Bad to Worse
These numbers are appalling:
- Chicago’s unfunded pension obligations have ballooned to $37.3 billion — a more than three-fold increase since 2003 — because of inadequate employer contributions, declining investment income and a shrinking base of active employees, a taxpayers’ watchdog group has concluded.
The Civic Federation’s latest report on the sorry state of the Chicago area’s 10 public employee pension funds does not factor in a Chicago pension reform bill signed by Gov. Pat Quinn that saved the Municipal Employees and Laborers pension funds.
But Civic Federation President Laurence Msall said the report nevertheless underscores the need for Mayor Rahm Emanuel and police and fire union leaders to forge an agreement on pension reforms and for the Illinois General Assembly to approve it during the fall veto session.
- Government employees did their part by contributing the required portion of their paychecks to their future pensions. But the government contribution fell nearly $2 billion short of the $2.8 billion required to cover costs and reduce a portion of unfunded liabilities over a 30-year time frame, the report concludes.
Investment income didn’t help. And the future outlook is bleak, thanks to a “declining ratio” of active employees to beneficiaries.
In 2012, the 10 funds had 1.11 active employees for every retiree, down from a 1.55 ratio a decade ago. The police, laborers, Metropolitan Water Reclamation District, Forest Preserve and CTA funds all had more beneficiaries than active employees in 2012.
Counting statewide funds, the pension liability amounts to $19,579 for every Chicago resident.
Labels: pension, un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
169 Comments:
And there's not a thing we can do to get rid of these crooked, career politicians because they keep getting re-elected, or don't even get elected at all (that's the conspiracy theorist in me that thinks Rahm's "election" was completely fixed).
We would have been better off contributing to individual 401K accounts. Never trust politicians and least of all the democrat varity.
Don't forget former mayor daley's nephew who lost a bunch of our money in b.s. investments:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/10659007-418/why-city-pension-funds-want-firm-with-daley-links-out.html#.VC4wJPldWSo
But their investments were so bad that they needed a federal judge's permission to fire's daley's nephew's firm:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/14558496-418/ax-for-pension-adviser.html#.VC4wK_ldWSo
So in spite of all this, whatever happened to the "joint city-federal probe" of the b.s. firm set up to invest our money?
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2009-06-12/news/0906120001_1_pension-fund-pension-board-nephew
AND STILL no answer from City Hall on when they will find the money to pay their share of the pension fund? How about TIF money Mr Mayor??
Chicago Skyway, Grant Park parking, parking meters are gone. No revenue stream to be seen for 100 years. ROT in hell Daley.
The crux of this is 'due to insufficient employer contributions'. If half the money that's SUPPOSED to be contributed isn't contributed, that leaves half as much money to invest, and it results in half as much investment income as there should be.
Stalling on paying that money into the fund only worsens the situation. The sooner it's put in, the faster the fund recovers. You can't get investment RETURNS unless there's some money to invest. This isn't a difficult concept. Emanuel is deliberately making the situation worse, when it doesn't need to be.
Off Topic but how many people from Englewood showed up at this fundraiser, where POTUS talks about "income inequality" to people who paid $50,000 per dinner plate to hear him speak and give money to Quinn who wants to take pension money from people who work and give it to those who do not and will not work, and to connected friends (not always in that order though).
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/chi-obama-to-raise-money-for-quinn-speak-at-northwestern-20141001-story.html
Remember we were to receive a 3 % cola and now it's 1.5% that equates to thousands of dollars already cut from our pensions and the politicians hope we forget and let them cut more money from our pensions in the name of reform. Stop the bullshit, the funds are there. Rahm has to stop wasting money on unnecessary projects, and so does Quinn. Can we get an exact amount of how much Rahm spent on projects for the time he has been in office? Now the aldermen want reparations. No! It's our money, taxpayers. We should vote on these reparations and beautification projects. I vote NO.
Here's an idea cut the aldermen in half and use the savings for reparations, do you think they will agree? They should. It's called put your money where your mouth is.
The city was counting on us to make our payments so they wouldn't have to make theirs! This is criminal in nature but who is going to enforce it? I hate politicians with a passion!
They run off with the money scott free while pitting the taxpayers against the public pension holders.
Divide and conquer baby.
Just about every speech that comes out of their mouths lately is about creating more division of the people.
Black against white. Gay against straight. Libs vs Cons. Driving a wedge between us all with non-stop speeches on how we're different.
When was the last time you heard them speak AND act on our commonalities eh?
Yeah, watch out for that person over there, they're different and wanna take your stuff.
But look who's walking away with the gold while the ignorant masses fight and blame each other.
EBOLA
However Ebola will fix everything.
Ebola could wipe out billions of dollarsw in pension obligations. Wipe out the trillions of dollars in social security obligations.
Man look at all the money that will be freed up when those debt obligations disappear because half of us are dead.
The best part is that they can march up to the podium with alligator tears in their eyes and speak of how this was a horrible nature disaster and that nothing could of been done about.
Did you see the press conference with Gov Perry on the Ebola patient in Texas?
An effin joke of lies and deception.
The CDC and politicians blew every protocol. Then tell us how well it's all working and dodge meaningful questions.
This is either the plan or the most incompetent leadership in my entire lifetime.
Reps and Dems, libs and cons, take your pick it doesn't matter -- all of them -- because I don't see anyone legitimately outraged. there's just dog and pony shows like a crime is down press conference.
The T.I.F. Funds are nothing more then "The Skim" off of our tax dollars.
We'll keep electing these jag offs, the likes of Madigan cullerton, Daley, Emil jones .......
Isn't there one fricking attorney that can challenge the fiduciary responsibility that these politicians are suppose to be responsible for.
No problemo.
Just ask Detroit.
And all you goofs that plan on voting "yes" for the proposed contract STILL don't see what that "reopener" really does.
It shows that the FLOP is willing to entertain allowing pension language (State) and collective bargaining (City) issues to be combined. If this contract passes, it will give the city the 'foot in the door' it needs to show that FLOP is willing to make concessions to promised pension structure for God knows what.
What's trying to be crammed down our throats as a harmless and 'beneficial' means to try and recoup eventual increases to our pension sets a very dangerous precedent for future contract negotiations.
Fast forward to negotiating the next contract. It's not hard to imagine the city asking us to agree to 70% after 29-and-a-day in exchange for more cars, 'guaranteed' use of time off or...??? All this on top of the state of Illinois increasing our pension contributions to 11%.
Don't sell out for some petty retroactive pay even when they dazzle you with those 'compounding' salary schedules. They're trying to pacify you on the front while feverishly working on sticking it in your ass.
You see that Rahm is already feverishly working on postponing by another year making that first lump sum ($600+ million) payment toward what's owed our pension fund. That's a big "fuck you coppers" as he flaunts just how NOT broke the city really is by burning 350K for some asshole thespian group that had an 'artistic vision'.
Not to mention Maggie Daley park. DePaul basketball stadium. New Malcolm X college. $203 million Howard St. Red Line renovations. Bike lanes. River Walk. Free city college tuition program for illegals. The list is endless.
It's way past time that FLOP demands a full forensic audit of how much cash is sitting in TIF funds as well as pursues restructuring the language on how/where that cash can be applied. Demand that TIF $ be applied to squaring-up the pensions that the city allowed to be destroyed over years of fiscal malfeasance. Demand that money from any casinos that will eventually arrive gets applied to the pensions.
Enough of this bullshit already, FLOP! Time to take off the kid gloves and demand city honor it's promises and treats the membership accordingly.
“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
― Margaret Thatcher
Rahm is running out of other people's money.
Why would you let them continue to make decisions about who holds the pension money and decides how it will be invested -- as they hit you with management fees regardless of their performance.
The entire game is rigged my friends.
Fuck Rahm, vote the fucker out of office.
Wow... How is this going to play out? City workers must live in the city so when taxes go up again on everything and then you will be paying twice... Whereas non city workers will leave... OR - you guys just won't get a pension in the end... Not good no matter what way you look at it.
Sorry; but I changed my phones' (3) to an out of state address; hell if I pay the new tax!
Not a cop or fireman or city employee, never will be, no clout. But I can add simple math. Okay how is it we have hedge fund billionaires and investment gurus who specialize in pension funds but they are not going broke but the article states that the investment portfolio is down? Can someone else jump on this and add to the discussion? And when will someone make the correlation that the top pension thieves did not even contribute 3% but have already drawn out their share in less than 5 years?
bike lanes,maggie pk etc... Where does all the red light camera money go?
Open the fucking casino already. The old post office and the unused wing of Mcormick for starters.
Re Elect RHAM
Watch FLOP to endorse
It's the way of the world now. Generation X any Y have been raised knowing that their actions will have no consequences, they live in the now for only themselves. From over spending to criminal behavior, they know it can easily be fixed. Bankruptcy every 7 years, to wipe out past financial debt, Early release, parole and expungement for past crimes. The list goes on and on. Nothing will change it will only get worse.
If you voted "YES" on the contract you are now part of the problem!
YOU agreed that it was okay not to pay new employees duty availability for the first 42 months, which was pensionable money.
CFD gave up 12 months.
The city wanted 30 months from CPD on top of CFD's 12. That is how they came up with 42 months.
Time to start the cleanup process
Blah blah blah blah. Bitch moan, bitch moan, bitch moan but continue to vote Dummycrat.
When all you young active guys retire in 20-30 years from now, and take your royal fucking, this might make sense to you.
I wonder how much of the underperforming investments are simply outright thievery.
10/04/14
The Great Chicago Fire Festival
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9YugmYsQw
In Rahm's defense, originally he wanted to burn Englewood.
no cuts to welfare or illegal alien benefits,no pension no work!
google David Sirota "Rahm Emanuel cuts public pensions" The article explains the TIF scam and shows there is plenty of money. It is a great article. check it out
Does anyone try to explain WHY those employer contributions weren't made?
Like it or not, you will be contributing more from your checks to help shore up the fund
Now will everyone see why the emperor rahm put a stooge in charge of the Police department? He is continuing daley's war on the Police pensions. They refused to hire anyone until the clouted were at risk to loose their spots due to a lack of manpower! daley was pissed about people not liking his family's raiding the fund and the fop getting laws passed that required the city to up its funding for the Police pension fund. If you have less employees that means that the city share would be less if they can't worm their way around the laws requiring the payment. Put a stooge in charge of the department to do more with less etc... They are fucking the Police and all the citizens of Chicago. Do you think that they really care?
Need we say more vote NO for contract!
Does "Declining Investment Income" include the millions of dollars loaned to Daley's nephew and lost? The Daley Crime Family is responsible for this and Daley just walked away. He should be in handcuffs.
Anonymous said...
Fuck Rahm, vote the fucker out of office.
10/03/2014 01:27:00 AM
Yes, but who would you replace him with? Karen Lewis? Who can save the pension and how would they do it? And, raising taxes is not the complete answer according to the consultants. It is running out of money and fast.
I don't know why we want to "celebrate" the Great Chicago Fire. What a huge waste of money.
Rahm is a disgrace AND a major asshole.
thx to the great azzholes in state and city offices for the mis-management funds, etc. what the fuck do they really care?? they dont, cuz at the end of the day and their carrer they sure will be cashing in their pensioin payments,,,,thx Daley...you prick, thx Obamhoe, Rahmbitch and the rest of the azzhole leeches in office!!
Take our fucking pensions and these politicians are going to have bigger problems than ISIS or ebola!
Open the fucking casino already. The old post office and the unused wing of Mcormick for starters.
10/03/2014 02:40:00 AM
A year ago I'd have agreed with you, but now I think the main goal should be legalizing weed like Colorado did. Saves money by foregoing the bullshit dime bag arrests, and there will be so much tax money coming in, the biggest issue would be making sure that Rahm and his band of thieves are spending it properly.
Does anyone know when they are going to promote watch secretaries? I have been waiting for so long.
Lets see... Do nothing and get even less down the road or give up a little bit now to have more later...
Too bad we don't have anybody that will think past their own reelection!
Declining investment gains? I'm an informed amateur investor and my deferred compensation has nearly tripled since 2008 invested in the Dodge and Cox Stock fund. Why can't the professional money managers in charge of the pension fund at least beat my funds performance? Msall is a mouthpiece for Rahm, just as Rauner is. They'll screw a policeman or fireman but will ensure the teachers come out unscathed with their pensions untouched. In contrast, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker codified pension protections for policemen, county sheriffs, EMT's and firemen all across the state of Wisconsin yet merit sergeant Jim Ade publicly encouraged all of us to march lock-step at Union Park with the SEIU, the CTU, and other Mumia supporters against Scott Walker! The City has been ordered to pay hundreds of millions into the pension fund and Msall isn't bother one bit by Rahm Emanuel's refusal to do so. A vote for Rauner will be a vote for Rahm, and it is also a vote to drastically increase our pension contribution. Otherwise I'll vote for every other Republican.
But DePaul needs a new stadium, Maggie Daley needs a park....why don't we dip into their campaign funds????Or make Rahm prove what's in his TIF account???
The city sucks. The mayor sucks and McCarty sucks. The job sucks. I can see the light at the end. Good luck new guys
Spent months talking about the Retro and not a mention of the pension fund. There are going to cuts in the benefits , just prepare the best you can. After all is said and done down in Springfield and the courts ( extension of the pols)- the deal the sergeants had cut will look good.
"But the government contribution fell nearly $2 billion short of the $2.8 billion required "
How about that.
All more reason to vote no for this contract proposal. By the city not wanting to pay Duty availability to new officers will only deplete this pension fund further. Stop looking at one extra year of retro pay and vote this contract down so we have a pension. Vote no!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We would have been better off contributing to individual 401K accounts. Never trust politicians and least of all the democrat varity.
10/03/2014 12:13:00 AM
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ReallY? Isn't the deferred comp just a 401k?
OT : 10 hr days? Are you kidding ? Good luck if you have a family and are a working copper going to,court all the time.....you'll never see them.... Oh and the hrs, 0600-1800 for people with seniority, those without its 1800-0600 hrs......so get off work at 0600 be at court by 0900 and stay till about 1330 hrs then be back at work by 1800 hrs......hahahahahahahaha just wait for this, this is the final,nail in the coffin......you ain't seen any medical abuse till this gets implemented.....
Rahm is pissing through money like a drunken sailor yet he flat out refuses to make the city's required contribution to our pension fund.
This slimy asshole has never had any intention of fulfilling the city's obligation to our pension. He doesn't like us and feels our pension plan is too generous so he's decided he's not going to do what's required of him and the city until he gets "pension reform". We all know that his idea of "reform" is to gut our benefits.
All the while he wants to ensure that Maggie gets her park, DePaul gets their arena, he makes the city the most illegal alien friendly by giving free rides in school etc., etc. The list is endless for his bright ideas on using OUR money...... but pension contributions? Why would he do that???
It sure seems like a breach of fiduciary duty that he can simply refuse to make the city's contributions simply because he doesn't want to and is waiting for his demanded reform.
By pissing away all this money on frivilous, non essential, vote pandering stuff it's quite clear that the city has the money.
The Pension crisis could easily be solved:
1. Cut CHA budget by $400 million
2. Public private amusement park have owned by the city. Half of profits go to pensions.
3. No more feel good programs.. like DePaul stadium, after school programs for gang bangers, etc.
BOOM !! there is around $500-600 million right there for city pensions !!
fuck the red light cameras and speed cameras. between speed cameras and bike lanes, traffic jam is at its worst. there is no rush hour anymore. fuck your bike lanes and parking meters. Thank you for taking away our lines of traffic in exchange for bike lanes that no one uses. Thank you for parking meters on every corner. fuck your flower planters and parks. now i can't see shit but if i hit a kid running out its going to be my fault. fuck your broken down highways and streets. fuck your city and plate stickers...and most of all fuck YOU..
In one of Rauner's endless ads he touts himself and his investment groups for helping the funds of teachers and police officers.
The $billion dollar question then is why are our funds so decimated?
Hi SCC n Kids. 10 G here. Hope everyone feeling well. Dreary day outside. RDO today. Wifey left me the honeydo list-trim bushes, cut grass, pull some weeds and do outside of windows. No can do. Raining Dear. Whatever I digress. We had a very good week last wk in NFL. Sorry didn't get neither to you nor my guy with Thur NFL pick but had late job that turned into later job. Oh well. We have all been there. Part of being the REAL POLICE! Rap soon SCC n kids. Luv you guys. BTW REALLY liked GB laying the 9 and a hook. Fuckin job cost me 10 large. Oh well WTF. Wasn't to be I suppose.
let this be a lesson to you young guys....either start saving your asses off or jump ship and go to one of these better managed suburban police departments....check www.theblueline.com CPD is a rats nest..
Make bicyclists that use bike lanes everyday to purchase a license from the city . Issue citations to bicyclists that violate traffic laws. Rahmmie raised 7,000,000 in 3 years.
Maybe he can use. That for the free college tuition , when he gives free tuition , takes credit for it , but it our money$$ the Taxpayer that is paying for it .
$4.75 cell phone tax ,charge the people. A dollar every time the call 911. , I wants Bobbie daddie out of here , my baby won't go to school etc.
Hi SCC n Kids. 10 g one more time. Maybe some peeps would like me exposed. I overhear things at Roll Call and even OTJ on calls. Whatever. But for some people's edification I do play BIG. I am not gay. Nothing wrong with that. Everyone's life is their own. Married with GREAT kids. Gave 2500.00 to CPD MEMORIAL FUND last week asking to NOT reveal source. I won last week and wanted to give to our Brothers and Sisters who gave up their lives. And I don't MF people on this site who MF me. Maybe a "fan" who rides my picks but who cares.
dean you motherfucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!you fucked us!!!!!!!!!!!
They had a party, we paid for it.
Do you hate these politicians?
Do you want to vote them out?
Register To Vote On Line.
Deadline is 7 Oct.
You can check if you're registered, register if you're not and find your polling place.
http://www.elections.il.gov/votinginformation/register.aspx
If you're not registered to vote, you have no right to bitch about our government.
(SCC please make this a new topic.)
This is what cracks me up, you guys sit they're and whine but a very small percentage are smart enough to do anything about it, or have the balls. I prepared for this financially and will be ok without pension and even better if we get one. You can only blame other people so much. You keep saying they keep changing the rules, then why don't we, walk on city hall, stop generating revenue, don't work any overtime. STRIKE!!! The problem is very few can do that finacially, with the possibility of losing they're job. The moral of the story is you will never win a negotiation when you have nothing to bargain with, and most can't afford to quit so you will get whatever they give you. It's about time you figured out your place basically a serf.
Give the fucks more free shit. Tiny Dancer needs the votes from the community. Just like Rauner give the play revs money to buy there votes. Sad thing is those peeps cannot see thru the BS. They will vote these fucks back in and still be stuck in fucked up lives. Don't want to pull themselves up by the bootstraps. And rioting and blaming others aint the way to do it. Gots to look in the mirror and not just when boo doing pookie.
fop also is responsible for wiping clean $23,000,000 the city owed pension fund .
Don't worry the city will keep its promises in the contract!
Wait and see and 4 years from now you can lie and say you were against the contract.
(For the record:The wizard of Wall St., financial genius, RahmEmanuel, made his $16 mil on insider info by selling his Freddie Mac stocks days before they collapsed, part of the Democrats Home Give-a-Way programs under Clinton.)
Rahm, like Daley, like Quinn, like Obama...keep spending. They won't reform that. High speed trains, stations, light shows and festivals, and all kinds of free stuff for the children. Maxing out one credit card and signing up for a new one without paying anything or very little gets paid back.
Rahm wants someone else to pay his bills or just not pay at all. TIF funds, collected from all taxpayers, spent on "pet" projects. It's tax money that should be used as an operating fund, not a political handout bag.
Eventually we will be as decrepit as Detroit.
Pay the Pension obligations Rahm, and only then begin to reform the rules.
This is why I will NOT support Rauner for Gov, he will bend the rules for pal Rahm.
CONVERT TIF MONEY!!!! Rahm's been known to do that before, so do it now
Democrates already took our Social Security while leaving the ELECTED democrates Social Security 100% payable
Ask Dick Durbin, he and his wife are currently collecting over 50,000 a year. He still gets full senate pay and the wife gets her 130,000 a yr lobbiest pay. And when he retires he will keep getting his Social Security and a senate pension and she gets her 401k distribution. Now that wealth redistribution.
How come you never hear about the judges/legislatures pension being short even though they collect after serving only1 to 4 years. how do they stay solvent?
Not a cop or fireman or city employee, never will be, no clout. But I can add simple math. Okay how is it we have hedge fund billionaires and investment gurus who specialize in pension funds but they are not going broke but the article states that the investment portfolio is down? Can someone else jump on this and add to the discussion? And when will someone make the correlation that the top pension thieves did not even contribute 3% but have already drawn out their share in less than 5 years?--------------------------------
It's called micro trading. The richer the investor the more likely he did it with micro trading. Totally corrupt practice and the game is about to over.
Early voting starts 20 Oct 2014. You don't need an ID just like the deadbeats.
You can do it while working right in the shit district that you work in,
They are open on some Saturday's and two Sunday's
Don't be a chump, vote asshole and don't vote for any democrates.
Don't be a chump!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
― Margaret Thatcher
Rahm is running out of other people's money.
10/03/2014 01:07:00 AM
Emanuel is INTENTIONALLY spending all the reserves. Then, he'll tank our fund, saying there's no money.
Anonymous said...
Off Topic but how many people from Englewood showed up at this fundraiser, where POTUS talks about "income inequality" to people who paid $50,000 per dinner plate to hear him speak and give money to Quinn who wants to take pension money from people who work and give it to those who do not and will not work, and to connected friends (not always in that order though).
10/03/2014 12:31:00 AM
So why work hard to better yourself and to get ahead when some shitbag will scream "income inequality" because he doesn't make enough flipping burgers and he wants what you have because he thinks he deserves it.
I recall then the sergeant test had to be "normalized" because a disproportionate number of minorities couldn't score high enough no matter how they made the test. If they couldn't pass the test in enough numbers and high enough they screamed the test was "culturally biased" and therefore racist. They then demanded to be promoted anyway no matter what they scored because dumb people are not intelligent enough to realize they can't cut the mustard.
But before the City faces up to its obligations, lets fork over another $20 million to Flint Taylor and Locke Bowman and oh yeah, lets make sure all the kids in CPS learn about what a bunch of brutes the city has riding around in squad cars.
Sounds like the city is counting on all the retirees to drop dead and have their spouses re-marry to get out from underneath their financial obligations. What a bunch of cocksuckers/
Part of what is wrong with the proposed contract, is the loss of duty availability pay, for new hires for 42 months. That money is pensionable, and the resulting loss of contributions further weakens the pension fund. Sounds to me like Dean has no problem with pension reform.
The Illinois Municipal Retirement Fund has posted double digit gains for the last 4 years running. Look at who is elected to pick our investment advisors? The Lt/CPT guy who was asked at a meeting in 2008 about the derivatives the fund was exposed to and why the fund has such a big exposure. He did know what they were. Does the sgt. rep have any financial background? The retired member is just a POL and is clueless.
And people wonder why.
Supt just got engaged to his 33 yo girlfriend. Another sign he is going to buy pension credits and leave. Rumor is Lappe is scheduled to vote "yes".
I feel sorry for you cops because you are going to be royally fucked in a few years. But you and the rest of municipal employees bear some of the blame as well as you make your contributions but don't keep track of what the retirement funds do with your money. Illinois public pension funds are utterly corrupt with side deals, phony commission payments and more.
Other day I'm riding w/a PPO. I ask the PPO how R pensions arranged for U guys? Still the same or is that 2 tier thing been implemented?
The PPO's answer scared the crap out of me. The PPO said "We don't get a pension." Right or wrong I told him if I didn't get a pension I'd ask him to drop me off at the station, take X, and just regard this portion of my life as a gamble that didn't pay off.
The name of this game is PENSION! We gave or will give up so much for this job. I have Family Members I don't recognize that R now in their 20's. It's like we're strangers.
Christmas, Thanksgiving, 4th of July(I can obviously go on)that were missed YEARS running. Friends who's kids I haven't met. The job consumes U. It insulates U from the rest of the world.
They're brainwashing these PPOs to expect & B comfortable with the unthinkable.
I am not a cop, but making sure that the City makes the $600 million payment on time is critical to the health of the pension funds. If you do a simple future value of money calculation at a reasonable return, every missed city contribution puts your retirement further in jeopardy. The police are paying a steep price for Maggie Daly park, the BS of planter boxes in the center of streets, TIF giveaways etc.
This is wishful thinking, but the only people who should be allowed to vote are property owners who have their real estate taxes paid up. Not the freeloaders, community activists, fake preachers with tax exemptions, section 8 and housing voucher renters, etc. You would see a balanced budget real quick.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202500003368338&set=vb.1442725310&type=2&theater
O.T. but in response to 12:31 AM
Rahm simply does whatever the Hell he wants..... all the while demanding pension reform.
I'd love to see that evil prick flattened by a bus.
How about reforming the fact when you leave one city department and take on another city job you only collect on the pension from the first job held. NO TWO Pensions.
Dallas Co. sheriff's officers entered quarantined apartment
"I don't care if it's overkill. Let's do overkill. I don't think sending a few deputies in there is the right course of action."
DALLAS -- Five members of the Dallas County Sheriff's Department who were briefly inside the apartment where a man with Ebola stayed have been temporarily put on leave.
"They're very concerned," said Christopher Dyer, president of the Dallas County Sheriff's Association. "Their families are concerned. You've got to go home and tell your spouse, 'Hey, I was just inside this house where a guy had Ebola.'"
The three deputies, a sergeant, and a lieutenant accompanied the head of Dallas County Health and Human Services Department and a doctor into the apartment late Wednesday night. They had gone there on the orders of Sheriff Lupe Valdez to get the people inside to sign a court order forbidding them from leaving the apartment.
Dyer said deputies should never have been involved to begin with, because he considers it a federal issue and not a local matter.
"My anger is really with the feds," he said. "Let's move that family. Let's move everybody out of that building. I don't care if it's overkill. Let's do overkill. I don't think sending a few deputies in there is the right course of action."
What really raised everyone's concern was when the order came down Thursday morning that the squad cars the deputies were in Wednesday were being taken out of service, Dyer said. Those cars are reportedly being cleaned.
Dyer said deputies - both those that went inside and those that didn't - were told to bag up their uniforms and boots and turn them in. He said he contacted Valdez's second in command, asking that the deputies be put on leave and be evaluated by medical staff.
more: http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/dallas-county/2014/10/02/dallas-county-sheriffs-deputies-entered-ebola-quarantined-apartment/16622445/
Yeah, these c**k suckers at the CDC have everything under control. Their arrogance and hubris shows no bounds. Why they're experts and have teams of "the best" and protocols in place ( all which have been blown)
Yeah. They know all about it.
That's why over 200 medical professionals have died at Ebola central. Bad hygiene right?
Speak up now or forever hold your piece. Don't wait until it's here.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Open the fucking casino already. The old post office and the unused wing of Mcormick for starters
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heh yeah,,,
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Illinois Casino Revenues Down 5%, Iowa Up 4% In August According to the latest results from the Illinois Gaming Board, the state's 10 casinos generated 5.5% .
Unhappy casinos: Video-gaming outlets beating us at our own game
Illinois' casino industry is blaming sprawling video-gaming competition for its recent drop in attendance across the state.
The state legalized video gambling in public places outside of casinos in 2009. Machines started appearing in the metro-eat two years ago in bars, restaurants, fraternal organizations and gaming parlors.
Since then, the state's casinos have witnessed a 13 percent drop in attendance.
Casino Queen president and general manager Jeff Watson said 1,700 machines have popped up within 50 miles of the East St. Louis casino in the past two years. As a result, he said the East St. Louis casino has witnessed a 14 percent drop in revenue.
"In this market, there is an absolute and direct correlation to (video gaming) coming into this market and our revenue being off," Watson said. "There is no question about it."
Read more here: http://www.bnd.com/2014/09/27/3424634/casinos-say-local-video-gaming.html#storylink=cpy
Why is it that Indiana pensions grew because of investment income growth, oh I forgot under Lord Daley a set aside portion of our pension investments were to be directed to minority investment brokers who are probably connected to the party, taking their slice so they can pony up for Quinns $50k a plate fundraiser. What did they invest in, Rams' baby Solyndra, he was the Chief of Shaft when that was Ramd at the taxpayers.
How about this. There are 640,000 property tax bills sent out in Chicago yearly. Since Ram has been in office a $100 dollar a year increase would have added up to a simple $192 million plus any growth from investment, yes a drop in bucket but at least something other than the arrogance.
TIP: How To Clean Up Ebola Vomit.
(use a pressure washer that creates a contaminated mist wtf?)
Outrage! Ebola vomit washed down storm drain
'Nice! This is how the gov't protects us! No one is in charge
America wants to know: Why in the world isn’t the Ebola clean-up crew in Dallas, Texas, wearing protective biohazard suits to prevent further spread of the deadly virus?
A photo posted online by Dallas/Fort Worth’s WFAA-TV News showed workers pressure washing the sidewalk where Thomas Duncan, a man who arrived from Liberia on Sept. 20 and was confirmed to have the Ebola virus, had vomited all over the ground outside The Ivy Apartments on Sept. 26. Hunter’s family members are reportedly quarantined in an apartment unit under armed guard after they attempted to violate orders to remain in their home.
The workers, who appeared to be allowing the potentially contaminated water wash down the storm drains, wore no protective gear – not even gloves.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/outrage-ebola-vomit-washed-down-storm-drain/#SoQcGMtaLdjSt2j2.99
DEMAND THE HEAD OF CDC'S RESIGNATION NOW!!
I'm not saying the pension funds aren't in bad shape but Rahm exaggerates how bad things are so he can keep beating the pension reform drum.
He also intentionally refuses to put in the city's required contributions until HE gets pension reform. I'm quite sure things wouldn't be so dire if Rahm would just make the REQUIRED contributions.... but then again Rahm does whatever he feels like.... laws and contracts be damned.
Sure this is how it's gonna play out.
We'll give you a 2.5%/year wage increase while groceries prices are rising in the double digits.
We'll point to the BLS adjusted CPI indicator (using crime is down math methodologies) to tell you prices are not rising that fast.
Using the Eric Holder technique, brainwashing the public, like with non-stop propaganda on gun rights, we can adapt that brain washing program using fear of taking all the pensions, healthcare, wages away.
We'll take back that wage increase with an offsetting tax increase and when you complain about pensions not being funded we'll increase YOUR payroll contributions to cover the loss of money the political leaders were supposed to chip in.
Ebola family under armed guard after trying to leave quarantine
A woman who has been confined to her Dallas apartment under armed guard after a man infected with Ebola stayed at her home said she never imagined this could happen to her so far from disease-ravaged West Africa.
Louise Troh said Thursday that she is tired of being locked up and wants health authorities to decontaminate her home
http://nypost.com/2014/10/03/armed-guards-blocking-family-exposed-to-ebola-from-leaving-dallas-home/
Quarantined for a few days and she's tired of it. Oh well..
Not paying the pension contribution is criminal. Just like deficit spending/borrowing, it enables these bastards to inflate the size of government and their own pockets, leaving us holding the bag. The state, the city & the county will have to declare bankruptcy...
It's way past time that FLOP demands a full forensic audit of how much cash is sitting in TIF funds as well as pursues restructuring the language on how/where that cash can be applied. Demand that TIF $ be applied to squaring-up the pensions that the city allowed to be destroyed over years of fiscal malfeasance. Demand that money from any casinos that will eventually arrive gets applied to the pensions.
I agree. FOP is full of shit and just rolls with the script as provided to them by the city and the Emanuel administration. They're happy to not rock the boat and make any waves.
How hard would it be for one of the slugs over on Washington Street making captains pay to compile a list of all the unnecessary millions, make that hundreds of millions, spent or earmarked for nonessential projects over the last few years? Find those totals and then purchase billboard, newspaper, radio and television time slots letting the public know what the hell is actually going on. Same goes explaining how we've paid 9% of our salaries towards our pension and how the administration failed to keep up their end and flat out stole much of this cash.
Put your money where your mouth is Dean. And grow some balls and actually go to bat for the rank-and-file. What's that? Oh that's right, it's too late. You already sold out the membership by adhering to the bullshit policy of not negotiating in the press while the city did just that every chance they got. You rolled over like every FOP administration in the past and allowed them to stick it in our collective ass.
Anyone that votes yes to this contract is a goddamn fool.
bike lanes,maggie pk etc... Where does all the red light camera money go?
10/03/2014 02:25:00 AM
Most of the red light money goes to the Company running them. And then some of the company's money oozes into the politician's pockets from there.
Why would you let them continue to make decisions about who holds the pension money and decides how it will be invested -- as they hit you with management fees regardless of their performance.
The entire game is rigged my friends.
10/03/2014 01:08:00 AM
I agree! Can we take our union dues that are given to the FOP and hire an investment firm? At least to oversee the money. We also need to hire a law firm that specializes in contract negotiations. The P.O.'s at the FOP that are going up against the city lawyers is like the Globetrotters playing the Washington Generals!
What is the definition of Pension Reform ? What needs to be reformed ?
The powers to be, did not abide by the rules. They violated their pension obligations. So the first step in Pension Reform, is to identify them, and prosecute them.
Are You Listening Attorney General ?
If they have personnel assets, lets seize them.
Where Am I Wrong Here ?
Okay, it is time to ask again. How much tax money is generated by the 3500 plus poker and slot machines currently in the city? Where does it go? Is it more cash than red light cameras make? BGA, FOP why aren't you asking these questions?
As cold as Chicago is during the winter months and nice during the summer wtf don't we have CASINOS all over the lake front along with indoor water/amusement parks...or an indoor mall of America....No I forgot a stupid library, a stupid Maggie park and so on are put up which generate no freaken money just loses....whats wrong with this picture! !!
Problem is FOP has no control over these issues, its a plate full of shit handed down to them...thanks to all the thieves in government and thieves who didn't contribute shit to pension fund!
Where is the outrage? No wonder we get no respect from Madigan or Emanuel, they are blatantly stealing from our future and know we are too stupid and cowardly to do anything about it.
Anonymous said...
Open the fucking casino already. The old post office and the unused wing of Mcormick for starters.
10/03/2014 02:40:00 AM
Rahm & Co. and Daley Inc. WANT that casino badly but they want to rig it so that Police and Fire pensions are cut off from casino moneys via legislation and never made whole again.
Muni employee pensions CAN be sustained but the politicians have been looting them to paper over budget shortfalls while orchestrating all the "Cush $100K pensions and sweet early retirement at 50 for coppers" to rile up the public to co-sign and approve the politicians cutting our throats so they can skate on not only full disclosure about the theft from our pension fund but also getting away scott free...
Remember Miriam Santos?
Bless her heart for calling bullshit on Shortshanks.
"Lookit all dat money dem coppers got over by dere doin' nuttin' fer us."
It should have been Daley's ass being bundled off to prison.
Daley couldn't have his way so he intentionally wrecked it like the spoiled fat bastard he is.
A pox of biblical proportion on Daley's house and all who dwell therein.
Rahm's crazy little ass is burning money out of spite while trying to get out of making that balloon payment until he can get Springfield to pass legislation absolving the city from having to do so.
Nasty little prick...
May he and his eugenicist brother both live to be rotting alive centenarians with presence of mind...
Sell Ohare and Midway. Pay up mutha fuckas!
OT
DO NOT go to the Dunkin donuts at Austin/Higgins in 016. There is a copy of an employees Facebook going around where he claims to spit in coppers coffee. When the owner was confronted with this he told the police to leave his property.
It's just shamefull and criminal what the politicians did to the pension. We put into the pension every pay check since day one with no say. It's automatic and when we were hired the city told us we have no choice. We give them the money and that's the last we see of it. Someone should ask all the fat cat politicians "how is your pension?" Police and firemen die and get seriously hurt doing their jobs. What health risks to the scumbag politicians take? Maybe too many steak dinners? It's sad. And maybe someday no one will want to be a first responder after seeing the way the current ones are treated. It's time to point the finger at the true people that messed up the pension starting with mayor Daley.
Anonymous said...
"We would have been better off contributing to individual 401K accounts. Never trust politicians and least of all the democrat varity."
10/03/2014 12:13:00 AM
You right, you would have been better off going 401K.
Not being a cop, I feel really sorry for all you and all public employees. You got and will continue to get screwed by the politicos. Regardless of what party they are tied to, they are all crooked bums (especially in this state) with a job-for-life because of the apathy by the constituents they rob, oops ... represent.
Anonymous said...
"Declining investment gains? I'm an informed amateur investor and my deferred compensation has nearly tripled since 2008 invested in the Dodge and Cox Stock fund. Why can't the professional money managers in charge of the pension fund at least beat my funds performance? ..."
10/03/2014 08:21:00 AM
That's probably because Dodge and Cox did not play ball and line the pockets of the dirt bags that that make the decision as to which funds to invest in. I always amazes me that when my stock are doing great I hear about this or that public pension fund going bankrupt.
Wake Up & Stand Down!!!!!! Until we get the respect & financial security that we deserve!
Get yourself registered to vote. our record is appalling as coppers we don't vote. Get off your ass and do it.
Why is FOP not suing the city for unfair labor practices?
Help!!!!!
Sorry to throw State of Illinois employees under the bus, especially ISP-but why does their continued lifetime Insurance continue free of charge? And that includes families!
Actually not that sorry....
I'm sure some of our money was filtered into State of Illinois plans somewhere.
OT : 10 hr days? Are you kidding ? Good luck if you have a family and are a working copper going to,court all the time.....you'll never see them.... Oh and the hrs, 0600-1800 for people with seniority, those without its 1800-0600 hrs......so get off work at 0600 be at court by 0900 and stay till about 1330 hrs then be back at work by 1800 hrs......hahahahahahahaha just wait for this, this is the final,nail in the coffin......you ain't seen any medical abuse till this gets implemented.....
10/03/2014 08:50:00 AM
WOW That is a 12 hour day nitwit.. You have 53 more days off a year under 10 hr schedule. Think before you type idiot.
"Early voting starts 20 Oct 2014.
You can do it while working right in the shit district that you work in,
They are open on some Saturday's and two Sunday's"
You cannot Early Vote if you are not registered to vote.
Register To Vote On Line. Deadline is 7 Oct.
http://www.elections.il.gov/votinginformation/register.aspx
You can check if you're registered, register if you're not.
If you're not registered to vote, you have no right to bitch about our government.
As cold as Chicago is during the winter months and nice during the summer wtf don't we have CASINOS all over the lake front along with indoor water/amusement parks...or an indoor mall of America....No I forgot a stupid library, a stupid Maggie park and so on are put up which generate no freaken money just loses....whats wrong with this picture! !!
Casinos are bigger than Chicago. Gaming is controlled by the state. Has to do with regulations about how many are allowed to protect the other state gaming revenues like horse racing and off track betting. Opening a casino is not a simple thing.
Plus,maybe not in Chicago,but in Atlantic City 3 of the biggest casinos have closed in the last few months. All three went belly up
Its the democrat way. Just look at Detroit.
I'm not saying the pension funds aren't in bad shape but Rahm exaggerates how bad things are so he can keep beating the pension reform drum.
He also intentionally refuses to put in the city's required contributions until HE gets pension reform. I'm quite sure things wouldn't be so dire if Rahm would just make the REQUIRED contributions.... but then again Rahm does whatever he feels like.... laws and contracts be damned.
Not quite true. He hasn't violated SB3538 yet. 600 million is due in 2015,but there is something in the law that it isn't payable until 2016, giving him some time to get pension reform.
Why would you let them continue to make decisions about who holds the pension money and decides how it will be invested -- as they hit you with management fees regardless of their performance.
The entire game is rigged my friends.
10/03/2014 01:08:00 AM
I agree! Can we take our union dues that are given to the FOP and hire an investment firm? At least to oversee the money. We also need to hire a law firm that specializes in contract negotiations. The P.O.'s at the FOP that are going up against the city lawyers is like the Globetrotters playing the Washington Generals!
You guys don't appear to know much about the pension. FOP has nothing to do with the investing of our pension money and for that I think we should all be thankful.
The money is invested by the Pension Board and the investment companies that they hire. The board consists of 8 members,4 of which we elect and 4 that the mayor appoints. They have the control of the investments,not the FOP.
As far as the investment companies charging fees regardless of the performance, thats the way investing in the market works. If the investment company underperforms, you fire them and get another.
Anonymous said...
This is what cracks me up, you guys sit they're and whine but a very small percentage are smart enough to do anything about it, or have the balls. I prepared for this financially and will be ok without pension and even better if we get one. You can only blame other people so much. You keep saying they keep changing the rules, then why don't we, walk on city hall, stop generating revenue, don't work any overtime. STRIKE!!! The problem is very few can do that finacially, with the possibility of losing they're job. The moral of the story is you will never win a negotiation when you have nothing to bargain with, and most can't afford to quit so you will get whatever they give you. It's about time you figured out your place basically a serf.
10/03/2014 10:04:00 AM
The Police have a no-strike clause,you idiot.
OT : 10 hr days? Are you kidding ? Good luck if you have a family and are a working copper going to,court all the time.....you'll never see them.... Oh and the hrs, 0600-1800 for people with seniority, those without its 1800-0600 hrs......so get off work at 0600 be at court by 0900 and stay till about 1330 hrs then be back at work by 1800 hrs......hahahahahahahaha just wait for this, this is the final,nail in the coffin......you ain't seen any medical abuse till this gets implemented.....
10/03/2014 08:50:00 AM
Yes! Bring the 10 hour day! You're right, I'll never see my family with 3 four day weekends off in a row. Who in their right kind would want that? And judging by your dumb fucking chicago public school logic, 6am to 6pm is 12 hours, not 10. 12 hours, yes, you're right again, too much for law enforcement. 10 hours, not so, it's perfect.
If I remember right, the housing hours were 8pm-6am. Late side, 10pm-8am. Man, that's almost like, what we are working now! It's horrible I tell ya. Let's all hit the medical. Oh wait, I won't have to. I'll be rdo Thursday, fri, sat, sun.
Guys like you who can't think past the carrot in front of their face are the ones voting yes for this contract.
It seems the Mayor Emanuel is more concerned about the illegals and their welfare, than he is about the retirees who helped make Chicago a great place to live. Is he(Emanuel) ANTI American?
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We would have been better off contributing to individual 401K accounts. Never trust politicians and least of all the democrat varity.
10/03/2014 12:13:00 AM
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ReallY? Isn't the deferred comp just a 401k?
10/03/2014 08:48:00 AM
You two really don't have a clue,do you?
There was a brief story on one of this morning's news shows about Gary McCarthy getting engaged.
The story seems to have disappeared. Was it true or not?
Either way, as much as I don't like the guy the private life should stay private.
Anonymous said...
Other day I'm riding w/a PPO. I ask the PPO how R pensions arranged for U guys? Still the same or is that 2 tier thing been implemented?
The PPO's answer scared the crap out of me. The PPO said "We don't get a pension." Right or wrong I told him if I didn't get a pension I'd ask him to drop me off at the station, take X, and just regard this portion of my life as a gamble that didn't pay off.
The name of this game is PENSION! We gave or will give up so much for this job. I have Family Members I don't recognize that R now in their 20's. It's like we're strangers.
Christmas, Thanksgiving, 4th of July(I can obviously go on)that were missed YEARS running. Friends who's kids I haven't met. The job consumes U. It insulates U from the rest of the world.
They're brainwashing these PPOs to expect & B comfortable with the unthinkable.
Your PPO is an idiot. He or she gets a pension close to ours. It took effect Jan 1,2011. They get the same 50% after 20 years,2 1/2 % a year after that. Changes were cant retire until 55 instead of 50 and last 96 months instead of our 48 months to calculate the pension. Its SB3538 link below
http://www.civicfed.org/civic-federation/blog/senate-bill-3538-police-and-fire-pension-reforms
As far as the job consuming you, it only consumes you if you let it.
Its not always convienent, but you have to work around it. On holidays if you have to work there are ways to celebrate early or late, on the big holidays like Christmas and New Years when I was in patrol, we usually got one of the holidays off.
There are plenty of service workers, bartenders,waitresses,hotel,etc that have the same hours and have to work the holidays for less.
And finally in my neighborhood half of the grammar school coaches are po's who somehow find a WAY TO FIT THE COACHING AT THE SCHOOL OR PARK LEVEL INTO THEIR SCHEDULES
The Illinois Municipal Retirement Fund has posted double digit gains for the last 4 years running. Look at who is elected to pick our investment advisors? The Lt/CPT guy who was asked at a meeting in 2008 about the derivatives the fund was exposed to and why the fund has such a big exposure. He did know what they were. Does the sgt. rep have any financial background? The retired member is just a POL and is clueless.
And people wonder why.
10/03/2014 11:54:00 AM
You said it all, we elected them.
What else can you say.
Anonymous said...
Supt just got engaged to his 33 yo girlfriend. Another sign he is going to buy pension credits and leave. Rumor is Lappe is scheduled to vote "yes".
10/03/2014 11:58:00 AM
Yea right or maybe a sign he is going to stay. She has a practice here, why would she leave.
I'm going to write a cookbook with recipes using cat food.
Anonymous said...
How come you never hear about the judges/legislatures pension being short even though they collect after serving only1 to 4 years. how do they stay solvent?
10/03/2014 10:49:00 AM
A wild guess would be the politicians make sure the city and state put their proper contributions in, unlike our pension fund.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How about reforming the fact when you leave one city department and take on another city job you only collect on the pension from the first job held. NO TWO Pensions.
10/03/2014 01:33:00 PM
Daley already got that law enacted. But he ensured HE would get all three of his pensions.
We would have been better off contributing to individual 401K accounts. Never trust politicians and least of all the democrat varity.
10/03/2014 12:13:00 AM
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ReallY? Isn't the deferred comp just a 401k?
Yes it is, some people just don't get it or understand it.
I maxed out on deferred from day one in like 1984, have been retired for 8 years and have already been paid from the pension close to what I accumulated in my deferred. Plus when I die my wife will collect half of my pension.
My point is, dont compare the 401K with the pension. Its like comparing apples and oranges
Anonymous said...
OT : 10 hr days? Are you kidding ? Good luck if you have a family and are a working copper going to,court all the time.....you'll never see them.... Oh and the hrs, 0600-1800 for people with seniority, those without its 1800-0600 hrs......so get off work at 0600 be at court by 0900 and stay till about 1330 hrs then be back at work by 1800 hrs......hahahahahahahaha just wait for this, this is the final,nail in the coffin......you ain't seen any medical abuse till this gets implemented.....
10/03/2014 08:50:00 AM
Easy solution stop being the working police and acting like you are making a difference. The days off are enough to get your court dates. Stop with that sob story about never seeing your family, those 3 four day weekends were great for my family. I would sell my soul to get them 10 hour days again.
765B
Ret Sgt Les S---still proud of this little prick nephew of yours?
Is he picking up your insurance?
Anonymous said...
It's way past time that FLOP demands a full forensic audit of how much cash is sitting in TIF funds as well as pursues restructuring the language on how/where that cash can be applied. Demand that TIF $ be applied to squaring-up the pensions that the city allowed to be destroyed over years of fiscal malfeasance. Demand that money from any casinos that will eventually arrive gets applied to the pensions.
10/03/2014 02:47:00 PM
FOP is not a unit of government. Rahm tells his own IG to go piss off. Oh yeah, FOP should demand an audit. And DD coffee and chocolate donuts all around while they are waiting.
Fucking people amaze me. It rains outside and people scream why isn't the FOP doing something about it. File a lawsuit, grievance, impeach Dean Angelo, anything. Then it is always "fucking FOP doesn't do anything," "It got dark again last night and FOP just lets it!" "Do nothings, they aren't even a union! We need the Teamsters, they will fix all this shit!" "Hey Mary, get me a fucking beer!"
Hi SCC n Kids. 10 g one more time. Maybe some peeps would like me exposed. I overhear things at Roll Call and even OTJ on calls. Whatever. But for some people's edification I do play BIG. I am not gay. Nothing wrong with that. Everyone's life is their own. Married with GREAT kids. Gave 2500.00 to CPD MEMORIAL FUND last week asking to NOT reveal source. I won last week and wanted to give to our Brothers and Sisters who gave up their lives. And I don't MF people on this site who MF me. Maybe a "fan" who rides my picks but who cares.
10/03/2014 09:42:00 AM
Anyone who has to point out how wonderful he is, is a narcissistic loser.
Sacrifice years of family time & test ones sanity for 30 years on the street, with the hope of escaping this urban insane asylum with a meager pension, only to have it stolen, .......Someone is gonna go Postal !!
No wonder we get no respect from Madigan or Emanuel, they are blatantly stealing from our future and know we are too stupid and cowardly to do anything about it.
What's with this "we" shit?? And why the concern over getting 'respect' from those two jagoffs?!?
Speak for yourself, numbnuts!
(For the record:The wizard of Wall St., financial genius, RahmEmanuel, made his $16 mil on insider info by selling his Freddie Mac stocks days before they collapsed, part of the Democrats Home Give-a-Way programs under Clinton.)
Rahm, like Daley, like Quinn, like Obama...keep spending. They won't reform that. High speed trains, stations, light shows and festivals, and all kinds of free stuff for the children. Maxing out one credit card and signing up for a new one without paying anything or very little gets paid back.
Rahm wants someone else to pay his bills or just not pay at all. TIF funds, collected from all taxpayers, spent on "pet" projects. It's tax money that should be used as an operating fund, not a political handout bag.
Eventually we will be as decrepit as Detroit.
Pay the Pension obligations Rahm, and only then begin to reform the rules.
This is why I will NOT support Rauner for Gov, he will bend the rules for pal Rahm.
10/03/2014 10:10:00 AM
You are an idiot. While I'm not crazy about Rauner, if it's between him or Quinn, I think I'll go Republican. You have to choose one or the other- a write in vote for Jesus Christ do no good in a shit hole like this.
All of a sudden fop has no control over any issues .
Oh yeah they just blame the prior leaders , sure had control of giving $24,000,000 away
The contributions went to Walsh, McHugh, Reyes etc.... for overbuilt mostly unnecessary projects. One example.
How a “shadow budget” is bankrupting Chicago
The new report, from the taxpayer watchdog group Good Jobs First, shows how Chicago’s roughly 150 “tax increment financing” (TIF) districts divert property taxes out of schools and public services and into what is now known as Chicago’s “shadow budget.” That’s a slightly nicer term for what is, in practice, Emanuel’s very own sovereign wealth fund.
Living up to his billing as “Mayor 1%,” Emanuel has used the fund to (among other things) offer up $7 million of taxpayer cash for a new grocery store, $7.5 million for a proposed data center, $29 million for an office high rise and $55 million for a huge new hotel (and that latter project is on top of $75 million more in tax money Emanuel has offered up to build a private university a new basketball stadium). And these are just a few of the corporate subsidy proposals in a $300 million spending spree Emanuel has championed at the very moment he has pled poverty to justify pension cuts, property tax increases and the largest school closure in his city’s history.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There was a brief story on one of this morning's news shows about Gary McCarthy getting engaged.
The story seems to have disappeared. Was it true or not?
Either way, as much as I don't like the guy the private life should stay private.
10/03/2014 08:12:00 PM
He and the fiancée gave interviews detailing the first date, the relationship and the engagement evening, so it's hardly private. Oh, and how she saved his life by putting him in a cab the morning he had the heart attack.
Anonymous said...
How about reforming the fact when you leave one city department and take on another city job you only collect on the pension from the first job held. NO TWO Pensions.
10/03/2014 01:33:00 PM
Daley already got that law enacted. But he ensured HE would get all three of his pensions.
10/03/2014 08:27:00 PM
Morons. As much as I hate Daley, his government time was for three governments: State of IL (General Assembly) Cook County (States Attorney) City of Chicago (Mayor)
Not three departments, three GOVERNMENTS.
DO NOT go to the Dunkin donuts at Austin/Higgins in 016. There is a copy of an employees Facebook going around where he claims to spit in coppers coffee. When the owner was confronted with this he told the police to leave his property....
If the police left his property without saying a word, they are soft! This is a "licensed premise" and we as police can stay as long as we want to conduct a "licensed premise check." Don't harass, don't argue, just conduct your investigation. If it takes three hours...oh well. If he causes interference? Lock him up as you are conducting police business and he is INTERFERING IN YOUR INVESTIGATION! Don't be rude, just use the tools we have been given. He must comply with the check. It's shocking that police would cow - tow to these assholes. We have been given an immense level of power but seems that most officers have no idea of the right way to use it. As the old timers used to say..."kid, use the power of the pen."
ON THIS ARGUEMENT...
"...This is why I will NOT support Rauner for Gov, he will bend the rules for pal Rahm.
10/03/2014 10:10:00 AM
You are an idiot. While I'm not crazy about Rauner, if it's between him or Quinn, I think I'll go Republican. You have to choose one or the other- a write in vote for Jesus Christ do no good in a shit hole like this.
10/03/2014 10:26:00 "
I figure that if Quinn is elected he will soon get convicted and sent off to rejoin Blago. Then we would have Paul Vallas as governor who may be the most honest of them all.
>>>Anonymous said...
No wonder we get no respect from Madigan or Emanuel, they are blatantly stealing from our future and know we are too stupid and cowardly to do anything about it.
What's with this "we" shit?? And why the concern over getting 'respect' from those two jagoffs?!?
Speak for yourself, numbnuts!
10/03/2014 10:03:00 PM<<<
Because we argue among ourselves but do not organize and vote with our friends and families as a BLUE VOTE BLOCK.
If we did then the politicians would not only respect us they would FEAR US and do our bidding like fund our pensions, provide proper manpower and equipment.
Rauner, is campaigning on ending government pensions and Quinn is not. I like my pension so, I'm voting for Quinn.
"Rahm is burning - yes burning - $350,000 in taxpayer cash Saturday."
"Let it rain! Let it rain! Let it rain, rain, rain." >guitar riff<
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sounds like the city is counting on all the retirees to drop dead and have their spouses re-marry to get out from underneath their financial obligations. What a bunch of cocksuckers/
10/03/2014 11:45:00 AM
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When a spouse remarries he or she now keeps receiving his/her surviving spouse annuity. That change was made a few years ago
Okay CPD, here is a comment from a tax payer. Yes you are getting screwed, no doubt about it. You say you paid your portion and deserve what you were promised and I agree. But the reality is, us tax payers also paid our portion and we don't deserve to get screwed either. There is no one simple answer to this issue. But I do know that the first step to any long term solution has to be getting rid of the Democrats in office. You have to vote. We need every officer to vote at the polls and they need to vote against the machine. Things will not change as long as the machine is running things.
Taxpayer money for new parks , air conditioning in public schools , free tuition but not for first responders pension .
You heard it here first. Our contributions to increase to 12%. Bet on it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Rauner, is campaigning on ending government pensions and Quinn is not. I like my pension so, I'm voting for Quinn.
10/04/2014 05:35:00 AM
If that's your only criteria, he's said more than once that first responders should be exempt from those reforms.
I figure that if Quinn is elected he will soon get convicted and sent off to rejoin Blago. Then we would have Paul Vallas as governor who may be the most honest of them all.
10/04/2014 03:11:00 AM
True, but you can't bank on Quinn's political demise.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
DO NOT go to the Dunkin donuts at Austin/Higgins in 016. There is a copy of an employees Facebook going around where he claims to spit in coppers coffee. When the owner was confronted with this he told the police to leave his property....
If the police left his property without saying a word, they are soft! This is a "licensed premise" and we as police can stay as long as we want to conduct a "licensed premise check." Don't harass, don't argue, just conduct your investigation. If it takes three hours...oh well. If he causes interference? Lock him up as you are conducting police business and he is INTERFERING IN YOUR INVESTIGATION! Don't be rude, just use the tools we have been given. He must comply with the check. It's shocking that police would cow - tow to these assholes. We have been given an immense level of power but seems that most officers have no idea of the right way to use it. As the old timers used to say..."kid, use the power of the pen."
10/04/2014 02:08:00 AM
If the kid states he's adulterated the product, arrest him. It's illegal and it's dangerous.
Meanwhile, someone send a copy of that captured facebook document to DD corporate hq.
ps. The word is kowtow. Not cow tow.
The Daley-Emanuel death spiral continues.
to 8;05 pm thats my point idiot, if we all strike are they gonna fire us all. My point once again we have no bargaining advantage because majority don't have the balls to strike and take a chance of getting fired.not only that majority of you fall right into they're trap of saving money by paying overtime and not hiring more guys, because you got divorced had to many kids whatever way you live above your means.
Anonymous said...
DO NOT go to the Dunkin donuts at Austin/Higgins in 016. There is a copy of an employees Facebook going around where he claims to spit in coppers coffee. When the owner was confronted with this he told the police to leave his property....
If the police left his property without saying a word, they are soft! This is a "licensed premise" and we as police can stay as long as we want to conduct a "licensed premise check." Don't harass, don't argue, just conduct your investigation. If it takes three hours...oh well. If he causes interference? Lock him up as you are conducting police business and he is INTERFERING IN YOUR INVESTIGATION! Don't be rude, just use the tools we have been given. He must comply with the check. It's shocking that police would cow - tow to these assholes. We have been given an immense level of power but seems that most officers have no idea of the right way to use it. As the old timers used to say..."kid, use the power of the pen."
10/04/2014 02:08:00 AM
How about notify the city's health department about the situation. I'm sure they may want to look into it. It's a health concern for sure. To really nip this in the but just don't go there. get coffee elsewhere.
Alas!!! Poor Pension, I almost knew Ye....
The word is kowtow. Not cow tow........
Thanks, phone auto corrected the post. I promise I won't make any errors next time.
Rauner, has never said that first responders, should be exempt from pension reform. What he said, to paraphrase,is that first responders, deserve a better deal than other government employees. I heard him say this live, in person at a speech that he gave. I'm holding my nose, and voting for Quinn.
Okay CPD, here is a comment from a tax payer. Yes you are getting screwed, no doubt about it. You say you paid your portion and deserve what you were promised and I agree. But the reality is, us tax payers also paid our portion and we don't deserve to get screwed either. There is no one simple answer to this issue. But I do know that the first step to any long term solution has to be getting rid of the Democrats in office. You have to vote. We need every officer to vote at the polls and they need to vote against the machine. Things will not change as long as the machine is running things.
10/04/2014 07:45:00 AM
With all due respect, police officers are also taxpayers! The city stole our contributions(we contribute 9%) and there is no doubt our contributions are going up to help fund the pension. When that is done Rahm will say we need to raise taxes because of the pension. That means we have to pay even more! So as taxpayers ourselves we do feel your frustration.
You are 100% correct on the voting part....But,the sad reality is most P.O's won't bother voting once they receive their retro pay!
Thanks for the comment.
Just remember Bruce Rauner was behind getting public pensions in the stock market so they could lose their value in insider trading gimmicks. Not that governor Potatoe Head is a great choice either...
Vote for Rauner, He stated he would come up with a fix without cutting current retirees benefits. Don't trust the Democrats, as usual they'll say anything to get re-elected, then throw us under the bus again. Remember, Democrats Run the Show, and will do NOTHING to cut Food Stamps, Welfare, Entitlements, etc; or crackdown on Deadbeats in any way, but are ready to throw you and your pension, or future pension to the Wolves. Remember who CAUSED this problem, by GROSS Government Mismanagement, Theft, and Incompetence.
Rahm Emanuel wants to spend every dime so he can claim the city is broke when time for payment next year
"Okay CPD, here is a comment from a tax payer...."
"...But the reality is, us tax payers also paid our portion..."
Guess what, I live in this city and I pay taxes too. My tax dollar goes for the same things yours does. This isn't a case of taxpayers vs city employees. The CITY didn't pay its share. I, the employee, paid my share...and I, the taxpayer paid my share. The POLITICIANS stole, mismanaged, borrowed, didn't re-pay and DIDN'T CONTRIBUTE to the pensions. Save the "us taxpayers" line.
>>>Anonymous said...
Okay CPD, here is a comment from a tax payer. Yes you are getting screwed, no doubt about it. You say you paid your portion and deserve what you were promised and I agree. But the reality is, us tax payers also paid our portion and we don't deserve to get screwed either. There is no one simple answer to this issue. But I do know that the first step to any long term solution has to be getting rid of the Democrats in office. You have to vote. We need every officer to vote at the polls and they need to vote against the machine. Things will not change as long as the machine is running things.
10/04/2014 07:45:00 AM<<<
The BLUE VOTE needs to REVOLT!
Hard enough to do, to overcome apathy and buying off union leaders to keep us politically impotent. There is always the vote fraud of the machine, no need for ID to vote, no real opposition to vote for, and all those promises to the catered to constituency.
Regarding the posts on the DD in 016...
Information about a Facebook post from a Dunkin Donuts employee was
recently circulating via several means of media distribution. The post
included negative comments toward the police including "CPDK".
I met with the manager of this store and the owner (who also owns
numerous stores throughout the city). They assured me that the
employee was fired when they became aware of the insulting and vulgar
posts. Both the manager and owner expressed their commitment to
working with the police and the community. In fact, the owner has
already been involved in numerous community and charity functions
over the years.
If any member has any issues with a business in the 16th District, and
the issue does not rise to the level of a criminal investigation, please let
me know. There are numerous partner agencies, chambers of
commerce and neighborhood organizations that are more than willing to
work with us to remediate conflict.
Commander Roger Bay
District 016 - Jefferson Park
Chicago Police Department
5151 North Milwaukee Avenue
Chicago IL 60630
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
DO NOT go to the Dunkin donuts at Austin/Higgins in 016. There is a copy of an employees Facebook going around where he claims to spit in coppers coffee. When the owner was confronted with this he told the police to leave his property....
If the police left his property without saying a word, they are soft! This is a "licensed premise" and we as police can stay as long as we want to conduct a "licensed premise check." Don't harass, don't argue, just conduct your investigation. If it takes three hours...oh well. If he causes interference? Lock him up as you are conducting police business and he is INTERFERING IN YOUR INVESTIGATION! Don't be rude, just use the tools we have been given. He must comply with the check. It's shocking that police would cow - tow to these assholes. We have been given an immense level of power but seems that most officers have no idea of the right way to use it. As the old timers used to say..."kid, use the power of the pen."
10/04/2014 02:08:00 AM
How about notify the city's health department about the situation. I'm sure they may want to look into it. It's a health concern for sure. To really nip this in the but just don't go there. get coffee elsewhere.
10/04/2014 02:09:00 PM
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buy a coffee and submit it to crime lab. How about that police power?
Rauner, is campaigning on ending government pensions and Quinn is not. I like my pension so, I'm voting for Quinn.
10/04/2014 05:35:00 AM
Nonsense. Pretty desperate, even for a Quinn troll.
A Quinn troll ? As a registered Republican, I'm hardly a Quinn troll. Rauner has stated, that public sector pensions should be eliminated, and government employees put into 401K's. Like the saying goes, You can look it up.
A Quinn troll ? As a registered Republican, I'm hardly a Quinn troll. Rauner has stated, that public sector pensions should be eliminated, and government employees put into 401K's. Like the saying goes, You can look it up.
10/05/2014 08:46:00 PM
I am not registered as a Republican or a Democrat. I vote for whomever I think is best for the job. The Democrats have had this City/State long enough. They have bankrupted it and yet they continue down the same path.
Contrary to what you believe, Rauner is not after, nor can he get my pension. I've almost got my 29 and a day in so it's extremely important to me. If we allow the current thieves to stay in power, there will be no pension for any of us. This city/state is going out of business. We need a new manager. In four years we can decide if Rauner needs to go, but right now Potatohead needs to go.
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