Retirees Lose One Battle
- A federal appeals court has given Mayor Rahm Emanuel the green light to save $27 million in 2015 by forging ahead with a three-year phase-out of the city’s 55-percent city subsidy for retiree health care.
In July, the Illinois Supreme Court ruled that subsidized health care premiums for state employees are protected under the state Constitution and that the Illinois General Assembly was "precluded from diminishing or impairing” that benefit.
Attorneys representing the city’s 28,000 retirees and their dependents argued that the high court ruling “substantially increased” their chances of prevailing on the merits.
They wanted the 7th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals to force Emanuel to roll back their monthly health insurance premiums to 2013 levels.
That’s when Emanuel announced plans to phase out the 55-percent subsidy by January 2017 — but continue that coverage for the 5,500 oldest retirees — and force the younger retirees to make the switch to Obamacare.
So the higher rates take effect, even as the case proceeds forward at the federal level. Take note boys and girls, especially those hoping to retire this year or next or any time in the future actually. We may never have enough money to fully retire - ever.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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It was a motion to keep Emanuel from moving forward while the case was tried. We didn't lose the case.
Chicago Tonight (and I bet a lot of other media outlets) played it like we flat-out lost the case.
Rahm would burn more money if he could....he sure doesn't seem worried about losing the election for Mayor..wonder why? $70 million for a DePaul Basketball stadium, free college for B students (not even requiring a 4.0 grade point average). $350,000 to watch wood burn, extravagant CTA stations....but nothing for pensions or benefits.
I am not going anywhere. I am maxed out in a year but got on young. Leave this job? To make less? I know I will pay into a pension find that I will get no more out of but that is the cost of doing business. OT and Special Employment will keep me here until the bitter end.
Once you are gone, you cannot come back. Think twice before leaving.
Take all the productivity improvements and automation that the last two generations created to make society have a better life.
A better life for our kids and our grand kids with the notion that each generation forward will be a bit better off.
Whelp, you can flush all that down the fucking drain.
All the productivity gains went to the top 1% and still it's not enough. THEY WANT IT ALL.
They busted out this economy and are still trying to cover it up.
It's gonna get much worse.
Instead of a free market for drugs and doctors they have created a monopoly for the people providing the campaign contributions in return.
But OBAMACARE!
It magically makes everything better.
Fucking democratic mayors have fucked over the employees of this city and now the latest fucking democratic mayor want to fuck the employees even more. Yet, it is the democratic controlled city government which failed to make the required pension contributions. But it is the employees fault for the pensions being under funded.
The sky has fallen. Now what?
Ommma Care Keep Voting Democrat
Quinns got your back too
Rahms brother drafted the ACA. (obamacare), is it any surprise that Rahm has used his position to further the law?? its all part of the progressive liberal / socialist agenda to create a road map for all other local governments to use for its government employees. In the end more folks become further dependent on the government tit to survive. Votes, and power retention is the ultimate end game. slippery slope of the Governments booby, suck the nipple you slaves.
Rahm's "tough decisions" consists of taking from defenseless old retirees and giving to the powerful and rich via TIFS.
I kept telling people not to retire. Now a bunch have tried to pull their retirement papers and the city said they can't. The city recently added a line that states once you submit your papers you can't change your mind. Nice trick on the cities part. They got people to submit papers for the 55 and out knowing they were stick it up their ass, and shame on all you guys and gals for thinking the city would keep its word.
How much is it going to cost us to get the NFL Draft here.
Unfortunately Chicago voters are lemmings and keep voting the money grabbing a$$holes into office. It seems like the "uninformed" voters are willing to sell their souls for an extra garbage can. If Rahm can break the city's promise/contract to the city's pensioners, why can't he break Daley's contract for the parking meters?
We will all retire someday. Pension and health care for CPD will only gets worse. But the ignant ugly dumb bangers get shot and they get FREE care at top notch trauma hospitals. WTF
rahm's plan is for you to die before reaching retirement.
There is a special place for rahm. May he get there sooner than later.
HEY 12:42 AM. You pal are a fucking FOOL. The bitter end? you mean die on this fucking job? WOW.
That would be fine if Rahm and Congress would be on Obamacare too. I wonder why those hypocrites wont get on that plan.
Still doesn't negate the fact that he was elected by VOTERS. So was Obama. And every member of the House and the Senate. So much for the wisdom of crowds.
Just keep working until you're eligible for Medicare. You could also retire and find another job with healthcare coverage. You know, the two options for the rest of the working public.
It's not Rahm's money. Why should he care?
Remember city workers are bad and stupid even though they make the city work. Oh wait since Rahm took over it is not the city that works any more. Any city employee that does any work is also stupid. This guy is an asshole and a hypocrite. He collects his pension and health care from the government but not you city employees. But keep voting yes idiots. They know you are losers and count on it.
if you maxed out leave now. Once your on pension you have a better chance of keeping it the way it is. But if your not on pension yet and they make changes your screwed. Why take the chance and gamble on that.
Obama met with our governor and visited us. After listening to the President speak I feel so much better. Because of him we are in great economic shape. We have been all along, it just took the great orator to explain it all.
Retirees***** Drop down to the "Blue Choice Value" it's the purple sheet and the cheapest one of the four choices. Then wait for the outcome of the Federal court. The coverage sucks but it keeps you in the program and if you can get through a year, go back to the better plan next sept/oct if we win the court ruling. Once your out there is no coming back, that's important to think about.
If we lose, then fuck it and wait for Ombama care in 2017. This nitwit is planning on phasing us out all together in 3 years time. I wonder what his timeline is to phase out our pension?
Anonymous said...
It was a motion to keep Emanuel from moving forward while the case was tried. We didn't lose the case.
Chicago Tonight (and I bet a lot of other media outlets) played it like we flat-out lost the case.
10/03/2014 12:37:00 AM
Ya, right, keep holding onto that thought. Injunctions are granted when there is a strong probability that the original case will succeed. As you can see the federal court does not think the retirees will succeed. I think the entire pension matter will end up in federal court.
I retired recently without the free insurance. Moved far away from that shit hole Chicago and Illinois.
I couldn't be happier. I actually feel sorry for the coppers who think the city has them by the balls with this insurance bullshit. Start adding up what it cost per year just to live in Chicago/ Cook county, compared to greener pastures.
Your just spinning your wheels kid.....
We all know he doesn't "save" anything. Its amazing how they will jack up taxes or fees on the producers. The welfare parasites hardly ever lose their government payoff.
Didn't the pensioners get a "reopener" in their retirement benefit package?
The cost of the retirees health care lawsuit, is being borne solely by the police. The other municipal retirees and their unions, have contributed nothing to the cost of this litigation.
Not that many good paying jobs out there for retirees. Are you willing to accept 2 weeks vacation? 3 weeks after 5 years? Hope you have maxed out your deferred comp and have the house paid off and the kids out of school before you retire. Even with the 1.5 or 3.0 (not compounded) COLA that check is going to look a little small after 10 or 15 years.
Anonymous said...
Once you are gone, you cannot come back. Think twice before leaving.
10/03/2014 12:48:00 AM
Quite true.I never expected to get whacked with these kind of bills.Also I'm not eligible for a COLA raise till I turn 60 and then only 1.5%.Basically if you came on this stupid job in your twenties enjoy working 30+years.If I could get back on I would,but I would do less than nothing.I used to look down on the"dogasses",but now realize they were right.I now refer to them as the "Enlightened Ones"'
Active guys please think of retirees. Vote No on the contract, because one day you will be a retiree. Fight hard now so the fight later is easier.
Start looking for sales on cat food and Rahmen noodles.
That's all we'll be able to afford when Rahmenomics is fully implemented.
This guy is an evil prick who runs roughshod over city workers and the middle class so he can continuously pander to big business, illegal aliens and ghetto dwellers.
old timers DON'T RETIRE STAY stay until 62nd Birthday work all of the overtime and stay physically and mentally fit by daily, weekly workouts in our beautiful Chicago Park District and City of Chicago take advantage of earning over $100K per year and current health care benefits!
All of the information you need is within this link: http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/fin/provdrs/ben/alerts/2013/jan/retiree_healthcarebenefitscommissionreporttothemayor.html
In a letter dated May 15, 2013, the City declared its intention to reduce benefits beginning January 1, 2014, and to eliminate all of the City’s retiree healthcare plans by January 1, 2017. Anticipating the June 30, 2013 end of the applicable settlement periods, the City’s letter, issued to all retiree healthcare participants, stated the City intended to:
Extend current retiree healthcare benefits to the end of 2013;
Maintain the current level of benefits for pre-8/23/1989 retirees for their lifetimes;
Make changes beginning January 1, 2014 to the plans with respect to later participants, and terminate their coverage entirely by January 1, 2017.
Also, per Public Act 86-273 and its following statutes, the Funds’ statutory authority to subsidize the healthcare ended June 30, 2013; but was recently extended by Public Act 98-43, signed into law June 28, 2013, extending the current statutory authorization of the subsidies at their current levels until the earlier of January 1, 2017, or such date as the City terminates its retiree healthcare plans.
This is nothing new. We have had this information for years now.
Look at what we pay for retiree healthcare in the "Segal" report. We can expect the contribution rate for 2016 to be almost equal to what "Segal" says the full cost of insurance is.
Once you are gone, you cannot come back. Think twice before leaving.
It's only delaying the inevitable.
So you stay on until mandatory retirement. So what? Unless you have been socking away all those Duty Availability, Uniform and special employment checks or have maxed out in Deferred Comp, you will be right there with everyone else who chose to leave early.
The system is crumbling and they know it. No ones pensions are safe because they aren't real, they don't exist any more and there is no way to fund them. There is no tax hike big enough to support our bankrupt government. They will continue to nibble around the edges with $1 tax hikes on cable, cell phones, cigarettes, etc., you know, the tax hikes that you won't notice. They'll cut services, chip away at pension benefits, raise insurance costs.
The next move will be to seize all private pensions and retirement funds to create a universal retirement plan. But that won't work. It will only create more deflation and pound your home and other asset values to dust.
Quinn or Rauner, it doesn't matter, they are the same. It's too late. The path is set and crisis is occurring.
This is the City of Chicago's consulting company. Watch the video and you will see the final direction of the City will take.
http://bcove.me/d77endgr
What does this mean for people who retired with the 55-out deal? Same thing?
Once you are gone, you cannot come back. Think twice before leaving.
But the job sucks why would you stay?
Off with their heads!
Anonymous said...
It was a motion to keep Emanuel from moving forward while the case was tried. We didn't lose the case.
Chicago Tonight (and I bet a lot of other media outlets) played it like we flat-out lost the case.
10/03/2014 12:37:00 AM
True, but it sure didn't help our case. Appeal courts tend to approve the injunction and stays if they feel the plaintiff has a good chance of winning, refuse it if they don't.
Retired and loving it. Married a young filly who is covering my insurance, what a life.
Are we going to be placed into these Tiered Hospital rankings no matter if we go to arbitration or not?
Just remember, It's only going to be 2% of your pension for your health care when you retire. YUK YUK - vote YES for that retro...NOT
Think long term people, long term
The 55 and out is the greatest hoax, look at the years of service of many of those going, less than 25 years is high pct and now he wants a chunk to go to retiree health care, well you mark my words heath care alltogether will be gone, this socialist millionaire will find a way to weasel out of it. Find yourself a job to pay into Social Security, every dollar counts.
If you don't pay property tax,the city takes your house,if you don't pay income tax,you go to jail,but the city doesn't pay their bill on our pension and the government is given time to make good their promise but no one is punished or even threatened,this city has become so blatantly corrupt that it is scarey and sickening!
Vote the prick out of office that's what you can do
We just got collectively bitch slapped again.
Coppers on the job in the 60's, 70's, and 80's fought to get the benefits that we now enjoy.
Let's not let our Napoleonic Mayor take away our retirement.
If you think you are sore from nagging injuries due to fighting with prisoners, auto accidents, for some, being shot, stabbed, or bludgeoned, etc..........wait till your a senior citizen.
We used to be taken care of with decent medical coverage to somewhat compensate.
Rahms answer....go on Obamacare.
By the way, thanks for your service.
Now don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Wake up now!! Each and every one of us must rally to vote this asshole out of office in February 2015.
OT:
Someone posted that the CPFCU (Credit Union) now accepts employees of the CTA. I was down there today and did indeed confirm this. The reason, I was told, is that our credit union purchased the CTA employee's credit union and merged it with our own.
There are also other departments allowed in to our credit union. I might not have all of these correct but this is what I remember: Cook County Sheriff, Cicero PD, McHenry PD or Sheriff, Evanston PD. There might be more, the employee I spoke to wasn't sure.
Our credit union must be doing OK and is looking to make moves to get larger. I liked it when it was a sleepy little credit union on Wabash. I was always good for $5,000 there with no muss, no fuss. That was 30 years ago. And now, even though a PO can get mortgages, home equity loans etc, the most on a signature loan is still $5,000, same as 1984. I like the old days in just about everything, police department, City of Chicago, women, cars, damn, I didn't have bad knees then, I wasn't so fat. Good old days.
Rahm Emanuel's personal banker, Bruce Rauner, has pledged to freeze real estate taxes in Illinois. That means the city of Chicago will lose the most important funding source it has to shore up the pension fund. The pension fund will be even worse off than it is now if this pandering phony is elected governor. Bruce Rauner is the only Republican I do not plan to vote for. A vote for Rauner is a vote for Rahm.
"Vote the prick out of office that's what you can do"
Register To Vote On Line. Deadline is 7 Oct.
http://www.elections.il.gov/votinginformation/register.aspx
You can check if you're registered, register if you're not.
If you're not registered to vote, you have no right to bitch about our government.
The FED courts are legit- ask Blago when the judge would not even let the defense have any of the tapes. And why was the wire terminated prematurely and who was coming up on the line? I cannot believe that people still believe these judges are legit. How do you think they got there? Some POL nominated them.
Rahm's brother Ezekiel gave instructions to his dr. already that if he gets ill past 75 years of age, he does not want any treatment to cure whatever ails him, he only wants to minimize pain. He said he wants to die by 75, since it's all down hill from there.
That gives EZ 18 more years...of course, he also stated he reserves the right to change the instructions to drs. at age 75 if he so desires. I'm not making this up....
http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/09/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/read it in a NY or Washington column
One can only hope he gets struck by lightening or something where he doesn't have the chance to change his mind.
I feel like we coppers, hell, citizens for that matter, are an endangered species.
Anonymous said...
Retired and loving it. Married a young filly who is covering my insurance, what a life.
10/03/2014 11:25:00 AM
Wow. You're a real catch.
They intend to let the pension go bankrupt.
Do not retire.
Obamacare is coming in 2017.
Do not retire.
The writing is on the wall.
Anonymous said...
Once you are gone, you cannot come back. Think twice before leaving.
10/03/2014 12:48:00 AM
Quite true.I never expected to get whacked with these kind of bills.Also I'm not eligible for a COLA raise till I turn 60 and then only 1.5%.Basically if you came on this stupid job in your twenties enjoy working 30+years.If I could get back on I would,but I would do less than nothing.I used to look down on the"dogasses",but now realize they were right.I now refer to them as the "Enlightened Ones"'
10/03/2014 09:03:00 AM
"The enlightened ones". Love it!!!
Early on, there was a guy we dreaded working with. Get the wagon, do a desk run, get the W.C. some smokes. Get coffee, the newspaper and park somewhere safe but legit. Gack!!!
However, as the years went by, I realized that I was "cricket" and he was the Master. I too, became an enlightened one. Always listen to the oldtimers. They know more than you. Definitely more than what you think you know.
Embrace the Enlightenment.
Englewood and Lawndale need new basketball court at 600K each.
Screw the working person is the theme with Democrats and the BS unions that support them. Labor Unions became useless in the 1960'.
Retirees***** Drop down to the "Blue Choice Value" it's the purple sheet and the cheapest one of the four choices. Then wait for the outcome of the Federal court. The coverage sucks but it keeps you in the program and if you can get through a year, go back to the better plan next sept/oct if we win the court ruling. Once your out there is no coming back, that's important to think about.
If we lose, then fuck it and wait for Ombama care in 2017. This nitwit is planning on phasing us out all together in 3 years time. I wonder what his timeline is to phase out our pension?
10/03/2014 07:55:00 AM
What choices? Hubby got notice that rates were going up but nothing else. He just started Medicare this year.
Also, according to the article Rahm was extending signing up from the 7th to the 23rd of Oct. How can one make a choice when they don't receive anything?
Anonymous said...
Englewood and Lawndale need new basketball court at 600K each.
Screw the working person is the theme with Democrats and the BS unions that support them. Labor Unions became useless in the 1960'.
10/03/2014 10:34:00 PM
Chicago Police weren't represented and had NO contract until 1980 or 81. Did you ever work with a PO who was on the job prior to that contract? You all complain about the sergeants who give you an order you don't agree with.
You should have been around in the 1970's and learned what getting screwed was really like. I wasn't here but the people I worked with early on were and I heard plenty. As bad as some people think they have it, this is nothing compared to back then. I am glad I came on with a contract protecting me.
If you do not like unions there is nothing to prevent you from resigning and going somewhere without collective bargaining for police. Don't forget to write.
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Quite true.I never expected to get whacked with these kind of bills.Also I'm not eligible for a COLA raise till I turn 60 and then only 1.5%.Basically if you came on this stupid job in your twenties enjoy working 30+years.If I could get back on I would,but I would do less than nothing.I used to look down on the"dogasses",but now realize they were right.I now refer to them as the "Enlightened Ones"'
10/03/2014 09:03:00 AM
I believe the COLA could be extended to all PO's but we would have to pay for it during our career. The union had the figures on what the 3% simple interest COLA would cost us. Another percent or so on our pension deduction. Don't expect the City to kick in a cent for COLA's. We would have to fund that one 100% ourselves. Could be done. How bad does everyone want it?
Rahm would burn more money if he could....he sure doesn't seem worried about losing the election for Mayor..wonder why? $70 million for a DePaul Basketball stadium, free college for B students (not even requiring a 4.0 grade point average). $350,000 to watch wood burn, extravagant CTA stations....but nothing for pensions or benefits.
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Got that Dean, police don't get full college for a B with your new con"artist"tract.
Chicago Police weren't represented and had NO contract until 1980 or 81. Did you ever work with a PO who was on the job prior to that contract? You all complain about the sergeants who give you an order you don't agree with.
You should have been around in the 1970's and learned what getting screwed was really like. I wasn't here but the people I worked with early on were and I heard plenty. As bad as some people think they have it, this is nothing compared to back then. I am glad I came on with a contract protecting me.
If you do not like unions there is nothing to prevent you from resigning and going somewhere without collective bargaining for police. Don't forget to write.
Couldn't agree more. I was around and if you think you are being screwed now,you aren't.
No seniority, no bids for watches,dumps all the time. Get a commander mad at you and you were on the next order from 020 to 005. No recourse. Changing your DO when your weekends came up to give them to a favorite.
Or on election day, start at 0600 polls close at 1900hrs, you stayed until ballots were counted and with paper ballots that could be 0300 hrs with NO OVERTIME and had to report to work the next day. Speaking of OT,no OT only TD.
The union did plenty for the po's working now.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Active guys please think of retirees. Vote No on the contract, because one day you will be a retiree. Fight hard now so the fight later is easier.
10/03/2014 09:04:00 AM
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Why? Tell me exactly what you think the arbitrator will change for the better?
Retirees***** Drop down to the "Blue Choice Value" it's the purple sheet and the cheapest one of the four choices. Then wait for the outcome of the Federal court. The coverage sucks but it keeps you in the program and if you can get through a year, go back to the better plan next sept/oct if we win the court ruling. Once your out there is no coming back, that's important to think about.
If we lose, then fuck it and wait for Ombama care in 2017. This nitwit is planning on phasing us out all together in 3 years time. I wonder what his timeline is to phase out our pension?
10/03/2014 07:55:00 AM
What choices? Hubby got notice that rates were going up but nothing else. He just started Medicare this year.
Also, according to the article Rahm was extending signing up from the 7th to the 23rd of Oct. How can one make a choice when they don't receive anything?
10/03/2014 10:45:00 PM
You are correct, the city extended the selection date to 23 Oct 14. The information on the four choices came in the mail weeks ago, large white envelope. It has very specific information for anyone going into Medicare. Call the city and ask them where your stuff is or you can go online and see the information (sorry, I don't have the site in front of me).
Your Mayor really doesn't give two shits about 28000 voters, that's just a drop in the bucket for his reelection campaign. But I didn't vote for this jackass last time and at least I can say I will get off my fat ass and vote again this time, and once again, not for this fucker. Of the 28000 affected, I would bet only 30% voted last time. Sometimes I think we are our own worst enemy.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Start looking for sales on cat food and Rahmen noodles. That's all we'll be able to afford when Rahmenomics is fully implemented.
This guy is an evil prick who runs roughshod over city workers and the middle class so he can continuously pander to big business, illegal aliens and ghetto dwellers.
10/03/2014 09:45:00 AM
Yeah, another cat food goof. Let me know the first time you are forced to eat cat food. I'll spot you some tuna. If I eat noodles it is by choice. I am retired and no where close to checking for coupons on cat food.
A can of Van Kamps pork & beans is better and close enough in price.
Please, spare us the drama of "Oh woe is me, I will be forced to eat cat food" bullshit. There might be some little old lady somewhere with all her money in a mattress who eats cat food but as a retired PO, it isn't me or my family. Not even close.
If you feel you are soon to be forced to eat cat food I would say eating your gun would be more of a danger. Get help.
Anonymous said...
Once you are gone, you cannot come back. Think twice before leaving.
10/03/2014 12:48:00 AM
Quite true.I never expected to get whacked with these kind of bills.Also I'm not eligible for a COLA raise till I turn 60 and then only 1.5%.Basically if you came on this stupid job in your twenties enjoy working 30+years.If I could get back on I would,but I would do less than nothing.I used to look down on the"dogasses",but now realize they were right.I now refer to them as the "Enlightened Ones"'
10/03/2014 09:03:00 AM
"The enlightened ones". Love it!!!
Early on, there was a guy we dreaded working with. Get the wagon, do a desk run, get the W.C. some smokes. Get coffee, the newspaper and park somewhere safe but legit. Gack!!!
However, as the years went by, I realized that I was "cricket" and he was the Master. I too, became an enlightened one. Always listen to the oldtimers. They know more than you. Definitely more than what you think you know.
Embrace the Enlightenment.
10/03/2014 08:38:00 PM
In two months and three weeks (Jan 1, 2015) I will get my 3rd 3% COLA. That will be on the pension check paid on the last day of January 2015. Sometimes it pays to be born in just the right year. Anytime prior to Jan 1, 1955 will do.
You active duty PO's born in 1955 or later need to hit the FOP hard to push the City to get the COLA changed in Springfield to have no age requirement. And if you people are willing to pay for it, it shouldn't be too difficult. The only way to get it is if the employees pay for it 100%. The last time Mark Donahue & Company went down to Springfield looking for pension sweeteners they were told No more unfunded pension enhancements. That was near the start of the mortgage debacle.
If employees want to pay for it, it should not be a problem. If Rahm can be perceived as giving something that costs the City nothing it is doable.
If you feel you are soon to be forced to eat cat food I would say eating your gun would be more of a danger. Get help.
10/04/2014 11:55:00 AM
I think you're taking the cat food reference too literally....geez!
Here's what I don't understand. My husband, retired CPD, and I pay over $800 a month in health care premiums; the City pays $95. How is that $95 a 55% subsidy? And, at this point, why should I care?
When someone posts about eating cat food, it is a metaphor for being semi impoverished, by Rahm's draconian health insurance costs. Some retirees, are doing better than others. You may be retired, but you're the goof.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
When someone posts about eating cat food, it is a metaphor for being semi impoverished, by Rahm's draconian health insurance costs. Some retirees, are doing better than others. You may be retired, but you're the goof.
10/04/2014 09:10:00 PM
Who can claim to be semi impoverished on a pension of $50,000 yearly or greater? I know plenty of retired PO's who make that and some even less. Once they retired they moved to places with a lower cost of living, Arkansas, Tennessee, Southern Illinois. I visit family in small town Pennsylvania, gas is 80 cents a gallon cheaper there.
Want to suffer while semi-impoverished and drowning in cat food metaphors? Stay in Chicago.
Want to really stretch that pension check? Move.
I spent the career watching people complain about their perceived future poverty in eventual retirement while they drove a new Lexus and had a big mortgage payment etc. and failed to max out on deferred comp.
Julie said...
Here's what I don't understand. My husband, retired CPD, and I pay over $800 a month in health care premiums; the City pays $95. How is that $95 a 55% subsidy? And, at this point, why should I care?
10/04/2014 08:03:00 PM
The only explanation I could think of is that the city actually only gives the subsidy to the retiree,not the spouse. My brother is a retiree and single and his premiums are much lower. His premium is alot less than half of a married retiree and spouse. Sort of makes sense that way.
Julie said...
Here's what I don't understand. My husband, retired CPD, and I pay over $800 a month in health care premiums; the City pays $95. How is that $95 a 55% subsidy? And, at this point, why should I care?
10/04/2014 08:03:00 PM
City doesn't pay the 55% subsidy anymore. It was reduced last year and you just received the new premium for next year that showed the subsidy was reduced again. This was announced and will be done over a three year period After 2016 there will be no subsidy
Maybe this link will help
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/10/17/chic-o17.html
Yeah, another cat food goof. Let me know the first time you are forced to eat cat food. I'll spot you some tuna. If I eat noodles it is by choice. I am retired and no where close to checking for coupons on cat food.
A can of Van Kamps pork & beans is better and close enough in price.
Please, spare us the drama of "Oh woe is me, I will be forced to eat cat food" bullshit. There might be some little old lady somewhere with all her money in a mattress who eats cat food but as a retired PO, it isn't me or my family. Not even close.
If you feel you are soon to be forced to eat cat food I would say eating your gun would be more of a danger. Get help.
10/04/2014 11:55:00 AM
I'm partial to Kibbles and Bits. Tasty Treats aren't bad,either.
Actually cat food is kind of expensive.
Who can claim to be semi impoverished on a pension of 50K a year ? I can. My pension is 50K a year and thanks to Rahm, as of January, I will be paying $ 1360 per month for health insurance, for two non medicare people. That leaves me a net of $ 2250 per month. Not a lot left to live on.
as a retired p.o after. 31yrs. no clout but still feel fortunate to have a pension and enjoyed the job,regardless of the stress,changing shifts monthly ,worked in 025,015 totaling17yrs in patrol,and another 14 in area 4. always felt guilty about the 12 days on medical in the 31yrs.but now i feel like a chump for the way as a retiree that i have been treated by the current administration,just informing me that my wife and my health insurance premiums just surpassed 1339 a month I'm now 63yrs and I'm applying for a job as a security guard on midnites
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