Safe Passage Conundrum
- Safe Passage routes made headlines last year, amid those massive school closings and fears over student safety.
With the school year over, a statistic emerges: There were exactly zero serious incidents of violence along the routes.
Congratulations! A massive show of force and neighborhood involvement resulted in a complete reduction in crime during the so-called "Safe Passage" hours. Of course, if you look at the historic crime numbers for the 0600-0900 time frame, you'll find a near zero number anyway. But we won't mention that.
So the question is now this? Does the Department permit Safe Passage to continue? Because guess what? Crime was down, almost non-existent in certain Districts where the police live. So what did McCarthy and Rahm do?
So the question is now this? Does the Department permit Safe Passage to continue? Because guess what? Crime was down, almost non-existent in certain Districts where the police live. So what did McCarthy and Rahm do?
- stripped the police out of those neighborhoods - they claimed you didn't need them where the crime wasn't.
Guess what? There isn't any crime on the Safe Passage routes. Not almost no crime. Zero. So we feel justified in asking, "Why keep the police where they aren't needed?" Property crime has skyrocketed in the districts that lost officers. Districts like 019/023 can't even keep a lid on a district full of mostly happy drunks.
Or would pointing this all out make us racist?
Or would pointing this all out make us racist?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
86 Comments:
"...Districts like 023 can't even keep a lid on a district full of mostly happy drunks...."
I hate to be a stickler for detail, but 023 no longer exists. It's 019 now.
It seems to make sense to concentrate the coppers in the areas where crime is. However, that decision is for Rahm and the Big Guy's to make. It is above everyone else's paygrade.
Lies
Ot
Restricted time off as far as the month of August. We don't have a man power issue? Really does anyone really believe this.
Go Bears 2014 and fuck the animals. We do not care. Shoot your selves in the foot in the arm in the knee. Stay safe and alert law enforcement. Get threw this Summer. Stay alert.
"Not almost no crime. Zero."
C'mon, now! Those were ComCRAP-based numbers, you silly goose! Just more fabrication to justify a total waste of taxpayers dollars. Let's call it what it is: pacifying the democratic voting base.
'So we feel justified in asking, "Why keep the police where they aren't needed?"'
Well, you just know they're gonna pull a play from the Predictive Analytics (or whatever the Crystal Ball Unit was called) book and say "we're keeping the police on Safe Savage routes because we predict bad things happening if they were to be relocated back to the [deserving, taxpaying and societal contributing] areas from whence they came. Funny how these same assholes can't envision (actually, they WON'T acknowledge) the direct correlation of crime surges in areas stripped of police.
"With the school year over, a statistic emerges: There were exactly zero serious incidents of violence along the routes."
Ha! Too effin' bad everything emcompassing the routes is a ghetto-style self-cleaning oven.
"Or would pointing this all out make us racist?"
Yuuuupppppp, sure as hell would. Ironic, considering those who cry the loudest are usually the biggest racists themselves.
This is what fucks the Hegewisch beat car.
130th to 136th should have its own car that can never, ever leave barring a major hot incident but that isn't the case, which leaves that area- the one most in need of protection- vulnerable on a near constant basis.
These assholes and their bullshit staffing voo-doo cause a lot of unneeded havoc.
In a way I have to wonder if Safe Passage is worth the effort, considering the graduation rate and average grade reading level...
Safe passage was an absolute waste of time and a misuse of police manpower. It was used solely to advance the Mayor's political agenda. We had to down 5-6 cars twice a day for that bullshit.
Anonymous said...
This is what fucks the Hegewisch beat car.
130th to 136th should have its own car that can never, ever leave barring a major hot incident but that isn't the case, which leaves that area- the one most in need of protection- vulnerable on a near constant basis.
These assholes and their bullshit staffing voo-doo cause a lot of unneeded havoc.
6/15/2014 01:27:00 AM
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433's bt should be from 110th-126th pl.
A new 435 should be from 126th pl to the border of Burnham... Just my two cents
Too bad the midnight LT's don't keep 433 on the bt like 3rd watch does...
Didnt a 13 year old get raped along a safe passage route on her way to school in the am? These freaking politicians and their manipulation of statistics.
Well, when you change the address of occurrence anything is possible. Happens all the time where I work.
Is almost a number!
The lame stream media let Gmac skate again!
Oh well Happy Fathers day out to all the dads who have to work on this great day and cannot use time due because Rahm is on bullshit.
They're all sleeping during those hours.
it's all about the children.....and the politicos absolute bullshit...
Safe Passage is what is wrong with the black community. Parents not walking their kids to school when there is a threat of violence. Sending police, fire, streets and san, etc. to make sure their kids get to school safe. They should be ashamed of themselves, but...
Happy Fathers Day one and all! Stay safe.....
Anonymous said...
It seems to make sense to concentrate the coppers in the areas where crime is. However, that decision is for Rahm and the Big Guy's to make. It is above everyone else's paygrade.
6/15/2014 12:26:00 AM
Bullshit. I pay for police service, unlike most residents of the south and west sides. I wait forever for a response to anything in 016--all the while, garages are being broken into, shitheads take over the neighborhood parks. My neighbors aren't shooting each other at graduation parties, granted, but we still need some patrols available in our communities to keep those who are doing the shooting OUT.
023 still exists in the hearts and minds of men like me who invaded like the Vikings and had our way with their man-starved women.
You know what SCC?
You are f*cking AWESOME.
Who else would have looked at crime stats and come to that conclusion? NOBODY!
Thanks so much for your dedication to pointing out what the media refuses to address.
I don't know what is going to happen when you retire--hopefully you've got some horses in the paddock waiting to run!
it's time to legalize any behavior that results in higher crime stats.
That way there's no more crime, and we won't need police anywhere.
After that we expunge, pardon, and release all inmates currently detained.
The taxpayer doesn't need the police. Shut those districts down and move those coppers to the areas where no one pays taxes.
Problem solved by the stupid taxpaying voting (non voting) citizens of Shitcago.
Happy Father's Day SCC if it applies!
When I'm assigned to safe passage, I park on the route, read my paper, and wave to the kiddies. Easiest 3 hours almost like working VRI.
Off Topic...I'm a concealed carry licensee. Have no criminal record. My grandpa was a cop, and have nothing but respect for Chicago Police.
I also have noting but respect for this blog and what motivates SCC to do what he does. Thank you for this.
Please bear with me with my question here...
I went downtown last weekend with my family (my wife and small kids.) Like I do almost every day now, I conceal carried a small 9mm inside my waistband, at my appendix, under my shirt. 100% unnoticeable with my build and clothing.
While I've grown up around guns, I don't take this lightly. Choosing to carry can be a life or death decision for me. I understand this risk.
Anyhow, we decided to eat dinner at Portillos. We parked a block away and walked. I'm at the rear of my family as we enter the restaurant. Then I notice the sticker. The ugly "No Guns Allowed" sticker.
I have to stop and wave to my wife, who's already in the building with our kids, that I'm going back to the fucking car to lock up my gun.
Granted, Portillos has the right to prevent me from carrying in their building. I respect that. I also respect other choices we have in this country.
THAT IS MY LAST TIME I WILL GO TO PORTILLOS.
My question to you guys is, What if I missed the sign? What I my kids dropped their french fries on the floor, I bend over to pick it up, and someone sees the gun?
You get the call, the complainant points me out from behind, you find me sitting in the restaurant peacefully, not even knowing why you're there. What do you do?
Do you arrest me or send me home?
Seriously, I want to know...I'm not trying to be an ass or stir up controversy, I just want to know, if it's in your discretion to arrest me or not, what would you do?
Safepassage in 20 is hugh joke. Just another reason for the dogs to hide.
Safe passage is all smoke and mirrors. Thugs don't typically get up early for anyone and usually attack their enemies at random not just before and after school. Take a look at our murder rate. Still high just not at times known for gang related activity. Stop this bullshit already we are short staffed enough without pulling officers to babysit.
"Insignificant, racist"...
Thank God they didn't stoop to calling you a Democrat politician.
All of the calls were outside of safe passage. There were still hundreds of calls for battery in progress after the schools got out...
Happy Fathers Day. There are a lot of exceptionally good fathers on the CPD that do a great job raising good children. I salute all of you today.
Ot
Restricted time off as far as the month of August. We don't have a man power issue? Really does anyone really believe this.
Man, that VRI is worth it! So what if my kids no longer recognize me! At least I've got a new jet ski I can never use!
019/23 is accurate. The 023RD side runs the District and places the 019TH side in "Red Headed Step-child" status. There's POs in fast district that really want in a Northside District, but take a good look at the last 3 to 4 periods and ull notice more than 30 vacancies we're posted. Even Sgts and Lts R bidding out of that sinking ship. This can B traced back directly to Mike Ryan. I hope that the good folks in 024 aren't dealing w/Napleon's much slower little brother "Iron Mike." This person can truly screw up a watch, a district, and the rudimentary words in the English language.
C/O Voulgaris is allowing kids w/no X on call their own shots. The 1st watch is run by a woman that has a striking resemblance to a boxer in the "Mike Tyson's Punch Out." Bald Bull and her side kick, Roller Girl, command the sheets in 023 destroying any potential for a system of checks and balances. Y wood some1 stay there to B treated like there working in a "Brave New World." If you're an Alpha U don't speak to Betas and most certainly anything below that in this highly elitist form of Mediterranean Management.
Can't wait 2 get out of this modern day Titanic.
Yes and Mikey sent the letter. Bawhaa
Why doesn't every child receive equal protection in Chicago? Why are safe passage patrols only in minority neighborhoods . Does our city leaders think minorities are
Violent ? Every neighborhood should provide protection for the children .
OT: So GO already!
Obama longs to break out of White House bubble
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-longs-break-white-house-bubble-120614293--politics.html
O.T.
Not a rumor to the chief keef moving to the 008th district. Talked to a fellow that lives in that building and it was confirmed that chief keef has now joined the association and is only renting the 2 units did not purchase them. To the officers living in that complex good luck! This boy will turn it into a section 8 englewood west hangout in no time.
THAT IS MY LAST TIME I WILL GO TO PORTILLOS. . . .
My question to you guys is, What if I missed the sign? What I my kids dropped their french fries on the floor, I bend over to pick it up, and someone sees the gun?
Do you arrest me or send me home?
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There is actually a set of new criminal charges which include someone WHO HAS a concealed permit and they carry it in an unauthorized place.
It's a misdemeanor charge and it could blow your permit unless you spend a lot of cash on an lawyer (OR a Cook County Judge)
You can Google the new set of charges somewhere on the internet.
Personally, I would never lock up a decent person with a weapon who is protecting their family unless I was forced to. (ie; on camera, a boss insists etc..)
"So we feel justified in asking, "Why keep the police where they aren't needed?" Property crime has skyrocketed in the districts that lost officers. Districts like 019/023 can't even keep a lid on a district full of mostly happy drunks."
Not one side of town deserves more police than the other - well actually, deserves to have police stripped from their neighborhoods. Because there is no debating that some neighborhoods do in fact need more of a police presence than others. But I also feel justified in asking, what made you guys come up with this question RIGHT AFTER posting that 15 people were shot?
"Didnt a 13 year old get raped along a safe passage route on her way to school in the am? These freaking politicians and their manipulation of statistics."
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About a block away in any direction from a safe passage route actually. I always questioned why there was safe passage route in that neighborhood. While it isn't an ideal area, maybe on par with the first few blocks in 015, I don't recall any school closings in that area. I know a Charter school was recently built on the side of Northwest Middle school, maybe thats why?
Screw the sign - it's a misdemeanor if you don't leave when asked...
The only place I'm not going to risk carrying is inside a police station, or a school...
Cop shop = more guns and ammo than I have... and I don't need to risk death over a mistake from a rookie... or someone with an itchy trigger finger...
School = felony... who needs that shit? Carry an asp and some mace to ward off the ghouls that roam the halls...
Everywhere else - ignore it. It's concealed. No one has to know, no one needs to know. Keep it that way.
If someone robs the place - LET THEM - none of your business. Besides, the place put up a "No Guns Sign" so they get what they deserve. If the criminal approaches you and wants to do you harm, shoot the mutherfucker - make sure he's dead. Say nothing but you were in fear of your life, and LAWYER.
I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6...
Anonymous said...
Off Topic...I'm a concealed carry licensee. Have no criminal record. My grandpa was a cop, and have nothing but respect for Chicago Police.
I also have noting but respect for this blog and what motivates SCC to do what he does. Thank you for this.
Please bear with me with my question here...
I went downtown last weekend with my family (my wife and small kids.) Like I do almost every day now, I conceal carried a small 9mm inside my waistband, at my appendix, under my shirt. 100% unnoticeable with my build and clothing.
While I've grown up around guns, I don't take this lightly. Choosing to carry can be a life or death decision for me. I understand this risk.
Anyhow, we decided to eat dinner at Portillos. We parked a block away and walked. I'm at the rear of my family as we enter the restaurant. Then I notice the sticker. The ugly "No Guns Allowed" sticker.
I have to stop and wave to my wife, who's already in the building with our kids, that I'm going back to the fucking car to lock up my gun.
Granted, Portillos has the right to prevent me from carrying in their building. I respect that. I also respect other choices we have in this country.
THAT IS MY LAST TIME I WILL GO TO PORTILLOS.
My question to you guys is, What if I missed the sign? What I my kids dropped their french fries on the floor, I bend over to pick it up, and someone sees the gun?
You get the call, the complainant points me out from behind, you find me sitting in the restaurant peacefully, not even knowing why you're there. What do you do?
Do you arrest me or send me home?
Seriously, I want to know...I'm not trying to be an ass or stir up controversy, I just want to know, if it's in your discretion to arrest me or not, what would you do?
6/15/2014 09:28:00 AM
#1) You are too stupid to carry a gun.
#2) Seriously, refer to #1.
For God's sake, carry the f*cking gun if nobody can tell--your safety and your family's safety is more important than worrying about a possible charge if you do use it or someone sees it. You tripped over your kid, you were holding the door open for someone, God!
And for God's sake, don't walk back to your f*cking car and leave your gun in it.
Good grief....don't EVER carry if you don't understand the concept of what that right means. I have to go bang my head against the wall now. Thanks.
Anonymous said...
Safe Passage is what is wrong with the black community. Parents not walking their kids to school when there is a threat of violence. Sending police, fire, streets and san, etc. to make sure their kids get to school safe. They should be ashamed of themselves, but...
6/15/2014 08:12:00 AM
Those parents have no shame. They can't be bothered picking peanut up from scooool. They be getting they drink on.
Rahm needs to make CPS pay for safe passage as an OT gig. I'm sure there are a few hundred more political-hack jobs the CPS could eliminate to pay for it.
As a rule, the officers in 019/023 are a bunch of climbers and boss ass kissers anyway. Look at the illustrious careers of Barbie doll, her daughter baby Barbie, and bb too.
Yes, agree, Ryan is a stone prick. Ruined the old 19 and poisoned the new 19. He can't possibly lay low for too long in 24...if he hasn't already begun his cowardly attack on the POs, then he will soon. He hides behind others in white shirts that he orders to do things to hurt the blue shirts. For a do-nothing that was merit his whole career, he has alot of nerve. Glad Olive Oyl landed okay on 16s desk tho. Wow, that's not too obvious, is it? Hope the rest of them know she is a snitch and backstabber. It's nice not seeing her big phony toothy smile around 19 anymore.
She sure sold her soul for "true love". Puke.
Off Topic...I'm a concealed carry licensee. Have no criminal record. My grandpa was a cop, and have nothing but respect for Chicago Police.
I also have noting but respect for this blog and what motivates SCC to do what he does. Thank you for this.
Please bear with me with my question here...
I went downtown last weekend with my family (my wife and small kids.) Like I do almost every day now, I conceal carried a small 9mm inside my waistband, at my appendix, under my shirt. 100% unnoticeable with my build and clothing.
While I've grown up around guns, I don't take this lightly. Choosing to carry can be a life or death decision for me. I understand this risk.
Anyhow, we decided to eat dinner at Portillos. We parked a block away and walked. I'm at the rear of my family as we enter the restaurant. Then I notice the sticker. The ugly "No Guns Allowed" sticker.
I have to stop and wave to my wife, who's already in the building with our kids, that I'm going back to the fucking car to lock up my gun.
Granted, Portillos has the right to prevent me from carrying in their building. I respect that. I also respect other choices we have in this country.
THAT IS MY LAST TIME I WILL GO TO PORTILLOS.
My question to you guys is, What if I missed the sign? What I my kids dropped their french fries on the floor, I bend over to pick it up, and someone sees the gun?
You get the call, the complainant points me out from behind, you find me sitting in the restaurant peacefully, not even knowing why you're there. What do you do?
Do you arrest me or send me home?
Seriously, I want to know...I'm not trying to be an ass or stir up controversy, I just want to know, if it's in your discretion to arrest me or not, what would you do?
If you are not welcome with your legal concealed weapon in their establishment don't go there. If you do though, because soon it will be everywhere, you will not get arrested for it, I'm not even sure if there's an ANOV for it. They always have the right to ask you to leave, which I would do immediately.
Also remember that weapon is used to protect yourself and your family. If some scumbag decides to get stupid and stuck the place up while you're there let them and enjoy the show.
Another thing, don't leave your weapon locked up in your car, especially in the city. Thee are a lot of people watching what you do when you go back to your car or when you lean towards your glove box.
Just bring it in with you and tell your kids not to spill the fries.
Man, that VRI is worth it! So what if my kids no longer recognize me! At least I've got a new jet ski I can never use!
6/15/2014 11:02:00 AM
Get off this BS about VRI Kids wont recognize me because I work one extra 8 hr tour a week. Do you have any idea how many other po's work more than 8 hours OT or extra employment a week. Their families still recognize them. What if you go to the FOP golf outing and dinner and your gone for 12 hours Does the family still recognize you. You sound like an idiot with that statement and if you dont like VRI fine don't work,but the family thing is getting old.
Mr. SouthSide said...
023 still exists in the hearts and minds of men like me who invaded like the Vikings and had our way with their man-starved women.
OK d-bag. Why don't you keep pissing in the sink and and make more albino children with your cousin.
Happy Father's Day to even the in- bred fathers of the souf side
http://www.bnd.com/2014/06/15/3257929/gov-quinn-signs-law-banning-police.html
Something old with a new touch I guess. No quota on tickets and it cannot effect an officers performance evaluation.
When will you guys learn. The reason that there was NO crime on these routes is because of the "strategies" put in place by are Great boss McCarthy. Seeing that this worked starting on 7/1 ALL streets will now be one designated as "safe passage routes" that will bring ALL crime to a screeching halt everywhere in the city.
Hey if it works on the routes now, why shouldn't it work every where else.
I applaud your logic but Rahm would never let that happen.
He's in full blown pander mode to the ghetto communities with his re-election coming up.He'll do anything and everything to try and "buy" their votes.
McFailure runs CompStat and he holds the magic eraser so as long as Napolean and McFailure are around there will never, ever be a recorded incident along a Safe Passage route.
Don't forget it's all legit!
I had to shake my head the other day... Shots fired from a vehicle and bad guy tosses the gun and K9 was not allowed to leave their safe passage fixed post to help locate the weapon.
OT:
This from Tribune's website:
Quinn signs bill banning police ticket quota
Does this mean bosses can no longer threaten, admonish etc. us for lack of ticket activity?
Oh wait I forgot CPD has historically said there are no quotas..... yeah right.
Since CPD calls them "indexes" not "quotas" they'll say Quinn's law doesn't apply.
Seriously, I want to know...I'm not trying to be an ass or stir up controversy, I just want to know, if it's in your discretion to arrest me or not, what would you do?
6/15/2014 09:28:00 AM
If you are a gentleman with your family, I ignore you. If you are a jackass with a mouth, I find out what you are doing with the pistol. But I am not every cop. There are plenty of tools that will whack you no matter what.
Take your chances and protect your family Be a good person with good manners. Chances are slim we ever meet.
6/15/2014 09:28:00 AM......I would buy you an extra beef sandwich and talk to the owner to smooth it out!!! God Bless you!!!
THAT IS MY LAST TIME I WILL GO TO PORTILLOS.
My question to you guys is, What if I missed the sign? What I my kids dropped their french fries on the floor, I bend over to pick it up, and someone sees the gun?
You get the call, the complainant points me out from behind, you find me sitting in the restaurant peacefully, not even knowing why you're there. What do you do?
Do you arrest me or send me home?
"....Seriously, I want to know...I'm not trying to be an ass or stir up controversy, I just want to know, if it's in your discretion to arrest me or not, what would you do?"
I'd say don't bend over-leave the fries on the floor-not like she can eat them anyway...
You get the call, the complainant points me out from behind, you find me sitting in the restaurant peacefully, not even knowing why you're there. What do you do?
Do you arrest me or send me home?
Seriously, I want to know...I'm not trying to be an ass or stir up controversy, I just want to know, if it's in your discretion to arrest me or not, what would you do?
6/15/2014 09:28:00 AM
There's still the question of 'intent'. If you tell me you never saw the sign, I'm probably going to believe you. Others may not feel the same way.
Off Topic.... but does this new law mean the VRI requirements are no longer necessary?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-quinn-signs-into-law-bill-banning-police-ticket-quota-20140615,0,6879040.story
Game changer.
Quinn signs into law bill banning police ticket quota
The answer to the manpower question has always been in the police.
Don't work voluntary overtime, it's as easy as that. Our own greed is the problem.
Mayor Weasel would have no choice but to hire more officers if only we didn't work voluntary overtime.
Who was it that said, "It takes a village."
Oh yeah, now I remember , the next POTUS!!!!!
019/23 is accurate. The 023RD side runs the District and places the 019TH side in "Red Headed Step-child" status. There's POs in fast district that really want in a Northside District, but take a good look at the last 3 to 4 periods and ull notice more than 30 vacancies we're posted. Even Sgts and Lts R bidding out of that sinking ship. This can B traced back directly to Mike Ryan. I hope that the good folks in 024 aren't dealing w/Napleon's much slower little brother "Iron Mike." This person can truly screw up a watch, a district, and the rudimentary words in the English language.
C/O Voulgaris is allowing kids w/no X on call their own shots. The 1st watch is run by a woman that has a striking resemblance to a boxer in the "Mike Tyson's Punch Out." Bald Bull and her side kick, Roller Girl, command the sheets in 023 destroying any potential for a system of checks and balances. Y wood some1 stay there to B treated like there working in a "Brave New World." If you're an Alpha U don't speak to Betas and most certainly anything below that in this highly elitist form of Mediterranean Management.
Can't wait 2 get out of this modern day Titanic.
U must be a somewhat graduate of CPS with your spelling and English capabilities. Ryan has been gone a long time. Get over your own anger.
Anonymous said... Safe Passage is what is wrong with the black community. Parents not walking their kids to school when there is a threat of violence. Sending police, fire, streets and san, etc. to make sure their kids get to school safe. They should be ashamed of themselves, but...
6/15/2014 08:12:00 AM
How would a parent walking their child to school stop a shooting for instance, like the police would? Not making excuses, but...
Your doesn't really make sense to me.
>>>Anonymous said...
The answer to the manpower question has always been in the police.
Don't work voluntary overtime, it's as easy as that. Our own greed is the problem.
Mayor Weasel would have no choice but to hire more officers if only we didn't work voluntary overtime.
6/15/2014 09:51:00 PM<<<
If it were only that simple...
Mayor Weasel (and that is an insult to weasels everywhere) would cancel more days off for Tact Teams and put more civilians in jobs which should be handled by police officers.
He will order more falsifications on crime reports and stats to hide real crime.
He will replace police with more armed guards from campaign contributors and get kickbacks from them.
More cameras and speed traps to replace police issued tickets.
We need to replace he weasel.
So Register nd VOTE.
FOP, PB&PA and IAFF should announce ....
THE BLUE VOTE CAMPAIGN.
Every cop, fireman, teacher and other city worked plus their families and friends will be registered AND WILL VOTE IN THE NEXT ELECTION.
6/15/2014 09:28:00 AM
#1) You are too stupid to carry a gun.
#2) Seriously, refer to #1.
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Don't be an asshole, you fuckin' cocksucker. The guy was asking a legitimate question. And to guy asking the question, the best answer was the one that started off with....."Screw the sign - it's a misdemeanor if you don't leave when asked..."
Off Topic.... but does this new law mean the VRI requirements are no longer necessary?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-quinn-signs-into-law-bill-banning-police-ticket-quota-20140615,0,6879040.story
6/15/2014 08:24:00 PM
It's not a quota cry baby, it's a minimum requirement to work a special employment. So go back to crying how people that work it are scabs
So the shooting on 16th/Avers a couple weeks ago RIGHT OUTSIDE of the elementary school doors as the kids are leaving school doesn't count as a violent crime I take it? Or the shooting at 15th/Tripp RIGHT BELOW a safe passage sign next to an elementary school during school hours doesn't count? Shall I pull the RDs Mr Reporter man??? Fkin idiots.
Man, that VRI is worth it! So what if my kids no longer recognize me! At least I've got a new jet ski I can never use!
6/15/2014 11:02:00 AM
Get off this BS about VRI Kids wont recognize me because I work one extra 8 hr tour a week. Do you have any idea how many other po's work more than 8 hours OT or extra employment a week. Their families still recognize them. What if you go to the FOP golf outing and dinner and your gone for 12 hours Does the family still recognize you. You sound like an idiot with that statement and if you dont like VRI fine don't work,but the family thing is getting old.
Live within your means, moron.
DEATH PASSAGE We call it at OEMC
You get the call, the complainant points me out from behind, you find me sitting in the restaurant peacefully, not even knowing why you're there. What do you do?
Do you arrest me or send me home?
Seriously, I want to know...I'm not trying to be an ass or stir up controversy, I just want to know, if it's in your discretion to arrest me or not, what would you do?
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Finally, an honest, fair question. I am a retired police officer and qualified to carry concealed. We are still governed by the same carry concealed restrictions of Illinois law. Please don't say we are not. Read the Federal legislation. We are permitted to carry subject to each State's restrictions. Here's my take on this question. If the owner/manager/customer calls he police and is insistent that an arrest be made, you as a police officer will have no choice but to do your job. However, if no cares about prosecution, then ask that person to leave. Compliance with this request is assumed here otherwise someone is going to jail. I would hope that all parties would use common sense but that may be asking too much.
My opinion not that it matters, but I work that special and it helped put my kids through school and now they. It's graduated from prestigious colleges, and gig decent jobs, so now I'm not working vri, letting some of the less senior coppers make some cash to help their families, next year I will retire 29 and a day, 56 years old, this extra also helped deferred comp, have 500k not a lot but some, can draw 1300 a month without bothering principle, get pension healthcare, to the young coppers make sure you put into deferred while your work special, because when it ends nod it will, it's nice to have something for retirement!
You sound like an idiot with that statement and if you dont like VRI fine don't work,but the family thing is getting old.
6/15/2014 04:54:00 PM
EXACTLY!!! If the family thing is getting old, get divorced and work more VRI.
Game changer.
Quinn signs into law bill banning police ticket quota
6/15/2014 09:41:00 PM
No game changer. If CPD abides by the law, the watch will just put up an additional traffic car who will be more than happy to write the tickets that the beat guys wont be required to write.
Get off this BS about VRI Kids wont recognize me because I work one extra 8 hr tour a week. Do you have any idea how many other po's work more than 8 hours OT or extra employment a week. Their families still recognize them. What if you go to the FOP golf outing and dinner and your gone for 12 hours Does the family still recognize you. You sound like an idiot with that statement and if you dont like VRI fine don't work,but the family thing is getting old.
Live within your means, moron.
Never have and never will work VRI. You missed the whole point of the comment which was dont blame VRI for family not recognizing you. Po's are gone for over 8 hours all the time,golfing,fishing,out with the boys,etc and no one is saying the kids won't recognize them because of that,moron.
There are armed off duty coppers working security in Portillos every day Guns visible, Coppers go in for lunch every day guns visible,fuck their sign.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said... Safe Passage is what is wrong with the black community. Parents not walking their kids to school when there is a threat of violence. Sending police, fire, streets and san, etc. to make sure their kids get to school safe. They should be ashamed of themselves, but...
6/15/2014 08:12:00 AM
How would a parent walking their child to school stop a shooting for instance, like the police would? Not making excuses, but...
Your doesn't really make sense to me.
6/15/2014 11:06:00 PM
How does a streets and san worker, or a fireman, stop a shooting, either? Plus, their presence on safe passage routes pulls them away from the jobs they're SUPPOSED to be doing. The jobs they are PAID to do.
The point is, a physical presence makes a difference, so that physical presence should be the parents who are home, collecting a check for doing nothing.
Man, that VRI is worth it! So what if my kids no longer recognize me! At least I've got a new jet ski I can never use!
6/15/2014 11:02:00 AM
Get off this BS about VRI Kids wont recognize me because I work one extra 8 hr tour a week. Do you have any idea how many other po's work more than 8 hours OT or extra employment a week. Their families still recognize them. What if you go to the FOP golf outing and dinner and your gone for 12 hours Does the family still recognize you. You sound like an idiot with that statement and if you dont like VRI fine don't work,but the family thing is getting old.
Live within your means, moron.
6/16/2014 03:41:00 AM
I do fuckhead. I have no bills beyond a mortgage, I would ask you, but I truly don't give a fuck.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So the shooting on 16th/Avers a couple weeks ago RIGHT OUTSIDE of the elementary school doors as the kids are leaving school doesn't count as a violent crime I take it? Or the shooting at 15th/Tripp RIGHT BELOW a safe passage sign next to an elementary school during school hours doesn't count? Shall I pull the RDs Mr Reporter man??? Fkin idiots.
6/16/2014 12:01:00 AM
Absolutely....and post then for the world so they can see for themselves. Couldn't hurt.
A merit hack will always be a hack; an ass kissing will always kiss ass; a back stabber will continue stabbing everyone in the back. No one has to be SERPICO or SUPER COP just do your job and earn your pay. And for all you dog asses they should round you up and take you to the pound. there is no room for dogs and if you got less than 15 years on the job you got nothing to complain about. and for you boss licking do nothing you reap what you sew.
There was plenty of crime beiong done on several of the "safe Passages" routes. The problem is the street gang, the Hoboes have figured out all they have to do is demand money and then run while yelling "throw the money to me." This way you do not know their name or address and sometimes can not even give a description of the low life. This also does not get a report or included in the crime stats.
Anonymous said...
6/15/2014 09:28:00 AM
#1) You are too stupid to carry a gun.
#2) Seriously, refer to #1.
...........
Really? based on this response, let me guess, you're single and bitter about everything and everyone. Or I bet you're divorced and your kids hate you.
Get some help man. Life doesn't have to be this way.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
As a rule, the officers in 019/023 are a bunch of climbers and boss ass kissers anyway. Look at the illustrious careers of Barbie doll, her daughter baby Barbie, and bb too.
6/15/2014 04:24:00 PM
Don't forget 018 and 001 and 024 and 016 and 020 as well.
My opinion not that it matters, but I work that special and it helped put my kids through school and now they. It's graduated from prestigious colleges, and gig decent jobs, so now I'm not working vri, letting some of the less senior coppers make some cash to help their families, next year I will retire 29 and a day, 56 years old, this extra also helped deferred comp, have 500k not a lot but some, can draw 1300 a month without bothering principle, get pension healthcare, to the young coppers make sure you put into deferred while your work special, because when it ends nod it will, it's nice to have something for retirement!
Sounds like you did it right and good luck. I basically did the same and have been retired for over seven years. What is funny is that most of my retired friends did the same, but none have taken the deferred out. Seems like the guys that prepared for retirement also had other investments,stock market, stuff like that. Only the few that hit 70 1/2 that were forced to take deferred did and that was the minimum over 27 years. Yea they say we have 27 years left.
How does a streets and san worker, or a fireman, stop a shooting, either? Plus, their presence on safe passage routes pulls them away from the jobs they're SUPPOSED to be doing. The jobs they are PAID to do.
The point is, a physical presence makes a difference, so that physical presence should be the parents who are home, collecting a check for doing nothing.
6/16/2014 10:48:00 AM
A streets and san nor fireman can stop a shooting, from a "physical presence" stande point. So that brings me back to my question, How would a parent simply taking their child to school do it? Children are shot with their parents all the time in Chicago, as evident from holiday party, bbq's, gatherings, etc. where kids are shot. But I doubt to many, if any children are shot in front of Chicago police officers.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How does a streets and san worker, or a fireman, stop a shooting, either? Plus, their presence on safe passage routes pulls them away from the jobs they're SUPPOSED to be doing. The jobs they are PAID to do.
The point is, a physical presence makes a difference, so that physical presence should be the parents who are home, collecting a check for doing nothing.
6/16/2014 10:48:00 AM
A streets and san nor fireman can stop a shooting, from a "physical presence" stande point. So that brings me back to my question, How would a parent simply taking their child to school do it? Children are shot with their parents all the time in Chicago, as evident from holiday party, bbq's, gatherings, etc. where kids are shot. But I doubt to many, if any children are shot in front of Chicago police officers.
6/17/2014 12:32:00 AM
You don't grasp the concept, because it involves a whole spectrum of sociological issues. And I don't have enough time - or interest - to explain the concepts of parental, familial and peer responsibility.
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