammed the majority voters and he is sitting pretty with the monies he made.
If he is gone next election, he could care less.
Rahm thanks you for bringing Mikey as the prez of fop.
Rahm is no ones fool !!
I propose a freeze to union dues meaning no increase. We pay a lot of money. If they raise it any more I'm going to have to become fair share.
get rid of FOP cars. Buy two Maxi vans and have them painted with big FOP logos on all four sides. They stay at the hall to transport coppers to Springfield and stuff like that. Stop funding Dougherty's police hockey team and softball team. Same thing with the football. No more giving the store away to every f-ing group that comes in for a hand out. Fishing derby gone. maybe it's time for the picnic to go too. No need for DiMaria then.
Recording secretary? Get a court reporter. Good bye Sid. Thanks for sticking up for the vet.
Donahue time to get lost. Make McDonagh re-inverse the lodge for what he did to the hotel room at the last convention.
Every time Rahm take a shovel to a construction site to spend more money use those vans and take 20 retirees in walkers out there with signs he's spending my pension money!
Fuck the Peace, Love Happiness bullshit and get in Rahms face. Same time for governor dork.
Honest to Christ, you guys could have Father Brandt in there as FOP President and in a few months, likely less, you all would be mother fucking him and accusing him of shit. There are still idiots complaining about the 16% contract offer vs. the 10% arbitrator's award. Don't any of you remember the full extent of that offer? Daley offered 16% contingent on acceptance of the whole contract, which sucked. Even then most people I spoke to said the City could shove their 16%. True.
They forget the 4-2 work schedule or the 55 and out w/free health care. Neither of which we would have gotten under the offer which included the 16%. Still you complain like whining little school girls. "Aww, my 16%, fuck them, fuck everyone, fuck fop, cry cry"
Yes, you would find a reason to curse Father Brandt, there is no one on this department who would satisfy you people.
It has only gotten worse over the years, Nolan, Dineen, Donahue, Shields, you people elected them and then cursed them all. You deserve whatever fucking you get.
I was going to make a run at trustee but I see that is a thankless proposition. If I got in it wouldn't be long before I was accused of all sorts of crimes against nature.
Jody Weiss was dead on correct when he said of the blue shirts, "If I gave them each a gold bar, they would complain how heavy it was."
Shields and his crew, his 15 or 16 loyal supporters on the board who voted for him to pick his own committee to hear charges against him and then found him not guilty of sending the letter in late all need to go. Hope they all spend a lot of money on this election.
Anonymous said...
wait until we get big retro checks
mickey will be reelected
last fop leadership turned down a 16% pay raise , we got 10 %
that's why shields was elected
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You sound like the dip-shit media . .
The City ALSO wanted us to take a number of unpaid furlough days that would erase that "great" 16% raise.
Do your homework next time kid.
Anonymous said...
I say elect the drinker. Who cares if he and his lawyer were involved in the racial beat down that sparked a hate crime investigation that wound up closing Mike's on Webster. Who cares if he peed all over a little fat sleeping cop and tried to hop in bed with him. Who cares if he shit all over a bathroom floor and played with it like a crazed monkey. He's got my vote. Listen dude, I don't understand half the shit your saying. Apparently you think your in on some big inside joke. But you lost all credibility when you brought Mikes Cop Bar. The 2 guys involved in that couldn't be running for FOP pres, as they are both Sgts.
Vote every current Board member out. No one even tried to stop Mike. Certainly not Dougherty he has to go and take Geiger with him.
Cappareli Tooo he's a snake says he isn't a Shields guy Ha he is the treasurer Right there in Mike's pocket
Don't Vote for Cappareli
Capparelli is the Treasurer
Ask him where's the Money
What does he do anyway? Sign a blank check HE's Balcer's guy
Love Happiness bullshit and get in Rahms face. Same time for governor dork
FOP guys don't get that cushy county job acting like that!
Then you voted this slug in and threw Bella out like a stray dog. Bella was always for the members and you have to live with Mikey did.
No he wasn't and I can prove it.
Will FOP give Mike his Lincoln MKZ with the vanity plate FOP 7 as a parting gift for his service to the men and women of the CPD
The Car maybe.. The plate already belongs to brother sellout Nolan.
Anonymous said...
Shields hired Camden as FOP spokesman. FOP never had a spokesman. Camden's salary is just as much as Shields.
12/15/2013 04:58:00 PM
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This was the Best move Shield's ever made.
Camden is a genius.
As for his salary, it is far below that of Mike Shileds and worth every penny!
Anonymous said...
get rid of FOP cars. Buy two Maxi vans and have them painted with big FOP logos on all four sides. They stay at the hall to transport coppers to Springfield and stuff like that. Stop funding Dougherty's police hockey team and softball team. Same thing with the football. No more giving the store away to every f-ing group that comes in for a hand out. Fishing derby gone. maybe it's time for the picnic to go too. No need for DiMaria then.
Recording secretary? Get a court reporter. Good bye Sid. Thanks for sticking up for the vet.
Donahue time to get lost. Make McDonagh re-inverse the lodge for what he did to the hotel room at the last convention.
Every time Rahm take a shovel to a construction site to spend more money use those vans and take 20 retirees in walkers out there with signs he's spending my pension money!
Fuck the Peace, Love Happiness bullshit and get in Rahms face. Same time for governor dork.
12/16/2013 12:17:00 AM
I agree 110% was at fop store other day the stench from the hall from all the water was bad! They fop said the main water pipe burst and flooded the hall months ago and still it's not fixed, what's up mike and take our money crew? You cannot even fix little things time for all f you to leave now!
Why in God's name does a president of FOP make over $200K? Seriously? He has no skills and no record. NOBODY in that office should make that much. You should WANT that job to serve your fellow officers, not for the money.
Isn't it enough that he lives like a rock star and thinks he is one? Does he have an expense account? Every single line item on it should be available to the membership.
We are sooooo screwed. Rahm knows he's a dummy and a wimp to boot. God help us all.
Got the FOP newsletter in the mail. Why won't this jagoff just step down??? I can't bear another 3 newsletters with this lying jagoffs face and bullshit reminding me how I fucked up by voting for this jagoff.
These blogs rule us.
I was in City Hall today and accidentally took the elevator to the basement. I saw Rahm, Shields, and Dogherty sitting on the floor around a giant pile of money. They were all laughing.
I ran to the nearest computer to post as fast as my little fingers could type. I did my part, so I'll sleep well tonight.
Watch for Shields to go on 75% duty disability before hitting a beat car, like Dean Angelo did after he lost the FOP election and drew his 75% disability directly from our pension fund for the past 12 years, further depleting our pension fund. Rest assured that Shields will get a full time job just like Dean has while collecting his 75% disability pension on us.
Mikes on Webster! What a place and are you sure both guys involved are now sgts?
There was a lawful motion, that was seconded, at last months General Meeting made by a member in the presence of approximately 200 members. The motion was to return Bill Dougherty to his Field Rep spot in the FOP. A division of the house was called for and the vote was taken where at least 90% were for the motion and less than 10% were against the motion. This was a lawful motion by the members that passed by at least a 90% vote where the members of this lodge told Mike Shields to put Bill Dougherty back in the FOP Office and Mike Shields told the membership "Fuck You this is my union and i run it the way I want no matter what you direct me to do and how lawful it is" That's how I roll.
How about leave our salary the same along with the medical. You do realize that you will be doubling your health care contributions. Next year. Family 79 a paycheck to 160
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Shields hired Camden as FOP spokesman. FOP never had a spokesman. Camden's salary is just as much as Shields.
12/15/2013 04:58:00 PM
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Again another nitwit. He has no salary. He is paid by the hour. If he goes weeks without being called out he makes nothing.
12/15/2013 11:27:00 PM
Pat Camden is the best spokesman the CPD could have.
He'll never embarrass a P.O.
Stand together....Skokie FD local with its 100 or so members refused to sign up for LT promotional exam due to village's refusal to negotiate or follow state statute as it applies to promotional process... 2nd time in 20 years this union stood as one on this issue. Enough is enough.
"Lose one year of retro?? I can make that back with a some creative overtime?"
Really? You are prepared to make up the initial $5000 retro money and the compounded 2% every year going forward? You asshat! It's money out of our pockets for the rest of our careers not just some check at a fixed amount! IDIOT!!!!!
Anonymous said...
Shields did magic with that pension board stunt that all the hair gels bought into.
Then you voted this slug in and threw Bella out like a stray dog. Bella was always for the members and you have to live with Mikey did.
The kid scammed the majority voters and he is sitting pretty with the monies he made.
If he is gone next election, he could care less.
Rahm thanks you for bringing Mikey as the prez of fop.
Rahm is no ones fool !!
12/15/2013 11:46:00 PM
And FOP is still got Bella in court trying to get back 200K. The Donahue guys were all in the city's pocket.
Bring Back BELLA!
Greg , please run again!
Anonymous said...
Shields and his crew, his 15 or 16 loyal supporters on the board who voted for him to pick his own committee to hear charges against him and then found him not guilty of sending the letter in late all need to go. Hope they all spend a lot of money on this election.
12/16/2013 01:01:00 AM
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Shields did not get his whole ticket elected. That means some of the Citywide ticket and Angelo ticket are voting against the hard core leftovers from the Donahue tenure.
Why have at least 7 City-Wide Team members left Billy ticket?
When you know why you will never ever vote for any of them again.
I'm on furlough so I phoned the FOP to ask where each page of the PAR form goes once completed. After being tranfered the person replied "I just received a call for the same thing all you have to do is look on the bottom of the forms it's all there at the bottom" I'm looking at the phone saying WTF? finally I just hung up the phone and drove to the station where the instructions were on the Admin msg. I want a refund of dues.
Lose one year of retro?? I can make that back with a some creative overtime?
You can't make up what's already gone. You'll be giving up your time to make money already due you. Unless you feel that time away from your family is worth it.
Thanks for the thoughtful comments on this thread. The big takeaway from all this isn't how dismal and truly incompetent Team Shields is - it is that we have an opportunity in a few months to get competent people in leadership roles within the FOP.
The Lodge isn't perfect, and we can be pretty brutal with our criticisms, even though that criticism isn't rooted on facts or an understanding of contract law and bargaining in good faith.
This isn't a game of semantics: Shields has proven that all Mikey cares about is Mikey. He will no doubt get some cushy city job (a la Huberman) and land on his feet. It's even more maddening to think that he's up there wheeling and dealing and exposing the lodge, and by extension we members, to his capriciousness. Because of Mike we will lose money via the retro, we will be paying more for medical, and other goodies are going to disappear.
I'll post more on this in a few weeks when some of the candidates come on board. When people come to your roll calls and pitch you on why they'd be the best candidates, ask them tough questions: what are you going to do about our uniform and duty allowances? Will educational reimbursement be around? What about our Medical insurance - ? How can we fight to keep BCBS when it is in our contract that that is our insurance company? Can the city just abrogate that portion without FOP consent?
Keep your eyes open and stay tuned.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Shields hired Camden as FOP spokesman. FOP never had a spokesman. Camden's salary is just as much as Shields.
12/15/2013 04:58:00 PM
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This was the Best move Shield's ever made.
Camden is a genius.
As for his salary, it is far below that of Mike Shileds and worth every penny!
12/16/2013 06:31:00 AM
Camden was a genius move, WHOEVER made it.
He represents us well, gets our side of it out there and says the things you WISH the Department would say in our defense when there's an incident.
Dump the rest of 'em, fine, but keep Camden in his spokesman position, for our sake.
Because of Mike we will lose money via the retro, we will be paying more for medical, and other goodies are going to disappear.
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Please don't refer to the benefits we've earned, bargained for, deserve, and appreciate as "goodies." It sounds juvenile and implies we take our benefits lightly.
Thank you.
I'll post more on this in a few weeks when some of the candidates come on board. When people come to your roll calls and pitch you on why they'd be the best candidates, ask them tough questions: what are you going to do about our uniform and duty allowances? Will educational reimbursement be around? What about our Medical insurance - ? How can we fight to keep BCBS when it is in our contract that that is our insurance company? Can the city just abrogate that portion without FOP consent?
Some questions are good, but BC/BS is not our insurance company, the city is, it is self insured and I imagine can choose whatever company they want to administer the plan.
Uniform allowance I'm sure will have to be renegotiated along with duty availability. It appears there will be give and take and the FOP should send out a questionaire to see what benefits are the most important to and benefit the most members An example about the educational reimbursement. Does it benefit most of the members and is it important enough to say have to give up duty availability and some other benefits. Would you rather lose that and have ALL the members benefit from other benefits we could lose
I'm on furlough so I phoned the FOP to ask where each page of the PAR form goes once completed. After being tranfered the person replied "I just received a call for the same thing all you have to do is look on the bottom of the forms it's all there at the bottom" I'm looking at the phone saying WTF? finally I just hung up the phone and drove to the station where the instructions were on the Admin msg. I want a refund of dues.
Wouldnt it have just been easier to go into the station when you had to pick up the par form and have it signed and mailed and looked at the Admin msg at that point. I didnt check but most pages do give instruction at the bottom
I hope all those mad at Shields for not sending the "letter" will vote in the next election.
If so, it should be a better turnout than the last election.
Take your anger with you to the polls.
Anonymous said...
Shields did magic with that pension board stunt that all the hair gels bought into.
Then you voted this slug in and threw Bella out like a stray dog. Bella was always for the members and you have to live with Mikey did.
The kid scammed the majority voters and he is sitting pretty with the monies he made.
If he is gone next election, he could care less.
Rahm thanks you for bringing Mikey as the prez of fop.
Rahm is no ones fool !!
12/15/2013 11:46:00 PM
Again, the FOP membership is no different than the population at large...they voted for "hope and change" over experience. Sound familiar? And the results are no different.
Rue St Michael your words are inspiring and encouraging and I agree that we need to take a serious look at our potential candidates. It is with great concern that our members need to evaluate their future, by voting for good leaders.
Our members pay very little attention to what is going on. This is not by design but just a total lack of care. This is shown by joining together on work issues showing solidarity and refusing to work all the various extra employments, this would take money out of their pocket and although benefit them down the road they fail to understand this.
We have very few people who want to carry the ball, we have a number of people on this site who enjoy hiding behind the curtain and bad mouthing and the reality is that most are doing it for future political agendas.
I agree again the need to ask serious questions of the candidates.
I thank you for your input into this issue. Is there any thought on your part of what to do with our president Shields who is destroying the organization. I feel that we are in such at tail spin and will not be able to pull out. I never thought of him being involved with Rahm but it is appearing more and more that this is the case.
Thank You
Keep your eyes open and stay tuned. Yea right.
12/16/2013 04:34:00 PM
NEWS FLASH !!!
In-House Lawyer flips on Donahue, Bella, Dougherty, and Aguliar!!! Accidently let the cat out of the bag a few weeks ago. Former FOP attorney’s email accounts frozen. Last two (2) arbitrations were a sham. CityWide team was in bed with the City.
IG Joseph Ferguson asked to investigate. This is only about 25% of the shit that will come out. Letter read to me by member of the Dream Team - former member of the core group. Let’s see if Sid can doctor up the minutes so our in-house attorney’s words are twisted.
Now you know why the CityWide Team has been working at fever pitch to get Shields out of office since Labor Day. They can’t wait three months until the election is over.
Let’s see how Markie Mark can spin this and blame Shields. Mark how good of a job did you do erasing the computer they got back from the sexual harassment law suit? We all got fucked out of 6.1%. Thanks a lot Mark. Now you know how Billy got into 22 w/o being a retread.
And I’m asking a question that no one else seems to think about. Did this go back to Nolan’s tenure?
Do you think that they told the seven replacements on their ticket any of this shit after they lost seven people from their last run for office?
So when people here were talking about secret talks with the city, that the rest of the core group were not involved in, the posters here were defending the City-Wide Team knew full well that they were lying to the membership.
Rahm thanks you for bringing Mikey as the prez of fop.
Rahm is no ones fool !!
$$$$$$$$$$$
Are you nuts Tiny Dancer hates Shields as much as Karen Lewis. But he loves Mark Donahue and "Jim" Ade!"
Nobody, has lost retro, or anything else. The contract has not yet been settled. Unbelievable!
Prediction:
The percentage of active FOP members that will actually return their ballot will be less than the percentage number needed to move on to the second half of the sergeant test.
Like anyone else running in the upcoming election and/or supporting friends or coworkers that are running, Rue St. Michel has an agenda. Blogger Rue makes some valid points, but fails to report without prejudice. Loyalty blinds regardless of age, wisdom, or time of the job.
I completely understand the games played when campaign season gets underway; hell, this promises to be the dirtiest FOP election campaign in who knows how long. However, there's always at least two sides to every story, and this soap opera promises many more than that.
Anyone that thinks the problems with our union started when Shields got elected needs their fucking head examined. Expect revelations like you couldn't imagine if things get really ugly and certain people feel like they have to go "all in". There's a ton of skeletons in FOPs closet, and the vast majority are owned by the remnants of the Donahue & Co. regime.
12/15/2013 03:12:00 AM
Totally agree. This is a long time coming. ALL need to be voted out. Every last one.
Like a cancer, the ENTIRE FOP board must be cut out, to stop the death of the whole.......if you don't do this now, we will never recover......
Arbitrator Benn awarded rank-and-file police officers a 10 percent pay increase over five years, their smallest increase in 30 years.
And do any of you people want to reward any of the Donahue/Dougherty team by reelecting any of them? If you do then you deserve to get screwed.
The letter and action would be better if the membership was utilized to request salary caps, dues caps, elimination of redundant and unnecessary positions, etc. Anything less will promote business as usual.
The way the lodge operates has fortunately come into clearer focus. That fop staff are lazy and resting on their laurels not doing a good job for is needs to be changed. The whole place needs to be shaken up. I am the king of austerity, I'd love to see the office pared down to essentials without waste.
Skip removing the president or whomever at this stage. Go for the real change that will keep these guys on their toes and bring them back to reality. Obviously their jobs are too cushy. We need to make it less comfortable for them. Maybe they will remember who elected them and what they're supposed to be doing!
Now all you cry babies and court mongers run back to work and make more arrests. If you really want to stand united and show Rahm who's in charge stop locking people up for bullshit just to give them their numbers. The discretionary power is yours!
Coppers are no different than any other Asshole naive citizen. The real working coppers don't generally have the means to be elected FOP president. It takes a lot of money to do all that printing of signs and book covers and magnets and all of the other bullshit these guys do. These guys usually have someone behind them and if u don't believe that you're naive. They're all political hacks but when a regular guy that might very well be the smartest and best choice we don't even recognize him as a legit candidate because everyone says "who's this guy? I never heard of him". Think of a regular political election it's always 2 or 3 names max that have a legit shot. Why? Money and name recognition. The ability to spend and get their message out. Coppers don't have the sense or interest to do their homework and research these guys
12/15/2013 05:01:00 PM
Very true and any copper that runs is going to be trashed by everyone at fop and on this blog. We get what we are.
Every single board member passed along the lie that Shields told us regarding the letter. The reason we passed along the lie is because Mike Shields was the only one that knew it was a lie and we thought we were passing along the truth. No one ever dreamed that the President of our lodge would spread such a lie that could possibly be so harmful to the membership. Well time has a way of revealing the truth and now we will all suffer because of his incompetence. It should be noted that he still has some loyal followers on the board who have joined themselves at the hip with Shields so when they hit the water they will sink much faster.
12/15/2013 07:32:00 PM
So will you.
I'm going to vote for shields just to screw over all the career fop folks who are posting crap on here trying to make themselves look good. You all stink. I'm glad that the negative attention on Shields has shone a light on all the do nothing's at FOP. I'm voting for Shields so the whole place can get turned inside out. If current FOP guys hate it so much there LEAVE! PLEASE! It's not like you're doing anything anyway but sucking up MY money.
Capparelli has been there too long
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