Detectives Schooled - And We Learn, Too
A Sun Times article about new training that all detectives must go through. If you're interested, here's the link to the article.
But buried in the article are a few tidbits that caught our attention:
But buried in the article are a few tidbits that caught our attention:
- Under a law that went into effect in 2012, police agencies in Illinois must put their lead homicide investigators through 32 hours of such training.
But Chicago Police Department officials went further. They expanded their program to include every detective, whether they primarily handle burglaries, sex crimes or murders. The program started in October at the police academy on the West Side. Nearly 1,000 detectives will eventually complete the training.
1,000 detectives? Or nearly? Is there a class going through soon? Or are they counting supervisors as detectives this time? Also, this interesting item:
- When the detectives are state-certified as lead homicide investigators at the end of the course, they will be able to handle tasks now assigned only to evidence technicians.
That includes collecting DNA evidence by swabbing a consenting suspect’s mouth; conducting gunshot-residue tests, and shooting evidentiary photos of people placed in line-ups.
Evidence technicians will still do most of that work. But the detectives won’t have to wait for techs when they’re unavailable, saving time.
Some comments the other day stated that the D3, D2A and D2 demotion order was mainly to counter a lawsuit by Shortshanks bodyguards who weren't held over in the new 9.5 regime. But the fact that the Department is allowing/training detectives in ET jobs makes us wonder what exactly the Department is phasing out and how they are going to go about it.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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CSI CHICAGO.
Can I order an ET for this location? No
•When the detectives are state-certified as lead homicide investigators at the end of the course, they will be able to handle tasks now assigned only to evidence technicians.
That includes collecting DNA evidence by swabbing a consenting suspect’s mouth; conducting gunshot-residue tests, and shooting evidentiary photos of people placed in line-ups.
PER Detective Div SOP they are supposed to do that now. ET's still handle a lot of other things, and will ride on those jobs when they are available. However, when 3rd watch ET's are running 8 bodies (furlo's and RDO)for the entire city, the Detectives can handle the mundane and otherwise easy jobs such as bucal swabs, GSRs and lineup photos.
Duhhhh....keep bringing in contact cards, parkers, and curfews, duhhhhhhh.........that will show dem we mean buisness.....duhhhhhh!!!!
Tons of dead weight merit hacks clouted darlings and fools in area central.
Well, I can see the dicks demanding D3 pay shortly. As a consequence I'll start receiving D4 to supervise these chuckleheads!!! It's a win-win for everyone!
I was already certified and have my certification that doesn't expire until 2016, so why the fuck do I have to go back to this stupid class?????? Yep, because they want to train us to do ET and CRIME LAB jobs....
The two guys who teach the part of the training that covers interviews of suspects in custody are Lt Dennis Walsh and Sgt Sam Cerone. That's not a joke either, ask anyone who has taken the course. LOL
So, E.T.'s are getting fazed out???
There are almost no ETs or mobile Crime Lab people left. Every time I order one they say it's going to be a while. I talked to one guy who said that they are about 35% manpower.
To me it sounds like they are really phasing out there job. The chances of promotions are slim.
Good luck getting Forensic Evidence with little or no man power at the Mobile Crime Lab. They should just sell the trucks, so they could be retired like the manpower that drove them.
Loved the job and now happily retired ;)
The mayor moves in devious and mysterious ways. CPD Officers are living in exciting times.
Area Central is losing 7 detectives to the 26th/cal court scandal. All are from Homicide and Shooting teams
A lot of what ETs do can be done by others. However, we all know this is just one more way to keep the personnel numbers down.
great class ..... Y-A-W-N
Scc, We, Detectives, were trained over a year ago to take our own DNA swaps and line up photos due to a shortage or a long wait time for an et. This is nothing new.
Aren't there only like 5 evidence technicians in the entire state of Chicago?
No comment about the contact card order, SCC?
Well, I can see the dicks demanding D3 pay shortly. As a consequence I'll start receiving D4 to supervise these chuckleheads!!! It's a win-win for everyone!
4/07/2014 12:50:00 AM
We don't need you supervising us. We're smarter than you are.
Area Central is losing 7 detectives to the 26th/cal court scandal. All are from Homicide and Shooting teams
4/07/2014 04:32:00 AM
Yeah sure. Get off your mom's computer.
Mr. SouthSide said...
A lot of what ETs do can be done by others. However, we all know this is just one more way to keep the personnel numbers down.
4/07/2014 04:34:00 AM
Everything that everyone does can be done by others. Civilians, illegal aliens, unemployed textile workers, you name it, someone else can do it. So what?
Chuckleheads Sarge? You are a "Supervisor" on a department where 1/3 of supervisors are given their job because of the color of their skin, the size of their bra, or their political/family bloodline. Most of the rest, certainly not all, passed a test and wouldn't know police work if it slapped em in the face. Stay out of my crime scene.
I liked it better when ET's were in the district and assigned to the watch. All you had to do was go wake them up - and they came over and processed the scene ! Ya they were all crabby - but system worked.
City can't make D1 do it bec they file a grievance and win.
The dicks are already authorized to administer bucal swab collection tests, and photo line-ups. Some were actually trained already. It takes about 5 minutes to learn to administer a GSR test, which gets thrown out of court everytime anyway.
Have the detectives print the bodies too and inventory the bloody clothes.
The two guys who teach the part of the training that covers interviews of suspects in custody are Lt Dennis Walsh and Sgt Sam Cerone.
Who's gonna teach them? What a joke.
On the bright side after the city paid out a lawsuit and changed the SO on contact cards, the bosses will have to stop hammering home the idea of contact carding everyone just so the "numbers" look better.
Naw, don't sell the trucks. Just park them in that lot at 31st and
Sacramento, behind the County Jail.
Hell, the city paid good money for
those trucks and can't give them away at a loss. Can you imagine the dope boys buying them, repainting them and removing the lights and sirens
and using them as "warming vans" while working their shifts.
What scandal involving Area Central?
phase out, no
give some of their responsibilities to the d unit to make things more efficient, yes
ET's will be phased out.
Nobody will collect prints for any property crime unless it is a clouted person.
Pubic hair collections will be done by nurses and a dick will pick those up at the hospital.
The two guys who teach the part of the training that covers interviews of suspects in custody are Lt Dennis Walsh and Sgt Sam Cerone. That's not a joke either, ask anyone who has taken the course. LOL
4/07/2014 01:12:00 AM
These two buffoons can tell me what I need to know after they pass their first promotional exams high enough not to need yet another merit promotion.
this department is changing right before our very eyes--- we went from being a nice shiny cadillac to a faded rusty pinto--- where is all this money going that is being saved by rahmbo....
Just heard this morning that Aguliar's FOP computer is missing.
Isn't that theft/burglary?
Unless he's just cleaning up the hard drive and wants to return it in pristine condition.
The strategy is quite simple rather it's right in front of you, and us. The city, the dept, GMac, all they want are MORE bodies for the marked squad car, primarily in the districts. They view VRI as a success, just a bunch of coppers in a squad car on every corner will keep the numbers down in their own twisted logic. The only way to achieve that goal without hiring new coppers is working with what you already have. Thus too many Det.s, dump some. As for Et's , their view is since the Det.s are already there they can collect evidence too, thus more bodies from forensics to put back into beat cars. It's all about eliminating jobs, positions, units, teams, etc... That do the same thing or can do what the other does thus freeing up more coppers for the beat car. After all in the Marine Corps everyone is a basic rifleman regardless of your rank or MOS. The same thing is true here, everyone in all these units are police officers who basic function is to patrol. Ultimately units will be for the very clouted and very few and very difficult to get into but patrol is wide open. Stay safe.
Who is the as swipe that is always complaining about the area central detectives? It's getting old
What's the 26th st scandal
more We'll-Do-Like-Private-Industry crap,
Do-More-With-Less.
AKA more SMOKE AND MIRRORS!!!
Sad to say but this job is really starting to suck
I'm a blue shirt beat dog. None of this matters to me because I figured out a LONG time ago that getting 'promoted' simply isn't worth the headache unless you have a phone call to keep you moving up the chain. Get time on the job, bid to a nice district, bid to the watch you need, and suddenly you have a whole lot of good days because you can't be moved. And they wonder why morale is down? How on earth did they manage to mess up the position of Det, once the crown jewel of testable promotions? Here's a contact card. I'll look like a star at compstat. I'm off to get my coffee...
OT- SCC, I wanted to e-mail you this link but I'm borderline CI (computer illiterate).
Very interesting info regarding McCarthy's bullshit numbers. Enjoy.
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/
Area Central is losing 7 detectives to the 26th/cal court scandal. All are from Homicide and Shooting teams
4/07/2014 04:32:00 AM
Why don't you enlighten us, Carnak?
Train currentET and FI as detectives . One less police commander , less office police and a few more detectives to investigate and process crime scenes.
What does a. Et or fi sgt do?
DW and SC teaching interview techniques, are you kidding me. I was just told that Salamis was teaching about arrestees rights. Three of this departments loosers doing and teching exactly what they are terrible at. These three all involved in the Vaneco case up to their hairline......and they are teaching Detectives....to do what? How to loose your job in thirty days or less. If anyone knows these three goofs then they know that their careers are based on favors, family ties, nepatism and back room deals. All have had extremely poor judgement and some say should have been jailed, ass grabbing, assault, theft of a scope, and these are the three McDrunk has teaching his investigators. Where are the good, the honest, the knowledgeable, the undaunted "non criminal " bosses that's who should be teaching not these derelicts of the department. And what is dino teaching....email writting 101. No wonder we are the laughing stock of the L.E. community
Anonymous said...
Area Central is losing 7 detectives to the 26th/cal court scandal. All are from Homicide and Shooting teams
4/07/2014 04:32:00 AM
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BULLSHIT--Your probably in SVU
Who authored or sponsored/co-sponsored the State Law ?
time to make a class of evidence techs to handle jobs in the field!THEY ARE WAY SHORT ON MANPOWER!
Many of the folks in the crime lab have been getting lieutenants or captains pay ( pensioned) for many years. Now that is a clout job.
Simeon high school sophomore " Gunned Down" and not a peep out of Garry or Rahm. Quit saying crime is dowm. Garry you are delusional or just drunk. It's pretty pathetic right about now. Be a man and admit your in over your head and let a REAL policeman take over. Time to go Garry. 3 years are up in May and that's how long a superintendent usually lasts. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
Long gone are the good old days of an et assigned to every watch in every district.....
What most POs don't understand is the actual act of collecting the evidence is only part of what the ETs and FIs do. The most time consuming part is the packaging, inventories, and reports that have to be done afterwards so the evidence can be properly routed and used in a trial if arrests are made. If that is not done correctly the evidence may be worthless. Detectives need to be out in the street following leads and not in the area doing inventories and POs are already to busy running from job to job to be tied up doing the same.
Ret.177
OT: 2 Dead and 25 people shot over the weekend. Fuck. This is going to be a long summer. I guess VRI was just expanded. I would love to be a fly on the wall when Garry gets his ass reamed by Rahm this morning. Oh and by the way Garry was on Rush street partying it up while Chiraq was going up for grabs. And don't forget he's the highest paid city employee. Could never figure that one out. How does he make more than the mayor. Where you at media?
Sorry but a lot of do nothing dicks brought this on themselves.
•When the detectives are state-certified as lead homicide investigators at the end of the course, they will be able to handle tasks now assigned only to evidence technicians.
That includes collecting DNA evidence by swabbing a consenting suspect’s mouth; conducting gunshot-residue tests, and shooting evidentiary photos of people placed in line-ups.
PER Detective Div SOP they are supposed to do that now. ET's still handle a lot of other things, and will ride on those jobs when they are available. However, when 3rd watch ET's are running 8 bodies (furlo's and RDO)for the entire city, the Detectives can handle the mundane and otherwise easy jobs such as bucal swabs, GSRs and lineup photos.
This police dept is a joke. Compared to other police depts we are a joke. Two more years. Cannot wait.
Area Central is losing 7 detectives to the 26th/cal court scandal. All are from Homicide and Shooting teams
4/07/2014 04:32:00 AM
Good to see they are running the investigation past someone as qualified and trustworthy as you. Keep us up to date. Be careful not to end up at callback with them.
Can I be marine unit mounted unit swat caps k9 et crime lab and a detective at the same time? So now if member is doing multiple tasks do we get paid as such or are we just getting more work for no benefit?
3 men shot on the west side Monday morning. It's getting to the point where it's not even funny anymore. Crime is down though. Right Garry?
Anonymous said...
Duhhhh....keep bringing in contact cards, parkers, and curfews, duhhhhhhh.........that will show dem we mean buisness.....duhhhhhh!!!!
4/07/2014 12:40:00 AM
Every single night at checkoff I wonder why the bin that holds tickets, parkers, anov's, etc. is full to the brim? Why?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sad to say but this job is really starting to suck
4/07/2014 10:24:00 AM
Starting?
Anonymous said...
more We'll-Do-Like-Private-Industry crap,
Do-More-With-Less.
AKA more SMOKE AND MIRRORS!!!
4/07/2014 10:10:00 AM
Here's the deal, they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Well, I can see the dicks demanding D3 pay shortly. As a consequence I'll start receiving D4 to supervise these chuckleheads!!! It's a win-win for everyone!
4/07/2014 12:50:00 AM
We don't need you supervising us. We're smarter than you are.
4/07/2014 07:22:00 AM
You're a detective. Please tell us you didn't REALLY think the 'chucklehead' comment was made by a supervisor.
Anonymous said...
I liked it better when ET's were in the district and assigned to the watch. All you had to do was go wake them up - and they came over and processed the scene ! Ya they were all crabby - but system worked.
4/07/2014 07:43:00 AM
"Processed the scene"?????
Where do you work? They would come over, or sometimes call, and tell me to put down "the scene is contaminated" and gave me their beat and star number.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just heard this morning that Aguliar's FOP computer is missing.
Isn't that theft/burglary?
Unless he's just cleaning up the hard drive and wants to return it in pristine condition.
4/07/2014 09:33:00 AM
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FYI run the City-Wide Team's web site - it's gone. Wanted to see if Dougherty put up a concession speech. Good guess is that Aguliar was running the campaign and throwing the mud from his computer.
https://sites.google.com/site/citywideteam/
Commenting on the newly created employee resource that governs an official removal process for D-2,D-2A, and D-3:
*The current contract failed to include language to address all of the positions covered in the aforementioned categories especially for demoting officers from those positions. Yes I said DEMOTING. The City of Chicago Hiring plan defines these assignments as promotions as did TRACY LADNER in documents obtained in Discovery in a related and purported Inspector General's Investigation. She says "these positions/officers were promoted"
The Security Specialist lawsuit is squarely what exposed this vulnerability in which the city has repeatedly acted "capricious" unlawfully demoting officers assigned to a higher paying titles without legal cause. They did the same to the ET's.
You do NOT need to be promoted in rank under the law or to take a test to be promoted in pay and job title. This includes non tested positions.
The Security Specialist lawsuit has also exposed how Terry Hillard and Commander Thompson of unit 542 exchanged emails that included a "list" of officers to be retained as Security Specialist that ONLY had their race written next to their names, NOT their tenure, NOT their annual rating, NOT their star #, NOT their seniority date. NOT anything else...JUST THEIR RACE!
Blatant EEOC violation. Hillard and or Thompson retained 100% of the black officers during the Daley/Rahm transition while the black officers actually only represented 22% of the original unit.
Hillard admitted in the past to receiving calls as Superintendant saying "we need a black guy for unit 542" and thereby sending Brian Thompson to the unit to fill the quota for a "black guy". Thompson eventually took the Commander's position and retained the same under Hillard.
This illegal way of filling a position was again employed by Hillard and or Thompson During the Rahm/Daley transition.
All of the above FACTS are available in transcripts from in the FOP official arbitration regarding the Security Specialists.
This is just a peek on the inside as how the CPD Exempts, the Human Resources Department, and the Inspector General's office totally mishandled their responsibilities, blatantly violating police officers civil rights and the FOP contract.
Rahm and the Super are personally named in the lawsuit and the City of Chicago failed on two occasions to have this case dismissed. It is here to stay!
As a side note, the City has hired Mayer Brown (the firm that litigated Emanuel's residency fight..wink wink) to represent the City in this matter. So far they have generated about $250,000.00 in legal bills and the matter is far from over...
The documents from this matter are publicly available.
4/07/2014 07:22:00 AM
You're a detective. Please tell us you didn't REALLY think the 'chucklehead' comment was made by a supervisor.
Are you still here sarge? We're still smarter than you.
Anonymous said...
OT: 2 Dead and 25 people shot over the weekend. Fuck. This is going to be a long summer. I guess VRI was just expanded. I would love to be a fly on the wall when Garry gets his ass reamed by Rahm this morning. Oh and by the way Garry was on Rush street partying it up while Chiraq was going up for grabs. And don't forget he's the highest paid city employee. Could never figure that one out. How does he make more than the mayor. Where you at media?
4/07/2014 12:32:00 PM
Because the mayor can steal more than the superintendent.
Anonymous said...
City can't make D1 do it bec they file a grievance and win.
4/07/2014 07:45:00 AM
Just like they won the desk sgt grievance?
Oh, wait.......
Anonymous Anonymous said...
DW and SC teaching interview techniques, are you kidding me. I was just told that Salamis was teaching about arrestees rights. Three of this departments loosers doing and teching exactly what they are terrible at. These three all involved in the Vaneco case up to their hairline......and they are teaching Detectives....to do what? How to loose your job in thirty days or less. If anyone knows these three goofs then they know that their careers are based on favors, family ties, nepatism and back room deals. All have had extremely poor judgement and some say should have been jailed, ass grabbing, assault, theft of a scope, and these are the three McDrunk has teaching his investigators. Where are the good, the honest, the knowledgeable, the undaunted "non criminal " bosses that's who should be teaching not these derelicts of the department. And what is dino teaching....email writting 101. No wonder we are the laughing stock of the L.E. community
4/07/2014 11:17:00 AM
You can thank Lt KS for the quality of the Detective Div instructors these days. She took it out of control of those who have done it for years. Even Dean the Dream didn't take her with him when he moved to patrol. Don't trust her, watch your back around her and don't listen to anything she says.
If u detectives r so overworked, please come back to the district watch , we could use your skills and since you work special employment as a police officer, we know your uniform fits . Get off your high horse.
I'm not a big fan of Dennis or Sam but, in all fairness, I thought their presentation at the class was not bad. Maybe overly simplistic, but not bad. Now if only they did what they preach...
Anonymous said...
Duhhhh....keep bringing in contact cards, parkers, and curfews, duhhhhhhh.........that will show dem we mean buisness.....duhhhhhh!!!!
4/07/2014 12:40:00 AM
Every single night at checkoff I wonder why the bin that holds tickets, parkers, anov's, etc. is full to the brim? Why?
4/07/2014 01:52:00 PM
Don't worry, they already replaced your lack of work with TMA, revenue, city enforcement, and cameras. Now what are you not going to do? Make sure when people ask why OUR job sucks, you tell them what you did to get it there. It hasn't hit rock bottom, but that's only because the few workers left haven't lay down yet.
Hug a Thug 2.0
Anonymous said...
more We'll-Do-Like-Private-Industry crap,
Do-More-With-Less.
AKA more SMOKE AND MIRRORS!!!
4/07/2014 10:10:00 AM
Here's the deal, they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.
4/07/2014 02:31:00 PM
Holy Shit!!! Your check bounced? That's bullshit bro. You should stop working immediately. They repealed slavery and your right not to work. UNLESS, your check hasn't bounced..Then your an ASSHOLE.
Missed the lead!!! Guess you trains the detectives ???? SC and DW
Anonymous said...
The two guys who teach the part of the training that covers interviews of suspects in custody are Lt Dennis Walsh and Sgt Sam Cerone. That's not a joke either, ask anyone who has taken the course. LOL
4/07/2014 01:12:00 AM
Ha ha - if this comment is true, our "training" is more pathetic than I ever thought possible.
Training given by 2 individuals who cannot pass a promotional exam and are under intense scrutiny in the Vanecko fiasco?? You can't make this stuff up.
Holy Shit!!! Your check bounced? That's bullshit bro. You should stop working immediately. They repealed slavery and your right not to work. UNLESS, your check hasn't bounced..Then your an ASSHOLE.
4/07/2014 06:49:00 PM
Dipshit management suckhole.
Is anyone going to explain the AREA CENTRAL scandal????
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
City can't make D1 do it bec they file a grievance and win.
4/07/2014 07:45:00 AM
Just like they won the desk sgt grievance?
Oh, wait.......
Desk sgt grievance is still going on. Only the case involving the guy from 005 has been tossed out. Everyone else's case has yet to be heard. Prob won't be until the new crew gets settled in at FOP
Pick up your own evidence jagoff. Im going back to sleep.
Commenting on the newly created employee resource that governs an official removal process for D-2,D-2A, and D-3:
*The current contract failed to include language to address all of the positions covered in the aforementioned categories especially for demoting officers from those positions. Yes I said DEMOTING. The City of Chicago Hiring plan defines these assignments as promotions as did TRACY LADNER in documents obtained in Discovery in a related and purported Inspector General's Investigation. She says "these positions/officers were promoted"
The Security Specialist lawsuit is squarely what exposed this vulnerability in which the city has repeatedly acted "capricious" unlawfully demoting officers assigned to a higher paying titles without legal cause. They did the same to the ET's.
You do NOT need to be promoted in rank under the law or to take a test to be promoted in pay and job title. This includes non tested positions.
The Security Specialist lawsuit has also exposed how Terry Hillard and Commander Thompson of unit 542 exchanged emails that included a "list" of officers to be retained as Security Specialist that ONLY had their race written next to their names, NOT their tenure, NOT their annual rating, NOT their star #, NOT their seniority date. NOT anything else...JUST THEIR RACE!
Blatant EEOC violation. Hillard and or Thompson retained 100% of the black officers during the Daley/Rahm transition while the black officers actually only represented 22% of the original unit.
Hillard admitted in the past to receiving calls as Superintendant saying "we need a black guy for unit 542" and thereby sending Brian Thompson to the unit to fill the quota for a "black guy". Thompson eventually took the Commander's position and retained the same under Hillard.
This illegal way of filling a position was again employed by Hillard and or Thompson During the Rahm/Daley transition.
All of the above FACTS are available in transcripts from in the FOP official arbitration regarding the Security Specialists.
This is just a peek on the inside as how the CPD Exempts, the Human Resources Department, and the Inspector General's office totally mishandled their responsibilities, blatantly violating police officers civil rights and the FOP contract.
Rahm and the Super are personally named in the lawsuit and the City of Chicago failed on two occasions to have this case dismissed. It is here to stay!
As a side note, the City has hired Mayer Brown (the firm that litigated Emanuel's residency fight..wink wink) to represent the City in this matter. So far they have generated about $250,000.00 in legal bills and the matter is far from over...
The documents from this matter are publicly available.
4/07/2014 02:54:00 PM
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worth re-posting
this is how your gov't works! Hurray!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just heard this morning that Aguliar's FOP computer is missing.
Isn't that theft/burglary?
Unless he's just cleaning up the hard drive and wants to return it in pristine condition.
4/07/2014 09:33:00 AM
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FYI run the City-Wide Team's web site - it's gone. Wanted to see if Dougherty put up a concession speech. Good guess is that Aguliar was running the campaign and throwing the mud from his computer.
https://sites.google.com/site/citywideteam/
4/07/2014 02:47:00 PM
$$$
I'll beat $100usc that they find the flight data recorder from Malaysia Airlines flight 370 before they find Aguliar's hard drive with any data on it.
Blatant EEOC violation. Hillard and or Thompson retained 100% of the black officers during the Daley/Rahm transition while the black officers actually only represented 22% of the original unit.
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These two are dumb and dumber. Many thought Hillard was a great guy. He made chief of Dick' and his true colars came to light. He was a hater and would diss a white copper in a seconf. Thompson is just an idiot who lacks any skills and makes Cmdr pay and being a D-1 -Police officer.
Hillard should of gotten an Oscar for his act when the late-great 1st. Dep died from a HA. John was a prince and well knew Hillard was a hater and back stabber. John carried the CPD ! Hillard took the credit. Hillard promoyed the worse of the worse of exempts in CPD' history. Adriana Stanley for one, who never seen the street and was related to John Stroger. She is still hidden somewhere making 140 K for a zero do nothing house mouse.
Headquarter's hides so many exempt's that screwed up bad it is beyond funny.
Look further at 014' former Cmdr. She got a office and has nothing to do but play pac man on her black berry.
I am sure people of this great blog can name another cmdr' hidden in the building and do zippo.
Yhe inspector General should audit these people and check what they do for big yax payer $$.
Another news story brought to you nuDity of Chicago Ministry of News.
worth re-posting
this is how your gov't works! Hurray!
4/07/2014 09:12:00 PM
Worth reposting if you are one of the officers that got reassigned (not demoted). You quote Tracey Ladner? She was one of the most, if not the most, incompetent persons ever employed by this Department.
Get over it. You got lucky and made a ton of money for holding the Mayor's coat. You should be happy you scammed the taxpayers for all that dough and didn't go to jail. Now you want more. New sheriff means new deputies. Stop trying to steal more money from the taxpayers.
Lastly, if we liked the Mayor, we would have given him better body guards. You guys were a joke.
Another news story brought to you nuDity of Chicago Ministry of News.
Anonymous said...
I'm not a big fan of Dennis or Sam but, in all fairness, I thought their presentation at the class was not bad. Maybe overly simplistic, but not bad. Now if only they did what they preach...
4/07/2014 06:28:00 PM
Sam, Denis, Wojcik, and Salemme are four merit promotee's who are embedded within the most sensitive positions in the Chicago Police Department Detective Bureau solely to accept the phone call in the middle of the night from their benefactors when intercession is required to stop or impede an investigation. Don't believe me? It's been going on for years and is the reason Area Five never, ever solved an outfit murder except for Billy Logan and man did the bosses there try to undermine the Harry Aleman investigation. Still don't believe me? This time it was the Koschman murder and you can read about the collusion, or seemingly deliberate investigative mis-steps in Webbs report. There is nothing these two could ever teach me.
Sam, Denis, Wojcik, and Salemme are four merit promotee's who are embedded within the most sensitive positions in the Chicago Police Department Detective Bureau solely to accept the phone call in the middle of the night from their benefactors when intercession is required to stop or impede an investigation. Don't believe me? It's been going on for years and is the reason Area Five never, ever solved an outfit murder except for Billy Logan and man did the bosses there try to undermine the Harry Aleman investigation. Still don't believe me? This time it was the Koschman murder and you can read about the collusion, or seemingly deliberate investigative mis-steps in Webbs report. There is nothing these two could ever teach me.
all linkages to Handhardt and his regime. These are the off spring of "handharts guys".
4/08/2014 09:46:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just heard this morning that Aguliar's FOP computer is missing.
Isn't that theft/burglary?
Unless he's just cleaning up the hard drive and wants to return it in pristine condition.
4/07/2014 09:33:00 AM
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
FYI run the City-Wide Team's web site - it's gone. Wanted to see if Dougherty put up a concession speech. Good guess is that Aguliar was running the campaign and throwing the mud from his computer.
https://sites.google.com/site/citywideteam/
4/07/2014 02:47:00 PM
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I'll beat $100usc that they find the flight data recorder from Malaysia Airlines flight 370 before they find Aguliar's hard drive with any data on it.
4/07/2014 09:44:00 PM
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News Flash from the Indian Ocean!
No flight data recorder but the fond Aguliar's computer minus the hard drive. The battery on the BIOS was giving off that pulse sound. But they did find about 400 grievances of coppers who died or retired before their cases could be heard. Thanks Rich. Or should I say Mr. Google?
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Sam, Denis, Wojcik, and Salemme are four merit promotee's who are embedded within the most sensitive positions in the Chicago Police Department Detective Bureau solely to accept the phone call in the middle of the night from their benefactors when intercession is required to stop or impede an investigation. Don't believe me? It's been going on for years and is the reason Area Five never, ever solved an outfit murder except for Billy Logan and man did the bosses there try to undermine the Harry Aleman investigation. Still don't believe me? This time it was the Koschman murder and you can read about the collusion, or seemingly deliberate investigative mis-steps in Webbs report. There is nothing these two could ever teach me.
all linkages to Handhardt and his regime. These are the off spring of "handharts guys".
4/08/2014 09:46:00 AM
4/08/2014 05:54:00 PM
so true. Proteges of the Hanhardt Squad ?
Sycophants like Bill Cameron and John Dempsy, of WLS AM Radio News are also responsible, as all they do is further the Regimes agenda, never reporting the real facts and never reporting the sources they quote, for their praising of their pro [Democrat-Coirmmunist] Regime.
It's been going on for years and is the reason Area Five never, ever solved an outfit murder except for Billy Logan and man did the bosses there try to undermine the Harry Aleman investigation.
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Wow. Moron.
So how many "outfit murders" are we talking about here? You really have no idea do you? I think the Koschman close was actually written on the grassy knoll. Goof!
A few years back, we took offenders to a lab to have a blood draw for DNA. When that was not necessary anymore (most consented to the oversized Q-tip over the needle), we swabbed offenders for DNA (had to check the gag reflex at the door), collected and bagged evidence, had photos taken of line-ups (from other det's in the Area for those of us not camera savvy) and on and on. Can't always take an ET to a downstate prison, and got tired of waiting for them to show up at the area. We got done what needed to be done. All without additional training. Bad guys got charged and convicted. It's a win win in my book. So what's the big deal?
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