Once Again, Second Class Citizens
There is (or soon will be) not a single person in the State of Illinois who has to register a firearm anymore.
Unless you're a Chicago Police Officer.
Read the linked order here, right on page two:
Unless you're a Chicago Police Officer.
Read the linked order here, right on page two:
- H. Sworn members will register all duty and nonduty firearms with the Department.
Once again, we now have less rights than the other citizens of Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. We've been warning guys and gals for years now that something like this was on the horizon. That once Concealed Carry passed, without the support of the FOP, that we as officers would regret it for not supporting something that a majority of the citizens wanted and that the courts were going to grant. In fact, the disgraced ex-president of the FOP publicly berated the blog for daring to support citizen Rights.
Now what? Who speaks up for us? There is no purpose in this rule change aside from screwing with Officers. We'll guarantee Dick Mell isn't going to have to register any of his weapons, the weapons that Shortshanks changed city ordinance to allow for a loophole when Mell forgot to register his guns one year.
This is going to make an interesting Constitutional argument one day. And we predict it's going to cost Chicago taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Now what? Who speaks up for us? There is no purpose in this rule change aside from screwing with Officers. We'll guarantee Dick Mell isn't going to have to register any of his weapons, the weapons that Shortshanks changed city ordinance to allow for a loophole when Mell forgot to register his guns one year.
This is going to make an interesting Constitutional argument one day. And we predict it's going to cost Chicago taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Labels: department issues, gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
215 Comments:
Where is Mr Todd VanDermyde??(did I spell that right?? My apologies if I did not.)
Can we, as dept members, argue that this isn't a lawful order?
Dont forget we still have officers in the registration unit doing nothing!
How many officers do you think register everyday!
May be the Inspector General would be curious why a SGT is paid to chill behind a desk and register nothing.
Correct me if I am wrong, but a gun registry violates Federal Law.
No such rule or regulation prescribed after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or dispositions be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary’s authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/926
Who is to say that those non-duty firearms are yours?
Also is there a charge for this, how did Rahm let that go?
I am sure that there will soon be universal gun registration just like Hitler wanted and got. As some historians noted, if every Jew in Europe had a Mauser rifle with 20 rounds of ammunition and the will to use it there would have been no Holocaust.
You have the Democrat/Commies like Pelosi saying that all military veterans are mentally unstable and should be forbidden to own firearms. I am sure they think the same of police officers.
Stay Safe. Guard your 2nd Amendment rights, government sponsored murder is not far away.
Those who live by the union, often suffer from the union.
Speaking of the ex-pres, or hopefully soon ex, any reports from the front lines?
Has he taken time due or is he working?
Is anyone working with him?
Better question is who is maintaining this list is it foia eligible, other than ur duty weapon anyone that complies is soft as puppy shit. FUCK THEM so the civilian working at the police department doesn't have to register his guns but I do, SERIOUSLY..
Cicero residents have to register their guns. I wonder if that is legal.
I aint registering shit other than my duty weapon...F#&k them!
What is the reasoning for this? Honestly, I don't get it.
a system in the state of collapse.
leaders are so paranoid that military vets are on watch lists so it's no surprise that police departments weapons be registered -- so when the obama secrete police are called in they'll know where to start the door to door searches.
tin foil hat talk...
whelp, google how many high ranking military generals and officers have been pushed out of service because 'obama no longer trust them' before you answer that.
Napoleon paranoid schizo's
my wife owns all mine... i mean her guns
Hey VRI Lt. Kane... GFY you tool. Save the threatening speeches for the new kids.. We all know your history and who you really are...
I don't know what they're talkin' about. All my non-duty guns belong to my wife who's not a sworn member.
The ex president of FOP berated many people
OT: FTO 005 3rd watch Thinks he knows more then me. I went to college for this and feel disrespected when he questions me. Get a life FTO! Just because you're a FTO doesn't mean you know more than me. I'll be you're boss soon! What goes around comes around. I have experience too! I worked security at the mall for a summer job. I dealt with a lot of bullshit. So next time don't be so quick to judge.
Speaking of dick mell. He's running for governor next election. You heard it hear first.
"Once Again, Second Class Citizens"
"Condition Of Employment" will end up being the catch phrase in this...
"Ya wanna be/stay a Chicago Cop? Register ALL of your weapons."
Rahm must be figuring on wide open rebellion against his rule being spearheaded by The Police and supported by what's left of the oppressed upright citizen tax payer.
Rahm invested MUCH political and media capitol trying to drive a wedge between what's left of the oppressed upright citizen taxpayer and THEIR Police.
A discussion with one of our elder subject matter experts emeriti led us to the following:
You sign on to this stinking, shit-doo-doo job for a 20 to 40 year hitch... Each man his own time for his own reasons.
Everybody else either had the good sense to stay the fuck away or lacked the courage to step forward and sign up.
Somebody. Has to...
Everybody doesn't have it in their make-up to just stand by.
Yet people want to be free and easy to heap criticism on the man that did sign up.
Both of these groups of people offer up plenty of not so expert commentary and Monday morning quarterbacking on how they think you should/shouldn't be doing your stinking, shit-doo-doo job that they couldn't/wouldn't sign up for.
You'll be condemned to second class citizenship in a city that burns Policemen at both ends and demand they show gratitude for it.
Yeah... Chicago Coppers aren't perfect. They cuss, yell and have a native tendency to play the Boots & Fists Symphony at the drop of a hat. Some people say CPD is chock full of too old, too wild and too ornery guys who are too steeped in martial/manly virtues and traditions.
The craven, non-native shit-asses have caused much ink to spill and many trees to be sacrificed to push their agenda that The Police are the problem.
Not so...
So... Are Rahm and McLookAtMe going to sic the Police on The Police as part and parcel of this bad policy?
Heart warming... The notion of Police households having their doors busted off the hinges to enforce the illegal and un-enforcible under the capricious application of "condition of employment?"
Or will it be a nasty-gram via inter-departmental mail?
"We don't have a list of YOUR shit. Comply or get fired. Fuck you and your constitutional rights...
Signed:
Garry F. McCarthy
(For Rahm Emanuel)
Or will that fall to Department of Homeland Security?
Whoever the Corporation Council is that ok'd this seems to be gambling on some cock-eyed reading of immunity under the municipal corporation banner should this order disintegrate under the weight of it's own fuckery.
Utter financial and career ruin should be their reward.
From Rahm & McIdiot on down.
What guns? I don't have any guns other than my mandatory duty gun. I hate guns, nasty things. Always creeping around, looking to shoot some poor innocent honor student. I'm glad we get all this training to control those awful guns.
That's because Rham plans to have a computer glich and give all our addresses to the criminals that want weapons and break into our homes to get them.
That is why I'm an NRA member. Sending them a copy of the order now so that a class action lawsuit can be started against this stupid city! Nice how the city backs up their officers with garbage like this!
Just curious...
If my spouse owns a weapon and we keep it in the same gunsafe as mine, who can really say whos is whos
just sayin
Speaking of second class citizens.....
is officers allowed to post pix of who dey locked up on FB????? Even tho I ain't been convicted?????
I mean my lawyer could get all that evidence cuz its time-stamped and electronically retrievable forever right????
Like my Peeps at IPRA will be able to figure out that the time a pic of an Avenue Celebrity (me) made a certain officer's FB page would be da same time dey had me locked up typing my reports?????
Im juss curious cuz I feel like my rights been violated.
Now lemme gets my headphonezz Office!!
They need this to keep the gun registration unit open for some good spots.
Fuck this rotten city and ass backwards department.
I'm not registering anything anymore. Can't wait to put this department and city in my rear view mirror.
Don't call the FOP regarding gun registration. They are too busy trying to get Bill Doughertys First VP Kevin Graham a Sat/Sun DOG group in 19 so he can attend more benefits on the weekends. Apparently 1900 put all foot posts in DOG's but Graham thinks he's better than everyone else.
Have your wife get a FOID card and the problem is solved. "Those guns belong to my wife". If you're single, you'll just have to chance it.
"In fact, the disgraced ex-president of the FOP publicly berated the blog for daring to support citizen Rights."
Sounds as if someone made him a few grand promises for becoming his puppet.
What are they going to do if I don't register my weapons? Go ahead and try to fire and or discipline me, you will have a law suit so far up the city's ass they won't know what to do.
Why? What's the reason? That's all I want to know. Why non duty firearms?
What is sad is that the gang members on streets are treated with more respect and protection of their 2nd Amendment rights, then those who protect this crooked city! This city and police dept. Should be very ashamed of themselves! I for one never tell citizens that I am a Police Officer for fear of having that used against in situations!
Just one more reason for when my day comes to retire. My moving truck will be packed for a one way trip out of this cesspool! I'll be saying fuck you Chicago in my rear view mirror!
Rule or Law???
I only have Duty weapons
As for FLOP Time to Dump the so called union
They want to take your guns. That's why they want guns registered. Now they can come to your house and grab them with their gun teams of sellout violators of the Constitution.
The FOP will always be a pack of spineless assholes. They endorse Madigan? What the fuck is that? They don't stand on the side of the United States Constitution that they swore to uphold and defend agains all enemies foreign and domestic?
Now people are going to cry when they see that the government they supported and endorsed is screwing them by requiring registration of all their weapons in violation of state law? You get the government you deserve.
It's a condition of employment and has nothing to do with constitutionality.
Now when someone retires and they go to the city and have them remove all records of gun registration.....That will be interesting...
They will try to take your guns away eventually. You'll be issued a city government gun that you will have to turn in when they tell you to. They never wanted you to carry all of the time.
Police officers need to be held to higher standard SCC:Too bad,the badge is not a gateway to privelage and exemptness.
You must PROVE to the citizens you are worthy and just,not the other way around.
The Scumbag Sense of Entitlement of police officers is astounding.Especially anything in or around Crook County.
If you are not a member of the NRA, you don't have a right to complain. They are the only ones fighting the city, county and state and keeping Americans' rights under the Second Amendment from being stripped by socialists subversives.
Why do you think they want to know this about the police?
Anyone with half a brain knew this is what was going to happen. The first officer who takes time for not having a weapon registered will have a great lawsuit against this department and city.
In the mean time keep working VRI and special even though the city treats you like shit.
Wow, my wife just acquired a nice collection of guns, best not to piss her off. Me, I only got this old rusty roscoe on my hip. "Wink, wink"
SCC:"Once again, we now have less rights than the other citizens of Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. We've been warning guys and gals for years now that something like this was on the horizon. That once Concealed Carry passed, without the support of the FOP, that we as officers would regret it for not supporting something that a majority of the citizens wanted and that the courts were going to grant. In fact, the disgraced ex-president of the FOP publicly berated the blog for daring to support citizen Rights."
Just so you all you badge toters know,because of the new CCW law when I put a no guns sign up that means you too. If you are off duty you cannot go into the Post Office with your gun,or into a school or in a posted zone.
By not openly supporting the RESTORATION of the Second Amendement(Full con-con carry) you have put yourselves into a new trick bag.....just wait.
Good. Why do you need guns? The aldermen have guns to protect you. Now go and kiss their asses and beg for service, peasants. Did you think you lived in the land of the free?
Simple...
Don't do it.
They can know about my "one duty weapon" and that will be it.
My other six guns....???? No chance.
What idiot wrote that rule? Do you think he was:
a. A supporter and defender of the Constitution
b. A socialist lackey working for those who want to destroy the Constitution
c. A leftist anti gun asshole police hater
d. Both b and c
Mayor Daley saw soldiers with rifles in the airport after 9-11 and had them disarmed.
That's how brain dead and stupid these people are. Do you really think they want you to have guns? You the people they constantly screw on contracts and work conditions?
Now you see why you need to pay attention and vote carefully. Enjoy your third world status.
It's a condition of employment and has nothing to do with constitutionality.
Really? So the city can just make up all sorts of employment rules? While you're a cop, you can't vote. While you're a cop, you cannot worship off duty?
A "work rule" that flies in the face of a Constitutionally guaranteed right is legal? Not to mention the fact that it is a government agency doing the collecting of information. Like SCC says, a very interesting constitutional question.
What happened to the previous registrations? Did they just get flushed? or are they going use that info to check to see if the same guns are registered.
Be careful boys and girls.
Do you see what happens when you elect an inexperienced bullshitter to be the president? He lies and you lose your rights.
At the FOP too, not just America.
All firearms require one-time registration.
a. Firearms acquired and registered with the Department prior to 09 July 2013, are not
required to be re-registered.
b. Firearms acquired 09 July 2013, or after, or previously owned firearms that have not
been registered with the Department, must be registered with the Department upon
the effective date of this directive.
It's a condition of employment and has nothing to do with constitutionality.
Really? So the city can just make up all sorts of employment rules? While you're a cop, you can't vote. While you're a cop, you cannot worship off duty?
A "work rule" that flies in the face of a Constitutionally guaranteed right is legal? Not to mention the fact that it is a government agency doing the collecting of information. Like SCC says, a very interesting constitutional question.
12/30/2013 07:28:00 AM
Not sure about this one. For years you were never allowed to sell a handgun to anyone but another po or a gun shop, even though Illinois residents were allowed to own handguns. Sounds similar
Educate yourselves! Our pension is 33% funded under "rosy" assumptions. Whats the reality? 10%?
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/9782a5ce-6e3c-11e3-ac2a-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2oxvusrWe
We should demand civilian accounting assumptions and be demanding pension reform, not fighting it.
The effect an the average guy will be minimal compared to the merit and goldbraid guys if done right.
The longer we wait, the worse it will be.
Police officers need to be held to higher standard SCC:Too bad,the badge is not a gateway to privelage and exemptness.
You must PROVE to the citizens you are worthy and just,not the other way around.
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O K prick.
I proved it after 30 years of dealing with SHIT-heads you fuckin' coward.
NOW, let me have my rights.
Anonymous said...
Dont forget we still have officers in the registration unit doing nothing!
How many officers do you think register everyday!
May be the Inspector General would be curious why a SGT is paid to chill behind a desk and register nothing.
12/30/2013 12:09:00 AM
Another bitter officer watching what others are doing? How about the officers in units with do nothing jobs hiding in offices? A job made up to hide a officer who has nothing to do? Since you are so concerned, then file a complaint with IAD and IG office. Grow a set and do it. In the meantime, get a life.
Hey VRI Lt. Kane... GFY you tool. Save the threatening speeches for the new kids.. We all know your history and who you really are...
12/30/2013 12:49:00 AM
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You can't write 1 parking ticket working an 8 hour VRI tour?
You can't park the squad at the end of the night where it belongs?
YOU are a useless POS.
Anonymous said...
Just curious...
If my spouse owns a weapon and we keep it in the same gunsafe as mine, who can really say whos is whos
just sayin
12/30/2013 02:39:00 AM
As long as she purchased the guns. There is a paper trail on legally purchased firearms. And you can't sell them to her, there is an order against that too.
It's a condition of employment and has nothing to do with constitutionality.
I'm not a lawyer but.....for something to be a condition of employment, wouldn't it have to be agreed upon BEFORE you are hired? Especially if it involves an issue that is regarded as a REQUIREMENT for employment.
here is what commander lewin and captain ryczek do at the OEMC.
POLICE CADET
Job Number:
248118
Description
POLICE CADET
JOB ANNOUNCEMENT
CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT
Location: Police Departments (throughout Chicago)
Shift: Rotational (flexible with college class schedule)
Hours: Varies
Number of Vacancies: 50
ESSENTIAL DUTIES:
Perform clerical duties such as maintaining files and records, processing forms, gathering and organizing documents, and typing and photocopying documents;
Answer telephones, respond to general inquiries regarding police programs and route specific calls to appropriate personnel;
Assist in processing case reports and compiling data for use in various productivity and manning reports;
Create spreadsheets and maintain databases to track data;
Search computer and manual records to verify or obtain requested data;
Attend community alternative policing strategy (CAPS) meetings and outreach events to distribute informational flyers and provide information to youth on the Police Cadet Program;
May assist police officers with manual tasks or clerical support at special events or police programs;
Participate in a physical fitness program;
Attend monthly training meetings;
And, performs other related duties as assigned.
THIS POSITION IS EXEMPT FROM CAREER SERVICE
Qualifications
My wife has a foid card, only one duty weapon registered in my house. Lick my sack princess rhammy
Make sure your wife has a FOID, they're her guns.
Wisconsin State employees awarded $14M in bonuses, raises.........
"Gov. Scott Walker says state employees who are doing more with less deserve to be rewarded."
...can't wait to get out of this corrupted Shitcago.
Anonymous said...
OT: FTO 005 3rd watch Thinks he knows more then me. I went to college for this and feel disrespected when he questions me. Get a life FTO! Just because you're a FTO doesn't mean you know more than me. I'll be you're boss soon! What goes around comes around. I have experience too! I worked security at the mall for a summer job. I dealt with a lot of bullshit. So next time don't be so quick to judge.
12/30/2013 01:10:00 AM
Surely this post is a joke? If not, FTO 005 3rd watch fail this goof.
And dont read papers or tablets or smoke in police vehicles, also no phones,come clear, fuck them.
What is the reasoning for this? Honestly, I don't get it.
12/30/2013 12:36:00 AM
Hatred, and a desire to commit butthurt and fuckery any little way the cook county dems think they can.
Remember that when they come knocking out in the 41st and 19th and want support.
The only thing that the city may be able to get by with is registration of a duty weapon. Anything else flies in the face of the new Illinois law and the Seventh Federal Appeals Court.
IOt gets even better.
If you are a retired PO and want to fire a revolver&auto, you pay $100.00 per year. Thats $500.00 for five years.
If you want CCW, you pay $150 for 5 years!! Thats $30.00 a year.
Gee thanks
Anonymous said...
Police officers need to be held to higher standard SCC:Too bad,the badge is not a gateway to privelage and exemptness.
You must PROVE to the citizens you are worthy and just,not the other way around.
The Scumbag Sense of Entitlement of police officers is astounding.Especially anything in or around Crook County.
12/30/2013 06:57:00 AM
"...privelage...exemptness..."
Hey Dumbo. These are not words. Either you are joking or you are the biggest idiot in town. It never ceases to amaze me all the jumped-up dopes who try to sound smart, trip over their vocabularies, then fall flat on their empty heads. Boy, you CPS graduates go beyond stupid.
Wait a minute, those are not my off duty weapons. No I just have my two weapons and both are registered. Those other ones have to be my wife's and kids guns and rifles. They are citizens and don't have to register them.
Retired CPD 2010...moved out to Az. Pay 1/2 the taxes in beautiful Phoenix home with twice the size home and big back yard with now ripe grapefruit trees, orange tree and lemon tree. Spa time on the deck, long patio with all year round grilling and oh yes no gun registration and can carry wherever I go. Moving after living in Chicago all my life was made so easy by the Democrats taxing machine screwing with all home owners and especially police officers regarding weapons! Hang tough until you can retire, or seriously consider law enforcement in another state! Free at last...American born citizen
When do Streets and Sanitation and Water department Employees have to register their guns. What about Corp Council attorneys and Alderman, Etc, Etc, Etc? Are you out there ISRA, NRA, Anybody willing to fight the evil empire?
Just so you all you badge toters know,because of the new CCW law when I put a no guns sign up that means you too. If you are off duty you cannot go into the Post Office with your gun,or into a school or in a posted zone.
By not openly supporting the RESTORATION of the Second Amendement(Full con-con carry) you have put yourselves into a new trick bag.....just wait.
12/30/2013 07:02:00 AM
Hey, genius, aren't you supporting taking away 2nd Amendment rights by posting that sign?
Now unless you plan on searching every person who walks into whatever shithole you allege to own, save your threats and go back to the Alex Jones website!
If we end up registering our guns, I will be registering it to my work address and using my work phone number. If they need to contact me they can do it there.
Why are the police the only city employees that have to register? I smell something funny here. Who is assigned at Gun Registration? Do they have that much clout that an order was created to keep a spot open for them? Any other theories people?
"From my cold, dead hands...."
The first officer who gets tagged for not registering their off-duty firearms are in for a nice payday with the right lawyer.
I sure wish FOP were in the 2A fight earlier and worked with the NRA for equal firearm rights for both officers and citizens. Please don't tell me FOP leadership didn't see this one coming.
Hey VRI Lt. Kane... GFY you tool. Save the threatening speeches for the new kids.. We all know your history and who you really are...
12/30/2013 12:49:00 AM
Paul is still crying about not being made exempt under Jody Weis. He is good at pontificating but either can't see the forest from the trees or lacks common sense. He doesn't see the impact some of the changes he himself championed-tactical response reports-has on individual officers tactics and strategy. It's over Paul just take the money and run.
LEARN.
And if the State fears you...what is the State?
More people should know.
VIX
12/30/2013 07:02:00 AM
You are wrong. The prohibitions apply to licensees of the act. We are not licensees of that act our carry comes from a totally different set of laws. So I would like you to post whatever shithole you own so I can walk in and sit down toting my piece. You hump. Go read 430 ILCS 66/65(a) "prohibited areas". Have fun with that skippy.
my other few guns that I have are kept at my summer home locked up in my safe which is inside my locked home. I bring them back once in a great while to break them down, clean and inspect them, then take them back out of the city. Sorry, not permanently kept here so you unconstitutional law doesn't apply to me or many others like me.
Anonymous said...
Police officers need to be held to higher standard SCC:Too bad,the badge is not a gateway to privelage and exemptness.
You must PROVE to the citizens you are worthy and just,not the other way around.
The Scumbag Sense of Entitlement of police officers is astounding.Especially anything in or around Crook County.
12/30/2013 06:57:00 AM
You obviously can't grasp the concept of the discussion can you shiteater?
In a language something like you can understand:
Your NOT being a cop doesn't entitle you to privilege (u idiot) or "exemptness" from OUR work rules then does it? dipshit.
Crawl back in your unwashed hole Occupier..... grownups who pay taxes are talking here.
It's a condition of employment and has nothing to do with constitutionality.
Really? So the city can just make up all sorts of employment rules? While you're a cop, you can't vote. While you're a cop, you cannot worship off duty?
A "work rule" that flies in the face of a Constitutionally guaranteed right is legal? Not to mention the fact that it is a government agency doing the collecting of information. Like SCC says, a very interesting constitutional
The difference is that by not registering you are not committing a crime, but not following a workplace policy. Your discipline would come from your workplace not the courts.
Just like when CCW Licenses start being issued; there will be companies that prohibit employees from having firearms on company property including employee parking lots. Even though there is a safe harbor law for parking lots, if you stored your gun in your car an employer can discipline an employee for not following company policy.
Whoever the Corporation Council is . . .
the problem in a nutshell
The city is doing this on purpose. They know the FOP will legally fight it. That is how the city fucks with us. They force the hand of our union to waste our resources and money on issues the city manufactures on purpose. And you assholes don't do anything in return. Do you know why the city keeps messing with us? Because we allow them to. If we pushed back, I can guarantee you that this sort of shenanigans would not happen. In two and a half years I am done. I feel sorry for all of you officers with less than fifteen years on the job. You won't stand up for yourself, let alone for your own family.
Yeah, speaking of foid cards, when is someone gonna challenge them? Why is Illinois the only state that has foid cards?
I dont have any other guns besides my duty weapon. My wife owns a lot of guns though.
OT: this comment is in regards to the teenage female who was shot in the head, dumped in Dolton, died, and her unborn baby saved. The mom was on the news stating who could hurt her angel, she was going to enroll back in school, she wanted to be a doctor, blah, blah, blah, the typical ghetto bullshit that comes out of mouth a shit heads parent when karma catches up with their devilish ways. The little angel doctor to be setup the dope man to be robbed by her boyfriend and his brother, she even got into the car to finalize the armed robbery, when the dope man sixth sense kick in he tied to drive away prompting the boyfriend to open fire on the car and shot the future doctor to be in the head. This is for all you reporters who put the grieving ghetto parents on the news so they can spew their bullshit and lies on your viewers. They fucking Lie!!! Sure she was an angel, going back to school, wanted to be a doctor, would of made a great mother,never been in trouble blah, blah, blah, and here people were wondering who would shoot a pregnant girl.
Transfer order???? Comments on new DSS order?
Anyone with half a brain knew this is what was going to happen. The first officer who takes time for not having a weapon registered will have a great lawsuit against this department and city.
In the mean time keep working VRI and special even though the city treats you like shit.
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$$$$$$$$$$. Sorry, the dollar outweighs all. I really dont care about the contract, other coppers and your problems. You want me to register my gun sure I really dont care. You say I have to blow after a shooting no problem, I dont drink before or at work so again no problem. You say I have to fill out more reports now for shootings making more work for me, who cares, after all I am at work so why not work. What Im getting at is im no hard charger, but im also no dog. I dont like coppers who are puds. 90 percent of this job is puds. You can cry not to work VRI because the city "screws us".. again, I dont care. Its a job. I do my work, arrest people when I must, I write my mover, 5 parkers and try to get an ANOV or two each tour and back up my fellow officers. Its not a hard job. I will work vri weather all of you hate it or not beause after all money is wayyy more important than any of you. Its all about my family. I work vri to pay for housing for my kids in college and take them on awesome trips. Last november I took my wife and kids to hawaii for a week and a half. We have gone to mexico, florida and me and the wife went to wine country in california.. all on the cities dime. Our cars are paid off and life is good. $$$ can make life easier and it can also bring happiness to your family and allow you to spend more time with them in the long run and to do great things with them.. So sorry, my family is much more important than any of you and your contracts or city screwing us. Im retiring in 14 months and none of you mean anything to me, its all about family.
Just so you all you badge toters know,because of the new CCW law when I put a no guns sign up that means you too. If you are off duty you cannot go into the Post Office with your gun,or into a school or in a posted zone.
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You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. We are not in the same boat as civilians. Did you even read the Homeland Securitu Act? Asshat.
Have you guys forgotten " The Blue
Flu ? "
It might work. Remember, there is
strength in unity, and safety in
numbers. Good luck.
Correct it will be labeled under condition of employment, just like residency. You as an individual still have the right to live where ever you chose and the right not to have to register your weapons in Chicago. All you have to do is resign, move and go work for Walmart.
On the other hand if you think the the City's firearm registration is gone forever you are wrong. They simply could not maintain the current system. They are expecting a huge influx of new handgun owners with CCW. I believe Rahm estimated 400,000 on channel 7 a few weeks back. .
I say in less than a year all will one again be required to register their firearms in the city. The registration will be handled by a private contractor and yes you guessed it. The new registration fees will be hundreds of dollars.
Just imagine, at 100 bucks a pop all current registrations have to re-register. Then add the estimated 400,000 new registrations on top of that.
And no, the gun registration was never ruled unconstitutional by anyone.
Now with the CCW training at 3 to 5 hundred dollars. The state fee is what 150 bucks + FOID and the new city registration fee. it will cost any one from Chicago 700.00 to 1000.00 dollars to exorcise their right to carry in Chicago or Cook County, who is also considering charging a fee. The county wants their cut and may also create a registration for ALL Cook County residents.
The city and county are also considering mandatory minimum 1 million dollar insurance policy for anyone who chooses to exorcise their right to own or carry.
It is all about the money people, we all know that. Their philosophy is that if they can not have things their way, which is no guns at all. We will all have to pay dearly to them for something that is our right under the constitution.
Join the NRA now. The union charges us about $550 a year. The NRA has 1,3, 5 year memberships for a tiny fraction of that. The NRA lifetime membership usually costs $1000 but you can now get one for as low as $300 if you call and ask about current deals. Defend your rights - join the NRA.
Per U04-02
All firearms require one-time registration.
a. Firearms acquired and registered with the Department prior to 09 July 2013, are not required to be re-registered.
b. Firearms acquired 09 July 2013, or after, or previously owned firearms that have not been registered with the Department, must be registered with the Department upon the effective date of this directive.
Have any of you worked along with Homeland Security yet?
A buddy from another Dept., with some recent big action did.., it was an eye opening experience.
Don't trust them, and don't think for a second you aren't on their radar for some door kickin fun!
Former Military and Police personnel are considered high risk threats.
I thought that was rich'
Remember the lock down?
Coppers houses got hit too!
just sayin'
Maybe this law will protect officers whose weapons are stolen. There have been reports of several gangs who stole specialized in stealing police officers' weapons.
Not to worry.
Rahm and Madigan and the next Democrat Governor will pass a law requiring firearm registration from ALL Illinois owners of firearms.
It is expected and reasonable for the department to require registration of duty weapons. It is not reasonable and was unexpected for the department to require registration of you private weapons. I am not an attorney, but I would guess that this is a requirement of the job that would not be enforceable in any many. FOP should file a grievance on this matter and go to court for a temp injunction. If anyone attempts to register any weapon that is banned by Cook County ordinance that is currently in court, they might require you to dispose of the weapon. I don't see the logic here except as a matter of power and control.
Every police officer should be a member of the Illinois State Rifle Association and the National Rifle Association. If you do not, then you have no one to complain to. These are the only two organizations fighting the takeover of the 2nd amendment. I was not a member of either group until Bill Clinton started his bullshit. Glad I stayed with them.
Just so you all you badge toters know,because of the new CCW law when I put a no guns sign up that means you too. If you are off duty you cannot go into the Post Office with your gun,or into a school or in a posted zone.
By not openly supporting the RESTORATION of the Second Amendement(Full con-con carry) you have put yourselves into a new trick bag.....just wait.
12/30/2013 07:02:00 AM
Got news for you, most officers do support the Second Ammendment. Our bosses may not, but don't confuse them with working police officers.
Also, we are bound to a different set of laws regarding where we can carry.
Anonymous said...
Don't call the FOP regarding gun registration. They are too busy trying to get Bill Doughertys First VP Kevin Graham a Sat/Sun DOG group in 19 so he can attend more benefits on the weekends. Apparently 1900 put all foot posts in DOG's but Graham thinks he's better than everyone else.
Hey Bitter old man
If its so bad on days why don't you come to Midnights? No one cares about that petty B.S.
Where is the FOP. This is one issue that they should be fighting. Just imagine if we had Sharon Lewis. I can't stand her but she gets the job done and she fights for the people she represents. All our union does is corn beef dinners. She would be on the evening news worth her game plan.
Riddle me this. Where the fuck is the transfer order from the last bid openings. I assume its taking so long so the cloutes can make their phone calls and bump people of the list. Shitcago corruption hits again.
Are other city employees required to register their firearms as a condition of employment?
Will city contractors be required to register their handguns?
Will businesses owners and employees in the city have to register their firearms or lose their business license?
The backdoor to preemption is wide open and guess who walked in?
How can you register a firearm if they stop registering firearms? You would think the city would just scrap the program altogether (finally) since nobody but the police will be required to register firearms. Personally I would shred my registrations and Chicago FID and mail them to Rahm's office.
Good grief - this thing goes on FOREVER... What a bunch of malarkey.
NEVER REGISTER YOUR GUNS! NEVER FORGET!
It's your duty as an American (which outranks that of the imbecilic drunk you have as a Super) to ignore all unconstitutional orders and laws.
In short - tell them "Thanks, but no. This is just insane. I'm a COP. I put my life on the line ever fucking day for the Public. If you can't trust me to carry a fucking firearm w/o registration or all these bullshit restrictions - then that's unfortunate, but not my problem. I'm not going to comply. So fire me, then I can sue your ass and retire with some real money."
Where did our fearless leader shields get sent/dumped to????
Anonymous said...It's a condition of employment and has nothing to do with constitutionality. Now when someone retires and they go to the city and have them remove all records of gun registration.....That will be interesting...
12/30/2013 06:56:00 AM
Since when do conditions of employment trump constitutional rights? So by your logic your employer can change your religion, not give lunch breaks, work you 100 hours a week with no compensation, tell you that you can't be married..... see where this is going? So if your employer wants to trample on your constitutional rights, he just calls it a "condition of employment".... I don't fucking think so.
Those of you who boldly say you will not register any other guns than your duty guns should probably think twice. If you owned and registered guns in the past they certainly still have a record of you owning that gun. There are laws that must be followed regarding the lawful transfer or sale of guns to someone with a valid FOID card. Dont outsmart yourselves and leave yourselves open to disciplinary action or potentially the subject of an arrest for firearm regulation violations. THose havent been changed by the new law. These are potential federal violations. Be careful!!! You may win in the end but in the meantime they can make your life miserable.
" Just so you all you badge toters know,because of the new CCW law when I put a no guns sign up that means you too. If you are off duty you cannot go into the Post Office with your gun,or into a school or in a posted zone."
Yea I don't know about that. The sign references 430ilcs and specifically addresses CCW PERMIT holders. Police are exempted under the UUW statutes. I'd hate to be the 1st copper to find out though.
Anonymous said...
It's a condition of employment and has nothing to do with constitutionality.
I'm not a lawyer but.....for something to be a condition of employment, wouldn't it have to be agreed upon BEFORE you are hired? Especially if it involves an issue that is regarded as a REQUIREMENT for employment.
12/30/2013 09:01:00 AM
Officers' weapons have been subject to registration since registration became law in Chicago. Nothing has changed except registration for civilians. Another thing that needs to be litigated or at least, negotiated.
As for me, I have had that unregistered shotgun my entire career. And now I will never register it. Kiss my ass Rahm, just like Richy and Eugene and Harold before you.
Not a cop here...
Can the CPD legally issue a GO that is in violation of the State Law?
Section 22, Article I of the Illinois Bill of Rights.4
No Registration required.
On September 11, 2013, the Chicago City Council repealed the law requiring the registration of firearms and the law requiring a city issued firearm owners permit.
Is this something that can be legally fought under a CBA Grievance? Or a Court Challenge?
Hey VRI Lt. Kane... GFY you tool. Save the threatening speeches for the new kids.. We all know your history and who you really are...
12/30/2013 12:49:00 AM
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You can't write 1 parking ticket working an 8 hour VRI tour?
You can't park the squad at the end of the night where it belongs?
YOU are a useless POS.
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no, dont make excuses for that pos lt. Yes, I write not one but at least 7 or 8 parkers everytime I work VRI. and yes, I do follow the rules and park the car where it is supposed to go. Im talking about LT KANE. He thinks he is talking to 8 year old children and needs to threaten everyone in the room with no partner requests and how his little girls upstairs might have to move a car while doing partner requests and put people on the list. I have always returned the car where it is supposed to go. I have always brought in activity. I have never fallen asleep during vri. Im sure people dont do anything, they fall asleep and they park the car where ever.. we all know who they are but He thinks he needs to talk to everyone like they are children. GFY! Im tired of your speech. Start talking to people like they are adults and stop making your own rules because your girls upstairs dont like it. I work 011 all the time, most of the time im in 011 because im a north sider and there is never a threatening speech, no rules on how to park cars and no talking down to the officers out there... LT Kane is just a POS who is gonna show everyone who is boss now. Ive worked with him when he was a blue shirt and worked in the same district as him as a sgt.. trust me, it goes much deeper with this guy. He has a past of screwing with coppers all the time. He gets off on showing everyone HE is boss and YOU WILL listen to him or else. He hasnt changed a bit in 15 years. when he worked a beat car he always tried to play the hard guy role to the public and to other coppers on the watch.
>>>Anonymous said...
It's a condition of employment and has nothing to do with constitutionality.
I'm not a lawyer but.....for something to be a condition of employment, wouldn't it have to be agreed upon BEFORE you are hired? Especially if it involves an issue that is regarded as a REQUIREMENT for employment.
12/30/2013 09:01:00 AM<<<
Keep up that sort of thinking and the city will be issuing our weapons like bowling shoes at a kids party.
Remember that only free men and women own guns.
>>>As long as she purchased the guns. There is a paper trail on legally purchased firearms. And you can't sell them to her, there is an order against that too.
12/30/2013 08:57:00 AM<<<
You can give them them to any family member who has an FOID and a clean record. Before the new law there was a small gray/pink transfered lost destroyed form that had to be filled out. I am not sure what had to be done now.
Fuckery pure and simple. Chicago dems. lost big downstate and now like bullies that get their comeuppance they come home and smack the old lady and kids around.
"Not sure about this one. For years you were never allowed to sell a handgun to anyone but another po or a gun shop, even though Illinois residents were allowed to own handguns. Sounds similar"
We now have the Heller and McDonald decision, the Moore decision. And a very strong State preemption law regarding handguns. Again Chicago is being two cute by half. Despite what the ordinance says I can complete a private sale of a handgun (provided I check FOID etc..) to anyone anywhere in this state. Bring it Corp Counsel.
Yet today as cold as it was,I still watched people who should know better,come in with handfuls of Revenue for a Mayor that detests them.
A large majority of coppers aren't gun guys. They buy their duty weapon and maybe a smaller off-duty piece and those are the only two guns they own for the rest of their lives. So most guys could really give two shits about this kind of stuff. Their more worried about VRI checks than they are about the hold this city, state and country are trying to put on them.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Speaking of dick mell. He's running for governor next election. You heard it hear first.
12/30/2013 01:12:00 AM
The man is 75 years old. Ain't happening.
Keep working VRI you fucking assholes.
Give them everything they want and then some. They really appreciate your professionalism.
Your year-delayed NATO overtime check was a mere oversight. The city meant nothing by it. Really.
The 5% offered for the next 4 years of your indentured servitude was for your own good and the good of society and the economy. Thanks for understanding.
Pay no attention to the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS being spent on pet projects that we don't need while your pension hovers around 30% funded.
No doubt the city will institute some kind of special employment that all you suckers and sellouts can work for time-and-a-half. You can help disarm other officers under Obamao's National DISARMy when the time comes.
Don't say you weren't warned.
I only have my duty weapon. Every other firearm I ever owned was turned in at St Sabinas during the last bug back program. Want to find that firearm I used to own? Go see Fr. Pfleger.
Gee Hamilton and Masters are Except Cause they work for County???
Don't say peeps.
Retired CPD 2010...moved out to Az. Pay 1/2 the taxes in beautiful Phoenix home with twice the size home and big back yard with now ripe grapefruit trees, orange tree and lemon tree. Spa time on the deck, long patio with all year round grilling and oh yes no gun registration and can carry wherever I go. Moving after living in Chicago all my life was made so easy by the Democrats taxing machine screwing with all home owners and especially police officers regarding weapons! Hang tough until you can retire, or seriously consider law enforcement in another state! Free at last...American born citizen
Aren't you a peach... At least guy got a pension . Those of us who are looking at retiring 10 yrs down the road won't have anything to look forward to.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Maybe this law will protect officers whose weapons are stolen. There have been reports of several gangs who stole specialized in stealing police officers' weapons.
12/30/2013 01:19:00 PM
Brilliant observation. Perhaps you can enlighten us as to HOW that would 'help'.
AINT gonna do it!NOPE, I AM A REBEL!!
Registration is a 'NO BRAINER'! Your 'duty related' weapons NEED to be registered as a 'Condition of Employment'! SIMPLE!!! There is an educational standard... a uniform standard... an attendance standard... AND registration of duty related firearms! This is easy ladies and gents! You've got a '1911' .45 that's not authorized? It doesn't have to be registered! DUTY RELATED BECAUSE WE SIGN YOUR CHECK!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It's a condition of employment and has nothing to do with constitutionality.
Really? So the city can just make up all sorts of employment rules? While you're a cop, you can't vote. While you're a cop, you cannot worship off duty?
A "work rule" that flies in the face of a Constitutionally guaranteed right is legal? Not to mention the fact that it is a government agency doing the collecting of information. Like SCC says, a very interesting constitutional question.
12/30/2013 07:28:00 AM
Yes. They can and they do it all the time.
Residency requirements have been found unconstitutional. But guess what? We still have to live in the city.
don't you realize by now that the city can do whatever it wants with no real threat of any penalties to be paid later.
Get a clue hairgel...
This ain't your ideal liberal college world.
this can be readily fought in court. preemption is pretty strong for handguns. they just plain cannot require a registration of handguns. that is specifically preempted.
you are going to have to go to court to beat it though.
I think you will still have to register long guns though if they push it.
take up a collection and hire a lawyer like everyone else has to do when government goes outside its bounds.
not a cop.
Where is the FOP. This is one issue that they should be fighting. Just imagine if we had Sharon Lewis. I can't stand her but she gets the job done and she fights for the people she represents. All our union does is corn beef dinners. She would be on the evening news worth her game plan.
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Not to pick on you sir, but if you wouldn't mind her fighting for you, how come you cant stand her? And her name is Karen. This Is the sentiment of many people, they hate her, but would like her fighting for them...she fights for "her" workers rights and the reason you cant stand her is because of the bs dribble that circulates about teachers and the cps. Rahm is doing what nazi party starting in the 1930's... pick a few points of argument and use them as slogans. By her fighting for teachers, she is the only keeping rahm busy so he doesn't divert all his attention to police and fire. Im sure she would just prefer a thank you and be on your way.
Just so you all you badge toters know,because of the new CCW law when I put a no guns sign up that means you too. If you are off duty you cannot go into the Post Office with your gun,or into a school or in a posted zone.
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You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. We are not in the same boat as civilians. Did you even read the Homeland Securitu Act? Asshat.
^^ Hey asshat ^^
Did YOU read it?
It clearly states the same, in essence, whether you are retired Military or Police, you ARE NOT exempt from restrictions in CCW in ALL Federal buildings and private businesses.
Same as Joe Citizen
Learn to read "boot"
Anonymous said...
Maybe this law will protect officers whose weapons are stolen. There have been reports of several gangs who stole specialized in stealing police officers' weapons.
12/30/2013 01:19:00 PM
And how will this law protect the officers and from what?
$$$$$$$$$$. Sorry, the dollar outweighs all. I really dont care about the contract, other coppers and your problems. You want me to register my gun sure I really dont care. You say I have to blow after a shooting no problem, I dont drink before or at work so again no problem. You say I have to fill out more reports now for shootings making more work for me, who cares, after all I am at work so why not work. What Im getting at is im no hard charger, but im also no dog. I dont like coppers who are puds. 90 percent of this job is puds. You can cry not to work VRI because the city "screws us".. again, I dont care. Its a job. I do my work, arrest people when I must, I write my mover, 5 parkers and try to get an ANOV or two each tour and back up my fellow officers. Its not a hard job. I will work vri weather all of you hate it or not beause after all money is wayyy more important than any of you. Its all about my family. I work vri to pay for housing for my kids in college and take them on awesome trips. Last november I took my wife and kids to hawaii for a week and a half. We have gone to mexico, florida and me and the wife went to wine country in california.. all on the cities dime. Our cars are paid off and life is good. $$$ can make life easier and it can also bring happiness to your family and allow you to spend more time with them in the long run and to do great things with them.. So sorry, my family is much more important than any of you and your contracts or city screwing us. Im retiring in 14 months and none of you mean anything to me, its all about family.
12/30/2013 12:04:00 PM
You sound like a real nice guy. I bet everyone really enjoys knowing you
Just so you all you badge toters know,because of the new CCW law when I put a no guns sign up that means you too. If you are off duty you cannot go into the Post Office with your gun,or into a school or in a posted zone.
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You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. We are not in the same boat as civilians. Did you even read the Homeland Securitu Act? Asshat.
^^ Hey asshat ^^
Did YOU read it?
As a active member of Law enforcement, retired Law Enforcement, active service member or retired.., Under the Patriot act, you are held to same standards as citizens.
The only difference for active law enforcement is to show that you are on the premise conducting police action.
Otherwise, even active members can be turned away from private businesses when off duty.
It clearly states the same, in essence, whether you are retired Military or Police, you ARE NOT exempt from restrictions in CCW in ALL Federal buildings and private businesses.
Same as Joe Citizen
Learn to read "boot"
POLICE CADET
JOB ANNOUNCEMENT
CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT
Location: Police Departments (throughout Chicago)
Shift: Rotational (flexible with college class schedule)
Hours: Varies
Number of Vacancies: 50
ESSENTIAL DUTIES:
Perform clerical duties such as maintaining files and records, processing forms, gathering and organizing documents, and typing and photocopying documents;
Answer telephones, respond to general inquiries regarding police programs and route specific calls to appropriate personnel;
Assist in processing case reports and compiling data for use in various productivity and manning reports;
Create spreadsheets and maintain databases to track data;
Search computer and manual records to verify or obtain requested data;
Attend community alternative policing strategy (CAPS) meetings and outreach events to distribute informational flyers and provide information to youth on the Police Cadet Program;
May assist police officers with manual tasks or clerical support at special events or police programs;
Participate in a physical fitness program;
Attend monthly training meetings;
And, performs other related duties as assigned.
THIS POSITION IS EXEMPT FROM CAREER SERVICE
Qualifications
WTF What do they need cadets for at $10.00 an hour doing these jobs. They are already being done in the commanders office, and unit and district front offices at $80,000 a year
"$$$$$$$$$$. Sorry, the dollar outweighs all. I really dont care about the contract, other coppers and your problems. You want me to register my gun sure I really dont care. You say I have to blow after a shooting no problem, I dont drink before or at work so again no problem. You say I have to fill out more reports now for shootings making more work for me, who cares, after all I am at work so why not work. What Im getting at is im no hard charger, but im also no dog. I dont like coppers who are puds. 90 percent of this job is puds. You can cry not to work VRI because the city "screws us".. again, I dont care. Its a job. I do my work, arrest people when I must, I write my mover, 5 parkers and try to get an ANOV or two each tour and back up my fellow officers. Its not a hard job. I will work vri weather all of you hate it or not beause after all money is wayyy more important than any of you. Its all about my family. I work vri to pay for housing for my kids in college and take them on awesome trips. Last november I took my wife and kids to hawaii for a week and a half. We have gone to mexico, florida and me and the wife went to wine country in california.. all on the cities dime. Our cars are paid off and life is good. $$$ can make life easier and it can also bring happiness to your family and allow you to spend more time with them in the long run and to do great things with them.. So sorry, my family is much more important than any of you and your contracts or city screwing us. Im retiring in 14 months and none of you mean anything to me, its all about...
well said.....when you die, will that fit on your headstone?
"Just so you all you badge toters know,because of the new CCW law when I put a no guns sign up that means you too. If you are off duty you cannot go into the Post Office with your gun,or into a school or in a posted zone.
By not openly supporting the RESTORATION of the Second Amendement(Full con-con carry) you have put yourselves into a new trick bag.....just wait."
12/30/2013 07:02:00 AM
how about on duty too?....call the police, they see the sign that says "no guns".....they wait outside, you handle it pal
Who is the guy from Ravenswood who had a letter to Editor in the S/T Sunday regarding the Reward for shooting at us and probing the Supt. for not caring?
Not true. You police know darn well you can shoot someone and get away with it. Whatever tangle you get into when your off duty you know the responding officer is going to take your side 100 percent so I can't buy you crying the blues. You and your fellow officers have get out of jail free cards and john public needs bail money and must hire an attorney. I agree concealed carry is really going to get the entire south and west side of Chicago into a shooting gallery. Not something I want to see.
In short - tell them "Thanks, but no. This is just insane. I'm a COP. I put my life on the line ever fucking day for the Public. If you can't trust me to carry a fucking firearm w/o registration or all these bullshit restrictions - then that's unfortunate, but not my problem. I'm not going to comply. So fire me, then I can sue your ass and retire with some real money."
Amen!
I'm right here.
You got the spelling right except there is no capitol D in the middle.
I didn't go deer hunting this morning, to cold, so I didn't get to read this after sun up. Got busy with some other work so here is my answer.
As I see this there are a couple of issues. 1 they can not require you as a FOID card holder to register any handguns. this preemption was passed in the carry law. It Says:
(b) Notwithstanding subsection (a) of this Section, the
regulation, licensing, possession, and registration of
handguns and ammunition for a handgun, and the transportation
of any firearm and ammunition by a holder of a valid Firearm
Owner's Identification Card issued by the Department of State
Police under this Act are exclusive powers and functions of
this State. Any ordinance or regulation, or portion of that
ordinance or regulation, enacted on or before the effective
date of this amendatory Act of the 98th General Assembly that
purports to impose regulations or restrictions on a holder of a
valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card issued by the
Department of State Police under this Act in a manner that is
inconsistent with this Act, on the effective date of this
amendatory Act of the 98th General Assembly, shall be invalid
in its application to a holder of a valid Firearm Owner's
Identification Card issued by the Department of State Police
under this Act.
this is clearly a regulation and it applies to FOID card holders as the general order requires CPD officers to possess FOID cards.
I would also think that it could be grieved as it was not agreed to in contract talks.
question is, who wants to tell McStreetlights?
Todd Vandermyde
When they screw you on your pension, you will know why they want to know about your other guns. Expect to have to leave your duty weapon at work at end of shift soon.
I wonder if Chicago firemen have to register firearms? " me too clause?" Hhhhmmmm?? Heroes probably don't have to register.
Also, we are bound to a different set of laws regarding where we can carry.
12/30/2013 01:34:00 PM
Not when you're off duty.
Let you in on a little secret...
Someone Posts a "NO GUNS" sign...you are required to honor it. By State Law.
You do have the right to refuse to patronize those businesses...
And I plan on protesting with my wallet.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yeah, speaking of foid cards, when is someone gonna challenge them? Why is Illinois the only state that has foid cards?
12/30/2013 11:37:00 AM
Can't speak for any other state besides here and Michigan..
When I bought my first .380 and .45 in the 90's back in Michigan I had to get a Purchase permit from my Local PD and do the whole FBI background check and etc...
The Purchase permit was valid for up to 3 handguns and only usable for 7 days from date of issue.
I didn't need anyone's permission to buy hydroshocks for the handguns or Carbine (didn't need a permit to buy the 9mm Hi Point carbine either).
Illinois FOID Card.. you can buy how many handguns legally every month with it? I'll tell you....121 a year with the 72 hour wait. And you can get 365 Rifles/Shotguns with the 24 hour wait.
There is of course the point that the FOID card is illegal Constitutionally since the McD vs Chicago Decision.
Hi. Just wanted to let you guys know that they screwed over the officers that retired and opted to pay for their medical insurance. It went up 40% thanks to Obamacare. Please let officers that are thinking of retiring before they are eligible for free healthcare DON'T. If I knew this would happen I would have waited until I was eligible.
Off topic: an article in the paper a few days ago "Rahm wants a bike tax"
So all these liberal, hipster, bike riders who put their lives in danger by riding their bicycles in traffic, because it's good for the planet..Ha Ha!
The jokes on you. Now that Divy bikes are here, Rahm will make bike ownership in Chicago as expensive as car ownership. You'll be forced to rent Divy bikes to enrich rahm's friends, because using your own bike will get expensive.
Soon he will tax your feet! He's an evil piece of shit!
no, dont make excuses for that pos lt. Yes, I write not one but at least 7 or 8 parkers everytime I work VRI. and yes, I do follow the rules and park the car where it is supposed to go. Im talking about LT KANE. He thinks he is talking to 8 year old children and needs to threaten everyone in the room with no partner requests and how his little girls upstairs might have to move a car while doing partner requests and put people on the list. I have always returned the car where it is supposed to go. I have always brought in activity. I have never fallen asleep during vri. Im sure people dont do anything, they fall asleep and they park the car where ever.. we all know who they are but He thinks he needs to talk to everyone like they are children. GFY! Im tired of your speech. Start talking to people like they are adults and stop making your own rules because your girls upstairs dont like it. I work 011 all the time, most of the time im in 011 because im a north sider and there is never a threatening speech, no rules on how to park cars and no talking down to the officers out there... LT Kane is just a POS who is gonna show everyone who is boss now. Ive worked with him when he was a blue shirt and worked in the same district as him as a sgt.. trust me, it goes much deeper with this guy. He has a past of screwing with coppers all the time. He gets off on showing everyone HE is boss and YOU WILL listen to him or else. He hasnt changed a bit in 15 years. when he worked a beat car he always tried to play the hard guy role to the public and to other coppers on the watch.
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I always sleep at VRI. I have sweet dreams when I do.
"POLICE CADET...
ESSENTIAL DUTIES:..."
Hell- they got more duties than the Watch Operations Lt- Field Lt and Tac Lt combined!
A large majority of coppers aren't gun guys. They buy their duty weapon and maybe a smaller off-duty piece and those are the only two guns they own for the rest of their lives. So most guys could really give two shits about this kind of stuff. Their more worried about VRI checks than they are about the hold this city, state and country are trying to put on them.
I think society in general thinks this way.
On September 11, 2013, the Chicago City Council repealed the law requiring the registration of firearms and the law requiring a city issued firearm owners permit.
Is this something that can be legally fought under a CBA Grievance? Or a Court Challenge?
12/30/2013 03:31:00 PM
Sure, if you can only find the article, etc. in the contract that is violated by the city's action. Court would be the place. But with the upcoming battle over pension changes I guess the union will have it's hands full on the legal front.
You can lead the charge and start collecting a legal fund to mount a challenge. I will kick in a few bucks.
Just ignore them and their stupid illegal little rules.
1204 pm Why don't you use your money to buy a dictionary so next time you can use the correct word. It is whether not weather.
Anonymous said...
Not true. You police know darn well you can shoot someone and get away with it. Whatever tangle you get into when your off duty you know the responding officer is going to take your side 100 percent so I can't buy you crying the blues. You and your fellow officers have get out of jail free cards and john public needs bail money and must hire an attorney. I agree concealed carry is really going to get the entire south and west side of Chicago into a shooting gallery. Not something I want to see.
Hey moron, you obviously spend too much time watching too much television. G find another blog to spew your bullshit, your nothing but a joke on this blog.
Where did our fearless leader shields get sent/dumped to????
12/30/2013 03:03:00 PM
To 018 from 019
Where's the transfer order????
Fuck those bitches!!!!!Don't register anything you don't carry. Theyre relying on you to rat yourself out.
$$$$$$$$$$. Sorry, the dollar outweighs all. I really dont care about the contract, other coppers and your problems. You want me to register my gun sure I really dont care. You say I have to blow after a shooting no problem, I dont drink before or at work so again no problem. You say I have to fill out more reports now for shootings making more work for me, who cares, after all I am at work so why not work. What Im getting at is im no hard charger, but im also no dog. I dont like coppers who are puds. 90 percent of this job is puds. You can cry not to work VRI because the city "screws us".. again, I dont care. Its a job. I do my work, arrest people when I must, I write my mover, 5 parkers and try to get an ANOV or two each tour and back up my fellow officers. Its not a hard job. I will work vri weather all of you hate it or not beause after all money is wayyy more important than any of you. Its all about my family. I work vri to pay for housing for my kids in college and take them on awesome trips. Last november I took my wife and kids to hawaii for a week and a half. We have gone to mexico, florida and me and the wife went to wine country in california.. all on the cities dime. Our cars are paid off and life is good. $$$ can make life easier and it can also bring happiness to your family and allow you to spend more time with them in the long run and to do great things with them.. So sorry, my family is much more important than any of you and your contracts or city screwing us. Im retiring in 14 months and none of you mean anything to me, its all about family.
12/30/2013 12:04:00 PM
You sound like a real nice guy. I bet everyone really enjoys knowing you
12/30/2013 05:35:00 PM
Actually I am a real nice guy. I'm as laid back as they come. Why am I not nice? Because I'm calling the knob job coppers on this job out?? Who cares about them. I am nice to my co workers and treat them with respect.. But after working hours it ends there. I have a much better life outside this dept. this job is not life, it's not a way of life or something that makes me different than any other citizen out there. Too many cops think they are do self important because they are the police. No, we're not. Get over yourselves. I'm a very friendly person. Don't mistake my words for my actions towards people. At work you must be cordial and respectful but outside of work is another story... Like here for example is a great place to vent.
"Hi. Just wanted to let you guys know that they screwed over the officers that retired and opted to pay for their medical insurance. It went up 40% thanks to Obamacare."
You didn't see that coming?
And being a "Captain" for Daley and the machine, you helped this happen.
>>> Anonymous said...
Retired CPD 2010...moved out to Az. Pay 1/2 the taxes in beautiful Phoenix ...<<<
He forgot to mention that it was 69 degrees and sunny today in Phoenix. (I'm out of here in June-Sept.)
Also about those "No firearms"
signs, my firearm is concealed. Unless I have to go through a metal detector or a search it stays with me and no one ever knows.
OT
Still can't believe that they're ending this sgt list with only 30 getting promoted. What a joke.
When they screw you on your pension, you will know why they want to know about your other guns. Expect to have to leave your duty weapon at work at end of shift soon.
12/30/2013 06:47:00 PM
Expect to leave deeeeeeeeeeez
"Not true. You police know darn well you can shoot someone and get away with it... you crying the blues... You and your fellow officers have get out of jail free cards and john public needs bail money...
Blow me. I know the law, it's my job. And yes I'll protect myself with it too.
Anonymous said...Anonymous said...Just curious...If my spouse owns a weapon and we keep it in the same gunsafe as mine, who can really say whos is whosjust sayin
12/30/2013 02:39:00 AM
As long as she purchased the guns. There is a paper trail on legally purchased firearms. And you can't sell them to her, there is an order against that too.12/30/2013 08:57:00 AM
Can you buy something for your wife and gift them to her?
Hi. Just wanted to let you guys know that they screwed over the officers that retired and opted to pay for their medical insurance. It went up 40% thanks to Obamacare. Please let officers that are thinking of retiring before they are eligible for free healthcare DON'T. If I knew this would happen I would have waited until I was eligible.
12/30/2013 07:42:00 PM
Can you please elaborate? Are you referring to officers who retired between 55 -59 years of age and were promised free healthcare?
Then why the fuck hasn't FOP given the drunk a Vote of No Confidence? Quick to condemn Weis. He didn't close down districts or change the Detectives Division. Not to mention fuck up everything about our police department. One bad decision with Cozzi that Kirby advised him on. Martin, Rodriguez, Hillard, and Cline big fat zeros who did Daley's bidding. Weis was the best thing that happened to us. What's right is right!!!! 94 million dollars in VRI!!!!! Not one extra dime in raises for us. At least Weis published all the Meritorious Names. Guys like Wiberg and Cline couldn't hide behind their Daddy. Both tried to make Lt under Weis but he didn't bow down to them. We have a drunk as our Supt. and a FOP president that was the Mayor's whipping boy. I am so ashamed to be CPD!!!
This is something I am very conflicted about.
As much as I hate BIG GOVERNMENT, Rahm and McDufass, thinking over a 35 plus year career with the CPD I remember how many times I was able to return a cop's gun to the officer.
Sometimes befor they knew they were lost and reported; often with no paperwork at all. Just because I could check a registration.
I’ve always have been amazed at how few of us are true gun nuts. For most of us it’s a tool.
But if there were more ranges that were easy to get to I think we would see a lot more shooting competitions going on. I’ve always felt that in the City’s eye we were second class citizens but in the eyes of the Department we were 3rd class citizens to them.
But it might be nice to have a quality collection of classic pieces.
I heard that Mark Donahue gave all of his City Wide guys brand new Lugers after his last election as President of FOP.
"$$$$$$$$$$. Sorry, the dollar outweighs all. I really dont care about the contract, other coppers and your problems. You want me to register my gun sure I really dont care. You say I have to blow after a shooting no problem, I dont drink before or at work so again no problem. You say I have to fill out more reports now for shootings making more work for me, who cares, after all I am at work so why not work. What Im getting at is im no hard charger, but im also no dog. I dont like coppers who are puds. 90 percent of this job is puds. You can cry not to work VRI because the city "screws us".. again, I dont care. Its a job. I do my work, arrest people when I must, I write my mover, 5 parkers and try to get an ANOV or two each tour and back up my fellow officers. Its not a hard job. I will work vri weather all of you hate it or not beause after all money is wayyy more important than any of you. Its all about my family. I work vri to pay for housing for my kids in college and take them on awesome trips. Last november I took my wife and kids to hawaii for a week and a half. We have gone to mexico, florida and me and the wife went to wine country in california.. all on the cities dime. Our cars are paid off and life is good. $$$ can make life easier and it can also bring happiness to your family and allow you to spend more time with them in the long run and to do great things with them.. So sorry, my family is much more important than any of you and your contracts or city screwing us. Im retiring in 14 months and none of you mean anything to me, its all about...
AMEN!! Unlike u though I only have 9 years on but couldn't agree with u more. Haters like the blogger "i fart in your general direction" is a goof ball. He's missing out on thousands of $. He either has no family or hates his family and doesn't want or need the EASY money, OR he's running on next FOP ticket. He has a hidden agenda noneless because unless ur sitting on millions would u not work overtime to SIT in a car with a co worker of UR choosing, write 1 Parker, maybe a contact card, eat lunch, and watch a red box! Cha Ching!
No matter what the city will fuck us in contracts, we have no unity in this Department, so if the city throws us a VRI bone I'm going to chew the hell out of it till its gone. The smart ones will.Again, Cha Ching. Rome in the spring - I can't wait!!!!!!
Incoming Boston mayor, police clash over AR-15 proposal
Published December 30, 2013
Boston police are clashing with the city's incoming mayor over a proposal to arm some officers with AR-15 rifles.
Mayor-elect Martin Walsh came out against the plan over the weekend. The Boston Police Department had been pushing for a limited number of officers to carry the high-powered rifles, in light of recent mass shootings as well as the Boston Marathon bombing earlier this year.
But after the incoming mayor initially stayed mum on the idea, a spokeswoman for Walsh said he's not on board -- not yet, anyway.
"Mayor-elect Walsh is opposed to the AR-15 rifles," spokeswoman Kathryn Norton told FoxNews.com in an email. "Unless otherwise convinced by the Boston Police Department, he does not think they are necessary."
Police officials had pushed for the rifle purchases in response to mass shootings like the one in Newtown, Conn. The Boston Marathon bombing happened after the plan was already in the works but nevertheless fueled the proposal.
One unnamed officer told the Boston Herald, which first reported Walsh's stance on the issue, that "it gives you at least a fighting chance if you go into something where suspects have more firepower than you."
Under the plan, according to MyFoxBoston.com, the city would buy 33 AR-15 rifles, at $2,500 apiece. They would go to two trained officers in all 11 districts of Boston.
But the plan needs the mayor's sign-off, and a number of critics had spoken out against the idea, questioning whether giving officers such rifles would increase the chances of innocent people getting shot.
"I don't believe arming them with assault weapons is going to make them any safer," City Councilor Charles Yancey said, according to MyFoxBoston.com.
Two words: Class Action
12/30/2013 12:04:00 PM
. . . 90 percent of this job is puds . . .arrest people when I must, I write my mover, 5 parkers and try to get an ANOV or two . . .
You must be one of Gary's lackeys doing what he wants just so you can go to Hawaii, Mexico . . .
You're the sheeple doing Gary and Rahms work like a good tool!
Enjoy your VRI you PUD!!
Anonymous said...
Not true. You police know darn well you can shoot someone and get away with it. Whatever tangle you get into when your off duty you know the responding officer is going to take your side 100 percent so I can't buy you crying the blues. You and your fellow officers have get out of jail free cards and john public needs bail money and must hire an attorney. I agree concealed carry is really going to get the entire south and west side of Chicago into a shooting gallery. Not something I want to see.
12/30/2013 06:19:00 PM
Unless you just woke up from a long sleep, the south and west sides are shooting galleries. It is about time the honest citizen gets a break and can defend himself. As far as the rest of your comment, you must be a liberal college professor who lives in Evanston or Winnetka and really does not have a clue of what happens when a police officer uses deadly force. You judge by what you read in the media which was written by liberal reporters .
"There is no purpose in this rule change aside from screwing with Officers."
Foe example, any complaint of domestic abuse/violence justified or unfounded, the department will have an exact list/number of weapons that will have to be surrendered if ordered by the court until the case disposition.
Just so you all you badge toters know,because of the new CCW law when I put a no guns sign up that means you too. If you are off duty you cannot go into the Post Office with your gun,or into a school or in a posted zone.
By not openly supporting the RESTORATION of the Second Amendement(Full con-con carry) you have put yourselves into a new trick bag.....just wait.
12/30/2013 07:02:00 AM
I think dick heads like you should be forced to wear a badge that tells everyone they are not armed. If you are so against CCW then be proud of it and advertise the fact.
I just keep my other weapons in my other home up in Lake Geneva, the dept has no right to know about them....
Anonymous said...
Cicero residents have to register their guns. I wonder if that is legal.
12/30/2013 12:23:00 AM
Its not legal,Un-Constitutional,violation of the Second Amendment.
Felons are not legally required to register guns per SCOTUS.
how about on duty too?....call the police, they see the sign that says "no guns".....they wait outside, you handle it pal
12/30/2013 05:42:00 PM
Hey CPS grad,does not apply to on duty,official business type situations.
Its a curious new legal situation in Illinois.Remember this is Illinois and its all about making money for the lawyers.
LEOSA: you are civilian,you can carry in all 50 States but have to abide by those States laws and carry restriction,no exemption for you.
If a business posts a sign saying no guns,applies to you too.
Repeal of FOID was mentioned:
(430 ILCS 65/16) (from Ch. 38, par. 83-16)
Sec. 16. When 2% of the number of registered voters in the State desire to pass upon the question of whether the General Assembly should repeal this Act regulating the acquisition, possession and transfer of firearms and firearm ammunition, they shall, at least 78 days before a regular election to be held throughout the State, file in the office of the State Board of Elections, a petition directed to the Board in accordance with the general election law. The petition shall be composed of county petitions from each of the counties throughout the State and each county petition shall contain the signatures of at least 2% of the number of registered voters in the county. The petition shall request that the question "Should the General Assembly repeal the Act entitled 'An Act relating to the acquisition, possession and transfer of firearms and firearm ammunition, to provide a penalty for the violation thereof and to make an appropriation in connection therewith,' approved August 3, 1967, as amended?" be submitted to the voters of the State at the next ensuing State-wide election at which such question may be acted upon.
(Source: P.A. 81-1489.)
(430 ILCS 65/16.1) (from Ch. 38, par. 83-16.1)
Sec. 16.1. A petition for the submission of the proposition shall be in substantially the following form:
To the State Board of Elections
The undersigned, residents and registered voters of the State of Illinois, respectfully petition that you cause to be submitted, in the manner provided by the general election law to the voters of the State of Illinois, at the next State-wide election, the proposition "Should the General Assembly repeal an Act entitled 'An Act relating to the acquisition, possession and transfer of firearms and firearm ammunition, to provide a penalty for the violation thereof and to make an appropriation in connection therewith', approved August 3, 1967, as amended?"
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Such petition shall conform to the requirements of the general election law. The Board shall certify the question to the proper election officials who shall submit the question at an election in accordance with the general election law. Upon request of any citizen for a reproduced copy of the petition and paying or tendering to the State Board of Elections the costs of making the copy, the Board shall immediately make, or cause to be made a reproduced copy of such petition. The Board shall also deliver to such person his official certification that such copy is a true copy of the original, stating the day when such original was filed in its office.
(Source: P.A. 81-1489.)
(430 ILCS 65/16-3) (from Ch. 38, par. 83-16.3)
Sec. 16-3. The Secretary of State shall cause the question to be plainly printed upon separate ballots as follows:
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Should the General Assembly repeal the Act
entitled "An Act relating to the acquisition, YES
possession and transfer of firearms and
firearm ammunition, to provide a penalty ---------------
for the violation thereof and to make an
appropriation in connection therewith", NO
approved August 3, 1967, as amended?
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(Source: P.A. 77-1819.)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hi. Just wanted to let you guys know that they screwed over the officers that retired and opted to pay for their medical insurance. It went up 40% thanks to Obamacare. Please let officers that are thinking of retiring before they are eligible for free healthcare DON'T. If I knew this would happen I would have waited until I was eligible.
12/30/2013 07:42:00 PM
Can you please elaborate? Are you referring to officers who retired between 55 -59 years of age and were promised free healthcare?
12/31/2013 02:02:00 AM
Re-read the post. They are obviously referring to "the officers that retired and opted to pay for their medical insurance". Pay attention to the 'opted to pay for their medical' part.
It's called reading comprehension. No, the poster is not referring to you.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
When they screw you on your pension, you will know why they want to know about your other guns. Expect to have to leave your duty weapon at work at end of shift soon.
12/30/2013 06:47:00 PM
Expect to leave deeeeeeeeeeez
12/31/2013 12:02:00 AM
Not while I OWN my duty weapon, I won't. When the Dept decides to purchase ten thousand duty weapons and issue them and guarantee their maintenance, cleanliness and safety, and take on the liability associated with them, then, maybe.
Hopefully the FLOP will do something about this. Our duty weapons, or weapons we will carry off duty I understand; however, they have no right to know what guns we have for hunting, target shooting, collecting, etc; etc. Spread the word to join the NRA and ISRA. Total it costs $50 a year. They are the only organizations fighting for our gun rights.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not true. You police know darn well you can shoot someone and get away with it. Whatever tangle you get into when your off duty you know the responding officer is going to take your side 100 percent so I can't buy you crying the blues. You and your fellow officers have get out of jail free cards and john public needs bail money and must hire an attorney. I agree concealed carry is really going to get the entire south and west side of Chicago into a shooting gallery. Not something I want to see.
12/30/2013 06:19:00 PM
You've got to get out more; you're living in the 1960's.
By the time I came on, in the 80's, the days of being 'taken care of' by the responding copper was OVER. Long OVER.
Anonymous said...
Not true. You police know darn well you can shoot someone and get away with it. Whatever tangle you get into when your off duty you know the responding officer is going to take your side 100 percent so I can't buy you crying the blues. You and your fellow officers have get out of jail free cards and john public needs bail money and must hire an attorney. I agree concealed carry is really going to get the entire south and west side of Chicago into a shooting gallery. Not something I want to see.
12/30/2013 06:19:00 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh God, thanks for all the stupid people you put on this earth. They make life so amusing.
I can see this for duty weapons only. If you have four or five cops shooting at one bad guy you better be able to sort out who fired what gun and be ale to do it right away. Imagine what the lawyers would do with this if we don't.
There also have be instances where one cop picks up another cops identical firearm from a gun locker or desk or somewhere.
We had a case like that in 010 and the officer didn't know it until he was involved in a shooting.
I don't like it, but it may be necessary for weapons we carry on the job.
Retired CPD 2010...moved out to Az. Pay 1/2 the taxes in beautiful Phoenix ...<<<
He forgot to mention that it was 69 degrees and sunny today in Phoenix. (I'm out of here in June-Sept.)
But you maintain your "legal" residence here to avoid the income tax on your pension, don't you ?
This is something I am very conflicted about.
As much as I hate BIG GOVERNMENT, Rahm and McDufass, thinking over a 35 plus year career with the CPD I remember how many times I was able to return a cop's gun to the officer.
Sometimes befor they knew they were lost and reported; often with no paperwork at all. Just because I could check a registration.
You did a fine job, officer. Used to be like that with star,id guns, saved plenty of suspensions
Anonymous said...
Retired CPD 2010...moved out to Az. Pay 1/2 the taxes in beautiful Phoenix ...<<<
He forgot to mention that it was 69 degrees and sunny today in Phoenix. (I'm out of here in June-Sept.)
Also about those "No firearms"
signs, my firearm is concealed. Unless I have to go through a metal detector or a search it stays with me and no one ever knows.
12/30/2013 11:28:00 PM
Retired moved to Lasvegas, pay no state taxes and half property taxes and have the same weather. Same situation with the guns too
Anonymous said...
Hi. Just wanted to let you guys know that they screwed over the officers that retired and opted to pay for their medical insurance. It went up 40% thanks to Obamacare. Please let officers that are thinking of retiring before they are eligible for free healthcare DON'T. If I knew this would happen I would have waited until I was eligible.
12/30/2013 07:42:00 PM
Can you please elaborate? Are you referring to officers who retired between 55 -59 years of age and were promised free healthcare?
Am retired, check deposited today. My wife and my healthcase went up $64.00 a month, brother is single retired, his went up $37.00 a month. This is not because of Obamacare(I'm not a fan of him) but it only has to do with the city cutting their share of the retirement healthcare cost. They cut it from 55% to like 38 to40% this year, another cut next and in the last year the final cut and after that no subsidy for the retirees healthcare. Thats the reason
Actually I am a real nice guy. I'm as laid back as they come. Why am I not nice? Because I'm calling the knob job coppers on this job out?? Who cares about them. I am nice to my co workers and treat them with respect.. But after working hours it ends there. I have a much better life outside this dept. this job is not life, it's not a way of life or something that makes me different than any other citizen out there. Too many cops think they are do self important because they are the police. No, we're not. Get over yourselves. I'm a very friendly person. Don't mistake my words for my actions towards people. At work you must be cordial and respectful but outside of work is another story... Like here for example is a great place to vent
If what you say is true and you are a happy man, then what is there to vent?
Time to reduce Cpd by another 2,000
Civilians can handle non violent case reports
No more calls of child won't go to school , baby daddy. Wants his clothes at 2:00am
Most coppers can't work a full shift , either 5-10 minutes late for roll call or leaving early
Make these idiots swipe in and out every shift or dock their pay one hour
Think this one COMPLETELY through. Anytime you use your weapon on or off duty you are acting as a police officer. In like fashion you need to quaify with those weapons. If you qualify with an approved and registered and get into a shooting you will be acting as the police you are in good shape. You get into a shoot with an unregistered, unqualified weapon the pd can say that you were not acting as a PO because you did not use a sanctioned weapon. Try defending yourself as a private citizen when the city wont indemnify. Just play the game and follow the rule.....not everything is a part of the conspiracy.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Time to reduce Cpd by another 2,000
Civilians can handle non violent case reports
No more calls of child won't go to school , baby daddy. Wants his clothes at 2:00am
Most coppers can't work a full shift , either 5-10 minutes late for roll call or leaving early
Make these idiots swipe in and out every shift or dock their pay one hour
12/31/2013 01:49:00PM
Seems you can't stay off the internet even when you're on vacation in Indonesia, Rahm.
Actually I am a real nice guy. I'm as laid back as they come. Why am I not nice? Because I'm calling the knob job coppers on this job out?? Who cares about them. I am nice to my co workers and treat them with respect.. But after working hours it ends there. I have a much better life outside this dept. this job is not life, it's not a way of life or something that makes me different than any other citizen out there. Too many cops think they are do self important because they are the police. No, we're not. Get over yourselves. I'm a very friendly person. Don't mistake my words for my actions towards people. At work you must be cordial and respectful but outside of work is another story... Like here for example is a great place to vent
If what you say is true and you are a happy man, then what is there to vent?
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Obviously something set me off in order for me to vent. If you read above in my original posting I was commenting on the moron who is a dog and is trying to convince everyone to not work VRI because he is worried about the dept and the contract blah blah blah.. This shows me he has only this dept and job in his life.. Don't try to convince others to be scared and miserable like you. I don't care about the dept or others.. I care about my family and I work VRI for them to provide them with great things.. The miserable fool above doesn't get that's what this job is REALLY about.. Making it work for you. That's why I vent, because I despise many of my miserable, bitter and arrogant coworkers who think they are special because they are the police.. We are no different than anyone else
To they guy who keeps arguing about posted signs that say no guns off duty, gfy buddy! If im off duty and carrying concealed, I will bring my gun wherever the fuck I want, you will never know! If some shit hits the fan and I stop a shooting or and armed robbery of your establishment you will give me gift card to come patronize your establishment or store as a thank you. Take your stupid bleeding heart argument and cram it up your ass. I have a sign for you... I'm not the other comment either about if there is a sign while on duty, but I believe what he wrote. If I pull up on duty and read your sign, fu, your on your own. Your sign applys to concealed carry civilians, not off duty LE. If you want it to apply to off duty LE, we will oblige you and take it a step further to on duty as well. Guns are so scary. Rant off. Sorry for the long post scc.
Hey 1258 on 30Dec- Tell us more about Homeland Security please l
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hi. Just wanted to let you guys know that they screwed over the officers that retired and opted to pay for their medical insurance. It went up 40% thanks to Obamacare. Please let officers that are thinking of retiring before they are eligible for free healthcare DON'T. If I knew this would happen I would have waited until I was eligible.
12/30/2013 07:42:00 PM
Can you please elaborate? Are you referring to officers who retired between 55 -59 years of age and were promised free healthcare?
12/31/2013 02:02:00 AM
Re-read the post. They are obviously referring to "the officers that retired and opted to pay for their medical insurance". Pay attention to the 'opted to pay for their medical' part.
It's called reading comprehension. No, the poster is not referring to you.
Holy moly, mister or missus angry. The original post was not written very well (improper grammar) therefore, the run on sentence was not clearly comprehensible.
Furthermore, we have all known for a long time now that Rahm is not going to pay the city's portion of retiree health insurance and that retirees will begin to pay more in 2014. Which is also why the original post confused me even more as to what he/she was talking about.
Also about those "No firearms"
signs, my firearm is concealed. Unless I have to go through a metal detector or a search it stays with me and no one ever knows.
12/30/2013 11:28:00 PM
and what happens when you get involved in shooting in a gun free zone when you are off duty or retired??
>>>12/30/2013 11:28:00 PM
and what happens when you get involved in shooting in a gun free zone when you are off duty or retired??
12/31/2013 08:39:00 PM<<<
My gun will have saved my life and the lives of those around me.
Even the life of the idiot who posted the sign.
And it is better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
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