Monday, January 06, 2014

DSS Grievance

If anyone keeps track of the General Orders, especially during Exam time, the Department amended one about the District Operations, Field Lieutenant, DSS and Operational Lieutenant Duties. We still don't know why they got rid of the Desk Sergeant (and all acting Desk Sergeants), but now the Department appears to be eliminating the Lieutenant rank and the meaning behind it. The Sergeants are again grieving the out-of-grade provision:
  • OT: Sergeants' association filed a grievance about the new DSS order. Sergeants received an email from Ade. Ade mentioned how sergeants won the DSS acting of out-of-grade grievance and the city is attempting to circumvent that decision. One would think the fact that our contract recently passed city council and the changes was never mentioned during negotiations would also be an issue.

    How does the city negotiate a contract for a year, then even before the new contract takes effect, changes the roles and responsibilities of a sergeant? Why does any union sit at the table with the city?

    If it ain't broke don't fix it. Everything was fine before the idiots started changing our department. Never should have changed the desk sgt and watch commander positions! Since that was done we have had nothing but problems. New sergeants have no experience to guide them, what a shame.
We got an e-mail from someone on the Lieutenants Board of Directors. It seems Gulliford admitted during a recent meeting that the only reason for this changing of the Sergeant duties is that Rahm is pissed the Sergeants dared to win their grievance and ordered that no one is to ever receive out-of-grade pay again. That includes acting Desk Sergeants, acting FTO's (hence the order detailing unattended PPO's to Sergeants and Desks) and ET's (no more crime lab pay). Lieutenants already lost their out-of-grade opportunities and Captains (XO's) don't get anything for acting up as Commanders anymore.

At the meeting, it was also revealed that every exempt there agreed that this was a bunch of bullshit, but no one wanted to buck Rahm and McJerseyShore, so they're eating it. The feeling was also that the "squad policing" concept is doomed, but no one dares speak up against a program that sucked so bad, New York discontinued it 10 years ago.

Great examples of leadership we got here.

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106 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scc your source is somewhat correct. 1 exempt of Greek heritage spoke up about this issue with McCarthy. He went at length as how this was detrimental to the chain of command and operations. McCarthy of course disagreed and subsequently put this exempt on the top of his shit list. TRUE.

1/06/2014 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


but jersey just said on the radio that rahm allowed him to remove politics from the police force...so i don't see why any brass would be scared to go against the mayor..

/sarcasm

1/06/2014 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The bosses don't stand up for themselves what makes anyone think they would stand up for the blueshirts

1/06/2014 01:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Strength in numbers. Need I say more?

1/06/2014 01:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gulliford is just a old man who is completely out of touch with today's world. Oh, and he can't stand up for himself because he is scared of Rahm. Buhbye!

1/06/2014 01:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great examples of leadership we got here. We hear this much more now a days. What a shame!

1/06/2014 01:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Da Mayor and his boss cop rule with an iron hand. Don't cross da mayor. Someday he just might be da president.

1/06/2014 02:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ball-less wonders.

1/06/2014 02:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is it true you will not get d2a pay if you are selected in the mounted unit? if so, why would any one want to do this with no increase in pay, and have to buy thousands in uniforms? correct me if i am wrong

1/06/2014 02:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Mexican says;

Was that before, or AFTER, that piece-of-shit RHAM came back from his most-recent vacation (in the middle of the worst cold-snap in recent memory)??!!!!

1/06/2014 02:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

None of the yes men exempts want to rock the boat and upset their own gravy train.
Apparently when they made exempt they must have agreed to check their voices at the door.
What a complete crock of shit this is all orchestrated by an egotistical, Napolean like, slimeball named Rahm.

1/06/2014 02:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Great examples of leadership we got here."

Many of the true leaders were driven out under Weis. The rest were driven out under McCarthy.

Neither Daley nor Emanuel wanted bosses who were part of the "old boys network", who knew how to get things done, could depend on each other for support, and would stand up to the mayor when necessary.

Loading the department with yes men keeps it weak and responsive to mayoral whim.

Now we're left with a bunch of supervisors, not leaders, many of whom couldn't find their won ass in the dark with both hands.

The rest are just biding their time, hoping that they can outlast McCarthy or make it to retirement age.

1/06/2014 02:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We will see about bosses not speaking up when with this squad program fails and districts are in a constant backlog of jobs. The only time they will voice there opinion is when there is no activity and they yell at us blue shirts then they will act tough only to us because when they go to compsat they won't have any balls to tell Mc New York the truth! And just blame us.

1/06/2014 04:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha Luv my blue shirt There are Zero Leaders in the white shirt technocrats

1/06/2014 04:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>Anonymous said...
Da Mayor and his boss cop rule with an iron hand. Don't cross da mayor. Someday he just might be da president.

1/06/2014 02:01:00 AM<<<

I doubt Obama would anoint Rahm over Hillary.

Sad to say, if many nationally did not vote for Romney because he was a Mormon they will not vote for Rahm because he's Jewish.

Which means we may be stuck with this prick for a long while.

1/06/2014 05:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This micro mgt started with Phil. He put all yes men,women into positions they had no business being in. He wanted to hear yes boss thats it . The baton was then passed through the ranks and it continues today more than ever.

1/06/2014 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Scc your source is somewhat correct. 1 exempt of Greek heritage spoke up about this issue with McCarthy. He went at length as how this was detrimental to the chain of command and operations. McCarthy of course disagreed and subsequently put this exempt on the top of his shit list. TRUE.

Not a fan of this guy but at least he had the balls to speak up! Unlike these other cowards who never say a word.......

1/06/2014 07:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
is it true you will not get d2a pay if you are selected in the mounted unit? if so, why would any one want to do this with no increase in pay, and have to buy thousands in uniforms? correct me if i am wrong

1/06/2014 02:09:00 AM


Mounted Unit gets D2 pay. D2a is detective. And you go to a unit like that for the sheer pride in serving the City. Marine Unit is D2 also.

1/06/2014 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's because all the major white shirts are clout hacks. They're going to sit and keep their mouths shut they're not men or leaders they're pussies. Period

1/06/2014 07:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When is the next Sgts class starting? They were doing merit interviews again last week.

1/06/2014 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Scc your source is somewhat correct. 1 exempt of Greek heritage spoke up about this issue with McCarthy. He went at length as how this was detrimental to the chain of command and operations. McCarthy of course disagreed and subsequently put this exempt on the top of his shit list. TRUE.

1/06/2014 12:11:00 AM

Im confused I didn't think Trahanus was exempt any more?

1/06/2014 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The days of exempt bosses as a matter of fact any bosses that got respect are over! I came on in 85 back then most bosses had balls, stood up for the officer, now they are weak, shit starts at the top, we have a leaderless police dept, we have no respect for any of them, as they cannot even stand up for themselves!

1/06/2014 07:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fact- Everytime the city loses a grievance of this kind the commander of MLAS is ordered to re-write the general order so it can't be beat in a future grievance...tit for tat

1/06/2014 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Rahm enjoys circumventing the contract may be Blu-Flu is a fair reply.

White shirts in fear!

No loyalty to stand together in Compstats.
Don't believe for a second that your brave paper tiger exempts will ever go to bat for you if you step on shit.
You will be under a bus. explain that to your family.

1/06/2014 09:08:00 AM  
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1/06/2014 09:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Scc your source is somewhat correct. 1 exempt of Greek heritage spoke up about this issue with McCarthy. He went at length as how this was detrimental to the chain of command and operations. McCarthy of course disagreed and subsequently put this exempt on the top of his shit list. TRUE.

1/06/2014 12:11:00 AM

Does this exempt of Greek heritage have a younger brother who has a Napolean complex?

1/06/2014 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nobody is selected to the mounted unit, you VOLUNTEER, just like you volunteer to work VRI , CTA , tact, and OCD. If you don't like the fact that you are an at will employee, which me they can change you work schedule and duties. If you don't like them you can go back to a beat car where your contractual rights are protected. PLUS, You think any patrol officer CAN,like you stated get selected to the mounted unit or marine unit? You have to be connected to get into either of those units, so who gives a fuck about your d2a pay, you should be happy you have enough juice to get there! The guys in tact, gangs, fugitive apprehension,and narcotics do more work than those horse jockeys and don't get d2a.

1/06/2014 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

etechs will soon be a thing of the past--- dic's will be trained to process crime scenes....

1/06/2014 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tiny Dancer and McTool are destroying this department. The gold stars don't have the balls to tell McTool or they might lose their spot and end up in a district. They are only looking out for themselves. The blue shirts and sgts continue to work VRI and special, they are only looking out for themselves. Nobody sticks together on this job, that is what is killing us and Tiny Dancer and McTool are laughing their asses off. Well done, officers!

1/06/2014 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic, just heard Dillard on the John Kass show saying police and fire deserve to be treated fair in negotiations. I believe he would be the best candidate for us for governor.

1/06/2014 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Georgas doesn't have to worry about pleasing McCarthy, he gets his orders right from Rahm and will I repeat will be our next top boss in the department. He handled NATO, every big event , Marathon, etc. they better promote him soon or I just bet that some federal agency is just wanting to get him for a job big time.

1/06/2014 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Mr. ED said...

is it true you will not get d2a pay if you are selected in the mounted unit? if so, why would any one want to do this with no increase in pay, and have to buy thousands in uniforms? correct me if i am wrong

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Cause' chicks dig horses.

And that's NO on D-2A pay AND D-2 pay for that matter.

1/06/2014 10:48:00 AM  
Anonymous HIRING PLAN said...

SCC:


The fact that the Mayor does not want people acting out of grade comes from a study from the Inspector General's office.

The below studies can be found on the City of Chicago website.


GO TO:

http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/dhr/supp_info/hiring_plans.html

1/06/2014 10:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now all officers detailed to court section have been assigned to new DOG. Either fri-sat or sun-mon. Someone cried seniority regarding a small request to help out and now all suffer. Oakes has his nickers in a bunch.
We always hurt ourselves being shell fish.

1/06/2014 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this department is only getting worse along with this city, county, and state. can not leave here soon enough.

1/06/2014 11:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
is it true you will not get d2a pay if you are selected in the mounted unit? if so, why would any one want to do this with no increase in pay, and have to buy thousands in uniforms? correct me if i am wrong

1/06/2014 02:09:00 AM

Just because you get selected doesn't mean you are on the mounted unit. You have to successfully complete the training and then you will get assigned. At least half of those that get selected don't complete the training for one reason or another. Once assigned, you will get the D2 pay, not D2a. This is no different from promotions, when promoted, you have to go through training and until you do, you maintain the salary you were already at.

1/06/2014 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city walks all over our contract time and time again. Yet most of us do nothing. In case you are wondering, yes, I am doing my part.

1/06/2014 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so.....the City Council is full of alderman who say, to the Mayor..."yes sir, boss (my master)!...and the CPD command staff say to GMac..."yes, sir, boss (my master)!.....is there anyone around who will say....a) no sir, your idea is horseshit; b) okay, but.....got to hell.....

1/06/2014 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

read between the lines: ADE may have sold out the sgt's............again.

1/06/2014 01:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kirby put her walking papers in today. Unknown on the exact date.

1/06/2014 01:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems as though the department wants to get rid of Lt's and Capt.'s but yet they just promoted people to those ranks. This department is like working in bazaroworld.

1/06/2014 02:15:00 PM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

A large percentage of today's Exempts did not score high enough on their sergeant's exam to be promoted off of the list. They would still be wearing blue shirts if not for the merit system.

1/06/2014 02:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Noone downtown gives a rats ass about patrol--"...The backbone of our department. .." They have rewarded the do nothing Lts with a means nothing job--rewarded the doing the job Sgts by granting them all the headaches--and continued screwing over the POs by pretending the watch secy is not staffed and that they don't do at least half the desk work plus all the walk in reports...While we all no longer give a shit about the chain of command, the people we work for or the department

1/06/2014 03:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh joy ..now the Big tall nasty One in 020 can have her perch back at the desk being a miserable human being to everyone she comes in contact with. Sad sad life she leads

1/06/2014 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kirby put her walking papers in today. Unknown on the exact date.

1/06/2014 01:28:00 PM

And what high-paying, gravy job does she have lined up for herself?

1/06/2014 04:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With the additional duties assigned to sergeants, there's an even greater need to promote some more classes from the current and deserving list.
Sergeants are way understaffed.

1/06/2014 04:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brings me to my next point. The Mayor's Detail. Do these guys train? Do they even carry guns? Is there a shooting test? How do you get on the Mayor's Detail? Why do they make Sgt's pay? Is there a written test?

1/06/2014 04:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Fact- Everytime the city loses a grievance of this kind the commander of MLAS is ordered to re-write the general order so it can't be beat in a future grievance...tit for tat

1/06/2014 08:38:00 AM

This guy is a jag off. Thinks his shit don't stink.

1/06/2014 04:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wayne Guiliford. Talk about a straight up YES man. That is one guy who has been taken care of his whole career. That's a guy that would never stand up to McCrack McCarthy. How come Weis gets a vote of no confidence and McBalls gets away with murdering this dept? Shields you really were Rham's little bitch. Ade you really are such a see out. Rats I tell you. This whole ship us filled with Rats. Georgas are you going to give Spiro the answers to the Lt's test? You know how Mauer's took care of Kennedy and you? No wonder our dept sucks.

1/06/2014 04:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im confused I didn't think Trahanus was exempt any more?

1/06/2014 07:32:00 AM

Um. Penny JONES is not of Greek heritage. Trahanas, her ex, is...

1/06/2014 05:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any word on next sergeants class?

1/06/2014 05:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Now all officers detailed to court section have been assigned to new DOG. Either fri-sat or sun-mon. Someone cried seniority regarding a small request to help out and now all suffer. Oakes has his nickers in a bunch.
We always hurt ourselves being shell fish.

1/06/2014 11:28:00 AM

Boo-fuckin-hoo!!!
I've been in a rotating day off group in a district for 28 years. You had the juice to get into the court section & have the stones to cry about not being off every weekend??

1/06/2014 05:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

class of evidence techs coming soon!!

1/06/2014 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

allegedly, "they" (top brass) are looking for leaders...but Think about it guys...if you were juiced to a certain position, would you want to rock the boat with "what you thought was right?" HELL NO! Look at commander Mcnutty from the 008th district...He was a commander at the 016th district until he got dumped by the head honchos for making a statement about the lack of manpower in the department. Speaking the truth is not as good a being a "yes man" in this department. Why do you think we have a bunch or retards for bosses. Now this Mcnutty is trying to get out of the south-side by bringing in all these new sergeants and being pimpy with working police who don't bring them contact cards, curfews, ect... These are our leaders. I'm not even gonna get started on our union. we're screwed brothers and sisters...I'm glad I have a 5 year plan.

1/06/2014 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>Anonymous said...
It seems as though the department wants to get rid of Lt's and Capt.'s but yet they just promoted people to those ranks. This department is like working in bazaroworld.

1/06/2014 02:15:00 PM<<<

Of course, Why have Lieutenants and Captains when you can get Sergeants to do the job for less money, less pensions less everything.

Thanks McFuckup.

1/06/2014 07:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr south side is correct , same for captain rank
Study hard for the next promotional exam , score high and you to can be passed over by a merit selected , future member of command staff

1/06/2014 07:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Kirby put her walking papers in today. Unknown on the exact date.

1/06/2014 01:28:00 PM

Can't wait to see what cushy spot she gets with the city or state after she retires.

1/06/2014 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bring back John Farrell, it's the Departments only hope.

1/06/2014 08:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most of the exempts are merit-- what would anyone expect?

1/06/2014 08:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We always hurt ourselves being shell fish

You mean he's a crustacean?

1/06/2014 08:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most of the exempts are merit-- what would anyone expect?

All are merit dumb ass. Unless I missed the test for Commander.

1/06/2014 09:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brings me to my next point. The Mayor's Detail. Do these guys train? Do they even carry guns? Is there a shooting test? How do you get on the Mayor's Detail? Why do they make Sgt's pay? Is there a written test?

1/06/2014 04:41:00 PM

The Mayor's Detail is a very tough training course. SEALs would have a tough time making it. Better not try out for it. Scars may heal but the emotional pain will last a life time. Don't try out kid my ass still hasn't healed.

1/06/2014 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been in a rotating day off group in a district for 28 years. You had the juice to get into the court section & have the stones to cry about not being off every weekend??

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I agree with your premise, but we've been working straight shifts by bid for a long time. If you are rotating you work tact. If you work tact, you are a volunteer. In any of the districts a person with 28 years can bid to days. If you ARE in a district and can work days but volunteer for tact, you are an idiot. If you came on at 21 yoa you are almost 50. Which would make you an almost 50 year old idiot and as such you should shut the fuck up.

Next!

1/06/2014 10:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And no snow plows,record accidents,no salt thrown,can say that Daley threw salt and got the streets cleared,Rham has got to go,the teachers couldn't close a school on Friday and waited until Monday cause Rhams on vacation, I know the school remained open for more money cause everything goes back to money,but power is also the culprit here,speed cameras,traffic light cameras ,money money money,He needs a permanent vacation, from being mayor,vote him out!

1/06/2014 10:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...read between the lines: ADE may have sold out the sgt's............again..."

As if he ever worked as a Sgt in patrol---just like the majority of the board- from units, little or no patrol experience

1/06/2014 10:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Most of the exempts are merit-- what would anyone expect?

1/06/2014 08:18:00 PM

Every exempt ... is merit, you idiot. Unless I missed the "Exempt Test" a few years ago. And if you meant their rank before they became exempt, then say that, moron.

1/06/2014 10:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic, just heard Dillard on the John Kass show saying police and fire deserve to be treated fair in negotiations. I believe he would be the best candidate for us for governor.

1/06/2014 10:18:00 AM

Dude! They all like the fucking police and fire when running for election! Its when they get elected thats the problem. Their "fairness" for us disappears faster than an Aaron Rodgers bomb to Randal Cobb for a touchdown to win the NFC North!

1/06/2014 10:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT
So the squad scheduling is off to a rough start. promises of being with your partners pretty much came and went.
Just an FYI to the sgts running these things. This is not a tact team. On a tact team you are requested and most of the time you like the sgt you are working for. This is not the case. We are force fed these sgts. I understand chain on command, and i understand they are white shirts we are blue shirts. But 012 has already been rocked enough with the disaster of merging with 013, then in the same year we are told well squad scheduling, then change your day offs, then lose a partner, then the icing on the cake the start times and now the end times as well, then the cherry not everyone is included in this squad scheduling (ie, foot guys, school cars, bicycle fixed it posts, imaginary foot posts to work in commanders office, 3 time keepers, the list goes on and on).
But Micromanaging this is not going to work in your favor squad leaders. Now everyone understands there are rules, lets not get pimpy here. remember squad leaders you need us for activity. Keep screwing with the troops and see where that gets everyone. Anyway 3 more years and i am done thank god. What was once a great job has turned into shit. 012 was great, before all this, wish we could just go back to a shitty station, no air, and green shit in the locker rooms. You young guys this to shall pass. 003, and 024 good luck if it is anything like what 012 is going thru you will need it. Dont be surprised if this doesnt go citywide.

1/07/2014 12:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ade doesn't write the orders idiot MLA does. Ade already filed a grievance and was way ahead of this while it was coming down the pipe.

1/07/2014 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scc your source is somewhat correct. 1 exempt of Greek heritage spoke up about this issue with McCarthy. He went at length as how this was detrimental to the chain of command and operations. McCarthy of course disagreed and subsequently put this exempt on the top of his shit list. TRUE.

1/06/2014 12:11:00 AM

Im confused I didn't think Trahanus was exempt any more?

1/06/2014 07:32:00 AM

She's Hawaiian, not Greek.

1/07/2014 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fools, they keep dumping more and more on sgts., hope they win this grievance also. They expect sgts. to do the crs, ct. Dev. , run the desk. Check lockup, run the street, all while a Lt. sits in the station? With 1 Lt. on the watch its rare they will hit the street. Why should they, theyre in charge. The only thing this order did is lessen the Lt. responsibilities even more.
Maybe Lts. should handle crs and the punishment aspect of the job. Sgts.. will be seeing less

1/07/2014 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

etechs will soon be a thing of the past--- dic's will be trained to process crime scenes....

Wow. All thos etechs out there, still making D2, but not doing etech work. neat!

1/07/2014 01:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Noone downtown gives a rats ass about patrol--"...The backbone of our department. .."


No one cares about patrol. How many times do you have to hear it to believe it?

1/07/2014 01:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every exempt ... is merit, you idiot. Unless I missed the "Exempt Test" a few years ago. And if you meant their rank before they became exempt, then say that, moron.

Easy, take it easy mr. Perfect. Most of us understood what was meant

1/07/2014 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>Anonymous said...
Most of the exempts are merit-- what would anyone expect?

1/06/2014 08:18:00 PM

Every exempt ... is merit, you idiot. Unless I missed the "Exempt Test" a few years ago. And if you meant their rank before they became exempt, then say that, moron.

1/06/2014 10:39:00 PM<<<

Again who are you to call anyone "moron"?

Review the syntax of the question in light of CPD history.

A better wording perhaps would be...

Anonymous said...
Most of the exempts have obtained ALL of their promotons via merit-- what would anyone expect?

1/06/2014 08:18:00 PM

1/07/2014 02:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Brings me to my next point. The Mayor's Detail. Do these guys train? Do they even carry guns? Is there a shooting test? How do you get on the Mayor's Detail? Why do they make Sgt's pay? Is there a written test?

1/06/2014 04:41:00 PM

The Mayor's Detail is a very tough training course. SEALs would have a tough time making it. Better not try out for it. Scars may heal but the emotional pain will last a life time. Don't try out kid my ass still hasn't healed.

1/06/2014 10:07:00 PM
If you even ask that question you can't be a copper? The detail no experience needed, your less than beat cop for training, you just have to buy cheap suits and talk into sleeve, but nice job sgts pay unlimited overtime sgts pension here is top of application:

Name
Race (balance)
Sponsor
Do you shop at Kmart (for suits)
Can you retrieve coffee
Can you fill out overtime slips on daily basis
Can you look intimidating
Can you appear overweight
Can you drink alcohol
Do you know where car wash is located
Can you hold bladder for long hours
Can you say "I work for the mayor let me talk to commander"

Fill it out. Your in!

1/07/2014 04:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I've been in a rotating day off group in a district for 28 years. You had the juice to get into the court section & have the stones to cry about not being off every weekend??

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I agree with your premise, but we've been working straight shifts by bid for a long time. If you are rotating you work tact. If you work tact, you are a volunteer. In any of the districts a person with 28 years can bid to days. If you ARE in a district and can work days but volunteer for tact, you are an idiot. If you came on at 21 yoa you are almost 50. Which would make you an almost 50 year old idiot and as such you should shut the fuck up.

Next!

1/06/2014 10:26:00 PM
--you are the moron who can't read. He said ROTATING DAY OFF GROUP. Pay attention moron....and quit bitching that you can't have weekends off. Give thanks you have a do nothing spot you ass.

1/07/2014 07:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I transferred to the Mounted Unit to avoid handling domestics all day,plus I wasnt heavy enough to make sgt.

1/07/2014 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brings me to my next point. The Mayor's Detail. Do these guys train? Do they even carry guns? Is there a shooting test? How do you get on the Mayor's Detail? Why do they make Sgt's pay? Is there a written test?

1/06/2014 04:41:00 PM

The Mayor's Detail is a very tough training course. SEALs would have a tough time making it. Better not try out for it. Scars may heal but the emotional pain will last a life time. Don't try out kid my ass still hasn't healed.

1/06/2014 10:07:00 PM

Mayor's Detail Training Program.
50 Reps Forward Hip Flexion Bends
50 Reps Relax The Jaw Muscles
50 Reps standing to on you're knees in .04 seconds
50 reps of a jerking motion with strong hand wrist
50 reps of a jerking motion with support hand wrist

More to come...........

1/07/2014 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:26:00pm
Office, try reading, several times and very slow, what the original poster said. He said ROTATING DOG, not rotating watches.
Dumb.

1/07/2014 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The bosses don't stand up for themselves what makes anyone think they would stand up for the blueshirts

1/06/2014 01:06:00 AM

You nailed it right on the head.

1/07/2014 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the patrol division looks like that frog laying in the middle of the road that just got run over by a car--- in 20 plus years of humping a beat car I have never witnessed coppers looking so disenchanted--- putting a sgt with 10 years on the job in charge of a watch with seasoned veterans is not going to get the job done....

1/07/2014 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I've been in a rotating day off group in a district for 28 years. You had the juice to get into the court section & have the stones to cry about not being off every weekend??

...................

I agree with your premise, but we've been working straight shifts by bid for a long time. If you are rotating you work tact. If you work tact, you are a volunteer. In any of the districts a person with 28 years can bid to days. If you ARE in a district and can work days but volunteer for tact, you are an idiot. If you came on at 21 yoa you are almost 50. Which would make you an almost 50 year old idiot and as such you should shut the fuck up.

Next!

1/06/2014 10:26:00 PM


There is no end to the morons who will call out a working copper on this job. Inside mother fuckers dare to call a working copper an idiot. Then they complain bitterly when they get some comeuppance on the street.

The only inside court people I ever respected were those with a chest full of ribbons who walked with a limp and a face full of scars from getting shot up or injured who were inside from getting hurt while doing real police work. The rest are lower than pimples on a policeman's ass.

1/07/2014 09:33:00 AM  
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1/06/2014 09:15:00 AM

Seems pretty straightforward and helpful. Check your next statement and fill or fill out a new one if that makes you feel better.

1/07/2014 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Basically all the lt.s do now as the WOL is mentor subordinates, analyze crime patterns and make sure the cameras in cars are working......so basically not much but sit around, it's like inspectors, it's a spot but not very relevant. Oh and they approve the A&As now, but SGTs have been doing it for the past year so, all this does is ultimately breakdown the structure and chain of command (I use that term loosely) .....I still don't see the practicality of it.......now if you make the lt.s field lt's only , working the street only maybe you get away with the new order not paying the sgt.s as out of grade DSS pay. See when they got rid of captains they eliminated a rank, no rank, no WC since a captain was the WC no out of grade for lt.s. But since sgt.s are now the DSS and the lt.s are still there its very ambiguous, basically sgt.s are doing the lt.s job they just gave the lt.s a little different descriptions as to their job duties but there is such an overlap that I don't see the city getting away with this new order. Lastly one would hope for common sense to prevail here, have 2 lt.s per watch and if a sgt fill in as DSS pay him, or have 1 lt per watch and pay the sgt. Out of grade when he fills in. All this because the egomaniacal mayor wants to stick it to the sgt.s so we suffer with the break down of what once was a good department......but alas those days are long gone and soon forgotten.......

1/07/2014 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I've been in a rotating day off group in a district for 28 years. You had the juice to get into the court section & have the stones to cry about not being off every weekend??

...................

I agree with your premise, but we've been working straight shifts by bid for a long time. If you are rotating you work tact. If you work tact, you are a volunteer. In any of the districts a person with 28 years can bid to days. If you ARE in a district and can work days but volunteer for tact, you are an idiot. If you came on at 21 yoa you are almost 50. Which would make you an almost 50 year old idiot and as such you should shut the fuck up.

Next!

1/06/2014 10:26:00 PM

Rotating day off group not rotating watch! Reading comprehension. Who's the idiot? Next!

1/07/2014 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cops need to look no further then ex CFD fire commissioner Ray Hoff for a lesson in what happens to bosses who support the troops.

1/07/2014 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fools, they keep dumping more and more on sgts., hope they win this grievance also.


It's as though the dept. got a "study" supporting the theory that everyone below lt. is fungible. That would explain the secret "study groups" and merit promotions to that rank.

1/07/2014 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watched the Nervous LT from 1 watch 011 stand in the hallway and yuk it up all night.
He has nothing to do! Thank God actually -cause he is clueless! Will Nervous Neil actually go out on the street???ever???? Uh uh uh someone better talk him through it.

1/07/2014 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with your premise, but we've been working straight shifts by bid for a long time. If you are rotating you work tact. If you work tact, you are a volunteer. In any of the districts a person with 28 years can bid to days. If you ARE in a district and can work days but volunteer for tact, you are an idiot. If you came on at 21 yoa you are almost 50. Which would make you an almost 50 year old idiot and as such you should shut the fuck up.

Next!

Okay...He said rotating DAY OFF GROUP...So, Mr know it all moron, what now? YOU are the one who should shut the fuck- Rookie...And I'm a 50 something with 28 yrs on...You want to tell me to shut the fuck up? Lets meet up sometime. Just tired of the punk, big mouth, moronic a-holes with NO time on the job spouting off before they know what they are talking about. Especially when they are clout connected to get special jobs and never had to do it themselves.

1/07/2014 01:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Scc your source is somewhat correct. 1 exempt of Greek heritage spoke up about this issue with McCarthy. He went at length as how this was detrimental to the chain of command and operations. McCarthy of course disagreed and subsequently put this exempt on the top of his shit list. TRUE.

1/06/2014 12:11:00 AM

Im confused I didn't think Trahanus was exempt any more?

1/06/2014 07:32:00 AM

She's Hawaiian, not Greek.

1/07/2014 12:51:00 AM

She's black. You bought the Hawaiian b.s.?

1/07/2014 01:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city should look how the military promotes. "Time in grade" that sort of thing.

1/07/2014 03:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You bought the Hawaiian b.s.?

1/07/2014 01:54:00 PM

Just like millions of voters did too

1/07/2014 03:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Scc your source is somewhat correct. 1 exempt of Greek heritage spoke up about this issue with McCarthy. He went at length as how this was detrimental to the chain of command and operations. McCarthy of course disagreed and subsequently put this exempt on the top of his shit list. TRUE.

1/06/2014 12:11:00 AM

Im confused I didn't think Trahanus was exempt any more?

1/06/2014 07:32:00 AM

She's Hawaiian, not Greek.

1/07/2014 12:51:00 AM

She's black. You bought the Hawaiian b.s.?

1/07/2014 01:54:00 PM

Anyone one ever hear of >SATIRE" pretty sure everyone knows what she is, move on.

1/07/2014 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Watched the Nervous LT from 1 watch 011 stand in the hallway and yuk it up all night.
He has nothing to do! Thank God actually -cause he is clueless! Will Nervous Neil actually go out on the street???ever???? Uh uh uh someone better talk him through it.


1/07/2014 12:45:00 PM

Sounds like someone got busted out for doing something stupid (yeah, you ). He's been a street cop up the ranks and both knowledgable and good to the troops. You are a douche. No need to defend yourself, people already know you...

1/07/2014 05:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thank goodness 19th district doesn't have to follow rules. Especially with MR gone, our Lts can continue to sit inside and do even less than before!

1/07/2014 05:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so....what exactly do lt's do now?....any more or less than before?

1/07/2014 06:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

-you are the moron who can't read. He said ROTATING DAY OFF GROUP. Pay attention moron....and quit bitching that you can't have weekends off. Give thanks you have a do nothing spot you ass.

+++++++++++++++

I apologize...you are right, I did not read it correctly. I have plenty of respect for the working blue shirt....I did it for 26 years myself....

1/07/2014 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just remember so many officers telling me Rham likes the police. . 1/4th of us vote. You all want someone else to do something. Vote!!!!! Hey unions, let's find a candidate to put up against this guy or we are looking at another life-time mayor..

1/07/2014 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey who's in charge here?
Sgt says," everyone and no one".......
Uhmmmm, we'll ok, carry on........

This sums up the new DSS Order......and watch operations city wide......

1/08/2014 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I've been in a rotating day off group in a district for 28 years. You had the juice to get into the court section & have the stones to cry about not being off every weekend??

...................

I agree with your premise, but we've been working straight shifts by bid for a long time. If you are rotating you work tact. If you work tact, you are a volunteer. In any of the districts a person with 28 years can bid to days. If you ARE in a district and can work days but volunteer for tact, you are an idiot. If you came on at 21 yoa you are almost 50. Which would make you an almost 50 year old idiot and as such you should shut the fuck up.

Next!

1/06/2014 10:26:00 PM

Obviously, reading comprehension isn't your strong point.
NOW who's the "idiot" who should "shut the fuck up"?

1/08/2014 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

011 1st watch Lt good to the troops? Really? I work 1st watch 011. I agree! The guys is nervous , clueless and def not knowledgeable!!!! Good to the troops? Haha . Funny one .

1/08/2014 03:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kirby going to Ireland,YES IRELAND,to be the Garda,National police force's inspector general. How desperate for a job do you have to be.Old red burned all her bridges here so I guess she figured get out of town. See ya no loss.

1/08/2014 10:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been in a rotating day off group in a district for 28 years. You had the juice to get into the court section & have the stones to cry about not being off every weekend??

...................

I agree with your premise, but we've been working straight shifts by bid for a long time. If you are rotating you work tact. If you work tact, you are a volunteer. In any of the districts a person with 28 years can bid to days. If you ARE in a district and can work days but volunteer for tact, you are an idiot. If you came on at 21 yoa you are almost 50. Which would make you an almost 50 year old idiot and as such you should shut the fuck up.

Next!

1/06/2014 10:26:00 PM

Obviously, reading comprehension isn't your strong point.
NOW who's the "idiot" who should "shut the fuck up"?

______________________

Lets settle this on Saturday. That is right meet me at the test site. We will see who the learning disabled person is.

Signed,

The Doer

1/08/2014 11:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said,
I've been in a rotating day off group in a district for 28 years. You had the juice to get into the court section & have the stones to cry about not being off every weekend??

...................

I agree with your premise, but we've been working straight shifts by bid for a long time. If you are rotating you work tact. If you work tact, you are a volunteer. In any of the districts a person with 28 years can bid to days. If you ARE in a district and can work days but volunteer for tact, you are an idiot. If you came on at 21 yoa you are almost 50. Which would make you an almost 50 year old idiot and as such you should shut the fuck up.

Next!

1/06/2014 10:26:00 PM

Obviously, reading comprehension isn't your strong point.
NOW who's the "idiot" who should "shut the fuck up"?

______________________

Lets settle this on Saturday. That is right meet me at the test site. We will see who the learning disabled person is.

Signed,

The Doer

1/08/2014 11:54:00 PM

Sorry "Doer" but I'm the original poster & I made Sgt off the 1993 Sgt's test, therefore I won't be attending.
Hopefully your reading comprehension improves dramatically by Saturday.
Good luck with that!!

1/09/2014 10:24:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

Oh boy!!!

Big strong men are going to fight outside the test site?

I can't wait. I hope they get all sweaty.

I'll bring popcorn.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

2/09/2014 03:57:00 PM  

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