New FOP Book Out
First, why did they get rid of the blank pages for notes near the back of the book? We used to keep all sorts of handy items there. Now we're going to have to carry a loose piece of paper that will get lost and crumpled up.
Second, now we have a handy list of everyone that should be voted out of the office next year.
Second, now we have a handy list of everyone that should be voted out of the office next year.
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now we have a handy list of everyone that should be voted out of the office next year
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This FOP administration is a joke. I vote zero confidence on the whole team.
Wow! My thoughts exactly this current administration can't get anything right!!
The page for frequently used numbers was moved to the middle of the book instead of being the last page as in years past!
Lol!
Get some different colored paper clips SCC! They work just fine...
Those clowns don't stand a chance. I've never heard so many openly talk how much they hate Shields and his crew of assholes. Even people that normally say nothing talk about voting them out. The no retro will cost us big $$$ and/or concessions and it will cost them their election.
Let it go already SCC. It's painfully obvious and repeatedly rammed down our throats which way you folks swing. But you need to give it a rest already. While your overall message is one I and many support s**t like this further devides you guys. Yea, yea, yea, I know the business about me starting my own blog if I don't agree but your message has worn out its welcome. Maybe use your influence knowledge and intelligence to rally the troops instead of beating the dead horse which will probably lose the next [FOP] race. Quit enabling your common enemy by further dividing the ranks. You're too good to have to lower yourself to appease the common denominator. Organize something that may actually impact the good of all active folks and us retirees instead of playing into the hands of our common enemy and I guarantee a force to be reckoned with. Don't forget that us retirees vote and have nothing but time on our hands to get involved. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't be that superhero that uses his \ her /their powers the wrong way. Enough of the bashing, bring the troops together. Ps , sorry for the typos just got this new gadget and learning it. Us dinosaurs need a bit more time to get up to speed. Thanks for the rant SCC.
Retired and tired of what happened to my beloved CPD
I hear Shields demanded the cover be made of actual gold from the melted down stars of former CPD Bosses!
Believe it or not there are a few good people on that board that have the officers of the CPD best interests in mind, BUT there are NOT MANY.....
I agree / thought the same thing about the blank notes pages.
got mine last week. Good job FOP. yes no extra pages but who cares. wait and see how many cry babies complain that they didn't get theirs. Ive been on over 20 years and have never not got book through the mail. if you need to follow a list of who not to vote for then shame on you. Go to a meeting and talk to the guys that are in the office. Make you own decisions. Don't go off a list, listen to someone who has never been to a meeting, or pay attention to an insignificant blog... Stay safe
Gotta vote!!!
Check the calendar closely. The City had to reprint the department 2014 calendar because of a mistake.
Same with the page for phone numbers. It's now in the middle of the book making it not very convenient.
First, why did they get rid of the blank pages for notes near the back of the book?
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Type all the important info up in a 9 or 10 font, print it out, cut out the pages down to size and glue them into the book over some B.S. pages that are not necessary.
Like pages 154, 155, - 158,159
I'm guessing Mikey shields will be in narcotics as a sergeant after he loses the election.
Anyone ever figure out how the great Doughtery the 2nd vice prez got to cushy 022. Since NO one can remember how to send letters regarding contracts he landed in a great place.
It seems Mikey forgot to send a letter securing the back pages for notes. Everybody told him it needed to get done. He failed to send the letter, lied about it and then admitted that it was his fault. Nobody stepped up to take control and now different factions are attending roll calls. You know it's election time when these mutts start coming around. Oh, wait what were we talking about again?
Damn! I was just in roll call filling out my new fop book and said the same thing I was like damn what happened to the blank pages!? So I had to rip the old ones out of last year's book and put them in the new one! Lol .....glad I'm not the only one who thought about this!
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who was pissed about the note pages
Blank pages cost money.
They can't do anything write.
LOL some are never happy.
Its to save money. Everybody's going on the cheap.
MWAHAHA!!
They're no blank pages because we know everything and don't need notes. You might be the exception. Lol
You summed it up Second City.....
Everyone on the FOP book is to be voted off, because Shields still gets a seat as a past president. He'll just cause more trouble so make sure that the people you vote in have "NO" ties to him.
who's running? I've seen Dean Angelo who was with Bill Nolan's crew in the 90's. He's not the answer. Anybody but Shields. I won't vote for either one of these guys. Hopefully someone will step up.
Why should everyone be voted out of office? At least three guys up there seem to know what they are doing and seem to do their jobs well. Aguilar, Dougherty, and Gorman should stay. A completely new regime is never a good idea for anyone. Even the state staggers elections so that cannot happen.
As for Shields and the rest. They won't be missed.
I could not believe they removed the blank pages. I had 8 pages of notes and phone numbers in last years. What a completly moronic change.
As long as you have one of those cheap fop book covers, I tore my one number page of notes out and slid it under the clear cover on the back page.
Stupid decision to take the NOTES section out.
Interestingly enough, the book claims to have the same number of pages.
Yes, but watch who you vote in. There are some real turds throwing their hats in.
worst fop book ever!!! the traffic section is missing so many charges its all jacked up..
Boo Hoo
I feel the same way. That was where I kept information that I needed for quick reference. now I have it written on a contact card that fell in the snow. Also agree vote these bastards out!
Believe it or not there are a few good people on that board that have the officers of the CPD best interests in mind, BUT there are NOT MANY
Really? Name One?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Let it go already SCC. It's painfully obvious and repeatedly rammed down our throats which way you folks swing. But you need to give it a rest already. While your overall message is one I and many support s**t like this further devides you guys. Yea, yea, yea, I know the business about me starting my own blog if I don't agree but your message has worn out its welcome. Maybe use your influence knowledge and intelligence to rally the troops instead of beating the dead horse which will probably lose the next [FOP] race. Quit enabling your common enemy by further dividing the ranks. You're too good to have to lower yourself to appease the common denominator. Organize something that may actually impact the good of all active folks and us retirees instead of playing into the hands of our common enemy and I guarantee a force to be reckoned with. Don't forget that us retirees vote and have nothing but time on our hands to get involved. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't be that superhero that uses his \ her /their powers the wrong way. Enough of the bashing, bring the troops together. Ps , sorry for the typos just got this new gadget and learning it. Us dinosaurs need a bit more time to get up to speed. Thanks for the rant SCC.
Retired and tired of what happened to my beloved CPD
12/14/2013 12:36:00 AM
It is to late to bring us together under this FOP. They cost members thousands of dollars in retro. Something you don't have to worry about because you are retired. This is what affects the rank and file now. This is the talk in the districts. If you don't like it don't read site. I for one like the get out the vote against this fop! Good luck and god bless you in your retirement.
it just go's to show you how out of touch the FOP is with the working police they represent.
It seems Mikey forgot to send a letter securing the back pages for notes.
OK, that's some funny sh*t! Choked on my cheerios.
SCC, I can't believe that everything that is wrong with this job you're losing sleep over this.
12:36:00am
I concur.
I have every FOP book from my entire career. By the end, near 30 years, I had pages and pages of useful ph. numbers in those blank pages. You collect a lot of useful info and every year I would take it from the old book and transcribe it to the new. It was always like that, since the 80's.
Now there are no blank pages. I'd like to know whose decision that was. Dumb move. Dumb dumb. Not a huge deal but dumb.
-revolver police
Paul Geiger used the extra pages to write Dougherty and shields thank you notes for not firing him even though he has cost the membership millions.
VOTE
I ran into a retired cop at Oak Brook Mall yesterday. He said they have put together an all retiree ticket for the election. All would have done 29 and a day or better on the job. Everyone but one would be under 63 yoa. All would be full duty at the time of their retirement. All would be have been either unit rep or watch rep. Mostly unit reps. None would take a salary only a small monthly stipend.
They would interview active duty officers for the field rep position. Some - maybe the ones in office now - or in the past. The would run the office under close supervision. They would lower the pay of a field rep from D5 to D3. The Field Reps would have to play well with others and realize this is not a life time appointment. There would be an annual review. They would keep Chris Kato, Capt Farrell (sp) and Pat Camden on the payroll.
This all sounds pretty good and he sounded deadly serious.
Anonymous said...
Let it go already SCC. It's painfully obvious and repeatedly rammed down our throats which way you folks swing. But you need to give it a rest already. While your overall message is one I and many support s**t like this further devides you guys. Yea, yea, yea, I know the business about me starting my own blog if I don't agree but your message has worn out its welcome. Maybe use your influence knowledge and intelligence to rally the troops instead of beating the dead horse which will probably lose the next [FOP] race. Quit enabling your common enemy by further dividing the ranks. You're too good to have to lower yourself to appease the common denominator. Organize something that may actually impact the good of all active folks and us retirees instead of playing into the hands of our common enemy and I guarantee a force to be reckoned with. Don't forget that us retirees vote and have nothing but time on our hands to get involved. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't be that superhero that uses his \ her /their powers the wrong way. Enough of the bashing, bring the troops together. Ps , sorry for the typos just got this new gadget and learning it. Us dinosaurs need a bit more time to get up to speed. Thanks for the rant SCC.
Retired and tired of what happened to my beloved CPD
12/14/2013 12:36:00 AM
Who are you to determine if SCC's message is uniting or dividing? It's very simple, if you don't like or agree with the message don't read it.
I love the Mikey Shields centerfold! Hot!
Anyone ever figure out how the great Doughtery the 2nd vice prez got to cushy 022. Since NO one can remember how to send letters regarding contracts he landed in a great place.
12/14/2013 03:59:00 AM
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Fran Hurley is doing 50 yard sprints to get away form coppers and firemen in the 19th ward.
For some reason I have a feeling someone else took care of Dougherty. Whoever that was is the person(s) who had Donahue and Dougherty take care of Hurley.
And where is Steve Robbins at? He's like a where's Waldo kids book he's everywhere but near FOP now. He was so concerned about his by-law change that no one has seen him at a meeting since then. And something still smells in Demark and it's not sardines.
Has Tom McDonagh ever vacationed in Denmark?
December 17th General FOP Meeting at 1900 hrs is when all FOP members in good standing can run for office and must attend the meeting to put themselves on the ballot for the March election.
Pissed off about missing pages?
Some of you motherfuckers are absolutely pathetic.
Not quite sure when FOP meetings are, or have been to more than you can count on one hand.
No clue as to how many years between FOP elections or how many positions exist.
Not even close to an inkling of an idea of the day to day shit that goes on there and how things come to be.
But these same D-Bags are the first to spout-off about who needs to be thrown out of office, how they're certain there'll be no retro check and how Mike and the crew have cushy gigs lined up post FOP for "selling out the entire membership".
I hope Rahm sticks it balls-deep into our collective ass just to piss you uneducated dolts off some more. I hope there ain't a cent of retro to be seen and all the blowhards here have to work a few extra days of VRI to make up for it.
Some seem to know everything about everyone and everything else, yet they're not smart enough to figure out what to do about a few missing pages in an FOP book.
And you wonder why the collective CPD will never be taken seriously.
"They can't do anything write." ...
Lmao! This could make a good T-shirt.
Amongst all the bitching and complaining on this blog, I couldn't help but laugh when I saw this comment.
It's "right", not "write". Thanks for the laugh buddy...
every fop book for 30 years
get a life buddy
sure you'll be working until you turn 63 , taking away vri from me
have they at least updated the hospitals..
I have every FOP book from my entire career. By the end, near 30 years, I had pages and pages of useful ph. numbers in those blank pages. You collect a lot of useful info and every year I would take it from the old book and transcribe it to the new. It was always like that, since the 80's.
Now there are no blank pages. I'd like to know whose decision that was. Dumb move. Dumb dumb. Not a huge deal but dumb.
-revolver police
Your moniker should be "retarded police."
Every FOP book for 30 years?! Who are you? Frank Costanza.
30 years on the job and you can't adapt to an FOP book not having a couple of blank pages.
You, sir, are what's wrong with this, now, fucked up department.
Unless you're the goof who collected 30 years of FOP books and undoubtedly walks around with his 1st bag phone, just about everyone has a smart phone.
FOP has an app for numbers and Chicago Cop is an excellent source for information.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anyone ever figure out how the great Doughtery the 2nd vice prez got to cushy 022. Since NO one can remember how to send letters regarding contracts he landed in a great place.
12/14/2013 03:59:00 AM
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Fran Hurley is doing 50 yard sprints to get away form coppers and firemen in the 19th ward.
For some reason I have a feeling someone else took care of Dougherty. Whoever that was is the person(s) who had Donahue and Dougherty take care of Hurley.
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From Dougherty's mouth himself, it was none other than Supt GMac that ordered him sent to 022. Supposedly, Supt was dumbfounded at what's going on at FOP and doesn't understand why Dougherty was dumped by Shields. Take it however you want, I heard it myself from Dougherty's mouth.
"This all sounds pretty good and he sounded deadly serious."
Yep. And you bought it hook, line and sinker.
Ya see, everyone talks a big game, throws out cool suggestions and tries to make promises regarding things they really have little to no [individual] control over. Now throw in a few guys that don't get along or that have different ideas regarding the way they feel the organization should be run and you oftentimes do more harm than good. Look no further than the current regime to witness what happens (or doesn't happen) when you put a variety of ideas, ideals, personalities, egos, experience and agendas in the same room and tell them to play nice. The best of intentions only go so far without the majority being on the same page.
Regarding salaries: I believe reducing salaries, for instance, would be subject to a vote and maybe even bylaw changes. And I got news for you, son....AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. Ever.
You want to break the strongest of bonds? Hit someone in their pocketbook. Look at all the "they're taking food off my table"-type comments you've been hearing regarding the retro situation as a prime example on how quick you can get coppers out of focus. Coppers are notoriously cheap and get extra vocal when complaining about money. Sometimes it's money they've never even had their mitts on. Same money that isn't a total lost cause yet.
Same goes for the good-intentioned retired dreamers contemplating a run at FOP. If there's anybody particularly guarded of their money, it's the old-timers. And don't get me wrong, retirees are a wealth of information and experience - I'm close to being one myself. That said, you'd be a fool to want or encourage an "all retiree" Board. The potential for conflicts of interest would be too great. A good mix is ideal - you just have to have that mix open-minded and on the same page most of the time.
Start attending meetings, get involved and try to land a spot on a committee or two and see how things work in the REAL world. I think you'll be unpleasantly surprised.
A wise old man used to tell me "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". Same applies here, albeit in different context.
It seems Mikey forgot to send a letter securing the back pages for notes. Everybody told him it needed to get done. He failed to send the letter, lied about it and then admitted that it was his fault. Nobody stepped up to take control and now different factions are attending roll calls. You know it's election time when these mutts start coming around. Oh, wait what were we talking about again?
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I just pissed myself !!!
Anonymous said...
every fop book for 30 years
get a life buddy
sure you'll be working until you turn 63 , taking away vri from me
12/14/2013 03:03:00 PM
Every chance I get. I would stay for that reason alone. Don't like it? Then get some seniority.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
December 17th General FOP Meeting at 1900 hrs is when all FOP members in good standing can run for office and must attend the meeting to put themselves on the ballot for the March election.
12/14/2013 02:22:00 PM
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You must have already made 5 meetings this year to qualify. Every election there a few who try and pull a fast one and run for office w/o ever being involved in the last three years.
Anonymous said...
I have every FOP book from my entire career. By the end, near 30 years, I had pages and pages of useful ph. numbers in those blank pages. You collect a lot of useful info and every year I would take it from the old book and transcribe it to the new. It was always like that, since the 80's.
Now there are no blank pages. I'd like to know whose decision that was. Dumb move. Dumb dumb. Not a huge deal but dumb.
-revolver police
12/14/2013 10:42:00 AM
Revolver Police? You sound more like the flint lock police. Please do not embarrass yourself and put on the uniform and pretend you are still working to get a free meal like Sgt. Mike.
Believe it or not there are a few good people on that board that have the officers of the CPD best interests in mind, BUT there are NOT MANY
Really? Name One?
And where is Steve Robbins at? He's like a where's Waldo kids book he's everywhere but near FOP now. He was so concerned about his by-law change that no one has seen him at a meeting since then. And something still smells in Demark and it's not sardines.
Has Tom McDonagh ever vacationed in Denmark
First of all apparently you have never attended a meeting or had to do any business with FOP. So then you would not have any idea of the good people up there which there are several. Do you also think it is best to get rid of all your knowledge to spite your face?
As far as Steve is concerned check with Mike Shields and Rick King the last I heard the three of them are on the same ticket as last time no joke this is the truth. So check with Mike or Rick and they can tell you were Steve is at.
You will have to check with Tom if he has ever been in Denmark, but he sure can drink beer with you.
First of all apparently you have never attended a meeting or had to do any business with FOP. So then you would not have any idea of the good people up there which there are several.
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Please name one that has been up there for two or more terms. Looking at the magnet from the last election let’s look at the CityWide team:
Bella and Capparelli jumped off of Dougherty’s ticket or did Bill push them off because of the coming legal problems? They are running with McDonagh who has his own special problem.
Duckhorn and Rutherford left to go with Angelo. Why? Because they know the shit is about to hit the fan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZdp46Jen_w
And Burns and Trevino left to go with Shields. What do these six guys know that they are not talking about? Thats a lot of guys who jumped ship from the last election!
Maybe these six guys are all spies for Donahue/Dougherty 1000 year Reich. Maybe Robbins was a spy for Donahue all along. Lets wait a month and see how it looks like then.
He said they have put together an all retiree ticket for the election
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As long as it isn't the eight dicwads that sit at the bar and drink beer and leave after they fill up on pizza. They have not sat in the meetings or got invoved in a decade.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Paul Geiger used the extra pages to write Dougherty and shields thank you notes for not firing him even though he has cost the membership millions.
12/14/2013 10:51:00 AM
Haha. Who thinks up this crap? PRobably some fired lawyers used to enjoy double dipping at the FOP.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Unless you're the goof who collected 30 years of FOP books and undoubtedly walks around with his 1st bag phone, just about everyone has a smart phone.
FOP has an app for numbers and Chicago Cop is an excellent source for information.
12/14/2013 05:20:00 PM
what's an app?
Two simple solutions:
1: Staple some pages to the inside of the back cover.
2: Come into this century and use the app and make a note for work stuff on your phone. I have not touched a paper FOP book since the app was released.
I always thought cops were tough people who solved problems. I appreciate a lot of the info on this site, but this one is just people whining and nitpicking.
Believe it or not there are a few good people on that board that have the officers of the CPD best interests in mind, BUT there are NOT MANY.....
Vote everyone of them out of office. A new team cannot do ant worse.
Mine came with a twenty folded neatly inside...what was that all about?
That's cuz this book was put together by Saul not the board
Anonymous said...
I have every FOP book from my entire career. By the end, near 30 years, I had pages and pages of useful ph. numbers in those blank pages. You collect a lot of useful info and every year I would take it from the old book and transcribe it to the new. It was always like that, since the 80's.
Now there are no blank pages. I'd like to know whose decision that was. Dumb move. Dumb dumb. Not a huge deal but dumb.
-revolver police
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OMG, I am truly flabbergasted why anyone who is even REMOTELY a bit sane would save their FOP books for 30 years.
I plan on burning every stupid-ass award, pin, stripe, and everything police related, down to the shoelaces in my shoes when I retire.
Could you please let me know if you're already retired and living out of Chicago or retiring and moving so I don't end up being your neighbor?
Honest to God, I can't imagine it. That's the kind of stuff sit-com writers come up with.
12/14/2013 10:42:00 AM
Revolver Police? You sound more like the flint lock police. Please do not embarrass yourself and put on the uniform and pretend you are still working to get a free meal like Sgt. Mike.
12/14/2013 07:08:00 PM
I'm not the poster to whom this was your response, but, thank God I never had to endure a day in a squad car with you. You have become a bitter, insecure, evil and hateful person that should be weeded out of the CPD. Merry Christmas!...as if that would be even remotely possible for you.
Stay safe boys and girls.
Saul is one of the problems. Just Look at his expense reports; He nickels and dimes the FOP for everything.
I called FOP about the missing pages. They said they are working on a Youtube fix for this oversight. In the meantime, they suggested I take the pages from the old book and install them in the new book like a supplemental reader. We'll, I followed their suggestion and it took me two hours to pull apart book, add new pages. and put back together. I don't embrace excuses. I embrace solutions.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Unless you're the goof who collected 30 years of FOP books and undoubtedly walks around with his 1st bag phone, just about everyone has a smart phone.
FOP has an app for numbers and Chicago Cop is an excellent source for information.
12/14/2013 05:20:00 PM
what's an app?
I hope u r kiding, but if not download it to your phone and you can keep couurt dates and important phone numbers in it
They should just eliminate the handbook altogether. Everything can be on the app.
Any old timers will have to move up to this century with technology
It also doesn't say when the 9th period starts.
Anonymous said...
Unless you're the goof who collected 30 years of FOP books and undoubtedly walks around with his 1st bag phone, just about everyone has a smart phone.
FOP has an app for numbers and Chicago Cop is an excellent source for information.
12/14/2013 05:20:00 PM
what's an app?
I hope u r kiding, but if not download it to your phone and you can keep couurt dates and important phone numbers in it
12/15/2013 11:34:00 AM
Yes, I'm kidding. And I tossed the bag phone years ago because Ameritech, later Verizon, went all digital on their network. Bag phone is analog. I don't know of any analog networks left in the US. Still I miss that old bag phone, and the brick, and the many flip phones. Now I have to have a smart phone, don't like it much though.
Keep an extra flint for the flintlock always.
Anonymous said...
I called FOP about the missing pages. They said they are working on a Youtube fix for this oversight. In the meantime, they suggested I take the pages from the old book and install them in the new book like a supplemental reader. We'll, I followed their suggestion and it took me two hours to pull apart book, add new pages. and put back together. I don't embrace excuses. I embrace solutions.
12/15/2013 10:47:00 AM
That's the spirit! If I can't fix it, it isn't broken!
Anonymous said...
I have every FOP book from my entire career. By the end, near 30 years, I had pages and pages of useful ph. numbers in those blank pages. You collect a lot of useful info and every year I would take it from the old book and transcribe it to the new. It was always like that, since the 80's.
Now there are no blank pages. I'd like to know whose decision that was. Dumb move. Dumb dumb. Not a huge deal but dumb.
-revolver police
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OMG, I am truly flabbergasted why anyone who is even REMOTELY a bit sane would save their FOP books for 30 years.
It started when I just started throwing them in a drawer in December and forgot about them. This went on for a few years and a few more and pretty soon I had a ton of them. It wasn't a compulsion at first, I just throw them in the police junk drawer and forget about it, till next year. Then one year I dragged them all out and I had every one.
Now, don't tell me that you don't have every check stub from every paycheck of your whole career? OK, I don't have those, but I do have the first one.
There will be an option next year to place an order by demand, by a deadline the printing company can fill by dec.2014 in time to have them mailed as usual, but only to those who order one for a small fee to be determined.
This way, the app happy smart phone users can continue to go greendigital while the conventional users can keep the traditional format for at least another year.
There's also a pop-up version with holograms available right now at participating Goldblatts stores in the basement clearance section. Stop in for a lime jello in the glass bowl from the cafeteria and you'll receive a set of 3D glasses so the bonus comic section of your fop book will really pop out at you.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
every fop book for 30 years
get a life buddy
sure you'll be working until you turn 63 , taking away vri from me
12/14/2013 03:03:00 PM
Every chance I get. I would stay for that reason alone. Don't like it? Then get some seniority.
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Haha!! Love it! I'm now gonna stick around another 3 years just so the "puppy" can't work VRI!!
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