Contract Approved by Full Council
- Chicago Police officers will get back paychecks averaging $6,000 within 75 days — and an 11-percent pay raise over five years — thanks to a contract ratified Wednesday that guarantees pre-election labor peace for Mayor Rahm Emanuel.
The contract overwhelmingly approved by the City Council marks the first time since 1996 that the contract covering 10,000 rank-and-file Chicago Police officers will not be decided by an independent arbitrator.
Emanuel made certain of it when he granted rank-and-file police officers the 4-percent retroactive pay raise he could have denied them because of a paperwork mistake made by their, now-ousted union president.
The city now has 75 days to come up with the retro money. That's 09 January.
Labels: contract stuff
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
68 Comments:
Emanuel thought this was a good contract.
You agreed.
Emanuel needs you to continue working VRI so that he will not have to hire more officers.
You comply.
I pray he doesn't ask for your first born. Fucking idiots.
And to think some people didn't believe me when I said the Union figures for the retro didn't add up......Fucking idiots!!! I guess I can say TOLD YOU SO now....man did we ever get fucked! A big thank you to my greedy co workers who unlike me voted yes for this garbage! Better save that retro for your health premiums in 2017!!!
How does the new contract address time due? Can I be denied a personal day? If I am denied a personal day, can I grieve it?
Whoo hooo, we're going to Disney World
As quoted from the article:
"Emanuel made certain of it when he granted rank-and-file police officers the 4-percent retroactive pay raise he could have denied them because of a paperwork mistake made by their, now-ousted union president.
The way I interpret this is that Rahm and the media both knew that if the city dangled a small retro check and pay raise in front of us, the majority of us are so short-sighted that we'd vote for it. He knew exactly what he could offer us in order to blind us from everything else he took away.
We were being played the whole time and we were too dumb to realize it.
Don't expect it anytime before New Year.
Rahm isn't doing this out of the goodness of his heart.... he's a Scrooge on steroids.... he has no heart.
He's doing this to give the appearance of being reasonable and nice towards public servants and he wants to portray that false image as election time approaches.
OT * BIG story out of California with the voters passing Proposition 47, the decriminalizing of many felonies to misdemeanors. Coppers are furious...
https://www.facebook.com/CopHumor/posts/896075807071550?ref=notif¬if_t=notify_me
is arbitrator Ben jumping up and down throwing a hissy fit or what?
Emanuel thought this was a good contract.
You agreed.
Emanuel needs you to continue working VRI so that he will not have to hire more officers.
You comply.
I pray he doesn't ask for your first born. Fucking idiots.
11/06/2014 12:10:00 AM
You should protest by refusing to accept your retro check!
ELECTION FALLOUT said...
OT * BIG story out of California with the voters passing Proposition 47, the decriminalizing of many felonies to misdemeanors. Coppers are furious...
https://www.facebook.com/CopHumor/posts/896075807071550?ref=notif¬if_t=notify_me
11/06/2014 03:57:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Well...
The Police should stop being so fucking hard-headed and GIVE these good people everything they're asking for...
Shit... Why bother having jails with bars and locking iron doors/gates?
Police Work is an exercise in futility.
Ohh Dean looked over the forest on these issues! of course that fool has been on duty disability and is about to retire soon!the yes votes are emmanuel votes!
So when do I see my 5% increase on my paycheck? Will it be on my 1st of December check?
The way I interpret this is that Rahm and the media both knew that if the city dangled a small retro check and pay raise in front of us, the majority of us are so short-sighted that we'd vote for it. He knew exactly what he could offer us in order to blind us from everything else he took away.
We were being played the whole time and we were too dumb to realize it.
11/06/2014 03:00:00 AM
Speak for yourself "Clousoe"! Most people with a few brain cells could figure that out. How long have you lived in Chicago? Just too many stupid people on the police department anymore. And the sad thing is these geniuses are actually being promoted. No hope!
A&A's have always reflected that Tact was fourth watch. Now they pick furloughs with second watch. I guess now when Tact wants a day off they can also bid for that day off with the watch. Does the watch now get a chance at working a RDO just like tact? If they are part of second watch, then let's ALL be part of the watch? How do people feel about this?
You cops will rue the day you agreed to make your vehicles a "benefit" to be bargained for.
And why isn't the contract updated on lodge 7 website? How long will that take?
No Christmas money? Maybe if you're Orthodox.
No no f--- you guys. VRI already paid to remodel my basement, pay my kids tuition and take a vacation. Now I'm gonna use the retro for a down payment on a new escalade! Rahm rocks!
Emanuel thought this was a good contract.
You agreed.
Emanuel needs you to continue working VRI so that he will not have to hire more officers.
You comply.
I pray he doesn't ask for your first born. Fucking idiots.
11/06/2014 12:10:00 AM
Anonymous said...
And to think some people didn't believe me when I said the Union figures for the retro didn't add up......Fucking idiots!!! I guess I can say TOLD YOU SO now....man did we ever get fucked! A big thank you to my greedy co workers who unlike me voted yes for this garbage! Better save that retro for your health premiums in 2017!!!
11/06/2014 12:35:00 AM
You two are some sour mothafuckas. The first is pissed off because he's new and can't get vri, and the second, I don't know what you problem is. If you look at your plan, you're still ok. Live with it, or you might have to use your plan from all the stress you getting, looks like a heart attack if u keep bitching
For the last 2 contracts guys have expecting big retro checks, and the city has given what 2500.00to every officer, regregardless of how much time on the job, or,etc. Why would this be any different
ELECTION FALLOUT said...
OT * BIG story out of California with the voters passing Proposition 47, the decriminalizing of many felonies to misdemeanors. Coppers are furious...
11/06/2014 03:57:00 AM
Prop 47 is having an immediate impact in our jails.
Here's a news release from Sac Sheriff Scott Jones:
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Effective immediately, the passage of Proposition 47 will have the following effects on the custody and policing practices of the Sacramento County Sheriff’s Department:
1. In most instances, many crimes that were previously “arrestable” as a felony will now only be “citable” as a misdemeanor. That means they may not be booked into jail but rather given a citation (similar to a traffic ticket) with a court date to appear, and released in the field. They will not be held pending trial. Such felony crimes that are now misdemeanors include:
· Commercial burglary (theft under $950)
· Forgery and bad checks (under $950 value)
· Theft of most firearms
· Theft of a vehicle (under $950 value)
· Possession of stolen property (under $950 value)
· Possession of heroin, cocaine, illegal prescriptions, concentrated cannabis, and methamphetamine
2. Inmates awaiting trial on any of the above felony charges in most instances will be able to have their charges immediately reduced to the new misdemeanor level, and will be let out of jail on a citation. A determination as to each person’s eligibility is somewhat time consuming, but could result in up to 420 releases.
3. Inmates who are sentenced on the above felonies can petition the court for reduction of their felony convictions to misdemeanors and many of them would be also be eligible for immediate release.
4. Convicted felons with the above felonies in their history can petition the court to have their prior felony convictions reduced to misdemeanors. If successful, many of the prohibitions they faced would then be reinstated, such as the right to vote, the right to purchase a handgun, the ability to apply as a peace officer, etc.
ANON. said:
We were being played the whole time and we were too dumb to realize it.
11/06/2014 03:00:00 AM
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Now HERE is someone who should be promoted. He sees through the BS.
Forget retro when does my raise take effect?
I can't wait for the crying to start after the Furlough By Watch selection.
The union gave the correct gross amount for retro. If anyone didn't deduct taxes, health insurance and Medicare from that then that's your mistake not the union's.
Did i hear this correctly? Dean wants to give Bella $50k a year salary? Didn't Greg say he refuses to take a salary?
Greg Bella's agreement with Dean was that Bella would work in the office for nothing and Dean would make FOP's lawsuit against Bella go away. Bella lets a $200,000 check go out the door to his friends (lawyers) and Dean is going to let it go away. Bella must think that 6 months is long enough, now he wants $50,000 for a part time job. Its sad, but its true. Better than a wagon man taking $50 for a body isn't Mr. Bella?
It's at least 5% less than we should have gotten.
2% health care cost will increase to 4% in 2017 .
Look at health care cost for officers that retired before they were 55 . $16,000 a year that is over 20% of pension salary . Enjoy your retro , you better hope city raises mandatory retirement age to 67 because you will not be able to afford to retire .
30 pieces of silver and you caved .
This current FLOP regime screwed us all to guarantee labor peace for the mayor. Way to screw us Dean.
To the poster asking about the denial of Personal Days, I recall Shields saying at many general meetings and in a number of newsletters, that the Time Due proposal was on the table. The city rejected the idea and the attorney Burns fought to kept it alive and was going to go to arbitration. Dean then came in, "hit the reset button" and withdrew all proposals. Then, miraculously we are voting on a contract in four month's time. So, yes, I think we can be denied Personal Days.
How does the new contract address time due? Can I be denied a personal day? If I am denied a personal day, can I grieve it?
>>>Didn't you clear that issue up before you voted Yes? Goof.
And to think some people didn't believe me when I said the Union figures for the retro didn't add up......Fucking idiots!!! I guess I can say TOLD YOU SO now....man did we ever get fucked! A big thank you to my greedy co workers who unlike me voted yes for this garbage! Better save that retro for your health premiums in 2017!!!
I hope I don't sit next to you at the Christmas party
Just in time for my new 1A furlough by watch,
Hey 12:10am, sorry but I don't have a money tree in my yard like you do apparently. VRI, yeah I work it once maybe twice a month. Pretty good hourly rate for writing parking tickets. Now go back behind the desk and read working coppers narratives, donkey.
I will continue to shake my cup to make ends meet.
Anonymous said...
And to think some people didn't believe me when I said the Union figures for the retro didn't add up......Fucking idiots!!! I guess I can say TOLD YOU SO now....man did we ever get fucked! A big thank you to my greedy co workers who unlike me voted yes for this garbage! Better save that retro for your health premiums in 2017!!!
11/06/2014 12:35:00 AM
You're welcome. Tell us again what, exactly, would we have gained by voting the contract down...? Besides 'sending a message', and 'sticking it up Rahm's ass'...? Would arbitration have given us a better deal? Short-term and/or long-term..?
ELECTION FALLOUT said...
OT * BIG story out of California with the voters passing Proposition 47, the decriminalizing of many felonies to misdemeanors. Coppers are furious...
https://www.facebook.com/CopHumor/posts/896075807071550?ref=notif¬if_t=notify_me
11/06/2014 03:57:00 AM
CopHumor in the url eh?
Emanuel thought this was a good contract.
You agreed.
Emanuel needs you to continue working VRI so that he will not have to hire more officers.
You comply.
I pray he doesn't ask for your first born. Fucking idiots.
11/06/2014 12:10:00 AM
You should protest by refusing to accept your retro check!
A sheep that can operate a computer! Fascinating!
Emanuel thought this was a good contract.
You agreed.
Emanuel needs you to continue working VRI so that he will not have to hire more officers.
You comply.
I pray he doesn't ask for your first born. Fucking idiots.
11/06/2014 12:10:00 AM
You should protest by refusing to accept your retro check!
It's obvious by your post what you were thinking about when you voted. RETRO! RETRO! RETRO!
I say again, Fucking Idiots.
Emanuel thought this was a good contract.
You agreed.
Emanuel needs you to continue working VRI so that he will not have to hire more officers.
You comply.
I pray he doesn't ask for your first born. Fucking idiots.
11/06/2014 12:10:00 AM
When a man needs money to support his family i.e. college tuition etc. he goes to work. I don't take handouts like some many of the lowlifes that we babysit day in and day out. . So if that makes me and idiot to you, go fuck yourself.
And to think some people didn't believe me when I said the Union figures for the retro didn't add up......Fucking idiots!!! I guess I can say TOLD YOU SO now....man did we ever get fucked! A big thank you to my greedy co workers who unlike me voted yes for this garbage! Better save that retro for your health premiums in 2017!!!
11/06/2014 12:35:00 AM
My retro will be $12,000. Maybe if you got off your ass and worked some O.T. or VRI etc. you could have a big fat check coming as well, loser.
Anonymous IN THE KNOW said...
ANON. said:
We were being played the whole time and we were too dumb to realize it.
11/06/2014 03:00:00 AM
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Now HERE is someone who should be promoted. He sees through the BS.
11/06/2014 08:13:00 AM
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How do you figure that, 8:13am? He just admitted he was played. He sees through the bs a bit too late.
A lot of us saw it BEFORE the vote, but we were outvoted by those who 'were played'.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And to think some people didn't believe me when I said the Union figures for the retro didn't add up......Fucking idiots!!! I guess I can say TOLD YOU SO now....man did we ever get fucked! A big thank you to my greedy co workers who unlike me voted yes for this garbage! Better save that retro for your health premiums in 2017!!!
11/06/2014 12:35:00 AM
Serenity now, serenity now
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And why isn't the contract updated on lodge 7 website? How long will that take?
11/06/2014 07:43:00 AM
Now that the contract has been approved by the membership and ratified by the City Council it can be sent to the printer. Probably at the December General Meeting there will be boxes and boxes of contract books and likely around the same time the .pdf version will appear on the FOP web site.
Anonymous said...
Forget retro when does my raise take effect?
11/06/2014 08:16:00 AM
Actually today, the day after the contract was ratified by the city council. Retro stopped yesterday and raise starts today.
Anonymous said...
So when do I see my 5% increase on my paycheck? Will it be on my 1st of December check?
11/06/2014 06:47:00 AM
Why are you asking on the blog? You will get 5 wrong answers. Heres an idea. Call finance.
Nice math.....19 Jan 15 is the correct date.
I will never work VRI and would strongly recommend that you all stop now. I have no problem making money elsewhere. Brothers and sisters you are not helping our cause to hire more officers. You are working too many hours and it's taking a toll on your health not to mention being placed in harms way.
You're welcome. Tell us again what, exactly, would we have gained by voting the contract down...? Besides 'sending a message', and 'sticking it up Rahm's ass'...? Would arbitration have given us a better deal? Short-term and/or long-term..?
Well Goldman.
We would have gotten no less then the raise everyone else got. We wouldn't have been put in the Wellness program because if you were paying attention you would know that an arbitrator already ruled on that. We wouldn't have had the health insurance go to tiers and now when 2017 comes you will be crying every time you have to use your insurance. We wouldn't have gotten furlough by watch and future ppo's wouldn't have gotten screwed by our union. I could go on , but SCC does not like long posts. Read past arbitrations Goldman and you just might become a man someday.
You two are some sour mothafuckas. The first is pissed off because he's new and can't get vri, and the second, I don't know what you problem is. If you look at your plan, you're still ok. Live with it, or you might have to use your plan from all the stress you getting, looks like a heart attack if u keep bitching
11/06/2014 08:10:00 AM
Agreed. Time to disband Our Fraternal Organization, void all contractual protections and trust the higher authorities in this City and Department will wear condoms when they do right by us.
Anonymous said...
And to think some people didn't believe me when I said the Union figures for the retro didn't add up......Fucking idiots!!! I guess I can say TOLD YOU SO now....man did we ever get fucked! A big thank you to my greedy co workers who unlike me voted yes for this garbage! Better save that retro for your health premiums in 2017!!!
11/06/2014 12:35:00 AM
My retro will be $12,000. Maybe if you got off your ass and worked some O.T. or VRI etc. you could have a big fat check coming as well, loser.
11/06/2014 03:50:00 PM
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Hey Big Shot, I am too busy working on my three other careers. I get more than $12,000 yearly in tuition reimbursement benefit.
I voted out the Governor. Next the Mayor and the FOP.
Anonymous said...
So when do I see my 5% increase on my paycheck? Will it be on my 1st of December check?
11/06/2014 06:47:00 AM
Why are you asking on the blog? You will get 5 wrong answers. Heres an idea. Call finance.
11/06/2014 06:14:00 PM
My guess is it will be on either the Jan 16 2015 or Feb 1 2015 paychecks. No sooner.
Everyone seriously needs to go fair share because FOP would still have to protect you just no legal unless u pay the $300 a year for legal representation
Waa, waa, waa! It's over an done with, people. All this bitching and moaning sounds like the crabby citizens we deal with, or the Democrats who are pissed about the Republican victories.
YES, the contract affects those of us who voted, no, but for Christ's sake already, deal with it an move on. This is what we have as a contract and rightly or wrongly, that will not change by pissing and moaning. Evidently, for the foreseeable future, it appears we will have to deal with the loudly disappointed.
Enough already. If you don't like the contract, or the retro check, fine, I get it! I don't like it. I didn't vote for it. If you're that pissed off, give your retro check to charity, or better still, give it to me. That way, I'll find the contract more acceptable.
Otherwise, pull up your panties boys and girls and make your changes at the next election. Or maybe your one of those coppers who complain about who ever is running FLOP. If that is the case, buy yourself some sedatives and move on already.
This contract, for good or for bad, is not the end of the world.
Yep, Bella wants a $50,000 salary to work in FOP. It will be voted on at the next Board meeting on Dec 02. All this even after he promised not to take a salary.
Anonymous said...
Forget retro when does my raise take effect?
11/06/2014 08:16:00 AM
Actually today, the day after the contract was ratified by the city council. Retro stopped yesterday and raise starts today.
75 days from November 5? January 9 is 65 days away.
All of you are still crying! If you think its better in the private sector , Quit! Some jobs out there dont even get a pay increase. Your crying and dont see the big picture. Maybe one day after 3 or four contracts (if u last that long) you"ll realize that the money you made helped with your children , house, car. Summer home,etc. But thats to far in the future for you. You want it now for not doing anything. Quit bitching and enjoy life. For all of you that understand, stay safe.
You wanted Dean. You got Dean. Exactly what you deserve. He sold you out on your contract for a years retro.
Bella now wants 50k to stay at FOP. You better hope he gets it even though there isn't anything in our bylaws allowing them to pay him. He's the guy who's really running the show because he's the only guy up there who has a clue. If he leaves everybody else is in the dark.
You all better remember that McDonagh endorsed the shit out of Dean when McDonagh makes his bid for FOP president in the next election.
The FOP has become a fucking joke. And you all thought Shields was bad.
Anonymous said...
So when do I see my 5% increase on my paycheck? Will it be on my 1st of December check?
11/06/2014 06:47:00 AM
Why are you asking on the blog? You will get 5 wrong answers. Heres an idea. Call finance.
11/06/2014 06:14:00 PM
My guess is it will be on either the Jan 16 2015 or Feb 1 2015 paychecks. No sooner
No way, would have to be in next paycheck,otherwise there would have to be two retro checks. One for up to Nov 6 and the second for the time between Nov 6 and your first check with new raises.
The way I interpret this is that Rahm and the media both knew that if the city dangled a small retro check and pay raise in front of us, the majority of us are so short-sighted that we'd vote for it. He knew exactly what he could offer us in order to blind us from everything else he took away.
We were being played the whole time and we were too dumb to realize it.
11/06/2014 03:00:00 AM
Speak for yourself "Clousoe"! Most people with a few brain cells could figure that out. How long have you lived in Chicago? Just too many stupid people on the police department anymore. And the sad thing is these geniuses are actually being promoted. No hope!
Both of you....
Did any of you think we were going to get more then 11% once the firemen or Sergeants voted to accept their contracts?
Did you think if the contract was voted down, the city was going to negotiate that first year lost with us for something that the last regime at the FOP messed up and an arbitrator would not be allowed to address . Would you prefer we give up the 4% for the rest of your career and in your retirement years toward your pension.
You a-holes are the same winers who constantly complain at work, talk behind peoples back at work and smile in their faces. Kiss a bosses ass and then tell your peers, that boss is an a-hole.
Your the same idiots who sign up for every VRI date you can and complain about how the city is screwing with us. When you working VRI just justifies the city's need not to hire any new help.
And your the same A-holes who have the all the answers, know all but don't do S#*T. On the job or attend FOP meetings.
Well Goldman.
We would have gotten no less then the raise everyone else got. We wouldn't have been put in the Wellness program because if you were paying attention you would know that an arbitrator already ruled on that. We wouldn't have had the health insurance go to tiers and now when 2017 comes you will be crying every time you have to use your insurance. We wouldn't have gotten furlough by watch and future ppo's wouldn't have gotten screwed by our union. I could go on , but SCC does not like long posts. Read past arbitrations Goldman and you just might become a man someday.
Just listing the stuff you don't like in the contract doesn't mean the arbitrator would've ruled that way. Past arbitrations have shown coppers typically make concessions, and gains; nothing overly advantageous or harmful.
Reading past arbitrations makes you a man? Seems attacking and questioning the manhood of someone who(might dare) ask a question or disagree with you will work too. Good to know.
V.R.I is a good deal.
As long as you don't want the pension you have worked for.
Less coppers hired equals,
Less people paying into the pension.
Save that VRI check.
You are going to need it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
All of you are still crying! If you think its better in the private sector , Quit! Some jobs out there dont even get a pay increase. Your crying and dont see the big picture. Maybe one day after 3 or four contracts (if u last that long) you"ll realize that the money you made helped with your children , house, car. Summer home,etc. But thats to far in the future for you. You want it now for not doing anything. Quit bitching and enjoy life. For all of you that understand, stay safe.
11/07/2014 05:54:00 AM
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I understand. I have a sports car in the garage. I am taking advantage of the tuition reimbursement, most jobs only cover about $1,500 a year. Many people are losing their houses; I still have mine.
Of course Bella made that promise not to take a salary while campaigning. Him, Dean and their team ran on lying to everyone. The fools that believed their likes voted for them and now everyone has to pay for the fucked up contract, them undoing everything the prior administrations did, they even fired the girl that did our medical/IOD's, I can't believe this fop
Greg Bella's agreement with Dean was that Bella would work in the office for nothing and Dean would make FOP's lawsuit against Bella go away. Bella lets a $200,000 check go out the door to his friends (lawyers) and Dean is going to let it go away. Bella must think that 6 months is long enough, now he wants $50,000 for a part time job. Its sad, but its true. Better than a wagon man taking $50 for a body isn't Mr. Bella?
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As far as that law suit goes Mark "potato head" Donahue and Sid "I erased all of the board's tapes" Davis were the ones to sign the check not Bella.
V.R.I is a good deal.
As long as you don't want the pension you have worked for.
Less coppers hired equals,
Less people paying into the pension.
Save that VRI check.
You are going to need it.
11/07/2014 02:55:00 PM
Damn good haiku. The latest contract birthed by the unholy union of The City and Our Fraternal Organization wasn't constrained by the 5-7-5 pattern either.
For those officers on Duty disability the pension board is saying we won't see the pay raise or retro for 6 to 12 months. As always we get screwed. They will probably get out of paying us interest too since we should have gotten our pay in 75 days also
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