More VRI Requirements
But not for you - for sergeants.
According to a recent AdminFax, sergeants are required to have the same qualifying activity numbers to work VRI that Officers must have.
The sergeants have to have it within a year though, not every month.
According to a recent AdminFax, sergeants are required to have the same qualifying activity numbers to work VRI that Officers must have.
The sergeants have to have it within a year though, not every month.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
49 Comments:
How many college credit hours are sergeants required to have? How many sgts retire in an average year?
How many sgts are expected to retire before the end of this year?
I'm not a "media whore" so relax. I've gotten all kinds of conflicting answers and am just looking for the definitive one.
That's quite humorous, they're usually begging for sergeants. Looks like someone has been allowed to implement their pet peeve.
Hahaha
Sergeants make arrests? That would be news to more than a few of the nimrod supervisors I worked under.
Bitches be like?!
Movers from Sgts? ANOV's?
Will be recinded
Whatever, the rank and file is experiencing over time fatigue.
Hire more police !
Get back to them next April.
I believe the supervisor's main function is to supervise, not come in with numbers so this is asinine.
Stupid.
Ok watch me process the occasional misdemeanor arrest while my officers are out there calling for a supervisor.
So next time I answer a question for an arrest situation or steer a ppo in the right direction I'll put myself in as "assisting arresting officer" . This will also get me court $ , and qualify me for this stupid policy. What's the point??
Keep your 2 days a month.
This city must be hurting for activity and revenue!
What kind of activity?... Spars!? Court deviations! Lol its in their quota "boys and girls!"
The powers that be are still working on the figures but they already have the categories laid out for sergeants to qualify for VRI.
And the categories are......
1)Denying time due.
2)Denying lunch requests.
3)Micro Managing.
4)Constantly over riding P.O.'s decisions with "just give them a damn report."
5)See how long they can ignore supervisor requests from field units.
Most good sergeants let worker cops take the pinch and the court.
A Sgt can do his own contact cards? You gots to be kiddin me.
Bout time they do something
RAP in place cause Sgt on a TVB
Keep working for the machine VRI people.
I'm a Sgt. I have two words for this, HA HA! I'm supposed to get activity with my 3 to 4 page log. There is normally myself and one other Sgt. I spend the day trying to find everybody racing around the district. That is in between the retarded SPARs I'm handed every week for indebtness to the city, missing court, etc, and etc. That doesn't include the 30 page CR investigation I have for an officer passing gas in public that will get kicked back four times because one T wasn't crossed.
I will always have arrest activity as I ride on jobs and stop people when I can. Should the city want me to write movers, BRING IT ON!!! I will write every month. Court is my friend and I'll tell the do nothing Crt Sgt to shove it if he or she tries to write me for not being in the proper uniform.
In all honesty, this won't float. The clouted Sgts wouldn't be able to get VRI if this goes into effect. Should you work in a unit its not possible. That is not going to happen
Looks like they took it down already, no where to be found. This sounds like a brilliant idea from an"acting"chief. And I do mean acting.
The "qualifying" numbers required for VRI are bullshit. I have over 18 years on and cannot get any supplemental days because the detectives take them all. Obviously they don't have the requirements. They purposely made this "supplemental" program for detectives who don't have the required activity. As for the rest, how many house mouses work VRI? Where do they get the activity? They jump on arrest reports just so it looks like they have an "arrest". They write bullshit contact cards like most of the dogs that also make the requirement. The requirements should be "arrests, movers, and parkers" only. Let people that actually do some work during their tour to get the VRI bonus.
So I ask my P.O.s to add me to their arrests and a few contact cards. Then do a few parkers. Big deal...not.
Who is going to help the Sgts complete an arrest report? You don't expect them to know how to, do you?
OT
http://www.gazettechicago.com/index/2014/10/dc-think-tank-says-chicago-pension-crisis-fueled-by-tifs/
I am a Sergeant and I have never and will never work VRI, not because I don't need the money, my reason is the City is using that to supplement hiring. All who work VRI remember one thing you are not paying into the pension that would be paid into if they hired a few hundred people. Our pension is screwed and without hiring it will be dissolved in 20 years. If nobody worked VRI then they would be forced to hire bodies.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
That's quite humorous, they're usually begging for sergeants. Looks like someone has been allowed to implement their pet peeve.
10/08/2014 12:31:00 AM
Hey Mr. Rocket Scientist, Our Department Directives explain the various educational requirements. Be a big boy and look it up yourself.
No supervisor should be out there looking for arrests. You are suppose to supervise and lead. Not making pimp arrest because they looked at you wrong in 9. Resign and return to a blue shirt before you hurt someone.
I am a Sergeant and I have never and will never work VRI, not because I don't need the money, my reason is the City is using that to supplement hiring. All who work VRI remember one thing you are not paying into the pension that would be paid into if they hired a few hundred people. Our pension is screwed and without hiring it will be dissolved in 20 years. If nobody worked VRI then they would be forced to hire bodies.
10/08/2014 01:05:00 PM
VRI is nothing but blood money. Too bad Our Fraternal Organization doesn't see it that way.
This is an effort to get more work out of people and not hire the needed personnel, do more with less. It is only going to get worse. Some supervisors are heavily micromanaging police officers (e.g. time on an arrest, cut the investigation short and code out the job--be careful with this one, and so on). Doing a good job on an arrest takes some time.
Who is going to help the Sgts complete an arrest report? You don't expect them to know how to, do you?
10/08/2014 10:38:00 AM
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Hey dipshit before I made sgt . I worked my whole career, most of it in numbers driven units/ teams . Where do you think sergeants come from.
And to the other guy with the list , YEA give them the damn report if warranted so we don't have to spend 3 hours trying to get out of a 10 minute report.
4)Constantly over riding P.O.'s decisions with "just give them a damn report."
Hey moron, it's much easier for a PO to knock out a 2 line case report, than for a Sgt to type up a 40 page CR.
Sgt for 18 years.
Sarge I will put you on the paper, no worries.
Sgt E P in mass transit tact gets activity. He proud of writing parking tickets on coppers cars around 17 th n state
Hey moron, it's much easier for a PO to knock out a 2 line case report, than for a Sgt to type up a 40 page CR.
Sgt for 18 years.
10/08/2014 07:14:00 PM
Amen Sarge, and back in the day, our Sgt would say "here's my beeper #.Don't page me unless you shot someone,or you got shot".
I loved our old school Sgt's.
Sgts never gave you a beeper number, it was the LT. goof
Anonymous said...
4)Constantly over riding P.O.'s decisions with "just give them a damn report."
Hey moron, it's much easier for a PO to knock out a 2 line case report, than for a Sgt to type up a 40 page CR.
Sgt for 18 years.
10/08/2014 07:14:00 PM
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If a report is warranted, then the PO does not have a choice of not doing a report. The Sgt. is probably just telling you to do your job.
Sounds like a quota since sgts. supervise, do logs, crs Spars , work the desk, approve reports , etc.
Start assigning sergeants jobs until 2000 P.O.s can be hired.
Anonymous said...
4)Constantly over riding P.O.'s decisions with "just give them a damn report."
Hey moron, it's much easier for a PO to knock out a 2 line case report, than for a Sgt to type up a 40 page CR.
Sgt for 18 years.
I'll do what I have to do, so why don't you do the same? I give 2 fucks if you gotta do a "40 page CR" because I denied some lying ass police hating savage a report for some imagined/made up lie of an offense. I ain't about to stay down for hours looking for a kid that isn't really lost of cut a robbery report for some hype who had the dealer take his money and not give him his dope. That's what you get paid for so shut the fuck up, call IPRA to get the number and get your happy ass behind the computer and phone and conduct your in investigation "sarge". Welcome to the real world junior that's never been the police. PS - it'll be exonerated whether you like it or not you company Koolaid drinking pimp.
Signed - 28 year blue shirt for life
I'm a Sgt. who was filling out arrest reports back when you were still popping zits off your bathroom mirror. Blow me junior....
Her's my Beeper number!! You young guys crack me up
I'll do what I have to do, so why don't you do the same? I give 2 fucks if you gotta do a "40 page CR" because I denied some lying ass police hating savage a report for some imagined/made up lie of an offense. I ain't about to stay down for hours looking for a kid that isn't really lost of cut a robbery report for some hype who had the dealer take his money and not give him his dope. That's what you get paid for so shut the fuck up, call IPRA to get the number and get your happy ass behind the computer and phone and conduct your in investigation "sarge". Welcome to the real world junior that's never been the police. PS - it'll be exonerated whether you like it or not you company Koolaid drinking pimp.
Signed - 28 year blue shirt for life
You sir are a complete moron. You need to live by the adage, "Let people think you are stupid. Don't open your mouth and prove it."
sgts in other cities handle jobs and make arrests!WHY NOT CHICAGO!they make a stop...its all yours boss...why not!cha ching...
Anonymous said...
sgts in other cities handle jobs and make arrests!WHY NOT CHICAGO!they make a stop...its all yours boss...why not!cha ching...
10/09/2014 08:26:00 PM
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Be careful about what you wish for. The more work that you take on, the more work that they are going to dump on you.
Sgt "company man", at saturation will be all over this. He's the worst!
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