Angelo Wins FOP Presidency
Congratulations.
Now everyone bitching and moaning, get to some meetings and hold these peoples' feet to the fire. We're in serious straits and we need serious people involved keeping an eye on shit - not just FOP office holders and not just the same 200 guys who attend meetings.
E.V.E.R.Y.O.N.E.
Now everyone bitching and moaning, get to some meetings and hold these peoples' feet to the fire. We're in serious straits and we need serious people involved keeping an eye on shit - not just FOP office holders and not just the same 200 guys who attend meetings.
E.V.E.R.Y.O.N.E.
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posted by SCC at 3:45 PM
108 Comments:
OT, but strong Rumor:
Feds getting ready to indict numerous [over 100] ex- CPD-CFD on Disability Fraud / Theft /and crossing State Lines to Commit Fraud Charges. Undercover investigation shows disabled CPD & CFD golfing at Golf Courses, carrying bags and golf clubs thru Airports, Fishing, Hunting, partying on the Beach and local taverns, drinking, working out at Health Clubs and Gyms, jogging, working on houses, cutting grass, shoveling snow, loading numerous supplies into their cars and trucks at Home Depot type stores, general fucking around with friends, and all sorts of things they're restricted from doing, after claiming Disability, from bad backs, bad hearts, bad circulation, dizzy spells, and numerous other ailments they're currently on Disability for. etc. Indictments coming by summer. Coast to Coast Investigation. Even got a few Females. Feds also rumored to have witnesses to payoffs, done to obtain Disability Approvals. Rumor has it this is just one of the things that have to be done first, before justifying Pension Cuts by Political Leaders. They should prepare to be fucked, Big-Time, including Felony Federal Criminal Charges and IRS Audits. Supposedly it's going to make the NYC Disability Scam Indictments look pale in comparison.
To me it was like trying to pick a winner in the Iran/Iraq War.
So Angelo hasn't been around for 12 years and now he is the President. I hope he does well, but we did this three years ago and look what happened. I hope the next three years are different. As an active member, I wish Dean the very best.
I call bull shit, Good luck dean
Fuck em lock them all up........
3:47. The Feds can't stop terrorists or illegal aliens from entering the country nor can they stop the dead beats stealing welfare benefits and you'll have me believe the had an all out push to go after 1st responders. Duh!
Now more than ever before we need to hold FOP officers and reps feet to the fire. Don't think paying your dues is enough....we need to know what's going on.
Great, now dean sr. gets to set up dean jr. for his own run for pres. in 3 yrs.. Another chicago dynasty!! You, the people that didnt vote, are to blame for this chirade! And Fuck you Mike Shields, you cause this as well!
Nice
Thx for your years of service Bill. Good luck Dean .
OT: Park Forest Taylor charged with in Death of 95 year old knife wielding man.
In bringing charges, the States Attorney's Office is setting a bad precedence.
The Officers tried to de-escalate the situation for 7 minutes.
A Corporal was requested and arrived at the scene.
A Commander was then requested and arrived at the scene.
The Officers opened the bedroom door and Wrana did not drop his knife.
Officer Taylor utilized less then lethal force. Sounds like the ASA'S are using a ridiculous bean bag distance justification for charges. He could have legally utilized lethal force.
Wrana refused medical treatment and died.
The scary part is that ASA Delaney stated that the Officers "SHOULD HAVE RETREATED"
In other words, Police Officers now need to consider retreating before using force while making a lawful arrest-or they risk facing charges.
To those who blame the officer, ask yourselves....
What did the Officer do that went against his training (or the training we all received)
I still support Officer Taylor
Fuck these phones balonys on disability . I'm all for it!
Anonymous said...
OT, but strong Rumor:
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If they can legally prove this, then they should ALL be removed from the pension funds at a minimum.
What you're likely to find after any bullshit propagandizing is finished could be that these people had doctors who testified that these people can't return to work because they're not SUPPOSED to be doing certain things, and the pension fund agreed they could not return to work because they weren't SUPPOSED to be doing those things.
This doesn't mean these people won't go out and do all the things they're not supposed to be doing against what their doctor tells them.
And if that is the case, then nothing can be done because the city cannot take these people back to work when a doctor says they can't perform certain functions.
Just because some cop goes out and does everything he's not supposed to do doesn't mean the city can take that liability and use it against that cop. The city can't force you to work against your doctor's orders, even if you're stupid enough to violate those orders and go out and do all the shit you're not supposed to be doing.
So, in those cases, the answer is tough shit. The city can't take the liability, and just because someone's stupid enough to violate their doctor's orders doesn't mean they can be convicted of committing a crime, only poor medical judgement and failure to abide by their doctor's rulings.
See, you people need to understand that because a doctor says his patient cannot lift 50 pounds above his/her head doesn't mean they can't PHYSICALLY do it, it means they're not supposed to do it because they could cause further damage.
Very few if any doctors ever testify that their patient is physically unable to perform a task, they testify that their patient should NOT perform a task because of the risk.
So whatever this bullshit is, it's most likely just more bullshit grandstanding in an attempt to con the public. Because once any of this shit gets to court you'll see it all get thrown out.
But then again, the entire point is to try and piss people off with false information and bullshit investigations, not actually inform the public as to what's really going on.
There is far too much time between election and inauguration. Watch the books boys!
Fed rumor is true. The academy is scrambling to find classrooms to use cause the city is going to offer some amnesty to a most of them. Gonna have about 80 retreads at one time compared to around 4 at a time. Deputy is going to make them all wear their sweats. Ok...that last part is not true...but should.
Anonymous said...
OT, but strong Rumor:
So the FEDS are saying officers on disability cannot have a life in pain! If the Pension board awarded disability payments, then the entire Board should be fired for not doing their jobs!!
Speaking of winning, when are we getting the test results?
Dean is the lesser of two evils.
Good luck Dean. Any numbers on how many votes cast?
Dougherty was no prize, but we elected the guy that was on Nolan's team when they allowed the city to start taking pension holidays? Genius.
Good , put them in jail , make them pay back money collected . Officers that are able to drive to take their kids to school , attend school , travel to other states should be reevaluated and forced back to work . If they can only sit for 3 hour shifts , require them to work two shifts . CTA employees have long breaks between shifts .
Angelo better address this problem .
To many phony duty disability claims . Years ago disabled people demanded to work , now we have slackers draining our pension
I hope that post #1, regarding disability, is factual.
We all know that there are many fakers receiving disability and they all belong in jail!
will Dean Angelo bring retirees back into the lodge so they then have to constantly rebargain for benefits they already have in perpetuity?
Dean swears he wants to bring them back into the lodge completely, but what does that cost a member who's already retired?
When you retire you enter into a binding contract with the city until certain time lines are met like reaching medicare age.
If you were a retiree, would you want to have to defend and bargain all over again for the contractual rights you already have and are protected by contract law and the pension clause or do you want to have to constantly pay attention to the bullshit of this job and then have to compete against active members to protect the benefits you're already guaranteed?
We need Dean Angelo to prove to the membership that there is no risk to retirees by letting them back into the lodge and giving them a voice in contractual matters that may be at odds with active members.
If you retire at 55 and get 2% insurance premium until you're medicare age, do you really want to open that bullshit up every 4 years and subject yourself to possibly higher premiums because some other retiree wants something different than you want or because some active members couldn't give a shit about retirement at this point in their careers?
Retirees don't need to be involved in police contracts and all the bullshit that goes with it. They're already protected by state laws and the constitution, and they agreed to those terms before they retired. Let them live in peace without having to watch the fucking union and a contract every few years.
Anonymous said...
OT, but strong Rumor:
Feds getting ready to indict numerous [over 100] ex- CPD-CFD on Disability Fraud / Theft /and crossing State Lines to Commit Fraud Charges. Undercover investigation shows disabled CPD & CFD golfing at Golf Courses, carrying bags and golf clubs thru Airports, Fishing, Hunting, partying on the Beach and local taverns, drinking, working out at Health Clubs and Gyms, jogging, working on houses, cutting grass, shoveling snow, loading numerous supplies into their cars and trucks at Home Depot type stores, general fucking around with friends, and all sorts of things they're restricted from doing, after claiming Disability, from bad backs, bad hearts, bad circulation, dizzy spells, and numerous other ailments they're currently on Disability for. etc. Indictments coming by summer. Coast to Coast Investigation. Even got a few Females. Feds also rumored to have witnesses to payoffs, done to obtain Disability Approvals. Rumor has it this is just one of the things that have to be done first, before justifying Pension Cuts by Political Leaders. They should prepare to be fucked, Big-Time, including Felony Federal Criminal Charges and IRS Audits. Supposedly it's going to make the NYC Disability Scam Indictments look pale in comparison.
Heard it to many times, they deserve to get screwed but they wont
Lets get active on Senate Bill 1922.
Urge your State Sen to vote NO on Senate Bill 1922.
If your State Sen votes YES..........be sure to Vote Them Out when they come up for election.
They are putting the bulk of this reform on our shoulders.
We pay as employees and we pay as taxpayers.
There is money for every special project except the retirees and current Gov workers.
We already pay a 60 percent penalty on our social security benefits if we worked a previous job prior to Gov work under the Windfall Act.
Most of us don't get Social Security.
We should pay attention to how every one of our politicians vote.
Make a note of how they vote...and then we vote.
Congrats to Lt. Garrido. He is finally on the winning side of an election that he was involved in. Things are now going to actually get worse.
OT, but strong Rumor:
Feds getting ready to indict numerous [over 100] ex- CPD-CFD on Disability Fraud / Theft /and crossing State Lines to Commit Fraud Charges. Undercover investigation shows disabled CPD & CFD golfing at Golf Courses, carrying bags and golf clubs thru Airports . . .
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HEY SCC!
I tried to tell you about this about 5 years ago but you basically ripped me and called me a liar!!
As I said then .. you won't report on it until you see a story on it in the moronic Slum Times.
Bill Dougherty and Co. have basically walked scammers thru the disability plot and FOP paid for scamming attorneys to represent them.
I would love to see it. scum bags!!!! They are killing our pension.
Can't say I'm an Angelo fan, but I couldn't be happier that lying, no good Dougherty got the boot, go hang out with Shields you turncoat!
Feds getting ready to indict numerous [over 100] ex- CPD-CFD on Disability Fraud / Theft /and crossing State Lines to Commit Fraud Charges.
Ya, ok.
This one ranks right up there with the conspiracy theory that Marge Simpson was the second shooter on the grassy knoll.
Feds getting ready to indict numerous [over 100] ex- CPD-CFD on Disability Fraud / Theft /and crossing State Lines to Commit Fraud Charges.
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Most of us that had a IOD could not wait to get back to the job. Hope all these crooks hit the shitter and lose all. No better then the people who claim bs injuries in vehicle accidents. Fraud does nor pay.
OT. What happened yesterday with the new park district overtime?
Anonymous said...
OT, but strong Rumor:
Feds getting ready to indict numerous [over 100] ex- CPD-CFD on Disability Fraud / Theft /and crossing State Lines to Commit Fraud Charges. Undercover investigation shows disabled CPD & CFD golfing at Golf Courses, carrying bags and golf clubs thru Airports, Fishing, Hunting, partying on the Beach and local taverns, drinking, working out at Health Clubs and Gyms, jogging, working on houses, cutting grass, shoveling snow, loading numerous supplies into their cars and trucks at Home Depot type stores, general fucking around with friends, and all sorts of things they're restricted from doing, after claiming Disability, from bad backs, bad hearts, bad circulation, dizzy spells, and numerous other ailments they're currently on Disability for. etc. Indictments coming by summer. Coast to Coast Investigation. Even got a few Females. Feds also rumored to have witnesses to payoffs, done to obtain Disability Approvals. Rumor has it this is just one of the things that have to be done first, before justifying Pension Cuts by Political Leaders. They should prepare to be fucked, Big-Time, including Felony Federal Criminal Charges and IRS Audits. Supposedly it's going to make the NYC Disability Scam Indictments look pale in comparison.
4/02/2014 03:45:00 PM
Let me guess it will happen on "Friday" if this was to happen sorry sport Feds would not let it leak out!
Strong rumor: above poster is in moms basement drinking pabst blue ribbon, mom is making soup for her!
The south side Daley Machine is finally out of our FOP. Angelo you better keep your campaign promises, we will be watching and holding you accountable.
Angelo by 52 percent plus (52.47%).
Check NYPD Disability Pension Scam Indictments
Ban "Gold Braid" Pension Fraud
I heard the same thing about the dicks at 26/cal. be careful...
4/02/2014 03:45:00 PM
Hopefully true, hopefully they fry everyone of them.
So senior is Mike Madigan and Jr is Lisa ???
I'm sure this group will be transparent!!!
eh, to answer Bill Dougherty in his using a newsletter I PAY FOR to attack this blog I would say the following:
Billy, I'm here every day and I read 95% of every post and comments that appear on the blog and I don't recall ever seeing anyone attacking your family but I'm sure there was something there you're likely to assume was meant as such.
In response to your comment approval and factual basis of those comments, understand this bill, THEY ARE THE OPINIONS OF READERS, they aren't legally bound to post only "factual" information regarding anything because this is a public blogging forum, not the state legislature. There are certain rights the citizens have in this country and a pretty huge one is the right to express yourself and your opinion.
What I don't like about your use of my dues money to PUBLICLY POST your rant against the blog is that as my representative it's not your business to attack the membership to which you ONCE were an elected official of. Regardless of the OPINIONS of the people that post here, it's not your place to address them, especially in such a public manner as our newsletter.
And as for your ball licking of McDumbfuck claiming how he would ever "fight for wage increases for us"?
Newsflash dipshit, McShitstick works for the fucking petulant little boy destroying this city, NOT US. He in no way would ever advocate a raise for US and his personal opinion on the matter means absolutely nothing because he's not a negotiator and he doesn't represent us OR the city. He has no say so with city hall and his opinion is worthless to mayor fucktard.
One last note bill, see you on the street soon. Once there your opinions will once again mean nothing and you can no longer cost me dues money to print your own propaganda for reelection.
Check out Bill Dougherty's statement in the April FOP newsletter. He state that SCC is a cancer to the membership.
http://chicagofop.org/newsletter/2014/042014news.pdf
I hope this all goes back to the DALEY Crime Family.
hey Mr Strong Rumor dude!
I am on disability and I say your full of crap! I do not believe it at all and on top of it since when is drinking against the law?
Everyone go the meetings. That sounds productive.
HEY SCC!
I tried to tell you about this about 5 years ago but you basically ripped me and called me a liar!!
You must be hitting the bottle awfully hard. We don't recall ever hearing about this except as a breaking scandal in New York this past year.
How about you cite a post or topic or something where you might be able to substantiate your statement - we're betting you can't.
Our readers may have taken you to task, but we're pretty certain we didn't.
Great news! Congrats Dean. Now you and Ray get in there and kick some ass!
" scum bags!!!! They are killing our pension.
4/02/2014 05:14:00 PM"
You're referring the 150 plus Retired Gold Stars Right?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT, but strong Rumor:
Feds getting ready to indict numerous [over 100] ex- CPD-CFD on Disability Fraud / Theft /and crossing State Lines to Commit Fraud Charges. Undercover investigation shows disabled CPD & CFD golfing at Golf Courses, carrying bags and golf clubs thru Airports, Fishing, Hunting, partying on the Beach and local taverns, drinking, working out at Health Clubs and Gyms, jogging, working on houses, cutting grass, shoveling snow, loading numerous supplies into their cars and trucks at Home Depot type stores, general fucking around with friends, and all sorts of things they're restricted from doing, after claiming Disability, from bad backs, bad hearts, bad circulation, dizzy spells, and numerous other ailments they're currently on Disability for. etc. Indictments coming by summer. Coast to Coast Investigation. Even got a few Females. Feds also rumored to have witnesses to payoffs, done to obtain Disability Approvals. Rumor has it this is just one of the things that have to be done first, before justifying Pension Cuts by Political Leaders. They should prepare to be fucked, Big-Time, including Felony Federal Criminal Charges and IRS Audits. Supposedly it's going to make the NYC Disability Scam Indictments look pale in comparison.
4/02/2014 03:45:00 PM
Probably total bullshit, but it should at least give some people cause to consider their behaviors.
Does this mean I'm not getting my union representative spot.
Rich Aguilar. :-(
Now more than ever before we need to hold FOP officers and reps feet to the fire. Don't think paying your dues is enough....we need to know what's going on.
How are you going to hold their feet to the fire? What complain at the meetings
Ding, Ding! Daugherty's gone! Take Marky Mark with you!
OT but regarding the Park Forest Officer now charged in killing the 95 year old man:I wasn't there and would never second guess the officer, and I do not agree with the State's Attorney bringing charges. But let me say that they were called because the subject was acting up and refusing medical treatment. Be careful when being dispatched to calls like this. It is unfair to expect police to know all aspects of the law, but I would suggest an adult in his/her right mond has the right to refuse medical care. These nursing homes/assisted living center/ hospitals should know this but don't want to be sued; so they pass liability and their responsibilities to us. Just be careful, because now they are saying police should retreat. They were called to handle a situation they could not handle themselves. I hope this copper comes out ok, but I doubt it. These hospital/nursing homes,etc are not our friends. In my opinion, sometimes calls are dispatched that should not be. But in any case, just because they call, does not mean we do their bidding. Be careful out there boys and girls.
Urgent Alert to City Retiree Health Participants - Better call your unions and state legislators!!
While our case is stayed, the City is busily working to legislatively dump the retirees off the healthcare entirely.
Buried within the legislation being proposed is a prohibition on using Retirement Funds’ money to subsidize retiree healthcare. (See Sections 8-174.2 and 11-179.1.)
Although the attached proposed legislation, apparently sponsored by Speaker Madigan, explicitly applies to the Municipal Employees Fund (Article 8) and the Laborers Fund (Article 11), you can be certain the city will be pushing the same changes through Springfield on Police and Fire, as well.
But, there are two other very troubling sections, as well.
First, it explicitly purports to apply to all participants, not just those who start after the date of enactment (Section 1-160(e)).
Second, if the funding enforcement provisions actually get enforced (remember, in the Sklodowski case, we sued to enforce similar required contributions from the State; the appellate court’s favorable ruling that would have cured the problem was reversed by the Illinois Supreme Court) it is explicitly subordinated to the city’s other debts (Sections 8-173.1 and 11-169.1). This provision is probably intended to assure bondholders that they get paid before retirees.
While we are not equipped to do legislative lobbying, you all should start looking for the phone numbers, and start calling your state representatives, state senators, and, of course, your unions and retiree groups, and voice your opposition to this backdoor effort to permanently terminate your healthcare subsidies legislatively.
(Perhaps the City should consider saving money by eliminating front doors from public buildings, since it’s the back doors through which most of the business seems to go. )
Starting right now would not be too soon!
Clint
Clint Krislov
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Civic Opera Building, Suite 1300
20 North Wacker Drive
Chicago, Illinois 60606
Telephone: 312-606-0500
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Website: www.krislovlaw.com
Email: clint@krislovlaw.com
A bunch of detectives are going to be stripped and charged for scamming at 26th street. A year long investigation. 25 detectives involved.
I hear Rahm is happy Dean won.....if that worth anything.
Do the police in this fraternal organization realize you have a bunch of retires running your union and future on this job? Retirees have a place in the union....granted a limited one. The issues we face today on the job are vastly different than most retirees (those retired more than 5 years anyway). God help us....good luck to the newly elected.
Daugherty, couldn't even beat a guy on disability. What a pooch!
Anybody with any time on the job knows some one with a bogus disability. Don't think it won't happen here. This is a way for the administration to embarrass us and build up support from the general public for cutting our pensions. Whole bunch of coppers and fire fighters were recently indicted in New York, with many of them claiming disability from 9-11.
Crybaby Bill! You used this blog to ruin other peoples reputations! Karma is a Bitch! You know who you ruined!
(OT) wow SCC billy Doherty election loser is really mad front page of April 2014 newsletter blames "the spirits of the air" basically for everything but he does not know who SCC is and like Santa Claus who he really was no one really knows, looks like SCC and the "elves" have really gotten to him. But when the SCC newsroom reads the letter hmm the "letter" silly billy if were as diligent sending out the letter that caused shields to be thrown out you may of won the election! Blaming SCC saying the spirits attacked your family! Pathetic billy really pathetic, and a lie! Your character assignation of "the spirits" make you look like you list the game threw away the ball and went home!
Guess billy you weren't the great oz from the wizard of oz, more like the cowardly lion using fop letter to vent, do you really think our readers care about your obstinate opinion? What you say in your letter lets people know that SCC is well read and respected thanks for the free advertising! Now just go away please!
Anonymous said...
OT, but strong Rumor:
Feds getting ready to indict numerous [over 100] ex- CPD-CFD on Disability Fraud / Theft /and crossing State Lines to Commit Fraud Charges. Undercover investigation shows disabled CPD & CFD golfing at Golf Courses, carrying bags and golf clubs thru Airports, Fishing, Hunting, partying on the Beach and local taverns, drinking, working out at Health Clubs and Gyms, jogging, working on houses, cutting grass, shoveling snow, loading numerous supplies into their cars and trucks at Home Depot type stores, general fucking around with friends, and all sorts of things they're restricted from doing, after claiming Disability, from bad backs, bad hearts, bad circulation, dizzy spells, and numerous other ailments they're currently on Disability for. etc. Indictments coming by summer. Coast to Coast Investigation. Even got a few Females. Feds also rumored to have witnesses to payoffs, done to obtain Disability Approvals. Rumor has it this is just one of the things that have to be done first, before justifying Pension Cuts by Political Leaders. They should prepare to be fucked, Big-Time, including Felony Federal Criminal Charges and IRS Audits. Supposedly it's going to make the NYC Disability Scam Indictments look pale in comparison.
4/02/2014 03:45:00 PM
Oh please I hope this is true. I know there are a few cases that are legit, but anyone that has some time on this job have seen the fraud with the fake disability over the years. I would have to say 80-85% are fake and we all know these people. Some even boast about it rubbing it in the face of fellow workers who show up to work every day. These fools go on to live and sometimes work other jobs with no signs of any injury, living like the rest of us honest people. Many are pulling the same shit right now at call back hoping to get the fake disibility someday. Fuck them! Hope they all get nailed.
Bill EX First VP
thaaaaats alllllllllllll folkkkkkkkks
"Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you"
I was right about you and Donahue 9 yrs ago. You are welcome!!!!
Ret Det Wayne Harej Unit 603
PS Burn In Hell
Good Luck to Dean Angelo. He is going to need it. We all need to be more involved. I know it is hard with second jobs, kids, court, spouses working, etc. but as you said SCC, we are in serious straights. We need to at least be more aware of what is happening and at the most more involved. Alone we accomplish nothing. United we can accomplish much.
Is his disability pension suspended during his presidency? If not, he should voluntarily suspend it otherwise he's no different than any other whore...I mean politician
I'm all for screwing over the thiefs that paly a game and get a disability pension, then they go into remodeling jobs for cash, if you really get hurt on this job, and cannot work for real full duty, then ok for pension, but we all know somebody who is scamming the system, go after them, make them pay the money back, indict them whatever, remove them from getting g any more m,oney. Next FUCK THIS GOLD BRAID BILL BULLSHIT, make it like the rest of the non exempts. the best 4 of your last 10, they make enough as an exempt. Take care of those in the trenches.
Bill thanks for the service and best of luck where ever you end up.
Dean congrats on the win, but you really have to step up now. I would like to think the members will support you until you give us a reason not to.
I didn't vote for you but I'll back you %100.
Dean, Con grats but please distance yourself from John Garrido, this guy wants to get into power he will hurt you!. He is not a bright guy at all!!!!!!!!
I think the time is right to begin setting aside some of monies into a political fund which could be used against politicians who obstruct our rights. Just looking at Senate Bill 1922 (proposed amendments) made me want to puke. Time to clean up Springfield. Start with Madigan
An amnesty law is any law that retroactively exempts a select group of people, usually military leaders and government leaders, from criminal liability for crimes committed.
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What crime has an injured officer committed while on disability? The right to have some fun and enjoy life?
FUCK YOUR NONSENSE ASSHOLE!!!
You are just a bitter MAN who got cheated out of promotions because you forced everyone to take you off disabilty. Now you want to bury everyone to make a name for yourself. Burn in hell, Jerkoff!!!
SCC: keep up the good work, mates. SCC blog is a haven of free speech, a unique & safe outlet for Chicago's finest (as wellas fans & trolls).
We'd all agree that there might be some confused souls, a bit of dishonesty & a fair share of craziness ... but geeze, that's the beauty of the First Amendment.
I keep coming back because of the wide variety of opinions. Keeps things interesting & the truth usually sorts itself out. & I always get a laugh or two.
THANKS
Dear Bill Dougherty,
Thanks for the hearty laugh today. I read your newsletter "article" and it just goes to show the membership what an atrocious excuse for a "leader" that you are/were. SCC is a cancer? Ha. Well, you had no problems feeding off the cancer for years. You and your merry band of idiots posted so much bullshit that fact and fiction truly became one for you all. Good riddance. Have fun in a beat car, chump.
If you only knew the real Dean? We are so fucked. I am giving up with this FOP.
Are these disabled officers getting social security disability benefits too? Perhaps this is why the investigation! Greed will always get you!
OT --
CRIME IS DOWN - Woman shot in head on West Side
9:32 p.m. CDT, April 2, 2014
* 900 block of North Pulaski Road about 8:25 p.m, woman approx. 45 yo shot in head, in hospital, serious condition
I am 95 on new sgt list. What did everyone else score
Hope they get merit Sgt DMcg Jr....whose injury wasn't debilitating until AFTER he was merit promoted by Gulliford.....After his years in grade he all of a sudden became disabled.
Anonymous said...
will Dean Angelo bring retirees back into the lodge so they then have to constantly rebargain for benefits they already have in perpetuity?
Dean swears he wants to bring them back into the lodge completely, but what does that cost a member who's already retired?
When you retire you enter into a binding contract with the city until certain time lines are met like reaching medicare age.
If you were a retiree, would you want to have to defend and bargain all over again for the contractual rights you already have and are protected by contract law and the pension clause or do you want to have to constantly pay attention to the bullshit of this job and then have to compete against active members to protect the benefits you're already guaranteed?
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Everything I have been guaranteed in the contract, I am getting. Many things we thought we were going to get but which were NOT written in an agreement or in contract we are not getting and that is our tough luck for not getting it documented.
Retirees are not represented by the FOP, how many times must that be written before the light goes on?
One item in the contract says that I get health insurance until Medicare eligible if I retire at age 60 or beyond. I did and I am getting that. The 55 and out is the only other written agreement regarding health insurance.
Now what else are you talking about that is in the contract supposedly and you are not getting?
I'm doing half the work that I use to do as a rookie. It's not a cut but a decrease in the expected increase of work related activity. Now sleep on that number cruncher.
No more free money for Bill, Aguilar, and Bailey for the police hockey team. Enjoy the beat car, Bill. Now whiney Aguilar can finally shut the f$&@ up and retire, and no one has to hear him either.
It is truly amazing how many disability retired cops are working ARMED security gigs.
I knew Dean 25 years ago. This should be very interesting, probably not good, but interesting.
I'm on disability. I work at Chucky Cheese wearing the big bear costume. Is that fraud. I'm a little nervous.
Congrats Dean just please get rid of Donahue and utilize Tom Mc and find a spot for frank Balestri.. You should be good to go! Reach out to people who will guard and help you! We are the most loyal!
Hey Wayne H-603, You can get back into FoP now after Billy threw you out for calling the thugs out.
You were a worthless dick with not one felony rrest in your tenure and who did not reside in city for 25 years with the cpd but karma got Billy.
Now spend some of your 700K deferred comp and come to a meeting.
You the man now.
your buddy,
R.P
They should prepare to be fucked, Big-Time, including Felony Federal Criminal Charges and IRS Audits. Supposedly it's going to make the NYC Disability Scam Indictments look pale in comparison.
4/02/2014 03:45:00 PM
Complete and utter BULLSHIT. SCC, you know that I know.
Why do people actually spend their time coming up with this fantasy and then typing it out? Don't you have a better use of your time? Loser!
I am 95 on new sgt list. What did everyone else score
4/02/2014 09:54:00 PM
I'm 24 on the list. I heard they are only making 94. Looks like your shit out of luck nerd. Next time notify the DSS not the watch commander dumb fuck.
3:45
bullshit
The election is over!!! It is time to get behind Dean to ensure the betterment of ourselves, and our families. We all need to stand together. The enemy is not the union!
Starting right now would not be too soon!
Clint
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Mr. Krislov,
Thanks for actually taking the time to post this information regarding the illegal pension push going on in springfield at the moment and thanks for pointing out all the hidden legislation that is being used to undermine healthcare for retirees.
But please, you can stop with the "call your legislator" crap now. This is the common call to arms by an entity looking to push blame for a possible loss onto those who are affected by the actions of another.
And I'll let you in on a secret Clint, I contacted both reps to discuss this issue several times. Guess what their answer was? Maybe you guessed it, THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK.
They're gonna do what THEY want to do, they couldn't give two shits what their constituents say regardless of how many call them. They know for a fact there are less of us than everyone else so they know we can be ignored and they'll still get elected, mostly because as a group we also don't give a fuck and will ignore the chance to vote someone out of office. We also don't bother getting our family and friends to vote with us either.
They know all this Clint, which is why they don't give a fuck, which is why they won't bother responding to anyone's call who's against this legislation and which is why they will vote however their true political handlers will tell them to vote because all they give a fuck about is keeping THEIR jobs, not abiding by the state constitution or the laws of this state.
These are the same fuckers that will rewrite a law the next day to erase a law they wrote the day before.
These are the same fuckers who said CHICAGO WILL PAY IT'S PENSION DEBT FROM PROPERTY TAXES and then comes right back and writes a new law that says the majority of the pension bill THEY stole from us will be paid for ON OUR BACKS.
Give it a rest Clint..... don't bother setting yourself up for a loss in court and blaming the members for not calling to notify their reps to vote against it. They're gonna vote FOR it because Madigan TELLS them to vote for it.
It's YOUR job to prove to the supreme court that they've already decided all this shit is against the law and that because of that previous case law they have to strike this shit down.
Get to work man, stop trying to set us up for your failure in court. It's your responsibility to win this action in court with every case law and legal opinion at your disposal to get this law nullified, not ours to waste our time calling a motherfucker who couldn't give a shit about us.
One item in the contract says that I get health insurance until Medicare eligible if I retire at age 60 or beyond. I did and I am getting that. The 55 and out is the only other written agreement regarding health insurance.
Now what else are you talking about that is in the contract supposedly and you are not getting?
4/02/2014 09:58:00 PM
The question is, what is it about letting you back into the union as a full member which means you get CONTRACT VOTING RIGHTS that you don't understand?
Letting retirees back in as a REPRESENTED MEMBER means you are now SUBJECT TO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING ABOUT ISSUES THAT AFFECT YOU AGAIN.
What is your incessant need to be an "active" retired member dude? Live your life and forget this fucking shithole with the confidence of knowing what you have now will be there until your contract is fulfilled.
Why in the hell would you want to once again be represented by a union? Do you know what that even means? it means the city can NOW EFFECTIVELY BARGAIN WITH THE UNION ABOUT ISSUES THAT EFFECT CURRENT RETIREES.
Do you fully comprehend what that actually means, because I doubt it. You seem to act like everything the union bargained for that you now have is permanent and can't be touched somehow yet having the union represent you will just get you more and never touch what you already have.
Open your eyes dude..... you DON'T want fop representation anymore because you honestly DON'T want the city to be able to "bargain" with you any longer,
BARGAINING MEANS YOU CAN LOSE THE BENEFITS YOU ALREADY HAVE, GOT IT?
You want the FOP to go lobby to get your 2 percent knocked down to zero? Guess what man, what if the city says fuck you it's gonna go up to 6 percent and the issue goes to arbitration? Guess what happens then, your fucking insurance premium THAT YOU WILLINGLY RETIRED WITH AT 2 PERCENT JUST GOT UPPED TO 4 PERCENT.
All because you just HAD to get your ass back into the union and thinking it could only benefit you as a retiree when in fact it has the exact effect Emanuel wants, and that is TO GET RETIREES BACK INTO A POSITION WHERE THEY CAN BE BARGAINED WITH FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
That gives him the chance to fuck you every time theres a contract. I shouldn't have to tell you you don't want to be in that position.
You do NOT want to open yourself up to bargaining all over again, got it?
And you most CERTAINLY do not want to have to be pitted against active members for benefits you already have.
As I said, the real question is, what don't YOU understand about Emanuel's strategy of divide and conquer?
Emanuel WANTS retirees back in a bargaining position sir..... and only an idiot who's already out of the fucking game would want back in.
Stay retired, and keep what you have by law. Don't be a fool and demand back in because I for one do not want to have to live by the threat of bargaining every god damn time there's another contract coming up.
I fully intended to leave this fucking shithole behind and ignore the fuck out of Chicago when I left. Please, don't make me have to worry the rest of my life that some kid with 2 fucking years on the job couldn't care less how much he pays for insurance when he retires or how much his pension check is. I've already fought that battle, and it's protected by law.
Don't force ME back into the bullshit and have to live out the rest of my life under the threats of a petty tyrant looking to fuck me out of a pension and the healthcare I'm ALREADY guaranteed until I hit medicare age.
Other than that, there is nothing about the chicago police department that affects you anymore..... you have no business getting involved in any of that shit other than the following:
Annual golf tournament
Public outings
That's it. If you want your own representative down in springfield I suggest you form a coalition and send your dues money over to that entity to pay them to lobby on your behalf. Your money would be better spent.
Anonymous said...
will Dean Angelo bring retirees back into the lodge so they then have to constantly rebargain for benefits they already have in perpetuity?
Dean swears he wants to bring them back into the lodge completely, but what does that cost a member who's already retired?
When you retire you enter into a binding contract with the city until certain time lines are met like reaching medicare age.
If you were a retiree, would you want to have to defend and bargain all over again for the contractual rights you already have and are protected by contract law and the pension clause or do you want to have to constantly pay attention to the bullshit of this job and then have to compete against active members to protect the benefits you're already guaranteed?
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What on earth are you talking about? None of your bullshit post makes the slightest sense.
I am on Disability for a legitimate accident. I am constantly seeing my Doctor. You do not want to know all the meds that I have to take on a daily basis just to keep me moving. Once in awhile I may have good day. Does that make me a cheater the rest of the time i am miserable. I do not have another job. I would give anything to be back to normal. I miss all the guys on the job. I am not pulling a bullshit scam and not I am not in a wheelchair put I am in plenty of pain that you may not see just passing by me. So please do not call all of Criminals....
Billy, I'm here every day and I read 95% of every post and comments that appear on the blog and I don't recall ever seeing anyone attacking your family but I'm sure there was something there you're likely to assume was meant as such.
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You can make you point without telling everyone how pathetic your life is.
Fed rumor is true. The academy is scrambling to find classrooms to use cause the city is going to offer some amnesty to a most of them. Gonna have about 80 retreads at one time compared to around 4 at a time. Deputy is going to make them all wear their sweats. Ok...that last part is not true...but should.
4/02/2014 04:34:00 PM
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Complete hoseshit. If the City doctors put officers off the job and the pension board doctors affirmed that was appropriate - there is no case against the officer. It was not her or his choice. You do not have to be bed-ridden or in a long term care facility to be disabled. Get your head out of your ass. Disabled officers are allowed to have a life after being put off and placed on disability.
Anonymous said...
Are these disabled officers getting social security disability benefits too? Perhaps this is why the investigation! Greed will always get you!
4/02/2014 09:44:00 PM
If they are,that could be a problem. The guys in New York were charged with the SS benefits by the feds, not their NYPD benefits fraud.
Anonymous said...
will Dean Angelo bring retirees back into the lodge so they then have to constantly rebargain for benefits they already have in perpetuity?
Dean swears he wants to bring them back into the lodge completely, but what does that cost a member who's already retired?
It should cost him the yearly dues for the years he has been retired and hasn't been a member of FOP. I have been retired 8 years and have paid my retired po dues every year.
The question is If a po has been retired and hasn't paid his dues or wanted to be a dues paying retiree, why does he want to now. He has had that opportunity since the day he retired.
As a retiree, I am an active member, of the FOP. I am not a member, of the bargaining unit. I am a full member of the FOP, which is a fraternal organization, not a union. The FOP, does not bargain for, or represent retires, in any manner. You must be a new guy.
Anonymous said...
A bunch of detectives are going to be stripped and charged for scamming at 26th street. A year long investigation. 25 detectives involved.
Not happening.
And as for your ball licking of McDumbfuck claiming how he would ever "fight for wage increases for us"?
Newsflash dipshit, McShitstick works for the fucking petulant little boy destroying this city, NOT US. He in no way would ever advocate a raise for US and his personal opinion on the matter means absolutely nothing because he's not a negotiator and he doesn't represent us OR the city. He has no say so with city hall and his opinion is worthless to mayor fucktard.
Agree in a sense with what you say,but you are wrong about one thing.
A superintendent would always ask for a raise for his men because it would add to morale and make him popular. He would always request more po's as that would make his job easier.
The problem is as you pointed out, he has no say in the negotiations or the amount of manpower. That is up to the mayor. He is the one with the budget.
The supt would be thrilled if the mayor said you are getting 1,000 additional officers and I am recommending a 20% raise over the next 4 years. That isnt going to happen, but to think the supt wouldnt welcome that, is being naive and unfair.
Lots of rumors.
It is sad and pisses me off when this new FOP president is on disability for 10 years and my late partner suffers a heart attack but comes back to work with stents in his chest, albeit an office job, but was also outside working safe schools, some special employment and side jobs and ends up with the big one taking him to eternal furlo. It was his choice to work to support his family, but the department and the pension board should take a bigger look at what disabled means and what injuries or health issues should be considered for disability, not in some cases having connected attorneys as did a disgraced former command staff's son did. The son was caught thru his own greed, political connection and stupidity.
The Illinois Supreme Court? Depend on them? You have to be kidding.
Just wondering I took the sergeants exam and did well. I'm assigned to a unit that the rumor is will be disbanded in September. I want to know if the super bids will help me with my position on the list. I never wear a crown cap, but the gold shield and gold braid would accent my cheekbones and eyes.
OK fantasy reader - we definitely don't remember any of that. And if you're too lazy to go look it up, we imagine it doesn't exist and you're engaging in some DT fantasy from years ago. We're sorry you fell off the wagon, but if this is what you come up with, we applaud our imaginary selves for shutting you down years ago. Keep on dreaming pal.
Regarding disability scammers: Do an investigation, and where possible bring criminal charges if supported by evidence. Fuck them. Do not let them come back. no amnesty. Jail time for fraud. Make them pay back the money. I fucking hate medical abusers. They make life hard on the rest of us in many ways.
I now guys who say they can't sit in a car, but they can water ski. Can't be a part of the CFD, but can remodel houses, carry drywall, build garages and finish concrete. I know its about breathing in the bad shit, lung problems, heart problems. So put on a good mask and inspect places. Go be officer or fireman friendly. Answer phones. Fucking bullshit. .
To the unpublished asshat:
You have a life, yet here you are time and again spew insults and trying to make up for an obviously unfulfilled personal life. Did your rubber woman spring a leak again?
Again, the conversation you imagine never happened. IT WAS A FANTASY, probably in one of your drunken stupors or a by product of the D.T's after a bad night.
Take your childish insults somewhere else and play in traffic son. You're obviously a troll with nothing to offer to the conversation, imagined or not.
Sticks and stones, yada yada yada. Asshat.
The poster, knocking Mr Krislov, is one of the reasons that the City thinks it can steal from us. Call your state reps, as Mr Krislov suggests. To roll over and do nothing, is to give in to Rahm.
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