Illinois FOP Endorses Quinn?
Quinn released how many hundreds of violent Illinois offenders, endangering the lives of citizens and the police, but the Illinois FOP think he's a better deal than Rauner?
- Governor Pat Quinn today was endorsed by the state’s largest public safety organization, the Illinois Fraternal Order of Police, which represents more than 35,000 active duty and retired police officers in Illinois. Today’s major endorsement by the largest public safety organization in Illinois adds to the growing momentum for Governor Quinn’s re-election in 2014.
“Governor Quinn is the strong leader we need to protect the people of Illinois,” said Chris Southwood, President of the Illinois Fraternal Order of Police State Lodge (FOP). “There is only one candidate in this race with a proven record of making the tough decisions to protect public safety. Governor Quinn is on our side fighting every day to keep our communities safe and we are proud to endorse him in this important election.”
Yes, Quinn is the only one in the race empowered to make those decisions - Rauner doesn't hold office. But we take issue with "tough decisions to protect public safety." Letting robbers, thieves, burglars, etc go free before their sentences are completed doesn't contribute anything to public safety. In fact, e-mails released yesterday hint at a deeper connection concerning Quinn's Neighborhood Recovery Initiative as a "slush fund" steering money to connected entities in exchange for votes for Quinn:
- The former agency head overseeing Gov. Pat Quinn’s troubled anti-violence program gave state lawmakers a contrasting picture Wednesday, saying the 2010 initiative largely worked and created jobs and opportunities during a violent time for the Chicago area.
Barbara Shaw, former executive director of the Illinois Violence Prevention Authority, spoke publicly for the first time about the now-defunct program, spending more than five hours detailing how the program was run.
Painting a different picture, the GOP seized on 2010 emails from Quinn’s former chief of staff released to the commission mentioning the program in the context of the competitive 2010 election. Questions over the program have dogged Quinn’s current re-election bid against Republican Bruce Rauner.
Just who we'd want our endorsement to go to. Smooth move Southwood.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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He's probably more concerned about Rauner's determination to take pensions away than Quinn's ineptitude.
Southwood is a tool if he thinks that..... In 2010 every Chicago Police Officer was killed by a parolee or probationer..... Quinn and the rest of the dummycrats need to go...
Do you actually ever believe the endorsements?
Isn't this just about people in high positions protecting their own jobs and wealth?
Politics. Hooray for me and eff all you cause I got mine..so let's keep the status quo. /sarcasm
This is why fear campaigns are used as tools. Oh, there's too much going on right now to change leadership. See how it works?
The reason the State Lodge of the FOP is endorsing Quinn is because Rauner has previously stated he will change the state pensions for public employees.
You would think a State Lodge would, at least send out survey to the local lodges. Crock of you know what.
You have to pick one or the other!
complaining and not voting do nothing.
The same as voting on the contract.
Rauner is the only Choice.
How do you keep an unsafe community safe.
Everyone in the FOP should withdraw from the FOP, and form another Fraternal Organization in protest.
Supporting Gov Potatohead? One of the guys who's been around since the days of another Criminal Governor (Walker), got called a "Ghost payroller" by Durbin, and who has been involved in this screwing of the pensions for decades?
That's who the FOP endorsed? >facepalm< Follow the money
I am in absolute shock that IL FOP made Quinn's endorsement. Do you know how many letters my family has written to Quinn regarding him releasing offenders early (ie. serving only days or weeks of a sentence) endangering every member of the public and all of police officers!? I am really, really disgusted that our own police union backs a backstabber, criminal politician! I am writing the State and National Lodge about this immediately. It won't make a difference, but its quite sad that we don't even have support of our own police union. If FOP doesn't even care or back our officers up, who else will? No one. Shame on you IL FOP! The next officer who God forbid gets hurt or killed because of a criminal released, IL FOP should be equally responsible. This is a slap in the face and kick in the gut to every working police officer and their family who worries about them. I expected this from some anti-cop group, not a police funded union. I want my IL contribution eliminated from my dues because of this, get off your butt DEAN.
Always the lesser of 2 evils. Bruce, if he wins, won't take a pension or a salary. Gee Thanks, Bruce! U have enough money to comfortably cover at least 2 generations under U. Stakes in The Bo Sox, Bulls, some other big boy's toy in Pro Sports as well.
There's not an orifice in Bruce's body that isn't spitting out money. Let's get a guy in there that is still in touch w/people that will never get rich, some1 that relates to us. I don't party ID, but did U see Pat's commercial where he boasts of the Ford jobs he pats his back fat over?
The current Gov gets in the driver's seat of the Ford, where the viewer can see Ford employees riding shot gun and 2 in the back. Seat belts come on and he turns to the back passengers and says "I'm driving." no shit, Shirley. U'r behind the wheel and beginning to press the accelerator. It's obvios that U'r operating the Ford. The Plates say something like Gov 1. That's Y I don't party ID cuz U never know which one U'r wasting U'r vote on.....
Registered Voter
Wonder where those hundreds of violent Illinois offenders are now 4 years later....
How embarrassing and so frustrating to the membership. What a joke
Would you prefer Rauner????? He will likely push for pension reform, ie. no pension for you and me. Will have to vote for the moron again and hope he kicks the pension can down the road for a few more decades. Sad, but true.
Rauners current plan is to freeze your pension where its at and throwing the rest of your years into a 401K. For example, if you had 17 years on the job at 40 years old, you would retire at 55 or maybe even 60 with having done 32-37 years and still only get 34% pension. The other 15-20 years would not count towards your pension, just the money you put into a 401K. Now you will have some cops who will say" Fine give me my money in a 401K, I will make more that I would the old way". Think about it, what type of moves would a copper make with their 401K, even if self directed that would give a return better than 75-80% of your salary the rest of your lie. Quinn is the lesser of two evils.
St. Louis getting squirrelly?
Another innocent black child shot and killed after shooting at a police officer?
Absolute sellout. Pathetic. I can understand a no endorsement for Gov. this year. But not this incompetent, buffoon.
How stupid the Illinois FOP is in endorsing Quinn. The state is bankrupt.
Gotta go with Quinn.
Like Blagojevich, Quinn is the one to do lesser damage and better protect workers like teachers, firefighters, police, and other non-professionals.
Rauner is a lying goof.
First words out of my mouth when I read this was :
"You've gotta be ****ing kidding me"
That's like a henhouse electing the fox to guard it.
I get it though. The FOP seems to be more like the FOQ ( The Fraternal Order of Quinn)
and it looks like y'all are getting FOQ'd.
and here I thought mashed potatoes were on the menu.
am in absolute shock that IL FOP made Quinn's endorsement. Do you know how many letters my family has written to Quinn regarding him releasing offenders early (ie. serving only days or weeks of a sentence) endangering every member of the public and all of police officers!? I am really, really disgusted that our own police union backs a backstabber, criminal politician! I am writing the State and National Lodge about this immediately. It won't make a difference, but its quite sad that we don't even have support of our own police union. If FOP doesn't even care or back our officers up, who else will? No one. Shame on you IL FOP! The next officer who God forbid gets hurt or killed because of a criminal released, IL FOP should be equally responsible. This is a slap in the face and kick in the gut to every working police officer and their family who worries about them. I expected this from some anti-cop group, not a police funded union. I want my IL contribution eliminated from my dues because of this, get off your butt DEAN.
This is Dean's buddy. Dean and his crew fought to get Chris Southwood elected just three months ago. How did the Lodge 7 Trustee vote? Ask them at the next meeting.
And these endorsements are backed up by the Membership ?????? I think not ! Total bullshit !
Candidates for the Governor's Race...one's odd, the other is odder..!!! Joke's on us.
Gotta go with Quinn.
Like Blagojevich, Quinn is the one to do lesser damage and better protect workers like teachers, firefighters, police, and other non-professionals.
Rauner is a lying goof.
10/09/2014 03:53:00 AM
Rauner has repeatedly said police and fire pensions are not going to be touched. How do you keep missing that?
Quinn and his group are either corrupt or completely incompetent. Take our pick. Leave them in and the State goes bankrupt. Don't you get that?
Someone made a comparison to sitting in a football stadium. Do you want to sit with the Governors of Wisconsin and Indiana, two states that are now in the black? Or do you want to sit on the side with Durbin, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi? That is the real choice.
Pat Quinn is beholden to those who write checks for his campaign fund. Rauner couldn't care less about money since he has a ton of it. Checks and balances dictates that Rauner should be our next governor.
A pal of Hillary's no pal of mine.
Don't worry Bruce, Police don't vote.
Fuck fop not one vote in my house
"Rauner is the only Choice"
I agree, but he is a poor choice. however I will vote for Raunner, no matter who the FOP endorsed without asking for my input.
Endorsements mean absolutely nothing to me. I vote for the person who has my best interest in mind. Quinn is certainly not a friend to the police. Not that thrilled about Rauner but he has my vote.
Does the state organ have an address, or do they just work out of PQ's pocket?
I was in the Electricans Union before coming on the job and was in a 401K pension system. Sorry but it was far better and had higher returns than Defered Comp. Plus there was no issue of my employer not putting in a percentage because they don't. I would have no problem going back to it. Everyone complaining probably never had a 401K or are missed informed. Also my father was a Teamster truck driver for 32 years, 401K and made a lot of money. 401Ks are not that evil.
I don't see this as a big deal. Quinn is far from the ideal candidate. He's got as many warts as a frog.
That being said he's very much the lesser of two evils in this race.
A vote for Rauner is a vote for Rahm. Rahm and Rauner are thick as THIEVES... literally. They're both Hell bent on "reforming", a.k.a. stealing, our pensions.
They would be a tag team very much against our best interests.
My opinion on endorsements is this: Unless the candidate absolutely says, "I'm going to support and work with/for you/your group in every way I can", then don't endorse anyone. Don't endorse Madigan because if we don't, later on down the line, he may screw with us. Don't endorse a guy who is the lesser of two evils. Endorse the guy who is going to do the things our organization needs him to do for us. If they promise us the world and then don't come through, remember it the next time they're up for reelection.
Basically though, this city, county, and state needs a political enema. Rauner may want to change our pensions, but the Daleys, Madigans, Cullertons, Durbins etc...who have been in power for 30 or more years have gotten it to the brink. Vote em all out.
Nope not me. IM no potatoe picker. Im voting Rauner. Look what democrats have done to this once great city/state. Maybe a business man is what we need? Because a long list of Al Capones isn't getting it done.
FOP disappointed me for the last time. I am now back to throwing out the monthly vomitus nonsense fop sends me. A nd will walk out of the room everytime they come to lie at roll call.
I feel so sorry for you young people on this job. You are truly fucked.
Now is the perfect time for a different union organization to make a play. They would get a serious look from the rank and file. It's time let's get some real fresh blood running our union.
A vote for Quinn backs the Obama office. A vote for rauner backs 9.5. Were screwed either way. Bad guys out early or pension changes. I'm voting for a chance a saving my pension.
sheeple
ask yourself........
are you better off now than you were 4 years ago??
do not vote for any incumbent!!
nobody can be worse than what we have now
FOP endorsed your retirement. You're welcome.
Usually this kind of endorsement is about who they think is going to win and they don't want to piss the presumed winner off.
The same reason the NRA backs mediocre candidates over much better ones sometimes.
Rauner? I guess you don't like your pension, SCC, huh?
The residents of the city of Chicago are Democrats. It's a known fact. Thus the police should also be democrats.
Is it just people in Chicago have no pride and like pAin.
Would it ever occur to the State Lodge to actually poll it's members before making an endorsement?
It would appear Southwood is protecting his own position with the endorsement and could care less what police officers actually want.
I don't know a single LEO who would vote for Quinn. Quinn's scare tactic of "Raunder = pension change" is not enough for me to endure 4 more years of Pat Quinn's stupidity.
Anonymous said...
Supporting Gov Potatohead? One of the guys who's been around since the days of another Criminal Governor (Walker), got called a "Ghost payroller" by Durbin, and who has been involved in this screwing of the pensions for decades?
That's who the FOP endorsed? >facepalm< Follow the money
10/09/2014 12:45:00 AM
Absolutely agree.
pensions thats why,look for us to pay 11% per check and the city will pay at least $300 mil of that $600 mil they will owe in 2016? With rauner it will become a 401k! ALL THIS WILL COME OUT AFTER THE ELECTION.
Either way were fucked. Potato head or Tiny Dancer's secret buddy ! Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still voting for Evil.
The FOP didn't have to endorse anyone . Unreal.
"... [W]hich represents more than 35,000 active duty and retired police officers in Illinois."
Somehow, I don't think they "represent" them....
The reason the State Lodge of the FOP is endorsing Quinn is because Rauner has previously stated he will change the state pensions for public employees.
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If you listened to Rauner talk he has said it on more than one occasion and has said it on various Chicago radio shows...public safety police/fire are different their jobs are different and pensions should be also..
How can anyone vote for Quinn and the rest of the idiots that put this state in the position we are in for the last 30 years.
Yep...keep pushing for Rauner. Look at Chris Christie, Scott Walker etc amd what they did to public sector employees. You guys bitch about insurance, pay and everything else. See what happens if Rauner wins.
Not surprising in a dumbocratic corrupt broken State.
But pathetic.
MS
I don't like either of them.
So in this situation.......better to go with the devil you know.
What the heck is an Illinois Violence Prevention Authority anyway? And if it worked how come they didn't think of that earlier??
Always the lesser of 2 evils. Bruce, if he wins, won't take a pension or a salary.
but he will take ours...
You mopes who think that Quinn is the best choice need to get your head out of your ass. THE STATE IS GOING BANKRUPT. Quinn and Durban will tell you all the BS you want to listen to, but at the end of the day the are driving the state into bankruptcy. Then a judge will determine how much of a pension you get. Vote for someone who is willing to stop the bleed now before we bleedout. Save Illinois and vote out anyone currently in office. And for those of you who think that anyone with money shouldn't be in office, think about it. Poor people don't create jobs, growth and capital. Rich people do.
01:29. Is 100 percent right. Rauner said exactly that. Your pension will freeze with your years of service. 15 years as the police means a 15 year pension then 401k. He has kept his mouth shut lately about pensions because he hopes to trick some into voting for him. You are a fool if you think a 401k is anything close to a pension. Don't get me wrong they are both slime. Always remember Rahm is his good buddy and he is the person who made Rahm a millionaire.
Quinn gets my vote hands down.
Anonymous said...
Rauners current plan is to freeze your pension where its at and throwing the rest of your years into a 401K. For example, if you had 17 years on the job at 40 years old, you would retire at 55 or maybe even 60 with having done 32-37 years and still only get 34% pension. The other 15-20 years would not count towards your pension, just the money you put into a 401K. Now you will have some cops who will say" Fine give me my money in a 401K, I will make more that I would the old way". Think about it, what type of moves would a copper make with their 401K, even if self directed that would give a return better than 75-80% of your salary the rest of your lie. Quinn is the lesser of two evils.
10/09/2014 01:29:00 AM
Many coppers fancy themselves sharp investors, better than Warren Buffet even. And of course, everyone knows there are no sharper financial wizards around than Chicago cops. I've been listening to their wisdom in a squad car for many years.
Quinn is the lesser of two evils, this time by a large margin. Last time we had a better Republican candidate and still Quinn kept his job.
Anonymous said...
Everyone in the FOP should withdraw from the FOP, and form another Fraternal Organization in protest.
Supporting Gov Potatohead? One of the guys who's been around since the days of another Criminal Governor (Walker), got called a "Ghost payroller" by Durbin, and who has been involved in this screwing of the pensions for decades?
That's who the FOP endorsed? >facepalm< Follow the money
10/09/2014 12:45:00 AM
Everyone who suggests on blogs what everyone else should do should get off their butts and work to make it happen.
Well, it's a choice of dumb and dumber. Neither are any good.
yeah, I saw the big maroon SUV with the "FOP" plates turning off 31st south onto lagrange rd....
had to think to myself...
nice truck, too bad you have no pension though.
like I've seen in this comment section countless times...
"you get what you vote for, deal with it!"
Looks like King Madigan wins again!
The farm section of the FOP has no balls!
Democrates are a cancer to society!
Ot
Another police shooting in Ferguson
http://rt.com/usa/194372-stlouis-fatal-officer-involved-shooting/
Secession!!!
Why couldn't they have publicly endorsed NEITHER candidate!!!!!! Was our local FOP Lodge 7 complicit in this decision. It's time to secede from this political hack of an organization.. When are you officers going to stop voting in the same corrupt self serving groups. We have enough votes to have our own independent union that could stand up to the political thieves. Isn't it time?!!!!
I don't care if crime goes up.
I want my pension.
I will vote for Quinn.
In case you fools haven't noticed, here is the Rauner/Emanuel plan. They will run the pensions into bankruptcy and take their chances in federal court. The bankruptcy will be 5-10 years down the road and both of them will leave office before it takes effect.
Who got paid off on this one?
Why can't the FOP remain neutral on politics?
Da MACHINE always takes care of its own.
If Hitler was a democrat running in Illinois,the Ilinnois FOP would back him.
who is that old sarge on tv
bet he was an old man daley guy back in the 50's
for pension rteform , change Quinn is the lesser of the two evils
Flush my Dues
Why do they have to endorse anyone since they both suck?
You only have two choices here, neither one is any good so how do you choose? I think Rauner will really go after our pensions and we will lose. With Quinn he is a goof and we might at least have a fighting chance and win.
Rauner is a lying goof.
10/09/2014 03:53:00 AM
Please, fool, show me the proof that Rauner has lied! Because there's plenty of proof that Quinn is a lying goof.
Quinn cares about pensions? You're kidding, right? Quinn has led us into a bankrupt hole that will take generations to fix.
Pull your head out and try to think clearly for a moment. We are the worst state in the Union, and the United States is no longer the world's largest economy - China now takes the lead.
The U.S. is no longer the leader of the free world. We are crumbling from years of "progressive" Democrat thought - a country of welfare rats and entitled boobs sprawled on their porches and accusing the "rich" of having everything.
Black leaders and liberal school teachers have effectively usurped the press and made police work a nightmare.
This is all courtesy of Democrats, including the main Rat himself who has turned the White House into a worldwide joke.
And who has been here stumping for Quinn over the last week? Obama, Moochelle, and Hillary!
So hate on Rauner all you want. Just remember: a vote for Quinn is a vote for Obama, George Soros, Hillary, Moochelle, Rahm and Madigan!
Wise up, goof!
You guys that are thinking that by voting for Quinn you are saving your pension better think again. Look at it this way.
Let's say you had a 100K to invest and there were only two companies that you could invest that money in.
Company A whose CEO inherited the company from his dad. Since receiving that inheritance he has run the company into the ground and is now on the verge of bankruptcy. It pays almost no dividends, it's employees are about to be laid off while the CEO get's paid a huge salary and that same CEO takes care of his friends. The outlook for the company is bleak and no one expects it to survive.
Company B has a CEO who started the company and built it from the ground up. He didn't receive it in an inheritance. The company is paying huge dividends to it's investors, the employees are happy because they know that the outlook for the company is good which translates into continued long term employment there, it is a Fortune 500 company and overall, things look pretty good. It is expected to be around for years to come.
Which company would YOU invest in? Think about it. Quinn represents Company A while Rauner represents Company B. If you think your pension will be there in say twenty years by voting for Quinn, you are only fooling yourself. He will do what every single democratic politician nationwide has done which is to further drag their state/city/county into fiscal insolvency.
"He's probably more concerned about Rauner's determination to take pensions away than Quinn's ineptitude"
You should be as well, Quinn will be long gone by the time you retire...
"Rauners current plan is to freeze your pension where its at and throwing the rest of your years into a 401K. For example, if you had 17 years on the job at 40 years old, you would retire at 55 or maybe even 60 with having done 32-37 years and still only get 34% pension. The other 15-20 years would not count towards your pension, just the money you put into a 401K. Now you will have some cops who will say" Fine give me my money in a 401K, I will make more that I would the old way". Think about it, what type of moves would a copper make with their 401K, even if self directed that would give a return better than 75-80% of your salary the rest of your lie. Quinn is the lesser of two evils.
10/09/2014 01:29:00 AM"
Always amazed at the financial Gurus wasting their talents pushing a Beat Car,lol
I'm sorry but this is too funny:
---> 'Chris Southwood, “There is only one candidate in this race with a proven record of making the tough decisions to protect public safety. Governor Quinn is on our side fighting every day to keep our communities safe...' <---
Yep, that's Potato-Head alright, 'Gov Public Safety'. That is, except for all the Dangerous Felons -- from Murders to Rapists -- he unleashed on the citizens of Illinois by throwing their prison cell doors wide open. Not to mention the TAX MONEY of hard working Illinoisans he funneled to gang-banging career criminals in order to buy votes in Da Hood. And last but not least, is how 'Gov Public Safety' did his damnedest to delay and obstruct Law Abiding citizens from the God Given RIGHT to defend themselves with a firearm -- FROM from the scum sucking cretins he unleashed on the public in the first place.
'Public Safety', I don't think so. And what's the current Odds on Poatato-Head going off to prison too for all his illegal bullshit being investigated now like his 'Buying Votes in Da Hood'. Has to be like 60--40 that he'll be going to Club Fed too.
So excuse me but anyone who could still back Poatato-Head -- or any democrat especially in Illinois -- is akin to abused wives who stay with the cretins who beat the shit out of them. *Hoping* that maybe, just maybe, next time they'll only get beat a little bit.
Albert Einstein explained 'odd behavior' like this with his definition of insanity: 'Doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results'.
Until we start running our FOP and its lawyers as a legitimate organization ran like the big 5 (minus the top level corruption) in running our business and retirement matters. And not like a watch dropping hints and taking collections.....
For Now........
Vote yes on the contract.....vote yes for Quinn.....regroup reorganize, start thinking of the thousands of lives, and the millions of dollars.....now take it seriously lest you find yourself in the place before you got the job...except your 20+ older.
"Rauner" will shake things up ..we don't know how..but unless there is competence instead of rumor we don't know this devil....
Prince Valium
Quinn is not saying he will cut public pensions, Quinn will cut them before he has to cut entitlements to the poor in reality.
Rauner will attempt to cut public pensions but will get resistance from the state legislature. However he will attempt to save this state financially.
I wouldn't endorse either. Write in Seiser, he runs it.
What's Rauner's match on Our new 401k? 1/2 a buck? A dollar up to 6% we The Police lay down.
That Dude, Rauner, is going to have a field day w/our ignorance.
I'm saying The Whole Rosary for the young peeps that just came on or have very little X. The new POs don't understand the 401k system & how it works. If that's true that they'll get say 5 years of a pension then the rest a 401k then I don't see how they won't have 2 jobs coming on. The job itself & a good hiring of a money manager. Most of these kids don't know MSNBC or Bloomberg. They most certainly R gonna have to get used to that Ticker at the bottom of the screen.
This will B taking advantage of not only the Men & Women that have been on the gig for awhile, but it's the rich that have no conscience when it comes to young Coppers in their 20 & early 30 that aren't trained in the market and don't have millions to fall back on.
I'm not a fan of Pat am most certainly not a fan Bruce Almighty.
Registered Voter
Guys/gals, as a previous post stated earlier, Quinn is the lesser of two evils. I totally agree with those complaining about Quinn releasing the criminals a while back (I wrote him letters protesting the move) but that ship has sailed. We are currently fighting for our future and well being and I feel Quinn, by incompetence or "loyalty", won't/can't hurt us as much. Rauner is an elitist scumbag who, with Rahm, will try to ruin our futures. I have never voted for a Democrat in my life but this may be the one time I do. I believe in fiscal responsibility and getting Illinois back on track but we all should know that the burden will placed solely on our backs and not on the elites or the entitled.
Which political party literally sold the streets we paid for out from under our feet then put camera's on them to squeeze even more out of us?
I know what I'm doing come November.
Straight republican and no on every judge.
The reason the State Lodge of the FOP is endorsing Quinn is because Rauner has previously stated he will change the state pensions for public employees.
10/09/2014 12:19:00 AM
Rauner is on video tape saying that police officers and fire fighters do a special kind of job and that he believes police and fire fighter pensions should not be messed with.
"The reason the State Lodge of the FOP is endorsing Quinn is because Rauner has previously stated he will change the state pensions for public employees"
When did he say that?
The radio interview I heard he stated that the only people who need pension "reform" are those collecting more then 1 pension and those collecting more then $100,000.00 a year.
Sounds good to me.
And remember the last time Quinn ran he promised not to touch anybody's pensions then went after Illinois AFSCME until overturned by the state supreme court. Make an informed decision
Beware Rauner.... He is a union buster. If he is elected he and Rham will destroy all unions that is their goal. Potato head might be an idiot but he will not mess with the unions...why do you think pension reform has not succeeded in Illinois???
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Rauners current plan is to freeze your pension where its at and throwing the rest of your years into a 401K. For example, if you had 17 years on the job at 40 years old, you would retire at 55 or maybe even 60 with having done 32-37 years and still only get 34% pension. The other 15-20 years would not count towards your pension, just the money you put into a 401K. Now you will have some cops who will say" Fine give me my money in a 401K, I will make more that I would the old way". Think about it, what type of moves would a copper make with their 401K, even if self directed that would give a return better than 75-80% of your salary the rest of your lie. Quinn is the lesser of two evils
Source or link? And even if that was HIS plan, how would he get it past Madigan and the legislature? Your guys are idiots if you believe this cr@p.
Cops, Fire, doesn't matter, all government workers are the same. Bait them with a promise of more and you all fall in line.
WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THE $$$ WILL COME FROM?!?!?!?!
GOV spending accounts for 49% of GDP, up from 7%. What does the government produce? NOTHING.
All we hear about is the pension crisis. Illinois debt has gone from bad to worse under Quinn, yet somehow you think he's going to provide pension relief?
Are you guys really that stupid?
Wasn't there something in the comments the past week about this going to happen because the heads of the state fop were appointed to some state boards by potatoe head? And I thought Blago was bad. Guess Quinn wasn't really missing in action when Blago was still here.
If We don't vote, We don't have a voice. I'd much rather have Quinn than manipulating cheats Rahm-Rauner.
Any friend of Rahm Emanuel should NOT be voted into any political office.
Rauner will bring or buy up businesses all over the state, show us a huge growth pattern, then sell off or bankrupt these shills in 5 years when he and Rahm move on to D.C.
Rauner will not only give Rahm a pass on the Pensions payments, but find a way for Rahm to diminish the benefit as his other pal did to Affordable Health Care.
Quinn like any democrat, surely uses tax money to buy some votes, but I believe our Pensions will be safer.
more inmates getting released from the illinois department of corrections are immediately placed in former parolee status freeing up parole officers reducing their case load doing more with less resources but lets spend more money on school children watching them walk to school bus them to-from school breakfast and lunch and after school programs-open the flood gates for more new arrivals into the state and have more children-vote democratic!
the vote has always got to be there or else power is transferred over to the Republicans!
My father is a 75 year old retired cop with COPD and atrial fibrillation. If you idiots vote for Rauner because Quinn gave you more work to do, then I hope you are forced to work security at Walmart when your fucking pension is gone and you are forced off the job.
Quinn is a piece of shit, but at least you have your pension with that piece of shit.
And a 401K is nothing compared to the police pension. And if you think you can make personal investments so that they equal your pension, then you should be a hedge fund manager not a cop.
Hahahah, yeah ok go ahead and vote for rauner. I hate Quinn but he is by far the lesser of the two evils when it comes to our pensions and financial future. I'm republican for the most part but this idiot rauner is a snake in the grass for us.
It's about pensions SCC.
Rauner is no Johnny Law, look who's backing him.
Remember, he's a "fiscal conservative, but social moderate(liberal)". This tune is getting old. It means he wants to hose the employees, enrich his friends, and keep supporting the welfare class.
Rauner will get Rahm off the hook from making the big pension payments by 2016.
Why do you think Rahm hasn't made any plans for it? Because he knows Rauner will amend the law. This sets up the fund for bankruptcy.
Quinn will be fairer when this pension issue is resolved.
Rauner will do Rahm's bidding and crash the pension into bankruptcy through inaction.
You will get back what you paid into it, spread out over a period of time as established by a bankruptcy court. That will be the extant of the city's liability once the pension dies.
Quinn isn't perfect, but he's better for us the Rauner. This is a deep blue state that doesn't like the police. Priorities first, save your pension.
Vote for Quinn.
Rauners current plan is to freeze your pension where its at and throwing the rest of your years into a 401K. For example, if you had 17 years on the job at 40 years old, you would retire at 55 or maybe even 60 with having done 32-37 years and still only get 34% pension. The other 15-20 years would not count towards your pension, just the money you put into a 401K. Now you will have some cops who will say" Fine give me my money in a 401K, I will make more that I would the old way". Think about it, what type of moves would a copper make with their 401K, even if self directed that would give a return better than 75-80% of your salary the rest of your lie. Quinn is the lesser of two evils.
You also have to factor in opportunity cost. Expecting a copper to invest in a 401k late in the game without the years for it to grow is not reasonable.
Go ahead and vote for Rauner, but don't whine when he fucks you by converting your hard earned pension to a 401k.
If the fix is in where's our end? Or, does the state ledge expect us to be bobbleheads and just do as were told? It sounds more like they're an extension of "The Party" as opposed to working for the police.
19th ward at it again
http://breakingnews.suntimes.com/transportation/blue-line-trains-standing-in-loop-for-police-activity/
Assault type rifle and the media isn't blowing this up.
Fop needs to tell us the police and retired members what it is we need to know about either candidate,pros and cons,inform us!!
Lt Masters please take the 015 tact spot so you can leave us alone!!!!
Sadly, I'll hold my nose and vote for Quinn precisely because of Rauner's being anti-public employee, and I'm convinced Rauner will try to gut public pensions to make money for his friends in finance.
It is the lesser of two evils to support Quinn. How can any municipal employee in a pension program advocate voting for Rauner? He openly despises pension systems and encourages 401k style retirement accounts. This is even for current employees presently contributing to a pension system. Maybe I am not fortunate enough to have over one million dollars currently in an annuity as the Rauner supporters. Then I wouldn't concern myself with a pension either.
Quinn will be better for our pensions.
Rauner is the "combine" candidate this year.
Just like George Ryan was backed by the Daleys and LaSalle St. because he was as corrupt as a $3 bill.
Rauner and Emanuel want your pension money for their hedge fund buddies.
Start voting in your own self interests, not just straight Republican.
Hey guys not LE, just wanted to share:
http://abc7chicago.com/news/blue-line-trains-delayed-after-shots-fired/343393/
In the story it says it was a .45 assault rifle.
In the pic it appears the officer is holding an AR style upper.
No mentions of mags, but the guy had 50 "loose" rounds on him.
Was he hand loading a mythical .45 cal assault rifle?
Why is channel 7 making shit up?
Not a peep out of the FOP on the Ebola crisis and officer safety?
Must have thousands of hazmats stored away already then huh?
Did you get your training yet?
Quinn is paying thousands of "Safe Passage" no shows $92.00 dollars a day to pretend thay are walking children to and from school. That's $460 dollars a week on top of Food stamps, housing, free school with 2 meals a day. What has he done for working, tax- paying people in this State except raise Taxes. Wake up people.
Does anyone with less than 10 years on the job believe they will even get a pension? Quinn and his fellow Democrats are promising the world to get your vote but they will bankrupt the state within the next five years. Rauner may say he is freezing the pensions but at least with him there might actually be a pension. Under Quinn we get what Detroit gets, pennies on the dollar. Nice job FLOP!
Rauners current plan is to freeze your pension where its at and throwing the rest of your years into a 401K. For example, if you had 17 years on the job at 40 years old, you would retire at 55 or maybe even 60 with having done 32-37 years and still only get 34% pension. The other 15-20 years would not count towards your pension, just the money you put into a 401K. Now you will have some cops who will say" Fine give me my money in a 401K, I will make more that I would the old way". Think about it, what type of moves would a copper make with their 401K, even if self directed that would give a return better than 75-80% of your salary the rest of your lie. Quinn is the lesser of two evils.
10/09/2014 01:29:00 AM
Where did you come up with this BULLSHIT..
Quinn lies
So the head Moose Lodge with guns endorses Mr. Potatohead...I don't think so. No fuckin' way I am voting for a dummycRAT. That doesn't mean Rauner is getting my vote either.
Update...Karen Lewis had a brain tumor removed. Will under go treatment. Out of race for mayor.
Hey idiots, you have to go with Rauner because he's the lesser of two evils. Voting for Rauner is like voting for Rahm. Rauner has our pensions in his crosshairs. At least with Quinn we can buy some time.
hey who is the younger 7-10 years guy in tac with the bald head and mustache and gotee in 004 tac?? Pretty sure he has a twin on the job also unless I just have seen him working special employment elsewhere? Are you kidding me dude? Enough of your BS, your stories are terrible, your personality is terrible and you couldnt be more full of yourself. Stop on every job telling everyone about your dad and his war stories.. word around is that he spend 25 years working the desk hidden at 35th street because he scammed some injury. Everytime I see this guy in 004 hes nice but just as phoney as they come and the stories are brutal. 004, check this moron and get him in line.. what a complete geek.
Tio Hardiman and Corey Brooks stole millions of dollars through the NRI program. Hardiman stole it thrpugh CeaseFire while Brooks siphoned it through his church's fake gang program.
Hardiman and Brooks then screwed Quinn for his generosity. Hardiman ran for governor and drained votes from Quinn while Brooks is giving the Republicans fake support.
Polipricks in Illinois.
And the media and BGA remain...mute.
What good is that pension doing for the retired Detroit coppers.
If something doesn't change, this whole state will be another Detroit, but you'll still have your pension.
In case you fools haven't noticed, here is the Rauner/Emanuel plan. They will run the pensions into bankruptcy and take their chances in federal court. The bankruptcy will be 5-10 years down the road and both of them will leave office before it takes effect.
10/09/2014 08:28:00 AM
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HEY GENIUS - You don't think Quinn and the Incompetents YOU'VE elected and re-elected and re-elected aren't going to wind up in the same place? AND probably sooner.
The incumbents have not done ANYTHING for you except promise you futures in return for a vote today.
Well guess what, GENIUS? What is the weight of a promise? NOTHING - and that's exactly what was guaranteed to you in exchange for your vote.
The city and state are headed for bankruptcy!?!?!?
Headed? We've already arrived with over $100 Billion in pension shortfalls.
CHANGE OUT ALL INCUMBENTS AND TAKE A NEW TACK. Give a person four years - if they don't deliver - vote in the next guy.
You don't keep re-electing incompetent boobs. Well, maybe you do if you're insane.
Rauner won't take a salary - how much money has Quinn already sucked down off the public trough?????
WELL???? Wake up and get off the crackpipe.
Latest anti-Rauner commercial is a joke.
OOOoooooooo,...Assault rifles....OOoooo the Bogey Man...Rauner is for them? (I don't know for sure but that's what they infer)
WHO CARES? You need a Damn Assault Rifle if you want to go downtown.
Rauner should get all the NRA vote.
The Democrats are REALLY reaching with that commercial. LAME. REAL LAME.
They should be running an anti- Quinn newsclip on how he handed out over $50 Million in the last election to buy votes. Didn't see any of that money in the white suburbs.
Where are all the TV Reporters on THAT grand jury story????
Anonymous said...
The reason the State Lodge of the FOP is endorsing Quinn is because Rauner has previously stated he will change the state pensions for public employees.
10/09/2014 12:19:00 AM
Get it in writing and signed in blood.
Anonymous said...
Beware Rauner.... He is a union buster. If he is elected he and Rham will destroy all unions that is their goal. Potato head might be an idiot but he will not mess with the unions...why do you think pension reform has not succeeded in Illinois???
10/09/2014 10:01:00 AM
Around 1975 the Garment workers ran a series of ads and had this little song written that was on the commercials.
Most if not all of those people and their kids and grandkids are no longer employed and all those jobs are in China, Vietnam, Maylasia, Indonesia etc.
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Look for the union label
when you are buying that coat, dress or blouse.
Remember somewhere our union's sewing,
our wages going to feed the kids, and run the house.
We work hard, but who's complaining?
Thanks to the I.L.G. we're paying our way!
So always look for the union label,
it says we're able to make it in the U.S.A.!
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It was the management of those companies that moved the factories "offshore" and our own US Government that failed to take action and let it happen.
The public workers unions are among the few that are left.
Anonymous said...
Hey guys not LE, just wanted to share:
http://abc7chicago.com/news/blue-line-trains-delayed-after-shots-fired/343393/
In the story it says it was a .45 assault rifle.
In the pic it appears the officer is holding an AR style upper.
No mentions of mags, but the guy had 50 "loose" rounds on him.
Was he hand loading a mythical .45 cal assault rifle?
Why is channel 7 making shit up?
10/09/2014 02:47:00 PM
.458 SOCOM caliber is a variation of .45 cal, heavier bullet and different brass, much more powder
.458 diameter bullet, not mythical, Wilson Combat makes one although I doubt a mope in the subway had one of those. That is a specialized round.
There are .45 ACP semi-auto rifles being made that take the standard .45 cal pistol round.
Anonymous said...
who is that old sarge on tv
bet he was an old man daley guy back in the 50's
for pension rteform , change Quinn is the lesser of the two evils
Nope,he came on the job in September 65
seiser for gov.
Anonymous said...
The reason the State Lodge of the FOP is endorsing Quinn is because Rauner has previously stated he will change the state pensions for public employees.
10/09/2014 12:19:00 AM
Rauner is on video tape saying that police officers and fire fighters do a special kind of job and that he believes police and fire fighter pensions should not be messed with.
10/09/2014 09:54:00 AM
Direct me to your source, in print or a broadcast clip, depicting Bruce Rauner stating that he would leave police pensions intact and unaltered. He does not have an ounce of the courage that Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker showed when he and his Republican State majority codified protections for police and fire pensions in Wisconsin! Save yourself-Vote Republican for everyone except Bruce Rauner.
They will run the pensions into bankruptcy and take their chances in federal court
If they take my pension. Then I take the air they breathe. Get it?
Hey, "lesser of two evils guy." How many times are you going to repeat yourself? At least 20 posts on here are from one idiot stumping for Quinn. What a loser.
How does the judges and legislatures pension work?
Look at the BGA's data base and count the whos who that worked 4 yrs and in some cases less but are collecting a pension for life with a 3% compounded interest.
How is it that their pension is funded and working well? That's were you need reform
Don't forget the sweetheart pensions Daley and Madigan gave their workers and supporters.
Remember the union guy that worked one day as sub teacher and got the full teachers pension.
Daley worked 30 days for Burke and that qualified him to raise his city pension up around 85,000 a year more.
Democrates stole our Social Security not for elected officials just the working fools, cops, firemen, teachers
Just W T F asked him to speak for us, no poll among the membership that I saw. Remember if Rauner wants to change pensions he has to get the bill passed by the state house and it has to be Constituionally sound.
they endorsed Obama too :(
It is the lesser of two evils to support Quinn. How can any municipal employee in a pension program advocate voting for Rauner?
Because the state is bankrupt!!!!!!!!
Income tax and property tax under QUINN
Quinn was 4F in Vietnam now loves veterans He is a coward and a POS
No cop or veteran should ever vote for him and the madigans
Goodbye Mr. Southwood. Your services are no longer needed with this agency.
Honest to God, where do you guys come up with some of these scenarios.
Vote Republican. Save the State.
The city is not broke. We have almost 2 BILLION in the bank. TIF funds. All our debts could be paid off tomorrow and the city would still have 800 million in the bank. Read the book on Rahm. Rauner and his pals knew when they gave him 18.6 million dollars for two years work they would reap the TIF benefit. Follow the TIF money train and see who is benefiting. Quinn is a clown but he is the one who made the 600 million payment mandatory or all state funds that go to the city will go to the pensions. A vote for Rauner is a vote for Rahm. And yes he did state our pensions would be diminished. I heard it come from him and his female Lt gov say it in radio interviews. He may be back pedaling now just like his minimum wage comments but just wait to see what he and Rahm have in store for us.
Fuck Illinois FOP & FOP Lodge 7. They are both corrupt, lying Democrat Political Tools. Quinn releases hundreds of vient convicted Felons, of which a couple got out and killed or tried to kill Cops, and these sycophant endorse Quinn? W-T-F ?
Career CPD ret. and hopefully done with FOP Bullshit forever. Fuckin liars and traitors to the Law Enforcement Profession.
Bottom line.
Quinn will raise taxes to cover the pension, Rauner won't.
I couldn't care less if Illinois is a shitty place to live. I couldn't care less if gangbangers kill each other in the south side ghettos. I couldn't care less if Quinn lets them all out of prison only to pay us more OT to put them back. I couldn't care less if Illinois thrives or dies.
All I want is MY money. Quinn will pay more than Rauner/Rahm.
The decision is easy.
Rauner is anti-union like most republicans. Plus, the public sector unions contribute massive amounts of money to elections, mainly to Democrats, and then the unions try to secure ridiculously beneficial contracts for their members by negotiating with the very people they help elect, but the FOP is a weak union that can't negotiate. Now the CPS teachers union is a strong one.
I never thought I could vote for Quinn. But Rautner and Rahm are carpetbagger buddies who would screw us royal
How come lt garrido needs to update everything to Facebook?
I believe Rauner said he would not mess with "Retiree's" pensions. Pay close attention to the actual words he says. I have never voted for a Democrat in my life....but as has been stated before here...Quinn is the lesser of 2 evils. Go with the Devil you know. I have 3 years to go and I'll be damned if I am letting my pension go into a 401k where Obama can "redistribute" my earned money to pay for illegals or welfare breeding Democrats. Quinn for the Win.
Cunningham and Hurley already voted for "state" pension reform. I would post the link but I don't know how. Google it Officers. They are lying to you.
Why would voting for Quinn over Rauner (plant) change it?????????
Quinn, who never did anything without being told what to do, is here to help?
If the majority of State reps (Democrat) already voted for pension reform, what is he going to do?
County workers! You voted for Storger so you can keep your spot, and you hated him, but you still did.
Maybe it "helped" in the short run but how about now?
Educate yourselves guys.
Somethings may hurt in the short term, but you have a whole lot left to live.
Quit being a fool.
What NEWS ?????
This was announced on ISPEEVED 10 days ago! (29 September)
The Troopers are mad as hell that nobody asked them or polled them.
Our State Lodge President Chris Southwood is protecting his ass and possibly looking for a spot on the Governors new Team?
The public workers unions are among the few that are left
Im voting for Rauner. FOP isn't a union. Never has been. Its a useless collective bargaining unit that kisses the democratic parties ass.
Rauner has my vote.
Not a peep out of the FOP on the Ebola crisis and officer safety?
Are you kidding me? DoYou expect the FOP to speak up about anything? Fuck FOP!
You guys that are thinking that by voting for Quinn you are saving your pension better think again. Look at it this way.
Let's say you had a 100K to invest and there were only two companies that you could invest that money in.
Company A whose CEO inherited the company from his dad. Since receiving that inheritance he has run the company into the ground and is now on the verge of bankruptcy. It pays almost no dividends, it's employees are about to be laid off while the CEO get's paid a huge salary and that same CEO takes care of his friends. The outlook for the company is bleak and no one expects it to survive.
Company B has a CEO who started the company and built it from the ground up. He didn't receive it in an inheritance. The company is paying huge dividends to it's investors, the employees are happy because they know that the outlook for the company is good which translates into continued long term employment there, it is a Fortune 500 company and overall, things look pretty good. It is expected to be around for years to come.
Which company would YOU invest in? Think about it. Quinn represents Company A while Rauner represents Company B. If you think your pension will be there in say twenty years by voting for Quinn, you are only fooling yourself. He will do what every single democratic politician nationwide has done which is to further drag their state/city/county into fiscal insolvency.
10/09/2014 09:13:00 AM
Good analogy. I know unions have preached hatred of "vulture capitalism," but it was pension investments with private equity firms like Rauner's that yielded returns when the market was down after the 2008 meltdown. Without investments in private equity the funding level of the our pension might be under 30%.
Another fact, with a R governor, treasurer and comptroller, we might have some semblance of checks and balances in state government.
In reality both candidates are against the police!
So what is the answer?
every one is against pensions.
Everyone is against early retirement.
Everyone dislike the police.
I am a one-issue voter: Gun Rights
Your precious "pension" won't save you from the barbarian hordes when society collapses like New Orleans during Katrina
So the head Moose Lodge with guns endorses Mr. Potatohead...I don't think so. No fuckin' way I am voting for a dummycRAT. That doesn't mean Rauner is getting my vote either.
10/09/2014 04:09:00 PM
You get how this works, don't you? If you don't vote for one guy, it's like voting for the other.
Illinois has been about voting for the least rotten guy since I stated voting forty years s ago.
Quinn is a pesky bobblehead on the fringe who is not taken seriously. He is truly not a bad guy at heart but is largely ineffective against the Combine and always will be.
Rauner, on the other hand, is a card-carrying member of the Combine who has been buying his way in for decades.
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130309/ISSUE05/303099981/rauners-gtcr-investments-raise-questions-about-political-connections
http://illinoisfreedom.com/press-releases/pay-play-insiders-reward-one-rauner/
Reelect Quinn and we continue our slow downward spiral as he flails futilely at the Combine. Elect Rauner and we continue our slow downward spiral as the Combine basks in open season, enriching themselves and their cronies at taxpayer expense. Either way, Illinois is doomed.
Someone earlier had the right ticket: vote for neither and vote Republican everywhere else.
Anonymous said...
There's not an orifice in Bruce's body that isn't spitting out money. Let's get a guy in there that is still in touch w/people that will never get rich, some1 that relates to us.
10/09/2014 12:53:00 AM
You are arguably the dumbest person on the planet. How does being wealthy disqualify anyone from public office? You stupidly and blindly continue to buy the "class warfare" garbage that your Dem masters are selling. You are a SHEEP...
Another fact, with a R governor, treasurer and comptroller, we might have some semblance of checks and balances in state government.
10/10/2014 01:32:00 AM
Nice try. Rauner is a Republican cut from the same moldy cloth as George Ryan, Judy Topinka, Jim Thompson and Jim Edgar. They're extreme liberals out to enrich themselves and friends-including Rahm Emanuel. I can barely understand this from a Democrat and I would never accept it from Republicans. Vote for every Republican except Rauner.
Anonymous said...
Bottom line.
Quinn will raise taxes to cover the pension, Rauner won't.
I couldn't care less if Illinois is a shitty place to live. I couldn't care less if gangbangers kill each other in the south side ghettos. I couldn't care less if Quinn lets them all out of prison only to pay us more OT to put them back. I couldn't care less if Illinois thrives or dies.
All I want is MY money. Quinn will pay more than Rauner/Rahm.
The decision is easy.
10/09/2014 09:55:00 PM
It seems you have a misconception of who is responsible for funding your pension. It isn't Quinn or the State of Illinois. They have nothing at all to do with it. No matter if Quinn raises taxes it won't effect our pension. State pensions yes, not Chicago's.
Our pension is responsibility of City of Chicago and us. We fund it along with the City. If our pension fund goes broke the state is not on the hook. City only.
I just mention this so you don't go through another election thinking you are voting for some governor that will help our pension.
30Years of Republican leadership from the Governors Office got us to this point. Always remember that.
Anonymous said...
The city is not broke. We have almost 2 BILLION in the bank. TIF funds. All our debts could be paid off tomorrow and the city would still have 800 million in the bank. Read the book on Rahm. Rauner and his pals knew when they gave him 18.6 million dollars for two years work they would reap the TIF benefit. Follow the TIF money train and see who is benefiting. Quinn is a clown but he is the one who made the 600 million payment mandatory or all state funds that go to the city will go to the pensions. A vote for Rauner is a vote for Rahm. And yes he did state our pensions would be diminished. I heard it come from him and his female Lt gov say it in radio interviews. He may be back pedaling now just like his minimum wage comments but just wait to see what he and Rahm have in store for us.
10/09/2014 09:27:00 PM
Your math is flawed. The City is many billions short on the pensions, 1.2 billion won't bring even the Police pension up to fully funded, not even close. More like 5 or 6 billion.
"Another fact, with a R governor, treasurer and comptroller, we might have some semblance of checks and balances in state government.
10/10/2014 01:32:00 AM"
Really where were the checks & balances during Jim Thompsons tenure, Jim Edgar, & George Ryan. Over 30 years of Republican Governors & here we are blaming a Democrat for their malfeasance
8:28.....
Rauner/Rahm will make a deal with Madigan in 10 seconds to fuck you.
Quinn will be fairer.
Do not really trust rauner, but here is the link to his interview on Police Pensions from wttw....
http://chicagotonight.wttw.com/2014/04/15/rauner-wants-special-deal-police-firefighter-pensions
There is someone or multiple people doing some serious campaigning for Quinn in this post
Yup, vote for Quinn, he done a splendid job, hasn't he!
Walker in Wisconsin straightened out their pension problem in 1 term with no major blood letting. Democrats kick the can down the road and eventually, the pension gets reformed by reducing your payments by maybe half because it's insolvent. We have to put conservatives in charge of the government to rein in spending or we're all screwed, that is except the 0bama phone set, did you ever notice how they are always given more and never demonized about being useless, you're demonized because you have the nerve to want to keep a couple of dollars of your pay.
Keep voting democrat, dumb asses.
Anonymous said...
hey who is the younger 7-10 years guy in tac with the bald head and mustache and gotee in 004 tac?? Pretty sure he has a twin on the job also unless I just have seen him working special employment elsewhere? Are you kidding me dude? Enough of your BS, your stories are terrible, your personality is terrible and you couldnt be more full of yourself. Stop on every job telling everyone about your dad and his war stories.. word around is that he spend 25 years working the desk hidden at 35th street because he scammed some injury. Everytime I see this guy in 004 hes nice but just as phoney as they come and the stories are brutal. 004, check this moron and get him in line.. what a complete geek.
10/09/2014 04:31:00 PM
So the guy is "nice" but you still need to slam him here? Just say hello and walk away. Not too hard, is it? Easier to rip someone apart on a blog I guess.
If this is your biggest complaint with everything going on with our contract and pension you are soft.
The politicians in the FOP may have endorsed governor potatohead but you can be certain the rank and file did not. In fact, the rank and file hate Quinn for his soft stance on criminals an his penchant for letting them out of jail. The hate him for his terrible management of this state.
The rank and file may be a bit confused on Rauner, but they hate Quinn and his friends, and I mean a lot.
Why is channel 7 making shit up?
10/09/2014 02:47:00 PM
Because that's what they do.
Don't ever let the facts get in the way of sensationalism.
Remember The Movie "Animal House" ?
Remember "Bluto" In One Of The Last Scenes ?
"Oh We Can't Follow You Bluto We Might Get In Trouble"
Well That's What You All Sound Like.
We Can't Vote For Rauner, We Might Get In Trouble.
Well Not Me, I'm Not Taking This Lying Down.
I'm Voting For Rauner !
Who's With Me ?
The Rest Of You Can Go Live On The Democratic Plantation, Where You Belong.
OutFUCKING standing........Great Idea now we are part of the problem with no solution in sight...........
http://breakingnews.suntimes.com/chicago/rank-and-file-cop-union-seeks-records-of-sergeant-applicants/
Fuck Quinn
Fuck Durbin
Fuck FOP
Dump them All
10/10/14, 6:48....
You are a true simpleton.
Go vote for Rauner.
Tribune endorsed Rauner.
Anonymous said...
8:28.....
Rauner/Rahm will make a deal with Madigan in 10 seconds to fuck you.
Quinn will be fairer.
10/10/2014 10:13:00 AM
You mean we will get a reach around?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yup, vote for Quinn, he done a splendid job, hasn't he!
Walker in Wisconsin straightened out their pension problem in 1 term with no major blood letting. Democrats kick the can down the road and eventually, the pension gets reformed by reducing your payments by maybe half because it's insolvent. We have to put conservatives in charge of the government to rein in spending or we're all screwed, that is except the 0bama phone set, did you ever notice how they are always given more and never demonized about being useless, you're demonized because you have the nerve to want to keep a couple of dollars of your pay.
Keep voting democrat, dumb asses.
10/10/2014 02:18:00 PM
Reign in spending, right. Anyone out there have a family member in a nursing home on Medicaid? I do. Can you afford to pay the $5,000 a month or so that it costs to keep them there? Me neither. What spending, exactly, do you think will be reigned in? Please tell me because no matter what it is, people will be hurt.
I would just be interested in hearing what spending people think could or should be cut. I always read the republican mantra, "Cut spending..." but I never read what spending. Give some examples. Billionaires don't care what state spending is cut, they don't need any of those State of Illinois programs. They own nursing homes, they don't have to worry about paying to keep a family member in one.
Anonymous said...
30Years of Republican leadership from the Governors Office got us to this point. Always remember that.
10/10/2014 09:36:00 AM
The only decent governor in Illinois since I was old enough to vote has been Richard Ogilvie. He told people Illinois needed an income tax, he signed the bill the General Assembly passed and he got booted out of office after one term for that.
ALL increases in the Illinois Income Tax except for 2011 were passed under a Republican governor.
Under Republican Governor Thompson there were 5, count 'em, 5 Illinois Income Tax hikes!
Say what you want about Quinn and his increase but ALL previous income tax increases plus the initial income tax itself came to us under republican rule.
That sounds an awful lot like Democrats, tax and spend, or in Illinois I guess it is spend and then tax.
Anonymous said...
"Another fact, with a R governor, treasurer and comptroller, we might have some semblance of checks and balances in state government.
10/10/2014 01:32:00 AM"
Really where were the checks & balances during Jim Thompsons tenure, Jim Edgar, & George Ryan. Over 30 years of Republican Governors & here we are blaming a Democrat for their malfeasance
10/10/2014 09:39:00 AM
Make that 34 years of Republican governors. (I don't even count the 4 years of Dan Walker, he did nothing) You forgot Richard Ogilvie, he was also a r r r r-republican.
What happened to all those checks and balances? I think it was write the Check and let someone else try to Balance it out. Those Checks and Balances.
30Years of Republican leadership from the Governors Office got us to this point. Always remember that.
10/10/2014 09:36:00 AM
That statement is deliberately incorrect and so, misleading. Rauner is not a career politician like the scum on both sides of the isle. He is worth billions and cannot be bought. That is a huge consideration for me.
Rauner is a VERY successful businessman. Can you imagine this state if it was run like a well run business. Think before you vote. Save the state.
Always amazed at the financial Gurus wasting their talents pushing a Beat Car,lol
10/09/2014 09:17:00 AM
The above statement is insulting. You have an evil motivation projecting this type of hatred toward financially sound minds. Many police have very sound businesses and have great business degrees from institutions other than Calumet College w/ Dean Sr.
Vote for the third part Libertarian candidate named "Grimm." He needs 5% of the total vote for any copper to run for any office next election with significantly reduced signature requirements. That's a HUGE deal. The Green party was on the ballot for a few cycles until the Chicago machine printed ballots naming the candidate as Rich Whitey instead of Rich Whitney. The blacks didn't vote for him, and the Green party went poof.
The goal...take the city, state, and county back.
America
Anonymous Anonymous said...
30Years of Republican leadership from the Governors Office got us to this point. Always remember that.
10/10/2014 09:36:00 AM
That statement is deliberately incorrect and so, misleading. Rauner is not a career politician like the scum on both sides of the isle. He is worth billions and cannot be bought. That is a huge consideration for me.
Rauner is a VERY successful businessman. Can you imagine this state if it was run like a well run business. Think before you vote. Save the state.
10/11/2014 10:08:00 AM
Oh, I see. Rauner can't be bought. He is one of those who does the buying. I am thinking carefully... I will vote for Quinn. Thanks for the info.
FOP is a sham. I quit, as of right now. Endorsing a man who, as Governor, releases hundreds of convicted Felons to the streets to endanger myself, my family, friends, and the decent public ? A career goof who raised my taxes 67% and counting ? A guy who routinely practices discriminatory hiring practices against the Unclouted? A man whose double-talk about job creation is such an obvious lie that his head is beet red and appears about to explode when he publicly lies about it? A man who has driven thousands of jobs from Illinois, and hundreds of businesses to close or leave the State. A man who backs socialist obamacare, and now the Healthcare I was promised as a condition of my retirement is gone, and you just whistle in the wind at this Democrat Politician sanctioned rape of the benefits of myself and my fellow officers? You, FOP, endorse this career Political Clown ? Done with you, FOP Lodge 7, State of Illinois FOP, and National FOP. Take your fuckin FOP Book, your bullshit window decals, and your Newsletter , and shove them up your Ass.
FOP, Fuck You.
CPD ; retired .
Oh, I see. Rauner can't be bought. He is one of those who does the buying. I am thinking carefully... I will vote for Quinn. Thanks for the info.
10/11/2014 06:28:00 PM
If you are thinking carefully and still voting for Quinn then you are an imbecile. I thought you should know that. If you had friends, they would have told you that by now.
Anonymous said...
Oh, I see. Rauner can't be bought. He is one of those who does the buying. I am thinking carefully... I will vote for Quinn. Thanks for the info.
10/11/2014 06:28:00 PM
If you are thinking carefully and still voting for Quinn then you are an imbecile. I thought you should know that. If you had friends, they would have told you that by now.
10/12/2014 05:24:00 PM
...from one imbecile to another in that case. No way on earth will I vote for Rauner. And I don't care what my friend say to vote for and most of all I don't care what another copper says.
Pensions are safe with Quinn , not sure about Rainer .
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