More Evidence of a Promotional Class
Someone brought AdMin Fax #211188 to our attention. It is a notice from Human Resources that all verifications of Academic Credentials must be updated and current as of 12 December. This can only mean a "merit" list is being put together. According to this comment, the list has to be released before the new list hits the mailboxes:
- Be on the lookout for scamming mfers....when you get your results it should say something along the lines of "you are now eligible for merit promotion". They usually try to sneak through one last class on the old merit list.
Based upon this, I am going to forecast a message coming out this week for sgt promotions starting monday. If they miss this one and release the results, they'll have to do a new merit selection from the new test eligibles.
We've seen guess-timates of low 30's to middle 80's for a class size. We've also heard that a class of lieutenants is in the offing.
Anyone know how short the sergeant rank supposedly is at the moment? Or lieutenants for that matter?
Anyone know how short the sergeant rank supposedly is at the moment? Or lieutenants for that matter?
Labels: promotions
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
122 Comments:
I know at least two sergeants who overstayed their welcome and should have retired by now, but they're desperate to get that lieutenant rank before they go.
Hope you both retire as sergeants. Outlasting everybody else doesn't make you any more qualified for the rank.
Both parts of the test have to be completed to be eligible for merit.
Lt's aren't needed anymore...
It's not for sergeants which we have more than enough of. It's for detectives. Sorry, but everyone close on the current sergeants list is S.O.L.
006/3rd watch! What in the hell is going on there? After working a few southside districts, this is hands down, the worst place I've ever been. From Sgt Mul***ex trying jam up any copper that misses a shave, or wearing black sneakers, to no people never working their assigned cars cuz Roytman thinks we need to be shaken up!
I feel a mass exodus coming, similar to the one in 003 a few years back.
Pax 501 - 2014 Career Opportunities
The future and success of any organization lies within its ranks, and CPD is no different. Everything undertaken over the past two and a half years is designed to help the Department build upon itself as a dynamic organization today, tomorrow and for years to come.
Opportunities for promotion and continued professional growth create a stronger Department, enhancing knowledge and abilities. For years there were far too few of these opportunities and I, along with the leadership of the Department, are working to change that.
Over the past 16 months, there have been promotions made to every rank in the Department. In 2013 alone, the Department saw the first new class of detectives promoted in five years and the first Sergeant's exam administered in over seven years.
Still, many of you joined the Chicago Police Department with the hope of serving in specialized law enforcement roles. Maybe you dream of becoming a canine handler or an explosive technician. Perhaps your ultimate goal is to patrol the shoreline of Lake Michigan in our Marine and Helicopter Unit. There are vast career opportunities within our Department. For years those opportunities were not within reach but, today, I am happy to announce we are making them a real possibility for you.
Beginning this month, and continuing throughout 2014, application processes will be announced for the following positions: Mounted Unit Officer, Marine Officer, Canine Handler, Explosive Technician, SWAT Team Member, and SWAT Team Sergeant.
Please do not wait until the application periods open to prepare for these career opportunities. Start now. These rewarding assignments require physical and mental stamina as well as specialized knowledge. The effort you put forth may help to distinguish you from the crowd and achieve your goals within the Department.
For those of you who have taken the first part of the Sergeant’s exam, I congratulate you on your commitment and I urge you to continue to prepare for the next portion. Your efforts will be revealed in the final results.
I would like to thank all of you, at every rank, for your continued dedication. You are the driving force behind the progress we are making to make our great City a safer place for everyone. You exceed expectations and demonstrate outstanding professionalism at every turn. With your continued hard work, we will build upon today’s successes and continue to serve and protect our communities.
Garry F. McCarthy
Superintendent of Police
OT. I just want to say the General Motors has just promoted their first female to their top position. Do you think we will hear from the press a hundred times that she is the first Caucasian to get this job? Nope, we won't cause no one cares about her skin color. Hey news whores, stop with first black this and first black that. The only ones worried about color keep shoving it in everyone else's face. Enough already. And oh yes since I'm on a rant, please stop using the phrase "Reverse discrimination" it's just ignorant. Discrimination isn't just if you are black, it's any color. If you are white blue or yellow and someone discriminates you based on color well, it's plain old shitty discrimination. You insult yourself by saying reverse discrimination. God bless the CPD.
money for promotions but not for pensions?
As of last Sgt's meeting in November, there were 130 vacancies, including recent retirees at that time.
Sgts are down 100 off the budgeted amount.
The instructions on this sgt exam clearly state you must take part 1 and 2 to be eligible for merit. Read it for yourself.
OT: Armed citizens making a positive difference
Police say 25-year-old Demarcus Brandon tried to rob the store, in the 1700 block of East 87th Street, but was shot dead by the clerk. Brandon was pronounced dead at the scene, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office. Police found a handgun they believed to be his.
Brandon was paroled from the Shawnee Correctional Center this summer, where he had been serving concurrent 3-year and 13-year sentences, according to Illinois Department of Corrections and Cook County Court records.
The 13-year sentence stemmed from an incident in Chicago in which Brandon was charged with armed robbery with a firearm, armed violence, aggravated unlawful use of a weapon, gun possession, aggravated fleeing from police, and having either a rifle with a barrel less than 16 inches or shotgun with a barrel less than 18 inches.
That case, and the one that ended with a 3-year sentence, both ended in plea deals, according to court records. He was credited for about 20 months time served and admitted to IDOC custody in September 2008
Thank you citizens for taking the initiative in your own defense.
More of this please!
Can I take part 3?
I love to get my daily laugh when reading the comments on the blog. Here comes the truth. Sgts to start 23 December 2013. Class size will be 40. The academy has the room already set up. A second class of Sgts in January or February 2014. Class size is rumored anywhere from 20 to 50. The Sgt rank is over 150 short of authorized manpower.
McCarthy is doing merit interviews for Lt this week. Lts supposed to have a class on the 23rd of Dec 2013. Class is supposed to 20. Lts to get a second class in early 2014 whenever Sgts go. Class size rumored to be 20.
No Dicks at this time. Once again for the truth. All promotional exams are good until the new list is put up with both parts taken and invdividual rank is given out.
DO NOT LISTEN TO THE OTHER BS COMMENTS!!
God help CPD if any of these 4 year wonders score high enough to secure a promotion at 6 years otj. CPD needs experienced leadership. Not these know-it-alls from this entitlement generation. I'm sorry but ten nickel bag arrests from traffic stops of non licensed drivers do not make you the "real Police" and a qualified Supervisor. Talk to any of the new Ppos lately? Most of them think they should be bosses and never plan on being the Police.
To the younguns crying about guys that have overstayed their welcome, anybody on the job hasn't overstayed their welcome until they turn 63 yoa.
Thanks for playing.
I still laugh every time they
give promotional exam at all the suckers and dim wits that actually think they have a real chance.
006/3rd watch! What in the hell is going on there? After working a few southside districts, this is hands down, the worst place I've ever been. From Sgt Mul***ex trying jam up any copper that misses a shave, or wearing black sneakers/
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Hey JR. that's what a watch commander is supposed to do, you newbies have no idea what it was like on this job, that AT&T commercial is this job with you new coppers.....Yea fucking shave and wear the correct shoes, have some PRIDE IN YOUR APPEARANCE after all 490 of your prior fellow officers died in this uniform, so stop your fucking crying and wear what your supposed to.... And put your fucking beat tag on, and buy a city sticker, back in the day the city sticker used to be a for sure day off.....
why promote anybody?
you have a captain in charge of civilians at the oemc.
apparently the police dept is overstocked with upper management
What about evidence techs?????
The instructions on this sgt exam clearly state you must take part 1 and 2 to be eligible for merit. Read it for yourself.
12/11/2013 03:40:00 AM
When has not following the rules ever stopped someone from being promoted based on merit?
Anonymous said...
Both parts of the test have to be completed to be eligible for merit.
12/11/2013 12:26:00 AM
Why do you legitimize the testing process???
In 006: "I feel a mass exodus coming, similar to the one in 003 a few years back. "
To go where? They only place they will let you leave for is 005. Hard to exit if they don't put out bids ...
Here it is:
Larry
Moe
Curly
Shemp
Harpo
Dean
Jerry
006/3rd watch! What in the hell is going on there? After working a few southside districts, this is hands down, the worst place I've ever been. From Sgt Mul***ex trying jam up any copper that misses a shave, or wearing black sneakers, to no people never working their assigned cars cuz Roytman thinks we need to be shaken up!
I feel a mass exodus coming, similar to the one in 003 a few years back.
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Wow a mass exodus because a supervisor wants you to adhere to the GO, you are part of what is wrong with this department.
Sgts are down 100, about 8% below budget. Lts are down about 50, about 20% below budgeted numbers.
Good Luck on LT JD!
Pax 501 - 2014 Career Opportunities
A dynamic organization? How?
By belittling people?
I hope that the clueless sgt that ordered officers to a super flea, bug infested house be reprimanded. Knowingly sent officers to a house that it was supposed to be evicted by the cook county sheriffs. It downed at least a beat car and several officers sent to the hospital. The officers didn't even get far to do thr arrest due to the fleas. All the sgt had to do given fleas, bugs and unsafe conditions in that particular location. Just have the report done, contact caps and keep the officers safe. Yes, we must go into unsafe jobs, but not when we do not have a hazmat suit, we carry no bug spray and knowingly this downing of cars and sending officers to the hospital could of been avoided. Work, but do it smartly. This is the poor decision making we see in sgts. There should be better protocol to counter this type of poor decision making since our general order says that we cannot refuse an order. In the infinute wisdom now officers had to be sent to the hospital to get bug free and vehicle downed.
Did I need to take part one to take part two? Cooter.
Wtf, PPOs get to pick furlos amongst themselves while those with 4-5 years get 3B/4As and PPOs get 7s.
Are you trying to ask how many competent sgt.s are still left?
This lt. from 006 Roytman is s real joke. If anyone who has ever came across this character would think his previous employee before becoming the police was A. A circus clown, B. A rodeo clown, or C. Just a plain oh clown. Watch this guy work on the slowest day of the year and he is a wreck in that office. No management skills, HORRIBLE....HORRIBLE people skills, and No leadership skills. 006th district is a miserable place to work in, but when you have management who add to the stress of this misery its just an unhealthy negative work environment which patrolmen can't wait to either retire or leave the district if they can at the first chance they get. However for some its just close to home or its difficult to get even bid out. Keep your head up boys and girls and work smart, cause there is no reason for you to go above and beyond for assholes like this idiot.
Anonymous said...
The instructions on this sgt exam clearly state you must take part 1 and 2 to be eligible for merit. Read it for yourself.
12/11/2013 03:40:00 AM
That only applies to the un-clouted and mortals.
lieutenants are budgeted for 272 or 274. currently down about 100 or so. give or take a few.
40 going in a week from this Monday
New IPRA head is former DEA who was already there....
ST:
Mayor Rahm Emanuel has chosen a former Drug Enforcement Administration agent to lead the agency that investigates police misconduct.
Scott Ando was already working for the Independent Police Review Authority as the first deputy to the chief administrator. He will replace Ilana Rosenzweig, who resigned in the spring after her husband accepted a job in Singapore.
Ando, 56, was among three finalists for the $161,856-a-year job. Their names were submitted to Emanuel by a transition team that included former police Supt. Terry Hillard; Sarah Pang, a recent mayoral appointee to the RTA board; Ald. Deborah Graham (29th); Michael Rodriguez, executive director of the nonprofit formerly known as the Little Village Development Corp., and the Rev. Michael Pfleger, an activist priest.
Do you have to have the educational requirement for sgt prior to taking the test or prior to getting promoted? or at the time of application?
There are no new promotions in the mix. Quite the contrary, several dozen Sergeants and Lieutenants will be demoted next week.
The part one sgt. test results were mailed out this Monday. Expect your results by this Saturday. Next Monday to Tuesday the latest. Good luck to all that passed part one. But don't get your hopes up. This is a city in which the bosses get to see the test.
Hopefully the Superintendent sees a few of the pathetic merit applications and only promotes by score off the list. It would be a hard pill to swallow for me and many others being so close to making it on score while some bosses "eye candy" gets merit. Unfortunately it's happened many times and probably will happen again. Eliminate merit.
Only the clouted were told to get their meritorious packs together. Did anyone else get this heads up? But McDrunk just sent a Pax 501 on promotions and how we all get a chance on promotions. What is the criteria to qualify for meritorious sergeant and how are these canidates found?
i love all of the "take it to the bank" comments recently. I do have the true numbers of how many are getting made.. Im not saying "you heard it here first" or its some big secret but next friday the list for a new class will come out. The list will be for a class of 45 new sgts. one last class from the current list will be made in April (tentative) for 80 sgts. That list will then be taken down shortly after for the new list to come out. They are making a bigger class for the last class incase there is anything that may hold up the new list. im not saying take it to the bank yadayadayada but these are the final numbers at least for the next class. as we all know, the april class numbers and dates can be changed a dozen more times between now and then. but the list is set for next week and merit picks are also done. full class to be 45. congrats to those that made it, sure will be a nice christmas gift.
Just droped off my transscripts. There will be at least one more class off the old list. Number unk. These transscripts are for the old sgt list. So if your short, I wouldnt take any chances. And Sal does not give out a reciept for turning them in at tuition reimbursement
Hey Gary all those upcoming openings are for people with a phone call. Who are you kidding, the ppo's no doubt.
When is the next Detectives class. I've been waiting for YEARS now.
Completely agree with the 1:02 am post about 006. The Lt hates his people,hates his Sgts and hides in his office never making eye contact after messing with people's lives. I have NEVER been treated like this and what it's done to the morale is catastrophic. This is an awful place to work on a good day and for a Napoleonic coward from cushy Northside Dists to make it worse is disgusting.
I've always found that bosses that focus on unnecessary things that aren't problems, are afraid to to address things that really are. It comes from Supvs working in slow Dists that never really had to be the police and that is what we have in 006 on 3rd watch. Between the Sgt nitpicking minor things on an already overworked watch and the most obnoxious Lt in the C.P.D. they create problems that don't exist,to say that they solved them. I can't get out of here soon enough.
Funny letter for a cluster piece of a man that should not be running our department and let alone being able to fire us. This police department is going to shit thanks to him.
cpd needs some new sergeants from the new test , the old list is dead , folks on that list do not remember anything about supervising , if they do they will be on the top of new sargent list
SCC,
You ain't going to believe this shit.
The department spent who knows how many thousands of dollars installing a brand new set of lock boxes outside of the 011 District lockup. The existing lock boxes inside the sally-port haven't had keys in decades, so they installed these new ones.
There are two sets of keys, one in the door of the box and one in the DSS office. But the MASTER KEYS? The ones that open all 12 boxes? It seems the installers handed those off to the civilian maintenance personnel and they haven't been seen since, running on to 48 hours now, more than enough time top make any number of copies that can be used to........well, your imagination can run wild with that.
How long until guns start disappearing and if these master keys are keyed to any other stations' lock boxes, someone has just created a pretty big security nightmare.
Retired July 2012 after 27 years. It amazes me that we are still on first base on promotions. From the webester dict. "Merit Promotions" A system by which appointments and promotions in the civil service are based on competance rather than political favotitism. It seems the Dept. is confussed on the definition!!!
living in Lake Geneva and love it
D. Mertz
86-4B "ouch"
Be safe out there and tell your loved ones every day how much they are in your life.
Anonymous Get some time on kid! said...
To the younguns crying about guys that have overstayed their welcome, anybody on the job hasn't overstayed their welcome until they turn 63 yoa.
Thanks for playing.
12/11/2013 07:10:00 AM
Not a young 'un. A classmate. And you can't fix stupid, no matter how long you stay on the job.
Anonymous said...
The instructions on this sgt exam clearly state you must take part 1 and 2 to be eligible for merit. Read it for yourself.
12/11/2013 03:40:00 AM
When has not following the rules ever stopped someone from being promoted based on merit?
12/11/2013 08:17:00 AM
A piece of paper never stopped anyone from doing anything. A paper treaty didn't stop Hitler from invading the rest of Europe. The rules are for us, not the City. How many times did Phat Phil promote his pals? Not that some of them weren't good coppers but they didn't qualify under the rules. I was an OK police officer. I never got promoted on merit. The "rules" I was told. Finally I threw all my orders, law books, binders etc right in the garbage and stopped trying for promotion. The rest of my career was enjoyable after that.
Felicia Davis(ex-cop) named to head Dept of Buildings(DOB) Trying to figure out where she came from, and how.
Thanks,
DOB
To the younguns crying about guys that have overstayed their welcome, anybody on the job hasn't overstayed their welcome until they turn 63 yoa.
Thanks for playing.
12/11/2013 07:10:00 AM
I do agree with you to a point.... First off it's nobody's business what anyone else does or how long they stay... Now for my personal opinion.. If you can retire at 29 and a day you should.. I understand many can't due to kids still in high school or college etc but for me I will outwear my welcome at 29 and a day as many of you should.. Just my opinion. May work for some and not others. People should mind their own business. If they want to stay till 63 that is their business not yours. Worry about yourself only
Anonymous said...
Both parts of the test have to be completed to be eligible for merit.
12/11/2013 12:26:00 AM
Why do you legitimize the testing process???
12/11/2013 08:20:00 AM
Don't be bitter because your not getting made. If you shine and cry and are over 500 on the list then your a moron. You wouldn't have been made anyway. Deal with it and study harder
"006/3rd watch! What in the hell is going on there? After working a few southside districts, this is hands down, the worst place I've ever been. From Sgt Mul***ex trying jam up any copper that misses a shave, or wearing black sneakers/
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Hey JR. that's what a watch commander is supposed to do, you newbies have no idea what it was like on this job, that AT&T commercial is this job with you new coppers.....Yea fucking shave and wear the correct shoes, have some PRIDE IN YOUR APPEARANCE after all 490 of your prior fellow officers died in this uniform, so stop your fucking crying and wear what your supposed to.... And put your fucking beat tag on, and buy a city sticker, back in the day the city sticker used to be a for sure day off....."
12/11/2013 07:23:00 AM
excellent observation, but....someone might feel (their opinion) that someone is trying to run a legitimate operation within an illegitimate and corrupt organization...city stickers, shoes, shaving, uniform stuff..all part of the rules....then look at the bigger picture: hiring, promotions, assignments, so-called "merit" promotions, salaries (raises?), the future of pensions...take a look at the political leadership in Chicago, Cook County (the courts, the jails, etc.)....as the former US Secretary of State testified in Congress, when questioned as to the facts and circumstances surrounding the attack and murder of 4 Americans in Banghazi, Libya....she said, "what difference does it make?" (a life lesson?) Is it possible that small minded people think about the little things, maybe do not see, or cannot deal with, the whole picture?
Anonymous said...
God help CPD if any of these 4 year wonders score high enough to secure a promotion at 6 years otj. CPD needs experienced leadership. Not these know-it-alls from this entitlement generation. I'm sorry but ten nickel bag arrests from traffic stops of non licensed drivers do not make you the "real Police" and a qualified Supervisor. Talk to any of the new Ppos lately? Most of them think they should be bosses and never plan on being the Police.
12/11/2013 07:03:00 AM
You sound like a wise old timer. NOT! Look, just because you have "time" on the job doesn't mean shit. I have met officers with 29 years on the job and some are dumb as shit. While some officers with 29 years on the job are smart. But in the majority of instances, I have found that the old timers are more stubborn and more complacent.
WOW...You got to love it! Furlough picks in 009. Im in there watching FTOs picking among themselves. Must be nice to work around the contract. I mean I knew about watch picks, but taking away spots from P.O.s working the streets....thats messed up! Got to love a district that does what it wants from everyone else!
Don't be bitter because your not getting made. If you shine and cry and are over 500 on the list then your a moron. You wouldn't have been made anyway. Deal with it and study harder
12/11/2013 06:36:00 PM
Again you legitimize the testing process. Why is this???
A piece of paper never stopped anyone from doing anything. A paper treaty didn't stop Hitler from invading the rest of Europe. The rules are for us, not the City. How many times did Phat Phil promote his pals? Not that some of them weren't good coppers but they didn't qualify under the rules. I was an OK police officer. I never got promoted on merit. The "rules" I was told. Finally I threw all my orders, law books, binders etc right in the garbage and stopped trying for promotion. The rest of my career was enjoyable after that.
12/11/2013 06:08:00 PM
A person in the know!!!
Anonymous said...
When is the next Detectives class. I've been waiting for YEARS now.
12/11/2013 04:30:00 PM
If you have to ask then you do not have a phone call or Chinaman.Feel free to take the next test but do not get your hopes up.
SCC:
NEW Lieutenant's Exam to be given in 2014.
Bernstein just sent out an email for his study group coming up in February.
Bernstein files FOIAs on the city to see what outfit is going to be giving the exam and he should have a pretty good idea off what kind of bullshit test will be administered.
Rumor is Part 2 of the test will be some sort of oral board.... I am not even going to waste my time.
The list does NOT have to be released before the new scores come out. There have been numerous promotions over the years where new scores were out and they promoted one last time off of the old list. Our own 1st Deputy made Lt off of an old list when we had our new scores!
To the kid complaining about supervisors nitpicking things like uniforms, etc. Kid, try this. Wear the proper uniform, shave before you go to work and lastly try doing your job. You will be amazed how doing what you are supposed to will make your life and your supervisor's life easier. While you are sitting in your parent's basement saying how full of shit I am, consider this. If this was McDonalds, you would have been fired in the first few days for doing what you do everyday at work here. So grow up, drop to your knees and be thankful you have a job that you don't deserve. Hell kid, you should try being the police for once, you may actually enjoy it. And no, telling BS war stories to your basement buddies doesn't count as being the police. When did the words Honor and Duty become dirty words on CPD?
Stuck in 006 but on 2nd watch and I feel sorry for those guys on the 3rd watch. The Lt (V.R.) has no respect for the kids and vets. He constantly belittles them and foolishly disciplines them all thru his weasel Sgt. If this watch is as stupid,lazy and useless as he says,maybe he should leave the safety of the station and deal with this hell hole of a place. Kids don't GET DOWN , learn from Old Timers eventually these scumbag bosses get what is coming to them.
To address the comments in 006, just ask coppers in 017 about this Lt and his off duty history.
Anonymous said...
Felicia Davis(ex-cop) named to head Dept of Buildings(DOB) Trying to figure out where she came from, and how.
Thanks,
DOB
12/11/2013 06:23:00 PM
Try putting Shallow had the end.
Remember this folks. McCarthy was merit his whole career. He only spent 5 years in a beat car. Don't get your hopes up and you won't be disappointed. He has bitten from the merit apple several times over. Don't be fooled into thinking he's on the up and up with the merit. He gets the call and he will do as he's told. Guaranteed.
Had to laugh when I saw the "McDrunky" campaign ticket calling for a clean slate at FLOP. Bunch of old FOP rip off artists and hucksters being sponsored by a lawyer who wants back in so he can raid the FOP henhouse (again). All the pictures taken at a law firm, by the way. FTW!
Not much better is the "Disability Dean" ticket, bought and paid for by another law firm that used to handle all FOP grievance work back when Disabled Dean was upstairs at FLOP. FLOP could not have paid more for worse results. But Angelo will bring them back b/c they are bankrolling his campaign.
Decisions, Decisions.
Good luck to all, I hope they make a bunch of sgts. I have uniforms to sell! So long boys and girls, 55 and out of here!
" And Sal does not give out a reciept for turning them in at tuition reimbursement"
Have him make a copy and have him time stamp it.
"cpd needs some new sergeants from the new test , the old list is dead , folks on that list do not remember anything about supervising , if they do they will be on the top of new sargent list"
That's why training is 5 weeks asshat. I hope what you wish on others happens to you! I pray you score under 300 wait 7 years the they tear down the list and you don't make it fuck head!
Education Supports Promotion
Through Saint Xavier University I have been involved in the undergraduate degree completion and graduate level MBA programs offered specifically for CPD officers and covered by the City’s tuition reimbursement program. I am impressed with CPD officers' commitment to self-improvement through education. As a former banker and now an instructor, I am impressed with the depth of business knowledge and understanding displayed by officers pursuing the MBA graduate degree program in classes I teach. I wonder why more officers do not take advantage of the educational benefit provided under their current union contract with the City. It is equivalent to a $20,000 per year bonus! If you wish to know more about the SXU graduate and undergraduate programs for the term starting in January, stop by the Training Academy on Wednesday, December 18, from noon until 4
WOW...You got to love it! Furlough picks in 009. Im in there watching FTOs picking among themselves. Must be nice to work around the contract. I mean I knew about watch picks, but taking away spots from P.O.s working the streets....thats messed up! Got to love a district that does what it wants from everyone else!
12/11/2013 07:06:00 PM
Ftos don't work the street like you hero? I'm not an fto or in 009 but I'm gonna guess your a tactical warrior or have less than 7 years on. Enjoy your shitty furlough crybaby
God help CPD if any of these 4 year wonders score high enough to secure a promotion at 6 years otj. CPD needs experienced leadership. Not these know-it-alls from this entitlement generation. I'm sorry but ten nickel bag arrests from traffic stops of non licensed drivers do not make you the "real Police" and a qualified Supervisor. Talk to any of the new Ppos lately? Most of them think they should be bosses and never plan on being the Police.
Sorry man, I do agree I like seeing older guys make it just for the fact that thy deserve it for putting up with the job for so long but it doesn't make them a good sgt... I've met lost of guys who have 20 plus years who are absolutely clueless and others who refuse how to do things the way they should be done theses days not the way they were done in the 80s and 90s.. Times change and this dept is a new place that will never be the same. You have to know how to operate in this new dept... I've got 28 years on. I'm done in 11 more months. I even admit I sometime don't know what the hell to do anymore with some things when it comes to technology and new units and notifications.. It's not the simple job we once enjoyed. If we slapped someone it wasn't even put in the reports because it wasn't a big deal... Now your doin paper forever. Let the kids have it.. It's their dept now. We lost years ago. The last good year of them actually letting us be the police was 99.. All downhill pretty steady after that. Good luck to all who take the test old and young
WOW...You got to love it! Furlough picks in 009. Im in there watching FTOs picking among themselves. Must be nice to work around the contract. I mean I knew about watch picks, but taking away spots from P.O.s working the streets....thats messed up! Got to love a district that does what it wants from everyone else!
Wrong, they are supposed to pick with every other P.O. They just did watch bids by themselves. Call FOP
Take this to Bank - All detective' will be merit like it is at the NYPD. Also there will be differant $3)grades of detectives like NYPD.
Gerry has had this idea since he came to the CPD. All the present dick's will be graded by their arrest' and award history.
Will start in the spring.
"I still laugh every time they
give promotional exam at all the suckers and dim wits that actually think they have a real chance."
What an idiot this guy is... As for me, no juice, no clout, just work and studied hard. 19 years on job. Legit Sgt. and Legit Lt. If you apply yourself, stop everything else in your life for a few months, you can do well on these tests and get promoted.
What a joke. 2nd Dist is up for grabs.
The Boss is busy. No I mean busy.
Can't keep his eyes on the paperwork long enough to get anything accomplished. I knew he wasn't ready.
Too much drama with the ladies
Let the young get promoted who cares. If you have over 20 years they can't do shit to hurt you. I've seen a few try only to end up in hot water for rocking the boat.
40 list coming out today for Monday the 16th. Lts the following week 23 Dec. Merry Christmas.
Wtf, PPOs get to pick furlos amongst themselves while those with 4-5 years get 3B/4As and PPOs get 7s.
12/11/2013 10:56:00 AM
WOW...You got to love it! Furlough picks in 009. Im in there watching FTOs picking among themselves. Must be nice to work around the contract. I mean I knew about watch picks, but taking away spots from P.O.s working the streets....thats messed up! Got to love a district that does what it wants from everyone else!
12/11/2013 07:06:00 PM
Wah wah wah!!! Deal with it, jag off! FTO's are getting shit on and everyone knows it's one of the most undesirable positions in the department. As for the PPO's...they are part of a unit separate from the district they work in. You must be the guy that bumps the new guy passing by in the hallway like high school. How about you take your ball and go home, Sally.
To the kid complaining about supervisors nitpicking things like uniforms, etc. Kid, try this. Wear the proper uniform, shave before you go to work
You must have a pertty mouth. How about giving us a fair contract and treating us like human beings. You white shirted goofs have the biggest ego's and for what. You retire and your a nobody. Try building morale. Make roll call fun. Pump your crew up to go and have fun. Congratulate their successes and treat them fair. You won't have to ask for numbers. They will do it automatically for not making them hate your fuckin guts! 75% of white shirt haven't a clue on how to motivate and make work fun. 75% of you white shirts have your heads so far up your own asses about who's ass to kiss that you cant' see how you are destroying a watch.
Oh my god no a supervisor telling you that you have to shave which is something you have do do!!!!! and the nerve of him to tell me to stop wearing sneaker that probably look like clown shoes... the horror. Its funny when its a Sgt that tells me to take pride in my appearance he's a jagoff, why dont you read up on policing and see the reason some cop killers chose certain police officers. Ill make it easy for you they said it was because the cop looked unprofessional his uniform looked sub par.
What an idiot this guy is... As for me, no juice, no clout, just work and studied hard. 19 years on job. Legit Sgt. and Legit Lt. If you apply yourself, stop everything else in your life for a few months, you can do well on these tests and get promoted.
12/12/2013 12:46:00 AM
This took place where??? Narnia?
Anonymous said...
"I still laugh every time they
give promotional exam at all the suckers and dim wits that actually think they have a real chance."
What an idiot this guy is... As for me, no juice, no clout, just work and studied hard. 19 years on job. Legit Sgt. and Legit Lt. If you apply yourself, stop everything else in your life for a few months, you can do well on these tests and get promoted.
12/12/2013 12:46:00 AM
First guy tells the truth.Second poster responding is giant juice baby and delusional.
cpd needs some new sergeants from the new test , the old list is dead , folks on that list do not remember anything about supervising , if they do they will be on the top of new sargent list
12/11/2013 05:29:00 PM
Hopefully you make it, then you can look at your new hat and learn how to spell Sergeant. FYI I am on the old list and scored under 300 so I think I deserve to make it. Now go thread your eyebrows and gel your hair douchebag.
Retired July 2012 after 27 years. It amazes me that we are still on first base on promotions. From the webester dict. "Merit Promotions" A system by which appointments and promotions in the civil service are based on competance rather than political favotitism. It seems the Dept. is confussed on the definition!!!
living in Lake Geneva and love it
D. Mertz
86-4B "ouch"
Be safe out there and tell your loved ones every day how much they are in your life.
MERTZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These kids didn't have the pleasure of knowing you in the academy.
1986 holy shit. You are old.
Merit is all BS.
Live long and prosper
raise the mandatory retirement age to 66 , I 'm 59 with 35 years on the job , on my 3rd wife , she's 40 and have a 2 year old . I'll stay as long as I damn want to , I work days and take all the special employment I can , summer furlough , never on medical or late for work , didn't take sgt test . I make more $ and like working days.
Sgt list to be released today. 40 starting Monday.
Lt's list next week.
Education Supports Promotion
Through Saint Xavier University I have been involved in the undergraduate degree completion and graduate level MBA programs offered specifically for CPD officers and covered by the City’s tuition reimbursement I wonder why more officers do not take advantage of the educational benefit provided under their current union contract with the City. It is equivalent to a $20,000 per year bonus!
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Because if your not clouted up, a kiss ass producer, or future sexy toy your run through the ringer with the program. Believe me, it's nice if your on a tac team and covered to go to class while everyone else has to take your assignments.
There is a dark underbelly to the program instructor.
When you are done with the Kool-Aid please pass the cup.
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What an idiot this guy is... As for me, no juice, no clout, just work and studied hard. 19 years on job. Legit Sgt. and Legit Lt. If you apply yourself, stop everything else in your life for a few months, you can do well on these tests and get promoted.
To the kid complaining about supervisors nitpicking things like uniforms, etc. Kid, try this. Wear the proper uniform, shave before you go to work and lastly try doing your job. You will be amazed how doing what you are supposed to will make your life and your supervisor's life easier. While you are sitting in your parent's basement saying how full of shit I am, consider this. If this was McDonalds, you would have been fired in the first few days for doing what you do everyday at work here. So grow up, drop to your knees and be thankful you have a job that you don't deserve. Hell kid, you should try being the police for once, you may actually enjoy it. And no, telling BS war stories to your basement buddies doesn't count as being the police. When did the words Honor and Duty become dirty words on CPD?
Leave the kid alone, you self righteous blue flavor cool aid drinker
Anonymous said...
Remember this folks. McCarthy was merit his whole career. He only spent 5 years in a beat car. Don't get your hopes up and you won't be disappointed. He has bitten from the merit apple several times over. Don't be fooled into thinking he's on the up and up with the merit. He gets the call and he will do as he's told. Guaranteed.
12/11/2013 09:26:00 PM
Gotta agree, just look at half his Captain picks- All phone calls - Murphy? Pigott? Lott? Watson?Please
Roytman AKA The Mad Russian is KGB. You heard it here first.
"... I am impressed with CPD officers' commitment to self-improvement through education. .."
Seriously?....impressed with how the city created diploma mills and extraordinary revenue flow for the university via mandatory education requirements for promotion maybe....would love to see breakdown of the amount of money spent for those tuitions which include books and accept deferred payment directly from city after grades are posted--which guarantees all officers get A --since they are not likely to collect 25% out of pocket for a lesser grade---whats the percentage of tuition dollars towards these programs versus places which don't include books or defer payment?
Take this to Bank - All detective' will be merit like it is at the NYPD. Also there will be differant $3)grades of detectives like NYPD.
Gerry has had this idea since he came to the CPD. All the present dick's will be graded by their arrest' and award history.
Will start in the spring.
12/12/2013 12:38:00 AM
If you believe this then you may also believe "big changes this Friday" and you heard it here first,..
"cpd needs some new sergeants from the new test , the old list is dead , folks on that list do not remember anything about supervising , if they do they will be on the top of new sargent list"
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Says the guy who can't even spell sergeant correctly... We're doomed because of morons like this...
""I do have the true numbers of how many are getting made.. Im not saying "you heard it here first" or its some big secret but next friday the list for a new class will come out. The list will be for a class of 45 new sgts. one last class from the current list will be made in April (tentative) for 80 sgts""
1512 2nd W, R U 2 listening ? ? ?
FTO's pick furloughs with other FTO's so they all won't be off all at once. Like sgt's pick with sgt's, Lt's pick with Lt's. FTO isn't exactly a separate rank but it doesn't effect any PO's, at least not the way we did it. FTO's picked just among FTO's. So what? That way they spread their furlough time off so every FTO was not off at the same time if they all had recruits. Big deal.
Like you said Sgts with Sgts, Lts with Lts. FTOs are P.O.s not supervisors. They should pick pick with everyone else. Now you got FTOs off in the summer when you need them most. Go sell that B.S. somewhere else. Unfair.....once again someone hooking someone else up and other getting denied time and furlough extensions. Someone call the FOP.
""FYI I am on the old list and scored under 300 so I think I deserve to make it""
I'm Good Enough, I'm Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like Me!
Earned, not deserved.
why dont you read up on policing and see the reason some cop killers chose certain police officers. Ill make it easy for you they said it was because the cop looked unprofessional his uniform looked sub par.
Hey hair gels, this guys 100% correct...Google it... They interviewed cop killers. Not that anyone can't step in the shit, but appearance does matter to these guys. "Does your appearance command respect?"
Somebody please read the article in that free cop magazine at the station with Gerry on the cover....its comical...especially how his promotions of merit are people the rank and file respect....please stop..... especially his commander picks.....my lord...my stomach hurts....
D. Mertz
86-4B "ouch
Waddup, Mertz! Worked with you in Narcotics, and the pleasure was all mine. Take care, brother.
If you have no clout or not friends with any bosses or a kiss ass, how can one be put in for a merit spot?
You must have a pertty mouth. How about giving us a fair contract and treating us like human beings. You white shirted goofs have the biggest ego's and for what. You retire and your a nobody. Try building morale. Make roll call fun. Pump your crew up to go and have fun. Congratulate their successes and treat them fair. You won't have to ask for numbers. They will do it automatically for not making them hate your fuckin guts! 75% of white shirt haven't a clue on how to motivate and make work fun. 75% of you white shirts have your heads so far up your own asses about who's ass to kiss that you cant' see how you are destroying a watch.
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What I have learned Junior, is that you can't motivate a do nothing lazy piece of shit. You had no intention of being the police, this was just the best paying job you could get with your pathetic work history. Thank goodness the city lowered the standards so you could slide in. Do you really want motivation? Would a rousing speech at roll call suddenly make you the "real police"? I doubt it, this like everything in your bag of excuses is just another reason not to do your job. I know you, you are the lazy POS that comes in late and wants to leave early after doing nothing all day. You feel that you are entitled to it just because you showed up to work. You bitch and moan about everything while doing nothing. So why exactly should anybody waste their time on you? And what the fuck does you supervisor have to do with your contract? Dumbass. Why don't you show me how wrong I am by quitting and working in the private sector, I am sure your impressive resume and superior work ethic will guarantee your success, you might even get that rah rah motivational speech you so desperately need to get you to work.
D. Mertz = Best HRI. 93-2D
BIG changes today ....
What I have learned, Boss, is what a petty, small-minded, self-aggrandizing blow hard and pathetic excuse for a supervisor you are, and how it only serves to tell those around you the truth about what a one-way self serving big head you always were back when you were cutting corners as a cop.
You will be gone and forgotten like the rest of the idiots that thought so highly of themselves unless someone's telling their favorite story about you being a walkng, talking pile of shit for the sake of a good laugh at your expense.
we all know who you are because we all know you, you're in every roll call during one of the lowest points in this department, adding nothing but another reason to tune you out with a 10 -4... whatever you say.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"... I am impressed with CPD officers' commitment to self-improvement through education. .."
Seriously?....impressed with how the city created diploma mills and extraordinary revenue flow for the university via mandatory education requirements for promotion maybe....would love to see breakdown of the amount of money spent for those tuitions which include books and accept deferred payment directly from city after grades are posted--which guarantees all officers get A --since they are not likely to collect 25% out of pocket for a lesser grade---whats the percentage of tuition dollars towards these programs versus places which don't include books or defer payment?
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Spot on! I am working on a degree from a very well respected program. The school collects all the money upfront. If I do not earn an A (it is a real school and highly competitive), then I pay the difference.If the semester requires three classes, then I have to cover one of the classes. And I have to wait 5 or 6 months to get reimbursed for the part that the city is paying for. But at least I am not wasting my time with a diploma mill.
St Xaviers MBA program is a joke. How is it that everyone on the dept graduates from that program with honors? Get a real degree.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
FTO's pick furloughs with other FTO's so they all won't be off all at once. Like sgt's pick with sgt's, Lt's pick with Lt's. FTO isn't exactly a separate rank but it doesn't effect any PO's, at least not the way we did it. FTO's picked just among FTO's. So what? That way they spread their furlough time off so every FTO was not off at the same time if they all had recruits. Big deal.
Like you said Sgts with Sgts, Lts with Lts. FTOs are P.O.s not supervisors. They should pick pick with everyone else. Now you got FTOs off in the summer when you need them most. Go sell that B.S. somewhere else. Unfair.....once again someone hooking someone else up and other getting denied time and furlough extensions. Someone call the FOP.
12/12/2013 03:31:00 PM
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Call Rich Aguliar at FOP he is an FTO and if you are lucky he will return your call in 2115. Remember he is the most honest man alive!
To 9:29 p.m. Hey Paul how many campaigns are you and your posse of FOP lawyers bankrolling? Mike and Bill for sure cover your bases you and your rent money depend on it.
They promoted 244 sergeants off the list in seven years. That's less than 35 a year. And of course 0 promotions this year. That is shameful, considering they advertise that there are 12, 000 of us. We work for a hopeless, unprofessional, and pathetic department.
we all know who you are because we all know you, you're in every roll call during one of the lowest points in this department, adding nothing but another reason to tune you out with a 10 -4... whatever you say
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By the junior, how did you do on part one of the sgt's test? I always hope that guys like you actually make sgt because it would be so funny. What would you do, lead by example? You don't change from being a dogass to a super duper working supervisor. No, you would do the same BS only now you will be bitching about the guys that you have to supervise. I noticed that you never deny being a useless dogass, you just keep blaming your supervisors for all your problems. Does your sgt really have that much influence in your life? Junior, check your diaper and then man up. You decide the kind of police officer you want to be, not your supervisor. Time to start looking inward with the hard questions, because blaming others for your shortcomings isn't going to make things any better for yourself.
Anonymous said...
If you have no clout or not friends with any bosses or a kiss ass, how can one be put in for a merit spot?
12/12/2013 06:58:00 PM
Large brown envelope with $10k in it.
What an idiot this guy is... As for me, no juice, no clout, just work and studied hard. 19 years on job. Legit Sgt. and Legit Lt. If you apply yourself, stop everything else in your life for a few months, you can do well on these tests and get promoted.
12/12/2013 09:55:00 AM
Sure and Sanata ClaUse and the EASTER bUNNY BOTH L;OST THIER HEALTH INSURANCE DUE TO oBAMACARE.
made sgt a few years ago , love have the responsibility of the useless rank of captain /xo
I did that job as watch secretary before I made sergeant
about time , let's reduce that lt rank next
BIG changes on monday!
St Xaviers MBA program is a joke. How is it that everyone on the dept graduates from that program with honors? Get a real degree.
12/13/2013 05:41:00 PM
You must be quite jealous.
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