Cameras Cameras Everywhere
Someone asking a camera question we hope doesn't need an answer:
- The city and evidence.com are asking PO's to sign a contract with evidence.com. Is that kosher??????
Don't you dare sign anything like that. You'd have to be freaking insane to do that. Call your rep, call the FOP.
In the mean time, an all-call message went out from 014 notifying anyone in adjoining districts that up to 40 cameras were being deployed nightly in the District. That is certainly amazing, seeing as how:
In the mean time, an all-call message went out from 014 notifying anyone in adjoining districts that up to 40 cameras were being deployed nightly in the District. That is certainly amazing, seeing as how:
- there has been ZERO training in Camera usage. You are expected to show up for work, sign out a camera, strap that baby on, and go do police work. That's it - good luck.
- there has been no communication from the city to our fine labor organization regarding the cameras. Not a single memo, legal brief, training class, etc.
- no word on when you should activate it, no direction on when you are restricted by the Constitution, not a single bit of info on what constitutes a lawful use of a camera outside on a street stop, inside a domicile answering a call, traffic stops, meetings with supervisors.
- since this is a piece of equipment signed out to you, you are responsible if anything turns up broken, detached, disabled, etc., you're on the hook.
This is direct from the meeting this week. One would think that maybe the FOP would step up and point out the inanity of supplying officers with something they have no idea how to use and expecting it to be used properly. You wouldn't just issue a cop a flame thrower without instruction, a manual, a legal bulletin, and expect them to use it properly. Unless of course, it was a Vanecko Flame Thrower - then you know that the City is just doing it for the money.
Anyone know if Hilliard still works for Taser International? Is he getting his beak wet in this budding debacle?
Anyone know if Hilliard still works for Taser International? Is he getting his beak wet in this budding debacle?
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
144 Comments:
Have to be careful on medical runs cause of HIPA
since this is a piece of equipment signed out to you, you are responsible if anything turns up broken, detached, disabled, etc., you're on the hook.
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Not on the hook financially. Should an innocent accidental damage happen and properly reported the worst that can happen is a reprimand. Especially with no training. In the early 80s there would be about 40 minor accidents in the first week or two with 40 officers, you know, guys who don't give a shit and have some nuts would take the reprimand with a smile. Even if it was a day it would be done for the greater good. Today? Nope. Cowards who are terrified to get into trouble or take a day. You don't get fired. This isn't school where the principal calls your parents. You get a piece of paper telling you that your two days off a week just turned into 3... Win/win. Crybabies everywhere these days. I mostly blame the group who started coming on between 97 or so till 2005. Those late 90s hires are all bitter whiners now.. It's sickening the types of guys who come on this job. All individuals, no team players
Was the Sergeant's Association notified?
Was the Lieutenant's Association Notified?
Was The Captain's Association Notified?
But I like a flame thrower on 3 and 4 July. Or maybe I'll just reminisce about Richard Pryor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjD4PHojNBU
So let say i put my camera in my pocket and it is recording sound.
I catch a conversation of an exempt talking about changing the classification of a case report and rewording it.
What do i do? Not say anything and let it be downloaded?
Can an exempt erase the video thus having the ability to destroy evidence.
What if my victim is an Alderman and they use colorful language?
Why should i trust any white shirt with my career haven't we had exempts in the detective division disappear with felony files?
Working for the CPD is always interesting. Never a dull moment.
SCC. I was there and there was training. I'm not a fan of the cameras and don't want to use one myself but post accurate info
Where is Legal, Corp Council, FOP on this? How does one get informed consent? Does an Officer at a disturbance or at a criminal situation just stop the show and ask Offenders for their consent? Is there a contract, a consent form or just word of mouth on this? What if one Offender agrees and the other Offender does not agree? Do you just walk away? Holy Cow. Big action, huge responsibility. Tighten your belts and be careful out there...this is 'Risky Business'. Officers would at least have half a chance if they had training. This city is up for grabs.
Breaking news- Hillard was awarded a marijuana license for the State of Illinois. He will make millions....
Good Luck!
Rahm can take one of those cameras and do a colonoscopy with it. I'm sure he'll find at least one polyp with it that will look suspiciously like McBoozer.
Rahm's Trick Bag designed to direct the anger from the public due to the overreaching political apparatus toward the police as the public rebels against the constitutional lawbreakers.
Money, so far out of reach that the material things no longer matter as there are no jobs to fulfill the once proud American dream.
So people are just taking, bypassing the rules.
Laws where we pick and choose who they apply to reenforces the hopelessness.
Trust in the entire system is on the edge of...
Lord help us all.
This article speaks to the new eavesdropping law recently passed by Quinn. The article specifically states that the new law does not address police body cameras, but our department starts the body camera program without any training for the officers or understanding the legal aspects of their use.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-quinn-signs-illinois-eavesdropping-law-met-1231-20141230-story.html
Haha haha a real good program....notify the media.
welcome to the 21st century world of Policing. after 2 or 3 years these cameras will be able to do direct data uploads, "Hey Sgt, Look what I can do". Sgt will be in a shit box squad with a bag of pop corn, watching Ricki Recruit get his ass handed to him by Ray Ray.
Where's FOP?????? Wtf!!!!!
The FOP will not step up to the plate on this.
Dean, what can I do for you Rahm?, Angelo has been on record saying he thinks these body cams are a great idea!
Really Dean? How about you and RAHM both wear them during your next session of grab ass with each other?
Not a cop.You hit the nail on the head. Someone wired clout wise is making BIG money on this. Why is the Union not saying ,training before anybody puts one on!
You can thank acting Commander MB for the cameras in 014. He would like that acting to turn into a gold star.
Shut it down boys and girls.
I hope there is a camera in Mike Madigan's house when he hears the news about his New York doppelganger. It looks like New York's version of Madigan was caught doing all the things Madigan takes for granted and is going to spend hid declining years in the pen where he belongs. Good by Shelly.
The Justice Department got this one right in New York. Now, do you think they have the guts to take on the most corrupt state in the Union? I certainly hope so. I am not holding my breath after the Blago wire was pulled because of where it was leading.
And all Disability Dean kept hanging his hat on at the meeting Tuesday was The claim that some guy that trains people on the use of the cameras was present to answer all questions. The only question this guy answered and I take issue with is that he claims it takes a whole five minutes to train a person how to use it. Other that's true or not it does not address the concerns you listed SCC. Some unit rep took the microphone with his concern as to whether or not the things continually records audio. FLOP claims it erases itself every 30 seconds while recording everything and that you have to manually override it to record something that you want to keep. All Dean kept repeating was that he thinks it's a good idea to have both audio and video in the event it is necessary to protect the officer from accusations. Sounds like bullshit to me.
Well, since the FOP seems to get their ideas from SCC, I'd expect them to come out with something forthwith....just like after SCC pointed out the despicable pardon of the asshole who shot (at) coppers. It wasn't until SCC pointed it out that FOP came out with a statement condemning it.
God forbid the FOP members think like a street copper.
I was at the meeting on Tuesday. All Dean did regarding these cameras was tap dance around the concerns that many members presented. He kept deferring to the so called expert that they invited to the meeting, having him reassure the officers that training can be done in as little as five or 10 minutes and that the things are not always recording unless you somehow activate them. Some unit rep mentioned that he did some research on the cameras and was aware that they continually record in a 30 second loop whether or not you activate them. So something distasteful you may have said in the squad car while in conversation with your partner will theoretically not exist 30 seconds later. AND IF YOU BELIEVE THAT BULLSHIT I'VE GOT A BRIDGE TO SELL YOU. FOP WAS SO FULL OF SHIT TRYING TO SELL THIS AT THE MEETING TUESDAY IT WAS DISGUSTING. our so-called union leader is in bed with our enemies folks.
It may have been brought up earlier, but I've seen other police videos on the internet of officers being murdered on video, and news organizations using a request to obtain video so they can post it on the internet. I think fop should be able to restrict that video, I don't want my family for years to see me or my co workers last minutes of life being killed on body camera video.
Don't be a fool and sign anything like that. I had some fool attorney try and tell me I had to sign some form that he told me not to question his juvenile that I was merely processing for a stabbing unless he was present.
I told him in a professional way that the form he was trying to force me to sign was not an official Form and that I was under no obligation to sign it. I also told him in front of the LT and Sgt that if my signature appeared on the form that I would lock him up for Forgery and have him disbarred by the ARDC. He promptly turned around and walked down the stairs.
Tell evidence.com and the city to go pound freaking sand.
Put the camera on at roll calls tape these bosses and their speeches then just claim I don't know why it's on no training!
Just so you know, it is not a flame thrower.
And, with a camera, how do you know it is working.
What if it isn't?
You will then be accused of hiding evidence or something if you have a stop with a complaint.
Destroying evidence?
Did you say flame throwers? Yes finally! I say bring on the bottle throwing illegal block parties!
PO is suing FOP for lack of representation in allowing cameras with no training
Not mandated by the city What is "Volunteering? Its not an order so don't comply Make management order you to put a camera on your body.
who's gonna be the first guy to take a leak with the camera accidentally on????
Hilliard will be one of the listed executive producers when it hits Youtube!
Remember to have it on while at lunch. They want to see healthy eating now.
How long before "bogus" cameras appear. wearing them will keep the public honest. I would wear one of them. Yoo Hoo Kales.
I wouldn't expect anything less from both the City, or the Union. I didn't vote for this Union slate, but it's been not quite a year, and I have to say I'm not impressed at all. The previous crew needed to go, without a doubt, but these guys are ridiculous.
I remember when the in car cameras came out. They said they would only record if u activate emergency equipment, etc. Well we found out shortly after following a major incident that those cameras are ALWAYS recording. They downed all the cars and pulled the video and what do you know... We found out those cameras are always recording. Be very careful with these cameras. You can lose your job over a 2 second conversation captured on these things.
I would never in a million years volunteer to wear those. Lawyers will foia those videos 10 years down the road and pick apart everything you did and sue for who knows what.
Anonymous said...
Where is Legal, Corp Council, FOP on this? How does one get informed consent? Does an Officer at a disturbance or at a criminal situation just stop the show and ask Offenders for their consent? Is there a contract, a consent form or just word of mouth on this? What if one Offender agrees and the other Offender does not agree? Do you just walk away? Holy Cow. Big action, huge responsibility. Tighten your belts and be careful out there...this is 'Risky Business'. Officers would at least have half a chance if they had training. This city is up for grabs.
If?!?! Smiff!?!.... If my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle.
This is a very tough situation if you are one of the lab rats that gets to wear this piece of equipment. If you are a lab rat, you should probably educate yourself pronto. Call legal affairs and talk to someone. Research eavesdropping laws. Do everything you can to educate yourself on this because you will be in the trick bag should something go wrong. DO NOT listen to some salty dog talk smack before roll call. They will probably give you some type of advice like the above comment. They won't be going to give witness statements for you. This job is all fun and games til things go wrong and then you're on an island. Do not count on your union to back you. And it does suck that we are completely hung to dry and we have no union to look out for our best interests. But you have to look at it this way...if you believe your so called union is only looking out for their own good, shouldn't you do the same. Lodge 7 has been compromised. Please educate yourself.
Great info! But when do I get my flame thower?
And who has access to the video? Divorce attorneys, or just lawyers involved in criminal complaints. And what about the citizen; does he/she give up their right to privacy? Anyone who thinks this is going to bring the community and police together needs to be urine tested. Neither the police or public are going to feel better knowing that everything said is being recorded. This is nothing more than a political move to appease Obama and Rahm's core constituents; attorneys, well-fare recipients and race hustlers, all of whom form the base of the Democrat Party. The only way this will help police is if the video/recordings are used against citizens filing bogus complaints, but that would require the FOP filing lawsuits on behalf of the officers and that is never going to happen. How many suits have been ever filed against citizens who filed bogus complaints?
Hope there's no audio. Class 4 felony if it's on.
The Taser AXON camera's On/Off switch is magnetically activated. Close proximity to magnetic fields may cause the recorder to turn off or on.
Hilliard is busy getting security business for the marijuana growing and dispensing sites.
My concern is having the audio / sound recording on ALL THE TIME.
Isn't this a violation of Illinois eavesdropping laws? (written by the crooked Illinois lawmaker/politicians)
With the "in-car" camera system we are only allowed to audio record state charge violations.
The audio MUST BE OFF for any municipal violation.
SO.. What is the answer?
Will you ladies and gentlemen please remember to turn off that camera while in the washroom! We dont wanna find out you dont wash your hands properly.
3 more days until my retro check......yes I am buying my own camera and going to the casino in Joliet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how about the new gps radios. we were issued them right before Christmas in 024. no training as to what the buttons or features are of the radio, no mention of gps in the radio, the gps parameters, etc. just here's your new radio and go. this place is ass backwards. it doesn't surprise me at all with the body cameras given the history of training in this department.
go figure!!!
I'd like to ask a White Shirt if they are ok approving an arrest report that has body camera footage and not watching it?
Yes, Terry is still with Taser and raking in lots of cash.
The bosses always take care of each other.
Where is the union equipment committee? Or don't they have one anymore?
Hilliard in the pot business? Gee, what a surprise. That might explain why he always had that dumb look on his face.
Anonymous said...
SCC. I was there and there was training. I'm not a fan of the cameras and don't want to use one myself but post accurate info
1/23/2015 12:46:00 AM
So was I and the training was all of five minutes to learn how to turn the damn thing off and on. The problem is all the unanswered questions with concerns as SCC posted. you just wait until they make an example of someone whose testimony differs even minutely from what appears on video as subpoenaed by the defense attorney. Dean says he's all for body cameras. Of course he is because he doesn't have to wear one. Dean is also for the 10 hour day but he won't tell you that quite yet. It still has to be "evaluated and tweaked before it can go citywide" says FLOP. That's code for the deal is already done with the city but they can't implement it until next year as we have already picked for furlos and watches for 2015. You're missing the bigger picture son. You have been sold out by the very organization voted in to protect you. But then again I'm sure you voted for this useless bunch of clowns on Washington as well as the contract. You and all your impressionable hairgel coworkers that actually voted for these guys and this contract should all pull together a portion of your retro check and apply it toward your own legal defense fund. You're gonna need it pal.
evidence.com
is a branch of TASER. And yes, Hillard will be getting rich off the blue shirts again
Doctor Dean loves body cameras and 10 hours days Bec he doesn't get either! You do, sucker
Anonymous said...
Breaking news- Hillard was awarded a marijuana license for the State of Illinois. He will make millions....
1/23/2015 12:53:00 AM
Isn't it amazing that the elite in our country reward each other, benefit from inside deals, enrich themselves via tax dollars and nothing ever happens? My next door neighbor is from Morocco where this type of stuff happens. He asked me "why do Americans tolerate this sort of stuff?". I had no plausible answer.
If they want a camera on me then fine. I will do every single thing by the book. They can't have it both ways.
hey ssc maybe they can put a camera in the 11th ward office im sure young patricks election/win will be legit
Remember we are going throught this bec Mike Brown tried to kill Darren Wilson. No indictment for Wilson. Now Feds are not going to charge Wilson with civil rights violations.
Another election year public relations stunt and spend thrift no-bid/no-thought scheme. Lawyers find out there's a camera involved with their falsely arrested client, they're more likely to settle for a smaller award.
That's the city reasoning. Don't expect footage being released showing the daily urban rampages either, only the perceived dept misconduct portions.
You're better off to wear your own camera...discreetly.
Dump Rahm 2015.
OT --
"Outsourcing" gone crazy. Do we really want America's 911 system rigged with a "cut switch" located...in RUSSIA?
FCC weighs plan to use Russian satellite network for 911 system, raising security concerns
Published January 22, 2015
"...there's growing concern about a proposal to use Moscow's satellites to transmit America's 911 emergency calls.
"Wireless carriers and public safety organizations have pitched the idea of using Russia's system to the Federal Communications Commission, as part of their recommendations for improving 911 response. Part of the concern is that under the current system, operators have a hard time locating people calling from cell phones indoors -- and Russia's satellite system, called GLONASS, might be able to help.
"But Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Ala., head of a House Armed Services subcommittee, has raised concerns about the influence that might give Vladimir Putin's Russia over the U.S. system.
"In a Jan. 21 letter to Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, Rogers specifically questioned whether Putin might be able to use GLONASS "as a weapon" against the U.S., holding the 911 system "hostage" if he wanted.
"He warned the U.S. could be poised to "disregard" the threat from Putin "so soon after Russia's illegal seizure of Ukrainian territory" -- a source of flaring tension between Russia and the United States.
"In view of the threat posed to the world by Russia's Vladimir Putin, it cannot be seriously considered that the U.S. would rely on a system in that dictator's control for its wireless 911 location capability," Rogers wrote, adding: "Our response to Russia's hybrid warfare, arms control cheating, illegal invasions of sovereign nations, and energy-based extortion must be broad-based isolation and counter-leverage."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/01/22/fcc-weighs-plan-to-use-russian-satellite-network-for-11-system-raising-security/?intcmp=latestnews
Russia has already been threatening our GPS system if we don't allow them to build a base station for their system inside the US.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-27662580
Their system goes down a lot, too...
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2139300/russias-glonass-gps-system-suffers-major-disruption.html
It IS a pilot program, after all. They are still working out the details even though they just shove it to you and expect you to know what to do with it.
You have to look beyond what is going on here. The real reason for body cameras is not transparency or for the benefit of the officer it's something more. This is how the radicalized liberals who are running our major cities thus the police departments that go with them, disengage the police form being tough on crime, criminals, and become soft all around. The USAO will either establish oversight of a dept. Or that dept. will voluntarily go with body cams. The Feds know that the average working copper who initiates street stops, actively looks for the bad guys will infact decrease his proactive ways of policing. This is a win/win for the politicians cause they come across as being transparent with the public, and holding the oppressive police officers accountable but the real result is achieved and that's to tread softly with the criminal element. It's a form of de policing via body cameras. While the city can do this it shouldn't be surprising that the fop stands by and does nothing considering that Dean Angelo hasn't worked as policeman for over 20 yrs, yet was elected as president by working policemen. In car camera are antiquated yet still around, everyone with a phone has a camera yet the dept. Wants this. No doubt this will be city wide by the end of the year, we really can't do anything about it but to have such a willingness of the fop to cave into the city on everything is quite telling.
"It may have been brought up earlier, but I've seen other police videos on the internet of officers being murdered on video, and news organizations using a request to obtain video so they can post it on the internet. I think fop should be able to restrict that video, I don't want my family for years to see me or my co workers last minutes of life being killed on body camera video."
1/23/2015 06:08:00 AM
I never have understood why audio from 911 calls is released publicly. It seems like a terrible violation of people in extremis, at the worst and most desperate moments of their lives, and really does nothing other than to provide a cheap-thrill sound bite. The police will tell us the news, that "a kid got shot" or something. I don't think everyone needs to hear the bang and the screaming and hysterics. Doesn't seem decent.
As these new technologies come up, you have to think "Just because you CAN do something might not mean that you SHOULD."
Anonymous said...
Have to be careful on medical runs cause of HIPA
1/23/2015 12:15:00 AM
Not true. Looks like you have not read the act.
Anonymous said...
Breaking news- Hillard was awarded a marijuana license for the State of Illinois. He will make millions....
1/23/2015 12:53:00 AM
He has already made millions. One of the worst and dumbest we have had.
Well we see coppers while wearing body cameras getting assaulted, beat, run over, shot at, shot and murdered yet the bosses and politicians say they will lower complaints against the police and strengthen police community relations. Looks like it didn't happen with those departments where their officers were wearing them. Look for the real reason why they want us wearing body cameras.......
If somebody filed lawsuits for contact cards can you imagine this?
The city will over pay because they believe the can put a leash on officers.
The tech is out there already and affordable uses cell phone memory cards.
http://www.eyespypro.com/products/SecureShot-Micro-Eyes-SD-Card-Recording-Ball-Camera-CamBall.html
They can give me a camera. All it will show is me stuffing my face at Pequods. Forward at the half step!
Per ABC news last night, the cameras will start recordings 30 seconds BEFORE the officer hits the record button.
Read the Order. The training was done before they were issued. Just be smart
Aren't you glad you voted for Disability Dean....he let the city shove cameras down our throats without objection. Go have Dean jr wear all the cameras in 014.
(OT) Just watched News report about NFL, and they are a non-profit tax exempt organization that makes over 10 BILLION dollar's a year!nice no taxes at all! maybe obama and his crew should look into this? Wonder how heavy the nfl payoff envelopes must be?
Watch for the first PO to screw up on his own video body cam and be made an example off. Then, there will be a call for more body cameras to justify their existence.
Why should i trust any white shirt with my career haven't we had exempts in the detective division disappear with felony files?
1/23/2015 12:25:00 AM
Only the files disappeared not the "exempts."
So if a victim/witness/offender tells you something at a scene, on film and then recants in court. Can you arrest them for perjury?
Rahm and McNumbnuts had lunch today at NaNa's at 33rd n Halsted. I think both of those goofs should be wearing body cameras....you know for their own protection.
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Is it true we are NOT getting retro on the 26th and Dean knew it. Heard he didn't want to say because he didn't want blow back at the meeting. Is this true?
"Have to be careful on medical runs cause of HIPA
1/23/2015 12:15:00 AM"
HIPAA does not apply to CPD. You have to be a medical services provider, insurance company, or medical data clearinghouse.
Anonymous said...
So if a victim/witness/offender tells you something at a scene, on film and then recants in court. Can you arrest them for perjury?
1/23/2015 01:42:00 PM
No dumbass. You can only be charged with perjury if you make the statement under oath. But you should already know that cuz you is a "super cop."
Anonymous said...
I'd like to ask a White Shirt if they are ok approving an arrest report that has body camera footage and not watching it?
1/23/2015 09:44:00 AM
I am a white shirt and yes I am ok with approving an arrest report for which there is a recording from a body camera. I am not approving what the oficer did. I am approving "probable cause" to justify an arrest. He can lie his ass off. I am approving the charges based on what he presents to me on an arrest report. That would be akin to asking me if I went on the street to look for private video footage prior to approving the report. It is up to the officer to justify his actions when presented with defense evidence that contradicts him. And good luck if it doesn't match.
What I don't understand is why everybody's jumping over the bridge on this camera bandwagon just because some city politicos in bed with private money makers say so!? Who the fu@k are these people to shove this program down our throats without so much as a whimper from the rank and file? I mean is this camera shit on the GO's now that I somehow have missed. When has this all of a sudden been mandated by the department? Are we all that weak and stupid collectively as a department to just accept this shit!?
If it's not in the bible (general orders) then why would anybody volunteer for this or think this is standard practice..
If those New York coppers had the balls to all turn their backs on THEIR MAYOR, not to mention the solidarity they showed when they stopped giving out citations which cost their city a ton of revenue we should at least put up a fight and demand our FOP leaders stand up and say NO! And if they don't, then WE go on our little display of solidarity!
I don't get it. are we all just sheep? We're supposed to be the fu@king CPD for chrissakes..
Yep -- with all the cameras being put out at CPD, can't wait for all the great video.
Check this out - I am sure all the "talent" in CPD will top this -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XFBUM8dMqw
I am sure the local TV stations here will be clamoring for your shift videos.
YEP - cameras will be very good in the CPD cars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jatkYH3mDtQ
Singing will now be part of the Sergeants' Exam.
I don't give a fuck what they do with this shit.
Avoid contact with people.
Just saw Sheriff David Clarke(Milwaukee County Sheriff Wisconsin) interview on Fox News. If the republicans can get their act together, then I just saw the next Attorney General.
Ingredients for disaster. Only defense will be lack of training but that probably won't save your ass, especially if you do or say something you know you are not supposed to do. Like calling someone the "N" word or giving someone an unlawful crack. Only matter of time.
I'm going to put mine on my little weenee. It loves to be photographed.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Why should i trust any white shirt with my career haven't we had exempts in the detective division disappear with felony files?
1/23/2015 12:25:00 AM
Now you are falling into the same category as the public, painting everyone with the same brush.
Amazon to collect Illinois sales tax starting Feb. 1
Online retail giant Amazon will start collecting sales taxes on Illinois purchases on Feb. 1, the company said.
Before, online outfits like Amazon that had no physical connection to Illinois didn't have to collect state sales taxes, but shoppers were still supposed to pay the sales taxes they owed every year.
Now, a new state law means Amazon has to collect by Feb. 1, Illinois Department of Revenue spokesman Terry Horstman said.
The state rate of 6.25 percent will be applied to purchases, Horstman said.
Amazon spokesman Ty Rogers said the company will start on Feb. 1.
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Local retailers have often argued Amazon gets an unfair advantage by not charging sales taxes, making online purchases with the site cheaper than going to the local store.
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Calls to residences...might the people not want the inside of their home videotaped. Is the camera turned off in a residence? What about the incidental taping of children? (not duct tape). Maybe witnesses or victims will decline. Way too many privacy concerns
Wheres the cameras? Nice description no race-age or even color of van just that it has "dents and scratches" as usual the offender will never be located! Put out amber alert how many vans have "dents and scratches?"
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-attempted-luring-reported-in-archer-heights-20150123-story.html
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Breaking news- Hillard was awarded a marijuana license for the State of Illinois. He will make millions....
1/23/2015 12:53:00 AM
He has already made millions. One of the worst and dumbest we have had.
1/23/2015 11:08:00 AM
Whats the saying "pigs get fat hogs go to slaughter" this guy has so many many contracts with the city plus the huge superintendents pension,wonder how much he has on the politicians? Tasers, equipment, consulting wow give another guy a chance to make a buck!!
FLOP Dean SILENT ZZZZZZZZzzzzz!!
Should our dues be fighting for us?
Doctor Dean loves body cameras and 10 hours days Bec he doesn't get either! You do, sucker
Dean has Sold Us Out for
*Jr future CPD Commander
Every officer required to wear a body camera should look at the NYPD's actions after their Mayor rediculed them. Sometimes no action gives you the best results.
Did anyone go to the Leo show today?? I heard there was lots of butt kissing a line to take photos and even a low flying helicopter to bid him farewell what's the dirt??
Bernard Kerik, former NYPD Commish, made $6.2 million by exercising stock options he received from Taser. Kerik was released from the Federal Pen in 2013. G-Mac was Deputy Commish under Kerik.
Taser is evidence.com's owner.
See what's going on now?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hope there's no audio. Class 4 felony if it's on.
1/23/2015 09:09:00 AM
Please research "expectations of Privacy VS Public Way" in Illinois.
Or to put it clearly...there is NO Expectation of Privacy on the Public Way, Plus with all the media announcements about this program...the Public has been Informed that the CPD is adding Body Cameras so that would defeat the claim of "I didn't give dat polices permission to record me" lawsuit.
I had a moron start to MF me after they got a Expired Plate and Expired City Sticker ticket the other day. I calmly asked them to hold on a second so I could turn on my Video camera...and damned if they didn't shut the F up and walk off.
Regards,
Guy on a Bike at Finance.
PS...yea...we got cameras too.
It is halal, just not kosher. Big difference.
WTF SCC? Department met with FOP. I heard they even signed a joint memorandum of understanding. There is a very clear order on the issue. There has been on-going roll call training as well. Have you suddenly started getting your info from the National Enquirer? Or did someone lie their asses off at whatever meeting you are referring to?
A new reality show "Cooter" hillbilly heaven. Every week he explores his family tree. Big problem only one branch.
Relax!! Cameras No problem
Just look at all the other "technology" the department has.
It is all broken and in disarray in a matter of months.
Name one piece of tech. equipment that continues to function.
Wait and it will all go the way of the in car camera and the pdt.
Broken/gone and a ticket number...
Check out the pricing! They have money for cameras but not for pensions.
https://www.evidence.com/pricing
Don't all get your panties in a bunch. It'll never last. Look at the Palm scanners they tried to inplement about 4 years ago.. Never happened.
OT:
Does anyone know when the retro checks will be out.?
I was under the impression it was Mon. the 26th but now I've been hearing Mon. Feb 2nd.
Guess Rahm isn't paying us early like he did for his heroes CFD.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You have to look beyond what is going on here. The real reason for body cameras is not transparency or for the benefit of the officer it's something more. This is how the radicalized liberals who are running our major cities thus the police departments that go with them, disengage the police form being tough on crime, criminals, and become soft all around. The USAO will either establish oversight of a dept. Or that dept. will voluntarily go with body cams. The Feds know that the average working copper who initiates street stops, actively looks for the bad guys will infact decrease his proactive ways of policing. This is a win/win for the politicians cause they come across as being transparent with the public, and holding the oppressive police officers accountable...
1/23/2015 10:51:00 AM
Word problem for your ass...
Body Cameras = The end of the rugged, hands-on Policing that Chicago desperately needs.
The end of the rugged, hands-on Policing that Chicago desperately needs = Not as many swing-dicks deservedly hitting lock-up/County Jail/I.D.O.C = "Crime Is Down" x Emptying County/I.D.O.C of recidivist mouth-breathing predators = "It's Racist to Lock Up Our Protected Democrat Voting Criminal Class" = "Now we can stick it in the Cops ear and achieve a 20% to 30% lay-off through attrition, not hiring and putting a brick on promotional opportunities" = "Look at all the money we took from the cops + Siccing the Wall Streeters on Police Pensions = Big steps toward re-booting Policing, separating it from proactive Patroling and public safety ideals of Sir Robert Peel and turning it into the revenue extraction arm of the shit-assed corporate sponsored, media supported muni-gov.
This is how commie backed progressives like Rahm, Sparkle-Farts and Holder, do math...
"Use short swift bursts rather than one long BLAST. Long BLASTS are hard to control and may melt the nozzle."
1/23/2015 01:46:00 PM
Yeah, and from what I have seen in WWII film, your buddy had better be behind you with both hands on the tanks bracing you up solid.. Like a fireman, more than one guy on the nozzle. They have a kick to them, that can flip one guy over who is not quite ready for it, and set him on fire too. No fun at all.
Everybody I ever talked to who used one couldn't wait for the chance to ditch the bastard. Made you a prime target.
imagine a scene where a family member of very important person is involved and the camera police officer arrives on the scene with camera rolling! wow some interesting times to come, can't wait!
Let the Cameras Roll!
Cameras will be in more demand than the rifle or Taser!
Anonymous said...
I remember when the in car cameras came out. They said they would only record if u activate emergency equipment, etc. Well we found out shortly after following a major incident that those cameras are ALWAYS recording. They downed all the cars and pulled the video and what do you know... We found out those cameras are always recording. Be very careful with these cameras. You can lose your job over a 2 second conversation captured on these things.
1/23/2015 09:04:00 Am
You just were not paying attention during the training. It was always explained that they were constantly recording and that activating it via the remote, lights, or unit itself just indexed the event a minute prior to the activation until deactivation. Common sense even tells you that if it is including a minute prior to the point of activation, it is always recording. Assume the same for these. That being said, it doesn't matter if the training only takes 5-10 minutes if what happens to the video, who has access to it, and the legal issues are not written out. Until that is set, backed by official general orders and the legal department gets that side of it in order, we should not be using them.
Good luck!
Here is the sales video for the unit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnnDaGDtKR0
Use it when your in the toilet.
As usually everyone has something to say.lol. But no one is listening put all this energy into helping a different mayoral candidate campaign so there can be real change . so many remarks and no action .
Just in case you care, no retro checks till mid February, and the union agreed not to file a grievance. Fact.
(OT) Just watched News report about NFL, and they are a non-profit tax exempt organization that makes over 10 BILLION dollar's a year!nice no taxes at all! maybe obama and his crew should look into this? Wonder how heavy the nfl payoff envelopes must be?
1/23/2015 01:13:00 PM
Numb nuts it's a trade organization and thus tax exempt. ALL the teams and the players of course pay taxes !!
fop useless
No retro check... Glitch in system. Spoke today with Flop.
I'm Die hard Sox Fan, but Ernie was a class act. 512 career HRs and most Xtra base hits in Cubs History.
"Let's play 2!"
RIP
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Aren't you glad you voted for Disability Dean....he let the city shove cameras down our throats without objection. Go have Dean jr wear all the cameras in 014.
1/23/2015 01:05:00 PM
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Do you know everyone was watching you post this on Skype from your laptop in North Korea? Please put some tape over the camera lens. They thought it was from a tablet in a Buddhist monastery in Nepal. The then realized you weren't Buda. I guess they never saw Wormtail from the Harry Potter movies.
Question: About "
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Amazon to collect Illinois sales tax starting Feb. 1 "
Amazon also connects buyers to other online retailers. If you buy through one that is out of state but were connected by Amazon will you still be charged tax?
Will any of this new revenue go to fund our pensions?
Buddha is spelled this way correctly Dean jr. You're such a stroke.
@ 10:50pm
**** that new piece of shit CONTRACT had that "if IAD or IPRA interviewing you (tandemly, yes. In shifts like a team u r not on) and they have video cause someone who rode on your job wore a camera THEY DO NOT HAVE TO IMMEDIATELY MAKE YOU AWARE OF ANY SUCH AUDIO AND OR FOOTAGE OF YOU IN SAID RECORDINS!! Watch them sneaky, pencil pushing types and be careful. Thank each and everyone of you guys keeping me and mine safe
Not a cop.You hit the nail on the head. Someone wired clout wise is making BIG money on this. Why is the Union not saying ,training before anybody puts one on!
Ask the Joe Biden of fop
1st VP Ray Ray the Range guy I'm sure he knows Nothing!!
I remember when the in car cameras came out. They said they would only record if u activate emergency equipment, etc. Well we found out shortly after following a major incident that those cameras are ALWAYS recording. They downed all the cars and pulled the video and what do you know... We found out those cameras are always recording. Be very careful with these cameras. You can lose your job over a 2 second conversation captured on these things
Csnt believe what pos say in the car still WTF youre crazy to say anything
No retro, like a Gus Grisson Glitch: "I did NOT do anything wrong. The hatch just BLEW. It was a GLITCH. It was a- a TECHNICAL MALFUNCTION. Why in hell won't anyone believe me?"
Anonymous said...
OT:
Does anyone know when the retro checks will be out.?
I was under the impression it was Mon. the 26th but now I've been hearing Mon. Feb 2nd.
Guess Rahm isn't paying us early like he did for his heroes CFD.
1/23/2015 07:36:00 PM
OK smart guys, you see what happens when we do NOT endorse RAHM?? We get FUCKED! We'll show him.
I told 'em Mr Mayor, you are to be honored, endorsed, obeyed, praised and paid tribute to.
Long live Rahm. You fucking scum sucking bastard cock sucking lying piece of shit.
How's that for my personal endorsement?
Do you remember the scene in Naked Gun when Lt. Frank Drebin heads to the bathroom with his mike still on after the press conference? I can see a lot of good time footage from the CPD. We still, above all, have a good sense of cop humor.
Not on the hook financially. Should an innocent accidental damage happen and properly reported the worst that can happen is a reprimand. Especially with no training. In the early 80s there would be about 40 minor accidents in the first week or two with 40 officers, you know, guys who don't give a shit and have some nuts would take the reprimand with a smile. Even if it was a day it would be done for the greater good. Today? Nope. Cowards who are terrified to get into trouble or take a day. You don't get fired. This isn't school where the principal calls your parents. You get a piece of paper telling you that your two days off a week just turned into 3... Win/win. Crybabies everywhere these days. I mostly blame the group who started coming on between 97 or so till 2005. Those late 90s hires are all bitter whiners now.. It's sickening the types of guys who come on this job. All individuals, no team players
1/23/2015 12:20:00 AM
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Yeah go ahead, take a day or two for the greater good, nothings gonna happen to ya.. Your right, it is sickening the types of guys on the job,(or maybe in your case who used to be) whining just like you are, and taking all kinds of chances with other peoples asses. After all these years it's time to pull your head out
Regards,
Guy on a Bike at Finance.
PS...yea...we got cameras too.
1/23/2015 05:27:00 PM
He means he's a department of revenue meter maid. I don't like Rahm's revenuers. They're pimps for the city.
1/23/2015 11:08:00 AM
Whats the saying "pigs get fat hogs go to slaughter" this guy has so many many contracts with the city plus the huge superintendents pension,wonder how much he has on the politicians? Tasers, equipment, consulting wow give another guy a chance to make a buck!!
1/23/2015 04:52:00 PM
He did what Daley told him to do, that is why he was picked over Ramsey. Hillard promoted who he was told to promote and went along with the "new" captains promotion scam. His company has been awarded numerous government contracts. If you notice he does not do any of the work, he hires retired law enforcement types who know what they are doing. Everybody lo ves " Uncle Terry".
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
So if a victim/witness/offender tells you something at a scene, on film and then recants in court. Can you arrest them for perjury?
1/23/2015 01:42:00 PM
No dumbass. You can only be charged with perjury if you make the statement under oath. But you should already know that cuz you is a "super cop."
1/23/2015 02:30:00 PM
Before you are so quick to call someone else a dumbass keep in mind that once the victim signs the complaint they have signed a legal document under oath. Just because we don't do that in our normal course of business doesn't mean that it isn't required by law. How many cops present a victim a blank complaint to sign? That is clearly a violation of general orders and the Illinois law regarding criminal complaints. Just saying!!!!
Does anyone know when the retro checks will be out.?
I was under the impression it was Mon. the 26th but now I've been hearing Mon. Feb 2nd.
Guess Rahm isn't paying us early like he did for his heroes CFD.
stop starting rumours you fucking jagoff...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Amazon to collect Illinois sales tax starting Feb. 1
Online retail giant Amazon will start collecting sales taxes on Illinois purchases on Feb. 1, the company said.
Before, online outfits like Amazon that had no physical connection to Illinois didn't have to collect state sales taxes, but shoppers were still supposed to pay the sales taxes they owed every year.
Now, a new state law means Amazon has to collect by Feb. 1, Illinois Department of Revenue spokesman Terry Horstman said.
The state rate of 6.25 percent will be applied to purchases, Horstman said.
Amazon spokesman Ty Rogers said the company will start on Feb. 1.
"As analysts have noted, Amazon offers the best prices with or without sales tax," he said in an email.
Local retailers have often argued Amazon gets an unfair advantage by not charging sales taxes, making online purchases with the site cheaper than going to the local store.
Illinois lawmakers approved a law requiring the site collect sales taxes a few years ago, but it was struck down by the state Supreme Court. Last year, lawmakers approved a new one.
1/23/2015 04:05:00 PM
It isn't just Amazon. This is going to affect a LOT of other online purchases.
Ohhhhhh but wait Dean said that the cameras were good to protect us from the evils of the Dept. Why don't the supervisors and up wear them....they do work in taverns right....how about the gumad 's house ot the brazchole 's apartment or the Dollie's suv.....how about there boss. Maybe Mclightscameraaction should have worn one the other night....well Mcasanova....yeah we saw you and you saw us and we were not alone.....so don't flex .....you will loose your mojo.
Regards,
Guy on a Bike at Finance.
PS...yea...we got cameras too.
1/23/2015 05:27:00 PM
He means he's a department of revenue meter maid. I don't like Rahm's revenuers. They're pimps for the city.
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At least he's honest about it.
Anonymous said...
"Have to be careful on medical runs cause of HIPA
1/23/2015 12:15:00 AM"
HIPAA does not apply to CPD. You have to be a medical services provider, insurance company, or medical data clearinghouse.
1/23/2015 02:09:00 PM>>>
I think you are wrong with that.. I believe if anyone makes public the details of someone's medical records without their consent they could be held in violation. That is one reason you always hear on the news, "non-life threatening injuries".
When I was taking reports some E.R.s insisted on a Hospitalizion Report for every street injury. The E.R. staff insisted even if the patient refused. I told them all they had to do is write on their report that patient refused police report and that P.O. name star number was here. The CPD had no rights to their medical records. If it involved something like a broken sidewalk I would call that in and I was also careful to check that it was not a domestic battery.
What happens if you get an early duck? Do you turn off the camera or just let it record on the shelf ? Can downtown audit the camera of the officer who wore it and check to see if he had a slip in when there is no recording or recording of a dark radio room?
1/23/2015 05:27:00 PM
He means he's a department of revenue meter maid. I don't like Rahm's revenuers. They're pimps for the city.
1/24/2015 08:43:00 AM
Thats the best you got? Thats all they do...write tickets. At least that 'guy on a bike' is honest about what it is he does. And doesn't seem to bad mouth the cops here.
And no....I'm not a fan of them...but cmon dude...the meter maids work for CPM..not Finance.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does anyone know when the retro checks will be out.?
1/24/2015 10:33:00 AM
Aren't you all glad you voted for Dean Angelo Sr and Jr?
Yesiree, so good not to have Bill Dougherty in there. Yeah, Dean might not do shit and we get more fucked as the days go by but hell, it isn't Bill Dougherty doing the fucking.
I hope you morons are happy. Wait until 2017 and you can listen to another batch of bullshit promises.
I really want to move to New Hampshire. No sales tax period, no income tax. Selectmen form of government. No back-room deals. People sit right there in front of their reps at town meetings and they get a chance to cuss out their rep in person right there. No snake aldermen getting wealthy on public pensions etc.
He means he's a department of revenue meter maid. I don't like Rahm's revenuers. They're pimps for the city.
1/24/2015 08:43:00 AM
Thats the best you got? Thats all they do...write tickets. At least that 'guy on a bike' is honest about what it is he does. And doesn't seem to bad mouth the cops here.
And no....I'm not a fan of them...but cmon dude...the meter maids work for CPM..not Finance.
1/24/2015 09:28:00 PM
Yeah, he does mean he's a ticket writer, but he's also been honest about it, said he wanted cpd but was too old before he got the call, AND he's given us a heads up more than once about what's really going on there.
We don't like it when people paint all of us with one brush, so let's not do it to other people. Everybody's gotta work and put food on the table, so pull in your horns a little.
1/23/2015 04:52:00 PM
He did what Daley told him to do, that is why he was picked over Ramsey. Hillard promoted who he was told to promote and went along with the "new" captains promotion scam. His company has been awarded numerous government contracts. If you notice he does not do any of the work, he hires retired law enforcement types who know what they are doing. Everybody lo ves " Uncle Terry".
1/24/2015 09:16:00 AM
@'@'@'@'@'@
When Ramsey hosted a two hour live special on wttw on the roll out of CAPS he sealed his fate as never being the Super. Ramsey spoke the King's English like it's supposed to spoken. Daley saw Ramsey as a future opponent for mayor. After Daley shit in his pants he showed Ramsey the door just like he used the feds to get rid of Marian Santos.
1/23 4:05PM - the law that the State nitwits passed has nothing to do with Amazon collecting sales tax.
Amazon's building a warehouse expected to open Feb 1 - so they'll have a "presence" in the State and thus they're required to collect Sales Tax. This is perfectly constitutional.
what about a camera on rahms body guard security specialists and his home detail
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