Hmmm.....No Blood
5,000 Concealed Carry permits issued and not a single crime, shooting, busted streetlight or bloody street corner attributed to a lawfully owned/carried weapon. What the heck is everyone waiting for? Don't gun owners know that Rahm, McJersey and the media are waiting for the first instance?
And who knows what the next 24 hours will bring?
And who knows what the next 24 hours will bring?
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
113 Comments:
Expect lower crime rates. And real ones. Not the fake ones the socialists in charge of this town feed their media lapdogs who don't question the lies.
Great news. Illinois rejoins America and the unconstitutional ban on the Second Amendment that the socialists put in place is dead now.
If there was ever a perfect spot to call for a washdown...
I call fake. Nowhere in Chicago are you going to find a curb not covered in snow and ice, and bordered by green grass. That picture was taken in So. Florida.
Speaking of snow and ice. Artic Vortex III is on its way.
So true SCC!
You'd think Chicago was a chicken factory with all the squawkin' cluckin' shittin' and feathers flying everywhere about CCW...
Bunch of wet-eyed punks scared to death of their catered to constituents getting justifiably boomed for doing the fool by fed up and oppressed tax payers.
"Imma do da clown-booty dance on you if you don't gibs me whatchoo uuhhh ohhh shit! >FLASH!-BOOM!<
The yellow pinky nanny-statist libs will burn the fucking house down continuously trying to fry the rotten egg of opposition...
"M/fers will lie and a rotten egg will never fry..."
Grand-Daddy and his generation had these fuckers pegged even without living to lay eyes on them.
Ol' "yaller clay" wisdom in those words.
Hmmm.....No Snow
PART 1 OF 2...
Regarding a month of no special employment and no revenue generation...
It's important to stress that department rules prohibit coordinating, promoting or engaging in any type of "work action" or "slowdown". Advocating or knowingly participating in such an action is a terminable offense. However, they don't call it VOLUNTARY special employment for nothing. There's nothing to say everybody can volunteer NOT to work Special Employment on their RDOs in any given month.
That said, perhaps one of our RETIRED readers could take the lead in making suggestions as to when - by coincidence of course - no one puts in for any special employment for a summer month. June? July? August, perhaps?
And as far as writing anything that generates revenue...
No one is advocating you NOT doing your job. Write that parking ticket, mover, false burglar alarm citation, ANOV etcetera when the job requires.
However, there's this little thing called "discretion" when it comes to a lot of these things that make money for the city. You DON'T have to impound every vehicle. You DON'T have to write every parking ticket that doesn't have a complainant. And you sure as hell DON'T have to ANOV everybody and their mother walking around with an open beer or smoking on CTA property.
When supervisors get in your ass to produce the aforementioned things, politely tell them you'll be happy to oblige their requests as soon as they put it in writing in the CO book for everyone to see. And when they start fucking with you for noncompliance (it's called RETALIATION), roll with the punches and document everything accordingly. Those pesky little things supervisors call "indices"? Well, they're actually quotas.
Don't talk about it in squad cars. Don't text message your buddies about it. Don't email coworkers about it. And don't send PDT messages about it. Don't give the powers that be any ammunition to try and turn it into you as participating in a job action. Do what you feel is right and keep your mouth shut about it. Don't allude to being part of anything coordinated or orchestrated. If push comes to shove, you, as an individual, can fall back on the fact that you used your discretion or the reality that you simply didn't observe anything that would lead you to generate the types of activity the Bossholes demand for their own self-preservation. Here's a couple reminders of how we get it stuck in our asses:
* We waited over a year to get money earned from NATO overtime. They don't care that we worked two weeks straight without seeing our families. They didn't care when the arbitrator ruled in our favor. How much interest did the city pocket off all that money while they held onto it for an extra year?
* And speaking of holding onto your money and making interest on it ... were you aware that the city has up to 30 days to disburse the money you contribute every paycheck to your deferred compensation account? How many millions does this work out to every year?
Continued...
PART 2 OF 2
* We are consistently shorthanded manpower in just about every non-ghetto district. This translates to being able to use less elective time off.
* Our cars suck as do our PDT's and computers, printers and copiers in many stations. There are units that don't have copy paper, property bags etc. for weeks at a time.
* We were offered a pittance of a salary increase while teachers, garbagemen, alderman and the staff at City Hall (to name just a few) all got respectable raises - without waiting 2-3 years.
* THE MAYOR IS ACTIVELY PLOTTING WITH OTHER POLITICIANS ON HOW BEST TO DIMINISH OUR PENSION...while they wouldn't dream of diminishing the entitlements given to non-contributing leeches and illegal aliens ...oops, "undocumented" individuals. They openly thumb their noses at having to start putting the required monies into our pension fund as mandated by the state of Illinois.
* Your healthcare costs consistently climb and the quality of services diminish while the non-contributors who vote straight democratic en masse are able to have free healthcare and continue to live hedonistic lifestyles.
* They have bottomless coffers for pet projects amounting to hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars. Yet they've simultaneously allowed manpower to dwindle and again make you wait years to get a fair contract while actively pursuing ways to diminish your pension and retiree COLAs.
I think you get the point. So the question remains: what are you going do about it?
Rant [OFF] / ON
How many in Chicago? Cook county? Or mostly down state?
Governor candidates split on gun control measures
As Illinois prepares to become the last state in the nation to issue concealed-carry gun permits, the four Republicans contending for Illinois governor express a range of differing views about additional gun issues facing the state.
As Illinois prepares to become the last state in the nation to issue concealed-carry gun permits, the four Republicans contending for Illinois governor express a range of differing views about additional gun issues facing the state, including a proposed ban on assault-style weapons and stricter gun-crime sentences.
http://www.sj-r.com/article/20140225/NEWS/140229532/?tag=1
Hmmm....No Blood
No Snow.
Grass already green.
Must be the corner by Rahm's house.
CRIME UPDOWN, CITY TREND INOUT
...and SCC hangs in there for us in the age of official (and quasi-official, commercial, and completely unofficial-NGO-without-portfolio) Doublespeak, Tripletalk, and utter nonsense.
Thank you, Sir. Your time and effort are very much appreciated -- as always.
...and thanks to the poor fire probie hosin it off with a hand pump...or the LT if everyone else is busy...
I noticed quite a few "No Sig P220 " signs on certain buildimgs downtown. Much more so than the "No Beretta 92F" signs . They seem to have morphed from one to the other.
Anybody know the number issued to Chicago or Cook County residents?
Get your DVRs ready folks. Thursday night on CNN is the new CHICAGOLAND, from the producers of Newark's BRICK CITY. This should be the greatest Rahm/McCarthy puff piece in history.
Off Topic:
Can anyone report on the town hall meeting regarding pensions which was held on Saturday. I live out of state and am interested in the developments of this issue.
Just watched the Supt. on fox morning news and he had now depoliticized the department!
Keep waiting. It will be a while.
Sen. John Cullerton hates the CC law and currently has his staff working on future amendments that would restrict CC even further.
Everyone knows this law is full of pitfalls and gotchas for permit holders. Cullerton is working to make it worse.
It will be interesting to see how the justice system that can't control violent felons will deal with law-abiding citizens who forget not to make themselves defenseless on the CTA.
The are only three major primary races on the Republican ticket.
I call bullshit on the comments blaming voters for casting ballots for the Democrats when the GOP does not even have candidates running for most offices.
So do we just wait for the lawsuit to be filed for the "bad encounter or wrongful arrest" before the department puts together any training on concealed carry?
Now, let's talk about reciprocity.
Signed,
Missouri resident and Missouri CCW permit holer
But probably none issued to a city of Chicago resident yet.
Almost as uneventful as our training on the subject manner.
"Grand-Daddy and his generation had these fuckers pegged even without living to lay eyes on them."
Didn't have a Grand-Daddy like that, but when I was in grade school in the last third of the 60's, my best friend lived in the house opposite our back yard.
His Dad was a chemist and what the Left would call a real Right-winger.
He belonged to the John Birch Society (an entity once I learned about in adulthood is one I am in agreement) and he was a real gun enthusiast. He did his own re-loads and had powder and fuses galore.
He and his family moved away to Texas just as we were entering Jr. high and we lost touch.
As I get older, I think a lot about the things his Dad did and taught us: Camping, Shooting, Discipline, Loyalty, Responsibility and how to think for ourselves and before I ever heard Ronald Reagan say it, "trust but verify" in so many words.
"had these fuckers pegged" pegs it.
As corny and square as the Left has called conservative values, the Left has destroyed the threads that hold a vibrant self-sufficient society together.
Where we once had the off-spring of magnates (the one percenters) going to school and actually learning something and then growing-up and doing great things, now many of those privileged kids living in NYC, Chicago, LA think it's cool to talk Rap, call each other Nigga, get perpetually drunk, sip codine and worship money with no respect for what it takes to create it in redeeming, productive endeavors that serve the greatest numbers.
The Left and faux Right have given us diversity and destruction.
CCW coming to IL, hopefully will be the beginning of the brainwashed learning that most of society is still wired with redeeming values, can act responsibly and doesn't need glib, smooth-talking, politicians dictating what rights we are capable of handling and what rights we need them to manage for us.
Tiny Dancer and McStreetlight will take credit for the crime reduction caused by CC but will not give credit where credit is due.
betcha all of those CC permits were issued downstate
the police department can send everyone down to the academy for that bullshit legitimacy training but have been lax in bringing officers up to speed on the concealed carry issue--- when gun store employees know more about the law than leo's out in the field who are supposed to be enforcing the law you have a problem.....
Acording to Rham and the other far left commie types, there should be at least a dozen shooting a day.
However, if the shooting is good, such as a man protecting his daughter from being raped, they will ignore it.
To 12:58 am. I agree with you 100 percent . I think no voluntary special employment for a month would really make them think. You should still do your job, there are many ways to generate activity with not only not generating money but costing the city money. Do every job exactly according to general orders. The city has enough depts. for revenue they are not concerned about that. I do think if there was no one working voluntary employment on a hot July month and majority of cars were down on a one rock arrest, or a canvass on a burglary job things we are supposed to do it might get some attention. The problem I see is 75% of these guys will do anything for O.T. Hell they will do anything for a early car. I have to give the bosses credit they trained these scared coppers easier then I can train my dog. Good luck
SCC,
PLEASE make the text from "3/03/2014 12:58:00 AM" the subject of a main thread discussion here on your blog.
Finally. An articulate posting on subjects that effect all of us by someone who gets it.
Comment on no special employment.
It is a great idea for No one to volunteer for 1 month.
And since retirees love being involved in the FOP they could lead the charge with NO problem.
Its sad to say that grammar school teacher have more heart then us. They Boycott state test and receive News coverage all day.
So many time i see comments up about people have bill and kids go to Catholic school.
They are all COP OUTS.
So can FOP lead a Shadow movement like they did with Mikey shields.
Or may be the new FOP & board???
Hmmm Cline says no charges and low and be hold after Daley's nephew only gets 60 days little Cline gets merit Lt
Anonymous said...
I noticed quite a few "No Sig P220 " signs on certain buildimgs downtown. Much more so than the "No Beretta 92F" signs . They seem to have morphed from one to the other.
3/03/2014 02:59:00 AM
All right then, I'll carry my Glock G26
If you are looking to get your wife or significant other some training to get their ccw, check out the guy at triggerworkstraining.com. Actually has a decent class and gives a discount for you being on the job. We did a ccw house party and he came out.
There is no blood in that area because Rahm put a speed camera there!! For the children...
I wonder if McStrretlight will credit RTC when the violent crime rate goes down later this year???
Yea right..
OT: Sun Times isnt letting up on Vanecko case. For the first time, Mike Chasens' name was thrown into the mix. And didn't good old Mike make chief of detectives after this? Very interesting. Hope that nice house in Florida is in a trust Mike. You sold your sole too and its coming back to bite you in the ass!!
Doesnt matter how the Democommunists of Chicago try to spin it, CCW is a big Nationwide Success, with very few CCW Holders abusing the law. Rahm and his fellow communists are barking up the wrong tree if they think they can spin this to an anti gun status in a City that they haven't been able to get ahold of violent Crime running amuck since the 1950's.
I don't know where the hell this location is and I can assure you, SCC, it's not in Chicago. Todays Casimir Pulaski and the streets in my neighborhood are running a creamy rich brown from mushroom barley soup and pierogi! Stolatz!
Stabbing Attack in China Leaves 29 Dead - WSJ.com
online.wsj.com/.../SB1000142405270230470990...
The Wall Street Journal
2 days ago - More than 10 people armed with knives rampaged through a train station in southwestern China, killing 29 people and injuring 130 others
correction.
make that 33 dead.
they should have a city ordinance ban.
Retirees...!
Keep your ILLINOIS VOTING ADDRESS.
They now want to tax our pensions and vote.
(Of course pensions of Elected Officials will be exempt .)
Since we're on the topic of CCW, a bit of advice. I'm a member of the Concealed Carry Association of America. They offer plans to pay costs if a member is involved in a self-defense shooting. Up front bond money, if needed, access to attorneys who specialize in self-defense shootings and payment of retainers to hire same.
There are other companies that offer various plans similar to those offered by C.C.A.A.
Anyone involved in the 1st CCW self-defense shooting will have the entire weight of the criminal justice system on them looking to be made an example of.
Choose ANY company you want, but get coverage.
Under my plan I'm good for up to $600,000.
Does it cost, sure, but I carry and sleep better at night knowing I'm covered.
CCLs are only today arriving in the mailboxes of Chicagoland residents. IL Carry shows a post from someone in DuPage receiving theirs. I've yet to see someone in Cook County report they've received theirs. Most people get their mail when they're home from work in the evening.
3/03/2014 02:59:00 AM
Good luck enforcing that one.
Concealed carry means no other MF knows you're strapped.
And that is the Point. You carry concealed in case you need to defend yourself or your immediate area from criminal lethal force.
I'll fight a UUW with public opinion if I stop some jagoff hell bent to kill in any of the "No Gun" areas I travel through.
OT
this 15 question story by the times is getting a whole lot more interesting.
i was wondering when the great jimmy keating and sam roti were gonna be mentioned.
poor brian thomptsom…..
Unless larger numbers of middle class folks living in high crime areas pay the over-$400 for the license (training-plus-fee-plus-fingerprints) and start packing, the effect of this law will be to small to measure (as is the case with stupid "Scary-looking" gun bans).
It is very ill-advised to base protections of civil liberties (like respecting the 2nd Amendment) on utilitarian arguments like "it will reduce crime." What happens if the economy tanks and crime surges now, and gun-phobes try to blame CCL's?
The RKBA of the 2nd Am is a civil right, a right of a free people. That's all that matters.
OT: Chicago: The anchor dragging the rest of the state down the drain...
State Audit Questions 40% of Taxpayer Dollars Spent on Community Organizations in Cook County
A state audit conducted per (State Representative Dwight) Kay's request released February 25th questioned 40% of taxpayer dollars spent on community organizations in Chicago and Cook County. Illinois State Representative Dwight Kay (R-Glen Carbon) urged the Auditor General at a press conference last Tuesday to refer findings from the February 2014 audit of the Illinois Violence Prevention Authority's Neighborhood Recovery Initiative (NRI) to the Executive Inspector General (EIG) for further review and potentially the U.S. Attorney for further investigation of potential criminal activity.
"The State of Illinois has fleeced the taxpayers, what we have found today is criminal activity," said Rep. Kay. "When critical care services remain on the chopping block and transportation funding for schools have been cut, the Governor was able to increase limited state resources for the Neighborhood Recovery Initiative from $20 million to $50 million in less than two months."
Since October 2010, over $117 million has been earmarked by Governor Quinn, not the legislature to fund the program in question. In fact, over a two year period 40% of state funds were questioned in the audits findings, in other words, the state does not know where the money went.
http://www.dwightkay.org/state_audit_questions_40_of_taxpayer_dollars_spent_on_community_organizations_in_cook_county
rb
I think you get the point. So the question remains: what are you going do about it?
I think that your rant was well thought out. The one thing you missed was trying to get "ALL" the overtime PO's to get on board. It is easy money. Money that a lot of PO's have budgeted in their income. You know, "don't worry honey, we can afford that new car, I'll just work overtime... June, July and August is where I'll make that money."
So you see, trying to get a good majority of the PO's to go along with that plan will not work. It is something we have been dealing with for the past 40 years. There are to many "I need to get paid" out there and plenty more of, "Yea, me too."
Anonymous said...
I noticed quite a few "No Sig P220 " signs on certain buildimgs downtown. Much more so than the "No Beretta 92F" signs . They seem to have morphed from one to the other.
3/03/2014 02:59:00 AM
Which model to they affect,the european or american release model??
Off Topic...
HOLLYWOOD FORGOT DENNIS FARINA
Tough Guy Actor and Former Chicago Police Detective DENNIS FARINA was left off the "In Memorial" segment at the Oscars last night.
Look at all the things that did win. All the thymes about slavery an AIDS walked away with the statues (except for the tech awards) but they couldn't give an ex-Chicago Cop his due as an accomplished actor.
There were a few more, some you and I might agree with , some maybe not. Check this out:
http://www.salon.com/2014/03/03/10_people_the_academy_
should_have_mentioned_in_its
_in_memoriam_tribute/
if you feel the need to educate yourself properly:
http://www.handgunlaw.us/
https://ccl4illinois.com/ccw/public/home.aspx
I've got the slogan,what is Rham,and what's he been doing,I think July!
Since we're on the topic of CCW, a bit of advice. I'm a member of the Concealed Carry Association of America. They offer plans to pay costs if a member is involved in a self-defense shooting. Up front bond money, if needed, access to attorneys who specialize in self-defense shootings and payment of retainers to hire same.
There are other companies that offer various plans similar to those offered by C.C.A.A.
Anyone involved in the 1st CCW self-defense shooting will have the entire weight of the criminal justice system on them looking to be made an example of.
Choose ANY company you want, but get coverage.
Under my plan I'm good for up to $600,000.
Does it cost, sure, but I carry and sleep better at night knowing I'm covered.
3/03/2014 12:30:00 PM
Great idea, but check the plan carefully. I checked 2 out and both only paid liability if you were found not guilty. Also where does homeowners stand on your liability as I have a large umbrella? Am retired so I think homeowners covers me, but when I was working it didn't.
Anonymous said...
the police department can send everyone down to the academy for that bullshit legitimacy training but have been lax in bringing officers up to speed on the concealed carry issue--- when gun store employees know more about the law than leo's out in the field who are supposed to be enforcing the law you have a problem.....
3/03/2014 09:28:00 AM
Legitimacy training or the official title is procedural justice invented by Harvard University. That was part 1. Then they had true north, leadership training for white shirts. Now we have the best trained white shirts in the country. The crack crew at the academy with their vast knowledge of leadership provided the best training. Next! Procedural Justice part 2! More training that helps no one expect a day off the street. Maybe, they could do a informal survey and ask participants how they felt about this training? Where are classes on law updates or tactics? Sadly, they focus on ethics and leadership. Who is in charge of training officers on the street?
Just casted my vote early.
This motherfuckers politicians have two referendums in the ballot. One, is to ban high capacity gun magazines, the other, to prohibit guns in establishments were alcohol is served...again NO GUNS in any establishment that serves alcohol.
Vote "NO" to both of them and lets get rid of (The Machine) Berrios/ Madigan family and cronies.
OT --
Chicago's Billionaires -- or mostly "Pritzkers! See the Pritzkers!"
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-chicago-billionaires-2014,0,7860023.photogallery
Including the world's first "transgender" billionaire, yet.
Really breaking new ground here...
Anonymous said...
Off Topic...
HOLLYWOOD FORGOT DENNIS FARINA
Tough Guy Actor and Former Chicago Police Detective DENNIS FARINA was left off the "In Memorial" segment at the Oscars last night.
Look at all the things that did win. All the thymes about slavery an AIDS walked away with the statues (except for the tech awards) but they couldn't give an ex-Chicago Cop his due as an accomplished actor.
3/03/2014 02:22:00 PM
They put Dennis Farina up on their In Memoriam page at least.
http://oscar.go.com/photos/2014-oscars-in-memoriam/media/farina_dennis_actor
"Which model to they affect,the european or american release model??"
3/03/2014 02:22:00 PM
Sign means "No Guns In This Building." Period.
After all, CCW as implemented in Chicago means "Leave it at home" for a lot of people.
Anonymous said...
OT
this 15 question story by the times is getting a whole lot more interesting.
i was wondering when the great jimmy keating and sam roti were gonna be mentioned.
poor brian thomptsom…..
3/03/2014 01:11:00 PM
Yep and strangely they all got big promotions during this time and jimmy keating getting 140K pension and another Cush job making 200k with another pension could not be cause they kept mouth shut! Or could it? Wonder if new FBI director and new U.S. Attorney will be knockng on their doors soon?
do the feds need any help in investigating the Koschman case?.......methinks there are a few former guys around that would help....
The dept. put out some messages regarding concealed carry which tells you the direction they are leaning towards. The thing that stands out is the addition of a new ucr code that reads something like “prohibited places”. It then goes on to describe the places that people would be prohibited from carrying even with a ccw permit. The list is quite long and includes places like cta properties, city properties, schools, hospitals, bars, liquor stores etc. They would have done better to just list the places where it is allowed. They lost the overall ruling regarding concealed carry, so they are just going to restrict the hell out of the places that you can carry and push for arrests for any violations.
As someone pointed out earlier, make sure you have some extra insurance to support your decision to carry because the media is going to spin the first bonafide concealed carry shooting into some sort of racial incident or another trav martin case no matter how legit it was.
Anonymous said...
Anybody know the number issued to Chicago or Cook County residents?
3/03/2014 06:49:00 AM
In the first month since applications were accepted by ISP, over 33,000 were issued with over 1/3 coming from Cook county. The commie politicians are anti gun, but the people are certainly not.
OT: what's up with the PPO starting a fight with POs and a LT at a promotional party last week?!
Anonymous said...
I think you get the point. So the question remains: what are you going do about it?
I think that your rant was well thought out. The one thing you missed was trying to get "ALL" the overtime PO's to get on board. It is easy money. Money that a lot of PO's have budgeted in their income. You know, "don't worry honey, we can afford that new car, I'll just work overtime... June, July and August is where I'll make that money."
So you see, trying to get a good majority of the PO's to go along with that plan will not work. It is something we have been dealing with for the past 40 years. There are to many "I need to get paid" out there and plenty more of, "Yea, me too."
3/03/2014 01:41:00 PM
You're both 100% right. There's too many money hungry Officers who can't step back and look at the big picture. One month of no volunteers for VRI or any other special would serve notice to the department and to the city that we are united.
Sadly, it'll never happen.
PART 1 OF 2...
Regarding a month of no special employment and no revenue generation...
It's important to stress that department rules prohibit coordinating, promoting or engaging in any type of "work action" or "slowdown". Advocating or knowingly participating in such an action is a terminable offense. However, they don't call it VOLUNTARY special employment for nothing. There's nothing to say everybody can volunteer NOT to work Special Employment on their RDOs in any given month.
That said, perhaps one of our RETIRED readers could take the lead in making suggestions as to when - by coincidence of course - no one puts in for any special employment for a summer month. June? July? August, perhaps?
And as far as writing anything that generates revenue...
No one is advocating you NOT doing your job. Write that parking ticket, mover, false burglar alarm citation, ANOV etcetera when the job requires.
However, there's this little thing called "discretion" when it comes to a lot of these things that make money for the city. You DON'T have to impound every vehicle. You DON'T have to write every parking ticket that doesn't have a complainant. And you sure as hell DON'T have to ANOV everybody and their mother walking around with an open beer or smoking on CTA property.
When supervisors get in your ass to produce the aforementioned things, politely tell them you'll be happy to oblige their requests as soon as they put it in writing in the CO book for everyone to see. And when they start fucking with you for noncompliance (it's called RETALIATION), roll with the punches and document everything accordingly. Those pesky little things supervisors call "indices"? Well, they're actually quotas.
Don't talk about it in squad cars. Don't text message your buddies about it. Don't email coworkers about it. And don't send PDT messages about it. Don't give the powers that be any ammunition to try and turn it into you as participating in a job action. Do what you feel is right and keep your mouth shut about it. Don't allude to being part of anything coordinated or orchestrated. If push comes to shove, you, as an individual, can fall back on the fact that you used your discretion or the reality that you simply didn't observe anything that would lead you to generate the types of activity the Bossholes demand for their own self-preservation. Here's a couple reminders of how we get it stuck in our asses:
* We waited over a year to get money earned from NATO overtime. They don't care that we worked two weeks straight without seeing our families. They didn't care when the arbitrator ruled in our favor. How much interest did the city pocket off all that money while they held onto it for an extra year?
* And speaking of holding onto your money and making interest on it ... were you aware that the city has up to 30 days to disburse the money you contribute every paycheck to your deferred compensation account? How many millions does this work out to every year?
Continued...
Excellent Post!!!!!! One of the best!!!!! Here's the slogan, "No VRI in July!!!!"
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/realestate/chi-illinois-gun-law-real-estate-20140303,0,6609878.story
So as a seller, I am going to turn someone down who might buy my house because they might have a gun? CCW means it is concealed. The seller would never have to know.. love the part of "this is a non issue in other states".
O/T
Two Phoenix Police Detective shot. One Detective has passed away during surgery, the other Detective is still in surgery. Condolences to the family and friends. Praying for them. Please keep them in your prayers.
-retired CPD in Phoenix.
Anonymous said...
Just casted my vote early.
This motherfuckers politicians have two referendums in the ballot. One, is to ban high capacity gun magazines, the other, to prohibit guns in establishments were alcohol is served...again NO GUNS in any establishment that serves alcohol.
Vote "NO" to both of them and lets get rid of (The Machine) Berrios/ Madigan family and cronies.
3/03/2014 03:34:00 PM
Wouldn't it be better to simply make it illegal to shoot someone? All this illegal on alternate Thursdays to carry left hand semi autos, what the fuck. What do these morons think they will stop by these additional stupid nonsensical gun laws? Dude is not going to pay the slightest attention to decals, no guns here bullshit. Dude will just figure no one but him will have a gun and announce, stick 'em up.
They get so pleased with themselves, they just have to ban something. If nothing else, they can think they ban pistols at the Starbucks, whoopdeedoo. The extent of my assistance in an emergency in one of those No Guns decal places will be to walk down the street and call 911. If I can remember.
Wait till the first school shooting at a school with those decals. "But we had a No Guns decal!" "Guns are bannnned here!" Morons.
Unfortunately neither has an honor roll out seeking donations fallen down either.
Anonymous said...
I think that your rant was well thought out. The one thing you missed was trying to get "ALL" the overtime PO's to get on board. It is easy money. Money that a lot of PO's have budgeted in their income. You know, "don't worry honey, we can afford that new car, I'll just work overtime... June, July and August is where I'll make that money."
3/03/2014 01:41:00 PM
I have told people over the years, PO's should never buy a new car, learn to live with a used car and keep it up and drive it for a long time and pay cash.
Here is why, with no car payment, if you are disciplined enough, take that $500 a month, sent it to Deferred Comp religiously every month for 30 years. Figure you get only 5% out of that long term investment, only the car payment of $500 now.
After 30 years that car payment savings grows to $442,935.78 That's a lot better than memories of a bunch of shiny cars that depreciate the moment you drive them home.
Now, if you get really wild and put $1,000 a month into deferred for 30 years at only 5% you will have $859,065.10 at the end.
Then, when you retire, and only then, do you take some cash from your comp time payout and go buy a new car.
Lake County - got my CCW license in the mailbox today...
"I fart in your general direction" part 2 of 2. I'm going to play devils advocate for just one example of why you royally fuck this department when you DON'T use your time due. I used to burn my time like a drunken sailor when I was relatively new on this job (5-10 years)Then one day I overheard a conversation between a couple of older PO's about how much time due they had on the books and I puffed my chest out and proudly stated "I got over 700 hours on the books" as I swaggered around the room. The other PO looked at me and said "that ain't shit, I got close to 2000 hours on the books and would have had 2200 but I burned a couple hundred this past year due to a family emergency. Needless to say I shit my pants and never burned another hour of comp time and burned only P-days V days and BFD days from then on. I retired and left with 2200 hrs on the books. The city is paying me for the current hourly rate for every frickin hour I earned ten years ago at half my current hourly rate. The gist of it is you screw the city when you cash out those thousands of hours at the current rate as opposed to burning them during your career. I retired with a whole years pay that the city had to pay me to which I say thank you for the nice down payment on my Florida condo. Life can be sweet if you practice a slightly different type of deferred compensation.
3/03/2014 12:58:00 AM
You asked what are you going to do about it? Well everyday when I come to work, I do what I have to do. I know the mayor and the politicians appreciate me so I respond in kind.
Prayers to Police Officers from Phoenix
Anonymous Anonymous said...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/realestate/chi-illinois-gun-law-real-estate-20140303,0,6609878.story
So as a seller, I am going to turn someone down who might buy my house because they might have a gun? CCW means it is concealed. The seller would never have to know.. love the part of "this is a non issue in other states".
3/03/2014 06:48:00 PM
All of these things are a non-issue elsewhere. Illinois, especially Chicago, has created such an alien environment, SO different from the rest of the country, that it will take YEARS to acclimate to what is NORMAL most everywhere else.
Please go to danielfaulkner.com and sign the petition opposing the nomination of Debo Adegbile as head of the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division. Adegbile led the legal defense of the murderer of Philadelphia Police Officer Daniel Faulkner. Adegbile turned Faulkner's murderer into a cause célèbre for all those who hate police officers. If he is nominated, he will be the head of the division that decides when to charge police officers with federal civil rights crimes.
The petition must be signed by March 5.
oh its coming.
Don't forget that at least 25% tax still has to come out of your $443k deferred comp. That's roughly 110k and assuming you're not in a higher tax bracket.
3/03/2014 12:58:00 AM
What can we do about it??? This city and department are corrupt. The fix is in and there isn't a damn thing we can do about it-- work slow down or not. The best bet is to jump ship while you are still young enough to start a new career and move forward.
speaking as a non cpd member I can only hope things change for the better for all of you. god bless and thanks for trying.
Wife got her's yesterday, a Shitcago resident. The big question was honey, "do I look better with the 9 or the 380"? Seriously she did get it so Chicago residents do have them as of Monday.
Anonymous said...
Don't forget that at least 25% tax still has to come out of your $443k deferred comp. That's roughly 110k and assuming you're not in a higher tax bracket.
3/04/2014 12:45:00 AM
Disagree only 25% if your in that tax bracket! but the way pensions are going we will be in lower bracket after they take it! because it looks like billionaire Bruce rauner may win governors race and will as he states take pensions and reduce them to 401k!
Anonymous said...
OT: what's up with the PPO starting a fight with POs and a LT at a promotional party last week?!
3/03/2014 06:26:00 PM
Let us know,haven't heard about it.
If true, a great way to start out on the job.
OT: what's up with the PPO starting a fight with POs and a LT at a promotional party last week?!
Dont know... Did the PPO almost kick your ass or what? What district?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/realestate/chi-illinois-gun-law-real-estate-20140303,0,6609878.story
They want consent to allow an armed BUYER into the house? How many hundreds of real estate AGENTS have applied for CCW? They are scared to death of showing houses -- even condos or apartments -- due to all of the robberies, rapes, etc. they have been victims of. "Have your cell phone on speed dial 911 and keep it in your hand at all times..."
One law with ten thousand little side rules and regs that will make the law essentially meaningless for a lot of people. That's the whole idea.
TIP
Tommy Dart objecting to 14 guys who are firearms instructors. NO B.S.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/video?clipId=9908135&topVideoCatNo=230378&autoStart=true
HOLLYWOOD FORGOT DENNIS FARINA
The only good thing about the Oscars was Ellen's comment in her opening monologue. She stated that the nominees had 1400 hours of experience in film between them. She then added they had 6 hours of college between them. They are a bunch of overpaid liberal scum that want to suck money from the sheeple. Over rated and full of themselves thinking they can dictate politics to run the country. God Bless Dennis Farina. They'd rather honor druggies!
Retired
First of all when the crime rate goes down the gun population will have nothing to do with it....it will because of McCarthy's and the Mayor's strategy. No matter what we believe to be the reason, it will play out to be that of great leaders who curtailed the violence. FACT
Luv'n it !! brazen Michigan Avenue theft on 1st week of cutbacks to officers working Michigan Ave. VRI....You can always count on the element to take advantage of the weaknesses.
3/03/2014 01:11:00 PM
Yep and strangely they all got big promotions during this time and jimmy keating getting 140K pension and another Cush job making 200k with another pension could not be cause they kept mouth shut! Or could it? Wonder if new FBI director and new U.S. Attorney will be knockng on their doors soon?
3/03/2014 04:27:00 PM
Leave Jim Keating alone. He was/is extremely qualified to lead men and women
However, there's this little thing called "discretion" when it comes to a lot of these things that make money for the city. You DON'T have to impound every vehicle. You DON'T have to write every parking ticket that doesn't have a complainant. And you sure as hell DON'T have to ANOV everybody and their mother walking around with an open beer or smoking on CTA property.
YES, the above writer is correct, there is discretion and you can use it, but don't think that this word will shelter you from a complaint should it come your way. If someone files a complaint against you because you did not enforce a law/ordinance, you better have an excuse better then " I used my discretion". And, I speak from experience as one who worked in IAD and one who was caught up in this type of incident.
Tiny Dancer and McNutsy are a package deal so the fact that you have idiots running the show is just the voters getting what they wanted, idiots. Y'all voted for idiots. Detroit has idiots running the show, New York has idiots running the show. The US education system keeps putting out voters who vote for idiots. Get used to it.
The 16+ hours of ccw BS and $600+ taught me one thing-keep the sabre crossfire handy. I dont have enough money to protect myself with a gun in illinois.
Don't forget that at least 25% tax still has to come out of your $443k deferred comp. That's roughly 110k and assuming you're not in a higher tax bracket.
3/04/2014 12:45:00 AM
Disagree only 25% if your in that tax bracket! but the way pensions are going we will be in lower bracket after they take it! because it looks like billionaire Bruce rauner may win governors race and will as he states take pensions and reduce them to 401k!
Nothing to disagree about. Everyone who retires today from this job is in the 25% bracket, especially if you have been on long enough to put 443K in deferred.
Anonymous said...
Don't forget that at least 25% tax still has to come out of your $443k deferred comp. That's roughly 110k and assuming you're not in a higher tax bracket.
3/04/2014 12:45:00 AM
Disagree only 25% if your in that tax bracket! but the way pensions are going we will be in lower bracket after they take it! because it looks like billionaire Bruce rauner may win governors race and will as he states take pensions and reduce them to 401k!
Most if not all po's and for sure sgts and above are in the 25% bracket. You forgot to add the 5% state tax. Deferred is not exempt from state tax like our pension is.
So know you are talking 30%. And by the way one civic federation group recommended to Quinn to start taxing our pension to help with the state shortfall.
OT: Madigan wants state to spend $100 million on Obama library
See how easy it is to fund bullshit? How about our pensions?
Tommy Dart objecting to 14 guys who are firearms instructors. NO B.S.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/video?clipId=9908135&topVideoCatNo=230378&autoStart=true
3/04/2014 10:22:00 AM
How is this considered Shall Issue??? Objecting due to an arrest record but no convictions??
Anonymous said...
Don't forget that at least 25% tax still has to come out of your $443k deferred comp. That's roughly 110k and assuming you're not in a higher tax bracket.
3/04/2014 12:45:00 AM
Only if you are silly enough to take it in large chunks. Smaller withdrawals and it is retirement income means lower taxes.
Anonymous said...
OT: what's up with the PPO starting a fight with POs and a LT at a promotional party last week?!
Why don't you ask him during recess?
Anonymous said...
The 16+ hours of ccw BS and $600+ taught me one thing-keep the sabre crossfire handy. I dont have enough money to protect myself with a gun in illinois.
3/04/2014 06:28:00 PM
Forget OC and other chemical "restraints".Get a good knife and get some training from a competant trainer.
You can carve up junebug real nice with a good blade.
Slash,cut,pierce and scoot.
Ex-Black Panther leader freed 4 decades after being convicted of killing Baltimore officer
Published March 04, 2014
| Associated Press
BALTIMORE – A former leader of the Black Panthers has been released from prison more than four decades after being convicted of killing a Baltimore police officer.
Sixty-seven-year-old Marshall "Eddie" Conway was freed from the prison in Jessup on Tuesday. It came after state prosecutors agreed to change his life sentence to time served and probation.
Conway is one of dozens of inmates who have been released after Maryland's Court of Appeals ruled in 2012 that judges had given improper instructions to juries before 1980.
Conway was convicted in 1971 of fatally shooting 35-year-old Donald Sager as Sager and another officer sat in a marked patrol car in April 1970.
He has always denied any participation in the attack.
fire the ppo before he gets off probation , kid will cost city big money in the future
why pay for ccw , apply for foid , purchase a weapon and carry it unloaded WITH AMMO CLOSE BY USE WHEN YOUR LIFE IS THREATENED. people carry all the time to and from range ,
3/03/2014 12:54:00 AM
3/03/2014 12:58:00 AM
I would love to see this posted each and everyday on each blog. If it becomes rote memory for each PO who works VRI, maybe during the summer months when the ghetto's rise up, the city will see through Rahm and Gary's BS!
Only if you are silly enough to take it in large chunks. Smaller withdrawals and it is retirement income means lower taxes.
3/05/2014 01:04:00 AM
Wrong!!! This job pays a good pension that puts you in the 25% bracket. What does retirement income have to do with anything? Income is income and the feds don't lower the tax because its retirement income. Whether you get a 75K salary or a 75K pension, the federal tax is the same.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Only if you are silly enough to take it in large chunks. Smaller withdrawals and it is retirement income means lower taxes.
3/05/2014 01:04:00 AM
Tax on $USC pulled out of deferred comp is 20%.1k withdraw= $800 check sent to you. 10K = 8k check.And anything you pull out is considered income no matter what you use it for. Pulled 20K for tuitions, got dinged with the 20% + raised my "income level"
Retired
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Only if you are silly enough to take it in large chunks. Smaller withdrawals and it is retirement income means lower taxes.
3/05/2014 01:04:00 AM
Tax on $USC pulled out of deferred comp is 20%.1k withdraw= $800 check sent to you. 10K = 8k check.And anything you pull out is considered income no matter what you use it for. Pulled 20K for tuitions, got dinged with the 20% + raised my "income level"
Retired
3/05/2014 05:49:00 PM
That's a penalty for premature withdrawal. A whole different animal.
http://illinoiscarry.com/
Only if you are silly enough to take it in large chunks. Smaller withdrawals and it is retirement income means lower taxes.
3/05/2014 01:04:00 AM
Tax on $USC pulled out of deferred comp is 20%.1k withdraw= $800 check sent to you. 10K = 8k check.And anything you pull out is considered income no matter what you use it for. Pulled 20K for tuitions, got dinged with the 20% + raised my "income level"
Retired
3/05/2014 05:49:00 PM
That's a penalty for premature withdrawal. A whole different animal.
Whos talking about premature withdrawal. Deferred takes out the 20% from your check. Has nothing to do with early withdrawal. Early withdrawal is like a 10% penalty
Only if you are silly enough to take it in large chunks. Smaller withdrawals and it is retirement income means lower taxes.
3/05/2014 01:04:00 AM
Tax on $USC pulled out of deferred comp is 20%.1k withdraw= $800 check sent to you. 10K = 8k check.And anything you pull out is considered income no matter what you use it for. Pulled 20K for tuitions, got dinged with the 20% + raised my "income level"
Retired
3/05/2014 05:49:00 PM
That's a penalty for premature withdrawal. A whole different animal.
No one is talking about early withdrawal. Deferred takes out the 20% so you will not be stuck with a huge tax bill at the end of the year. Not sure,but you can request thst you sign a waiver of the 20% withholding. Have done that on other large withdrawals from stock account.
One last thing, just because deferred takes out 20% to make it look like you are getting more, does not mean you owe the 20%. In most cases with the pension plus the deferred, you will be in the 25% bracket. Thats why I request deferred take out 25% of my deferred.
A retired guy whos been there and done that.
I'm taking note of the businesses displaying the anti-2A signs, save for establishments that serve excessive amounts of alcohol.
I will not do business with those establishments that display that sign, unless I have no choice.
There's not a lot I can do about the anti-2A crowd, but I can avoid giving them my money, when they advertise.
I urge others to do so as well. It will make an impact.
I'm impressed with how few establishments are displaying the sign so far in my neighborhood.
-Citizen
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