Remember, Police Are the Problem
At least, one of the problems.
But this chart isn't a problem at all (the chart is over 18 months old, but more pertinent than ever):
But this chart isn't a problem at all (the chart is over 18 months old, but more pertinent than ever):
- In 1991, Chicago aldermen became eligible for a pension based on up to 80 percent of their salary, with maximum benefits awarded after 20 years of service. It’s a more generous plan than other city employees receive, even though membership in City Council is a part-time job. The costs are just now beginning to kick in as salaries increase and long-serving aldermen retire.
At the link is a chart of 21 retired aldercreatures who are drawing pensions, the top three that are greater than that which a 30-year police officer on active duty. The next eleven do better while retired than an active 25-year vet.
And all that is for what is listed as a part-time job. More than a copper who is still putting on the badge, uniform and gun after 25 or 30 years. But screwing these guys is going to fix everything?
And all that is for what is listed as a part-time job. More than a copper who is still putting on the badge, uniform and gun after 25 or 30 years. But screwing these guys is going to fix everything?
Labels: pension
posted by SCC at 12:09 AM
109 Comments:
If the police are the problem then why do thousands of people call 911 for police service every day? And why do people flag down cops all the time for police service(robberies, car accidents, directions, etc.)?
If the police are the problem, then the people of this city sure as hell don't mind being around the problem.
you are correct. those darn police just refuse to ask for more money so this problem wouldn't surface!
311 can be used to request any city service, reduce aldercreatures form 50 to 20
that's more than new York and la
I don't know how you guys and gals can continue doing your job getting screwed all the time. Then you lock them up and they are back on the street.
Jackson is on parole for a 2007 felony armed robbery and aggravated battery with a firearm conviction, according to Park.
An Englewood man was ordered held without bail Sunday after he allegedly beat, sexually assaulted and threatened to kill his pregnant ex-girlfriend before going on to assault the police officers who tried to arrest him
He was also convicted of felony armed robbery in 2000 and unlawful use of a weapon by a felon in 2006, Park said.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-chicago-crime-battery-sexual-assault-20131208,0,2502796.story
Just so you know you are appreciated.
This makes me want to throw up. And I'm not even drinking.
80% for 20 years of service? WHY can't we get that? They don't even work full time! What the hell!
They can get all that, but we are not even certain if we will HAVE a pension when we retire...
Dear SCC,... I don't know for sure, but I think this is something other coppers might want to hear about, it might bring a smile. You can place it where you want if you decide to share it, or just laugh about it as an another example of stupidity on behalf of our lack of leadership....the other day I received in the mail a suitable for framing certificate, awarded to Lawrence M. Wolfer for my 30 years of service (010) to the citizens of Chicago and the C.P.D. It was signed by the mayor and the superintendent of C.P.D. It's pretty nice looking and I will keep it. I'm glad for my family that I'm still alive, as I retired on 15-Jan-2012, almost two years ago, and it might have been a wee bit upsetting to my family if I were no longer here on earth. Way to go C.P.D. I guess better late than never....fucking assholes
hello media...hello, anyone there
Obvious Pension inequality. If only Obama knew about this, he would fix it. Just like he fixed healthcare inequality.
80/20 for part time and gets paid more than me? That's bullshit!!!!! We have to work 29.1 day for 80%
Reduce the head count for alderman, this city don't need all those alderman. Most of them are useless!!!
So why don't we hear that shill piece of crap Lawrence Msall bitching that these pensions are "unsustainable?" That's all I hear out of that big two faced pussy, that city workers are unsustainable. He never said shit about Daley's unsound business practices or Daley and Emanuel failure to fund the pensions, only that paying us what was promised in "unsustainable." Fucking lard assed piece of garbage.
Tom Allen is also a circuit court judge: ALLEN THOMAS R CIRCUIT COURT JUDGES JUDGE CIRCUIT COURT Cook $180,979.87
So $88k from pension and $180 for judge. Not a bad gig. AND he's contributing to a judicial pension, too.
While Military COP deployed Cant pay into the Pension until reinstated! What A travesty
My friend has sent a letter to pay into his pension but Pension Board won't even acknowledge the letter.
Gee a deployed cop trying to pay you'd think the Pension Board could use the funds???
Semper Fi
Yesterday where I live at around Irving Park & Harlem, we got about two to three inches of snow. I live on the main street on Irving Park. I did not see a single snow plow until like 8:30 PM. The streets were horrendous. Are we living in a third world country? I noticed that Norridge and other suburbs had their snow plows out. But not Chicago.
Does anyone know if they are going to make another sgt. class soon? I really hope they make another sgt. class. What a wonderful Christmas present that would be for me and my family! I worked very hard to get the score I got. My score belongs to me and my family who made tremendous sacrifices. For those who wish to tear me down, you are what is wrong with this department. What is extremely disheartening to me is that I have seen the "merit picks" basically leap over me. Just because they have political juice. That is a very hard pill to swallow. But I will continue to press on and maintain a happy go lucky attitude. Too many people become permanently bitter. Don't be that person.
Masters and Hamilton Luv it! :)!
And KB too ALL CPD all considered LEOs on Cook County
What percentage can I collect after 20 years of service as a police officer?
Lets see, I retired from the military at the E8 pay grade after 22 years and I get 24,000.00 per year. Oh yeah, I now have to pay for medical (cost is reduced but still not cheap) and have no dental coverage. This is criminal!
We should knock down the alderman to 25 and make it a full time job. How the hell can you run a city part-time?
and we can't use this at the negotiation table? or is there anyway that we can change that statute of law for them.oh I'm sure cost a lot of our money to do so.
Keep voting Dummycrat idiots. HAHAHAHAHA!
Guaranteed, 19th ward residents will overwhelmingly re-elect Hurley, Cunningham, and the alderman in the next election, no matter how much they vent on this board or others about the pensions
Hmmmm, I wonder what kind of a COLA these idiots receive? A better question, will Rahm go after their pensions too??
Yeah, didn't think so.
So is RE going to "fix" the aldermans' pensions too so it's all fair? Amazing how Michael Madigan left the judges out so they can be fair if it goes to the courts. If a judge is fair and impartial then what would it matter? Furthermore if there is a conflict of interest with judges then send it the USSC and let those justices decide. Also why didn't MM include the legislature in the rework of the pension mess since they are part of it and the ones who causes it?
I don't know but I am just saying that I don't think it's a good idea to tamper with pensions of hard working coppers and fireman especially when cops carry guns and all. Just making a point.
The Brad Woods test prep program needs to be called out. I spent $200 extra for their materials. What did I get in return? I got a total of 20 pages in their first class session. Plus the three hours they spent on Saturday was a complete waste. A complete waste. They didn't even fucking teach anything or go over any material. So disappointed.
Do you really think any of these fools are going to cut their own throats and reduce their benefits?????
It is so much easier to point the finger at us.
80/20 for part time and gets paid more than me? That's bullshit!!!!! We have to work 29.1 day for 80%
. . . If you're sticking around for 80%, you might as well leave now. We don't attain 80%, ever.
Anonymous said...
80/20 for part time and gets paid more than me? That's bullshit!!!!! We have to work 29.1 day for 80%
Reduce the head count for alderman, this city don't need all those alderman. Most of them are useless!!!
12/09/2013 03:33:00 AM
New York City has 51 alderman for over 8 million residents!
This pension bill was supported by all of the police unions ( I should know) and it was called the Omnibus Pension Bill which was pushed by Madigan. Madigan refused to endorse or move forward a 100 dollar a month increase for police widows unless he got union support for his major pension bill. And, as I recall this bill also established pensions for many other boards and commissions, just another part of the patronage system of Illinois.
If you make the laws wouldn't you give yourself that kind of deal. Just like Illinois legislators never complained about there own pension problem because there isn't one for them. And it's legal.
If Obama had a son and the son had a pension, it would look like the alderman´s pension.
This city is a toilet.
These alderspersons get paid for what they know, not what they do.
They don't do a damm thing and they
know how to get themselves re-elected each and every election and
how to enrich themselves, their
families and friends. And it is
sickening that they get paid all that money just to sit around and
look important and support the
mayor and kiss his behind and okay
his pet projects.
Anonymous said...
Tom Allen is also a circuit court judge: ALLEN THOMAS R CIRCUIT COURT JUDGES JUDGE CIRCUIT COURT Cook $180,979.87
So $88k from pension and $180 for judge. Not a bad gig. AND he's contributing to a judicial pension, too.
12/09/2013 05:25:00 AM
Remember he did it just months before a law changed regarding the pension. If I remember correctly he quit being an alderman or didn't run for reelection He was appointed to the bench. Timing was perfect
From a newspaper article
That post will give Allen a nearly 62 percent pay raise - from $110,556-a-year as an alderman to $178,835 as a judge.
The timing of Allen's appointment will ultimately ensure a higher judicial pension. On Jan. 1, pension reforms are scheduled to take effect for new state employees, raising to 67 the age for retirement with full benefits and basing benefits on an eight-year average of pay rather than four.
Allen, 58, replaces Judge Aurelia Pucinski, who was elected Tuesday to the Illinois Appellate Court.
Ok Ok OKAY!
Let's cut the bullshit, shall we?
Chicago's civic/business community, the kleptocratic hopelessly incompetent and corrupt criminal/political class along with the ever complicit knee-walking media have been beating the fuck out of the "Chicago is doomed unless you Cops share the sacrifice and take this combination bald-head haircut & ass-fucking" drum incessantly.
Well... Since they realized RMD had destroyed this city playing "Hide Da Money & Steal It" for 20+ years.
Funny... Before the wheels came off, Rauner, Msall and the rest of the Gold Coast/North Shore cocktail party & political fundraiser set who make up the majority of the "Inner Party Rolodex" weren't saying shit about the stealing Daley was doing.
Corrupt, amoral sons of bitches were in the fucking cookie jar up to their elbows... Unindicted co-conspirators and all that.
OK... So they manage to give Policemen the bald-head haircut & ass-fucking.
THEN WHAT?
Will the overall quality of life improve in Chicago? Nope.
Will the citizenry be able to move about on the public way safely? Nope.
Will the tales of horror emanating from Harrison, Gresham, Pullman, Grand Crossing etc., magically go away if The Police were to take the bald-head haircut & ass-fucking for the misappropriation of untold BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TAXPAYER TREASURE by the previous and current mayoral administrations?
Hell Muthafuckin' No it won't stop! But everybody seems to have co-signed on further stealing from Policemen as the cure for all that ails this city.
This business of condemning and punishing The Police makes great political theater.
It distracts from the deeper problems afflicting this city.
Problems for which these obviously smart, talented and wealthy men who ride the Gold Coast/North Shore cocktail party and fundraiser circuit have abso-fucking-lutely NO ANSWERS TO!
But they need to keep the public riled up about the "unsustainable early retirement and sweet pensions of those greedy cops."
Fucking over The Police will not help this city because the powers that be have proven they have no stomach to confront the real problems at hand.
Beating on The Police is easy because the powers that be have erected firewalls to prevent The Police from taking the appropriate actions to try and protect themselves and their families from harm.
As it is? Throughout history, reasonable men have drawn blood for such repeated disrespect and outrages.
"You Cops had better stop that talk about fighting back or else!"
And, what about their healthcare?
Is it free for them?
Paid by the taxpayers?
And, does it include dental and eye care? Which would make it even more expensive.
Hey 3:30 AM. It's 75% NOT 80% for CPD. Obviously you're not a copper you lil twit. Go rub one out in mom's basement DICKHEAD!
The war against The Chicago Police and their concerns has been going for quite some time now.
To know where The Policeman stands in the eyes of the public, all you have to do is read the on-line commentary of all the media outlets in Chicago.
The Police are now the enemy...
The hatred, disdain and disrespect are palpable.
We reckon since the public is so free and open about their hatred of The Police, they will fully embrace all those things that The Police are supposed to stop.
Right?
And then you have... THIS:
"We're so sick of all the accolades being given to the cops..."
This and variations thereof have been popping up regularly.
That sound you heard was society turning it's collective backs on the cares and concerns of The Policeman.
Little do they know, that at the end of the day, THEIR cares and concerns are ultimately tied to those of Policemen.
To paraphrase the current occupant of the Oval Office...
Policemen are people too.
>Pfffft!<
Who are we kidding?
The joyful haters are self-boning about how little of a fuck they give about Policemen and the fate of Policing in this city.
Fine... Make The Police go away and let the current insanity run its course.
That's the ultimate goal, right?
Making the good old-fashioned Patrolmen go away and re-booting what Police and Policing actually are?
The Police are the enemy.
Viva Hate...
Vote Out All Democrats. Save the shirt on your Back.
Thieves is what they are! Don't forget they also get city paid deluxe healthcare family plan for life 100% city (taxpayer paid) and they get hundreds of thousands of taxpayers money for huge staff and office expense! Why do we still have d-3 security details assigned o city treasurer? Hdo lives on, unlimited overtime, sergeants pension taking more from the fund!
OT: But kinda keeping track of the guy whom you guys call MR. 10G. He has won 69 Big ones in last 2 weeks. Sure Vegas is comping him for everything-women included. Who does he like tonite in Bears game? The person picks the winners. OVER in Det game in a blizzard? Good job sir. Enjoy the drinks and CAT in Vegas.
Larry Msall definitely looks like a BIG FAT TURD I just blew into the toilet. That thing also resembles Larry's fuckin brain.
"Anonymous said...
80/20 for part time and gets paid more than me? That's bullshit!!!!! We have to work 29.1 day for 80%
Reduce the head count for alderman, this city don't need all those alderman. Most of them are useless!!!
12/09/2013 03:33:00 AM"
To the above poster: You are everything that is wrong with this job! You don't even know how much your max pension amount is!! Our maximum pension at 29 years + 1 day is 75% NOT 80%!! And Rahm wants that 75% reduced to 70%! You dumbass young guys better start paying attention...all of this pension shit is affecting YOUR retirement as well. Your 5 years in the "ghetto" are going to turn into 25 years in the blink of an eye and then you will be wondering where that "80% pension" went!! Hey Youngblood, attention to detail is probably the most important aspect of this job, so do everyone a favor and WAKE THE FUCK UP!
Once again the elite political class of Chicago reveal themselves as the thieving s.o.b's they are. Does anyone know what level of funding their pension system is at?? I'm willing to bet that they correctly funded their pension!!. I propose that if our (Police) pension is in anyway diminished, so should their pension. If their system is funded at 80% or higher, a portion of it should be moved into the underfunded pension systems of Chicago to stablize them. It's only fair, this is exactly what these assholes have done to our pension, take money out to pay for those "feel good programs" or " For the Children programs" that these fucking hack sob's have done to us over the past 20 yrs plus. Politicians should not even be eligible for a pension for a PART TIME JOB!! This City and State have committed fraud and yet no one cares, not the Illinois Attorney General, not the feds, NOBODY, so the question is " What happens when we,(Police, Fireman, Teachers, ETC.),also stop caring? Politicians should consider that reality! If you don't know your history, it will repeat itself! What we have here is taxation without balanced representation, pure and simple! Revolutions have started over less!!!!!!!
Amazing how Chicago Democrats can rape us in Taxes, steal by the minute, cause the City to go broke, then blame it on everyone else, while still trying tk get at what little wealth the Middle Class Taxpayers still have, like Property, Pensions and Savings. They won't rest unyil they have it ALL, unless they're voted out, which may not even be possible anymore, die to rigged Elections, like the one in 2012.
Any Cop who works hard anymore, or sticks his neck out for the average ungrateful citizen, or bullshitter Boss who just wants to look good to the Higher-Ups, is truly an imbecile
Remember that Public Employee Unions are the cause of all this. Teachers, Police and Firefighters are among the biggest leaches of Hard Earned Tax Dollars.
(SARCASM)
Daley won elections by landslide each and every time. The media fueled each run by telling people no one else was qualified to run against him. We all got screwed.
Mysal lives in Oak Park and wants to fix our pension. State legislators get 85 percent with a 3 percent compound COLA after 20 years. You think they fixed that.
These guys are going to fix it so that they get paid, screw everybody else.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
80/20 for part time and gets paid more than me? That's bullshit!!!!! We have to work 29.1 day for 80%
Reduce the head count for alderman, this city don't need all those alderman. Most of them are useless!!!
12/09/2013 03:33:00 AM
You don't work CPD, then. We never get to 80%.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So why don't we hear that shill piece of crap Lawrence Msall bitching that these pensions are "unsustainable?" That's all I hear out of that big two faced pussy, that city workers are unsustainable. He never said shit about Daley's unsound business practices or Daley and Emanuel failure to fund the pensions, only that paying us what was promised in "unsustainable." Fucking lard assed piece of garbage.
12/09/2013 05:04:00 AM
I'm no fan of the man, but yes he did publicly attack Richie M. Daley's pension grab and the way he snuck around to get himself another pension.
SCC,
Our FOP is useless. Organize a march on City Hall. I'm sure the firemen would want in.
80/20 for part time and gets paid more than me? That's bullshit!!!!! We have to work 29.1 day for 80%
Reduce the head count for alderman, this city don't need all those alderman. Most of them are useless!
When did we start getting 80% :)
Anonymous said...
Dear SCC,... I don't know for sure, but I think this is something other coppers might want to hear about, it might bring a smile. You can place it where you want if you decide to share it, or just laugh about it as an another example of stupidity on behalf of our lack of leadership....the other day I received in the mail a suitable for framing certificate, awarded to Lawrence M. Wolfer for my 30 years of service (010) to the citizens of Chicago and the C.P.D. It was signed by the mayor and the superintendent of C.P.D. It's pretty nice looking and I will keep it. I'm glad for my family that I'm still alive, as I retired on 15-Jan-2012, almost two years ago, and it might have been a wee bit upsetting to my family if I were no longer here on earth. Way to go C.P.D. I guess better late than never....fucking assholes
12/09/2013 02:31:00 AM
Hey Larry,
I don't think your anonymous anymore.
Love, Timmy!
I just telephoned The Civic Federation. You know, the one headed by Mr. Lawrence Msall. The unofficial spokesperson for the ruling elite. I talked to a researcher. She couldn't explain to me why they haven't criticized King Richard Daley's rule when he mismanaged Chicago's finances. They couldn't explain to me with credibility why they are not critical of what is going on currently in our city or state. They are a joke. I give props to Ben Jovarsky and the Chicago Reader. If there is a true newspaper and true investigative journalists, it is them.
why shouldn't the aldermen take care of themselves?
Rahm got $18M for 1.5 years work after he got out of office.
It's all on the up and up comrade.
Helen Shiller must be so proud of herself -- fucking up an entire section of the city over 20 years time, and then gets to suck on the city's pension teats to the tune of 100k a year.
What a fucked up shithole this city is!
For all of you gung ho super cops, wake up. Wake the fuck up. Wake the fuck up.
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/09/21835238-nearly-20-la-sheriffs-deputies-to-be-charged-in-corruption-inmate-abuse-probe?lite
TO: 80/20 for part time and gets paid more than me? That's bullshit!!!!! We have to work 29.1 day for 80%
Reduce the head count for alderman, this city don't need all those alderman. Most of them are useless!!!
Sorry, we can never get 80%, 75% is our max
Will ever unite? We along with fire need a protest march hey flop Mikey I know your making huge bucks and are acting as king but come on your doing nothing! Any contract updates? How's billy? Your a ruthless kid mike and karma is a bitch!
The problem with the scum politicians getting big fat sweet undeserved unrealistic deals is they keep getting elected so why would they fear the public? They can vote themselves all kinds of fat $$$ deals because there are no reprocussions.
What percentage can I collect after 20 years of service as a police officer?
12/09/2013 06:16:00 AM
Go away troll.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
For all of you gung ho super cops, wake up. Wake the fuck up. Wake the fuck up.
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/09/21835238-nearly-20-la-sheriffs-deputies-to-be-charged-in-corruption-inmate-abuse-probe?lite
12/09/2013 03:10:00 PM
Hey salty bitter dog, who uses this as an excuse not to work. WTF does this have to do with CPD and "hard chargers"?
Now continue to sit in your car and put blinders on and tell the younger guys coming on how you used to do it all. Another big talker with some "time" on. I have time on and a tour too. Just don't do anything stupid, it's really not that hard
I just got an email from CPS HR. The company that is handling our test results. They told me that in TEN BUSINESS DAYS I should have my test results. Ten fucking business days? What a joke.
TERM LIMITS!!!
--No Cop Here
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: But kinda keeping track of the guy whom you guys call MR. 10G. He has won 69 Big ones in last 2 weeks. Sure Vegas is comping him for everything-women included. Who does he like tonite in Bears game? The person picks the winners. OVER in Det game in a blizzard? Good job sir. Enjoy the drinks and CAT in Vegas.
12/09/2013 11:40:00 AM
Oh, yes. Take the word of someone who posts anonymously on a public blog about how successful they are betting on sports. Hey, I got a bridge to sell you, too...
Need a winner tonight mr 10g. Any advice my man
remember three little words.....LET EM GO! let em fend for themselves for awhile!MAYBE THEY WILL REALIZE THEY NEED THE POLICE!
"Iron Mike" is going in2 The Hall of Fame & his number is being retired as well.
That's a tough man
I was a wee bit confused cuz of the similarities b'tween Ditka & the real "Iron Mike" former Capt/XO in Belmont.
Striking similarities. Inspector Mike R is a tough guy, rite?
He's not afraid to look U in the eye, screw a bike team this summer(5 day work week), and that grueling work schedule of 20 hours a week w/a take home car.
The two have soooo much in common. One is a legend in his career. The other "Iron Mike" is legend in his own mind....depending on what psych meds he's on.
Coach, congrats again. "Iron Mike", I'm so sorry U have to look at U'r self in the mirror. I wouldn't wish Belmont Mike's reflection back on anyone.
Cheers
(Ot) anyone remember quite awhile ago when daleys guys were dumped they filed a lawsuit to get d-3 pay restored did they get it? If so does that also mean they get d-3 pension? Probably yes another draw from our underfunded pension fund! Why when you work as exempt or security specialist are you entitled to a huge pension increase? Why not you get pension based on civil service rank? You still make the big pay with unlimited overtime but you can't suck more from pension fund! Hello Mikey you still asleep? Wake up!
09, 0930hrs : Too Funny!
Anonymous said...
80/20 for part time and gets paid more than me? That's bullshit!!!!! We have to work 29.1 day for 80%
Reduce the head count for alderman, this city don't need all those alderman. Most of them are useless!!!
12/09/2013 03:33:00 AM
New York City has 51 alderman for over 8 million residents!
12/09/2013 09:08:00 AM
Have a conversation with Alderwoman Emma Mitts and tell me she isn't a waste of taxpayer money. Honest to God you will want to throw your hands up in the air.
To be fair, there are probably worse ones. At least she is too dense to steal a whole lot. Start the revolution. Cut the City Council down to 17. If nothing else, there will less to prosecute.
I just got this email from the company that is handling our test results. They are going to mail out the test results within the next ten business days. Yes, next ten business days. Here is the exact email I got from them:
· Exam Results - City of Chicago Police Sergeant Written Examination
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12/09/13
To: xxxxxxxx@gmail.com
IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING YOUR POLICE SERGEANT EXAM RESULTS
Taleo Number: 123456789
Dear JOHN Q PUBLIC,
This e-mail serves as notification that a hard copy letter containing your test results from the October 26, 2013 City of Chicago Police Sergeant Written Examination will be mailed via US Postal Service to your address within the next 10 business days. Please be aware that the notice will be sent by CPS Human Resource Services on behalf of the City of Chicago.
The letter will be sent to your address of record, which is:
1234 NORTH MAIN STREET
CHICAGO, ILLINOIS 60611
If that is not your current address, please IMMEDIATELY contact the City of Chicago, Department of Human Resources via e-mail at police-application@cityofchicago.org providing your updated mailing address.
All the more reason to ticket aldermen and their staff.
Keep working VRI dumb asses. We have no leverage on anything. As usual cops piss away every good opportunity. How's that free whopper taste? Oh yeah you screwed that up too. So pay up.
Ask Mark and Billy boy, about the two hindred thousand over payment, to Tim Fallon's cousin for the Jon Burge case. Somebody should be sitting next to Polahusky, from the Sgts. union.
Does anyone know when we get paid for NATO 6 or 7 workday? Just wondering.
How about Judges pensions, talk about scared cows....
To the person asking about SGTS. CLASS. They are supposed to make 80, I don't know when, but I would hope by the end of the year, to use 2013 money. Good Luck, I'm recently retired!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The Brad Woods test prep program needs to be called out. I spent $200 extra for their materials. What did I get in return? I got a total of 20 pages in their first class session. Plus the three hours they spent on Saturday was a complete waste. A complete waste. They didn't even fucking teach anything or go over any material. So disappointed.
12/09/2013 08:05:00 AM
Bernstein we get it already. They provide a study group at a reasonable fee. You lost me when you didn't even change your beef you just constantly cut and paste the same post. Come on, I would expect something better than a guy who can make 2 million bucks off of coppers from Chicago.
P.S. If you were actually in the course you wold know the materials were not $200.00.
I see that the Brad Woods group has the class not to be slinging mud on the blog. Stay Classy Bernstein and Associates oh that's right you recently changed your name to Bernstein Test Prep sounds familiar?????? Imitation is highest form of flattery..
We need a unit within the police department with no political ties to investigate politicans. The aldercreaters think they run the police dept. Wtf, we have to notify them in shooting incidents or other violent crimes committed in their wards. They are not the police, f##k them. We need to investigate them. We are the only metropolitan city who needs city counsel approval for any type or police promotion or hiring. They are controlling us and our brass are letting them.
SCC, where is this "police are the problem" quote from ?
It seems everyone wants to complain that our Union doesn't address this and they are right. Unfortunately they are toothless, we NEED to stand together and eliminate ALL revenue coming in.
Ot - was out in yesterday's snow storm from 2-8 pm. Chicago main streets were deplorable. Didn't see any city snow trucks. Expressways were too but at least the state trucks were out. Our side street still has not been salted. Read in the Times this morning that the city did not deploy all the snow removal trucks. Why the hell not? If they handled this small storm so badly, I can hardly wait for a bigger snow. Maybe that's what it will take to get this smart ass out of city hall. So sick of our smug twit of a mayor. He was probably too busy dancing with the snow flakes to care about the roads.
Dorothy Tillman gets 88G?
Wasn't that Coleman chick found guilty of something?
Help me out here!
Pay attention knucklehead....the "police are the problem" quote ....wasn't a quote at all. If you're not up-to-date with news and/or don't know how to read between the lines then just move along!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How about Judges pensions, talk about scared cows....
12/09/2013 08:57:00 PM
Sacred.
Not scared.
Sacred.
80/20 for part time and gets paid more than me? That's bullshit!!!!! We have to work 29.1 day for 80%
Reduce the head count for alderman, this city don't need all those alderman. Most of them are useless!!!
Where do you work that you get 80% after 29 and a day?
Have a conversation with Alderwoman Emma Mitts and tell me she isn't a waste of taxpayer money. Honest to God you will want to throw your hands up in the air.
To be fair, there are probably worse ones. At least she is too dense to steal a whole lot. Start the revolution. Cut the City Council down to 17. If nothing else, there will less to prosecute.
12/09/2013 07:36:00 PM
Her AND former state senator Annazette Collins. Both of them frightened me. The south side has its status quo politicos but we usually like when they know how to speak just a tad.
Anonymous said...
80/20 for part time and gets paid more than me? That's bullshit!!!!! We have to work 29.1 day for 80%
Reduce the head count for alderman, this city don't need all those alderman. Most of them are useless!!!
12/09/2013 03:33:00 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What Dept do you work for,
"29.1 day for 80%"
It's 29 and a day for 75% NOT 80%!
Now I see you are extra pissed off!
Pension reform=residency reform
Why are you guys you fighting pension reform? Yes, you will get less, but that is better than the NOTHING you will get if everything is left as is. See Debtroit. How many of you plan on leaving the state when you retire? Who will be left to pay taxes in this state? Exactly. The state is fucked big time. By waiting/ fighting to address these issues it will only be worse in the future.
Not a cop, but sympathetic to your plight
Does anyone know when we get paid for NATO 6 or 7 workday? Just wondering.
When they feel like paying us, that's when!
Keep working VRI dumb asses. We have no leverage on anything. As usual cops piss away every good opportunity. How's that free whopper taste? Oh yeah you screwed that up too. So pay up.
Please explain why working VRI has anything to do with leverage and how are we pissing away a good opportunity?
As far as I'm concerned, making time and one-half is a good opportunity. A good opportunity to pay off those credit card bills or to pay for little Billy's catholic school tuition. Then once I have all that paid off, start socking the rest away for retirement.
In the end, it will benefit myself and my family.
Sorry, we can never get 80%, 75% is our max
12/09/2013 03:14:00 PM
Yes, but actually you will not get a full 75%. It is 75% of the average of the last four years of service. Police and fire are the only ones who do not get compounded cost of living increase. Lets see how the mayor handles that one when he writes up his reform package?
Anonymous said...
Lets see, I retired from the military at the E8 pay grade after 22 years and I get 24,000.00 per year. Oh yeah, I now have to pay for medical (cost is reduced but still not cheap) and have no dental coverage. This is criminal!
12/09/2013 06:39:00 AM
When you transitioned out it looks like you fell asleep during the discussion of Tri-Care. Look into it. Then check Delta Dental. Both are great programs.
Anonymous said...
"Iron Mike" is going in2 The Hall of Fame & his number is being retired as well.
That's a tough man
I was a wee bit confused cuz of the similarities b'tween Ditka & the real "Iron Mike" former Capt/XO in Belmont.
Striking similarities. Inspector Mike R is a tough guy, rite?
He's not afraid to look U in the eye, screw a bike team this summer(5 day work week), and that grueling work schedule of 20 hours a week w/a take home car.
The two have soooo much in common. One is a legend in his career. The other "Iron Mike" is legend in his own mind....depending on what psych meds he's on.
Coach, congrats again. "Iron Mike", I'm so sorry U have to look at U'r self in the mirror. I wouldn't wish Belmont Mike's reflection back on anyone.
Cheers
12/09/2013 06:49:00 PM
I know, what a shame that some have coined the coward from 19 with that name. Luckily we know that was done in jest. Da Coach would chew him up and spit him out if he had someone like that working for him...not so much our pussy bosses who watched the sneaky bullying applied by this merit prick. They did nothing. Thank God he's gone.
Why does this sound like a crime occurred? And no police reports are generated and why are no arrests made?
I don't know but I am just saying that I don't think it's a good idea to tamper with pensions of hard working coppers and fireman especially when cops carry guns and all. Just making a point.
12/09/2013 07:38:00 AM
Hey dumbass, what point are you trying to make?? Are you saying the cops with guns are going to start shooting and killing. You can't even stand up to Mike Shields or Rahm and make a statement!!!
Anonymous said...
We need a unit within the police department with no political ties to investigate politicans. The aldercreaters think they run the police dept. Wtf, we have to notify them in shooting incidents or other violent crimes committed in their wards. They are not the police, f##k them. We need to investigate them. We are the only metropolitan city who needs city counsel approval for any type or police promotion or hiring. They are controlling us and our brass are letting them.
Wake up and smell the coffee. How do you think the brass got there? Through hard and merit? or clout?
80% for 20 years of service?
That was Mikey Shields campaign promise, how long till he makes good on any of his campaign promises????
Good thing he didn't promise RETRO PAY while campaigning.
Anonymous said...
80/20 for part time and gets paid more than me? That's bullshit!!!!! We have to work 29.1 day for 80%
Reduce the head count for alderman, this city don't need all those alderman. Most of them are useless!!!
Don't know where you work but you're obviously not police or fire. Police and fire work 29 and a day for their maximum of 75% so your deal doesn't sound too bad now, does it?
If Obama had a son and the son had a pension, it would look like the alderman´s pension.
12/09/2013 09:30:00 AM
If Obama had a son and the son had a pension, it would look like Phat Full Kline's pension.
"Why are you guys fighting pension reform?"
12/10/2013 07:47:00 AM
You see... As far as Chicago Police pensions go, there is one inescapable fact. The prior and current mayoral administrations have made an intentional and conscious decisions to not make their required timely contributions over a span of 20 years.
During that same span, the Chicago political power structure has stolen untold millions from our pension fund and gifted the money to third parties with ties to the Chicago political power structure as if OUR pension fund was THEIR personal petty cash drawer.
We're fighting this so called "reform" because we recognize it for the flat out, bald faced thievery it actually is.
"Reform" is Chicago politician-speak for, "Yeah, we stole from you guys and we have no intention on making you Coppers whole while we put laws in place to dynamite YOUR pensions while safeguarding OURS."
In just societies, criminals have been paraded to the scaffolds justifiably dangled for lesser outrages.
We don't want your sympathy...
We need you to be angry that the powers that be have said it was ok to steal from Policemen and then move Heaven and Earth in a media campaign to vilify Policemen in the eyes of the public.
The public turns their collective backs on the concerns of the Police for having so called "sweet pensions and early retirements" which makes it easy for the political power structure to destroy the lives of people who have done absolutely nothing wrong except wear a shiny star, a blue suit of clothes and swear an oath.
"The Police ARE the problem in Chicago... Once we fix THEM, everything else will fall into place."
The Policeman didn't break it.
It is way beyond the power of The Policeman to fix.
If The Policeman were so empowered, the people would cry against them for crying's sake...
The Police Are The Enemy.
Viva Hate...
Right?
But someway, somehow in spite of everything.
We dig deep and answer the call.
Anonymous said...
We need a unit within the police department with no political ties to investigate politicans. The aldercreaters think they run the police dept. Wtf, we have to notify them in shooting incidents or other violent crimes committed in their wards. They are not the police, f##k them. We need to investigate them. We are the only metropolitan city who needs city counsel approval for any type or police promotion or hiring. They are controlling us and our brass are letting them.
Wake up and smell the coffee. How do you think the brass got there? Through hard and merit? or clout?
12/10/2013 10:45:00 AM
The CPD is prohibited from investigating the City Counsel by the MCC.
Anonymous said...
I don't know but I am just saying that I don't think it's a good idea to tamper with pensions of hard working coppers and fireman especially when cops carry guns and all. Just making a point.
Your first three words say it all.
You don't know.
Quit talking stupid shit, toughguy
Bill Dougherty:
I have known you since you came on the job. I know your heart has been in the right place in the past. We all make mistakes. The electionering in FOP office in reference to the vet was a mistake. But it’s water under the bridge. The fact that some of the guys in the office did not help Shields as much as they should have can be debated until the cows come home.
What really disturbs me is the flash mob at the last general election. I heard that you handled the last board meeting with class What happened at the last general meeting was a disgrace.
Yesterday we got some stuff in patrol division administration calling for a Occupy Wall Street type of action at FOP headquarters. It was faxed from the 3rd District . A CR# was obtained for using Department paper and fax machines for non-police reasons. The Department knows who sent it. Is this what the election has come down too? Bill in your heart you know that for every 2 votes these actions get you drive they drive away 5 votes. She is doing you a disservice Bill. Many of your supporters like me are being turned off by Sid, Jim, and Kevin’s tactics. I am asking that you, for the betterment of the lodge, call off the dogs and let the election run it’s course. You also have to how your audience too Bill. While my dad said you were curtiously received at OPLEO some of your ticket actually took votes away from you.
And you have to be your own man and leave Mark at home.
And you have to be your own man and leave Mark at home.
12/11/2013 02:45:00 PM
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