Here We Go Again
- A Staten Island grand jury on Wednesday ended the criminal case against a white New York police officer whose chokehold on an unarmed black man led to the man’s death, a decision that drew condemnation from elected officials and touched off a wave of protests.
The fatal encounter in July was captured on videos and seen around the world. But after viewing the footage and hearing from witnesses, including the officer who used the chokehold, the jurors deliberated for less than a day before deciding that there was not enough evidence to go forward with charges against the officer, Daniel Pantaleo, 29, in the death of the man, Eric Garner, 43.
And the Chicago media can't wait to find a "local connection" to the story:
- The ABC7 I-Team looked into Chicago police and the use of choke holds during arrests.
The choke hold that resulted in Eric Garner's death in New York is not taught to Chicago police nor is it approved for use by Chicago police. A Chicago police official reiterated Wednesday night what the I-Team has found going through the rules and regulations of the police department here. But in New York, choke holds are also banned for use by police.
- Choke holds weren't always banned by Chicago Police. "At one point in time it was taught at the Academy," recalls former Chicago Police spokesman Pat Camden, now with the Fraternal Order of Police union.
Chicago has exactly ZERO relevance to the New York story, but to make it "relate-able" we suppose they have to paint everyone with the same brush.
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posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
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As I recall we were only taught to use choke holds on reporters. It was illegal on everyone else.
Maybe we can publish Chuck Goudie's address too. What a tool.
January may be Chicago's turn in the national spotlight for killing unarmed citizens. At least it should be cold, non-rioting weather for our turn in the barrel.
http://news.yahoo.com/trial-nears-white-chicago-police-officer-killed-black-121702684.html
Gangsta rappers and race hustlers like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson brainwash young black kids to hate and fight the police. This is why the police sometimes need to use force. The NYC police officer was right in the case and these protesters are too stupid to understand. Do any of these protestors even vote??
Charles Barkley made a good point. Imagine places like Englewood or Austin with no police.. Think how crazy things would be..
Nobody pays any taxes in these areas, so why should they get any police resources?? Why should they get free police protection paid for be me the taxpayer?
It IS relevant because it is another example of police over use of force, inappropriate use of force, and very poor judgement on the part of a police officer, all of which resulted in the death of a citizen.
May every nitwit on the I-Team come home to find a "Big Creepy" or three pawing through their panty drawer...
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Boys and girls be careful out there,the national media is all over the police because no indictments in MO and NYC,as we all know the grand jury hears the facts and evidence but it's clear the talking heads and protesters don't care about facts all they see is black and white,everybody has a camera phone and would love to catch us fucking up,watch yourself and back each other up,be safe
I hated to leave the job when it came time to me it really sucked but after seeing what these kids are up against today I'm glad I'm gone take care of each other cause no one's gonna take care of you remember there are still a lot of us who will be there for you not all of us are running away we took an oath.
I cant Breathe He should have stopped resisting Watch the vid he keeps resisting I cant breathe well then Put your hands up then Duh!
I cant breathe right
then STop Resisting
You have to stir up crap somewhere when there is no real news.
These people protesting for a convicted Felon who was resisting police going to jail! Yea okay! Now go get a real job instead of doing stupid shit in the streets people!
Th choke hold issue in NYC is a policy violation. Again the media fails to report facts.
Oh yea, the mayor of NYC is a turd!!
I almost threw a brick at my television watching that race baiting bitch on CNN. Thank goodness there was a former NYPD Detective who shut her pie hole.
I can't breathe because I'm fighting the police. Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown and this knucklehead would all still be alive if they didn't act like assholes, plain and simple.
I love the media when it keeps tossing the fact that Eric Garner is a father of 6, as if that should mean something. My golden retriever had a litter of 9.
Bring back the sap training!
Make no mistake- Emmanuel, McCarthy, et al, we'll thow any copper under the bus if anything happens here. Unless, you really believe you will be dead if you don't act, don't do it. NOBODY will have your back.
Sorry to say, but the G is pissed now. They are getting this guy on civil rights no matter what the rules.
For selling loose cigarettes?
Is this the society we want to live in as the oligarchs get off with crimes several orders of magnitude worse.
By Bob McManus
Blame only the man who tragically decided to resist
Eric Garner suffered a heart attack during his arrest by the NYPD and died soon after.
Eric Garner and Michael Brown had much in common, not the least of which was this: On the last day of their lives, they made bad decisions. Epically bad decisions.
Each broke the law — petty offenses, to be sure, but sufficient to attract the attention of the police.
And then — tragically, stupidly, fatally, inexplicably — each fought the law.
The law won, of course, as it almost always does.
This was underscored yet again Wednesday when a Staten Island grand jury chose not to indict any of the arresting officers in the death in police custody of Garner last July.
Just as a grand jury last week declined to indict the police officer who shot a violently resisting Michael Brown to death in Ferguson, Mo., in August.
Demagoguery rises to an art form in such cases — because, again, the police generally win. (Though not always, as a moment’s reflection before the Police Memorial in lower Manhattan will underscore.) And because those who advocate for cop-fighters are so often such accomplished beguilers.
They cast these tragedies as, if not outright murder, then invincible evidence of an enduringly racist society.
No such thing, as a matter of fact. Virtually always, these cases represent sad, low-impact collisions of cops and criminals — routine in every respect except for an outlier conclusion.
The Garner case is textbook.
Eric Garner was a career petty criminal who’d experienced dozens of arrests, but had learned nothing from them. He was on the street July 17, selling untaxed cigarettes one at a time — which, as inconsequential as it seems, happens to be a crime.
Yet another arrest was under way when, suddenly, Garner balked. “This ends here,” he shouted — as it turned out, tragically prophetic words — as he began struggling with the arresting officer.
Again, this was a bad decision. Garner suffered from a range of medical ailments — advanced diabetes, plus heart disease and asthma so severe that either malady might have killed him, it was said at the time.
Still, he fought — and at one point during the struggle, a cop wrapped his arm around Garner’s neck.
That image was captured on bystander video and later presented as irrefutable evidence of an “illegal” chokehold and, therefore, grounds for a criminal indictment against the cop.
That charge fails, and here’s why.
First, while “chokeholds” are banned by NYPD regulation, they’re not illegal under state law when used by a cop during a lawful arrest. So much for criminal charges, given that nobody seriously disputes the legitimacy of the arrest.
Second, and this speaks to the ubiquitous allegation that cops are treated “differently” than ordinary citizens in deadly-force cases: Indeed they are — and it is the law itself that confers the privilege.
The law gives cops the benefit of every reasonable doubt in the good-faith performance of their duties — and who would really have it any other way?
Cops who need to worry about whether the slightest mishap — a minor misunderstanding that escalates to violence of any sort — might result in criminal charges and a prison term are not cops who are going to put the public’s interests first.
Finally, there is this: There were 228,000 misdemeanor arrests in New York City in 2013, the last year for which there are audited figures, and every one of them had at least the potential to turn into an Eric Garner-like case.
None did.
So much for the “out of control” cop trope. So much for the notion that everyday citizens — or even criminals with the presence of mind to keep their hands to themselves — have something to fear from the NYPD.
Keep this in mind as the rhetoric fogs the facts in the hours and days ahead.
For there are many New Yorkers — politicians, activists, trial lawyers, all the usual suspects — who will now seek to profit from a tragedy that wouldn’t have happened had Eric Garner made a different decision.
He was a victim of himself. It’s just that simple.
Jesus didn't tap out but this guy should have..........
The man was being hassled and arrested for selling single cigarettes on a street corner. Doesn't the NYPD have bigger criminals to catch, or crime to fight?
Chokehold is against NYPD regulations but not against the law. This idiot had diabetes, heart disease etc. etc. He looked like he might die walking up a flight of stairs, what the hell was he thinking? His last words? You know... right before the "I can't breath" part, "this ends today!"It sure did.
http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_2_criminal_justice_system.html
Outstanding Article
"Is the Criminal Justice System Racist?"
a person can not speak if they are choking he died of a heart attack
Indeed, choke holds were part of our training at O'Brien street in the 60's. Instructor Krok was great at putting us into unconsciousness. The good old days.
On the whole "I can't breathe"/resisting" issue... as someone who's run a few nasty asthma attacks and knows what it's like to BE out of air, it's virtually impossible to ask a guy who may be legitimately suffocating to "stop resisting"; instinct to survive kicks in and after a certain point he is going to be fighting mindlessly to get away. (Try it at the pool sometime - have a buddy dunk you and hold you under for a few minutes. Or just recall those childhoods at the lake with an older sibling...)
As to whether he was legit suffocating, well... dude's dead over a handful of loosies.
The correlation I see in MO and NY, is that a man first of all commits a crime, followed by their refusal to cooperate with police who are then required to use force to place them in custody.
It happens tens of thousands of times a day.
Now add 'unarmed black' and 'white' police officer into the mix by the media.
Which example is now inflammatory?
Anonymous said...
It IS relevant because it is another example of police over use of force, inappropriate use of force, and very poor judgement on the part of a police officer, all of which resulted in the death of a citizen.
12/04/2014 12:40:00 AM
And you know this, exactly how? You must have been there or read the grand jury transcripts? Or you are just a natural born police hating liberal, probably with lots of white guilt.
slightly OT...but did anyone hear about the shooting at a cop bar in south StLouis late Tues nite ? 4 patrons and 2 'teen' perps shot, and the only source I saw report on it was gatewaypundit.com . SIX people shot, and no media coverage ? Anyway, CPD plz be careful on & off-duty ... this thing might only be in the first few innings unfortunately ....
I'm no doctor but anybody that says "I can't breath" 10 times is indeed BREATHING.
He was right in 1 thing he said. "This stops here today"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It IS relevant because it is another example of police over use of force, inappropriate use of force, and very poor judgement on the part of a police officer, all of which resulted in the death of a citizen.
12/04/2014 12:40:00 AM
Unlawful resistance to a lawful arrest is what resulted in the death of a criminal.
Chokeholds to overpower and subdue ASSAILANTS and active resisters should be SOP for law enforcement...
>I gots da asthma! I can't breath!<
"OK then you hard head muthafuckah, stop fighting and graciously accept these here handcuffs and leg irons!"
The real problem as we see it?
Every-Fucking-Body from the libtard and Dude Inc. camp desperately wants "Duty to Retreat/Promise to Do No Harm" engraved in the Police Use of Force Paradigm.
Sorry... Hands on = We will try our best to put your ass in the hospital for a few weeks. But when the cuffs go on, the ass kicking stops. You have our word.
Not brutality.
Just reality.
We'll never forget the Mommy Yuppie bellowing her outrage when we K.O'd an assailant who was moments earlier escorted off a CTA bus for being an unruly ass. He thought it would be fun to play "Bop da Cop."
Yuppie Mommy missed the initial unlawful
contact by the offender (Naturally!) but she saw all of our left cross blow through his jaw...
You would've sworn she was being buggered with a ball bat she carried on so much.
"AAIIEEE! You hurt that man!"
She was of course politely told to STFU, stop obstructing traffic and be on her way in her yuppie mobile or she herself was going to be subject to a Police action.
...Mid '90's when CTA special was kinda fun. ;^)
Never really understood why people would get so damned goofy when Policemen are forced to play a goon hand with the cards they're dealt on the streets?
The smart ones among us DO NOT relish contact with our public because we don't want to take ghastly shit home to OUR families.
Protect yourselves at all costs and don't give a fuck about hurting feelings to get through the day safe and sound.
Nobody gives a pointy shit end about you (and your family) but YOU!
You should watch the New York PBA response-news conference. well spoken copper, wonder if you'd get this out of FOP or would they put their head down and let you get kicked around like dog crap.
As a bystander, what gets me the most about this stuff is not so much the question of the use of force by the police, as the way they treat it as an important social issue. If the hazard for blacks is the chance that a cop might kill them in a violent confrontation, the obvious solution is to not get into violent confrontations with cops. Can the little darlings not figure that out? Information too tough to process?
When will someone speak up for the police?!!!
If these offenders did not resist they would still be alive, or how about not violating the law to begin with. Where are the union leaders, or police chiefs, or someone with some balls to speak the truth. We are going to start standing down if nobody has our backs & crime will run rampant across the country.
Don't blame the police , we enforce the laws that the jackass aldercreatures pass to make money
let's place blame on subject that refuses to be taken into custody
12/04/2014 12:40 AM said:
"It IS relevant because it is another example of police over use of force, inappropriate use of force, and very poor judgement on the part of a police officer, all of which resulted in the death of a citizen"
Try again. It is relevant because it is another example of a citizen failing to comply with a police request AND actively resisting arrest.
Sorry, Charlie. But when a citizen resists arrest, and uses their bodies to thwart an arrest, the police have the right to use force, and escalate it if the citizen continues to resist, i.e.
not putting your hands behind your back, etc. Every state has deadly force statutes on the books. Maybe go read a few. These are there for a reason.
Just put on your thinking cap and consider what would happen if police could not arrest people who resisted. How many murderers, rapists and thugs would take advantage? Did you think about that, slick?
I'm not even an LEO or an attorney, but I can figure that one out. Doesn't take a genius. It only takes common sense, which, sadly, isn't all that common today.
How about we educate at risk kids on the perils of resisting arrest? Obviously their "parents" aren't teaching them that at home.
Maybe, just maybe, if the poverty pimps Al and Jesse would use their influence to start a dialogue between LEO, prosecutors and at risk kids at an early stage, these children would not grow up thinking it is okay to resist arrest, and that the consequences of doing so could put them six feet under.
Why don't we try that approach, huh?
Holder...you out- going fuck off... mind your own business and quit trying to decriminalize the criminal elements of society..."If you don't
want to die at the hands of the Police, don't committ a crime."
'Police don't do drive by's.'
Yo, Holder...try to help the segmented society you cherish,
NOT point the finger of blame at the Guardians of the Nation
If you can't breathe you can't talk
Do ur 8 and skate kids.
Does this mean all the fools including some NFL players will walk around with their hands around their throats now?
Very scary times for police officers today. Even after 12 independent people in a GJ hear every bit of evidence and come to a decision, the media and other scum cry foul. The police today are more gentle than ever and less aggressive and the politicians and media still cry. The days of pro-active policing are OVER! Being an aggressive cop is dangerous. Just go to your calls, do what is right and go home safe.
Since 2012 police across the United States have shot and killed over 300 white people and about 125 black people,so for all the talking heads who say the police target or profile black people GFY
How was it a choke hold when the arrestee said "I cant breathe" if he could speak then the air way was open,hence not an airway strangulation.
I saw a head lock and a take down performed,much like any high school wrestler would use.
Choke holds are less lethal techniques.
Anonymous said...
It IS relevant because it is another example of police over use of force, inappropriate use of force, and very poor judgement on the part of a police officer, all of which resulted in the death of a citizen.
12/04/2014 12:40:00 AM
Hey, stop putting a chokehold on your tiny cocktail wiener, pull up your multi-colored socks, straighten your girlish ponytail, pull the earbuds out, put down the porn mags you found in the old box in mommy's basement, and pay attention.
Simple formula: Don't fight the police; you won't get hurt.
This is an instance that this kind of stuff is the result of all the tax attack that government does for the so called good of the people!
Instead, what really happens is government created a black market for profit!
When government has creative competition to take advantage of the high costs! It sends out specialized vice units to do stuff like arrest people for petty victimless crimes!
I hope New York City pays out the ass for this!
This stupid Nanny Democrats NEVER learn!
Just like Rahm keeps writing out checks to the NRA, after losing in courts!
I can't breathe because I am eating skittles with my hands up.
I paint all media now with the same brush. I don't like any of them. I don't watch them on tv nor do I listen to their babble.
Where is the same outrage from the community and the leftists in general regarding black on black crime and black on black killings that kill hundreds just in Chicago each year? Much less across the nation. That number far surpasses police killings but lets just keep that a dirty little secret and talk about the white man putting the brother down.
This shit is like one of those wave pools at a waterpark..... just keeps coming over and over again.
Gangsta rappers and race hustlers like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson brainwash young black kids to hate and fight the police. This is why the police sometimes need to use force. The NYC police officer was right in the case and these protesters are too stupid to understand. Do any of these protestors even vote??
Charles Barkley made a good point. Imagine places like Englewood or Austin with no police.. Think how crazy things would be..
Nobody pays any taxes in these areas, so why should they get any police resources?? Why should they get free police protection paid for be me the taxpayer?
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Go spew that BULLSHIT some where else. I live in North Austin and pay my taxes like THOUSANDS of other residents throughout Austin, which also includes police residents.
it may be time for what they call.....de-policing......minimal response, no arrests, no interactions by the police....every citizen may well be on their own....come to think of it, if a citizen needs help, call Sharpton, because no one else is coming
I can't breathe because I am eating skittles with my hands up.
12/04/2014 03:12:00 PM
I bet your hoodie got stained with your "purple drank" too!
Damn Skittles, hands, hoodies and what nots.
Give them what they want, don't fight or arrest anybody, or you'll be indicted next. Let them ravage their communities and then they'll wonder where the police are. I'm done with this thankless job!
If the resisting subject can repeatedly speak the words "I can't breathe", then the subject is obviously capable of breathing. The libtard brain and the media cannot seem to comprehend this FACT.
For selling loose cigarettes?
Is this the society we want to live in as the oligarchs get off with crimes several orders of magnitude worse.
12/04/2014 08:46:00 AM
No, I want to live in a society without ignorant, pompous assholes such as yourself.
I can't breathe because I am eating skittles with my hands up.
12/04/2014 03:12:00 PM
LOL
Goudie was on Kass this morning and was talking about a case from the early 2000's where the Officers were exonerated. He was insinuating that the fix was in. A jury of 12 decided for the Officers but that wasn't good enough, the appeal was turned down also. What do they want, i know, a white cop in jail.
How much hand-to-hand combat training do officers typically receive?
From the picures it appears a rear naked choke (Hadake-jime) was applied. Despite the name, this is a strangulation technique. Strangulation involves cutting off blood to the brain while a choke cuts of the supply of air to the lungs. You can talk while being strangled, but not while being choked.
People have been calling this a hold, but this technique is used to incapacitate/kill an opponent, not control their movements. A control hold would usually be some type of joint lock; typically fingers, wrist, elbow or shoulder. The idea is to inflict enough pain that their body instinctively stops resisting and goes in the direction you lead. These locks allow you to apply extreme pain without causing any injury.
Not excusing the perp's actions, I just wish police officers received better combat training.
Anonymous said...
The man was being hassled and arrested for selling single cigarettes on a street corner. Doesn't the NYPD have bigger criminals to catch, or crime to fight?
12/04/2014 08:59:00 AM
Don't you have someones dick that you are supposed to be sucking right now???
I remember when my FTO cranked a headlock on me when I refused to open his door for him on our police cruiser.
Anonymous said...
How was it a choke hold when the arrestee said "I cant breathe" if he could speak then the air way was open,hence not an airway strangulation.
I saw a head lock and a take down performed,much like any high school wrestler would use.
Choke holds are less lethal techniques.
12/04/2014 02:45:00 PM
He couldn't breathe because he was a fat disgusting slob. He basically choked himself. No chokehold. If anything it was positional asphyxia.
Anonymous said...
Very scary times for police officers today. Even after 12 independent people in a GJ hear every bit of evidence and come to a decision, the media and other scum cry foul. The police today are more gentle than ever and less aggressive and the politicians and media still cry. The days of pro-active policing are OVER! Being an aggressive cop is dangerous. Just go to your calls, do what is right and go home safe.
12/04/2014 02:04:00 PM
12 jurors are on a trial jury. Grand juries normally have more jurors, as many as 23.
Just A Citizen Says: 9:00 p.m. Thursday night during the Bears Game. Throngs of morons marching down Michigan Avenue and Chicago screaming with their hands up. I hope they get frostbite. Police "babysitting" them. Seriously? This is all they have to do with their time? Moan and complain about their "first-world problems?" Stay safe Officers. I have a feeling this is going to continue. As a side-note: Some asshole stole my Dad's cane today out of his shopping cart at the Dollar Store in the lily-white suburbs. What a world. I hope the asshole falls using it and smashes their head open. How you guys deal with this day after day is beyond me. God bless all of you.
Top Cops #1 priority should be secure communications. Outlaws were frequently a step ahead of the blue line tonight b/c they were monitoring citywide etc.
Where are the experienced military veterans on the force- should be advising top cop etc
This is a huge safety to LEO issue. City scanner reveals the thousands of folks (& peoples) monitoring leo unsecured communications.
Can't control twitter but you can secure comms.
Amateurs.
CommsChief(Ret)
Is verbal judo still allowed?
Hey libtards everwhere, what part of, you are under arrest, don't you understand. The court is where you argue your case, not on the street to the officer.
Once you here those four magic words, not complying equals resisting.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I remember when my FTO cranked a headlock on me when I refused to open his door for him on our police cruiser.
12/04/2014 08:05:00 PM
You Jersey guys must be fun to work with.
Love the police! Thanks for protecting us!
Anonymous said...
"...Not excusing the perp's actions, I just wish police officers received better combat training."
12/04/2014 06:51:00 PM
Not finna happ'n cap'n!
Prior (and certifiable/verifiable) training got you yelled at and punished if you showed it while you were in the academy.
"Cut that shit out! It ain't in the curriculum!"
(Protecting an annointed heir from getting his
ass torn up by a nobody that nobody sent?)
None of that joint crushing, bone bending and pressure pointing stuff by Chicago Policemen.
Now guess who has final say over how hard Policemen can defend themselves?
Corporation Counsel...
AKA The head municipal corporate lawyer.
The m/fer who NEVER had to fight for his life in a pissy CHA stairwell.
They're skittish about green lighting Policemen to destroying people (and folks) to overcome their active resistance and fighting lawful arrest.
Aren't Policemen supposed to be ferocious and dangerous in the extreme?
Yung Buk, Big Creepy, Scudder and the rest of Dude Inc. are more dangerous and have the weight of being catered to constituents behind them.
"I ain't scared of no po-leece!"
The public had better make the media cease and desist with villifying The Police as part of an agenda.
For all this wanting to make The Police go away?
Nothing good will come of it.
I'm callin all criminals of color to boycott smash and grabs. Let's show the world we're serious,
Maybe ya'll doing street robberies will join us!
Hey dope dealers no more dope for no one!
No crime for no one till the police stop defending themselves!
I understand the Anger of feeling upset over a cops life being possibly ruined, but unlike in say, the Mike Brown situation, why are people so disrespectful towards Eric Garner? And not only a few here, but plenty of commentors over plenty of police blogs, news site comments sections and etc.?
It's not like Eric Garner raped someone's grandma, beat and killed police or was some scumbag gangbanger. He sold untaxed cigs. Not even weed. Yes, for the time up until the choke hold, take-down, or whatever one decides to call it, he resisted arrest. but not even then did he become violent or do anything I feel is warranted to bash the man.
enforce tax violations agressively...your pension depends on it?!
or
rham is counting on u to balance the budget!
Communist agitators like Bill Ayers are behind all of the nonsensical protests. If people knew the real facts, there would be protests against criminal behavior, not police response to it.
Anonymous said...
I understand the Anger of feeling upset over a cops life being possibly ruined, but unlike in say, the Mike Brown situation, why are people so disrespectful towards Eric Garner? And not only a few here, but plenty of commentors over plenty of police blogs, news site comments sections and etc.?
It's not like Eric Garner raped someone's grandma, beat and killed police or was some scumbag gangbanger. He sold untaxed cigs. Not even weed. Yes, for the time up until the choke hold, take-down, or whatever one decides to call it, he resisted arrest. but not even then did he become violent or do anything I feel is warranted to bash the man.
12/04/2014 11:52:00 PM
He was a POS who was arrested over 30 times. He resisted arrest,(another crime).
Why are you so respectful toward him?
Responding to: 12/04/2014 11:52:00
It's not like Eric Garner raped someone's grandma, beat and killed police ....
Are you for real? Read up on this guy. He had quite the rap sheet, over 30 arrests since he was 16. He was NOT an angel and I am sure the Officer had a reason for wanting to arrest him AND let;s not forget that the Officer didn't kill him, his obesity and bad health did.
Stop looking for loopholes. The FACTS don't lie. Overweight, asthma (from smoking) and a career criminal.
Just another "Honor Student" in the making I guess.
So sick of all you idiots who don't do your homework before opening up your traps. Read up on this guy.
Does this mean that EVERYONE who dies of a heart attack after being arrested was KILLED by the police?
And this is what is causing the upcoming Civil War. Idiots like you who are so stupid you believe everything the talking heads tell you. You have the internet, so research both sides of the story.
Moron.
Some of you coppers better get your head out of your asses! You're going to jam yourself up over someone selling loose cigarettes? He wasn't selling weed,rocks,or blows. He was selling loose cigarettes. The other plainclothes officer is captured saying,"you sold to a guy wearing a red shirt,not that guy there,but another guy." If you're going to arrest people for that,why didn't you arrest him? Then you could have arrested Garner, and had seller and buyer in custody. Did you inventory any loose cigarettes? A bunch of coppers and the paramedics on scene are going to take major time and some will definitely be terminated from the job because of cigarettes.
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