Another $100 Million?
For a library that doesn't exist yet, hasn't even been awarded as a construction project:
- An Illinois state House panel on Thursday advanced a plan championed by Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan, D-Chicago, to appropriate $100 million in state funds to help finance the construction of President Barack Obama’s presidential library and museum in Chicago.
The panel voted unanimously after a hearing in Chicago where rival institutions angling for the facility all agreed it should be in the city; just where is the point of disagreement.
The measure now advances to the floor of the state House. Madigan spokesman Steve Brown said “there is no firm plan to advance this bill immediately.”
While there have been some objections over the cash-strapped state of Illinois putting money toward an Obama library since Madigan announced his $100 million plan, no one testified against the state spending.
A state billions of dollars in debt and full of morons who can't wait to deify a president who, quite frankly, hasn't done much for Illinois in particular and Chicago specifically.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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Our Illinois politicians are the Beasts of the Beasts...they walk on us and beat us and steal from us and still IDIOTS vote for them. What does it take for Voters to change their rotten ways?? DUMP the DEMOCRATS.
It's for the children!
Old proverb: don't count your chickens before they are hatched. O was allegedly born in Hawaii, and we know he was mostly raised there. What if the great man decides his library will be in Hawaii? Will Illinois politicians have egg on their face? Why are liberals so ignorant, stupid, and/or blind?
Since becoming president, except for fund raising, how much time has O spent in Chicago, Cook Co. or Illinois? O spends more time in Hawaii than he does at his alleged home in Chicago.
I have been to Hawaii a couple of times. Given a choice I would rather be in Hawaii than Chicago.
Ehhh, when you're already BILLIONS of dollars in debt, what's another measly $100 million? Quinn's good for it!
Put the $100 m in our pensions and just post his postcards from Hawaii in the windows at the walgreens in Hyde park. Once he's done he making b-line to the 50th state. We will still have the one man detail guarding his house on edge of war zone. Partner from VRI was amazed at how close his house was to our "box". Can't make this shit up. This city, county, and state should be sitcom on hulu+
So it was more important to attend a meeting that will COST the taxpayers a hundred million dollars than to attend a meeting that would BRING Chicago casinos, and millions of dollars, to save pensions.
"Another $100 Million?"
SCC Said:
"A (Failing) state billions of dollars in debt and full of morons who can't wait to deify a (Piss-Poor) president who, quite frankly, hasn't done (Much of Shit) for Illinois in particular and Chicago specifically."
Remember the assholes joyfully whipping bricks and bottles at The Police on Election Night 2008?
"WHOOOOOO! WE PUT US A PRESIDENT IN DA WITE HOUSE AN' Y'ALL BITCH-ASS PO-LEECE WORKS FOR US NOW! HAAAA-HAAAH! Fuck y'all an' y'all pension! We runnin' thangs now! We gonna get a big bonus on our LINK cards an' y'all ain't gettin' shit!" Etc... Ad Nauseum et Ad Infinitum...
Well... Six years later and it turns out that the cackling hyenas and brick/bottle flingers were right.
The Police not only didn't get shit, but they were walked backwards while the non contributing Catered To Constituents haven't lost any sleep and don't have a hair out of place.
Funny... Rahm and Rauner don't have the balls to threaten these mutts with curtailment of the benefits they don't work for but shit all over Policemen who engage these, ungovernable, destructive, hard head, iron-legged, in love with death m/fers who reject everything the majority of polite society stands for and considers acceptable.
"We ain't crazy! Y'all is!"
Meanwhile, Rahm keeps getting his financial freak on to the tune of a $7+ Million campaign war chest and weekly announcements of multiple million dollar "projects" just to rub our noses in it regarding all the money the city is actually sitting on while crying tears of a whore about "Pension reform first."
Who laughs when we're reduced to wearing Coolie Hats, Black Pajamas, flip-flops and running around with a rifle and a 10 pound sack of rice and setting off satchel charges?
Remember... Government is no longer representative of the people.
Corporate money conjurers have the government they always wanted.
The tax paying citizen has been pushed aside.
How ugly is it going to get when the REAL shooting starts?
Hey about fixing our pension problems first!
The Chicago Way at it's very very worst.
No public funds were used for either the Clinton or Bush presidential libraries. Why does Obama need 100 million in public dollars for his library? Anyone want to take any bets on whether O settles down in Chicago after 2016? Illinois is broke and deep in debt. Can the state afford to spend 100 million on a presidential library?
A concerned citizen
what is needed is a massive
witness slip blitz.
as well as a petition against it.
Classic. Barry has already said he is not moving back until the youngest graduates from HS which is in 2018 or so?
He will then move to Hawaii... we are a fly over state. Nothing more.
Will they have books there?
Obama's presidential library will contain works of fiction.
$100 million of OUR tax dollars. These pandering democrats are pathetic, Madigan in particular.
All his per President records are either sealed or made up. What will they put in the library? The real reason Illinois wants it is the Big Time 'Kick Backs.
With all the Koolaid drinkers out there the library would be 'to big to fail' or in Chicago terms an unending cash cow. Can you say cost over runs? Why not put it in Indonesia, he grew up there too?
Not enough people in Hawaii are going to see it. are you going to bother when you spend thousands to vacation there? Doubt it.
We are stuck with this carpet baggers white elephant and the bill.
I thought we had no money and are getting ready to make the temporary tax hike permanent?
"The government is no longer representative of the people"
How true.
They just keep spending the taxpayers money.
None of these f-ers know how to cut or budget anything.
Remember this come election time.
Yea, and let's put it near the prez's ghetto neighborhood so NOBODY but fools will go near it.
Drinks for all my friends! It's on me! Screamed the guy with the lamp shade on his head, and the water soaking his pants, on the deck of the Titanic.
"What does it take for Voters to change their rotten ways?? DUMP the DEMOCRATS."
Having a few Republican candidates on the ballot to oppose the Democrat incumbents might help.
Comments keep faulting the voters for returning the Democrats to office in every election, but it is hard to defeat candidates who are running unopposed in the general election.
$100 million could solve a lot of other problems in Illinois....maybe throw it in the pension funds???
So let me see if I have this straight.
The State is broke.
We are going to spend $100 Million we don't have.
On a President nobody likes.
Madigan has lost his fucking mind.
OT - SCC thank you for all of your continuing coverage of Rahm, TIF's, and taxes, especially yesterday.
Appreciate it.
"In accepting hefty taxpayer dollars for this venture, President Barack Obama is setting himself apart from his recent predecessors, former presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.
Clinton's library, located in Little Rock, Ark., was funded solely through private donations, according to the Clinton Foundation. Clinton's '$165 million facility was built entirely through private funds...in public record...it's just a fact,' said Jordan Johnson, a spokesman for the Clinton Foundation.
Likewise, Bush's library, located at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, was also funded through private donations."
-Illinois Policy Institute, April 17, 2014
http://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-house-committee-wants-taxpayers-to-pay-100-million-for-obama-library/
Im mortified.
The politicians are doing it right infront of our faces. Votes are fixed anyway. When is the raiding of city hall by the tax payers that have been robbed going to happen? Lets set a date! Lets do this already!!!!!! What are we waiting for?!?! Im not a LEO but as a citizen im very nervous when governmnt officials break laws to make it work in their favor. If they will disregard laws regarding pensions, what other laws will they break and change whenever they feel like it?
Illinois Kangaroo Kourt.
"..Posted by Barton Lorimor (@bartonlorimor)
* The set-up (pun intended)…
Illinois State House members are advancing a bill that would devote $100 million toward a Barack Obama presidential library. The House Executive Committee meeting in Chicago today voted, by an official tally of 9-0, to authorize using state money for the library…Nine representatives were recorded as voting for the bill, even though there were five lawmakers in attendance at the hearing. That is because Rep. Bob Rita (D-Blue Island), who chairs the Executive Committee, employed a procedural move.
Rita used the attendance record from a previous hearing that occurred Wednesday as the vote for the presidential library cash. House Speaker Michael Madigan, who sat in on today’s hearing, clarified Rita’s maneuver, saying the attendance would serve as nine votes in favor of the library, even though the previous committee hearing was on a possible Chicago casino and not related to a presidential library.
No Republicans attended Thursday’s hearing on the presidential library..."
http://capitolfax.com/2014/04/18/lesson-learned-dont-leave/
Put it in Hawaii.
I personally think that Obama envisions himself when he retires as the second coming of Nelson Mandela. The publically paid for library is going to be his castle where the world will come to seek his advise. I have always been of the belief that Rahm's resignation as Chief of Staff to become mayor was nothing but a con cooked up by Obama and Rahm to finance this boondoggle on the backs of Illinois taxpayers. These guys are both ends of the same turd. $100 million would be better spent toward the pension shortfall.
How about building it on the sludge pits along I55 in the western suburbs. It stinks as much as Obummer.
The game of playing the two political parties against each other is wearing thin.
People are wising up to this divide and concur strategy.
A strategy that has worked so well and in so many other places around the world to stir unrest, to start wars and is being replayed right here.
When the republican vs democrat finger pointing no longer works it's on to the poor vs the middle class.
While that is being stirred then pull out the racist card and play that. Then the gay rights card. The women's rights card, etc..
Divide the citizens and keep them fighting each other as that protects the current leadership position on top of the Maslow pyramid.
When was the last time you saw these people trying to unite the country?
Constantly pointing out our differences you see no-onoe pointing out our similarities
Republican's and Democrats are bought and paid by the corporate elite. They cater to the money that put them in office and that money is wall street and corporate CEO's.
We have no freedoms.
Everything is considered a privileged. I challenge y'all to come up with one g-damn thing that isn't regulated and controlled...enforced by picking and choosing at will who has to abide by the laws and who does not. We are concerned for your safety bullshit used as a tool of repression.
Many don't play that game no more.
They, the reps and dems, shoved the 66% state income tax increase up our ass. Then they shoved the Obamacare TAX up our ass.
That's just the tip and they want more. Property tax increases, City income tax talk. It really needs to end.
How about putting the lawmakers and politicians that ran off with the pension funds enriching their friends in the process. Stop blaming/demonizing the unions.
They take turn playing good cop bad cop.
Here, let's put a thing in this next that we know will never pass but it's used as tossing a bone to the other party to take back out of the bill and play savior.
Next time it's the other sides turn in the barrel to create an illusion that they are here representing us the average joe.
Pensions AND Social Security was all a lie the money stolen and handed out to political friends. Just another tax.
Even the food stamp benefits have been cut recently. First they knock off about 10% at the top. Then they announce a shift in the days of the month in which the benefits will be paid. A month of food stamp benefits now has to last for 33, 34 days so they can claim no-no, benefits haven't been cut see..the check is the same. heh. the bullshit is juvenile
After two terms of Bush. Two terms of Obama etc it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that just putting the other party in office is gonna fix it.
Since becoming president, except for fund raising, how much time has O spent in Chicago, Cook Co. or Illinois? O spends more time in Hawaii than he does at his alleged home in Chicago.
I have been to Hawaii a couple of times. Given a choice I would rather be in Hawaii than Chicago.
4/18/2014 12:35:00 AM
And I'm sure the Obama Presidential Library would prefer the nice balmy breezes of Hawaii, too.
WARNING -- ACTUAL OBAMA LIBRARY COSTS COULD BE HALF A BILLION DOLLARS
WBBM Radio reported early this morning that Speaker Mike Madigan is holding out $100 million merely as bait to attract the library.
They reported that Madigan said that the actual cost of building the library could be $500 million or more, and that additional state funding might be provided later -- once it's too late for us.
It's a whole little Olympics! Rich opportunities for 5X - 10X cost overruns, theft, swindles, graft, and connivance, all wrapped into one building.
Maybe we can have a teenaged gang member design the structure. Maybe Vanecko Sewer Cleaning And Construction will get the contract.
Bend over. Here comes the Obama Library.
...and here comes another Great CTA Project. 16-20 or more occupied residential and business buildings to be torn down for another "flyover."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-cta-16-buildings-need-to-be-razed-to-speed-up-red-brown-purple-lines-20140417,0,5110741.story
One of these is a 14-unit condo, only 7 years old. Even Todd and Buffy aren't safe anymore -- not even in the heart of town.
As the Japanese soldiers used to shriek from the jungle darkness, so too does government fix its bayonets and bang on tin cans, blow bugles and ready satchel charges to hurl upon the taxpayers --
"AIEEE! HEY, YANKEE!
"WE YOU COMING TO GET!
I like how you think that the state will somehow pull their head out of their collective asses and fix your pension woes and fully fund them when they're focused on doing things like this.
BCP speculates --
"How ugly is it going to get when the REAL shooting starts?"
4/18/2014 01:00:00 AM
We full of holes already, yo.
"One lawyer with a pen can steal more than a hundred men with guns."
To wit --
"[Goldman Sachs'] unprecedented reach and power have enabled it to turn all of America into a giant pump-and-dump scam, manipulating whole economic sectors for years at a time, moving the dice game as this or that market collapses, and all the time gorging itself on the unseen costs that are breaking families everywhere — high gas prices, rising consumer credit rates, half-eaten pension funds, mass layoffs, future taxes to pay off bailouts.
"All that money that you're losing, it's going somewhere, and in both a literal and a figurative sense, Goldman Sachs is where it's going: The bank is a huge, highly sophisticated engine for converting the useful, deployed wealth of society into the least useful, most wasteful and insoluble substance on Earth — pure profit for rich individuals."
-- Matt Taibbi
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405
"No public funds were used for either the Clinton or Bush presidential libraries."
4/18/2014 02:30:00 AM
That's because there was no Chicago Connection involved.
"Why does Obama need 100 million in public dollars for his library?"
Because dat's da way dey do t'ings here.
"Anyone want to take any bets on whether O settles down in Chicago after 2016?"
Michelle Obama has already stated that they very well may not return here.
"Illinois is broke and deep in debt. Can the state afford to spend 100 million on a presidential library?"
Make that HALF A BILLION DOLLARS OR MORE, as WBBM radio reported that Mike Madigan just said. The $100 mil is just bait to get it here -- like scattering corn and leavin salt blocks in the woods for deer.
"A concerned citizen."
Whose goose is getting cooked real fast, huh?
Here you see the workings of the Combine, the Apparatus -- listen to the all-these-people-know-each-other cards flip as the great Rolodex Of Evil turns...
No one even uses librarys anymore except the homeless piss bums. Another waste of $ not surprised
What better place to build a monument to a failure than the south side of Chicago.... Ironies abound.
And now R A h M wants to bring the Star Wars George Lucas Museum to Chgo, Lucas listed net worth $4.9 BILLION, wonder how much R A h M will want the broke City to kick in considering this guy Lucas has no real ties to the City
65th and Blackstone sounds like a great place to draw tourist in. Maybe out in the Austin?
This makes me want to fucking puke. Like smelling three day old fish left outside in 90 degree weather. Only difference is I can't run away from this.
All Obama's multimillionaire one percenter friends in the Hollywood film industry, the music industry, television and sports could ante up 100 million in a second. Just 100 giving a million each is nothing. Diddy is worth $700 million, look at the new listing of black artists net worth.
Libraries are funded privately.
Rumor has it obummer's "people" want 500 mil for a library.It may take that much to completely outline his malfeasance.
Who laughs when we're reduced to wearing Coolie Hats, Black Pajamas, flip-flops and running around with a rifle and a 10 pound sack of rice and setting off satchel charges?......It worked for the vc.
Any opposition to $100M of state money for this library is ray-suss #fact
Ob's library should be the size of an "outhouse" in Hawaii
When it comes to wasting money on B.S. which isn't necessary, Illinois is second to none.
Just think: how much of the pension obligation would be eliminated if they re-directed this money to the current pension underfunding crisis?
Retired Ol' Sixgun Sarge
Now seriously, why would we need a "Library" for Obama? The son-of-a-bitch won't release any of his friggen papers so there'd be nothing to be put in it.
So the truth is that all one would really need to *honor him* is something like a glorified gift shop with postcards of him, some ashtrays, autographed sex toys (a Dem pol staple), and maybe a life sized wax dummy to get your pic snapped with.
I'm suuuure there's plenty of empty rental space in his old stomping grounds of...Boystown -- and they'd be pleased as punch to have it there at no cost to taxpayers.
Its just sickening. The state,county, city, and towns cry broke every chance they get. And people believe this.
Just think how many millions are collected daily in sales taxes, fees, and fines. Every purchase you and everyone makes is taxed. Every service and business is taxed. Yeah they are broke. Broke from spending it all on stupid shit.
Go visit a casino. Let me know how much money you see flowing around there. These towns and state all have their claims on that money too.
Bad priorities and poor management is what is wrong.
He could be the first president with a virtual online library, special exhibit for his birth certificate and college transcripts!
I don't know why he would need a library when most of the people that voted for him can't even read
"Go visit a casino. Let me know how much money you see flowing around there."
4/18/2014 02:51:00 PM
...and flowing which way?
Financial writer Matt Taibbi said on "Chicago Tonight" recently that casinos operate by creating losers.
D'oh.
...and the money raised will often go for "projects" that are either merely useless or actively harmful.
"In accepting hefty taxpayer dollars for this venture, President Barack Obama is setting himself apart from his recent predecessors, former presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.
Clinton's library, located in Little Rock, Ark., was funded solely through private donations, according to the Clinton Foundation. Clinton's '$165 million facility was built entirely through private funds...in public record...it's just a fact,' said Jordan Johnson, a spokesman for the Clinton Foundation.
Likewise, Bush's library, located at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, was also funded through private donations."
-Illinois Policy Institute, April 17, 2014
http://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-house-committee-wants-taxpayers-to-pay-100-million-for-obama-library/
4/18/2014 08:31:00 AM
Has Obama actually accepted any taxpayer monies for his library?
Just because the asinine Illinois house committee approved spending that much money (if Obama chooses Illinois for his library at all) doesn't mean he will accept the money. Chances are far stronger Rahms Hollywood mafia will donate all that's needed to build the thing. WHEREVER it eventually gets built.
CHICAGO TRIBUNE REPORTS -- OBAMA LIBRARY COULD COST $500 MILLION OR MORE
12:24 p.m. CDT, April 17, 2014
"An Illinois House committee endorsed a plan today to contribute $100 million in state funds toward construction of a Barack Obama presidential library in Chicago.
"The proposal, pushed by House Speaker Michael Madigan, goes to the full House next.
"Madigan said it's appropriate for Illinois to commit public funds for the library even though the state is grappling with serious financial problems.
“It's clearly a good investment for the future.”
"Building the library and museum could cost $500 million or more. Madigan would not rule out additional state money going toward the library project down the road, though he said he's "hopeful that the size of this appropriation would prove to be a very attractive argument to the (presidential library) committee."
Like I said -- the "$100 million" figure is just the cost of the bait.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-house-committee-oks-100-million-for-obama-library-20140417,0,1319032.story
Obama's sole interest in Chicago, Illinois was political opportunism. He was aware of the fact that African Americans had been elected from the 1st Congressional District non-stop since the US Representative was a Republican. I think that his presidential run was pure egotism and, with a complicit media, he surprised everyone, himself included, by pulling it off. He spent his entire first term campaigning for reelection. So, thanks very much Chicago, you served your purpose. I doubt that Obama really wants to live here any longer. As such, let some other site host his library.
Lets use the 'Elected Offical and Judical' pension fund for this. It will be such a hot ticket they will get all their money back in the first few weeks, right?
As for location, CSU! alongside the Lucas Museum. A fantasy area that will allow 'progressives' to have their wealth redistributed and lets them test drive Obamacare at the same time!
$100.00 million on his library. Let Hawaii build the library and the state of Illinois can spend the money on a new much larger Cook County prison. Priorities are lost. Like there is no major crime epidemic so lets build a library. With all due respect to our commander in chief please do not allow your library to be built in Chicago. We need a new much larger Cook County prison.
There will no books there, only TELEPROMPTER S, Too much trouble to hold a book up to read.
"A state billions of dollars in debt and full of morons who can't wait to deify a president who, quite frankly, hasn't done much for Illinois in particular and Chicago specifically."
He's helped enrich the already rich Illinois dems...just like Maggot Daley Park, this will be built here, like it or not.
Another waste of money and another burden in order to pay homage to an incompetent bureaucrat.
Better to put another runway in at O''Hare and name in Obama-Left after all the trips Barry and the family took on Air Force One.
That would be a more fitting tribute and actually some help in developing and maintaining economic development.
This is from a Pension Review white paper:
"For the policemen’s and firemen’s annuity funds, the 2010 reforms went even further. For these two funds alone, the City of Chicago abandoned its “multi- plier” financing method and instead was required to adhere to an annual funding requirement that would result in a 90% funding ratio by the year 2040. This requirement goes into effect in 2015. The City was granted permission to levy a tax in order to fund this payment. If the City fails to meet this requirement in any year, the State has permission to redirect grant funds for the City directly into the pension funds."
Read that bottom sentence again, 'If the City fails to meet this requirement in any year, the State has permission to redirect grant funds for the City directly into the pension funds.' So this is why Rahm needs the reforms! If he doesn't get reform, we keep our current pension benefits, and it gets funded from all the grants the city gets! Oh no, Rahm won't be able to build more luxury schools and parks, or more bike paths! I say, let it happen!
Just another Communist Scam, in a Communist City. Pay Up, Sheeple..
Obama's sole interest in Chicago, Illinois was political opportunism. He was aware of the fact that African Americans had been elected from the 1st Congressional District non-stop since the US Representative was a Republican. I think that his presidential run was pure egotism and, with a complicit media, he surprised everyone, himself included, by pulling it off. He spent his entire first term campaigning for reelection. So, thanks very much Chicago, you served your purpose. I doubt that Obama really wants to live here any longer. As such, let some other site host his library.
4/18/2014 05:42:00 PM
You are definitely on to something there, but Barack is neither smart enough or slick enough to pull that off. He is nothing but a bird dog set out by smarter and more conniving men.
Maybe he knows it, probably doesn't care or process it quiet right in his narcissistic world.
Bottom line is we are a weaker Nation than we were six years ago. We cannot continue down this path. The world needs a leader with this Country's ideals. Stop pushing the one world idea. We are a long way off from that utopia.
I think we would be better off with our race relations today if we hadn't pushed so hard and let the charlatans take advantage. Had we let it happen at it's own pace in this country I really doubt we would have the division we have today.
Illinois Budget Deficit Will Grow Despite Pension Reform
Commercial Club of Chicago Chimes In on $100M for ObamaLibrary
Build the library in the form of a computer server. Save some money. In the future all bullshit will be on line anyway.....oh ya, he is giving the internet to the UN.
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