Rauner the Reform Candidate
- Gov. Pat Quinn has spent a political lifetime fine-tuning his image as a government reformer, but a new Early and Often Poll shows Republican Bruce Rauner may have wrested that mantle away from the governor.
The incumbent Chicago Democrat also has spent months trying to portray the multimillionaire private equity investor from Winnetka as an out-of-touch “billionaire,” yet voters in Illinois appear evenly split about which gubernatorial candidate best understands their everyday concerns.
And while Quinn again finds himself down by double digits in this latest poll by We Ask America, Illinoisans gave a decisive nod to Quinn running mate Paul Vallas over Republican Evelyn Sanguinetti as the best qualified lieutenant governor candidate to take over in the event of an emergency.
This is especially eye-opening in that the Tribune and Sun Times are running a concerted effort to paint Rauner as an evil, money-hungry billionaire. It doesn't seem to be working - people see him as successful.
We've got the regular trolls who keep whining about how Rauner is all about destroying pensions and well all be penniless if he wins. They don't seem to have noticed that Quinn, Madigan and Company are already destroying the pensions via legislative action and a stalled effort in the courts. Why leave them in there to keep doing it? They've lied at every turn and will most likely continue down that path.
Rauner and the republicans aren't going to win both houses in Springfield - they probably won't even win one. Put Rauner in there and have Springfield stall out for a session or two. Springfield gridlock is a win as far as we're concerned.
Too bad Quinn has co-opted Vallas though. That guy had credibility until he bought into the Combine politics of Illinois.
We've got the regular trolls who keep whining about how Rauner is all about destroying pensions and well all be penniless if he wins. They don't seem to have noticed that Quinn, Madigan and Company are already destroying the pensions via legislative action and a stalled effort in the courts. Why leave them in there to keep doing it? They've lied at every turn and will most likely continue down that path.
Rauner and the republicans aren't going to win both houses in Springfield - they probably won't even win one. Put Rauner in there and have Springfield stall out for a session or two. Springfield gridlock is a win as far as we're concerned.
Too bad Quinn has co-opted Vallas though. That guy had credibility until he bought into the Combine politics of Illinois.
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Rauner and Rahm are good buddies and could do a lot of damage together. Quinn sucks but he doesn't get along with Rahm. Call it what you want but we are in a union. Rauner hates unions.
Rauner's latest ad says 'no taxing social security, not ever'. But he does NOT say 'no taxing pensions'.
Now is the time to exact that promise from him. 'Later' will be too late.
Rauner and Rahm are buddies. Rauner is the same type of reformer as Rahm. Rauner is the combine candidate. Look at Rauner's previous political donations. Most have been to democrats. Blagojevich was a "republican." He was also a mob bookie who married the daughter of a very powerful illinois democrat politician. He was the combine candidate until he began biting the hand that fed him. Not a troll.
Agreed that Rauner will cause bottlenecks in Legislature. SSDD. While I have great distaste for Quinn, no way does Rauner have our best interests at heart. Is there a Third choice?
Just remember Rauner is a good friend of Rahm. He is a democrat running on a republican ticket. I agree Quinn is worthless, but Rauner is evil and I do not read the sun-times or the tribune. Some times the devil you know is better then the devil you don't. Do we really need billioniare in a public office ?
"Springfield gridlock is a win as far as we're concerned."
Amen! The less politicians do the better off the people are.
Either way we are fucked.
Quinn will lead us down a hole we will never be able to crawl out of.
Rauner in a 2013 speech to downstate Republicans. "I may have to take a strike and shut down government for a few weeks and kinda redo everybody's contract. That's a possibility...I'll do it.
Maybe if Rham gets reelected he'll do the same thing. I'm sure you guys and girls wouldn't mind losing that uniform allowance and shift differential or maybe a few less vacation days to help a senior pay the taxes on his bungalow.
Every time I see Rauner, I think of "Barney Heffner", Archie Bunkers friend from All In The Family.
I'm going to whine some more then, SCC - Rauner will eliminate our pension fund because 1) that's what big business wants, and 2) that's what his BFF Rahm wants.
I'm not a Quinn guy, but you'd better wise up and quit carrying water for this scoundrel Rauner. I'll take my chances with Quinn.
Scc two great articles in a row.
I prefer when you write more in your articles its alot more informative.
Thanks.
Quinn was handed a golden opportunity to create a positive change in Illinois when he took over after Blago's conviction.
Instead, he squandered it. Illinois is now the perfect example to the other 49 of "don't be like that."
Rauner is not Quinn. 'Nuff said.
better stick with Quinn....Rahm and Rauner could be dangerous...
Illinois teachers' unions came out against Rauner.
In fact, Illinois' unionized teachers hate Rauner so much that they gave Rauner their pension money to invest.
What did Rauner do to these people who hate him so much? He earned them close 20% return on average.
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130406/ISSUE01/304069983/rauners-love-hate-relationship-with-pension-funds#
Rauner understands how money works. He is the only candidate who can start to fix this state.
Walker undid the damage in Wisconsin and Snyder did it in Michigan.
Rauner will be able to do some good things by executive action. The democrats can't get upset at this because Obama has been doing it. And, Rauner will expose some of the hijinks going on down there.
I'm sorry, Potato head should have never been elected as governor. He was lieutenant governor under Blago and he knew nothing. Still knows nothing!
Anonymous said...
Just remember Rauner is a good friend of Rahm. He is a democrat running on a republican ticket. I agree Quinn is worthless, but Rauner is evil and I do not read the sun-times or the tribune. Some times the devil you know is better then the devil you don't. Do we really need billioniare in a public office ?
8/11/2014 01:33:00 AM
Stop playing class politics. Who cares how much money Rauner has.Using your logic, we should elect a homeless person as they would be the most effective.
Not a fan of either candidate, but just something to consider. Rauner mentioned giving municipalities home rule when it comes to pensions at the state FOP Conference.
Remember the real enemies to our civilization are DEMOCRATZ ie Durbin, Madigan etc. Don't be fooled by those posts from Quinn's boyfriend.
I won't vote for Quinn. I can't vote for democrats. We should let a successful businessman try to run the state. Many people have regrets about voting for Obama instead of Romney. Get rid of these democratic politicians who have never done anything except run for office. Remember, Cullerton already tried to tax our pensions and failed.
Rauner invests one million of his own money in a Black owned credit union to garner some votes in the Blacks neighborhoods and Quinn says it's corrupt. Quinn on the other hand gives fifty-five million of taxpayer money to the revruns and father flakey to buy votes and it's just politics as usual!
Me, I'll take Rauner.
Quinn is a jellyfish and is such in the hands of Madigan, Cullerton and Rahm. If he is elected he will destroy what is left of the city, police dept, and our pensions, for sure. Rauner dosen't need to kiss any Madigan ass.
None of these politicians have "our best interests at heart". It's the lesser of two evils at this point. Quinn had a chance and look where we are at. He's been voted worst governor in the US. I'll vote for anybody else at this point. Enough is enough.
PS: Very disappointed in Paul Vallas. I thought he had better sense than to hook up with that crew.
Rauner may be tiny dancers buddy but, the little shit won't get re-elected.
Rauner has stated that public employees, should be in 401K's. Rauner, should run for governor of the Cayman Islands, where he keeps his money, to avoid paying Illinois taxes.
Scc, I said it before but never to you. I just don't get why some cops will blindly follow republican leaders. I'm just as disgusted with Quinn and this state, but for the love of pete. Bruce will be the end of any retirement anyone one in this state has. He will try and roll everything into private 401 k style, all the while making millions on interest as his investment companies are given the task. He is shady. Anyone who has to dump 10million of his own money into his own campaign stands to gain something greater. Its that simple. You have to remember how extreme his views are based off his republican primary race. He embodies everything that is wrong with capitalism. There is no room for patriotism or understanding for your average blue collar middle class american. I don't believe in giving our money away to welfare culture and illegals either, but this man is bad for what is left of middle class in this state. I see many on here tell the citizens "you got the city you wanted" well, same will hold true for the public working middle class if this guy gets in. We need to get out of our own way.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just remember Rauner is a good friend of Rahm. He is a democrat running on a republican ticket. I agree Quinn is worthless, but Rauner is evil and I do not read the sun-times or the tribune. Some times the devil you know is better then the devil you don't. Do we really need billioniare in a public office ?
8/11/2014 01:33:00 AM
Oh, you mean when just an ordinary multi-millionaire incumbent will do?
Rahm the Reformer. How's that working out?
Does anyone really believe Rauner will reform the Illinois pension system or just manipulate the figures?
Rauner is cut and run operator.
Dump Rahm first and only then will Illinois be better off.
He will tax your pension. That is how they will get around the constitution. You will pay part of your pension to offset the state deficit.everybody will be in agreement. Phat phil with his $170k annual pension will be the poster boy. The citizen will say, "tax the fat pig."
Anon said:
We've got the regular trolls who keep whining about how Rauner is all about destroying pensions and well all be penniless if he wins.
Shit, we will be lucky if any of us have any pennies after Rahm is through with us. 300% assesment increase on my house. Ha Ha, Rahm doesn't know the thing is falling down.
Airborne All the Way!
Do we really need billioniare in a public office ?
8/11/2014 01:33:00 AM
Here's a question to all you morons who hate Rauner because he's a billionaire - If you won the Powerball tomorrow, would you keep the money?
We all know the answer, so stuff your hypocritical attitude up your big fat jealous butt.
And PLEASE, stop all the whining about Rauner being a friend of Rahm. You don't know that for a fact, and if so, who cares? If you think Quinn is a better choice, you definitely ate too much lead paint as a child.
And PLEASE, stop babbling about your pensions. Clowns on here who cry and cry about their pensions are weak-minded Democrats.
Want your pension picture to improve? The economy's got to pick up first! Illinois is in trouble because companies and people are leaving the state. How can you blame them with a potatohead as Governor?
The stupidity in Illinois is overwhelming. I would insult people who vote Democrat but they are too ignorant to insult.
This is a longer read, but truly the way of privatization first health-care, now education, next police and fire. Go ahead and vote for Bruce. Your cutting your own throats and playing right into the hands of political parties both red and blue.
http://www.aaup.org/article/when-billionaires-become-educational-experts#.U-jtAlko7Jt
We are fucked either way
(OT) Clinton for president no how no way the real granny sure she would scare Putin lol!
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8/11/2014 -- 01:33:00 AM || Anonymous said... "Rauner is evil ... Do we really need billioniare in a public office ?"
Rauner is Evil? WTF...are you serious, sheesh. However, if anyone or group is "evil" it's Potato-Head and the cabal of IL democRATs, for what they've done to IL and want to CONTINUE doing.
And what *exactly* is wrong with a billionaire, or anyone's who is 'Rich', being Governor?
--- In case you haven't figured it out yet a rich person won't be worrying about who he has to pay off with contracts and favors so he can get a do-nothing job when they get booted from office. And they won't be drooling at "A gold Mine" of any vacant senate seat like Blago did. Nor will a rich person have to pander to Special Interest Groups like LaRaza, the NAACP, etc for that all important thing called: 'MONEY'. And last but not least a 'Rich' person won't have to worry over which ass he's kissed on his way up through the party and owes favors he has to repay. ---
Sooooooo, do we need a 'billionaire in a public office' -- versus a career politician, and an inept one at that -- YEAH, you're goddamn right we do!
***** an aside: I don't know where all this 'Hate The Rich' bullshit comes from. Last I looked this is fucking America where WE ALL have the opportunity to become 'Rich'. And NOT some Communist fucking hellhole where 'The Rich' get exterminated and all assets confiscated. If that's your idea of paradise try North Korea, Cambodia, or Cuba -- 'Comrade'. *****
I was listening to the radio and the were interviewing a republican, might have been Jim Durkin, who said that Quinn had changed his position on pension "reform" SIX(6)times in ONE(1) day.
I'm voting straight republican and NO to every judge.
"Rauner's latest ad says 'no taxing social security, not ever'. But he does NOT say 'no taxing pensions'.
Now is the time to exact that promise from him. 'Later' will be too late"
Anybody pulling a pension that's stupid enough to stay in Illinois deserves to be f_cked
Why would anyone want potatohead back? Look at what he has done over the years it is sickening and now he wants to have as many illegals as any state. He does not care about the welfare of this state and he already is against our pensions. All the politicians here are against it anyway. Rauner is lesser of two evils.
Please vote! Your vote counts!
Disagree on this one SCC.
Springfield will not grind down in gridlock with Rauner as governor. He is the combine candidate this time and will make deals with Madigan for their mutual benefit.
The only people in Illinois that will feel "reform" will be us.
They will destroy the unions at Rahm's behest and gut the pensions.
Illinois' permanent underclass will experience zero cuts and illegal aliens will continue to be welcomed.
Quinn will be fairer when dealing with us.
"Do we really need a billionaire I office?"
No, let's keep the blood sucking politicians that have never had a real job in there. Let's keep these thieves that have made their personal millions off of our taxes. Let's keep the leaches that put their family and friends into made up jobs so they can make their millions off our taxes too. Let's keep these same criminals in that have mismanaged and stolen countless billions of our tax dollars for asinine programs that enrich themselves.
Let's NOT put someone in there that doesn't need to steal OUR money. That would be stupid.
"Do we really need billioniare in a public office ?"
I don't understand this thinking at all. As if a billionaire isn't a human being.
If nothing else, being a billionaire shows a certain level of competence. That's more than I've ever seen from Quinn.
Anonymous said...
Not a fan of either candidate, but just something to consider. Rauner mentioned giving municipalities home rule when it comes to pensions at the state FOP Conference.
8/11/2014 08:09:00 AM
And what do you think Rahm Emanuel will do to our pensions if he gets the chance to make it go his way?
Go vote for Rauner and find out you fucking dummy.
Thanks to governor and rahm went down to champaign yesterday running 80-90 all the way no troopers protecting the highways but they are protecting the animals great job goofs!
Anonymous said...
Rauner's latest ad says 'no taxing social security, not ever'. But he does NOT say 'no taxing pensions'.
Now is the time to exact that promise from him. 'Later' will be too late.
8/11/2014 12:17:00 AM
A politicians promise doesn't mean shit. They lie. Have you not caught on to that yet?
Rauner said we will have a pension. Good enough for me, has my vote. Quinn and co. has already started to change the pension, besides, at the rate we are going, if this state goes belly up by dems, there won't be any money.
Aren't a bunch of you guys married to teachers? So that's their pensions and yours on the line. You do know where Quinn stands on pensions because he signed the bill. You do know that Rauner criticized that bill and says he would offer something different, but it isn't clear whether he'd roll it all into 401ks or exactly what he'd do. Tribune did a pretty good job, a few weeks ago, of explaining how Rauner hasn't committed himself to any pension reform plan and has said he will do so "in due time." Finally, you know he has ramped up the rhetoric on how he will stand up to "the union bosses."
Just my own personal opinion, not a police person's: The enemy you know on pensions is a whole lot preferable to the enemy you don't know.
Anyone else having problems with Perscription drug coverage by their PPo plan?? My kids sick and dr perscribed antibiotic. Walgreens said that insurance won't cover anymore until the doctor submitts to them paperwork of why antibiotics are needed. Then blue cross makes their decision in up to 72 hours. Wtf is going on?? Same thing happened to a family member on city plan last week. Took 3 days to get important Perscription filled. Kids got a screaming ear infection. Are we on obamacare now??? Any help appreciated.
SCC, you are correct.
After Rauner wins, gridlock will be a victory.
Rauner made Rahm very wealthy after Rahm was launched from the Clinton administration. Quinn , although for Pension reform, will F**k you less hard!
8:11, 6:38 AM:Hit it on the head ,no matter what party is in control, Middle Class are F**ked !
better stick with Quinn....Rahm and Rauner could be dangerous...
8/11/2014 07:53:00 AM
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More crack-pipe logic.
Dangerous? Figure it out. Rauner knows how to make money - Quinn only knows how to tax money.
As far as who is going to "tax your pension" it's inevitable.
Quinn will do it- he has to do something to shore up the mess the Democrats made.
Plus, anyone moving out of the state will be a target for an "out-of-state" pension tax. It is totally acceptable- you move out and spend your money somewhere else, you are not re-circulating it into the economy you made it in. Other states already have it.
So pay some back. Back to the state you earned it in.
PLUS - the whole big UNION argument of Cost-of-Living is a double-edged sword.
If you are living in a state that has a lower cost-of-living, you should send some money back to Illinois because in the 30 years you worked here- you had to get $40,000 instead of $32,000 because the "cost-of-living" is higher in Chicago. Same goes for $60,000 or $90,000- you get the picture.
So if you move to a cheaper state, you may have to give back even more.
Sound bad? Sounds like a great Democratic solution to solve the problem.
AND YOU KNOW WHY IT WILL WORK and Madigan will back it?
Because you are out-of-state, you have no recourse to vote anyone out because you are gone.
THAT is the perfect solution to all the shortfalls. You tax the out-of-staters who have NO vote in the state.
Great Democratic solutions. Keep voting Democrat, suckers.
To: "Let's NOT put someone in there that doesn't need to steal OUR money. That would be stupid."
And everyone else who thinks a millionaire won't steal money, or make money for buddies.
And to the person that asked the blog if you won the lottery would you keep it.
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You are the voting public that scares the shit out of me. I have 10 years on. The real question should be, if you won the lottery, would you continue being a civil servant, or take care of your family... ill wait for that answer. If you say yes, you are the most noble sob in Illinois and you may die of a heart attack trying to fight the entrenched political machine. If you say you would resign/retire, exactly correct. What is Bruce's motivation to run for office that he does not need to...? I doubt it is nobility.
I answered everyone else in my previous post, but to those that missed it, below is the highlight.
He will try and roll everything into private 401 k style, all the while making millions on interest as his investment companies are given the task. He is shady. Anyone who has to dump 10million of his own money into his own campaign stands to gain something greater.
"Took 3 days to get important Perscription filled. Kids got a screaming ear infection. Are we on obamacare now??? Any help appreciated"
Pay for the prescription, send the receipt to your Insurance for reimbursement. No brainer.
If you had Obamacare, the Insurance would have paid for it.
Voting is like flushing the toilet. You know you're gonna put a new turd in there sooner or later, but you don't leave a floater in there stinking until you do.
Anyone else having problems with Perscription drug coverage by their PPo plan?? My kids sick and dr perscribed antibiotic. Walgreens said that insurance won't cover anymore until the doctor submitts to them paperwork of why antibiotics are needed. Then blue cross makes their decision in up to 72 hours. Wtf is going on?? Same thing happened to a family member on city plan last week. Took 3 days to get important Perscription filled. Kids got a screaming ear infection. Are we on obamacare now??? Any help appreciated.
8/11/2014 07:08:00 PM
Drug companies across the US have shortages of common medications and special medications. Whether they are shorting supply to drive up costs is another story but that's why the layers of delay exist. You ave to really really need it before they give it out. No shortage of Viagra though. Go figure.
Doesn't even matter anymore who wins political office in this state. Illinois is so fucked financially, economically and socially that it will never recover; thus sentencing the citizens to more tax increases and an ever dysfunctional state.
“The two groups, I believe, that should have a special deal that’s much better and different than voters, are police and firefighters because they risk their lives, and that’s a different arrangement,” Rauner said. This is from an April 15th, 2014 article on WTTW's web site.
If he sticks to it and does not do a 180 on us, he has my vote over Quinn.
+1 for Rauner. People who say they hate Rauner have weird reasons. He's friends with the mayor, he's too rich, he lies, etc. I can say that about most of the politicians. I'm voting for Rauner.
This is the voting decision that I have made and my family agrees: if you are an incumbent politician you DO NOT get our vote. Our goal is to vote out everyone who is in office right now. Start new. I'll take my chances. Will probably be better than today.
He will try and roll everything into private 401 k style, all the while making millions on interest as his investment companies are given the task. He is shady. Anyone who has to dump 10million of his own money into his own campaign stands to gain something greater.
8/11/2014 08:43:00 PM
Do your research. If people had been allowed to invest their forced Social Security taxed contributions into a 401K, putting the money in a simple market-following index fund, those already retired would be getting almost three time the payout that they are getting from Social Security. But then again, I'm not a lazy moron who has to rely on potatoheads to manage my money!
Anonymous said...
I was listening to the radio and the were interviewing a republican, might have been Jim Durkin, who said that Quinn had changed his position on pension "reform" SIX(6)times in ONE(1) day.
I'm voting straight republican and NO to every judge.
8/11/2014 12:02:00 PM
So you would believe what one long time Illinois politician says about another, of the opposing party, during election season?
In that case I can teach you to flip houses and make an extra 15k a month. Just send me $1,500 and I will send you the package to guaranteed success.
I will also include a pamphlet of Miss Cleo's Greatest Predictions.
Anyone else having problems with Perscription drug coverage by their PPo plan?? My kids sick and dr perscribed antibiotic. Walgreens said that insurance won't cover anymore until the doctor submitts to them paperwork of why antibiotics are needed. Then blue cross makes their decision in up to 72 hours. Wtf is going on?? Same thing happened to a family member on city plan last week. Took 3 days to get important Perscription filled. Kids got a screaming ear infection. Are we on obamacare now??? Any help appreciated.
8/11/2014 07:08:00 PM
Drug companies across the US have shortages of common medications and special medications. Whether they are shorting supply to drive up costs is another story but that's why the layers of delay exist. You ave to really really need it before they give it out. No shortage of Viagra though. Go figure.
8/12/2014 01:04:00 AM
Walk across the street to Osco.
Anyone else having problems with Perscription drug coverage by their PPo plan?? My kids sick and dr perscribed antibiotic. Walgreens said that insurance won't cover anymore until the doctor submitts to them paperwork of why antibiotics are needed. Then blue cross makes their decision in up to 72 hours. Wtf is going on?? Same thing happened to a family member on city plan last week. Took 3 days to get important Perscription filled. Kids got a screaming ear infection. Are we on obamacare now??? Any help appreciated
Havent had any problems getting antobiotics for the kids. Have done it a few times in the last 6 months and everything was the same.
He will try and roll everything into private 401 k style, all the while making millions on interest as his investment companies are given the task. He is shady. Anyone who has to dump 10million of his own money into his own campaign stands to gain something greater.
He is no different than most politicians. They all spend plenty of money to get elected to an office than pays less than they can make in private industry.
As far as the 401k,would be hard to do if the city has to continue to match our contribution 2 to 1 They would have to put that money in every payday and they dont want to do that
401 would be a disaster if they did not match contributions.
Rauner said we will have a pension. Good enough for me
Phew...so you found a politician that doesn't lie.
Good job but I personally think Rauner is NO GOOD for us. Or anyone on or about to go on the Pension that you earned and deserve.
I'm voting for Rauner.
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Good for you all grown up. Stupid, but that is your right as well.
Also, to the poster that says police and fire are special because they risk their lives, I do, but in reality, nobody cares when it comes to money. Rauner is as full of shit as everyone else. Vote for him fine, but don't put yourself or him on a pedestal. Money talks. I bet they have a cure for cancer too, but like everything else, there ain't no money in the cure...
AND YOU KNOW WHY IT WILL WORK and Madigan will back it?
Because you are out-of-state, you have no recourse to vote anyone out because you are gone.
THAT is the perfect solution to all the shortfalls. You tax the out-of-staters who have NO vote in the state.
Great Democratic solutions. Keep voting Democrat, suckers.
8/11/2014 08:07:00 PM
You do not pay taxes to where you used to live. If that were true, then send Chicago money for that Chicago City Sticker which you can proudly display in Arkansas.
Great Piece , SCC, Quinn has Zero Credibility. Lets get Rauner in and hope for the best. If not, Illinois IS sunk.
To those of you worried about your pension if Rauner is elected... Have you been asleep the last 15 years? Your pension hasn't been safe since the pols started using the money for other purposes. Things went downhill especially quickly under Blago. Quinn has had five years to deal with the mess and he's done jack shit. Re-elect him for another four and there's not going to be any way the City of Chicago or Illinois digs out of the hole. Pension default becomes more likely every day Quinn does nothing. If that happens, you really will get nothing. At least Rauner acknowledges the problem. Potato Head thinks we're all too stupid to know what's really going on. Of course, if he somehow gets re-elected, he's probably right to think that.
Rauner has stated that public employees, should be in 401K's. Rauner, should run for governor of the Cayman Islands, where he keeps his money, to avoid paying Illinois taxes.
8/11/2014 09:13:00 AM
AND, if it's Legal, who can blame him for being smart, business-wise ? You don't think the Daleys, Madigans, Durbins, Pelosi's, Reid's, Clintons don't do the same ? Dumb-Ass.
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