Contract Passes Committee
- A key Chicago City Council committee on Monday endorsed a new contract with more than 9,500 rank-and-file police officers, setting the stage for a full council vote Wednesday that will buy Mayor Rahm Emanuel some level of labor peace going into next year's elections.
The Workforce Development and Audit Committee voted in favor of the pact, which includes raises of 11 percent over five years running through June 2017, and back pay dating to the June 2012 expiration of the previous contract. That committee vote came after the Fraternal Order of Police membership voted by a 2-1 margin to ratify the contract.
If the full council approves, it will be the first contract since 1996 that the city and police union negotiated instead of ending up in binding arbitration, said Joe Martinico, the city's chief labor negotiator. And it's the first time since 1980 the specter of arbitration was not used as a bargaining gambit by either side, added Joseph Franczek, the city's labor attorney.
The Sun Times emphasizes the "furlo by watch" portion of the decision. The full council meets Wednesday.
Labels: contract stuff
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
101 Comments:
Why is out contract always out in the news??
I never hear the city carpenters out there. The news and elected officials who put our business out there can such a duck. ..
3:1 ratio of officers to Supervisors? A little top heavy I would say.
The contract is for 9,500 rank-and-file police officers. The other day McCarthy was able to provide specifics, saying the department has an authorized strength of 12,533 sworn officers, and 587 vacancies.
Just an observant citizen
So if it's approved Wednesday, when do we see the raises take effect? The 16th?
Hey SCC, it appears we were duped into believing that we also are going back to 25 working day furlo, THAT ISNT THE CASE, read the new order, I checked with couple people and if you work a schedule more than 8.5 hour tour then you get converted to hours, not the working day furlo......
The latest FOP newsletter is a bunch of cheerleading for themselves and the only article listing any useful news is by G Bella.
DiMaria's article is listed in the back. Cassianno article is a bunch of bragging about himself. Kilmer actually went on an assigment in the field. "Congratulations for doing your job."
McDonaough lists the salaries but forgot to mention it is on top of what the city pays them...big bucks for not being elected.
And lastly, endorsements: Come on!!! Lisa Madigan and Bill Cunningham? I inquired and learned the Board of Directors "roll call vote" was split down the middle and Dean had to be the tie breaker who gave the endorsements. How do I get record of the "roll call vote"?
OT: There's an off duty PO who does free work for other PO's if they're in an on-duty accident where the department is looking to give days. He owns a crash consulting business on the side... www.accidentreviewservices.com
VOTE!
Vote for someone or against them. But VOTE!
The "Furlo by watch", actually fucks your future Furlo picks, when you get seniority on this job!
I guess guys are blinded by the pennies they need!
Just plain fucking stupid!
This contract gave alot to this thieving city and F.O.P. got shit!
Some victory! Do more with less all right!
Time to VOTE Rahm out!
Thanks everyone for giving Eahm a win. I will just fall down in spring and go iod the whole summer. I'll make sure to buy my tickets ahead of time and write a to from so I can leave. There are all sorts of things people can and will do to get around the furlough by watch. I suspect there is also going to be a spike in the medical being used every summer. So my thanks to all of you who pissed your seniority away.
Jan 15 2017. That's when my life will begin again!
Can someone please explain to me how furlough by watch is a overtime budget saving issue? When has the CPD ever "hired back " people for furlough relief? I know for damn sure it's never happened in my district. Details to a watch for a period or two have always been used which crosts zero overtime money. Maybe this another benefit to those in units who get to make OT while others are on furlough but never happens for the backbone of the department, patrol.
Great the fix is in....
"Ald. Patrick O'Connor, 40th, chairman of the committee that endorsed the pact, said he hoped the ability to negotiate the deal boded well for upcoming discussions between the city and FOP on how to restore financial health to the city's struggling police pension fund.
"As we head into ... our showdown with the pension issue, we clearly have had an opportunity and some success in working with the unions to get agreements," O'Connor said, also referring to a recent, similar agreement with the city firefighters' union and other labor pacts.
When Angelo was asked about that comment, he said, "I hope the demeanor the union put forward pensionwise is the same demeanor we put forward throughout the negotiations process. We've remained professional. We've stayed focused on our membership's interests, and that's what we're going to do with the pension as well."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-chicago-police-contract-1104-20141103-story.html
Anonymous said...
Thanks everyone for giving Eahm a win. I will just fall down in spring and go iod the whole summer. I'll make sure to buy my tickets ahead of time and write a to from so I can leave. There are all sorts of things people can and will do to get around the furlough by watch. I suspect there is also going to be a spike in the medical being used every summer. So my thanks to all of you who pissed your seniority away.
11/04/2014 04:49:00 AM
Hope you never work with a partner who really needs you, moron.
Retro!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations guys. Every contract for the rest of your and your children's lives will now include new vehicles as a "benefit" you'll be expected to negotiate for.
You were warned
Rubber stamp.
Go IOD the whole summer...It just shows the type of Officer that you are..They did furlo by watch 11 years ago and their was no spike of summer medical usage. The idea is to get more senior officers on 3rd and 1st watch (did not have the outcome they hoped for last time). Show some pride....For whatever reason the majority of the officers spoke, live with it instead of crying.
The "Furlo by watch", actually fucks your future Furlo picks, when you get seniority on this job!
You are correct. Here's a prime example...you're in a district where it takes 20yrs to get days. Now, with your 20yrs, you'll get a worse furlough than the guy on tact with 7 yrs. The argument could be made that if you want a better furlough, go to a different watch. Ok, BUT, you can't bid for tact (not that I'd want to work it). So how's that gonna work out? I see the argument for furlough-by-watch for manpower issues in certain furlough segments, but the Dept's shortsighted-ness in hiring and district staffing is not my fault. Nor is their refusal to send recruits getting off their probation to ALL of the districts, instead of just certain ones. That's how you help ease the problem. And before I get the "get some time on the job" comments, I have 22 yrs, and I don't want days.
OT - The Media is conspiring with the US government to suppress news regarding ebola.
"The Associated Press and other press outlets have agreed not to report on suspected cases of Ebola in the United States until a positive viral RNA test is completed."
See http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2014/11/02/potential-ebola-patient-being-tested-at-duke-results-monday-morning/2/
So the patient could be demonstrating all kinds of symptoms but they ain't gonna say shit until they get the lab results back? Which takes how long?
How re-assuring, especially for first responders.
I can't believe we're still living in America.
Call the next case. Not a cop.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Thanks everyone for giving Eahm a win. I will just fall down in spring and go iod the whole summer. I'll make sure to buy my tickets ahead of time and write a to from so I can leave. There are all sorts of things people can and will do to get around the furlough by watch. I suspect there is also going to be a spike in the medical being used every summer. So my thanks to all of you who pissed your seniority away.
11/04/2014 04:49:00 AM
Oh who are you kidding? You did the same thing last year and the year before. You were going to fall down anyway this year.
Swift approval for a contract that is the beginning of the end for your pensions.
You, along with all the other under informed bosses, just put a protected right ( the percent you pay for your pensions ) into a contract. That's going the be the basis for the SCOIL completely tearing apart your constitutional protections for your benefits from this point on.
Congratulations, Angelo conned you all into bargaining for your pensions. As soon as the election is over you'll be paying another 4% more for the same benefits. And the year after that, they're going after your benefits entirely, including the retiree's benefits.
Monthly pension stipends will be reduced, because Angelo and his corrupt panel of "pension investigators" will have the last word on killing your pensions for you, by agreeing with Emanuel that the city just can't afford to pay their constitutionally required share. Angelo's team will give political cover for the TIFF fund, declaring it "not a viable source for reliable pension payments" and you'll then see Angelo declaring how "best" to force you folks to "do your share" in helping with the "pension burden".
In the end, Angelo was brought in to collude with Emanuel in killing future pensions and for those already retired be falsely declaring how Emanuel is telling the truth about not having the required cash to pay what he owes.
At that point, you will see how Emanuel will once again "bargain" for your pensions, and NOT litigate the protected benefits in the constitution. He will use the threat of Emanuel that "we will lose in court because we've already bargained for pensions in our contract". He will hang his hat on that, take minimal heat from you, and you will pay more for less and ask for more, because you're all gullible fools.
And if Rauner wins? Enjoy getting totally fucked out of your pension by having YOUR pension payments only shoved into a 401k, right at the end of your career.
It'll be GREAT to "have control" over your own money right before you retire won't it? That monthly stipend you built your retirement around? Gone.... because Rauner just took the brunt of the pension money for his hedge fund cronies to distribute amongst themselves while you try to live on 1500 a month because that's all your money will provide until you die.
The "Furlo by watch", actually fucks your future Furlo picks, when you get seniority on this job!
I guess guys are blinded by the pennies they need!
Just plain fucking stupid!
This contract gave alot to this thieving city and F.O.P. got shit!
Some victory! Do more with less all right!
Time to VOTE Rahm out!
11/04/2014 04:41:00 AM
I agree with most of this... I was in 002 when we were a pilot district for the furlo by watch and it SUCKED. But Rahm isn't the problem. The Union isn't the problem. WE ARE THE FRIGGIN PROBLEM. It didn't go to arbitration because WE (and by we I mean many of you) approved this turd.
Anonymous said...
Jan 15 2017. That's when my life will begin again!
11/04/2014 05:43:00 AM
Congrats on your retirement! Wish it was me...
Thats why put your 20 and get the "F" out greedy bastards!!!enjoy your life with family and friends find other means of income and learn to budget with what you got not overtime money...you not gonna live to 110 yr fools go home and enjoy life and stop pretending that your nothing without this job, get out and live a normal life outside the realms of police work.....
Just remember to hammer them with that 9500 number every year now...or when any white shirt says we are up to strength with thats budgeted..
Unit 541 does furlough by watch every year, no one ever complains there. Suck it (up) patrol!
Anyone have the exact Unit Rep and Board of Director's vote results on sending the contract to membership?
Anonymous said...
Thanks everyone for giving Eahm a win. I will just fall down in spring and go iod the whole summer. I'll make sure to buy my tickets ahead of time and write a to from so I can leave. There are all sorts of things people can and will do to get around the furlough by watch. I suspect there is also going to be a spike in the medical being used every summer. So my thanks to all of you who pissed your seniority away.
11/04/2014 04:49:00 AM
Got that right. Finally after 17 years I was able to get my 7B furlough to be with the rest of my family on the 4th of July up at the lake house. Now I'm being screwed cause I have seniority for both 2nd watch and a good furlough. The way I see it I'm going to have 3 furloughs because it's going to be summer IOD and there isn't a dam thing the department can do about it.
An order came out yesterday. Tactical and mission teams pick furlo with the 2nd watch. Looks like there will be no tact teams working the 1st 3 months of the year.
And the hen house door just opened a bit further.
This shit contract was a definite win for the city. The FOP laid down and let the city walk all over the police dept. Everything was done behind closed doors, meanwhile not one iota of information was given to roll calls from our reps while this "deal" was being crafted. Then, in the 11th hour, we are finally shown an incomplete proposal, with very important details regarding several issues omitted. Which hospitals/doctors will be subdivided into the new "tier 1 and 2" system, the vehicles, comp time- all very vaguely outlined with no specifics regarding implementation or recourse for lack thereof. Frankly, as numerous others have stated, most of these items had no business ever being in the contract to begin with. There was absolutely no negotiation whatsoever with this agreement, nor did any attempt to negotiate ever exist. Pathetic and appalling display of labor interest on behalf of the FOP, and a disturbing complaisant silence among the membership.
Anonymous said...
Thanks everyone for giving Eahm a win. I will just fall down in spring and go iod the whole summer. I'll make sure to buy my tickets ahead of time and write a to from so I can leave. There are all sorts of things people can and will do to get around the furlough by watch. I suspect there is also going to be a spike in the medical being used every summer. So my thanks to all of you who pissed your seniority away.
11/04/2014 04:49:00 AM
Sad but true. Dogs like you will always screw up this department, you disgruntled old timer. You should be lucky to have this job
No - believe it fop got something for this contract. It's its the officer's that didn't get anything.
Not happy about contract I'm retiring next year and I still voted no. I guarantee the retro will be in our account by Christmas so Dean and the crew can go crazy patting themselves on the back in the January newsletter. Oh well I'm glad I'm out soon but I really, really feel sorry for the men and woman with five or more years to go.
Anonymous said...
Jan 15 2017. That's when my life will begin again!
11/04/2014 05:43:00 AM
Holy smokes Debbie Downer! WOW! Maybe you need to seek some help. What are you going to do the next two years? Hang in there.
Jan 15 2017. That's when my life will begin again!
11/04/2014 05:43:00 AM
If you are this miserable to actually think that your life will be better when you retire then you need to seek professional help. You should of left this job a long time ago when you felt that your life sucked because of this job!!!!!!!!! The private sector is no better.
Jan 15 2017. That's when my life will begin again!
11/04/2014 05:43:00 AM
I'm right behind you!
Can't wait to put this shitty city in the rear view mirror!
Board meeting today. Fop is paying Baum and Sigman about $60,000 per month. So much for saving us money Dean. Called the Fop today and they had no one to answer my Open enrollment question. These guys make Captain's pay and they are never there.
What's up with that retro calculator? FOP originally said about mid $9,000. Mine calculates to $8500 with 20 plus years. Another lie by the FOP, thanks for screwing the rank and file!
What's up with that retro calculator? FOP originally said about mid $9,000. Mine calculates to $8500 with 20 plus years. Another lie by the FOP, thanks for screwing the rank and file!
11/04/2014 03:48:00 PM
Did you vote yes Retro Boy?
Vote out cop hating racist Judge James P Rhodes. He's a Markham slug.
Jan 15 2017. That's when my life will begin again!
11/04/2014 05:43:00 AM
If you are this miserable to actually think that your life will be better when you retire then you need to seek professional help. You should of left this job a long time ago when you felt that your life sucked because of this job!!!!!!!!! The private sector is no better.
He's talking about your Jug Head President leaving office hand job. Shouldn't you be in line for that Call of Duty release?
So the patient could be demonstrating all kinds of symptoms but they ain't gonna say shit until they get the lab results back? Which takes how long?
How re-assuring, especially for first responders.
I can't believe we're still living in America.
Call the next case. Not a cop.
11/04/2014 08:39:00 AM
Hey Randy "I thought this was America" Marsh, you really need to read up on Ebola. Do your own research from a reputable site, such as the CDC.
I will just fall down in spring and go iod the whole summer. I'll make sure to buy my tickets ahead of time and write a to from so I can leave.
Its asshole stuff like this above that made them put a cap on how many days you can be out. Thanks to all the guys like you that have fucked up IOD/MEDICAL procedures for those who are truly injured. Even if your joking, you should leave those comments with your partner etc.
So when are we getting our retro checks cus I just purchased a 2015 porche.i want to pay it off with all this vri and retro. Thanks fop
originally said about mid $9,000. Mine calculates to $8500
What a fricken whiner... Had it spent to the last penny already ?? Go change your vote if don't like the numbers, although I'm sure would have still voted yes
If, and it's a big if, vehicles had to be included in the contract, the FLOP should have demanded that cars are taken out of service every 3 years or 50,000 miles, which ever comes first. These new cars, that were already in the pipe line, will be here for 8-10 years. Then what? Negotiate again for new cars. It never ends.
Anonymous said...
Jan 15 2017. That's when my life will begin again!
11/04/2014 05:43:00 AM
I am one year away from retirement. But unlike you, I see reality as it is. We are fucked. With the cost of health care, we are fucked. Just the cost of health care alone will eat up my pension and other sources of income. Also, I saved and invested my money and it still isn't enough. I guess the best thing to do is live and work until you are into your sixties or seventies and then fucking die broke.
Did i hear this correctly? Dean wants to give Bella $50k a year salary? Didn't Greg say he refuses to take a salary?
And before I get the "get some time on the job" comments, I have 22 yrs, and I don't want days.
Ah, I've got 25 yrs. Can I say it?
Ok. Seriously folks. We haven't even bid for furloughs yet.
I was around when the department tried this a number of years ago. They had the same reasoning......furlos by watch will get more senior guys who wouldn't get the picks on 2nd watch to bid to 3rd or 1st.
It didn't work. Why? Because most people realized that this only affect them for only a couple of weeks a year. The watch picks are more important.
Anonymous said...
Board meeting today. Fop is paying Baum and Sigman about $60,000 per month. So much for saving us money Dean. Called the Fop today and they had no one to answer my Open enrollment question. These guys make Captain's pay and they are never there.
11/04/2014 03:28:00 PM
Did you read the Open enrollment package? Did you call Benefits Management? I thought so. Fucking FOP. It might rain on Saturday. Fucking FOP. I have to take a crap. Fucking FOP. Winter is coming. Fucking FOP. The City gave me a gold bar and it is too heavy. Fucking FOP.
Anonymous said...
Thanks everyone for giving Eahm a win. I will just fall down in spring and go iod the whole summer. I'll make sure to buy my tickets ahead of time and write a to from so I can leave. There are all sorts of things people can and will do to get around the furlough by watch. I suspect there is also going to be a spike in the medical being used every summer. So my thanks to all of you who pissed your seniority away.
11/04/2014 04:49:00 AM
Got that right. Finally after 17 years I was able to get my 7B furlough to be with the rest of my family on the 4th of July up at the lake house. Now I'm being screwed cause I have seniority for both 2nd watch and a good furlough. The way I see it I'm going to have 3 furloughs because it's going to be summer IOD and there isn't a dam thing the department can do about it.
11/04/2014 11:24:00 AM
I am so glad to be retired and I no longer have to work around dickheads like these blog tough guys. What's that? 2nd watch, nice district, want a better furlough? You decide, go to a different watch or different district. Fucking whining complaining pussy.
Anonymous said...
Jan 15 2017. That's when my life will begin again!
11/04/2014 05:43:00 AM
I'm right behind you!
Can't wait to put this shitty city in the rear view mirror!
11/04/2014 02:31:00 PM
April 2017 for me. Just around the corner!
Jan 15 2017. That's when my life will begin again!
11/04/2014 05:43:00 AM
If you are this miserable to actually think that your life will be better when you retire then you need to seek professional help. You should of left this job a long time ago when you felt that your life sucked because of this job!!!!!!!!! The private sector is no better.
Actually, you seem to be the one that will need professional help. You sound like many guys that I've known in the past 25 years who did nothing but live for this job.
I hope you haven't put your family second to your work because you will turn out like all the rest........one miserable fuck.
Fuck Dean Angelo and his Corruption Crew at FOP...Corrupt or Stupid..Take your pick...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
An order came out yesterday. Tactical and mission teams pick furlo with the 2nd watch. Looks like there will be no tact teams working the 1st 3 months of the year.
11/04/2014 11:27:00 AM
wrong buddy. check out the language on the directive before you spread rumors - "District tactical officers and foot officers assigned to Unit 001 and Unit 018 are deemed a separate watch for furlough selection purposes."
If you are this miserable to actually think that your life will be better when you retire then you need to seek professional help. You should of left this job a long time ago when you felt that your life sucked because of this job!!!!!!!!! The private sector is no better.
EXACTLY!!!
Coppers love to whine about how horrible the job is. But rarely, if ever, does one leave. I've learned to tune out the bitching & moaning. Fact is, sans the star & i.d., a lot of coppers have no real purpose to their lives. Police isn't only what they do, but it's who they are. You need only look at how many drop dead, very soon after retirement. They're no longer the "Police". So, in short order, they essentially lose their will to live / zest for life.
"If you are this miserable to actually think that your life will be better when you retire then you need to seek professional help. You should of left this job a long time ago when you felt that your life sucked because of this job!!!!!!!!! The private sector is no better.
11/04/2014 02:28:00 PM"
NO Actually I'm quite happy there's light at the end of the tunnel.You will be the one that will be miserable by the time you retire the pension should be depleted.
Yes furlough by watch. Love it. I work 1st watch don't care about 2nd watch crybabies.
Anonymous said...
Thanks everyone for giving Eahm a win. I will just fall down in spring and go iod the whole summer. I'll make sure to buy my tickets ahead of time and write a to from so I can leave. There are all sorts of things people can and will do to get around the furlough by watch. I suspect there is also going to be a spike in the medical being used every summer. So my thanks to all of you who pissed your seniority away.
11/04/2014 04:49:00 AM
I would really enjoy watching some of you "I'm going to go IOD all summer and no one can do nothing about it..." get caught, fired and prosecuted for theft. Then you will really have something to cry about. $91,000 a year job is just too tough for you idiots. Get fired assholes and let me know how McDonalds suits you.
Oh the pride of the Police Department. You must be a real super cop at that. You do nothing dog ass jagoff.
One more thing, if I see any of you phony IOD assholes, I will drop the dime myself to IAD. So keep looking over your shoulder smart guy.
Congratulations guys. Every contract for the rest of your and your children's lives will now include new vehicles as a "benefit" you'll be expected to negotiate for.
You were warned
11/04/2014 07:37:00 AM
Why is memorial fund trying to get people to donate $$ for new vests when cops get a uniform allowance 3x a year for unif. And equip?
If you are this miserable to actually think that your life will be better when you retire then you need to seek professional help. You should of left this job a long time ago when you felt that your life sucked because of this job!!!!!!!!! The private sector is no better
Yes my life did suck because of this job. It sucked because I worked with blow hard goofs like you who sleep in their uniform. I wont be in the private sector. I will be self employed. With free insurance to. And you... well you will still be hangin out in some stupid cop bar at 62 years old telling everybody what a great cop you are.
Jan 15 2017. That's when my life will begin again!
You think thus job was bad, you are a putts, for what you probably, you would of being fired in a second in the private sector. Hoe your nerves and stress go down and you get to enjoy a little bit of what's left of what you're describing as a miserable life. I for one am satisfied
Think he means when the new president is inaugurated...
Jan 15 2017. That's when my life will begin again!
11/04/2014 05:43:00 AM
If you are this miserable to actually think that your life will be better when you retire then you need to seek professional help. You should of left this job a long time ago when you felt that your life sucked because of this job!!!!!!!!! The private sector is no better.
Retri calculator shows a little under $5k for 10 years on the job. (After taxes)
What's up with that retro calculator? FOP originally said about mid $9,000. Mine calculates to $8500 with 20 plus years. Another lie by the FOP, thanks for screwing the rank and file!
11/04/2014 03:48:00 PM
Key word... ABOUT. If it calculated to $2500, you'd have a valid complaint.
OT
Not looking too good for Quinn.
Congratulations guys. Every contract for the rest of your and your children's lives will now include new vehicles as a "benefit" you'll be expected to negotiate for.
You were warned
11/04/2014 07:37:00 AM
Why is memorial fund trying to get people to donate $$ for new vests when cops get a uniform allowance 3x a year for unif. And equip?
11/04/2014 08:24:00 PM
Because I use that to pay the insurance on my summer home and boat.
Why is memorial fund trying to get people to donate $$ for new vests when cops get a uniform allowance 3x a year for unif. And equip?
11/04/2014 08:24:00 PM
If you had some time on the job you would know that the uniform allowance was increased over the years to make up for small raises.
Yep, you heard correctly. Bella will take $50k a year and work only 4 days a week and not on call for shootings. The Board was split on it and will be voted on next month.
I called the FOP today regarding the open enrollment and I asked for Jessica because she always explained it very well to me but they told me she no longer works there. I asked why and they couldn't give me a direct answer other than she don't work there. They then gave me Ray who was clueless.
Anyone know why jessica is no longer there? I'm certain they probably fired her because she helped us and was great at health insurance questions.
We pay these guys how much to be in office for 7 months to still not know jack! This disgusts me
Oh where oh where is that damn jessica?
Dean saying he wants to pay Bella 50k was part of his campaign of lies saying bella didn't want a salary just to wait and then pay him. He wants to pay him 50K for coming into Fop once a week. Can I get a job like that?
To the copper talking about the FOP news articles saying that it was all crap except for Bella's.... Funny you say that because jessica did his newsletter before they fired her. So there's your answer as to why his was the only one that had substance. As for Rays article praising himself, have you ever spoken to that guy? Him and Kevin Kilmer would be perfect in the new "Dumb and Dumber" movie because they wouldn't be acting. Call there (if they're there) and ask them a question. If they don't beat around the question, or have to call u back to find out the answer or give you the wrong information, I'd be surprised.
Of course the FOP lied about the retro amount. They had to so everyone that didn't read the proposal and soldout for the retro so this FOP could give the City what they wanted. This administration is going to ruin the FOP mark my words
Anonymous Anonymous said...
An order came out yesterday. Tactical and mission teams pick furlo with the 2nd watch. Looks like there will be no tact teams working the 1st 3 months of the year.
11/04/2014 11:27:00 AM
wrong buddy. check out the language on the directive before you spread rumors - "District tactical officers and foot officers assigned to Unit 001 and Unit 018 are deemed a separate watch for furlough selection purposes."
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Ok idiot, so the 1st and 18th dist tact and foot teams will pick amongst themselves. So all other district teams will pick with the 2nd watch? Both of you idiots need to explain more when trying to make a point.
As Howard Cosell once said,
" that's it, it's over, it's all over," Republicans gain the Senate , Obama is looking down at the end.
Obama is truly a lame duck,
lame ass, insignificant community organizer who made it and will be remembered as the worst president of the United States Of America. ....Amen
Fop said they were paying Deans campaign funded firm 10k a month, huh? But now the books show 60K a month. Go figure. How is it that much when they have canceled 95% of the scheduled arbitrations since they took office with Dean. 60K a month to settle grievances with the City on grievances 3-4 years old telling coppers to take the Cities offer because it's the best they're going to get and Dean pays them 60K a month for that? Can they hire me? I can shake hands with the city and bullshit coppers and cancel their arbitrations for 60K a month. This clan is a joke but you all voted him in. I think they pay Baum & Sigman more than 60K a month but with that it's $720,000 a year however I'm sure dean is paying them close to 80K a year.
Next election make sure you know who your voting for. If Dean runs again, doubtful cause how could he run again after fucking the FOP up during his term? He'll probably have Tom Mc Donough run for Prez with the promise of bringing his dumb ass son Dean Jr up so that nitwit can help screw fop up even more. If you've ever talked to Dean Jr you'd know that dumb ass rotten apple didn't fall far from the tree
Guys are blinded by pennies when they voted for a retro check instead of reading the full proposal. Did any of you even read the IOD recurrence section? Your all fucked on future recurrences on your IOD injuries. Think about that as your chasing an offender...is it worth it to get hurt and then have the City fuck you if that injury aggravates you months or years later. Yes, this FOP sold you all out on your IOD injuries.
At a roll call I asked Ray about the medical portion of the contract and he couldn't even explain it to me. He thought by beating around the bush that it wud help him. I pressed him more, he got flustered even more, it was ridiculous. I heard this MORON sat in on the negotiations and negotiated the medical yet he had no clue. That's what happens when you give the city what they want.
The "furlo by watch" is a big favor to the City and the bosses.
Before the commander could give some of his favorites a watch that they couldn't get by bid. But when furlo came around he could not stop it if they had to go to midnights for a period. The bosses did not want to hear the crybabies bitch. So the FOP gave the City what it wanted. A lessening of senority rights.
To the officer that said that FOP only posted something last minute with important info omitted from the actual proposal, you are correct. That is what they did because I called there and they gave a couple of the girls the revised proposal with omitted info but she didn't notice until I asked her a question and when she looked, she said wait the original was twice as much as this where's the rest? She said I know for a fact it was because when one of the officers needed a copy of the original the copy machine was down and he didn't want to wait and copy it one page at a time at one of the small copy machines in there. So she told me yo hold on so she cud ask where the full proposal was and they told her "we are not allowed to give it to you only the officers can have that copy" the tweaked brief is for you girls which is the same they posted on the website. I heard her kinda arguing with the officer saying that wasn't right and that you should have at least told us so age didn't look like an ass knowing the copy they have her was not what she knew she previously just copied. Welcome to the FOP that has lied, fucked, continues to blow smoke up our asses and won't stop because they have nothing to lose and they all have a guaranteed job when they leave after fucking all of us!
Enjoy your retro, kids! nyuk nyuk nyuk, nyuk
Anonymous said...
The "Furlo by watch", actually fucks your future Furlo picks, when you get seniority on this job!
I guess guys are blinded by the pennies they need!
Just plain fucking stupid!
This contract gave alot to this thieving city and F.O.P. got shit!
Some victory! Do more with less all right!
Time to VOTE Rahm out!
11/04/2014 04:41:00 AM
Are you really complaining about when you get to go on vacation? I'm not a police officer, but come from a police family. My relatives who are single and have seniority never bid for holidays off and if their RDO happens to hit on a major family holiday readily work for others.
I was at FOP about 2 weeks ago and I witnessed G. Bella that slow kid Ray Casiano, Dean and a brunette girl that sat in the front as soon as u walked in the FOP's security door all argue about the 55 and out. G. Bella and the brunette were arguing with Dean that if you put ur papers in by October 1, 2015 to retiree by (I think they said) June 1, 2016 you don't pay the 2% of your salary on the so called FREE insurance. Greg and the brunette seemed to know what they were talking about, then that slow kid Ray comes out like a nuisance reading something to Greg, the brunette, and Dean and they all looked at him like shut up fool we have what your retarded ass is reading. Dean didn't seem to know wtf he negotiated because in the end of their open disagreement on the floor Dean was proven to be wrong by Greg and that sharp brunette. I wanted to step in and ask Dean why he didn't know what he negotiated in the contract but I stuck to doing my statement and just listened and watched them.
This FOP is why officers shouldn't vote people in because they're their teacher and pass them they should vote on who is best for CPD. All you jag offs that voted that little prick Dean in office because he was your professor all just voted him in to sell you out in your professional career and future. Don't vote a guy in office because name recognition of him being your teacher, vote the man in that's best for the job. The things people do for pennies and a passing grade.
Forgot to mention that during that disagreement Deans secretary, the tall homely looking lady made a mistake in a book she published regarding that 55 out free insurance issue. The dark haired girl did make a comment to his secretary and so did Greg by saying, damn another mistake on something published...if your not messing up blast publishings your messing up blast emails. She just laughed. That shit wasn't funny to me.
As Howard Cosell once said,
" that's it, it's over, it's all over," Republicans gain the Senate , Obama is looking down at the end.
Obama is truly a lame duck,
lame ass, insignificant community organizer who made it and will be remembered as the worst president of the United States Of America. ....Amen
I've been on 2nd watch my whole career. Does the city really think I care about furlough? Give the young kids some daylight, because the way I see it they aren't going to get any for a very l o n g time. :D
Are you really complaining about when you get to go on vacation? I'm not a police officer, but come from a police family. My relatives who are single and have seniority never bid for holidays off and if their RDO happens to hit on a major family holiday readily work for others.
11/05/2014 02:43:00 AM
Your relatives don't work in Patrol then.
We would have lost the furlough by unit anyway in arbitration. We would have lost part of the back pay in arbitration, we would have had that wellness plan stuck up our bungholes in arbitration, we would have gotten no more money in arbitration....and on and on it would have gone.
Even if we didnt lose furlough by unit WTF would it matter to me with 30 years on? And only one to go?
Im supposed to vote "No" because some Blog pussy is whining that he cant get to his "Lake House" for the fireworks? Well guess what? I dont give a fuck if you cant get to your 2nd home for the 4'th.
What's up with that retro calculator? FOP originally said about mid $9,000. Mine calculates to $8500 with 20 plus years. Another lie by the FOP, thanks for screwing the rank and file!
11/04/2014 03:48:00 PM
Whats wrong with you? It was an estimate and could change by that much just by the amount of overtime someone earned. Whine about something important,not something like this.
Guys are blinded by pennies when they voted for a retro check instead of reading the full proposal. Did any of you even read the IOD recurrence section? Your all fucked on future recurrences on your IOD injuries. Think about that as your chasing an offender...is it worth it to get hurt and then have the City fuck you if that injury aggravates you months or years later. Yes, this FOP sold you all out on your IOD injuries.
What changed and how are we fucked on all recuurences. They only thing I read was the clock stopped if you were going for disability and you were going to get paid until the final determination. Used to be you were in a no pay status until the determination was done.
"Fop said they were paying Deans campaign funded firm 10k a month, huh? But now the books show 60K a month. Go figure. How is it that much when they have canceled 95% of the scheduled arbitrations since they took office with Dean. 60K a month to settle grievances with the City on grievances 3-4 years old telling coppers to take the Cities offer because it's the best they're going to get and Dean pays them 60K a month for that? Can they hire me? I can shake hands with the city and bullshit coppers and cancel their arbitrations for 60K a month. This clan is a joke but you all voted him in. I think they pay Baum & Sigman more than 60K a month but with that it's $720,000 a year however I'm sure dean is paying them close to 80K a year."
The real question you have to ask yourself, how much are they kicking back to Dean?
He told you upfront he was getting rid of the in house attorney and you all giggled with glee like a bunch of 4th grade little girls.
"Yep, you heard correctly. Bella will take $50k a year and work only 4 days a week and not on call for shootings. The Board was split on it and will be voted on next month.
11/04/2014 10:19:00 PM"
You should have voted for him the first time it would have been cheaper in the long run.Precisely the reason you keep guys in place that have been currently doing the job especially during contract time But you morons bitch you want change,you get less in terms of contract and wind up paying out more to consultants & lawyers F'ng Dummies those that voted for Angelo& those that sat on their ballot and didn't do shit.
Can anyone tell me how much are we getting back if you worked vri all year round ??? I need to payoff this porshe as soon as possible or the repo man is going to snatch it..
Yes furlough by watch. Love it. I work 1st watch don't care about 2nd watch crybabies.
11/04/2014 08:08:00 PM
Hey stupid!
May you have a long career on midnights and a short retirement afterwards! DUMMY!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can anyone tell me how much are we getting back if you worked vri all year round ??? I need to payoff this porshe as soon as possible or the repo man is going to snatch it..
11/05/2014 02:01:00 PM
Y'know, if you knew how to spell it, I might believe you own it.
Not only does Dean pay them 60k a month (I'm sure it's more) but he also always buys them lunch as they're at FOP nearly everyday "hanging out" and billing him for it.
It was only a matter of time before Dean brought out that he wanted to pay Bella. That was part of their campaign scheme.
Coppers voted them in office and now want to complain. The City hated Bill Dougherty, why? Because he always fought tooth and nail for coppers. He'd put them on blast in his newsletters, wouldn't back down in mediations or arbitrations and had 12 years of negotiation experience that he always fought on coppers behalf which is why the contract always had to go to an arbitrator.
Dean comes in and SHOCKER contract settled in favor of the City. This is who you all voted in. Sad.
"Even if we didnt lose furlough by unit WTF would it matter to me with 30 years on? And only one to go?"
TRU dat. We all should be honored to work VRI with such a selfless sole.
Please don't insult slow kids or retards by comparing them to Ray Casiano. He can only aspire to be like them.
Anonymous said...
Can anyone tell me how much are we getting back if you worked vri all year round ??? I need to payoff this porshe as soon as possible or the repo man is going to snatch it..
11/05/2014 02:01:00 PM
Is that a front porch or a back porch? Makes a difference you know.
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