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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
Wednesday, October 08, 2014
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108 Comments:
Curious is to why 019 District commander was present at the scene?
Get well soon Captain, my prayers are with you and your family!
Speedy recovery to the good Captain. I'm glad you're gonna make it. God bless you.
Our Mayor is own the scene and has things under control. This is real leadership.
God's blessing to all the peace makers in our city and country.
The media did a nice job showing member'of the CPD at their finest, caring about an injuried sworn member. Also, taking care of the crime scene.
Being in L E bonds people like no other job. May all the Saints of heaven watch over the men and women that work every day on our nations streets.
Proud of all of you.
Retired Det.
Channel 5 sucked bad...... 32 was bad but not as bad as 5. Chan 7 had to stick in comments from a "neighbor"
We all get hung up in the politics and B.S. of the daily grind of the CPD. Incidents like the one today restore my faith in the brotherhood of our job. The bravery and unity of spirt displayed during this incident made my heart swell with pride at being associated with all the fine men and women who serve our city. When the shit hits the fan, we can pull it together like no other organization in the country. Thank God for looking out for E.K. It was truly a miracle. And thank all my brave brothers and sisters for an incredible job today.
B.F. 007
Slow and happy recovery Captain. Take your time and be with your family. I wish you nothing but the best!!
I never want to see or hear about a CPD Member getting shot, glad he is ok but...your past has a way of catching up to you rite, Bubblehead...ha ha????
To many commanders and xo's there from other districts(from far away) that did not need to be there. They all had to be heard on the radio I think to just be heard, this only added to the confussion that was going on. One accidental discharge, keep your finger off your trigger until u are going to fire. If you are to stupid to do this, please don't bother responding to the scene. Lastly, once swat arrives you should stand down, you don't need to try to be the cowboy( you don't have the equipment or the training) that means when they enter holster your weapon if you are on the perimeter. Aiming at the building while swat and officers are inside is just plain stupid. I saw officers doing a lot of stupid things out there, pull your head out your arsess before you get yourself or a fellow officer killed due to your stupidity. That's my debriefing, stay safe and go home at the end of your tour.
Superintendent McCarthy "very impressed" by the CPD SWAT team that used flash bang, made entry, apprehended subject. Maybe now give them higher pay and take home cars.
Not so impressed with all the area "gun teams" "gang teams" "tact teams" that showed up "after the fact" but insisted to run into the building for what ever reason and then had to be rescued by the SWAT team. Hold outer perimeter guys like everyone else was and thank God none of you were hurt.
Damn, get well soon Captain.
btw, Kudos to Supt McCarthy (yes, I used his name, no joke) for keeping control of that TV Interview and telling the MSM hacks to back off while he was still speaking.
Maybe him getting engaged made him a new man? (One can always hope.)
All these news outlets suck ASS!
During the standoff, suddenly it came on the air, "Shot fired inside the building. Not by police, not by police."
This must have been it --
"Police also found a 42-year-old man dead inside the apartment along with the shooting suspect, police sources said. Police said Tuesday night the 42 year-old appears to have died from a gunshot wound, although they could not immediately determine how the man had been shot. At least one gun was recovered from the scene by police."
...and now the inevitable...
"As Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy told reporters huddled along 71st Street that one person was in custody and another dead, a group of three or four women immediately broke into sobs, with one shouting "They...killed him!"
So when does the protest march start? No one knows exactly what happened but don't let that stop you.
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Heal well and fully Captain.
Thanks to SCC for dedicating their time and efforts to keep us as up-to-date as possible in his incident.
Chicago's Finest at work.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Curious is to why 019 District commander was present at the scene?
10/08/2014 12:21:00 AM
What the hell does it matter??!!
Find something else to bitch about!
Man, talk about "night of the full moon..."
...and now thank you, God, that we all get to see this beautiful morning.
I'm retired but have been involved in stuff like this over the years. Kudo's to the dispatcher...professional, cool and calm, knew where everyone was at...NICE JOB!!!!.
McCarthy was treating the media the way he does the force...like they were slow children. Jackass.
Off topic: Near West Gazette for Oct. Has interesting piece about TIF money and city pension.
Channel 5 updated at 7:47. Captain upgraded to stable, no surgery. Rest up, Captain.
So essentially the Captain got shot because of this mutt's love triangle.
Quadrangle.
Frickin' pentagram.
The only good thing in all this is it proves a FEW whiteshirts are still the REAL police.
Get well soon Captain.
Pension and TIF money must read.
http://www.gazettechicago.com/index/2014/10/dc-think-tank-says-chicago-pension-crisis-fueled-by-tifs/
>>>Anonymous said...
Curious is to why 019 District commander was present at the scene?
10/08/2014 12:21:00 AM<<<
Now retired... Why ask?
Friend of the Captain or Acting Street Deputy... some 019 troops there.
Speedy Recovery Captain.
I heard 1400. 800. 300 and 500 too
Even after being shot, 700X radioed a warning to responding officers not to park in front of the building.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DUvEIM8t1Q
Get well soon Captain
Curious is to why 019 District commander was present at the scene?
019 Commander was the Capt. In 010 a few years ago and the 010th district lock up keeper is the brother of the Captain shot. Moral support? Even more curious is that current 010th dist commander Pena nowhere to be seen.
Channel 2. Loved the interviews from residents who couldn't get to their homes. Just the responses expected.
To all the gung ho, hair gel, tact teams are running into the building armed with their pee shooters: with you guys running into the building are now making more work because now the SWAT team has to rescue you out of the building. Understand? You do not have the proper equipment, plated armour, skills, weapons to handle the situation.
And for all you idiots on scene telling"what the fuck, let's go in there guns a blazing, what's taking so long??"
You may not have a family or anyone that likes you but why in the world would u risk ur life when it is a barricaded situation??? Let the professionals take care of it and you worry about your next "1 bagger dope pinch" and what brand name jeans ur going to wear tomorrow.
Curious is to why 019 District commander was present at the scene?
10/08/2014 12:21:00 AM
Didn't units from all over the city respond? In any case, it could be as simple as he gave a damn and showed up for fellow officers in need.
Get well to this wonderful guy. Rank never got to his head. I'm retired now but Ed was one of the greatest I ever work with on this job. His father was the same when he made Sgt. Both nice men.
Not many Captains lead their troops in the field. Ed, hope you fully recover soon. You are the real police and always were. My prayers are with you and the family. God bless.
another retired detective
This kind of puts that so called "Contract proposal" into the limelight. I voted "NO" Thanks Rahm!
To 12:21a.m.:
Commander was on the scene because he heard the 10-1 call and responded. Never question who is on the scene of a 10-1. Learn the job, then mouth off.
Most Command Staff respond to a PO SHOT Job!. it is just plain good sense to see if they are needed.
Whatever! Dude is a stroke ball. Go ahead say what you wan about my comment. Funny how people hate this guy's guts and now oh get better great guy etc etc. He is an a*$hole
This is precisely why our jobs deserve more than an 11% 5 year contract. That doesn't cover the inflation over the same period.
As one of the officers on scene and in that building all I can say is that I am proud to call myself a Chicago Police Officer once again. God bless the captain with a speedy recovery and may God bless every single one of my brothers and sisters in blue. Through all the bickering and back talk we are still and will always be a family and that's a bond that cannot be broken!
Anonymous said...
Curious is to why 019 District commander was present at the scene?
10/08/2014 12:21:00 AM
Why was this useless man there is right? Just doesn't have a clue like a lost dog.
To the dispatcher handling this mess I tip my hat to you ma'am. You truly are one of the best to ever pick up that headset. You made a terrible situation just a litter bit easier to handle and I thank you. Professionalism at its best
Anonymous said...
Curious is to why 019 District commander was present at the scene?
10/08/2014 12:21:00 AM
Because that's where he, and every other available police officer or boss, belonged. You must be a civilian.
Get well Ed. Praying for you brother. God Bless.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Curious is to why 019 District commander was present at the scene?
10/08/2014 12:21:00 AM
Well, if the rest of the Bosses are in 007, how else is the commander going to kiss ass?
Anonymous said...
Curious is to why 019 District commander was present at the scene?
10/08/2014 12:21:00 AM
LOL Was his sidekick 1980 with him?
Maybe his driver over there lol
I agree. I would never wish death or serious injury on any police officer BUT we all know who EK really is and what he stands for! Garbage!
The Song Remains The Same said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Curious is to why 019 District commander was present at the scene?
10/08/2014 12:21:00 AM
What the hell does it matter??!!
Find something else to bitch about!
10/08/2014 08:04:00 AM
He probably knew that captain and showed up to see if he could do anything. He also had some strike force type unit a while back.
After watching the MSM cover the Hammond IN taser incident before the 7th Dist shooting - why do some CPD members work as "security" for the MSM, esp. Ch. 7? The bozos even created a parking "permit" w/ the ch7 & CPD logo on it. You "officers" have sold out to the media & should hang your heads in shame.
Commander in 10 has enough problems with all the undocumented immigrants running unlicensed taco,coffee,tamale carts .
Jajajabwaha
good job all P.O's that waited for swat to relieved them.
Bubble-Head has the luck of the Devil...
SWAT did a great job of relieving PO'.
Great job PO's & SWAT
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Whatever! Dude is a stroke ball. Go ahead say what you wan about my comment. Funny how people hate this guy's guts and now oh get better great guy etc etc. He is an a*$hole
10/08/2014 11:25:00 AM
Just like Andrews and GP who would post here often. On the blog people taught rthey wre great guys. In person they are miserable jag offs that No One likes. Glad desk bitch killed his persona. Couldn't stand to see a guy who is going on working 2/3 of his career not on the street talk so much shit.
As McCarthy announced the end of the standoff to reporters huddled along 71st Street, a group of three or four women broke into sobs.
"They ... killed him!" one of them shouted.
No "they didnt"
Anonymous said...
Whatever! Dude is a stroke ball. Go ahead say what you wan about my comment. Funny how people hate this guy's guts and now oh get better great guy etc etc. He is an a*$hole
10/08/2014 11:25:00 AM
I don't know him and don't care one way or the other if he's a great guy or an asshole. I haven't met a cop I want to leave this world like that. Even if he is an asshole, I'd rather him an alive asshole cop than a dead one. If that is sucking up...slurp slurp. Happy the capt made it!
Anonymous said...
This is precisely why our jobs deserve more than an 11% 5 year contract. That doesn't cover the inflation over the same period.
10/08/2014 12:08:00 PM
I have to say, what we do is in no way directly tied to what we are paid. Not that we don't deserve more, just that we all knew, at least I did, that I was never going to get rich on this job. I knew I was going to have a relatively secure career with enough income to pay the bills although I knew I have to budget carefully. I had decent health care throughout and a pension at the end.
We work for a City government, not a large investment firm. We get what we get and I am grateful for whatever I get on the 1st and 16th. If I wanted to make lots of money I would have gone to work somewhere else. As it is, I took a pay cut to take this police job. I was never sorry. What I do and what I see can never be replaced anywhere else. The reaction of people who still respect the police is like nothing else. My wife and family are proud of their husband and dad. No supercop, just a guy who does a difficult job as good as I can.
I had to be told these same things once upon a time. It made all the difference in the world once it all started to sink in.
Be grateful for what you have. Go to an FOP meeting once in a while. Vote in all elections. Don't complain. Ever. Enjoy your life and career.
The police officer put his life on the line for the citizens of Chicago. When he retires, they/Mayor will try to demish the benefits he/us have EARNED. That is the Chicago way.
To all the gung ho, hair gel, tact teams are running into the building armed with their pee shooters: with you guys running into the building are now making more work because now the SWAT team has to rescue you out of the building. Understand? You do not have the proper equipment, plated armour, skills, weapons to handle the situation.
Oh poor SWAT, what would we do without you. Plated armour, appears the captains vest worked. Gung ho and tact guys charge into buildings and get the job done everyday. They do just fine for not having the skills,weapons or equipment
Anonymous said...
McCarthy was treating the media the way he does the force...like they were slow children. Jackass.
10/08/2014 08:29:00 AM
Didnt see it that way. All he did was say slow done, I will get to your questions. He got it under control, at first all they were doing was shouting out questions before he could answer the first one.
10/08/2014 09:35:00 AM
Even after being shot, 700X radioed a warning to responding officers not to park in front of the building.
Actually, that was before being shot and if you listen closely...at about 01:04 of the recording the captain is about to say shots fired but "no one is shooting at" [the police]
10/08/2014 11:18:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Whatever! Dude is a stroke ball. Go ahead say what you wan about my comment. Funny how people hate this guy's guts and now oh get better great guy etc etc. He is an a*$hole
10/08/2014 11:25:00 AM
Couldnt agree more. I hate to see any copper shot and best wishes but he is a vindictive, selfish ahole who made many of coppers lives miserable. And who ever said he leads from the front, I don't think so. He's way the fuck in the back and will throw you under the fucking bus in a heartbeat. He was there cause it benefited him somehow. Comment all you want but I don't like him I sure as fuck don't respect but I also would never wish him harm either. He is a copper and on that alone I hope he's well. Sticky fingers Ed, get well soon!!!!
They were all there trying to step all over each other on the radio so they can get some kind of award. You gotta make sure you're heard and all. It was fucking chaos on the radio. All these idiots were stepping on each other with pointless shit. 1400 must have asked 5 times to have the firehouse opened. Glad you're there and all but stay the fuck off the radio. One person In Charge should have been giving orders. Mass confusion and mayhem. The fucking dispatcher was legit though. You were fucking awesome. Thank you for putting some order to that huge cluster fuck.
to the guy who expresses the fact of waiting, 10:10am, we went in there to help our fallen brother, second this was NOT in any way a just a barricaded subject....it was an active shooter situation, know the difference, and all the coppers on the street and in that building being shot at will argue differently.......we were all professionals yesterday. so if you weren't there go f yourself, and if you were there thank you for not helping us because you probably would have pissed your self or gotten us or yourself hurt enough said......rl
Get well soon Cap!
Anyone have any links to the radio traffic?
OldeRanger said...
I never want to see or hear about a CPD Member getting shot, glad he is ok but...your past has a way of catching up to you rite, Bubblehead...ha ha????
10/08/2014 05:59:00 AM
Wow. You are one insensitive asshole.
Keep telling yourself I'm only worth 11 percent those of you that bothered to vote YES.
OldeRanger said...
I never want to see or hear about a CPD Member getting shot, glad he is ok but...your past has a way of catching up to you rite, Bubblehead...ha ha????
10/08/2014 05:59:00 AM
Wow. You are one insensitive asshole.
10/08/2014 07:31:00 PM
7:31pm, I'll second your comment.
Another Northwestern Wrongful Conviction Case Implodes.
https://martin-preib-b7is.squarespace.com/news/2014/10/7/another-northwestern-wrongful-conviction-case-implodes
Shitbirds are everywhere!
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/shots-fired-north-las-vegas-police-officer
Will the person who continually comments about how the swat team saved the tact, gang, and gun teams please get over yourself. These tact, gang, and gun teams have been involved in 10x more officer involved shootings than any Chicago swat team. These are the first responders who usually take care of business an hour before swat arrives with their equipment and camouflage.
At the same time, good work in actually going in to get this P.O.S., just leave the ego at the door. We are all on the same team. They were only trying to help a brother that needed assistance. They didn't think twice about rushing into an active shooter situation. We should be praising everyone who should up to try to help. When the shit hits the fan CPD is second to none (The officers, not necessarily the brass). I don't personally know the Captain but am relived he will be ok.
I once worked for channel 5. The talking heads read what's put on their Teleprompter and for the most part are pretty decent people. The liberal news writers and spinners dwell deep within the bowels of the NBC building. I can tell you that republicans working there are as rare as a red bushed woodpecker and they keep their mouths shut.
God speed and get well wishes to the injured captain.
OldeRanger said...
I never want to see or hear about a CPD Member getting shot, glad he is ok but...your past has a way of catching up to you rite, Bubblehead...ha ha????
10/08/2014 05:59:00 AM
To you and all the other jagoffs celebrating a cop getting shot - Karma's a bitch you slimy pussies. Think there aren't plenty of folks out there that don't say the same about you? Go take a long look in the mirror - disgusting, ain't it?
I'm glad the Captain is OK and I hope he gets well soon. He is a good cop and a good man.
This could have been much, much worse with multiple police lying dead on the sidewalk in front of a building where offenders were shooting down on police who were standing inside a kill zone. Charging the door after shots were fired was a bad idea.
Bad tactics will get you killed. Remember that.
To all the gung ho, hair gel, tact teams are running into the building armed with their pee shooters: with you guys running into the building are now making more work because now the SWAT team has to rescue you out of the building. Understand? You do not have the proper equipment, plated armour, skills, weapons to handle the situation.
And for all you idiots on scene telling"what the fuck, let's go in there guns a blazing, what's taking so long??"
You may not have a family or anyone that likes you but why in the world would u risk ur life when it is a barricaded situation??? Let the professionals take care of it and you worry about your next "1 bagger dope pinch" and what brand name jeans ur going to wear tomorrow.
10/08/2014 10:10:00 AM
Because they were trying to save a shot cop.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Whatever! Dude is a stroke ball. Go ahead say what you wan about my comment. Funny how people hate this guy's guts and now oh get better great guy etc etc. He is an a*$hole
10/08/2014 11:25:00 AM
Just like Andrews and GP who would post here often. On the blog people taught rthey wre great guys. In person they are miserable jag offs that No One likes. Glad desk bitch killed his persona. Couldn't stand to see a guy who is going on working 2/3 of his career not on the street talk so much shit.
More anonymous pussies who would never have the balls to take this kind of talk directly and personally to those they criticize on a blog.
Retired - Robert G. #9353
Superintendent McCarthy "very impressed" by the CPD SWAT team that used flash bang, made entry, apprehended subject. Maybe now give them higher pay and take home cars.
Maybe. But it took WAY too long for them to respond and get set up. i hope when they do their formal critique they discuss all that could be done better next time. Then share it with us all so we are close to being on the same page. We all need better training on what to do - not to do - and definitely better radios and ONE person in charge. Too many people chiming in. Cops running into the building is bad.
Couldnt agree more. I hate to see any copper shot and best wishes but he is a vindictive, selfish ahole who made many of coppers lives miserable. And who ever said he leads from the front, I don't think so. He's way the fuck in the back and will throw you under the fucking bus in a heartbeat. He was there cause it benefited him somehow. Comment all you want but I don't like him I sure as fuck don't respect but I also would never wish him harm either. He is a copper and on that alone I hope he's well. Sticky fingers Ed, get well soon!!!!
Let me preface this by saying I'm glad EK made it out alive and that I never want to see any cop get killed or hurt.
But I agree. How EK isn't in prison or fired is beyond the comprehension of anyone who has ever had the displeasure of working around him. Degenerate gambler and all around rotten motherfucker who flexed his rank every chance he got if you weren't one of his guys. Anyone who would do what he did to his own blood because of a gambling problem is a piece of shit. Ask brother Michael for that story. How he treated some of us female officers is disgusting and he should have been fired when we took it to higher authorities but his clout under Cline save his ass on many many occasions. Glad you are OK Ed, but you'll always be a piece of shit in mine and A TON of other peoples book.
yes, this is an off color joke... And im only telling this because I know that he is ok and will be fine. In fact, I hope he reads this.. Capt. We all knew that if someone wanted to take you out it would have to be with a body shot or knife because no way in hell a bullet was gonna pierce that major dome you have... yesterday just confirmed that theory and you can no longer argue that. Great guy, huge head. Get well boss I kid I kid!!
To all the gung ho, hair gel, tact teams are running into the building armed with their pee shooters: with you guys running into the building are now making more work because now the SWAT team has to rescue you out of the building. Understand? You do not have the proper equipment, plated armour, skills, weapons to handle the situation.
And for all you idiots on scene telling"what the fuck, let's go in there guns a blazing, what's taking so long??"
You may not have a family or anyone that likes you but why in the world would u risk ur life when it is a barricaded situation??? Let the professionals take care of it and you worry about your next "1 bagger dope pinch" and what brand name jeans ur going to wear tomorrow.
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says the coward hiding behind a tree or more than likely not even going to the scene. yawwwwn, away peon, away...
What's up send a special thank you to the superintendent and the command staff Chicago Police Department. They made sure that come the following day at all the real cause of all the districts that we the officers work up informed of what went on. As always they kept us in the dark. No wonder everybody relies on the media tell us what's going on because nobody else does
Anonymous said...
10/08/2014 11:18:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Couldnt agree more. I hate to see any copper shot and best wishes but he is a vindictive, selfish ahole who made many of coppers lives miserable. And who ever said he leads from the front, I don't think so. He's way the fuck in the back and will throw you under the fucking bus in a heartbeat. He was there cause it benefited him somehow. Comment all you want but I don't like him I sure as fuck don't respect but I also would never wish him harm either. He is a copper and on that alone I hope he's well. Sticky fingers Ed, get well soon!!!!
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^^^ THIS ^^^
OK, allow me to rant please. Great job yesterday. I was there and was part of it.. Im not saying that for a pat on the back just saying I was aware of the situation and could see and hear alot about what was happening... with that said where do I start... Oh, I know. The PPOs at 58th and Laflin who heard loud reports somewhere in the area.. 45 seconds earlier the second round of shots were fired and the officer was shot. trying to sort that out PPO comes over the air screeming bloody murder about shots fired at 58/laflin. didnt see them, nobody shot, not shot at the police just heard them.. Hey, PPO welcome to englewood. Also, a copper just got shot 45 seconds ago and are currently in a gunfight.. Handle it!! Second, to 300, car 3A, 500, 800, 600X, 606, 606A, the 463 team, 900 and 6791 are you guys kidding me????? STAY OFF THE RADIO IDOTS!!! Even blue shirts requesting swat and K9 about 15 times after the dispatcher said for the past 10 minutes they are on the way.. everyone just wants to be on the air and heard like they have a great idea or are running things. For the love of god SHUT UP!! The only people on the radio are the guys trapped inside and a supervisor who is trying to get them out.. or people who may have life or death information about the offender location or actions.. thats it. Nobody else needs to be on the air. We cause our own chaos. Everyone thinks they have a better Idea than the next. And hey, 6791 great job on pulling all the coppers you guys had and assembling them 3 miles away at ogden park.. are you geographically challenged??? A really fast response should be no problem from 65th and racine to 72nd and lowe. I guess hamilton park, you know the huge park two blocks away which is divided from the location by a huge brick wall with the train tracks wasnt big, safe or close enough. when they need resources and help you pull guys 3 miles away. get that man a gold star, he will fit in with bt 300 all day long. bt 300, please I hope someone takes your radio away. talking just so you can be heard talking and make it look like you were in charge. 500 was no better. all the bosses were fighting to be in charge. and the sgt from narcotics I think 6240 get serious would ya... at no time did a single thing you say make sense, let alone correct. to everyone else, good job especially the guys on the ground and the coppers who stormed the place to help out and breached the back allowing the copper who was shot to get out the back.
I am happy he is OK, and will make a full recovery.
And I don't agree with anyone who has ill will like that to another copper.
Well wishes are definitely in order, but let's save all the "he's a great guy" rah rah stuff.
Hypothetically speaking, is it ok to work a benefit for another copper, and feel free to help yourself to some proceeds? Didn't think so.
Some of his 007 dollies and 3 year wonders don't know their history.
Glad to hear the Captain was not badly hurt, and no other LEO were hurt.
you my friend must be from the suburbs and moved to this great city with know family history on this job, and i would bet you have less than 10 years on the job. no more time to waste on you
Anonymous said...
Get well soon Cap!
Anyone have any links to the radio traffic?
10/08/2014 07:18:00 PM
www.broadcastify.com
in the archives but you will have to pay $15 for 6 months of access
I have to say, what we do is in no way directly tied to what we are paid. Not that we don't deserve more, just that we all knew, at least I did, that I was never going to get rich on this job. I knew I was going to have a relatively secure career with enough income to pay the bills although I knew I have to budget carefully. I had decent health care throughout and a pension at the end.
We work for a City government, not a large investment firm. We get what we get and I am grateful for whatever I get on the 1st and 16th. If I wanted to make lots of money I would have gone to work somewhere else. As it is, I took a pay cut to take this police job. I was never sorry. What I do and what I see can never be replaced anywhere else. The reaction of people who still respect the police is like nothing else. My wife and family are proud of their husband and dad. No supercop, just a guy who does a difficult job as good as I can.
I had to be told these same things once upon a time. It made all the difference in the world once it all started to sink in.
Be grateful for what you have. Go to an FOP meeting once in a while. Vote in all elections. Don't complain. Ever. Enjoy your life and career.
10/08/2014 06:16:00 PM
Well said and deserves to be posted again and again.
Retired a few years now, but funny to see that a lot of these comments could have been written about any similar incident 30 years ago. As they say, the more things change, the more they remain the same.
Anonymous said...
OK, allow me to rant please. Great job yesterday. I was there and was part of it.. Im not saying that for a pat on the back just saying I was aware of the situation and could see and hear alot about what was happening... with that said where do I start... Oh, I know. The PPOs at 58th and Laflin who heard loud reports somewhere in the area.. 45 seconds earlier the second round of shots were fired and the officer was shot. trying to sort that out PPO comes over the air screeming bloody murder about shots fired at 58/laflin. didnt see them, nobody shot, not shot at the police just heard them.. Hey, PPO welcome to englewood. Also, a copper just got shot 45 seconds ago and are currently in a gunfight.. Handle it!! Second, to 300, car 3A, 500, 800, 600X, 606, 606A, the 463 team, 900 and 6791 are you guys kidding me????? STAY OFF THE RADIO IDOTS!!! Even blue shirts requesting swat and K9 about 15 times after the dispatcher said for the past 10 minutes they are on the way.. everyone just wants to be on the air and heard like they have a great idea or are running things. For the love of god SHUT UP!! The only people on the radio are the guys trapped inside and a supervisor who is trying to get them out.. or people who may have life or death information about the offender location or actions.. thats it. Nobody else needs to be on the air. We cause our own chaos. Everyone thinks they have a better Idea than the next. And hey, 6791 great job on pulling all the coppers you guys had and assembling them 3 miles away at ogden park.. are you geographically challenged??? A really fast response should be no problem from 65th and racine to 72nd and lowe. I guess hamilton park, you know the huge park two blocks away which is divided from the location by a huge brick wall with the train tracks wasnt big, safe or close enough. when they need resources and help you pull guys 3 miles away. get that man a gold star, he will fit in with bt 300 all day long. bt 300, please I hope someone takes your radio away. talking just so you can be heard talking and make it look like you were in charge. 500 was no better. all the bosses were fighting to be in charge. and the sgt from narcotics I think 6240 get serious would ya... at no time did a single thing you say make sense, let alone correct. to everyone else, good job especially the guys on the ground and the coppers who stormed the place to help out and breached the back allowing the copper who was shot to get out the back.
10/08/2014 10:49:00 PM
Patrolman right?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To all the gung ho, hair gel, tact teams are running into the building armed with their pee shooters: with you guys running into the building are now making more work because now the SWAT team has to rescue you out of the building. Understand? You do not have the proper equipment, plated armour, skills, weapons to handle the situation.
And for all you idiots on scene telling"what the fuck, let's go in there guns a blazing, what's taking so long??"
You may not have a family or anyone that likes you but why in the world would u risk ur life when it is a barricaded situation??? Let the professionals take care of it and you worry about your next "1 bagger dope pinch" and what brand name jeans ur going to wear tomorrow.
10/08/2014 10:10:00 AM
I find it amazing how easy it is for you to spew your nonsense and criticize people who are trying to help. I was there and I was one of those gung ho idiots (as you put it) who went into the building. I along with other P.O.'s who I did not know were trying to do one thing, save a shot Police Officer.
You can say what you want but SWAT was a long ways off and it took them a few hours to get there. I am in no way complaining at them, let me be straight these guys did a phenomenal job.
Would I do it again YES, and for the record SWAT did not rescue us we walked out the back door after they had the building secure. I am not going to criticize you and say you were hiding behind the tree or anything else, I just ask one thing don't criticize others who are trying to help. I have well over 15 years on this job so I am not a hair gel tact guy as you put it.
Lastly, I would like to thank everyone there everybody did an amazing job.
>>>I think you were referring to the "Ivory Billed Woodpecker". Just sayin, but I understood your point.
Even after being shot, 700X radioed a warning to responding officers not to park in front of the building.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DUvEIM8t1Q
10/08/2014 09:35:00 AM
If you listen carefully that warning came right before he was shot. Wish him a happy recovery. Now come back and just be a captain.
Semi-OT:
I would LOVE to see a dispatcher like the lady here to get the kudos deserved. Wouldn't it be great if Chicago PD or Chicago Fire had an episode that showcased the value of this sort of work?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To all the gung ho, hair gel, tact teams are running into the building armed with their pee shooters: with you guys running into the building are now making more work because now the SWAT team has to rescue you out of the building. Understand? You do not have the proper equipment, plated armour, skills, weapons to handle the situation.
And for all you idiots on scene telling"what the fuck, let's go in there guns a blazing, what's taking so long??"
You may not have a family or anyone that likes you but why in the world would u risk ur life when it is a barricaded situation??? Let the professionals take care of it and you worry about your next "1 bagger dope pinch" and what brand name jeans ur going to wear tomorrow.
Please stop...you are making a complete a$$hole out of yourself and the rest of the SWAT team.The officers on scene first had only one choice and that was to go save a wounded fellow officer in that building.Those of us on scene know that it takes time for SWAT to get organized and mobile.We would prefer to wait for SWAT, but under these circumstances time wasn't in abundance. Those Tact guys and "Hair Gels" did exactly what they should have done. They risked their lives for a wounded fellow officer.If,in the process,they fall under fire,and are unable to extricate themselves,well then, hopefully SWAT finally arrives on
scene to neutralize the threat so the brave officers can exit the building. In other words, we all have jobs to do, just do YOURS and stop criticizing the job others are doing.I was on scene, and everyone acted heroically.
Couldnt agree more. I hate to see any copper shot and best wishes but he is a vindictive, selfish ahole who made many of coppers lives miserable. And who ever said he leads from the front, I don't think so. He's way the fuck in the back and will throw you under the fucking bus in a heartbeat. He was there cause it benefited him somehow. Comment all you want but I don't like him I sure as fuck don't respect but I also would never wish him harm either. He is a copper and on that alone I hope he's well. Sticky fingers Ed, get well soon!!!!
Well said!
Dear Robert G retired#9353,
Andrews hid behind his bars and GP is scared as they come. You notice when people started putting his real name out there he changed his posting style, claimed not to be WSIDN, and then stopped posting all together.
If anyone of those.guys acted like they did either on the blog or without their uniform they would get knocked the Fuck out. That's why they don't do it.
Don't act so tough Robert G with a retired numberthat nobody can look up. You're pretty anonymous yourself fuck head.
Even after being shot, 700X radioed a warning to responding officers not to park in front of the building.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DUvEIM8t1Q
10/08/2014 09:35:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Get well soon Cap!
Anyone have any links to the radio traffic?
10/08/2014 07:18:00 PM
www.broadcastify.com
in the archives but you will have to pay $15 for 6 months of access
10/09/2014 03:04:00 AM
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its on youtube.. about 50 min worth of tape. if you type in captain kulbida chicago police it should come up
while the shooting is going on I love (well actually hate) the guy who comes over yelling "Notify the helicopter to get over here".. Hey idiot, what is the helicopter gonna do??!!??!? There are a hundred coppers there on all floors and around the building including with officers covering the roof access. Tell me mr wizard, what will the helicopter do? Is it just that you wanna be heard on the radio with the "big idea".. after all, you know us coppers we all know much better than everyone else and have a better idea. if there is a copper shot and they are firing at the police SHUT UP!!!!!
OK, allow me to rant please. Great job yesterday. I was there and was part of it.. Im not saying that for a pat on the back just saying I was aware of the situation and could see and hear alot about what was happening... with that said where do I start... Oh, I know. The PPOs at 58th and Laflin who heard loud reports somewhere in the area.. 45 seconds earlier the second round of shots were fired and the officer was shot. trying to sort that out PPO comes over the air screeming bloody murder about shots fired at 58/laflin. didnt see them, nobody shot, not shot at the police just heard them.. Hey, PPO welcome to englewood. Also, a copper just got shot 45 seconds ago and are currently in a gunfight.. Handle it!! Second, to 300, car 3A, 500, 800, 600X, 606, 606A, the 463 team, 900 and 6791 are you guys kidding me????? STAY OFF THE RADIO IDOTS!!! Even blue shirts requesting swat and K9 about 15 times after the dispatcher said for the past 10 minutes they are on the way.. everyone just wants to be on the air and heard like they have a great idea or are running things. For the love of god SHUT UP!! The only people on the radio are the guys trapped inside and a supervisor who is trying to get them out.. or people who may have life or death information about the offender location or actions.. thats it. Nobody else needs to be on the air. We cause our own chaos. Everyone thinks they have a better Idea than the next. And hey, 6791 great job on pulling all the coppers you guys had and assembling them 3 miles away at ogden park.. are you geographically challenged??? A really fast response should be no problem from 65th and racine to 72nd and lowe. I guess hamilton park, you know the huge park two blocks away which is divided from the location by a huge brick wall with the train tracks wasnt big, safe or close enough. when they need resources and help you pull guys 3 miles away. get that man a gold star, he will fit in with bt 300 all day long. bt 300, please I hope someone takes your radio away. talking just so you can be heard talking and make it look like you were in charge. 500 was no better. all the bosses were fighting to be in charge. and the sgt from narcotics I think 6240 get serious would ya... at no time did a single thing you say make sense, let alone correct. to everyone else, good job especially the guys on the ground and the coppers who stormed the place to help out and breached the back allowing the copper who was shot to get out the back.
10/08/2014 10:49:00 PM
Patrolman right?
10/09/2014 06:57:00 AM
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No, detective. And if the sgts list gets going soon I will not be a detective anymore because im in the top 75 of the list. Ive earned my spots. Are you a sgt? Perhaps a merit blowhard? Sounds like it. funny what you can gain about a person by just two words. Your two word response just screams of arrogance and elitism from the few and proud merit white shirts. When they say dont forget where you came from im sure it doesnt apply to you.. let me guess, units your whole life? Thought so.
Kindly do not rip the PPO' who are open targets doing walking target foot patrol. These guys have no vet' or supervisor with them.
They should be in cars not on foot walking in circles so McCarthy can say this works in the NYPD.
My prayers are with these PPO' who have little to zero expierence walking the streets without vet' around. Got to feel for these guys.
To all the gung ho, hair gel, tact teams are running into the building armed with their pee shooters: with you guys running into the building are now making more work because now the SWAT team has to rescue you out of the building. Understand? You do not have the proper equipment, plated armour, skills, weapons to handle the situation.
And for all you idiots on scene telling"what the fuck, let's go in there guns a blazing, what's taking so long??"
You may not have a family or anyone that likes you but why in the world would u risk ur life when it is a barricaded situation??? Let the professionals take care of it and you worry about your next "1 bagger dope pinch" and what brand name jeans ur going to wear tomorrow
You are a COMPLETE, TOTAL, & ABSOLUTE Piece of Shit.
Let me guess: You're that guy who could never make the tac team.
Get the fuck over it!
To rush into any situation wherein there's gunfire, and in an effort to save a wounded brother, is nothing short of brave & honorable. Only a jealous asshole, with some axe to grind could see it ant other way.
Even after being shot, 700X radioed a warning to responding officers not to park in front of the building.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DUvEIM8t1Q
10/08/2014 09:35:00 AM
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incorrect.. he was shot about 30 seconds after he gave that warning.. In fact, while he was giving out information is when he got shot. Listen to the tape. He is giving a flash and then you can hear a shot and the radio keys off then they come up screaming the capt has been shot. either way, good job by the initial guys who were with the capt.. to all the others who responded and pretty much screwed things up no good job for you. at least nobody died because they way guys were acting was flat out unsafe and stupid. Im all for helping them out, getting them out and taking charge to get in the place to get business done and not waiting for swat... especially with coppers trapped. but some of the stuff guys were doing was flat out unsafe, reckless and dumb. think guys.. a bad mistake in that situation doesnt mean a do over or just a story to tell it means you being dead forever with a grieving family for the rest of their lives.. and what do you get?? a name on a wall and a star in a case. Your family gets the same, a star in a case with your name on it... means nothing. You have zero lives to give to this department and city. Im not saying that to be bitter i am a worker.. i mean it seriously, do not die for this department or anyone else... You have your own family and well being to ensure goes on. selfish? Well, even I admit it sounds that way.. but to my wife and kids, its probably the most unselfish thing I can say.. damned if I do, damned if I dont.
>>>Anonymous said...
while the shooting is going on I love (well actually hate) the guy who comes over yelling "Notify the helicopter to get over here".. Hey idiot, what is the helicopter gonna do??!!??!? There are a hundred coppers there on all floors and around the building including with officers covering the roof access. Tell me mr wizard, what will the helicopter do? Is it just that you wanna be heard on the radio with the "big idea".. after all, you know us coppers we all know much better than everyone else and have a better idea. if there is a copper shot and they are firing at the police SHUT UP!!!!!
10/09/2014 02:11:00 PM<<<
Ummm... some gadget called FLIR.
Forward Looking InfraRed...
Can check roofs, bushes and trees and may even find an offender hiding in or around vehicles without risking lives.
Cop shot, pull out all the stops. Hell! If it had been raining hard enough I'd have sent for the Marine Unit.
I can't help myself. I can't stand all the criticism from cops blasting people who were talking about storming the building to get the bad guy and the wounded officer out. Isn't that exactly what our active shooter says? This was an active shooter. Now everyone is calling for the perimeter and waiting for SWAT. They took too long to get there. True. They are over rated. But if this was a school shooting you would expected to go in - and according to the order - alone. Whatever decision was made or should have been made should have been done on the scene by at least 1 white shirt of any rank who would step forward and take charge. When I listened to the radio - live mind you - I heard what sounded like a couple of sgts and POs making some great decisions to get people in and out. And what I also heard was a lost of useless and confused chatter by way too many cmdrs. Thanks. I've vented and feel better.
Your still banned from Barracos for lifting cash off the bar. Being shot does not change your recent past thievery.
10/09/2014 02:11:00 PM<<<
Ummm... some gadget called FLIR.
Forward Looking InfraRed...
Can check roofs, bushes and trees and may even find an offender hiding in or around vehicles without risking lives.
Cop shot, pull out all the stops. Hell! If it had been raining hard enough I'd have sent for the Marine Unit.
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Yeah cool story bro but 100+ coppers were surrounding the place including 3 guys who made it to the roof. Also the offender was inside the building. Flir can't see through bricks in a huge building. It was a dumb and pointless thing to request at the time while they were shooting. You could hear the guys siren so he wasn't even in scene.... So he just wanted to be the guy that was heard on the radio having the big idea.... Fail
As a citizen, I'm surprised post 9-11, you have not trained for something like this so that there is not unnecessary talk over the radio and there is some standard by which everyone knows who is in command of the situation.
I know it's hectic and caotic, but that's why it should be something you all train for on an annual basis.
Glad you brother is OK.
That dispatcher was incredible. She really stepped up. Great job.
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