::GASP!!:: Cops Earn Overtime?!?!?
- Eight Chicago Police officers were among City Hall’s top 20 overtime earners in 2013 — supplementing their annual salaries by more than $78,990 — renewing debate about police hiring and officer burnout.
Police Supt. Garry McCarthy said he expected to spend $93 million on overtime in 2013 after flooding 20 of Chicago’s most violent crime zones with officers working overtime.
The actual total was $103 million, nearly half the $197 million Mayor Rahm Emanuel spent on overtime for the entire city workforce.
- McCarthy has argued repeatedly that it is “cheaper to pay a police officer overtime than it is to hire a fully-loaded-with-health benefits-and-pay officer.”
But after learning Thursday about the amount of overtime earned by individual officers, Ald. Ricardo Munoz (22nd) said, “The policy needs to change. Any management consultant can tell you that, to depend on overtime of this magnitude is unhealthy. You’ve got the issue of burnout, stress and long hours. We need to make sure our Police Department is well-staffed and well-rested.”
Pat Camden, a spokesman for the Fraternal Order of Police, reiterated his contention that McCarthy’s Violence Reduction Initiative is a “Band-Aid approach to crime-fighting.” That’s even though the hefty overtime paychecks are not confined to officers working that program.
If this is what Rahm wants, and he's willing to have it paid for, there's really not much to complain about. $80,000 in overtime though - that doesn't leave you a lot of time to even enjoy the extra money and if you don't have your health....
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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I dont remember any Politician ever giving a fuck if we were ever "well rested".
So what are the odds this guy does?
Perhaps he has a consulting agency in need of a contract eh?
“The policy needs to change. Any management consultant can tell you that, to depend on overtime of this magnitude is unhealthy. You’ve got the issue of burnout, stress and long hours. We need to make sure our Police Department is well-staffed and well-rested.”
80K in overtime? As they say in the "D" unit " No crime will be solved until there is overtime!"
It's all political. I guarantee that the gal/guy working a 20 hour work week in another city department has a relative that is a big wig with the city and gets the vote out for the Democratic party.
Remember they didn't accuse the officers of not working, they just didn't like that they made that much money.
Thou shall not covet.
Questions from the usual suspects: Eight Chicago Police officers were among City Hall’s top 20 overtime earners in 2013 — supplementing their annual salaries by more than $78,990 — renewing debate about police hiring and officer burnout.
Might any of these 8 be assigned to Gang Intelligence/Narcotics? Big scandal about to break with some of those clowns assigned to a certain team. The Feds don't like it when you pad hours on their dime.
Come SCC you don't really think these top earners never burned CU, BFD, or P-days??? I am sure they are all well rested and healthy laughing all the way to the bank. I know I am and I only made 28k in OT from VRI. I will keep milking this cash cow until she's dry!!!
Give it your best shot haters... Tell me why I shouldn't work VRI!!! Bwhahahaha
FOP questions?
Do we have labor attorneys on retainer? Who negotiates our contract/livelyhoods? Is anyone on the what ever teams ever been part of prior negotations? Are you trained in labor negotiations? Why all the Trustees and VPs? Does the elected FOP retire with the FOP pay or their service rank? Please someone assure me that we have Labor attorneys in the room from day 1 of negotiations.. The former Chief of staff of the President of the United States of America is hiring people to destroy us, ask questions before we rehire another Mike Shields or anyone ever involved in FOP contract negotiations, 14 years on the job and I wish I have asked these questions and more sooner, We hold our own futures in our votes, Many don't like any off our options, is the state FOP any better or are they as incompetent as we have had the last decade or 2, If The State FOP is better lets Vote them in and restore some confidence
Court O.T. = ride that mutha till the balls fall off...
VRI O.T. = too many one-way whores willing to s*ck Rahm dry -- sorta like the FOP brain trust...
When you go in to see W/C to attempt to get time due, some blame is on these guys working OT instead of holding out and forcing city to hire new cops. It's a band aid approach to use OT cops for "violence" zone Could you imagine if arrests and activity were actually required while sitting at their posts, this gig wouldn't be so attractive. Seriously how long is the city going to continue this overtime, 6 months, a year, 10 years? This city is broke and i suppose if these officers work the overtime, making more money for their families, more power to them. Unless they go too fast thru the mayors billion speed cameras on the way to work. Cut that days pay in half.
And Thats Why We Have THe Highest Divorce And Suicidal Rate Plus Alot Of Them Dont See Pass 55.....
I work with 5 officer that did no overtime!
So that should even out.
They also made no arrest or write any parkers or movers...
McCarthy, Rahm, Uncle Sam and your Ex-wife say Thank You!
flooding 20 of Chicago’s most violent crime zones with officers working overtime
Doesn't this go against the CAPS/Community Policing Model?
Officers learning 'their beat' and knowing who's who on that beat. If you only get VR one or two times a month and end up somewhere different each time how does that help the community?
Even though the cost may be a bit more by hiring additional officers the reward to the community will be much greater!
"If this is what Rahm wants, and he's willing to have it paid for, there's really not much to complain about. $80,000 in overtime though - that doesn't leave you a lot of time to even enjoy the extra money and if you don't have your health...."
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Anyone smart and hardworking enough to earn $80,000 in OT likely has a plan. Max out in deferred, payoff all debt, house etc, prepare to get out of here at the first available opportunity.
Best of luck office, retire with tons of money in the bank and a deferred account bursting with $$$.
Greed is a powerful thing.
Ahhh yes...
people turning an angry, hateful and jealous eye...
"LOOK! LOOK-LOOK! See what those greedy, underworked and overpaid, early retiring, sweet pension having Cops are getting while you're being forced to eat your 401K's! Why should the Cops get anything?"
The Great American Jobs & Pension Bitch-Slap & Backwards Pimp-Walk To Parity Via Poverty...
One of those officers works inside and some how had time to coach the sports his kids are involved in. Has never worked cha or VRI.
OT- On duty A/N detective died while on duty in the 014th District Thursday of a possible heart attack. 52 YOA with small kids in grade school. Condolences to the family.
Munoz is most likely pissed that a copper is making legit money.
I'm sure he and the other alderchumps want things changed, where they are the ones handing out the OT so coppers are then beholden to them.
.....and of course the dog ass media just had to print the names of some of the people earning the money. What parasites.
Folks I don't begrudge any officer who wants overtime their right to make it but this VRI thing is going to kill us pensionwise. Every single body sitting in a box is making an easy time and a half true but not one dime of that is going into our pension. If we use 103 million in it and conservatively we say half of that went to VRI that 51.5 million, 9% of that is 4.59 million that did not get put into our pension this year alone (again rough numbers I'm doing this in my head). If they hired the kids to work the street their salary would be at regular pay but it would have gone into the pension ...
Nuts
all the VRI ho's that don't see your family, one day you will wake up, you won't have any special memories and it will be too late,,just for a few extra bucks..time is more important than money
"Cops don't do their job." Cops do too much of their job and receive huge OT. ".
It's got to a point that the only thing these reporter can write about are the police. Now OT is the problem with police and you have to name names? They aren't doing anything wrong here, seriously why name names.
How about you do a real investigation an uncover someone stealing money. Maybe a contractor, politician or private sector employee. No that's too much work. Just request another FOIA and write up the police. Pathetic journoulism.
So McCarthy admits he is relying on O.T. To run dept. and you morons don't think you can use this as leverage by not working any special VRI etc.... In the hottest month of the year. You are to greedy, or dumb to negotiate anything. I agree our union is weak and or corrupt. Why do you need them to tell you what to do. You deserve everything you get, when you act as one of Rahms puppets at least Mcarthy gets something out of it.
If this alderman wants us well rested, then shut down the Police Dept. from 2200 hrs. till 0800 hrs. and we will all get a good nights sleep just as he does.
Aldercreatures make how much for part time work?
I always make my arrests less than 30mn before check off traffic too On weekends its the DUI I rack it up and you should too Check the $$$$$ box My pay back for no CU the Bosses Luv hate it HAha
More power to them. Special and overtime are available to pretty much everyone with some seniority. Don't blame the player, blame the game. If you want it, its there, if you don't want it don't put in for it.
Is it true that in working VRI you are instructed to drive in a two square block area and not make street stops, responding only to observed or reported crime, visibility being the primary goal?
An old retired PO is curious.
I may be a little confused by this quote
McCarthy has argued repeatedly that it is “cheaper to pay a police officer overtime than it is to hire a fully-loaded-with-health benefits-and-pay officer.”
I was under the understanding that with obamacare, health benefits were very, very cheap. Wouldn't the administration pushing for this legislation make hiring Officers cost effective or is that just money they keep for themselves?
no doubt it is the Detectives. I have yet to meet a detective that doesnt brag about their overtime checks.
Hello, I am a retired CPD officer who now resides in Florida. I have been a financial advisor in my off time. I just want you officers to be warned, if ur planning on retiring in next 10 years or later you better do some serious planning now. ALL the signs are there and the politicians are responding typical text book style... You will NOT have a pension. I know you all are banking on that and that's who I'm worried about. Put money away in your Deffered Comp or 401k but the problem is our markets aren't getting the return like in the past. Get a new job or out of this hell hole state before it crumbles.
Rest in Peace Detective Dennis McLaughlin - Area North.
He passed away yesterday in the 014th District station.
God Bless you and your family pal.
the city just took out almost 2 billion in general obligation bonds--- 100 million in overtime is nothing--- 150 million is ear marked for settling burge related lawsuits--- rahmpoleon is just like obummer, keep spending more than we have and let future generations solve the mess by kicking the can down the road....
You gotta find a balance in life and although 80k in overtime is great to pay bills, you are shaving time away. There are some coppers in my district that work every single day. They work their days and go to court on a regualr basis, work their part time on their day off, do CHA/ CTA supplemental and then they work VRI aka **BLOOD MONEY**. At some point you have to take a look at yourself in the mirror and say what am I doing. What is all that money gonna do you when you have no life, no family or no girl friend. But before you know it, you will be forced out in retirement with all the money and comp time in the world and no one to share it with. But uncle Sam will thank you when they keep all you're unclaimed bank accounts.
Anonymous said...
"If this is what Rahm wants, and he's willing to have it paid for, there's really not much to complain about. $80,000 in overtime though - that doesn't leave you a lot of time to even enjoy the extra money and if you don't have your health...."
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Anyone smart and hardworking enough to earn $80,000 in OT likely has a plan. Max out in deferred, payoff all debt, house etc, prepare to get out of here at the first available opportunity.
Best of luck office, retire with tons of money in the bank and a deferred account bursting with $$$.
2/07/2014 05:25:00 AM
Yeah. And retire having to worry about your pension because there aren't enough coppers being hired to cover it.
You've got your head so far up your ass in ain't even funny. Keep sucking Tiny Ballerina's cock. Keep playing into his hands.
Ignorance is bliss.
Terrible reporting as usual. Their targeting VRI in this article when it was a few detectives and probably crime lab Sgt. OEMC has its own budget and dispatchers are not police anymore. So is the solution to hire more detectives and dispatchers?
here's the link
https://data.cityofchicago.org/Administration-Finance/Employee-Overtime-and-Supplemental-Earnings-2013/s9zb-nuc6
As someone that used to ride the OT gravy train big time I can tell you it takes a toll on you. My health deteriorated, heart disease, high blood pressure. Working midnight and court all day then rush home to squeeze in 4 hours of sleep if I was lucky. You have no social life and you're afraid to go on furlough because you'll lose your court dates.
I don't miss it.
#2 also has a take home car to go back and forth to Homan each day. On top of all that legit OT (haha) all that money saved on gas and wear and tear on your own personal car.
they will always find something to complain about with us. we are working so much overtime because the department is heavily understaffed. our bosses or even little rahm absolutely do not care about our well-being or health. simply put, their "doing more with less" phrase wouldn't be emphasized anymore if they did care. instead they keep pushing us and in turn we will make overtime. for those who do make a lot of overtime please take the necessary precautions like sufficient sleep to allow your body the rest it requires. everyone should be eating better to give your body the maximum vitamins and minerals it also requires to push your body to the max. lastly, if you don't work out then at least stretch your body out to keep your muscles loose and warmed up. please don't kill yourselves for these hack bosses and politicians because that is what they'd want. essentially if you don't take the previous precautions that is what you are doing to yourself. continue to be safe out there everyone.
$85,000.00 Salary plus $75,000.00 in OT and you still would be making less than Bill Dougherty at FOP as 1st Vice President. Can any one tell me any one of them at are better than you or me?
Let's show all of the people at FOP who have been there more than 9 years the door!
100 to 1 that sgt that almost doubled his pay isn't working in the district patrol .
This massive amount of OT is like the rat and cocaine test.
When given the opportunity to do minor tasks for cocaine rats would forgo sleep etc. to continue tapping into the cocaine.Eventually this took its health tolls etc. on the rats.
This is what some coppers are doing with this ridiculous amount of OT. There are coppers out there going 2-3 months straight without a day off. All for the almighty dollar.
Yes the money is great but if you don't see your family and you don't have your health what have you really accomplished?
Fuck this city and this dept. make them hire more desperately needed manpower.
reminds me of years ago, when we had this group, that was notorious for grabbing that one bagger at the end of the watch
I am in patrol and I am probably one of those 8 top earners. Best part-time gig you can get is court and VRI and I still have plenty of free time. Besides, the majority of people on my watch even things out by never arresting anyone, never doing anything but sleeping and certainly don't get any overtime.
unemployment in Chicago all time high. Companies don't need new employee.Chicago Police and Fire desperately need new employees. Hiring here doesn't help rahm. bottom line giving his friends million dollar contracts does go figure.
News flash buddy, the city ain't broke. I got news for you. If they can keep pumping money into bike lanes and parks, they're not broke.
At least we are earning it, unlike the thieves in politics who are stealing it. Who cares if we make over $100,000 a year? Are we not supposed to be in that category? The category of the 'well off?' They don't want us making too much money.
The more we make, the more the city makes. 33% of your salary goes to taxes. 12,000 people paying 33% is a lot of money for the city, not to mention property taxes, sales tax, etc. So fuck those people who say they pay our salary. We pay our own salary.
If they are gonna treat us like celebrities and plaster stories about us and invade peoples privacy then we should be paid like celebrities. If not then go do stories on what color Miley Cyrus' underwear is today and leave us the fuck alone.
more corruption, organized corruption, and theft. pay to Play, the Chicago Way.
Anonymous said...
flooding 20 of Chicago’s most violent crime zones with officers working overtime
Doesn't this go against the CAPS/Community Policing Model?
Officers learning 'their beat' and knowing who's who on that beat. If you only get VR one or two times a month and end up somewhere different each time how does that help the community?
Even though the cost may be a bit more by hiring additional officers the reward to the community will be much greater!
2/07/2014 05:01:00 AM
Of Course. All Democrat Double-Talk. Democrats, Great at coming up with non-sensical solutions to non-existent problems.
ald munoz a big f you i work as much overtime that i can i still make arrests on my regular shift who are you say you political hack , lets see you make 110g a year a year on a part time job, only have a half day on fridays with weekends and holidays off stay away from my ot you creep
Milk this shithole city, the people that run it, and the liberal,socialist citizens that vote for them dry!!!!!
That's exactly why when you have extra it should be kept a secret,hence scrutiny, criticism,jealousy, it a shame our pay is public record,maybe the media can make us aware of Rhams salary and overtime and any other unethical ways of making money!
Daddy why can't I be a lieutenant? Just maybe the troops will finally listen to me? I don't think that all my screaming & swearing during every roll call is working? Daddy you always made your little Johnny smile. Please work your magic and make little Johnny happy. My tummy hurts!
Why r the officers named in the article
And what about the Streets and San snow plow operators overtime?
8 thousand a month in overtime for a sgt? He must be the best sgt ever.
Today was a twofer on the news they kept running with this OT 103 million waste of money citing how many officers are making what, all the while calling for kits hiring of POs. Hmm that sounds familiar....
The next was that we, as a whole are still out there targeting and shooting a larger portion of blacks than any other race. CPD is sooooo racist. When is this nonsense going to stop. We are supposed to be living in a racially transcendent society where color doesn't matter any longer.
For the news trolls....if you point a weapon at an officer, regardless of the color of your skin, the content of our character dictates that you be shot until the threat upon our lives and YOURS is gone. Maybe you should be asking why more blacks are being killed instead of making crap up about the officers that protect your butt.
OT: For all those who were hysterical about their deferred comp being gutted on Monday, the market ended up 85 points for the week. A gain of 350 points the last 2 days. It's understandable, my grandmother had the same concerns. This continues the 5 year trend where the stock market is up 91%. Sleep well this weekend.
PS: The market will go down again at some point.
Pay the man!
Hey, we ain't working for free!
I don't know anyone in any industry or profession that would work for free!
Why is this an issue, now!
Is it because, it is contract time and this jagoff Mayor Rahm and his spin doctors, wants to make the Police look bad as usual!
Hey Rahm and Mcstupid, your a millionaires, why don't you guys work for free?
Yea! Right CRICKETS out of both of them!
Mark Donahue made 210k in 2010. At the 25 year rate how many days off would I have to work VRI to make that money?
Anonymous said...
all the VRI ho's that don't see your family, one day you will wake up, you won't have any special memories and it will be too late,,just for a few extra bucks..time is more important than money
2/07/2014 07:44:00 AM
Dont see your family because you work VRI one day a week. What about all the po's that work second jobs and are gone more at those jobs and earn less money. You either work it or quit complaining about those that do.
Anonymous said...
FOP questions?
Do we have labor attorneys on retainer? Who negotiates our contract/livelyhoods? Is anyone on the what ever teams ever been part of prior negotations? Are you trained in labor negotiations? Why all the Trustees and VPs? Does the elected FOP retire with the FOP pay or their service rank? Please someone assure me that we have Labor attorneys in the room from day 1 of negotiations.. The former Chief of staff of the President of the United States of America is hiring people to destroy us, ask questions before we rehire another Mike Shields or anyone ever involved in FOP contract negotiations, 14 years on the job and I wish I have asked these questions and more sooner, We hold our own futures in our votes, Many don't like any off our options, is the state FOP any better or are they as incompetent as we have had the last decade or 2, If The State FOP is better lets Vote them in and restore some confidence
2/07/2014 01:17:00 AM
Yes fop retires at rate they get paid from fop! Example president gets paid $210,000 the other 3 under him make $160,000 per year pension is not based on their civil service rank of d-1. (Patrolman) they get 75% of fop pay thus draining the pension more and more ask them when they talk bs promises at roll call!
Anonymous said...
they will always find something to complain about with us. we are working so much overtime because the department is heavily understaffed. our bosses or even little rahm absolutely do not care about our well-being or health. simply put, their "doing more with less" phrase wouldn't be emphasized anymore if they did care. instead they keep pushing us and in turn we will make overtime. for those who do make a lot of overtime please take the necessary precautions like sufficient sleep to allow your body the rest it requires. everyone should be eating better to give your body the maximum vitamins and minerals it also requires to push your body to the max. lastly, if you don't work out then at least stretch your body out to keep your muscles loose and warmed up. please don't kill yourselves for these hack bosses and politicians because that is what they'd want. essentially if you don't take the previous precautions that is what you are doing to yourself. continue to be safe out there everyone.
Quit crying like a little baby. This isn't forced OT. Everyone gets their days off if they want them. Some guys work no OT and sit in a bar all day or all night, don't take care of themselves and don't see the family. Giyd sre working OT because they want to, not because they are forced to.
Just you wait until local media starts sniffing around to try and find out "just what exactly are the underworked and overpaid, early retirin', sweet pension having Cops are spending their undeserved, taxpayer bounty on?"
Don't you worry about a thing...
The guardians of the public's "right to know" are diving every dumpster and pawing through every panty drawer to get to the bottom of the how and why you coppers are making so much money during the Great American Wealth Re-Distribution of the 2010's
Heh... "Why are you public servants getting what we don't have? It makes us angry... Stop it! do your jobs for straight pay like everybody else and stop complaining about being tired, stressed out and dying young. You Coppers make us sick because you think so much of yourselves!"
"The Police are the problem in Chicago... Once we fix THEM, everything else will fall in place."
Only The Good Lord knows what that "fix" may entail or how bloody it's going to end up being...
Anonymous said...
One of those officers works inside and some how had time to coach the sports his kids are involved in. Has never worked cha or VRI.
2/07/2014 06:12:00 AM
And this surprises you?
Three, count 'em, three, area north detectives have had heart attacks this month.
Det. DM passed away on-duty in 014 yesterday. Rest in Peace Den.
Anonymous CPD CLASS 90-1 said...
Rest in Peace Detective Dennis McLaughlin - Area North.
He passed away yesterday in the 014th District station.
God Bless you and your family pal.
2/07/2014 09:19:00 AM
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Rest in Peace Dennis
We love you !
Your brothers from 025.
Just watched Stacy Baca on abc, she talked about all the burglaries in the 23rd district but goes on to say most other crimes are trending down. What a lame reporter, Stacy go ask your weather guy if it's been cold or snowy. That might help you see through your own B.S.
P.S.
Screw you McAss and Twinkletoes
Remember you can't take it with you!!!
So how much do these overtimes guys lose , after the letter wasn't sent in on time.
Hello, I am a retired CPD officer who now resides in Florida. I have been a financial advisor in my off time. I just want you officers to be warned, if ur planning on retiring in next 10 years or later you better do some serious planning now. ALL the signs are there and the politicians are responding typical text book style... You will NOT have a pension. I know you all are banking on that and that's who I'm worried about. Put money away in your Deffered Comp or 401k but the problem is our markets aren't getting the return like in the past. Get a new job or out of this hell hole state before it crumbles.
2/07/2014 09:14:00 AM
Yep. I'm planning on cutting it in 3 w/ 20 and start a new career in a state that will be financially solvent. Have the states narrowed down but any suggestions financially for free? In your opinion, will my pension be there when I turn 50(42 now)? Hoping but not relying. Congrats on getting the hell out of here.
Anonymous said...
Is it true that in working VRI you are instructed to drive in a two square block area and not make street stops, responding only to observed or reported crime, visibility being the primary goal?
An old retired PO is curious.
2/07/2014 08:38:00 AM
Yes that's true but while inside that box, the motor from the DVD player is rolling all night so it keeps us warm..
Dire Straits Old Timer...
Money for Nothin,
Come SCC you don't really think these top earners never burned CU, BFD, or P-days??? I am sure they are all well rested and healthy laughing all the way to the bank. I know I am and I only made 28k in OT from VRI. I will keep milking this cash cow until she's dry!!!
Give it your best shot haters... Tell me why I shouldn't work VRI!!! Bwhahahaha
2/07/2014 01:13:00 AM
Unions only work ( hence the name) if we stick together. VRI enables the city to not hire more officers, who would be contributing to the pension and is clearly a union busting tactic. As your getting the shit kicked out of you, being choked out, laying in the street bleeding because help is too far away, maybe the VRI money will help keep you safe. Scab
The shithole paper and asshole journalists printed the names of the officers, like they're doing something wrong....pathetic.
They resent what we are paid, our pension, job security, benefits. We aren't supposed to win. We didn't study liberal arts at a private college. We are supposed to settle for an apple off the grocery cart. We are supposed to stay in our lane. People see this and feel we. Should be and remain less.
I suggest you treat all financial institutions as a risky hedge, and the institutions potentially insolvent.
See Cyprus.
IOW they'll take it if they need it.
Off the the topic but what's the deal with this guy Roytman that just transfered to 011. People say he was the most hated boss 006 has ever had. After years of dealing with Penny I can't imagine he's going to cause much of a stir here after all isn't he a Northsider?
Keep working VRI and going to burglar alarms alone and they'll never hire anyone..greedy bastards we are
"OT: For all those who were hysterical about their deferred comp being gutted on Monday, the market ended up 85 points for the week. A gain of 350 points the last 2 days. It's understandable, my grandmother had the same concerns. This continues the 5 year trend where the stock market is up 91%. Sleep well this weekend.
PS: The market will go down again at some point."
Just beware. If you have less than 5 years left then I would go heavy into fixed cash. The market is due for a BIG correction. Protect your investment. Investors are moving their money into safe havens. I am not trying to scare anybody just don't want to see people lose $$ before they retire.
Check out this story about rookie foot patrols in NYC and what Bratton is changing and why. Are you reading this McStreetlight?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/nyregion/bratton-tells-chiefs-hell-stop-sending-rookies-to-high-crime-areas.html?hpw&rref=nyregion&_r=0
Just a little free advice ... don't sock all of your extra money into deferred comp. Uncle Sam will love you come retirement time. Taxes WILL go up. Diversify if you want another option email chicagosfinestfinancial@gmail.com
Anonymous said...
Daddy why can't I be a lieutenant? Just maybe the troops will finally listen to me? I don't think that all my screaming & swearing during every roll call is working? Daddy you always made your little Johnny smile. Please work your magic and make little Johnny happy. My tummy hurts!
2/07/2014 12:55:00 PM
I just spit my beer out reading that!! I know exactly who you're talking about... If only Uncle Terry could make him merit Lt. like he did Sgt!! Good luck to P.O's over there in Mass Transit!!
So the unit C.O. would come into D unit roll call and tell the Dix to call in an hour before the tour ended so the W.C. for the next watch could send a relief to continue with the case. The new W.C. didn't want his guys tide up on someone else's B.S. So no relief was sent. O.T. was required. It didn't matter if your day off, comp time or furlough was beginning. In for a penny, in for a pound.
All Elected FOP personnel should only make their civil service pay. I thought running for office was done to improve conditions for the rank and file.
I don't give a rats ass how many hours you put in. Don't run for office if you don't like it b
Rest in Peace Detective Dennis McLaughlin - Area North.
He passed away yesterday in the 014th District station.
God Bless you and your family pal.
2/07/2014 09:19:00 AM
Dennis was one of the nicest guys you could ever meet. He was a great friend, husband, and father and will be missed by all who knew him. Den I know your up there having a cocktail right now with Jimmy , and Billy Whitney and all the others looking down on us. Stay away from the brown booze pal! Gonna miss ya
Just a little free advice ... don't sock all of your extra money into deferred comp. Uncle Sam will love you come retirement time. Taxes WILL go up. Diversify if you want another option email chicagosfinestfinancial@gmail.com
2/07/2014 08:44:00 PM
@Chicagosfinestfinancial????? if you give this mush your money it will be put to sleep forever. He's a bad cop and an even worse money manager.. A personality could do wonders for this guy... But that's still doubtful
Mark Donahue made 210k in 2010. At the 25 year rate how many days off would I have to work VRI to make that money?
2/07/2014 04:23:00 PM
He is smarter than you. He deserves to make more than you. Shut up and keep pimpin yourself to VRI.
Why all the beefing about the top eight and VRI? Most of them are detectives and I've worked with four of them. They are muthafuckin hustlers that are in court or riding a tour extension almost every day. VRI ain't shit, those players get paid. VRI is only opened up to dicks about ten days a year. Between January and May I work about 30 hours OT a week. I take a June and August furlough. The summer is my family time. I dial it back up again from Labor Day to Thanksgiving. I don't do shit between Thanksgiving and New Year's.I even take a baby furlough over Christmas. I still knock down 50K a year in OT, and iI don't even try that hard. VRI? Yeah...okay.
Quit crying like a little baby. This isn't forced OT. Everyone gets their days off if they want them. Some guys work no OT and sit in a bar all day or all night, don't take care of themselves and don't see the family. Giyd sre working OT because they want to, not because they are forced to.
Some guys go to night school and learn how to spell.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just a little free advice ... don't sock all of your extra money into deferred comp. Uncle Sam will love you come retirement time. Taxes WILL go up. Diversify if you want another option email chicagosfinestfinancial@gmail.com
2/07/2014 08:44:00 PM
I love this one, he says don't put your money into deferred comp, you will have to pay taxes at the end, after 30 years of growing all tax deferred. Instead, send it to this guy, Mickey the Mope Investment Services, using a Gmail.com account at that. Damn, that has me all excited, can I send my kid;s tuition money too?
Really now, have the Vaneckos branched out into direct solicitation of cops for investment management?
Your first advice, not to put in deferred comp, is good for shit and self serving. Why don't I just send you $10 to go the fuck away? You must be that guy in the Tribune comments section writing all the time. "I made 80k yesterday at home!" "Just send me all your money and I will tell you how I did it!"
As a show of good faith, how about if you send me $80k and we'll talk about it? My email is Madoff_Investing@hotmail.com
Anonymous Anonymous said...
8 thousand a month in overtime for a sgt? He must be the best sgt ever.
2/07/2014 02:59:00 PM
I work with him and he is the best sgt. Ever
Anonymous said...
All Elected FOP personnel should only make their civil service pay. I thought running for office was done to improve conditions for the rank and file.
I don't give a rats ass how many hours you put in. Don't run for office if you don't like it b
2/07/2014 09:29:00 PM
Agreed these salaries which are pensionable are excessive!
http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pdf_archive/362/362467755/362467755_201012_990O.pdf
The fop new slate guys running are talking about pension being drained by gold stars look here they are doing the same thing,and don't forget the salary is taken from our dues not from the city,maybe that is why they make (steal) so much? If any of them offers to make the pensionable part in writing civil service pension I will vote for them but none of them will, clean slate mope same people who are reliving glory days, yep another Mike Shields start all over!
I don't care how much VRI you work, you won't make as much as the Shitty Wide guys do. These slugs, have been making Captain's pay, for the last twelve years. They need to retire, and go away!
Now retired...
When I started, before most of you were born...
we got hour for hour straight TIME DUE only overtime.
When you went on furlough, when you came back, if you had more than forty hours on the books(POOF!) you lost them.
Back then we had more than 13,000 sworn officers, plus civilian employees. So you could take time off more easily.
Then we got a union and slowly built up our rights, now the present generation is in danger of losing what we fought for all those years.
Why is retired merit Sgt Mike Voight running for FOP trustee? He filed a lawsuit and was given another guys' stripes. He should be ashamed to show his face at the FOP!
Greed is a powerful thing
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
So is Laziness...
Some of us use the money with Goals in mind... Pay off Mortgage, school loans etc.
How in the fuck does a copper make $80k in OT?!?! I have to fight my sergeant if I make a late pinch on a radio job!
"Why all the Trustees and VPs? Does the elected FOP retire with the FOP pay or their service rank?
2/07/2014 01:17:00 AM
Yes. They will have a better pension than career service policeman. Sweet huh?
Just beware. If you have less than 5 years left then I would go heavy into fixed cash. The market is due for a BIG correction. Protect your investment. Investors are moving their money into safe havens. I am not trying to scare anybody just don't want to see people lose $$ before they retire.
2/07/2014 08:38:00 PM
Always sound advice yet so many people on this job don't even look at their accounts. They glance at their quarterly statement and then one day 9 months from retirement, their account gets pounded into the ground. When the market is high like this and you're close to retirement, move all of your money into the fixed option.
To the unpublished "part of the problem:"
We don't, as a general rule, publish screeds like yours wishing death upon anyone. You may have noticed in the Daley thread, there weren't any comments wishing a quick or slow painful death on Shortshanks - that's not because there weren't any. That's because we took out around 50 of them. It lowers the debate and we happen to be believers in the karma train. You'd be hard pressed to find any such comments and the only posts we've ever done wishing death upon anyone are for cop killers and child molesters. We aren't about to let you wish death upon anonymous coppers and make fun of their children at the wake. You're an incredible asshole for even typing that.
As for your other nonsense, we don't work VRI. Never saw the need to and we spend far too much time in the ghetto as it is. As for the "scab" comment, we're starting to get sick of it and are considering a blanket ban on the term similar to the "no death wishes" ban that's been in effect for years. The FOP hasn't taken a stand on it for whatever reason, so we aren't about to begrudge people making OT any way they can.
So you can go back and enjoy eating/playing with your bag of dicks (we have no idea where you'd acquire such a thing, but to each their own). Asshat.
Vri is not even done fairly when people who can not work the streets are constantly getting no days says at all because no activity...well duh how can they get activity when they're the watch secretary or working the desk...etc...etc and good luck on supplement yeah
Ask wtf tour alderman s do for your fuck up neighborhood at 110 thousand plus a yr....oh yeah and don't forget to ask him or her about there side deals
If Bob the Plumber, Tom the Lawyer, or Joe the Accountant worked extra hours to supplement their income nobody would say anything about it. Instead, they would say "Isn't it nice those guys are working hard to make extra money to support their families?" But because the guys in this story are Cops it's suddenly a bad thing and were accused of being greedy. Assholes all.
Anonymous said...
Check out this story about rookie foot patrols in NYC and what Bratton is changing and why. Are you reading this McStreetlight?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/nyregion/bratton-tells-chiefs-hell-stop-sending-rookies-to-high-crime-areas.html?hpw&rref=nyregion&_r=0
2/07/2014 08:41:00 PM
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Does McDrunkin have an original thought or all his ideas stolen from NY?
Why all the Trustees and VPs? Does the elected FOP retire with the FOP pay or their service rank?
2/07/2014 01:17:00 AM
Yes. They will have a better pension than career service policeman. Sweet huh
Another election lie. They retire with service rank. All in the past also.
FOP questions?
Do we have labor attorneys on retainer? Who negotiates our contract/livelyhoods? Is anyone on the what ever teams ever been part of prior negotations? Are you trained in labor negotiations? Why all the Trustees and VPs? Does the elected FOP retire with the FOP pay or their service rank? Please someone assure me that we have Labor attorneys in the room from day 1 of negotiations.. The former Chief of staff of the President of the United States of America is hiring people to destroy us, ask questions before we rehire another Mike Shields or anyone ever involved in FOP contract negotiations, 14 years on the job and I wish I have asked these questions and more sooner, We hold our own futures in our votes, Many don't like any off our options, is the state FOP any better or are they as incompetent as we have had the last decade or 2, If The State FOP is better lets Vote them in and restore some confidence
2/07/2014 01:17:00 AM
Yes fop retires at rate they get paid from fop! Example president gets paid $210,000 the other 3 under him make $160,000 per year pension is not based on their civil service rank of d-1. (Patrolman) they get 75% of fop pay thus draining the pension more and more ask them when they talk bs promises at roll call!
Again another election lie.
No one retires with anything other than their rank in the department. There is always a labor lawyer in the room on day one. His name is Joe Burns. Not sure who I'm voting for yet, but I have caught Dean Angelo in at least two lies already and it definitely won't be him.
Raise property taxes to pay my ot! Glad I moved to pingree grove.
MA
My husband works VRI constantly. Sure there's the money. But he's never home and doesn't even seem to enjoy anything anymore -- eat, sleep, work, repeat.
I seen a few pro and con comments about deferred compensation over the last few months. Deferred Comp like the pensions is protected by law. Guess what? The law regarding pensions is not being followed and the law will most likely change..A la Detroit. I'm retired now...deferred comp is a great Plan..I was maxed out for a lot of years. But I wouldn't invest solely in deferred comp. Just my 2 cents from a guy who sees both the pros and cons of deferred comp.
2/07/2014 01:17:00 AM
Yes fop retires at rate they get paid from fop! Example president gets paid $210,000 the other 3 under him make $160,000 per year pension is not based on their civil service rank of d-1. (Patrolman) they get 75% of fop pay thus draining the pension more and more ask them when they talk bs promises at roll call!
2/07/2014 04:32:00 PM
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I think both Donahue and Dougherty screwed us in an effort to get Shields out of office.
BUT they both will only get their police pensions. Billy will get a patrolman's pension and Mark will get a dic's pension.
But making all of this money they have been able to be max'd in deferred comp.
Please show me the Math. 320 and change clear after 8 hours. That would work out to an extra 200+ days of work for the year. I say impossible without not sleeping.
Yes fop retires at rate they get paid from fop! Example president gets paid $210,000 the other 3 under him make $160,000 per year pension is not based on their civil service rank of d-1. (Patrolman) they get 75% of fop pay thus draining the pension more and more ask them when they talk bs promises at roll call!
2/07/2014 04:32:00 PM
I don't believe that is true. This is the first I've heard that in 30 years. FOP and CFD Local 2 are the two unions whose top officers retire at their civil service rank. Mark D gets D2a, detective pension and so on.
Other unions were subverted by Daley because Daley changed things o the City paid the extra pension so their pay is based on their higher union salary. Thus they would be beholding to Daley for their golden pension.
Before you go spreading this shit, and I understand why you might, call the pension board. Like I said, in 30 years this is first I heard of this and I was unit rep for many years and have been to hundreds of union meetings, conventions, functions etc.
SCC Your comments to the unpublished always make me laugh but always leaves me wondering what some of the garbage you get sent to you that you end up deleting.
The Keesing Bandit probably knows where to find a bag of dicks.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If this alderman wants us well rested, then shut down the Police Dept. from 2200 hrs. till 0800 hrs. and we will all get a good nights sleep just as he does.
2/07/2014 08:18:00 AM
Don't forget all the booze he pours down his gullet which helps with the sleep thing.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Mark Donahue made 210k in 2010. At the 25 year rate how many days off would I have to work VRI to make that money?
2/07/2014 04:23:00 PM
He is smarter than you. He deserves to make more than you. Shut up and keep pimpin yourself to VRI.
2/07/2014 10:23:00 PM
The arrogance of the City Wide Team - They ALL believe they are smarter than you!
RIP Dennis. You were taken from us way too soon. I had the pleasure of working with you in 25.
You were the best of the best and will be
sorely missed. I will be praying for your family.
Retired and Grieving
Why don't they have Security Specialist average overtime listed. It would blow the other ranks out of the water and that is to protect one man and his family.
Quit crying like a little baby. This isn't forced OT. Everyone gets their days off if they want them. Some guys work no OT and sit in a bar all day or all night, don't take care of themselves and don't see the family. Giyd sre working OT because they want to, not because they are forced to.
2/07/2014 04:36:00 PM
hey dumbass, no one is crying like a baby. no one said the overtime is forced you idiot. read a post and then try to comment or reply somewhat intelligently if that's possible from your ignorant seat. if you need help then ask your mommy or daddy to help you type at the keyboard as well. keep your insanely ignorant savage comments to yourself. the post simply stated to take the necessary precautions to better one's self from getting sick or injured.
Anyone who is claiming that any FOP officers get any more pension perks is just wrong, wrong, wrong. Their pensions are based on their CPD pay grades; D1, D2, D2A, or D3. Nothing more. Don't believe me? Call the pension board.
Where do you guys come up with this shit? Even worse, some of you believe it without verifying it. No wonder this department is in such bad shape.
Mark Donahue made 210k in 2010. At the 25 year rate how many days off would I have to work VRI to make that money?
2/07/2014 04:23:00 PM
You can work all you want, your money will not be pensionionable such as his $210, 000 salary.
They resent what we are paid, our pension, job security, benefits. We aren't supposed to win. We didn't study liberal arts at a private college. We are supposed to settle for an apple off the grocery cart. We are supposed to stay in our lane. People see this and feel we. Should be and remain less.
2/07/2014 07:16:00 PM
That's exactly the truth.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am in patrol and I am probably one of those 8 top earners. Best part-time gig you can get is court and VRI and I still have plenty of free time. Besides, the majority of people on my watch even things out by never arresting anyone, never doing anything but sleeping and certainly don't get any overtime.
2/07/2014 11:00:00 AM
i am also in patrol and the best part-time job is court, cta and vri. i see my family plenty and i am the provider. therefore, i work these gigs to better my retirement, pay off my house sooner and for my kids's education. no new cars or lavish living here. the key to these longer work weeks is taking care of your body and it all doesn't revolve around longer sleeping. be safe all.
So you can go back and enjoy eating/playing with your bag of dicks (we have no idea where you'd acquire such a thing, but to each their own). Asshat.
2/08/2014 04:51:00 AM
Thank you, SCC. This is why your blog is outstanding.
someone look into who approved that sergeants overtime and how much time does he approve for patrolman working for him
sounds like a good scam that should be investigated by the city IG
who is the merit commander that allows that much OT
must be nice
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am in patrol and I am probably one of those 8 top earners. Best part-time gig you can get is court and VRI and I still have plenty of free time. Besides, the majority of people on my watch even things out by never arresting anyone, never doing anything but sleeping and certainly don't get any overtime.
2/07/2014 11:00:00 AM
i am also in patrol and the best part-time job is court, cta and vri. i see my family plenty and i am the provider. therefore, i work these gigs to better my retirement, pay off my house sooner and for my kids's education. no new cars or lavish living here. the key to these longer work weeks is taking care of your body and it all doesn't revolve around longer sleeping. be safe all.
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Keep trying to convince yourself of that since both of these comments were posted by the same person. Face it, you have no life outside this job
Anonymous said...
Mark Donahue made 210k in 2010. At the 25 year rate how many days off would I have to work VRI to make that money?
2/07/2014 04:23:00 PM
You can work all you want, your money will not be pensionionable such as his $210, 000 salary.
2/08/2014 11:25:00 AM
True and like the other 4 under him getting pension on $170,000 salary as the new guys complain while they campaign about the gold stars depleting the pension funds. Pot calling kettle black? I will vote for anyone of them who signs a paper stating they will only take a pension that is at tier civil service rank, just like they want for exempts fair! Crickets buller you hear us? Like president Bush said after 9/11 "you will hear us now" after what happened to Mike Shields no more excuses you get elected you become accountable, you don't respond to calls in "our house " fop building you will be asked to resign! You think it will be easy to contain the ire of tens of thousands of coppers if you don't make sure pension is shored up? Taking this job takes a real man/woman with ice in their veins, if your thin skinned, burned coppers in the past, please get off ballot "no more mr nice guy" no more being embarresed like was done publicly with Mike Shields in front of everyone, followed by terrible press.
To Dean Angelo Jr,
Maybe you should learn to be the police and not a politician. Hearing this kid talk makes me wonder why he got on this job.
Sr and Jr are like the Mike and Lisa Madigan of the police dept.
Be aware of who you align yourself with on this election.....a lot of snakes in this pool!!!!
Anonymous said...
My husband works VRI constantly. Sure there's the money. But he's never home and doesn't even seem to enjoy anything anymore -- eat, sleep, work, repeat.
2/08/2014 07:56:00 AM
Askhim to quit working it if you are so concerned
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Mark Donahue made 210k in 2010. At the 25 year rate how many days off would I have to work VRI to make that money?
2/07/2014 04:23:00 PM
You can work all you want, your money will not be pensionionable such as his $210, 000 salary.
2/08/2014 11:25:00 AM
Here's an idea. You want the income HE makes.
Run for office, then. Represent the troops and be a positive force.
"Why r the officers named in the article"
It's public information. Look it up on the city website.
Anyone who is claiming that any FOP officers get any more pension perks is just wrong, wrong, wrong. Their pensions are based on their CPD pay grades; D1, D2, D2A, or D3. Nothing more. Don't believe me? Call the pension board.
Where do you guys come up with this shit? Even worse, some of you believe it without verifying it. No wonder this department is in such bad shape.
2/08/2014 11:10:00 AM
That's cool but they're rank is police officer right? Oh I see, cuz they're in FOP as police officers they get paid a higher rank and that higher rank is the pension they get. Got it brother.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anyone who is claiming that any FOP officers get any more pension perks is just wrong, wrong, wrong. Their pensions are based on their CPD pay grades; D1, D2, D2A, or D3. Nothing more. Don't believe me? Call the pension board.
Where do you guys come up with this shit? Even worse, some of you believe it without verifying it. No wonder this department is in such bad shape.
2/08/2014 11:10:00 AM
That's cool but they're rank is police officer right? Oh I see, cuz they're in FOP as police officers they get paid a higher rank and that higher rank is the pension they get. Got it brother.
2/08/2014 10:57:00 PM
No, I don't got it. You be wrong. The FOP pays that higher salary, not some rank paid by the City. The pension is paid at the civil service rank which may be D1, D2, D2a or D3. Jim McCarthy was a Legal Officer, paid at D3 but a PO.
But you can believe whatever false bullshit you care to believe. If it gets you to vote in the election all the better. Believe what you want. Lot's of people believe the earth was created 6,000 years ago and do not believe in evolution. Great, great. The earth is flat, the moon landing took place in a Hollywood studio etc.
I think you will be believing that FOP president etc. are paid at some higher rank and that it is pensionable. That is wrong but hey, it's a free country.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am in patrol and I am probably one of those 8 top earners. Best part-time gig you can get is court and VRI and I still have plenty of free time. Besides, the majority of people on my watch even things out by never arresting anyone, never doing anything but sleeping and certainly don't get any overtime.
2/07/2014 11:00:00 AM
i am also in patrol and the best part-time job is court, cta and vri. i see my family plenty and i am the provider. therefore, i work these gigs to better my retirement, pay off my house sooner and for my kids's education. no new cars or lavish living here. the key to these longer work weeks is taking care of your body and it all doesn't revolve around longer sleeping. be safe all.
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Keep trying to convince yourself of that since both of these comments were posted by the same person. Face it, you have no life outside this job
2/08/2014 06:34:00 PM
No one is convincing anyone anything. Hey father faker, why must you preach on about things you don't even know. That is the definition of an ignorant liberal. I replied to the initial comment as a different person and not the same officer. I am only responding to your comment because I can not stand ignorance or rudeness when an individual like yourself butts in to stir shit up like a troll. You are pathetic and I feel sorry for you so enjoy life being a bitter grouch who complains. Ha I bet everyone is real jealous of your life.
Police officers who are detailed to the FOP Lodge 7 do receive higher pay as determined by the board of directors. The FOP reimburses the city for pay and benefits of these board members, however, their pension is based on department rank, not the extra pay as an FOP board member.
i am also in patrol and the best part-time job is court, cta and vri. i see my family plenty and i am the provider. therefore, i work these gigs to better my retirement, pay off my house sooner and for my kids's education. no new cars or lavish living here. the key to these longer work weeks is taking care of your body and it all doesn't revolve around longer sleeping. be safe all.
2/08/2014 11:46:00 AM
Overtime is a mother. It's like military bonuses: some use it for nonsense and others use it well. I've been working a lot lately and though I'd like to scale it back I'm paying bills. The wife stays at home with my children just like we planned. I drive an old rusty beater and I live in a place that I can afford but I am trying to escape. How does a guy in my spot stop working side gigs? I'm aiming for the day I can stop hustling for side gigs because my family is more important to me. But that pre-k program teaching my little boy Spanish asks for cash, not love, come tuition time.
i am also in patrol and the best part-time job is court, cta and vri. i see my family plenty and i am the provider. therefore, i work these gigs to better my retirement, pay off my house sooner and for my kids's education. no new cars or lavish living here. the key to these longer work weeks is taking care of your body and it all doesn't revolve around longer sleeping. be safe all.
2/08/2014 11:46:00 AM
Overtime is a mother. It's like military bonuses: some use it for nonsense and others use it well. I've been working a lot lately and though I'd like to scale it back I'm paying bills. The wife stays at home with my children just like we planned. I drive an old rusty beater and I live in a place that I can afford but I am trying to escape. How does a guy in my spot stop working side gigs? I'm aiming for the day I can stop hustling for side gigs because my family is more important to me. But that pre-k program teaching my little boy Spanish asks for cash, not love, come tuition time.
2/09/2014 01:23:00 PM
You my friend are a lot like many others. Always trying to better your situation and doing what needs to be done to provide for your family. Take another look at your budget and what you and the family spend monthly. If you already drive a beater then take a look at what you spend on internet, cable, landline and miscellaneous but unnecessary habits. Just giving you advice because I too am the sole provider while my wife takes care of kids. Good luck buddy.
Your overtime is worth paying taxes for. You keep the dirtbags at bay. I'd rather have my tax money go to a hard working copper than another project scheme of the politically connected: Maggie Park, DePaul and bike lanes.
Anonymous said...
All Elected FOP personnel should only make their civil service pay. I thought running for office was done to improve conditions for the rank and file.
I don't give a rats ass how many hours you put in. Don't run for office if you don't like it b
2/07/2014 09:29:00 PM
Guess we should just throw in the towel right now. Nobody in their right mind would take that job without the pay when coppers are making overtime, vri ect.. But yeah lets reduced the pay to civil service rank and attract the dumbest of the dummies, like you.
A lot of OCD names are not on this "public record"…just search the last name of someone you know in narcotics….
Greed....just plain greed. Enjoy it while you can.
A lot of OCD names are not on this "public record"…just search the last name of someone you know in narcotics….
2/10/2014 02:21:00 AM
maybe they dont make any overtime, ever think of that? I see alot of guys who I do know in narcotics and they are on the list.. some also are not but I do know for a fact that they work days so no court time and many do a few buys in the morning and thats it. maybe they take all time. maybe they dont stay on late arrests. I work in a district and I didnt get a dime in overtime last year. I dont do court, I dont stay late and I dont make arrests.. zero overtime pay last year. anything that might be overtime or holiday i take for pay. simple.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A lot of OCD names are not on this "public record"…just search the last name of someone you know in narcotics….
2/10/2014 02:21:00 AM
maybe they dont make any overtime, ever think of that? I see alot of guys who I do know in narcotics and they are on the list.. some also are not but I do know for a fact that they work days so no court time and many do a few buys in the morning and thats it. maybe they take all time. maybe they dont stay on late arrests. I work in a district and I didnt get a dime in overtime last year. I dont do court, I dont stay late and I dont make arrests.. zero overtime pay last year. anything that might be overtime or holiday i take for pay. simple.
2/10/2014 07:35:00 PM
There's a LOT of names missing from that database, not just a few from Narcotics, or whatever. Dicks, financial, acouple hq people, all earned o.t., The media is being fooled.
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